ACE Strategy - Craps Betting Strategy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- ACE Strategy is part of the dice advice series. With this craps strategy you place bet across all the numbers and make c and e bet. (Any craps and eleven) with this craps betting strategy you will win with every roll of the dice except for seven. ACE is an acronym for Across, Craps, Eleven. Thank you to Dan Dessi for submitting this casino craps strategy.
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I went back and checked this exact same strategy except I had all the numbers working on the come out. Doing that, this would have made $488 vs the $415 shown. The lack of 7s showing up definitely helped this as on each come out roll, I was collecting $$. On one come out, he threw an 11 then a 3 then an 8. The working numbers paid $14, $6, then $5 while when they were turned off, they made -0-.
I like this strategy! Tons of craps numbers rolled. Strategies in the “anything but 7” category are really fun! Gimme all that action every roll!! Thanks for another great video Color Up!
its seems like a really bad strategy mathematically your best win an 11 roll you have to hit 3 times before a 7 to make a profit, your worst win a 6/8 you have to hit 7 rolls before you hit a profit. On average your just betting 1 out of every 5 rolls wont be a 7, if it is you lose, if not you win. I wont take that when a 7 comes up about 17.5% of the time.
Yes that is a great strategy thanks. Instead of winning 5 dollars betting the field you will win 6 or 14 and only risking 2 dollars instead of 5
Good job Jeremy you was finally able to roll a strategy, and shows the upside ,and down on it, without big red biting you all the time.
With my luck, 7 every roll. This strategy like all other needs a hot shooter. I will try it out the next time I’m at the casino.
If you set up and you don't put them on 7 all day will not win or lose you any money or the stuff for the $2 over and over again
But the good thing is if you act like you're shooting and you do the pass line 7 all day will give you some money
Lots of rolls for very little profit makes this strategy tough to profit with. Big red is absolutely brutal early too. I can see this being popular with all the action but it’s a little too high risk for me.
For the first half of the video it was obvious that a $4 horn would have been much better than the 2$ c&e. Will continue to listen and see how the last half goes.
my thoughts exactly and not just cause i seen the 12s and 2 but / 30 15 and odds is a way better bet imo . if your gonna be commited choose the horn for a few dollars more . hell im not even sure what the difference is other than the odds anyway and the bet on the horn . WHATS THE DIFFERENCE ?
This strategy RULES!!!!!
I have said it before and I will say it again, ANY strategy that either uses the Iron Cross or covers ALL the box numbers AND the horn numbers, I am going to be in favor of!
To make this strategy slightly better, I would collect ALL box numbers twice, and then for every 3rd hit of a box number, I would press it.
Playing tonight at M casino.
Played this morning at South Point Casino. Rolled for 30 min. Walked out $500 up. Played mostly Inside Numbers and a few bucks on hard ways.
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Nice, quality video! Great job!
Placing 5,6,8 for 5 units, then 2 units in the field, during the first 5 rolls you would have won $90 with only a $100 at risk. If you set a win goal, you walk away, with a daily profit.
Think it might be more profitable with the " ACE " strategy to go high low yo for the extra dollar. That way if the 2 or 12 hit your paid $31.But great video and nice strategy.
True but then you're missing the three
I think you should use a little extra and play the field too. It will cost a bit more, but it would compound your 2, 3, 11, and 12. Either that or an extra dollar on the Seven for extra insurance
Field bets have a 5.5% house edge.
I would call that a sucker bet.
Thank you for the video. I could see using this when playing on Crapless Crap, with 2,3,11,and 12 as the Point on the Come Out roll.
I like this approach, but it needs a strategy. Without an exit strategy, you’re just saying you’re going to leave 32 across indefinitely, and you’re always gonna lose it at some point. I’d recommend pressing to 3 hits, then regressing, possibly even turning numbers off (or even a portion of them) after 5 or 7 hits.
After watching many of your video, I summarised a sutiable one for myself with ratio placing as well. thanks for your hard work
I've watched a lot of your videos, just started playing. I use a varied version of the Iron Cross and do pretty well. Like you said just need a hot shooter
Yep
@Andrew- What is your varied Iron Cross version?
I play this strategy daily but lately been getting allot of crappy shooters so I now started watching TH-cam videos to try and see what could work. But I was averaging $700 in winnings daily using this strategy
40 per shooter 2 hits and down only way to consistently win. Plave 6 and 8 for 18. 1 hit give dealer 3 dollars press to 30 each. 1 more hit and doubled your money!
At $5 a win/roll (taking into account CE bets) it'll take you 7 rolls in a row to see a win of $3. The average roll being 8.5, you can expect an "average" net of $10 per point hit/7 out
Thanks again for your videos they do help alot. I like this strategy but the only thing I would do differently is place 36 on the 8 or 6. Wait until it hits take it down and use the 42 prophet then go 32 across and now I have 2 dollars for the c and e and 8.00 in the bank.
and what if you don’t hit the 6 or 8. You would be 72 in the whole.
@@education654321 yes that could happen but no one knows what a player rolls. We all have different ways I guess. But I wish everyone has a good day at the casino.
MrCoffeeDrink3r true you never know what these dice going to do.
Prophet?
I think that’s the longest I ever seen you roll lol
It was pretty decent:)
You're right, one of Color Ups longest rolls I think. 7's will kill this if they're coming up every 3 or 4 throws though.
Mr Vault yea but when it’s hot you make money very quick
I have seen a gentlemen that I play with bet with 3 units and then go a $4 horn to get the full odds. Obviously, he has a much bigger bankroll. When he gets his money back, he C & P it the rest of the way. (Collect one and Press Next)
nice! im going to be getting a practice table for in the house, any suggestions on filming setups like you are doing? thanks and keep up the videos!
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I know what you are trying to do. But in my opinion every time you roll a 2 or 12 you really are losing money. So here is my suggestion, why not put $4 or ANY CRAPS and $1 on the YO. That way you are making $27 when the "C" hits. Anyway, I would not be comfortable with this system. Would prefer to play across and the field which I actually did last weekend and was very successful with it. Anyway just my opinion. Really like your videos and thank you for doing them even if I don't agree with the system. You are a class act!!
Yes, if you hit the 2 or 12 hits, then you get paid more but you could get a shooter that never hits either number and your loosing 4 every bet plus the 1 on the Yo so 5 lost as apposed to only 2 lost if you do it this way. Unless I’m missing something, your profits are more doing it this way. I just came back from Vegas and played the iron cross which is a lot like this but I played the field. Less, profit at one time, but it worked for me and came away a winner at almost every session. I played for about 2 hrs every session and I was not only making money but depending on the casino, I racked up some comps. But I can see where if you were getting a lot of crap no. thrown that betting your way, you would get more profit in the end. This would also work with the iron cross I would think. However, you would need a shooter who rolls more outside numbers to make it work. I would definitely like to try this strategy at the tables.
I like this strategy, but would you be able to or even be allowed to play the don’t pass in this strategy. If so it’s almost impossible to lose. With $34 in place and c/e we could just play a $34 don’t pass bet and just use that as insurance
You could also play the don't, but on the first roll, come out roll, that is at risk also. After that it is fine insurance if you like to play that way.
Until the point comes before the seven...then you lose the $34
Using the exact same rolls with $32 across, instead of using the $2 C&E, I put $5 on the field and had everything turned on at all times. That gives me an exposure of $37 instead of $34. Using these rolls, I ended up with $484 instead of $415. With the $5 on the field, when the 4 or 10 hit, you get $14 ($9 from the place and $5 from the field), when the 2 or 12 hit, you get $10 from your field bet (2 and 12 pay double), and you get $5 on the 3 from the field bet. If the 5, 6, or 8 hit, you get $2 ($7 won but lose the $5 field bet) and you get $12 when the 9 ($7 from place, $5 from field) comes up. I think I'll go back and see what this would have done with the C&E and the places turned on during the come out roll and see if it would have done better.
Results are going to be totally dependent on each sequence of rolls.
What about placing also a $5 Horn and or $1 on all hard ways plus 7? With $5 in the field. It may be more volatile in the beginning but it should pay off in the end. $504 bank roll for 12 shooters @ 42 each, 517 for 11 @ 47 and 520 for 10 @ 52 each.
@@justindarst374 All of the prop bets are for suckers.
Ive seen a regular do this at my place really nice guy and he has the bets scaled up 5x. Ive never seen him walk away a winner, but he presses everytime a starter unit.
Yeah, I would recoup initial bet before pressing, but that’s just me
I like the strategy! Include incrementally pressing the CE and numbers with the winnings and it could be real profitable. I have to ask though, why not the Horn Bet instead of CE ? Any difference ?
I don't remember the strategy specifically, but to answer your question. The horn bet is always made in $4 increments, and the CE bet can be made with as little as $1. So the payoffs are a little different.
I know that you’re just out of chips as the “dealer”, but you should avoid coloring up mid roll, it stops the action. Just hang on them until the end, or toss $1/$3 for $10. Or use them for dealer bets/ tips.
Thank you
I like to place hard 4 and 10 instead of straight out place them as its a 50/50 chance to hit them anyhow. Other than that I've played this way before and in general if the hard 4 or 10 hits often you can walk away with couple hundred a session. Most the time I average about a 70% winrate with about an hour or hour and half of play, but have lost real fast with the 2'fer shooters too. If table is cold, usually hedge the bet by laying the point for 30 then placing all the other numbers. My experience in craps, win or lose...you stay at table longer than hour and half you going to walk away a loser no matter how hot the table is/was. Set a time limit and walk away when its up no matter what.
33% to hit hard 4 and 10, not 50/50. There are two ways to roll it easy (1,3 or 3,1)/(4,6 or 6,4) and only one way to roll it hard.
@@gregkelton81 those are the exact stats yes. I should have phrased that when I bet them I hit them 50% of the time throughout my experience. As I only bet the hard 4 and 10 if I bet any hard ways at all. You are 100% correct.
i do this but i bank first hit press 6 with 2nd hit , bank 3rd press 8 with 4th. bank 5 press 6 with 6th etc.. if table is cold i just hit 1 time and off till 7 then back on for 1 hit
This should be called The L.A.M.E. Stategy ... Lose All Money Expediently. 😄😄😄
It seems like this strategy would get killed on a choppy tabel. You hit a heck of a roll there.
Yep, just depends on how the dice roll.
Love your videos.
Why would you bet the C and E for 2 dollars when you could bet the horn and make more while spending less every throw?
Horn bet is $4 - spending less?
Can you place a C&E bet on the come out roll?
I can imagine shouting "BACKUPPP" for every roll. lol
So if we play this strategy can we play the don’t pass bar along with the ace strategy?
sure could
No such thing as a Don't Pass bar.
Hey Jeremy, just watched you on #DFSTavern TH-cam. You were good. Covered a lot & don’t be silly, You were just fine not goofyAt all! 😋 There’s 1 video, which really helped me (me... just a nurse hoping to learn Craps) . The 1 with your son. He asked so many good questions, that a novice Craps player would ask & without the stress learning Craps in an actual casino setting. That was a stellar video. BTW: We thank him for his service to our 🇺🇸! That makes 2 good guys. The Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Thanks for all the kind words.
Love your vids!
I'll be in Vegas at the end of the month and am gonna give this a shot and see how I like. :)
Good luck on coloring up!!
Of course i love the action on this but that house edge, yikes! Overall though, super fun to play especially on that hot hand you had!
Yep, house edge doesn't matter when hitting those bets, but long term not a good idea :)
Question on this Strat . Would it be worth placing a pass line bet ( even if not the shooter)
Pass line bet is a good bet. Play if you like
Def would play the CE on the come out... And press 3 times and go back to base...
If this were a $10 table I'd just bet the $4 on the Horn instead of the C E, that way you'll get more for the 2, 12, and 3.
Yea that would be better
This is very close to my guranteed winning strategy, but that's all I can say on that. If you do 3 more things then you can't lose guranteed. After 1,500 plus games I've never lost a single dollar.
The only way you can lose is if you roll a 7 or 11 on the comeout roll everytime you throw or immediately hit the point number in game everytime.
As long as you get in game with a point set and hit 2 numbers ( all numbers are covered 2-12 including the 7 ) then your in profit.
Only way to lose is 7/11 on come out? That happens 22% of the time, 8 out of 36, that’s a lot of losing for a guaranteed winning strat
So because the c and e on 90% of casinos are on you should just have your bets on the whole time
I love your chips! Are the custom made for you?
Nope. Amazon “Nexgen pro classic”
From where I'm sitting, it would be better to cover the 3 way craps and 11 with a dollar each, sure your risking 2 extra dollars per roll, but youd win 29 back on every 12 or 2, and 14 on every 3 and 11.
Personally, I always at least hedge the come out rolls with hi-lo bets, and honestly, I win more then I shell out on them almost every time.
If you are winning more than you are betting on the prop bets than your are defying probability and that is great, keep it up!
@J1128- So you don't hedge the 3 on the come out roll?
Wouldn't it be better to do 2 units across, and do a 4 dollar horn? Just wondering....
More risk = more reward or more loss
May be a stupid question but does it matter if you’re the shooter?
For this strategy it doesn't matter who the shooter is. If you are the shooter you will be required to also play a pass or don't pass bet though.
Why not play the pass line with odds on this strategy? then you still have all the numbers covered with the same amount with just a few behind for the odds. but chances are you'll win a few on the pass line if a 7 is on the come out roll. A $5 bet on the pass line if you roll a 7 roll then your making $3 if you keep up your C/E. you don't even need to put odds behind the pass line... I know its even money on the pass line unlike the place bets. But that is why you play the min odds behind. That is the strategy I would use in this especially if the C/E is always working on any roll
Couldn't you cover the don't on the come out and add odds after the point?
Sure could
Thank you for all your wonderful videos.
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I wrote down every dice roll on "Ultimate Craps Trainer"..12, 12, 3, 3, 2 2 2 ,3...go figure ! I wrote down every dice roll on "Wizard of oddds" new verson-The point was #8, Lost my Don't Come bet when a #5 was rolled.. Thanks
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Can you do a video on how to press and collect
Multiple of my videos cover this topic. CPR, press or regress, are place betters losers, and many others
Ummm.... that is a pretty basic process. Press when you feel like it and collect when you feel like it.
With this strategy would you be able to bet $2 on the horn rather than the C and E?
No, a horn bet is a minimum of $4, $1 on each of the horn numbers
Color Up got it. So you technically can modify this by betting investing $2 more on the horn?
@@arn0ld sure can
What’s the reason to play this strategy over, say, iron cross?
Play whatever you like. Field bet requires table min bet, the c/e do not. That’s just a guess why.
I got a picture of me in my Color Up shirt in front of the Craps table. Not sure how to upload it here.
Google is your friend good sir.
There isn't really a way to add here on youtube.
Thank goodness for FB messaging
Where did you get the table setup?
just my kitchen table, layout from casino4you.com
Out of all the strategies that you have on this channel, which one is your favorite?
See my video titled “my favorite”
$2 on the high/lo would've been a quick 60 in the first 3 rolls.
Shouldn’t the table say “15 to 1” or “16 for 1” for the Yo bet?
Yes it should...some table layouts rip you off more than others
@@ColorUp At my local casino in the UK it pays 17 to 1 and 32 to 1 on two and twelve. The minimum bet is also just £3
@@ebojfmdboojoh4023 where is that in the UK ?
@@neillees4672 The Victoria grosvenor casino, London.
@@ebojfmdboojoh4023 Ah ok thanks. I'm in Manchester. Not sure which casinos have craps up here . I've not been in a while but I'm itching to go again .
I would pull my bets after 3-4 hits if it is a random shooter and not me
Why wouldn't you just regress to a one unit bet?
How do we send strategy’s
Go to colorup.club and submit it to dice advice.
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Why dont you press the 55,6,8, and get $7 on every roll?
Just for demonstration purposes, I mention you are free to press/regress as you feel comfortable.
The prop bets are all poor odds. Just stick to the numbers. Also, when you're not betting on the line there is no reason to not be working on the come out roll.
Thanks
But you can also just play the horn bet and pay 4 dollars and get paid more money
I know right? If you going to place a bed bet at least place one that potentially pays 30 to 1 verses 7 to 1. Replacing that C&E on a constant basis not to mention how big the initial layout is is a Surefire way to burn through your bank roll.
Ingrid Matthews and the thing about it is if you press up your place bets and your horn. You will be winning much more.
Yes but make sure you bring a bank roll too because I’m sure you will be losing just as fast as you are winning lol. Honestly I think around 500 would be great and also pull you place bets down and don’t be greedy
Wow! I’m number one!
Isn't a yo 14-to-1, not 15-to-1?
Actually varies and casino can set whatever they want, the most common I think is 15:1
You place the $1 it wins 15 for 1 so your pay is $14 and you stay up... If you say come down they take that $1 and pay you$15. That is what I've seen at most casinos.
I kinda like it!
2 & 12 I would have bet that field 😂
I would just do $4 horn and have chance of much higher pay
Count to 6. Turn 'em off.
beardown1995 yes or 4
After 6 rolls you have your money back. Free rolling press them to the moon.
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Friggin C&E bets. I swear nowadays when you play in a casino every roll of the dice requires five minutes to resolve all the STUPID preposition bets in the center.
Why $2 back to the dealer 3:55 ?
C&E is a one roll bet and loses every time the 2,3,11,12 doesn't show so you have to replace the bet by giving the dealer $2.
This prolly has been mentioned before, but I call it the 30-30 CLUB
After the point has been established place $30 on 6/8 (replace with 5 if the 6 or 8 is the point)
Lets say 5 is the point.
After a 6 or 8, collect your $36 and drop 1 unit on the 6/8 making it $24 effective on both place bets. You are now dead even for this roll and will never be at risk.
When the next 6 or 8 is rolled place $5 on the remaining numbers (4, 9, 10) and collect the remainder (+13)
ALWAYS PRESS 4 & 10
Press the 9 to $10 and then $25 the following time. If the roll gets hot simply collect/press/collect/press on all numbers since you're playing with all house money.
ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS ROLL A 6 OR 8 BEFORE A 7! :)
CHEERS!
This is great. I'm gonna run this in the sim a few times and see how it goes. Thanks!
And at my casino if you hit either number they both stay up.
They don’t stay up for free, they take it out of your winnings
Color Up o ok
Why for the love of ghod are you not betting C&E on the come outs? That's when most players bet C&E.
I wouldn't recommend you always following what "most players bet" Anyway, most players use the C&E to protect from a loss with their pass line bet. This strategy does not utilize a pass line bet, so no need to protect with the C bet.
C and E bets are for suckers.
@@jimklemens5018 so why are you watching and commenting on a video for a betting system that is literally designed around them?
@@g4lt The betting strategy in this video isn't based on a Pass line bet, so there is no reason to make a C and E bet.
@@jimklemens5018 (okay, so commenting on it, since you clearly didn't watch it)
You would have been paid if you had pressed up every roll then come after a couple of hits
That does not seem like a very good strategy without pressing up...
I like most of your videos, But this one really suck. A couple roll of 7 and you will be in a deep hole and it’s so hard to get that money back.
Sure, you are hoping to avoid the 7 with this one.
I would play this by betting $96 across and making a $4 horn bet instead of C and E. Then after two consecutive box numbers take everything down.
Thanks for variation!
@@ColorUp Yeah my way is probably higher risk but that's just the way I would play. It's a nice strategy though
What do you consider a box number?
@@auctioneerjz 4,5,6,8,9,10. Basically the point numbers. I call them box numbers because they are in a box on the table layout
if you are the shooter you would lose your pass line bet on every crap shot
Jesus Christ as a come player I'd be pissed with all the craps you threw
sorry :)
No way. there is to much at risk and you are always giving money back to the casino with every roll. You need 7 numbers min just to make you're money back on each turn. its like playing the field just 3 dollars cheaper!
I tried this strategy out! You will never guess it, but after 10 strait rounds... I LOST $243!!! I know there is an element of luck in here like every game, but wow, I was not expecting this to fail so hard! Lol. I'm glad I'm not hurting from a $250 loss, but I hope no one tries this strategy as if it's a sure thing!
No strategy is a sure thing. Sorry about the loss. No matter how you play, the dice have to cooperate.
I goof around playing differently strategies at my craps table at home almost every day.
Tonight, I played three different styles. I started with $20K each time.
The first two strategies lost $20K in about 30 minutes each.
The next strategy (basically Pass line with full Odds bet and three Place bets) made me $81K profit in about 15 minutes. Actual time at a casino table would have been about 90 minutes.
In this scenario, I was setting the minimum bet at $100 and the maximum at $10K.
My largest bet was $3K on the Pass line. Point was 5 and I added $8K Odds bet. Winner, winner, chicken dinner! $15K when the 5 rolled!
Your pgms will get REALLY good when you STOP explaining things in WORDS (with no supporting action) and start SHOWING things as you describe them. You claim you're gonna show the live action, then you DIGRESS for a minute or two talking about C&E bets...very teasing and frustrating for the learner!!! FOCUS, man!!!
My videos are mostly all the same, I describe the strategy then roll it out. Sometimes I explain things over. I have to balance a couple things, many viewers are new and don’t understand things, and many viewers are veterans and all ready now everything. Also, I have done hundreds of videos and not sure what I have or have not covered in detail. Some people have watched me from beginning, some people find my channel on video #100 so it’s tough...Thanks for feedback and watching.
You are very good at criticizing buddy.
Go to the dark side!
Also, it's ridiculous to select your two dice out of the 5 the "stickman" pushes toward you. In an instructional video, this is a total waste of time. Just stick w 2 dice and ROLL them, fer crissakes...we wanna see the STRATEGY, not table manners.
It keeps it real like in the casinos
not a good one. i prom
Boooooring!!!!!