The straight 8 axle trailer can haul 13000 per axle, plus 32000 on the drive axles and 18000 on the steering axle. That totals come to 154,000 pounds or 77 ton (gross). It's possible to haul 91 ton on doubles with the axles spread out in Michigan. Check out "Michigan and Canadian trucks". JS
Pretty cool. I've seen roadwork done many, many times on the highways, but have NEVER seen a truck like that on doing any of the work. It's usually several smaller trucks. :o)
@comettoPL. Welcome from Michigan, USA. To turn, they pickup three axles and drag the rest around the corner. These trailers have been used in Michigan for over 40 years.
@kennjohnsen Some of the neighboring states allows entrance for a few miles. Ohio allows them to enter Toledo because of the Jeep plant and others in the area. I believe that Ontario still allows entrance eventhough they are themselves limited to nine axles.JS
hey nice vid man ive watched this before in total awww....im here in central iowa and we do asphalt hauling we dont have trailers near this big cuz for one iowa laws suck.. we got travis trailers with only 3 axles. 2 on the ground at all time and one tag on the trailer and also a tag on the truck.. we work for mathy paving alot.. we move their plants also.. i know its all useless info to u but thought id share.. great vid
@MrDriftspirit Well, the math works out this way. All axles on the trailer are 13,000 each gross. Drive axles on truck are 32,000 and heavy tired front axle has gross of 18,000. Total 154,000 or 77 tons. These and heavier rigs have been used in Michigan and parts of Canada for over 40 years. They can deliver products of 48 ton to 58 ton depending on how the axles are spread out. No special permits are needed. JS
@MrDriftspirit Tyre scrub is crazy when you see these trailers turning at an intersection... they paint the road black when fully laden.. quite a sight to see
There is similar sized box dumps in Vancouver, BC with half of the axles. The axle spacing and wierd tracking would have park that trailer. It is a very strange looking trailer. I understand Ontario has it's own DOT rules and they are wierd as well. Thanks for the feedabck.
More axles means you can carry heavier loads. This asphat trailer has max 13,000 per axle, 32,000 on drive axles and 18,000 on front axle. You can deliver from 48 to 60 tons depending on how the axles are spread out. JS
@MrDriftspirit on the dump truck it looks to me like the first 2 axles on the pup or trailer is on something similar to a fifth wheel plate. it seems to rotate.. if u look when they start dumping its separated. idk what axle weights are in michigan but iowa with our 4 axle trucks and a 3 axle trailer we can gross 94 to 96000 lbs on average its 31 tons..and if u have all ur axle weights right.. some ppl just load and go. and with asphalt u can get close but rarely end up perfect...
You lift two front and one rear axles on the trailer. Very early on they used pivot/steer axles, but gave that up. I think they were to expensive and to much maintenance. Yeah, it puts a strain on everthing including the drive axles on the tractor. I have heard of pulling the tires off the rims. But that is rare and Michigan and some Canadian regions have been using this setup for nearly 50 years. Check out, "Michigan and Canadian trucks". Good to hear from you. JS
This is crazy to me. I haul 15 ton with my tandem and the tractors haul 20ish. I hope they make far more an hour than we do to keep such specialized equipment. those setups would be useless for many things i do, even in road construction.
@johnsenkenn Yes, it is US tons. The states set the limits. The extra weight Michigan trucks can only travel in Michigan and some Canadian provinces. JS
It is quite a bit easier to turn then a 53' trailer because after you raise three axles on the turn, the trailer will pivot at remaining axles. The doubles set up will come close to following in its own tracks. JS
@AC160 None. You pickup three axles and drag the rest. Many years ago they did have some trailers that steered, but they got away from that. I think there was to much maintenance. Denmark, great country! JS
@billium2014 Tires and brakes will last twice as long or more then conventional setup of axles (5) used in most states. These trailers can deliver 48 to 60 tons (depending on position of axles) of product vs 28 for most states. Makes the truck driver more productive. Go to, "Michigan and Canadian trucks", for different setups. JS
The asphalt hauler rig should load 48 to 50 ton. The doubles and the truck shown at timelapse 3:10 should haul 50 to 52 ton. The larger ones (as show on, "Michigan and Canadian trucks") would be in the 60 ton net class. JS
If Western Canada wants to have smaller trucks, that is their business. In my video called, "Michigan and Canadian trucks", some of those trucks come from Canada. You should come to Michigan and watch these trucks in action and then form an opinion. Good to hear from you. JS
Google says: ojala hubiers este tipo de vehiculos en mi nacion -- to english is, I wish I had this vehicle in my nation. These trucks are allowed only in the state of Michigan of the USA and some areas of Canada. They can haul twice the load which means that there are half of the trucks on the road. We have been using them here for over 40 years, so it is a proven system. JS
@senyko toledo, oh allows 161k and the upper parts of wi close to the u.p. allows 154k for the loggers. and our weight laws are easy but confusing at the same. to make it easy 13k per axle
@Niercaaa Mmm! Lets think about that comment for a minute. You think that two trucks, two trailers, two drivers, more maintenance, more fuel, more paper work, using extra highway space, more chances for accidents, etc., is better for the enviroment than one truck, one driver. I don't think so. It's 42 tires, by the way! The tires and brakes last over twice as long as conventional trailers. JS
Bahaha, it looks like a lot of standing around but it's a real team effort and it's a once'r, you only get one chance at gettin it right or it's all over...
thanks for the video, only as an observation I was thinking the second rig with a seperate trailer as well as the truck would be a problem as Im guessing they would have some way of transferring the trucks load to the trailer without uncoupling the units? or do they have to uncouple the trailer and then tip the trucks load into the paver? Cheers
Well, lets study this commet. First, these axles rigs have been going on for nearly 50 years in Michigan and Ontario. Next the pressure on the pavemnet per axle is considerably less then most rigs. The Michigan and Canadian trucks are more productive per driver (nearly twice the load), less trucks on the road, less fuel being used, etc. JS
hey question for all you 'pro's' out there....what the reason for so many trailer tires? Less roll resistance? Less psi on ground? Easier to pull? Other? Thanks in advance!
the long red trailer is called a flowboy 4axles lift the front 3 and the last one leaving 4 axles on the ground easier to turn when going straight all are down when turning a corner they lift the axles and the second truck is called a train or doubles or short dbls which is what i drive a dump truck with a trailer they have drop axles also but only a couplei have 3 on my truck
+senyko Its unnerving to see 2x 50' centipede double trailers pass you on I-75 around Detroit, or on US 23 south of AA. I'm from Ohio so traveling to Michigan is not uncommon.
wow, that must be very interesting when the driver has to turn hard withot lifting his first 3 axles!. but even he had lifted it, the tire rub of must be enourmous! whats the total weight of this dump truck? usa, the endless possibillities!
G'day senyko That is one heavy hauler, being an Aussie I am used to our tri & quad road trains but nothing like the big red job. Curious about your comment raising 3 axles on the turn. Scuffing with a normal tri on a tight turn, can get pretty bad and cause a lot of road surface wear and on a hot day, even lift the surface. Which 3 axles do you lift and how much extra stress does that put on the chassis, as well as the wheels on the ground, and the road surface. Does it have pivot/steer axles?
Wow and I thought my tractor-trailer was big honestly I don't think I've ever heard of that many axles on a trailer mine has four but mine is a toy 1/16 scale
@Niercaaa i think you may need to learn about basic designs, hurps durps... how do you expect a truck with that much weight to move without lessening the friction between it and the road...ergo add wheels.
I've hauled as much as 23 ton on my tandem.....grossed out of the scales at 35000 kgs or about 77000 pounds. I only went a mile from the pit and I would NEVER haul that kind of weight on a 3 axle truck any farther than that.
There must be 20,000lbs worth of extra tires and axles on that truck. How does that benefit anything. You would be at max weight for some states empty. I'm telling you it's a conspiracy from those damn tire companies lol. But seriously your adding a crazy amount of weight in axles just to carry more weight. Silly.
MrSigDan Silly!. Lets look at the facts. What makes more sense, a truck that can deliver from 48 to 60 tons or a truck that delivers 30 to 35 tons! This creates less trucks on the road, less fuel burned, more productive truck drivers, etc. Some say they are hard on the roads. Michigan is not the best but we are a union and high tax state, however our roads are better then other high tax states such as Penn, NY, Conn, etc. Our pounds per axle are much less.
Michigan must have some ridiculous DOT laws for trucks. Why would you need that many axles on a trailer. I bet so they can charge more for tolls and registration. Most states require 2 or 3 axles on a trailer carrying that load. I bet the law only allows you to haul 80,000lbs even though you have enough axles to haul 2 truck loads. Tires must be a huge seller in Michigan.
7/8 axles in a row is not spreading the weight, it's damaging the the roads due to to enormous tyre scrub. Visit Australia or Europe and see how it should be done
Google translate: because they have so many wheels? if the loads are not as heavy trucks pull over here 40 tons with half of these wheels I don't know if your 40 ton is gross. The gross is around 80 ton with net at 50 ton. The theory is less weight on pavement per axle for many axles. JS
Paver op should learn how to run his machine. If you were on a drive lane you ride quality number would be junk if he stops the paver every time a truck backs in, which would equate to big fines from MDOT.
I don't get it ???? A flatbed with a spread-axle can destroy some tires but probably can't even complete with this guy! I wonder what they would charge for these trucks to cross the GW Bridge???? lol
I enjoy that sight of 11 axles and 42 tires every time I go see my grandpa. Good video. Shows what a real truck is.
The straight 8 axle trailer can haul 13000 per axle, plus 32000 on the drive axles and 18000 on the steering axle. That totals come to 154,000 pounds or 77 ton (gross). It's possible to haul 91 ton on doubles with the axles spread out in Michigan. Check out "Michigan and Canadian trucks".
JS
Pretty cool. I've seen roadwork done many, many times on the highways, but have NEVER seen a truck like that on doing any of the work. It's usually several smaller trucks. :o)
You be hard pressed to get that trailer stuck in a soft spot. No down time... good concept.
@comettoPL. Welcome from Michigan, USA. To turn, they pickup three axles and drag the rest around the corner. These trailers have been used in Michigan for over 40 years.
I love seeing all the extra axles in Michigan!!
@kennjohnsen Some of the neighboring states allows entrance for a few miles. Ohio allows them to enter Toledo because of the Jeep plant and others in the area. I believe that Ontario still allows entrance eventhough they are themselves limited to nine axles.JS
hey nice vid man ive watched this before in total awww....im here in central iowa and we do asphalt hauling we dont have trailers near this big cuz for one iowa laws suck.. we got travis trailers with only 3 axles. 2 on the ground at all time and one tag on the trailer and also a tag on the truck.. we work for mathy paving alot.. we move their plants also.. i know its all useless info to u but thought id share.. great vid
@MrDriftspirit Well, the math works out this way. All axles on the trailer are 13,000 each gross. Drive axles on truck are 32,000 and heavy tired front axle has gross of 18,000. Total 154,000 or 77 tons. These and heavier rigs have been used in Michigan and parts of Canada for over 40 years. They can deliver products of 48 ton to 58 ton depending on how the axles are spread out. No special permits are needed. JS
@cgj531 The second trailer has a dolly lock that prevents the dolly from turning. You can then back up the rig similiar to a semi-trailer.
@MrDriftspirit Tyre scrub is crazy when you see these trailers turning at an intersection... they paint the road black when fully laden.. quite a sight to see
Gotta love the Barber-Greene spreader!
There is similar sized box dumps in Vancouver, BC with half of the axles. The axle spacing and wierd tracking would have park that trailer. It is a very strange looking trailer. I understand Ontario has it's own DOT rules and they are wierd as well. Thanks for the feedabck.
first time i have seen such a trailer the big red one humm interessthing set up
More axles means you can carry heavier loads. This asphat trailer has max 13,000 per axle, 32,000 on drive axles and 18,000 on front axle. You can deliver from 48 to 60 tons depending on how the axles are spread out. JS
@MrDriftspirit on the dump truck it looks to me like the first 2 axles on the pup or trailer is on something similar to a fifth wheel plate. it seems to rotate.. if u look when they start dumping its separated. idk what axle weights are in michigan but iowa with our 4 axle trucks and a 3 axle trailer we can gross 94 to 96000 lbs on average its 31 tons..and if u have all ur axle weights right.. some ppl just load and go. and with asphalt u can get close but rarely end up perfect...
You lift two front and one rear axles on the trailer. Very early on they used pivot/steer axles, but gave that up. I think they were to expensive and to much maintenance. Yeah, it puts a strain on everthing including the drive axles on the tractor. I have heard of pulling the tires off the rims. But that is rare and Michigan and some Canadian regions have been using this setup for nearly 50 years. Check out, "Michigan and Canadian trucks". Good to hear from you. JS
thank you Senko! And to think why other states are so strict.
@senyko Also the Roads last longer because of better weight distribution. Those trucks coming and going from sites don't tear up the roads.
Barber-Greene BG225B Paver. Thanks for posting
This is crazy to me. I haul 15 ton with my tandem and the tractors haul 20ish. I hope they make far more an hour than we do to keep such specialized equipment. those setups would be useless for many things i do, even in road construction.
Loads like these are why the roads are made of CONCRETE and the shoulders are asphalt. Concrete can handle the loads.
@johnsenkenn Yes, it is US tons. The states set the limits. The extra weight Michigan trucks can only travel in Michigan and some Canadian provinces. JS
It is quite a bit easier to turn then a 53' trailer because after you raise three axles on the turn, the trailer will pivot at remaining axles. The doubles set up will come close to following in its own tracks. JS
@AC160 None. You pickup three axles and drag the rest. Many years ago they did have some trailers that steered, but they got away from that. I think there was to much maintenance. Denmark, great country! JS
@billium2014 Tires and brakes will last twice as long or more then conventional setup of axles (5) used in most states. These trailers can deliver 48 to 60 tons (depending on position of axles) of product vs 28 for most states. Makes the truck driver more productive. Go to, "Michigan and Canadian trucks", for different setups. JS
The asphalt hauler rig should load 48 to 50 ton. The doubles and the truck shown at timelapse 3:10 should haul 50 to 52 ton. The larger ones (as show on, "Michigan and Canadian trucks")
would be in the 60 ton net class.
JS
@Niercaaa Actually it is 42 tires on the ground.
اعجاب في هذا الشاحنة الجميلة جدا ،،،، ارجوك ان تنشر المزيد من الشاحنات من هذا النوع الشاحنة حمرة
That is super cool.
Yes, and remember it has been going on for 60 years in Michigan
If Western Canada wants to have smaller trucks, that is their business. In my video called, "Michigan and Canadian trucks", some of those trucks come from Canada. You should come to Michigan and watch these trucks in action and then form an opinion. Good to hear from you. JS
At .033 of the video timeline is a picture of a MDOT pickup. You are correct on how it should be done in the drive lane. Thanks for your comment.
JS
Google says: ojala hubiers este tipo de vehiculos en mi nacion -- to english is, I wish I had this vehicle in my nation.
These trucks are allowed only in the state of Michigan of the USA and some areas of Canada. They can haul twice the load which means that there are half of the trucks on the road. We have been using them here for over 40 years, so it is a proven system. JS
@senyko toledo, oh allows 161k and the upper parts of wi close to the u.p. allows 154k for the loggers. and our weight laws are easy but confusing at the same. to make it easy 13k per axle
I feel like for safety sake that trailor dump should maybe have one more set of axils. Just in case
@Niercaaa Mmm! Lets think about that comment for a minute. You think that two trucks, two trailers, two drivers, more maintenance, more fuel, more paper work, using extra highway space, more chances for accidents, etc., is better for the enviroment than one truck, one driver. I don't think so. It's 42 tires, by the way! The tires and brakes last over twice as long as conventional trailers. JS
Other countries you can go 63,500KG on 8 axles, 2 trailers.
1 steering, 2 drivers, 3 bridge, 2 pup.
Bahaha, it looks like a lot of standing around but it's a real team effort and it's a once'r, you only get one chance at gettin it right or it's all over...
thanks for the video, only as an observation I was thinking the second rig with a seperate trailer as well as the truck would be a problem as Im guessing they would have some way of transferring the trucks load to the trailer without uncoupling the units? or do they have to uncouple the trailer and then tip the trucks load into the paver? Cheers
You can deliver 48 tons. Total gross is 13,000 for each axle except drive axles are 32,000 and front axle is 18,000. JS
So how much mix does that trailer hold then?? With all those axles, I would imagine quite a few tons...!!! LOL
@Niercaaa Your welcome! Don't worry about such comments. Only listen to
those that try to explain their position.
@TheBooboo7112
I believe that it is a conveyor belt.
JS
haha imagine how hard that would be to turn around with
@miasphaltpaving Im not the owner of this vid but that is hot mix. You don't pave with cold mix.
WOW!!!
I am lucky to even haul 27 tons of asphalt on my truck.
BTW how do they dump the second trailer in the paver? disconnect it, or tailgate it?
Well, lets study this commet. First, these axles rigs have been going on for nearly 50 years in Michigan and Ontario. Next the pressure on the pavemnet per axle is considerably less then most rigs. The Michigan and Canadian trucks are more productive per driver (nearly twice the load), less trucks on the road, less fuel being used, etc. JS
I have ordered sand and gravel from the doubles shown in picture and they will deliver 50 plus ton and the larger ones will deliver 60 ton.
JS
hey question for all you 'pro's' out there....what the reason for so many trailer tires? Less roll resistance? Less psi on ground? Easier to pull? Other? Thanks in advance!
@schizamknasty That pickup is MDOT! JS
@miasphaltpaving
I have not driven an asphalt truck myself, but the doubles should deliver 50 ton of asphalt. JS
@Niercaaa thanks? i think... well.. arguing is pointless.. so i guess we have no need to carry on any further.
have a good day.
the long red trailer is called a flowboy 4axles lift the front 3 and the last one leaving 4 axles on the ground easier to turn when going straight all are down when turning a corner they lift the axles and the second truck is called a train or doubles or short dbls which is what i drive a dump truck with a trailer they have drop axles also but only a couplei have 3 on my truck
+Ryan Mossner I refer to them as Michigan centipedes.
+epistte Well said. JS
+senyko Its unnerving to see 2x 50' centipede double trailers pass you on I-75 around Detroit, or on US 23 south of AA. I'm from Ohio so traveling to Michigan is not uncommon.
Cool technology!
I wanted to see the move it took to dump the truck hooked to the trailer.
i lay asphalt now its fun and its not 2 much hard work and the pay is great only thing is wen the weathers bad no work which ia why im home now lol
wow, that must be very interesting when the driver has to turn hard withot lifting his first 3 axles!. but even he had lifted it, the tire rub of must be enourmous!
whats the total weight of this dump truck?
usa, the endless possibillities!
I almost thought that was a vogel paver in the distance.
G'day senyko
That is one heavy hauler, being an Aussie I am used to our tri & quad road trains but nothing like the big red job. Curious about your comment raising 3 axles on the turn. Scuffing with a normal tri on a tight turn, can get pretty bad and cause a lot of road surface wear and on a hot day, even lift the surface. Which 3 axles do you lift and how much extra stress does that put on the chassis, as well as the wheels on the ground, and the road surface. Does it have pivot/steer axles?
Wow and I thought my tractor-trailer was big honestly I don't think I've ever heard of that many axles on a trailer mine has four but mine is a toy 1/16 scale
These rigs have been around Michigan and Ontario Canada for 50 years. In fact in the sixties 13 axles were allowed. They cut back to 11 axles. JS
Still can't see how it turns with out massing up the road.
8 axles?! Damn, over here, trucks can only carry a good 40 Ton of material. No matter how many axles the trailer's got...
woo hoo 42 tires on a rig! and these people are right if it didnt have so many tires it would just tear up everything it drives on.
@Niercaaa i think you may need to learn about basic designs, hurps durps... how do you expect a truck with that much weight to move without lessening the friction between it and the road...ergo add wheels.
Steel track paver now that's old school to funny Lois Kay it's 2009 catch up.
@Niercaaa Google Bridge formula . If you can figuer that out then you will see why so many wheels .
I've hauled as much as 23 ton on my tandem.....grossed out of the scales at 35000 kgs or about 77000 pounds. I only went a mile from the pit and I would NEVER haul that kind of weight on a 3 axle truck any farther than that.
@ph4ntomlord
48 to 50 ton of material. Doubles will hold more.
JS
schl0tte,
Well they have been used here for more then forty years, so we know that they work. Makes the trucker more productive.
JS
snowxracer,
Yes, and then get back in line. It actually is a good system.
JS
You will see most of these rigs in Michigan and Canada.
JS
how many ton does that truck carry, dam!
wow they must have strickt weight limits
@senyko thanks for putting me right. I don't understand these stupid comments bellow my post..!
@jonjoy1999 I don't know. I have not dealt with that trailer myself. Maybe someone else can answer that.
That truck if fully loaded will carry about 48 tons
so steering one the trailer axles is not so common?,
There must be 20,000lbs worth of extra tires and axles on that truck. How does that benefit anything. You would be at max weight for some states empty. I'm telling you it's a conspiracy from those damn tire companies lol. But seriously your adding a crazy amount of weight in axles just to carry more weight. Silly.
MrSigDan Silly!. Lets look at the facts. What makes more sense, a truck that can deliver from 48 to 60 tons or a truck that delivers 30 to 35 tons! This creates less trucks on the road, less fuel burned, more productive truck drivers, etc. Some say they are hard on the roads. Michigan is not the best but we are a union and high tax state, however our roads are better then other high tax states such as Penn, NY, Conn, etc. Our pounds per axle are much less.
@@senyko are you running trucks like that cause of the bridge laws?
Michigan must have some ridiculous DOT laws for trucks. Why would you need that many axles on a trailer. I bet so they can charge more for tolls and registration. Most states require 2 or 3 axles on a trailer carrying that load. I bet the law only allows you to haul 80,000lbs even though you have enough axles to haul 2 truck loads. Tires must be a huge seller in Michigan.
+MrSigDan The reason for more axles is you can haul more and spread the weight. Michigan trucks haul about twice as much as other states. JS
+senyko and brakes x_x
7/8 axles in a row is not spreading the weight, it's damaging the the roads due to to enormous tyre scrub. Visit Australia or Europe and see how it should be done
what part of the U.S. is this?? We dont use dump trucks like that, here in New England !!
Google translate: because they have so many wheels? if the loads are not as heavy trucks pull over here 40 tons with half of these wheels
I don't know if your 40 ton is gross. The gross is around 80 ton with net at 50 ton. The theory is less weight on pavement per axle for many axles. JS
Thanks, JS
@TheFireman203 Is 75 tons considered strict?
How many of this rear-aksel are steered??
Thanks deserthook
JS
Are they repairing the asphalt due to excessive tyre scrum from their own axle, he asks knowingly
That tearing up asphalt is a worn out argument. Go to "Michigan road trains" and see a U turn on asphalt that is 20 years old.
Woow it's awesome
Thanks, kiatruck
JS
How long have you been doing Asphalt now lostcity1?
It does look that way! JS
that can not be easy to turn with its bad enough trying to drive a 53' trailer through the street of boston can only imagine what this is like
Paver op should learn how to run his machine. If you were on a drive lane you ride quality number would be junk if he stops the paver every time a truck backs in, which would equate to big fines from MDOT.
the owner has to show his overhead because he is making a million dollars off this project so he added some wheels
How he could turn? This red one...
@hcr403 Thanks for the info. JS
@Cirbonukleon Thanks, JS
@Niercaaa its not our fault the brits have shitty roads, =) figured i would add insult to injury.
I don't get it ???? A flatbed with a spread-axle can destroy some tires but probably can't even complete with this guy!
I wonder what they would charge for these trucks to cross the
GW Bridge???? lol
It's been going on for 60 years so it is proven!
@cgj531 You raise three axles and drag the rest. JS
No steering axles on the trailers. JS