Evil Dead Blu-ray Rant -
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Adam talks about what the Blu-ray and 4K releases of The Evil Dead changed about the movie. And more importantly, why it ruins it.
#ReleaseTheTapertCut
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I can't believe they removed Rob Tapert from the bushes, I can NOT believe they removed Rob Tapert from the bushes, how could they have done this? how could they have removed Rob Tapert from the bushes
I can't help you out of this one Rob!
You kinda won the internet with this comment. Congratulations
Still have Sam raimi waving on the side of the road here......... now
It's really funny he's covering this right now..
Been watching evil dead every year since 2003 in 9th grade haha..
And just 3 days ago my GF watched it for the first time
Honestly I don't think it's that big of a deal haha, it's charming to be there, part of the bare bones low budget genius of evil dead
But I don't mind, I mean noone would ever notice that edit
It's not like he's Lucasing it and adding all kinds of bullshit and removing scenes and changing context
2 is still the best hahaha
But yeah, Adams right, they pulled this movie together with spit and tape and it's genius, amazing shots, clever editing, even if all the deadites change actors like 3 times haha it's got a charm
I'm pissed if they dicked with the classic moon matte haha
It's definitely inspiring, I got into making low budget horror movies because of it too, fuck modern low budget shit like paranormal activity, this is a genuine classic
Good meme 👏
seeing how passionately frustrated adum gets about things like this make me not feel so bad about being like that too
He is a bit too nitpicky.
@@123612100 Because he cares!
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Anyone who ruins Evil Dead by "fixing it?" I love it for its low budget style and ability to make it just dark enough to hide the practical effects glad I never bought the bluray I just got 2 version of Evil Dead 1 and 2 on DVD
@@123612100 I don't know about other cases as this is the first time I have ever seen this dude, but for this? He is NOT! too nitpicky! You don't just go back and alter classic films like these people did, especially in cases like this where a big part of the appeal is that is was a cheaply made film made by youngsters that took ages to film and it turned out good enough to become famous and now a classic.
I mean.. You wouldn't go back to the 1931 Dracula and digitally edit the floppy bats to be fully CG would you? Fuck no! That's just stupid! Films are products of their time and products of their creators at the time, films come out and then they're loved by loads of people for their pro's and their flaws.
I fucking hate that anyone changes classic films like this, this pisses me off more because the original The Evil Dead is one of my favourite films ever, I honestly didn't quite notice that these things were completely edited out when I watched my blu ray but I definitely remember thinking "huh... I didn't catch them that time 🤔 could have sworn that's where they were, oh well! Guess I just didn't look in the right place" now seeing this just pisses me off because I was never gonna see it because those companies stole them from me and gave me a cheaply edited version that's not quite the film that it has been for the last 40 years approximately.
I believe that there's nothing wrong with making an re-edited version of your film, the real crime is making the original cut unavailable.
That's not what happened here, Adam is watching the original in this very video. They just didn't make a blu-ray version of the original.
@@nicholas4149it’s *unavailable* on blu ray just the same as how SW’s original cut is only available on VHS and very limited dvd releases.
@@nicholas4149Oh you mean the only version that's still in print and the basis for all versions available digitally? I suppose you also think what George Lucas has done is okay because "Hey the original versions are still on VHS!" lol. The original version of The Evil Dead existing on DVDs that have been out of print for decades isn't an excuse. All four edits of Army of Darkness are available on 4K (and that's not some collector's edition box set, no the base 4K Blu-ray that you can find at Walmart comes with all four edits included within the case), but we can't get the original version of The Evil Dead without resorting to out of print DVDs? Bullshit.
Real hot take…
Having never seen Evil Dead, I didn’t know what he was looking for at first or why. But I agree that Sam Raimi’s career was launched by the film, and low budget mistakes like this should be an endearing message for future filmmakers. Mistakes are okay. Make your dream come true anyway.
Cool name
*andmessage
I agree the original version of Evil Dead should be available, but disagree with Adum saying the _only_ reason Evil Dead is important is the story of its production. Its directorial style really stood out at the time, and is still of interest now. There are also some great performances.
It was also the film that launched Bruce Campbell's career. It was a no-budget passion project, and the effects were extremely good considering. A great example is the tree crashing through the window: they didn't have another window. The shot had to be right the first time. The people who loved the film enjoyed taking note of these minor flaws as proof of their love and appreciation for the product of their extraordinary dedication of a crew. It serves literally no purpose to correct these things.
Stopped reading after the first five words.
Bob Sacamano Will you shut up man
Never expect a German release of a horror film to be unaltered.
Ooh.
*Ooooh*
@@kalebula9579 it's
Context?
@@HOTD108_ expansive history of German censorship
@@HOTD108_ Censorship
Can we please get the people behind the Star Wars Despecialized Edition to do a restoration of the original Evil Dead?
Whenever I see the newest cut of Star Wars 6 with Hayden Christensen’s force ghost on TV, I cringe so hard. It’s like George Lucas was like “Oh no, who’s that guy standing next to Obi-Wan and Yoda. Too hard to figure out from context. Better make it Hayden so no one gets confused.”
@@eyeseaweed honestly that never really bothered me that much, links to the prequels, whatever. It's not that you wouldn't know it's Anakin, it's just he's the Anakin people know
I don't blame Hayden, he's a fine actor in his previous work, it's just lucas being a terrible director micromanaging, Portman, Jackson, MacGregor, all have cringey performances
What's way worse is adding a scream when Luke jumps on bespin, forcing in all kinds of bullshit critters, the song in jedi
It’s just kinda bizarre how pointless all of his changes are
@@frankmerker630 Maclunky
I think there are fan restorations out there.
My vcr is becoming more and more precious everyday.
The original version is actually available on DVD and Amazon prime video, since amazon prime seemed to just rip their version straight from DVD.
You can also watch Night Court VHSs on it.
Protect it from hack frauds.
You can also watch Night Court VHSs on it.
Protect it from hack frauds.
So when I originally watched this, I thought the guy by the bridge was some creepy hillbilly or a hunter, I thought the moon was wobbling because of demonic atmospheric disturbances and I thought the tube was some exposed artery. I guess I suspended my disbelief and all these technical flaws were just part of the film to me.
You're doing their work for them. With this particular film it's no biggie, just some goofs by some young aspiring film makers.
But don't use that same line of thought with modern movies. They bank on you writing their scripts for them.
@@alexmason3939 Modern movies are saturated with so much CGI, dumbed down woke scripts and tired rehashing of old ideas that there's no danger of me becoming immersed in them and suspending my disbelief.
Modern horror movies look way more fake to me than low budget old movies. Practical effects and an understanding of the psychology of horror beats 4k any day.
I thought the same as you
The worst part is that almost no one else on the internet is talking about this. When I try to search for anything about the theatrical cut all I get is the site that is in the description and stuff about the remake's theatrical cut. The Evil Dead has a very dedicated fanbase so I'm surprised that no one has petitioned this before.
Evil dead's fan base is significantly bigger than evil dead's fan base.
This is actually great. The last thing we need are more fan bases complaining.
I was very happy to find that someone else finally noticed and drew attention to this. I've also assumed this is why the original Raimi/Tapert and solo Campbell commentaries weren't ported over from the previous DVD releases as I believe BOTH specifically draw attention to this shot.
Is because they are ABSOLUTELY NOT real fans 💔👎💔
Maybe they've never noticed it?
Either release the original untouched cut on its own, or at least go the Blade Runner route and offer different versions to choose from.
@@TemmiePlays The narrated version of Blade Runner is available in the 5-disc set. It's great.
@@TemmiePlays There is a Blu-ray version of the set they're talking about
@@TemmiePlays The theatrical and International cuts are preserved on blu ray as is the original DC and workprint. I have the 5 disc set, totally worth getting.
@@kurvos Well the main problem is people want the untouched version preserved on blu ray/4K, not just DVD.
@@kurvos I wasn't talking about myself, I'm just going by what Evil Dead fans in general are wanting and they want Evil Dead without any goofs being altered or taken out on the blu ray format. I don't care either way, I only have the DVD version and I'm perfectly fine with that because a film like Evil Dead doesn't really need to be viewed in the best format possible...... it was shot in 16mm with no money, no professionals, in the middle of a forest lol. It was pretty much a student made film. What they mean by "original form" is keeping all the technical flaws inside the film(not digitally removing them) that were always there to begin with...... we're not talking about picture quality here, that's a whole different issue. Actually if we want to be technical here about original quality, the DVD would not be the closest to it at all. The original negatives or theatrical prints would be the purest way to watch Evil Dead, the VHS and LD versions would be a very close second. All those are analogue formats which Evil Dead is made from, the DVD is digital and has been digitally remastered and tinkered with to make it look better/sound better so I don't see why people wanting the warts and all version of Evil Dead on blu ray/4K would be such a stretch or hypocritical of die hard fans.
With every subsequent release of Evil Dead they’ve removed mistakes or digitally painted over stuff to bad results but not only that they’ve butchered the sound design by using modern stock sounds and the rescore while good stuff from Joe Loduca just doesn’t fit with the original film. It’s a shame to see so many older films get tampered with to aggravating results.
Yeah I'm surprised adam didn't talk about the terrible sound in the video. In my opinion the audio changes they made are far worse than any of the visual cgi edits they made. A lot of the original sounds are replaced with terrible stock effects from the internet and the soundtrack is totally butchered
You are WROOOOONG !!!!!
@@officialtheevildeadchannel8323 Can you elaborate?
I agree. That is why I got no enjoyment out of Evil Dead remake. It had none of the charm of the original movie! Don't no who exactly is telling people to take old movies and add modern BS into them. Just let them age gracefully and stop turning them into Frankenstein monsters!
I'm glad there's people like Adam who care.
As someone who doesn't honestly care, I agree
Also Raiders of the Lost Ark replaced a cliffside with a CGi version during the chase.
And in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (I know, it's a hard movie to care about) they removed a line from most versions of the film when Indiana rejects Mutt wearing the hat at the end.
You guys, caring so much, should definitely also take care of calling it "THE Evil Dead" ! Because there actually was also another film, called just "Evil Dead", which I would actually personally prefer between the two. Just of personal taste!
@@chanceneck8072 You mean the 2013 one? I think it's fine to call the original either way, since the reboot is named after how most people referred to the original, similar to Rambo, Chucky after the third movie, Snowpiercer or Vacation.
@@expendableindigo9639 right. Maybe *I* just care so much, because I really like that movie. It may come across as nitpicky for some people, I just think you could also say the exact same thing about what Adam complains about in this video. So I thought, I´d make a comment to point out that all those things deserve attention.
But seriously, this is infuriating. The Evil Dead got me into filmmaking because the filmmaking is so obvious. I’ve watched both commentaries so many times and to try to cover stuff up so many years after the fact is asinine.
@@thomasgrieve1924 purists will be purists
@@thomasgrieve1924 why are you here if you "don't give a fuck"?
@@stratocaster-dn7gtIf caring about artistic integrity and art preservation makes me a purist, then I guess I'm a purist. I'd call it basic caring.
"Bruce Campbell's pinky finger was digitally edited to not look as crooked"
Adam: "Disgusting. How could they ruin this film so badly. Horrendous."
How is it not disgusting that people edit our movies and books and TV shows and act like they didn't? I didn't ask them to, and I definitely didn't want them to.
@@pentelegomenon1175 the world doesn't revolve around you bud. You learn that as you grow up.
@@vanitymanatee3202 guess I'm one of those entitled consumers.
@@vanitymanatee3202 So just accept everything passively like some kind of dejected boomer? How do you think things get so fucked to begin with?
What the fuck did the replies turn into
why do they even remove a guy where nobody could tell that hes from the crew
That's what I was thinking. I at least get the logic behind getting rid of effects equipment and matte lines, but there could plausibly be a guy in the woods. Especially near a road.
@@benphillips2947 Does Rob Tapert shit in the woods?
I thought it was just a drifter.
Tbf it could confuse people. Chekov's gun.
@@vanitymanatee3202 If you see Rob Tapert in the first reel, he'll be smoking in the final one. They teach that in film schools.
I dont believe there's anything wrong with a director wanting to make corrections/edits to their movie decades after they made it. They may have had a different vision but could not get that across in the final product do to numerous reasons. That said, the removal of the option to view the work in its original form is sad. Both versions have their merit to exist and they should, along with the consumers choice in which they want to view.
Except that, the DVD version is still in print, has no major changes (except cuts to the tree rape scene that literally everyone, including Rami about a year after, hated), is still in print, and is still higher quality than the original was ever meant to be seen. This rant is just ridiculous -- we can still see the movie in its entirety, and Adum is full of crap.
@@Spike-Prime but DVD not in full HD
@@Spike-Prime But we can't watch it in HD
@@takoberu3992 You mean the format it was never made to be viewed in the first place? Gee what a tragedy. :/
@@Spike-Prime What are you talking about? By that absolutely moronic logic we weren't meant to view it on dvd or vhs. And hd scan of the original 16mm film will look better than the dvd would.
The warriors directors cut which is the only available version on blu ray that adds stupid cell shaded comic book transitions gives me migranes.
So glad someone else thinks that. I was excited to get my hands on it and then the transitions came along and it ruined my experience, what a shame too it’s one of my all time favourites
Two words: Buffy HD.......
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@@thekalifornian4244 This is the way Walter Hill wanted the film in the 70's, but was not allowed/able to. So rather than a George Lucas-ing, it is restoring a director's vision. Although it is shit.
@@davidjames579 sometimes they should just let sleeping dogs lie. Sounds like another Donnie Darko directors cut situation.
@@saintjimmy2597 Have you heard of the Director's Cut of Revolution (1985) where Al Pacino came back 20 years later and recorded a voice-over? Except in the film he speaks with an English accent, and in the voice-over he plays the character with his usual New York voice.
Anchor Bay has been doing this since before the blu-ray. The Book of the Dead DVD removes the overly fakey lightning hitting the tree for example, and even in Evil Dead 2, they remove the fishing line that guides the eye into the girl's mouth
I have a french dvd of Evil Dead 2 wich is not altered, thank god for that. You still see the fishing line, the camera crew, everything. And there is a second dvd with a very long interview of Bruce talking about the Evil Dead series and his career, it's just marvelous.
That awesome cover? Damn I wanted to get it. I guess it was released after the original DVD releases, I got Evil Dead 2 on DVD but not sure if it’s the good version.
any other examples outside the evil dead where they messed with the original?
@@219SilverChoc Star Wars, of course.
Blade Runner was crazy altered by Ridley Scott over the years. In it's current state, there is even footages of another Ridley Scott movie in Blade Runner, it's kinda pathetic. So just stick with the theatrical release for this one too.
@@-Zakhiel- of course star wars, but was the edits to blade runner exclusive to the final cut version?
God I feel this deep in my soul, I had to go on a huge search for the first dub of Kiki's delivery service a while ago because the new HD and Blu-ray they have cut a ton of things that were originally in the first English dub to make it more accurate to the original Japanese. By doing that they fucked up the audio so Kiki sounds like she's always talking though a fan, and the first dub is the one I grew up with, it's the one I want to watch.
Same here. I got the 2006(?) dvd.
Bro, try getting DBZ on any physical media these days. They literally just refuse to not fuck with it.
Me too but with the OG Totoro dub; I feel like the Fanning sisters are so lifeless compared to the actresses in the dub I watched as a kid
This makes me Thankful that most re-releases of Akira contain the original 1988 dub despite the fact that I, and many others, prefer the 2004 re-dub
Disney no longer has the master audio track from the original Eng dub, so they’re stuck with the current edition.
He'd been hiding in the bushes so long they needed to remove him from them so he could get back to his family that missed him so. :(
Haven’t watched Adam in a while, he looks different like looks healthier and high on vitamin c
Looks can be deceiving. No but yeah he's been getting healthier
Some time away from Kimba did him some good.
A vitamin c filled snacc
He played Dark Souls, so he's healthier now.
Chugging white claws and perrier!! Lmao
I agree, removing those little newbie errors any up and coming film maker would make is just bringing more attention to them and making the whole situation worse really. When in reality it showed it's character and how it came to be/where it came from. Now it's just a product.
Like Adam said, watched this for the first time a month or so ago in a stream with 12 others. None of us noticed a guy in the shot because the car crossing the bridge grabs your attention.
@sheldon pereira the random fuck was the producer lol
I can't blame Sam Raimi for removing it. I bet he's wanted to do that since first watching the dailies. You can watch Evil Dead as a fun amateur film, but you can also watch it as an immersive drama. So for those reasons, they should offer you both cuts.
It doesn't bring attention to it though, does it? If no one had ever seen the film you wouldn't give a single shit.
@@thedarksiderebel If no had ever seen the film I wouldn't have either, so obviously wouldn't give a shit about something I hadn't seen.
They should not remove the film grain I'm a 16mm shooter and the grain is a characteristic of 16mm. I do kinda understand because in a low bit rate might look bad but this is a blue ray.
I agree, I think that’s also important to keep. Not that I’m against edits, change your film 100 times over if you want, but keep the original available instead of trying to erase history.
I really love film grain
Wow I would’ve never guessed that you were into 16mm film!!
(Don’t mind my smartass sarcasm)
@@Right_Said_Brett Crackles are not part of the recording or intention at all. Snaps and pops and shit are not even remotely intended by the artist. Music is recorded to tape, and at no part during the mixing or mastering process do the snaps, pops and crackles even exist in the recording. They are only a result of the vinyl playback. Minimizing tape hiss and maximizing signal-to-noise is a huge part of recording process from the first to the last step and is in no way an alteration of intent.
Furthermore Auto-tune has nothing to do with noise reduction at all whatsoever.
I'm confused by your ability to speak so definitively about something you don't understand even a little.
Yeah I couldn't believe I heard him say he doesn't care if they removed film grain. Seriously? He'd be okay with every single frame of a movie being digitally altered? Insanely bad take.
I've never seen the film but it doesn't even seem like having a dude in the background would even not make sense. People wander around random places all the time! Call it a cameo! It's fine!
I say we digitally add Tapert to The Lion King 2019.
Wait, this guys onto something
Watch Evil Dead
I really want that shirt Adam’s wearing
It's on teespring
Me too. The Lighthouse is one of my favorite movies of all time.
The newgrounds guy johnny utah made it.
Hes a cool guy.
*_Yer fond of me T-shirt ain’t ye?_*
@@Neo2266. DELUSIONS
I really don't want to have towers of VHSs, DVDs, etc in my home, but it's becoming clear that owning pirated physical copies of media is the only way to preserve films and TVs shows from bad editing and censorship.
It's not censorship if the original creator chooses to do it. I agree with your sentiment btw, I'm just correcting your terminology.
Especially since even piracy forgets to include and keep open matte versions of films.
@@HOTD108_ Self-censorship is very real.
Fr. Studios can’t be trusted with their own damn movies.
@@HOTD108_
Self censorship is still censorship.
I case you're curious
I checked my DVD that's from 2013 and that one was also digitally altered. So I guess you need a DVD from before 2010 to see the original
If you can find it, the Anchor Bay DVD from 2002 is unaltered. That’s my copy and it’s unaltered.
Same with the Elite Dvd
I gotta take issue with your “it’s not like a fantastic horror movie” comment. The Evil Dead is unnerving and atmospheric as fuck! There’s no cliché music in it which really bad horror films overuse to mask the fact that they have no atmosphere. And the music in The Evil Dead works more for setting mood and undertone than anything else. I don’t even need to the mention the plethora of ways Sam Raimi framed some of the scenes during the last 30 minutes of the movie! The Evil Dead truly is a gloomy and bleak film! I love it!
I tripped some balls one time and watched it thinking it will be funny. I was terrified.
@@piggybackshiggy Jesus why would you do that to yourself lol
I have to agree. Adum saying this film's only value is the production backstory is really wrongheaded. This movie stood out and still stands out because of its unique style. It made a big impact at the time and was hugely influential. A movie won't be that influential just because it was "a scrappy indie that made it", as Adum suggests.
I showed it to my girlfriend for the first time yesterday. She was laughing whenever I pointed out one of the goofs but then 180ed into being terrified reeeaally quick.
8:24 Same problem with the Aliens BluRay commentary. The commentary is from the DVD version. At the end of the movie James Cameron mentions the hole the actor who pkays Bishop is in when he is cut in half and grabs Newt. But in the Blu Ray they digitally removed the hole. So his comment doesn't make any sense anymore.
I'm very happy to see someone talking about this. I hate how movies are being changed & the originals are being buried.
If Blade Runner can release every version in HD, why not Star Wars & Evil Dead??
I'd have no problem with "fixed up" versions if the original was also present in equal quality.
Or can’t they include two versions of the film on Blu-ray, one with mistakes and one without
@@JorganGJorganOf course they can. Many films have.
Even removing film grain can be an issue, because they usually use an algorithm to smooth the picture, and you have to trust that algorithm to remove flaws without removing details from the image. The thing about film grain is that it's not just a part of the image, it IS the image. Grain is basically the film equivalent of pixels.
"Evil Dead is not a movie that's important because it's un-ironically scary or creepy"
Can something BE ironically scary or creepy? What would that be like?
Donnie Darko?
Scream? Maybe? I dunno?
I’m thinking like a kids movie that has a creepy animation maybe
@@sonata7204 the only film I can think of that matches this description is Paranorman, and I don't think that's it.
Bondfall 007 well teletubbies isn’t a film but I’d say it could be considered ironically scary
If a german viewer would write "Tanz der Teufel" the way Adam pronounced it it would be "Tens der tüfel, das Orijinahl"... I love it.
Okay, the image of Adam as Kimba wearing his father's skin has me concerned for Daddy Derek.
We’re you trying to reference different YMS reviews at once?
@@brad_hensil There's a split second where Adam is switching screens (I think) and you can see some fanart of him wearing Kimba's dad's skin like a cloak pop up.
Imagine if you bought a painting from an artist. The painting isn't necessarily a masterpiece, but you really love it. You hang it your home and see it every day. It's part of your life.
After several years, you get a knock on the door. You answer the door and it's the artist. He (or she) barges into your home, armed with a paintbrush, and says that he wasn't happy with some small aspects of the painting he sold you. He proceeds to paint over and change several details of the painting.
You still like the painting, but you just want it back the way it was, but the artist refuses.
You know what's additionally annoying? Someone told you to get that German blu-ray without actually having seen it themself.
And wasted his money and time since in the time he waited for it to be delivered to him he could've just done this video anyway.
@@zachryder3150 we got a video discussion out of it.
I remember when i was 16 and i got the Evil Dead blu-ray, i had no idea they even touched it like that, because the big charm of that movie is how by the seems it is, and that's what I wanted. No Rob. No bad moon effects. No blood pumping thingy. Was pretty sad.
For anyone interested in the original Star Wars (un-Lucas'd), I'd highly recommend checking out the Silver Screen version, a transfer of someone's personal 35mm print. It's not very cleaned up (you can even see reel change indicators, scratches, tons of film grain), so if you want to see the film as close to it's original version as possible, definitely check it out
Anchor Bay doesn’t exist as a company anymore so they won’t be the ones to go to. Lionsgate has The Evil Dead now
Nope, Sam Raimi/Rob Tapert own the rights to the first Evil Dead themselves, and they licence it to distributors for home media such as Lionsgate in the US and Sony in the UK. The sequels are owned by different companies though (ED2 is owned by Studiocanal, and Universal owns US rights to Army of Darkness, MGM I think own international rights) which was why Ash Vs. Evil Dead couldn't have any references to Army of Darkness until around Season 2 when they figured out some sort of agreement with Universal.
I never even thought about that being a tube. I always assumed it was an artery or something shooting out blood, so that actually worked. Don't understand the need to change that
I legitimately hate when directors do this I can understand releasing a directors cut but why meddle with your own movie?
If they want to release a new version, fine, but the problem comes when they then attempt to erase the original version completely and only sell the new cut
@@mallyxtheunyielding7212 Exactly
"Because it's their movie to fix"...
I don't like this argument, because once a movie (or any piece of art) is released to the public for their enjoyment, it's then in the public domain and, in a sense, belongs to everyone.
This is especially true when something has gained a fan base or cult following (see also Star Wars). The fans of The Evil Dead provide a tremendous contribution towards its longevity and success. Without them, this movie would be relatively unknown and certainly no-one would be bothering to go back and tinker with it. Yet I bet you can't find me a single Evil Dead fan who actually welcomes these changes.
Another question... Who are these changes actually for? Fans of the original cut clearly love the film with way it is, but the changes hardly upgrade the movie in such a way that a new viewer would like the 'improved version' but dislike the original.
By all means release alternative cuts of movies - sometimes they can be an improvement - but don't try to erase the originals (that some people fell in love with) from history. That's just mean.
@@matthewcooke4011 I feel like it's not even just mean--it's actively harmful. It's like trying to lie or erase history. Again, if you *want* to mess around with it that's okay but actively destroying the original versions or making them impossible to get is not okay
After this, Adam makes a 2 hour YMS rant about it and Lion King video gets postponed again, lol
I would like to find a list of films that have been changed from theatrical release to home release. The only ones I can think of is star wars, the exorcist, and the evil dead. But at least with the exorcist, you have the option to watch the theatrical cut in HD.
Of course, small changes, I think, are fine. Like removing film grain, fixing tears digitally and making the picture quality better. But, as is more evident in star wars, relying on CGI to "fix broken effects" just looks worse and dates the film more.
What version of the DVD does Adam have? If thats the OG, then I would like to see it.
As a newcomer to The Evil Dead, when I bought the Blu-ray as my first time watching, I had no idea that it had been altered. I'm only just now finding out about this!
I hate to think that others might never find out about how wonderfully low-budget and amateur TED is. Like Adum says, it's an important film.
The 4K disc of the 1999 version of _The Mummy_ similarly has at least one mistake painted out that I noticed. (An unintentional crack that appears in a piece of set-dressing seems to have been painted out digitally in the 4K version.) However, the Blu-Ray disc that comes with the 4K disc still has the mistake intact, so it seems to only be a change on the 4K disc. So at least it's not erasing history. I don't necessarily have a problem with companies altering movies or fixing mistakes... but *only* as long as they *have the original, unaltered version available* as well.
Don't forget the other altered George Lucas film, THX 1138.
I loved THX 1138 in it's director's cut version, but I'll give anything to get a hd version of the original cut. Those new additions were so out of place in comparison to the rest of the style on the film, it's so still and calm all the time and suddenly those awful cg sections come in with total disregard to the visual language established.
Bruno Herrera On torrent sites you can get an HD version of the 1977 director’s cut of THX that was restored in a similar way to 4K77. You can also find laserdisc quality rips of the theatrical cut.
Also Raiders of the Lost Ark replaced a cliffside with a CGi version during the chase.
I really hate what Lucas did the THX 1138, maybe even more than what he did to Star Wars. THX was a low budget art film, not a commercial blockbuster, so "fixing" it doesn't make any kind of sense. As I recall, the main two changes were the CG "tunnel monkeys" near the end, and the color grading changed to give the movie a warm look, whereas the original had a cold, raw look. You can still see that look in the trailer, on the same disc as the "fixed" movie.
Nice Try Adam probably disagrees
I'm pretty certain this wasn't Raimi's doing as the battle for the rights of the first ED were the reason the second movie is a soft reboot/retelling of the first without directly referencing it
I'm glad someone other than myself has pointed these things out. As a huge Evil Dead fan, I noticed all of the changes the first time I watched it on bluray. I don't take huge issue with the changes like backgrounds and the shutters they put in the windows, but I would still like to have the option to view the #TapertCut.
Honestly, I want a proper edit of Army of Darkness more. The Tiny Ash sequence is funny as hell, but it's always hacked to pieces.
It's weird how neither of the main version of AoD is satisfactory. In the commentary on the director's cut, Raimi even says he preferred a joke that was in the theatrical version! Plus if you stick with the director's cut, you lose the classic "Hail to the king" line. I assume there are fan edits out there, but I don't have the bandwidth to explore that area.
Can you explain what they did with the tiny ash scene? I'm gonna have to keep my eyes peeled the next time I watch it
@@doctorbrown5957 In the full length scene Ash goes outside the windmill and is startled by his horse. When he turns back towards the windmill, he sees himself standing in the doorway looking menacing. So, he runs inside to catch the imposter Ash and runs directly into the mirror releasing the tiny Ashs from the reflective pieces of glass. The scene runs a lot longer than the theatrical cut and the slapstick comedy is good. There's more that happens with that bucket of lard too. I just wish there was a full length version of the scene with music.
What scene did they add shutters to the windows?
Pretty sure its when Scotty is first looking through the cabin. I could be wrong on that one though.
Genuinely disagree with Adam on why they shouldn’t have fixed these things, the whole “nah man, the fuck ups of a low budget 70s movie are what make it soooo cooool, man”, and his overreaction of how bad the bridge edit was. It’s also worth considering it took up like 8% of the screen. I’ve been watching adam for years now, but these kind of 20 min “it’s sooo fuckin insaaaaaannee” overreactions annoy me a little bit. Still love him tho
I do agree with him on that the original cut should also be available, too
It's pure hipster bullshit.
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the original should be available but I don’t think you should get mad if the creator wants to fix something about the movie that has been bugging him for decades
Personally i didn't mind any of these except maybe the jarring transition when the evil scott wakes up. Then again, i'm not sure if it's any worse than the obvious jarring jumpcut in that moment. I'm thankful that they fixed that fucking awful moon in a bluebox effect. That one always took me out of the movie and out of the atmosphere in the original version. Why even have the moon there in the first place when it clearly sticks out and looks shitty? I can do without tapert standing there in the background randomly for fixing the moon. They should deffinatly release the original cut, but these changes are closer to the changes they made in Blade Runner: Final Cut rather than "George Lucased" edits. Many people prefer that over any other cuts too, including me.
gives me Silent Hill HD Collection vibes, just awful retcons that completely miss the real meta point of the original materials
It actually depresses me how many comments are "Yeah, although I've never seen the Evil Dead." 😂 bruh, what have you people been doing with your life?
Why is somebody watching this if they don't have an interest in Evil Dead? I'm glad if they get enjoyment out of it anyway but it just seems like it would be a boring video if you didn't have context.
@@Eightsixseven23224 It is interesting in case you wanna watch The Evil Dead to know what version to watch. Also, if you're interested in filmmaking in general.
@@Eightsixseven23224 because I like Adum
A few other examples of films that have been George Lucased or changed in a minor way that has not been reversed since;
- Fantasia (1940), complete removal of racially insensitive stereotypes among other numerous edits.
- THX 1138 (1971), comparable to Star Wars in terms of massive changes and edits.
- Jaws (1975), removed string on the buoy in the opening scene, slightly changed window lighting in one shot setup while the crew on the Orca talk about their scars to match the rest of the scene.
- Amadeus (1984), the theatrical version has been out of print for about 20 years, while the Director’s Cut is the only version to be released currently, even in HD.
- Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991), fixed prop flaws and replacement of stunt double faces, as well as a completely new color grading, excessive DNR and changed lighting in certain scenes.
- Beauty and the Beast (1991), the skulls in Gaston's eyes that were added to the Special Edition still remain in the Theatrical Cut.
- The Lion King (1994), some changed animations.
- Titanic (1997), multiple changes to the sky in certain scenes, fixed prop flaws and other movie mistakes.
- Gladiator (2000), the modern-clothed crew member in one of the arena crowd shots is no longer visible.
The changes to Fantasia are far more involved than you suggest, as the film has been repeatedly altered almost from the year it was first issued! The controversial scenes were removed in 1969.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasia_(1940_film)#1942%E2%80%931963_runs
Thread Bomb Thank you! To be honest I didn’t know the exact extend of the edits.
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Replying for the same reason.
@@Bradleyplausse I will do the same
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@@All4Tanuki hell yeah, cyriak is awesome (what's your favorite video of him?)
Yeah the thing about living out in the woods is - it doesn't exactly take you out of reality if some rando is just standing in the bushes. That happens sometimes. Could be a local - could be a hiker. Hell, it could be me, I might be drunk and pissing.
Evil dead is a wonderful film due to it's flaws. getting rid of it's flaws is like robbing the film of it's soul.
This isn’t just a problem for Evil Dead, it’s a problem for every book, movie, tv show and anything.
If you are this mad about the evil dead I hope you didn’t buy the Jaws blu-ray or 4K since they did the exact same thing to that film by fixing the mismatched exterior lighting.
There was once a channel called Monsters HD that aired this movie in high-definition before the Blu-Ray release. Wonder if those edits were present back then, too...
Holy shit I thought I was losing my mind the last time I watched it and bridge guy wasn’t there. This makes me feel more sane but bummed they took it out
I can understand why directors want to go back and "fix" things because while doing a movie with such a limited budget I'm sure they made unwanted compromises for certain things. But once you release something, it becomes the memory most will have. So going back and altering then preventing people from seeing their initial memory is like a weird nostalgia Mandela affect combination. I feel like this is a bigger problem with older movies because of how limited digital distribution was (and obviously for Evil Dead, not a thing) so the original copies become the only way to preserve something like this but now I feel it should be as simple as offering multiple editions on a website for download. (And yeah a digital original copy is still a thing but easier to keep a thumbdrive per say then a giant film reel)
I have the blue ray from target and it has the audacity to ask me if I want to watch the original version or the enhanced version when neither have rob in the bushes
I think I've seen Evil Dead at least a dozen times and I never once noticed Tapert in the bushes until it was pointed out to me. Such a pointless and bizarre change for them to make
This movie is important because it should make you feel like you can do anything like these fine young people did in the making of this movie.
Funny you used the term “George Lucased.” Even George Lucas kept a large chunk of the mistakes from “A New Hope” during the release of each Special Edition. The famous Stormtrooper bumping his head on the door, for example, was made even more obvious in the 1997 release when Lucas had the sound team add a “BONK” sound effect because there was a special charm to that scene and fans loved it to the point that there’s actually lore behind it. Which goes to show no matter how many times he changes and “enhance” certain scenes, there’s always a charm to some of these flaws and to show how much shit they had to face when making the film back in ‘76.
Considering how Rob tapert treats the franchise, it was probably his decision
Even the most recent 4k Blu ray has been edited to remove Rob Taper. This time they put in a tree in his place. It's a shame that films are changed and altered from their originals.
i need that shirt !!!
I think it's on Red Bubble somewhere. I wanted to get it but the max size was one too small. Maybe if I lose weight...
JohnnyUtah is the artist, you can get it on a shirt at teespring also. He also did similar artwork with the Park and Kim family from Parasite.
Hi Adam, I just curious as to why you are upset with all the changes but are ok with DNR and grain removal? Previous HD versions of Predator had heavy DNR and turned everybody into waxy weird blobs. I personally would want the original versions to have warts and all and original grain.
I don't understand why they feel the need to edit these out! I have a fond memory about the film where my Dad excitedly pointed out all the goofs and Tapert in the background because he spotted them when he first saw the film and wanted to show me when I first saw the film. It's such a strange move to make because now all those bits are missing!
#ReleaseTheTapertCut
I think Adam is getting too upset about this imo, I mean, he's literally criticising a section of a frame that was edited to remove a genuine mistake. And he had to watch a side by side to even confirm it. It's the same thing regarding the matte painting of the moon, like, I hardly noticed it. The stuff with the blood tube is a bit over the top to remaster, but literally taking someone not meant to be in the shot out of it seems a bit much to be upset over. There's low budget amateurish charm, and then there's an actual mistake. For me, this is like complaining about removing a member of the public in a remastered version of a movie where it was overlooked, and the scene was intended to be in a barren desert or something, and saying "but they were on a low budget and this is so charming, how could they do this?" It just seems kinda stupid. Remasters are supposed to remove mistakes or make the film look a bit nicer, and iirc they are done by the original director? So removing this is probably them saying "yeah we overlooked this and he looks really out of place, let's remove it." It's also not like they recalled all versions of the original and burned them along with the original reel. Adam himself says "when i first watched it I didn't notice it" so why is it so upsetting? I do agree that the untouched original should have been released with the remaster, I'm all for that, I do love the preservation of originals, it's the reason I still own quite a few VHS tapes, but this seems, idk, pointless?
I totally agree on the conservation of the original film and that it should be available on bluray and all, however adam makes himself look really stupid when he's getting obsessed over a few frames that no one even notices or cares about and acting like it's noticeably worse. Even worse that he acts like nobody cares about the actual atmosphere or filmmaking or scares of the original film and people only care about the film because of its technical flaws, which is just ridiculous
Well, they also entirely removed the commentary track and replaced it with a different one, Adam just nitpicks on shot composition, a lot. It just seems stupid to "fix" all the little mistakes in the movie, when, like you said, nobody noticed them, and then release the movie as a "remastered" version.
Germany always has the uncut version of everything for some reason.
Not this time, I guess.
As a german, i would say the opposite, i can't find things like BrainDead or the OG Dawn of the Dead uncut here.
Dude, it’s kind of the opposite. There are countless films that were cut down for their release in Germany in order to get a lower FSK rating. This isn’t even only applicable to horror films, the first Narnia movie for instance was heavily cut down and even got lines of dialogue changed for theatres and DVD and the uncut version only saw the light of day when the Blu-ray came out. They even did the same with the third one and only released its uncut form on 3D Blu-ray exclusively.
I haven't seen it mentioned so I'll tell you a few facts about the German version of Evil Dead:
The title 'Tanz der Teufel' literally translates to 'The dance of the devils'.
The movie was banned a few years after its VHS release in 1984. It was not only banned from being advertised, but its sale was forbidden entirely in Germany. Even the distribution of used copies was illegal. Throughout the years a total of 3 censored versions were made for the german market, only the last of which actually was released. Until it was banned again for a few months.
This apparently happened a few more times until 2016 when Sony pictures, the owner to the distribution rights in Germany put in a complaint and the film was finally unbanned after over 30 years of fighting. So I'm not sure if a German Original DVD without the remastered changes even exists.
Kinda crazy. It's certainly one of the most notoriuous examples but it was not uncommon until at least the late 90s that Germany banned a lot of violent media.
The original Quake and Doom games were banned until 2011 for example.
I got a German DVD version that I bought in 2002, and it's the original one.
So George Lucas and Sam Raimi were the kids in high school that demanded they get an even better grade on their essay that they revised 5 months after already having an A, confirmed? I’m positive their teachers had to haaaaaate them...
But then they ended up being worse than the original...
@@laurarosales19 pretty much
Laura Rosales They “revised” it because they don’t like their own flaws, which both the teacher and none of their classmates had any problems with in the first place. They’re the kids who can’t get it past themselves that it’s okay to not be 100% perfect, which drives themselves (and everyone around them) insane.
Laura Rosales Also why I’d think the teacher would grade it worse, regardless of what changes were made lolol.
Is this what it’s like when a grill tries to be funny?
Red Dwarf did the exact same thing with their dvd releases. They changed some amazing model shots to shitty cg.
This is why all my movies are on DVD/VHS
I love seeing those little mistakes. It makes movies so charming. I don't notice stuff like this until after I've seen the film a few times and it's great to see.
Why can't they just leave film the way it was originally released? It may seem petty to complain about it and a bit nit picky but when they do this to a film it loses that authenticity... that charm.
I will say though, the first Evil Dead is unironically scary. I know that's subjective, but I feel the amateur nature, especially in the stop motion, is what helps make it scarier and more palpable. Especially the yellow puss and milk in the blood. Or the fact they actually held a chainsaw up to an actor's chest. The scrappy "they actually almost killed eachother/themselves" nature of the film helps elevate the scare factor imo.
I have the recent 4K release AND the Sony Blu Ray(all special features on the movie disc and some new ones, that's why I imported) but it's the same as the German and USA blu ray. This happens all the time and very rarely is it reported. When Lionsgate released EVIL DEAD 2 on blu ray, they digitally erased the rod you can clearly see under Henrietta's flying eyeball. The recent 4K release of Gremlins, they digitally erased a puppet rod from one of the Gremlins arms in the kitchen scene. BUT, weirdly, they didn't go to the same trouble to digitally erase a puppeteers hand during the caroling scene. Why do one and not the other???? It would have taken a lot of time and money.....so why just do the one rod? It's baffling. I'm sure there's a ton more to various other movies that I haven't found yet.
First time I saw Evil Dead it was on a heavily censored 80's UK VHS.
I think my experience was slightly worse than this blu-ray.
I refuse to believe Raimi is the one who approved of this
I think Tapert is more likely responsible.
Evil dead isn’t suppose to be widescreen!
In the proper pillar box version does he still show up?
Every film George Lucas has made has been edited for the versions you can get today.
The only way to get the unedited versions of George Lucas’ films is to buy them on laserdiscs or widescreen vhs legally. Every dvd and higher quality version is changed.
I have that DVD version of the evil dead because it has extras that no other release has. The new blu-ray and 4K have the new version of film that still has visible tubes in it. They didn’t fix every problem which is the dumbfounding thing about it.
George Lucas ruined his films with every special edition he made. The only special edition version that made the film better was the first special edition version of the phantom menace that he then changed for the blu-ray and 4K release.
The matrix is also a film that was changed for any version after laserdisc and vhs. The color timing is completely different.
If you want the original versions of films you need to buy Laserdisc, vhs & dvds. You won’t get the originals on most blu-rays and 4ks.
Also fuck removing film grain! That is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard. It was shot on film and should have the grain.
No, I have the Unedited 2006 re-released DvD editions of the original star wars trilogy, picked them up last year luckily
@@yellowfamilyfunny3065 those are all taken from the edited laserdisc definitive release fam. The picture quality is bad and the only one that has anything from the "original' release of the films is the beginning of Star Wars that has the original opening crawl. Nothing else is original in those versions but thanks for the misinformed comments dude.
@@yellowfamilyfunny3065 I have just Star Wars from the 2006 releases since just the opening crawl is worth getting that dvd for. Plus that version is a recreation of the stereo theatrical release not the "unedited" or original version since that has never been released legally. Only Lucas film he directed to get the theatrical versions released is the Phantom menace and it was on VHS. Do some research or know your facts before you comment dude.
I've seen Evil Dead probably over 100 times, on many different formats (DVD, VHS, TV cut, Blu-ray, streaming, etc) and never noticed Rob Tapert just standing there. The other stuff with the tube and the moon always noticed and appreciated about it. I've known for a long time that these changes were made to the Blu-ray and while it sucks, I lived with it because:
A. I personally love the film (I own it on like 6 or 7 formats) for more than its cheapness, I genuinely think it has a great gloomy and grimey atmosphere no matter the version. Although I will stick to my DVD for now, after seeing how badly they fucking removed Rob and the flipping of Linda's scream.
And B. Sam Raimi wanted the film to be a serious in tone and scary film so him removing the cheaper aspects makes sense from the Lucas boomer "now we have the technology" perspective.
But still #ReleaseTheTapertCut
@Elias Guelbenzu its one of the earlier releases, like very early 2000s, as far as I know every DVD release before 2010 is untouched.
I recently purchased the UHF 25th Anniversary Edition blu-ray direct from Shout! Factory. I read beforehand that the visual transfer is excellent, but it subtracts from the special features on the 2002 DVD, while including one new feature. It ports over nearly all of the special features, but it lacks the easter eggs (though they are advertised on the cover, apparently having been intended but cut to make a deadline). The audio commentary also lacks the visual gags where Al would stop the movie to say something or make a joke, or when he would appear in silhouette and walk in front of the picture MST3K-style. As for what they added, you get a 51:06 2014 ComicCon panel with Al, hosted by Jonah Ray. All-in-all, doesn't sound too bad, but it is eternally frustrating how these new releases can't just copy everything that was on the old DVDs. I hope it's good; it's going to be like a month wait before I actually receive the thing in the mail, at the pace they're going thanks to COVID.
Honestly don't scrub away the film grain. It'll soften the image more and erase the details within. Other than that, *RELEASE THE TAPERT CUT* !!!
Is it possible the altered version gets its own "production" so its like they are releasing and distributing a 'new' film (contract-wise), but for different/more money than a simple restored re-release would bring? If so, pretty bad to incentivize this kind of thing.
I understand hating your old work, but I definitely wouldn’t want to erase it from existence. Especially if it’s the film that got my foot in the door. It’s a great way to see how far I’ve grown.
20:44 you can see that part of a tree is missing through the bridge fence, they "fixed" and ended making a whole new mistake
I understand and agree with Adam in removing the original stuff...but the film, to me, is a classic because of how unbelievably terrifying it was to me when I first watched. The low budget, the fantastic and inventive direction and practical effects make this is a classic horror film for me.
Another thing like this that really bothers me is that the shitty "comic book" director's cut of The Warriors is the only version on blu ray. I hate this phenomenon in games too, where shitty remasters take the place of, instead of coexisting with, the original work.
It's not quite the same situation, but one of my favorite movies of all time is the Muppets Christmas Carol. I know so much about that film--how it was made and shot. I never cease to marvel of how the opening shots of the town is a breath-taking, stunning miniture with such beautiful detail and design. Ugh. (If i was rich, I would do everything I could to buy that miniature haha.) But one thing that really, really bothers me is it is impossible to find the original cut. Even the 20th anniversary Blu-ray doesn't have the original cut. It only has the theatrical cut which cuts When is Love is Gone from the film. It is Meredith Braun's only song in the movie and is essential to centextualize the relationship between Belle and Scrooge. It acts as the lowest point in Scrooge's encounter with the Ghost of Christmas Past. Without it, the reactions of Scrooge and Rizzo the Rat lack necessary context. It's absence is obvious, and it is a lesser film for it. (But, of course, they always keep the shitty pop version of When Love is Gone in the credits...🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄).
I don't know why I am so passionate about this particular movie haha but it means so much to me. It was the movie that made me interested in film.
I got to see it on 35mm at the theater it premiered at. Not only was it in it's original 1.37.1 aspect ratio but it looked incredible and organic. Personally recommend the Japanese Laserdisc if you're looking for something as close to the original experience as possible.
This is why I keep ALL my old discs.
To be fair, it is quite odd for there to be a guy standing there next to the bridge in the middle of an evil forest for no apparent reason.
And FYI, that "tube" in the deadites cheek is called a vein. That is were blood is stored. So it makes logical sense for it to be there.
EDIT: 7:18 Wait, it was in the shoulder? I remember there being a close-up shot of a deadites cheek, after Ash shot it. (I think Scotty was injured on the couch at this point.)
I never knew about this. I feel so....violated. Arrow Video or Criterion or Shout! Factory or SOMEONE, ANYONE, NEEDS to get on this!!!
I don't understand making these changes. When I watched the movie, I NEVER noticed any of these goofs. They are obvious when you know about them, but on first viewing, most people will never notice them.
This actually really got me. I had the same experience with this movie. The flaws and that original commentary are really what made it such an important moment in my youth.
Jay Bauman probably has 17 copies of the original and probably has the literal film it was filmed on
It's like the new ultra clean texas chainsaw 74 discs.
Yeah sure, it looks brilliant Luke it was made yesterday but I'd prefer a slightly blurred grain o rama version that gave it that gritty documentary feel like we saw it originally in drive ins...
I dont mind remasters of films correcting issues, adding cg, doing whatever, so long as the release includes an unaltered original print. The Blu rays of the original star trek series did this right. Nothing wrong with creating an ideal version of a film with fixed issues, so long as the original is still there.