Geelong supporter here...of course theres a but. BUT, Geelong have done everything they could've thus far...cant do more than win all 6 games. And, playing a great style of footy. Looking forward to the next 4wks.
I think the BUT is, the depth of the team . As long as Stewart, Cameron, Hawkins and Dangerfield stay on the park they will go ok , Can win they last day of the season ? who knows I think it will be like years gone by where they get close as they can bank enough wins from home games , BUT I think their midfield depth against a true contender on the MCG is not there this year. BUT they have a great coach so lets see.
@@chinathesideyoudontsee8157 That's a fair analysis. I think Cam Guthrie is a significant in that will offset the midfield depth issue. That and the use of players like Jez up the ground to support midfielders. Saw it with bulldogs; their 3 stars dominated possession in round 4, but cats had so much depth with players like Miers and Jez getting mid-20 effective disposals.
Its that, people forget the amount of experienced players they have back in this season, fit and playing well. There's atleast 5 and then tim Kelly on top. Having all these players is huge.
The most damning piece of play for Power was 20+ minutes into last quarter. Port had kicked a couple of goals and had a bit of momentum they won the centre bounce, Horne-Francis handballed to Rozee, ran beside him instead of shepherding for him and got run down! No defensive thoughts at all!
our mids are elite at running forward but have been terrible at defense in the last couple years. we're a glass canon team. won't be able to beat good teams in big games until everyone learns how to defend.
Can someone please please ask Kane if he would have Reid or Horne-Francis who wears Kane’s Jumper Number. . Both Pick 1, I would have Reid in a hearbeat ! ! !
Harley Reid puts bums on seats, viewers in front of the screen, he has star power already. Watched all WCE matches this year because of Reid, well worth it. You can see the way Yeo (a star) has lifted, Kelly (has lifted to his Geelong heights), Petro, Wakeman, Darling (not a great lol), Ginbey, Maric, Long, Brockman and Cripps are all bursting at the seams to play well because Harley just busts the game open, and they all jump in to help. There is a load of talent in the WCE team and Harley was the missing ingredient. Wakeman is coming back from his illness (alcoholism?) and is playing out of his skin, plus Barrass and McGovern are as solid as ever. I have probably left a few out who are doing well too, but boy the WCE are a must watch with Reid, Harley and Kelly, they are going to thrash some teams this year. Play WCE soft, and you will get what you deserve, a thrashing. I like Bucks more as a media personality than as a coach of Collingwood, yet his time as coach certainly improved him as a media personality. Though, he was a natural media personality years ago, just like he was a natural footballer. Go Bucks! Go Pies!
All them stars you say have lifted, they ain't lifted. They're actually fit and playing every week, there's about 5 premiership players back in this side that they havnt had playing consistently or even training. Makes a BIG difference and allows for harley to do his thing.
I think if west coast traded for two high first round picks and took say Caleb Windsor and Daniel Curtain then 100% their collective output would be great than that of Harley Reid.
Everyone’s giving Rachele crap about the dropped marks, understandably, but he already “fixed” his mistakes when he took that strong contested mark at half forward with about a minute left. Then he burst through the stoppage and almost kicked the winner thirty seconds later. That’s a young player course-correcting within game, without even needing to have a conversation with the coach. He’ll be fine.
What is Geelong's %? 141.. the best in the comp. Yes they have played more weaker sides but does the fact their % is best in the comp vs only around the 110-115 mark not generate them some respect? Im looking more at the way they have gone about winning more than just the win loss. Next month will tell them a lot about us but theyre right back in contention IMO.
Port stopped at the 6 minute mark of the second quarter after looking in control of the game - almost 5 goals up at that stage. A pathetic display by Hinkley in the box and the Port leaders on the ground to stop the slow bleeding. Basically Port then conceded 8 unanswered goals by the Pies, and 10 of the next 11 goals.
Fig Jam is correct about Cats&Bombers I personally think Cats are the yard stick they are such a well oiled machine extremly hard to beat they take on the opposition differently to each team they play but there is always the uncertainty of each game and with the Don's all they need to keep doing is keep applying there tackling pressure pressure that counts will take them to more wins than losses but there pressure is imperative 2sucess
Rachelle likes to think he’s the man celebrating goals in opponents faces and stuff like that, he can be a man and deal with all the backlash he cops from his 2 cowardly efforts dropping uncontested marks
That's a rule, just because you don't know it doesn't mean it was a charity. 10m makes more sense, it's the length of the goal square and makes it CLEAR to umpires and players and easier for both.
Nobody is already a start without doing anything in the big league. Lots of first round picks have come through the system and then faded away. Others picked in later rounds have become some of the greats for numerous clubs. Reid does look like he belongs at the highest level. Sam Walsh at the Blues also started like that, and shined in what was a poor team that hardly won a game. Self driven "potential-champion' players perform under any conditions and are usually very consistent. Look forward to seeing more of Harley on the road
@@PetraKann What i saying is he was born a star its just now people are working it out. I watch every game i can live on tv loin vs cat was a close game but soon as freeo & WCE started i jumped over to watch the Harley Reid show in a game that wasn't even close. That's star power. We are not talking about hall of fame or legend status YET but the guys a star.
@@TetherT I loathe WCE, yet I have watched every match this year to see Harley lift the team in only the way a true champion can. Harley's a champ in the making and on the rise, just the way the other WCEs treat Harley tells me he's already loved beyond his time at the WCE, it's incredible. I support Collingwood and love NDaicos, but Harley Reid is much more dynamic, he's already a real man in the true sense of what a real man is, no soy in HR. Plenty of soy in the Daicos bois, real talents, but not as manly as Reid is lol.
@@ChiaroScuro-Pie respect from an eagles fan 🤛🏻 People do also forget the hype that daicos got in year 1, it’s similar amazement imo, but glad we have Reid
We'll see in his 2nd and 3rd year. Thats what counts, hundreds of players have had awesome starts . Look at the Daicos bros. A lot quieter this year and on Saturday they both made simple errors and turnovers..
Great call by Corn. Absolute comedy that anyone can call dropping dale to sub coaching brilliance. He was made sub off the back of 1 mediocre game when he was played out of position. First 3 games he was good off half back
Sam McClure has a contract for Harley to sign so that he cannot play for the Eagles in 2025 and for the rest of his Career. McClure's own career maybe in Jeopardy if Harley stays at West Coast
Yes the cats haven’t played the best of sides but cats are 4-0 away from home so far. Potentially could win an extra 5-8 games from interstate/ away from Geelong.
Welcome to the new world of made up words. By versed you mean played against? (ps. Versing also fits into this category - please get off screens and turn your brain back on…)
Question: how many of the experts said that Geelong would lose against those teams at the time? How many of the experts wrote Geelong off for the year? How many of these experts have forecast the fall of Geelong for the last 17 years? There is a BUT on how the so-called experts… so many said “St Kilda would be in the 8”… could it be that Geelong beat them and demoralised them then they lost. Western Bulldogs the same! Each time they play Geelong they have then lost progressively afterwards… could that me the pattern?
21:39 "If there has been any criticism and it is hard to find criticism if Walsh" Mate, don't you remember the past 5 years before 2023 of your criticism?
Was Rowell classed a star after his first 4 games, people forget he had like 9 votes from his first 4 games or something before getting injured. Even as a freo fan I laugh at Kane every day, Eagles need to trade harley for picks 😆 Kane's said more dumb shit than most, but his persistence and now the effect his had, if he signs long term that i expect in the next 3 weeks, kane better retire. 😂 U heard his signing long term within 3 weeks, today 22 April
Of course everyone is saying but everyone wants to know how much is geelong going to beat teams by in grandfinals no ones dominated the biggest days like they have a class above.
Geelong are great but they've had the easiest draw statistically of all 18 clubs. Sure they beat Brisbane in Brisbane but in horrific conditions. If you're ever going to beat Brisbane in Brisbane, it'll be in torrential rain. Brisbane beat Melbourne who were no doubt tired and sore from a 5 game break and arguably the hardest early fixture.
The weather isn't an excuse given that Brisbane won majority of the key stats, they lost the game by wasting forward entry. The only stat Geelong won was hit-outs, tackles and even turnovers by 3.
@@stilllearning1160 - Yeah, obviously. The point being is that Brisbane's loss wasn't because of the weather; especially considering their contested game is still one of the best.
Geelong has an easy draw at the start and one of the hardest at the end of the season. Geelong gets written off whether they lose games, win games, advantage at home, and whine when we want a home final like everyone else does when at the top end of the ladder, now an easy draw lol. It is so early in the season, and every team has a butt. However, give Geelong some credit for how they have started the season. It is comical and tedious. Let's see how Gold Coast go, who have the easiest draw of all the clubs to get them in finals.
Geelong supporter here...of course theres a but. BUT, Geelong have done everything they could've thus far...cant do more than win all 6 games. And, playing a great style of footy. Looking forward to the next 4wks.
Must be hard being a Geelong supporter after that agonising 3-week rebuild. Back in contention again.
I think the BUT is, the depth of the team . As long as Stewart, Cameron, Hawkins and Dangerfield stay on the park they will go ok , Can win they last day of the season ? who knows I think it will be like years gone by where they get close as they can bank enough wins from home games , BUT I think their midfield depth against a true contender on the MCG is not there this year. BUT they have a great coach so lets see.
They wrote Cats off at the start of the season after half the team out injured last year.These moronic so called experts stagger me.
@@chinathesideyoudontsee8157 That's a fair analysis. I think Cam Guthrie is a significant in that will offset the midfield depth issue. That and the use of players like Jez up the ground to support midfielders. Saw it with bulldogs; their 3 stars dominated possession in round 4, but cats had so much depth with players like Miers and Jez getting mid-20 effective disposals.
@@jumbo6009yeah I've been telling everyone the cats will bounce back after last year but everyone believed the media hype against them.
Harley has definitely given West Coast belief they haven’t had for a few years.
Its that, people forget the amount of experienced players they have back in this season, fit and playing well. There's atleast 5 and then tim Kelly on top. Having all these players is huge.
Yeo and McGovern too.
The most damning piece of play for Power was 20+ minutes into last quarter. Port had kicked a couple of goals and had a bit of momentum they won the centre bounce, Horne-Francis handballed to Rozee, ran beside him instead of shepherding for him and got run down! No defensive thoughts at all!
our mids are elite at running forward but have been terrible at defense in the last couple years. we're a glass canon team. won't be able to beat good teams in big games until everyone learns how to defend.
One of my biggest frustrations in todays footy is how little players shephard for their team mates.
Can someone please please ask Kane if he would have Reid or Horne-Francis who wears Kane’s Jumper Number. . Both Pick 1, I would have Reid in a hearbeat ! ! !
Harley Reid puts bums on seats, viewers in front of the screen, he has star power already. Watched all WCE matches this year because of Reid, well worth it. You can see the way Yeo (a star) has lifted, Kelly (has lifted to his Geelong heights), Petro, Wakeman, Darling (not a great lol), Ginbey, Maric, Long, Brockman and Cripps are all bursting at the seams to play well because Harley just busts the game open, and they all jump in to help. There is a load of talent in the WCE team and Harley was the missing ingredient. Wakeman is coming back from his illness (alcoholism?) and is playing out of his skin, plus Barrass and McGovern are as solid as ever. I have probably left a few out who are doing well too, but boy the WCE are a must watch with Reid, Harley and Kelly, they are going to thrash some teams this year. Play WCE soft, and you will get what you deserve, a thrashing.
I like Bucks more as a media personality than as a coach of Collingwood, yet his time as coach certainly improved him as a media personality. Though, he was a natural media personality years ago, just like he was a natural footballer. Go Bucks! Go Pies!
All them stars you say have lifted, they ain't lifted. They're actually fit and playing every week, there's about 5 premiership players back in this side that they havnt had playing consistently or even training. Makes a BIG difference and allows for harley to do his thing.
Kane Cornes spent months insisting that WC should trade pick 1. How does that suggestion look now?
You should learn to get less butt hurt when people have opinions
I think if west coast traded for two high first round picks and took say Caleb Windsor and Daniel Curtain then 100% their collective output would be great than that of Harley Reid.
Harley Reid spent months wanting to get traded, or you ignoring that
@@stevelozevski8151 It would be great to hear if he stands by that opinion.
@@x1800Gipsie It's a draft. Kids don't choose which clubs recruit them.
Good thing that WC kept 1, isn't it?
Im a mad lifelong Carlton fan, and i will be watching Eagles games to see Harley.
He's exciting. Its great for footy
Go Blues
Everyone’s giving Rachele crap about the dropped marks, understandably, but he already “fixed” his mistakes when he took that strong contested mark at half forward with about a minute left. Then he burst through the stoppage and almost kicked the winner thirty seconds later. That’s a young player course-correcting within game, without even needing to have a conversation with the coach. He’ll be fine.
😂😂😂sure that's exactly what matthew nicks thought. Hes a selfish footballer and scared to mark over his head
Horrible recipe
You don’t need a chat with the coach, the crowd will let you know much sooner.
What is Geelong's %? 141.. the best in the comp. Yes they have played more weaker sides but does the fact their % is best in the comp vs only around the 110-115 mark not generate them some respect? Im looking more at the way they have gone about winning more than just the win loss. Next month will tell them a lot about us but theyre right back in contention IMO.
Port stopped at the 6 minute mark of the second quarter after looking in control of the game - almost 5 goals up at that stage.
A pathetic display by Hinkley in the box and the Port leaders on the ground to stop the slow bleeding.
Basically Port then conceded 8 unanswered goals by the Pies, and 10 of the next 11 goals.
Fig Jam is correct about Cats&Bombers I personally think Cats are the yard stick they are such a well oiled machine extremly hard to beat they take on the opposition differently to each team they play but there is always the uncertainty of each game and with the Don's all they need to keep doing is keep applying there tackling pressure pressure that counts will take them to more wins than losses but there pressure is imperative 2sucess
Rachelle likes to think he’s the man celebrating goals in opponents faces and stuff like that, he can be a man and deal with all the backlash he cops from his 2 cowardly efforts dropping uncontested marks
Ports last goal was charity. Apparently a Collingwood player encroached the 10-m zone either side of the kicker, which used to be 5-m
That's a rule, just because you don't know it doesn't mean it was a charity. 10m makes more sense, it's the length of the goal square and makes it CLEAR to umpires and players and easier for both.
Of course the longest segment is Kane piling on Rachele 🙄
Harley Reid already become a STAR? No, His always been a star we only just found out recently.
Nobody is already a start without doing anything in the big league.
Lots of first round picks have come through the system and then faded away.
Others picked in later rounds have become some of the greats for numerous clubs.
Reid does look like he belongs at the highest level. Sam Walsh at the Blues also started like that, and shined in what was a poor team that hardly won a game.
Self driven "potential-champion' players perform under any conditions and are usually very consistent.
Look forward to seeing more of Harley on the road
@@PetraKann What i saying is he was born a star its just now people are working it out. I watch every game i can live on tv loin vs cat was a close game but soon as freeo & WCE started i jumped over to watch the Harley Reid show in a game that wasn't even close. That's star power. We are not talking about hall of fame or legend status YET but the guys a star.
@@TetherT I loathe WCE, yet I have watched every match this year to see Harley lift the team in only the way a true champion can. Harley's a champ in the making and on the rise, just the way the other WCEs treat Harley tells me he's already loved beyond his time at the WCE, it's incredible. I support Collingwood and love NDaicos, but Harley Reid is much more dynamic, he's already a real man in the true sense of what a real man is, no soy in HR. Plenty of soy in the Daicos bois, real talents, but not as manly as Reid is lol.
@@ChiaroScuro-Pie respect from an eagles fan 🤛🏻
People do also forget the hype that daicos got in year 1, it’s similar amazement imo, but glad we have Reid
@@ChiaroScuro-PieThats because city Melbourne is full of English cigarettes and Dean Laidleys.
How was St Kilda not even considered for loss of the round?
We'll see in his 2nd and 3rd year. Thats what counts, hundreds of players have had awesome starts . Look at the Daicos bros. A lot quieter this year and on Saturday they both made simple errors and turnovers..
Great call by Corn. Absolute comedy that anyone can call dropping dale to sub coaching brilliance. He was made sub off the back of 1 mediocre game when he was played out of position. First 3 games he was good off half back
About time Buckleys come out and told everyone how much better geelong is then collingwood as a football club just a class above
losing the Big O early was huge in that game...
we lost tom stewart too
Sam McClure has a contract for Harley to sign so that he cannot play for the Eagles in 2025 and for the rest of his Career. McClure's own career maybe in Jeopardy if Harley stays at West Coast
100% on Geelon...they have had an easy run ..it will be interesting when they play some genuine contenders
Geelong has mainly versed bottom 8 teams. Let’s see how they go against some good sides.
Yes the cats haven’t played the best of sides but cats are 4-0 away from home so far. Potentially could win an extra 5-8 games from interstate/ away from Geelong.
Welcome to the new world of made up words. By versed you mean played against? (ps. Versing also fits into this category - please get off screens and turn your brain back on…)
@@cmadelaide56They haven’t versed any good sides lol. Got an easy schedule that why they are 6-0. Now let’s see how they go against tougher opponents.
um brisbane
Question: how many of the experts said that Geelong would lose against those teams at the time? How many of the experts wrote Geelong off for the year? How many of these experts have forecast the fall of Geelong for the last 17 years? There is a BUT on how the so-called experts… so many said “St Kilda would be in the 8”… could it be that Geelong beat them and demoralised them then they lost. Western Bulldogs the same! Each time they play Geelong they have then lost progressively afterwards… could that me the pattern?
21:39 "If there has been any criticism and it is hard to find criticism if Walsh"
Mate, don't you remember the past 5 years before 2023 of your criticism?
Was Rowell classed a star after his first 4 games, people forget he had like 9 votes from his first 4 games or something before getting injured. Even as a freo fan I laugh at Kane every day, Eagles need to trade harley for picks 😆 Kane's said more dumb shit than most, but his persistence and now the effect his had, if he signs long term that i expect in the next 3 weeks, kane better retire. 😂
U heard his signing long term within 3 weeks, today 22 April
Wait always until about round 11,normally sorts out by then, contenders and pretenders.
Geelong ain’t played anyone at this stage….
There is always a BUT with Geelong
Of course everyone is saying but everyone wants to know how much is geelong going to beat teams by in grandfinals no ones dominated the biggest days like they have a class above.
you are port and collingwood biased lads. jack just like riewoldts richmond biased and others… don’t act like you’re not, it’s bad…
Geelong are great but they've had the easiest draw statistically of all 18 clubs. Sure they beat Brisbane in Brisbane but in horrific conditions. If you're ever going to beat Brisbane in Brisbane, it'll be in torrential rain. Brisbane beat Melbourne who were no doubt tired and sore from a 5 game break and arguably the hardest early fixture.
The weather isn't an excuse given that Brisbane won majority of the key stats, they lost the game by wasting forward entry. The only stat Geelong won was hit-outs, tackles and even turnovers by 3.
@@Alby911
Geelong did also win on the score board, just one more stat.
@@stilllearning1160 - Yeah, obviously. The point being is that Brisbane's loss wasn't because of the weather; especially considering their contested game is still one of the best.
Geelong has an easy draw at the start and one of the hardest at the end of the season. Geelong gets written off whether they lose games, win games, advantage at home, and whine when we want a home final like everyone else does when at the top end of the ladder, now an easy draw lol. It is so early in the season, and every team has a butt. However, give Geelong some credit for how they have started the season.
It is comical and tedious. Let's see how Gold Coast go, who have the easiest draw of all the clubs to get them in finals.
Geelong won’t be in the mix to win a flag at the end of the year the cream will rise to the top.
If Geelong won’t, who will?