Used to work at a subsea robotics company and this is the exact mechanism that was used to spool and unspool our 5000m long tethers to the robots out at sea. Cool to see it in miniature form!
Working in a woollen mill with stuff like this on a daily basis, it’s both funny and fascinating to see this tech, which is in machinery over 70 years old, manufactured by one man and 3D printer into a fully functioning machine. Great work and keep it up.
It’s standart practic in rewinder lol, and he use it wrong, need increase step size to got nice rewind, and if you check the machines thread going self on that roller
THANK YOU!!!!!! I've seriously been trying to design this exact machine for the last two years. I buy big spools of threads like Dacron for working with industrial and upholstery fabrics but I only have a small sewing machine which doesn't accept them and adaptors don't work well. This will save me a so much work!
Ah! I think I saw a reversing screw like that in 507 Mechanical Movements! Clever solution to making a spool roughly even without a controlled/limited extra axis. For more complex/precise winding tasks, an electronic axis might still be needed to make everything even, but this mechanical one does 'good enough' for just spooling things on a reel roughly evenly without all that hassle and complexity!
3 seconds in, you've already got my thumbs up. Fantastic intro video. It shows nearly everything I want to know. The rest is gravy. Nice job letting the video do the talking.
The rotation is not proportional to winding, maybe if you can make sensor for bobin and add thread thickness input value to adjust speed proportion between winding and thread bobin it would make thread stack evenly
That would be cool. Even cooler would be a roll on the backside of the roll that has just the right amount of translation to autoadjust itself correctly without any need of input ever. Just imagine perfectly rolled, no matter what thickness your thread has.
@@GamesPlayer1337 it's called surface speed in cnc, the larger diameter the higher the surface speed, and the cnc machine adjust for that, its easy to make this using to stepper motor instead of DC motors, and make it adjust everything in the code.
That thing looks just like my dad's fishing reel. My dad has been gone for nearly 75 years, so you can figure that out. Yeah, dad's fishing reel was a lot smaller and largely stainless steel or brass, but the mechanism is the same.
This is so much better than mine. Mine used threaded rod and a belt for one direction, move a little thing over, then throw drill in reverse and a gear to come back. It was good for all hardware store materials but this is better in just about every way
Leesona winding machines worked this way and had a weird mechanical glitch that caused them to wind guitar pickups in just the right way, making them more valuable than modern servo-controlled winders. I learned this when I toured some coil winding factories for a work project.
Brilliant. Thanks so much for sharing this. I've been struggling with hand winding some small magnet coils, got a good few to do so definitely giving this a go.
Used in yarn process. Known in the industry as a cam, dog/skid and guide. We process at about 600 meters a minute per end. Superba heatset equipment and winders.
For the second rectangle you could have projected the geometry of the face (even though I see no plane, maybe it's a 3D sketch, in this case it's ok like this), for the center extrusion I would not have bothered with specifying the length : an all through, or to next face would have worked like a charm. Besides those nitpicks about Inventor, that's a really clever design !!
good design, you must add different sizes of screw for different size bobbin. Also shaft sizes and types is not clear in your 3d project page. But design very good, thanks!
We have sewing machine Singer that has a thread barrel below the needle. When you need to refill the barrel, no need such mechanism to winding the thread. The thickness of winded thread it self that drives back and forward.
use two servo motors, replace the cam with an all thread rod with a very fine thread pitch, hook up an stm32, esp32, or arduino and a 595 shift register to some gate driver ic's, with dat now you can drive some mosfets and igbt and use high current 24v motors and now have a cheep winding lathe, prefect for winding tesla coils, although with a tesla coil your coil length is has to be shorter than your all threaded rod, since you only wind a single layer.... with servos you can precisely control wind speed, feed speed, coil spacing, winding and feed torque, so if you got the right motor you can wind as low 8awg to 50awg, just change dem torque and rpm specs depending what coil u bout to wind
5:55 - Is is real? Do I really see somebody who put things like an Arduino on a socket, and _did not directly solder it on???_ You, sir, are a hero! Because this is how you are supposed to do things. Also, I learned that such a thing as a self-reversing screw exists. Is this what is also used for industrial applications? I can imagine those crossed threads must have a lot of wear when the screw is spun too quickly.
Such screws have been used in industry for nearly two centuries (though typically made from metal). If you want to see one in another application search for Yankee Screwdriver. They were a very common tool in use before electric screwdrivers were commonly available.
The winding spool could be simplified by simply using a low-torque motor or a slip-clutch on the shaft instead of toothed belt. Would eliminate the need for a PCB driving the second motor.
Interesting mechanism, although Integration-wise, it'd probably be better to have two motors. Reverse and adapt different yarn-widths in software then without having to need to change mechanical parts.
The cross section of the "yarn" dictates the jibe speed and would normally be handled mechanically. The "yarn" would be pulling the guide along and slightly behind it.
If I remember, what was called a rabbit. When ploughing using traction engines at the edge of a long field would have a mechanism for the steel ropes towing the plough across the field and not bunch up the steel on the bobbin.
When you design a pcb you make it thinking in the future, and most his projects involve stepper motors, that's why it has arduino nano and 2 A9488 drivers. In this projects he just needed the DC motors.
I had an early Epson dot matrix printer that used such a mechanism to drive the print head back and forth across the page, once for each line of text, even if only one character was printed. I can't remember what advanced the paper, perhaps it was a pre-stepper motor design.
@@MrInnovative You know, the slight imperfections in the spooling seem to make it the perfect threader for guitar pickups. You should call the guitar pickup manufacturers and use the phrase "as close to human winding as can possibly be emulated, while speeding up the production process AND cutting costs for human winders" !
Used to work at a subsea robotics company and this is the exact mechanism that was used to spool and unspool our 5000m long tethers to the robots out at sea. Cool to see it in miniature form!
Working in a woollen mill with stuff like this on a daily basis, it’s both funny and fascinating to see this tech, which is in machinery over 70 years old, manufactured by one man and 3D printer into a fully functioning machine. Great work and keep it up.
The self reversing screw is genius - nice project
It’s standart practic in rewinder lol, and he use it wrong, need increase step size to got nice rewind, and if you check the machines thread going self on that roller
The self reversing screw is same thing if seen on some fishing reels.
THANK YOU!!!!!! I've seriously been trying to design this exact machine for the last two years. I buy big spools of threads like Dacron for working with industrial and upholstery fabrics but I only have a small sewing machine which doesn't accept them and adaptors don't work well. This will save me a so much work!
You do realize that fishing reels used this exact mechanism nearly a century ago?
@@jeromebullard6123 yes, but have you ever tried to buy one to make a winder to offload thread from a 3# maxi spool to a standard 200-500yd spool?
@@gryyphyn8639 lol I have not.
Ah! I think I saw a reversing screw like that in 507 Mechanical Movements! Clever solution to making a spool roughly even without a controlled/limited extra axis. For more complex/precise winding tasks, an electronic axis might still be needed to make everything even, but this mechanical one does 'good enough' for just spooling things on a reel roughly evenly without all that hassle and complexity!
3 seconds in, you've already got my thumbs up. Fantastic intro video. It shows nearly everything I want to know. The rest is gravy. Nice job letting the video do the talking.
The rotation is not proportional to winding, maybe if you can make sensor for bobin and add thread thickness input value to adjust speed proportion between winding and thread bobin it would make thread stack evenly
That would be cool. Even cooler would be a roll on the backside of the roll that has just the right amount of translation to autoadjust itself correctly without any need of input ever. Just imagine perfectly rolled, no matter what thickness your thread has.
@@GamesPlayer1337 it's called surface speed in cnc, the larger diameter the higher the surface speed, and the cnc machine adjust for that, its easy to make this using to stepper motor instead of DC motors, and make it adjust everything in the code.
As another brought note, upgrade the DC motors to steppers and you can on the fly configure it to wind any just about anything on any width of spool.
I would use a tiny microprocessor and a Hall effect sensor to control both. The code would be interesting.
@Tsma can you link me to a video or a article on how this is done
That thing looks just like my dad's fishing reel. My dad has been gone for nearly 75 years, so you can figure that out.
Yeah, dad's fishing reel was a lot smaller and largely stainless steel or brass, but the mechanism is the same.
These have been used in fishing reels for a long time....and tiny if you think about the size of a reel with all the parts inside.
Right. Thinking he just over complicated a baitcaster
Yeah, I immediately said to myself "he just made a levelwind from a fishing reel".
This is so much better than mine. Mine used threaded rod and a belt for one direction, move a little thing over, then throw drill in reverse and a gear to come back. It was good for all hardware store materials but this is better in just about every way
Leesona winding machines worked this way and had a weird mechanical glitch that caused them to wind guitar pickups in just the right way, making them more valuable than modern servo-controlled winders. I learned this when I toured some coil winding factories for a work project.
Your designs are so clean, functional and beautiful! It's a pleasure to watch your videos and learn some things.
Brilliant. Thanks so much for sharing this. I've been struggling with hand winding some small magnet coils, got a good few to do so definitely giving this a go.
Thank you for taking the time to made this in cad and giving us something to think about 😊
That oscillating screw mechanism is so clever
Used in yarn process. Known in the industry as a cam, dog/skid and guide. We process at about 600 meters a minute per end. Superba heatset equipment and winders.
For the second rectangle you could have projected the geometry of the face (even though I see no plane, maybe it's a 3D sketch, in this case it's ok like this), for the center extrusion I would not have bothered with specifying the length : an all through, or to next face would have worked like a charm.
Besides those nitpicks about Inventor, that's a really clever design !!
I wasn't looking for it, but I needed it and the algorithm knew 😂
So wonderful. Brilliant as always. 💖
This is great! I never want to hear the filament companies cant evenly spool their filament ever again!!!
A very interesting machine, with a few modifications, it could be used for winding coils for electronic circuits. Thank you for this inspiration.
What software do you use for 3d modelling?
This design is from a ‘level wind’ fishing reel that was introduced in 1860 and still used today
Not shown: The perfectly spooled thread that this is being tested with xD
But seriously, awesome job!
Looks just like the level wind gear on a moden baitcast reel.
❤ love this we’ll done good to see things from the past produced with tech from the future 🎉
good design, you must add different sizes of screw for different size bobbin. Also shaft sizes and types is not clear in your 3d project page. But design very good, thanks!
Thank you, you are a genius!
man that is SO COOL thank you for sharing!! I'll be trying to make something like this for a 3d printing filament machine
Hey bro, you come up with a variety of interesting stuff.
That's what they use in looms!
Thanks for the video!
Very good. Though I would think you'd want to use one motor and gearing to assure winding uniformity. This is exactly what I was looking for.
Like a bait casting reel.
Cam slider. The same is used in inking system for offset printer.
Amazing design. I would hire you as an engineer!
We have sewing machine Singer that has a thread barrel below the needle. When you need to refill the barrel, no need such mechanism to winding the thread. The thickness of winded thread it self that drives back and forward.
use two servo motors, replace the cam with an all thread rod with a very fine thread pitch, hook up an stm32, esp32, or arduino and a 595 shift register to some gate driver ic's, with dat now you can drive some mosfets and igbt and use high current 24v motors and now have a cheep winding lathe, prefect for winding tesla coils, although with a tesla coil your coil length is has to be shorter than your all threaded rod, since you only wind a single layer.... with servos you can precisely control wind speed, feed speed, coil spacing, winding and feed torque, so if you got the right motor you can wind as low 8awg to 50awg, just change dem torque and rpm specs depending what coil u bout to wind
5:55 - Is is real? Do I really see somebody who put things like an Arduino on a socket, and _did not directly solder it on???_ You, sir, are a hero! Because this is how you are supposed to do things. Also, I learned that such a thing as a self-reversing screw exists. Is this what is also used for industrial applications? I can imagine those crossed threads must have a lot of wear when the screw is spun too quickly.
Such screws have been used in industry for nearly two centuries (though typically made from metal). If you want to see one in another application search for Yankee Screwdriver. They were a very common tool in use before electric screwdrivers were commonly available.
The winding spool could be simplified by simply using a low-torque motor or a slip-clutch on the shaft instead of toothed belt. Would eliminate the need for a PCB driving the second motor.
Make the hole smaller for the thread to pass thru for a neater wind. There is too much backlash on reverse.
yes you are right
Wow I want this for my kumihimo bobbin!❤
this is dope. nice job friend 🤙🏻
Great! Now let’s think about getting the filled spool off the machine shall we?
Interesting mechanism, although Integration-wise, it'd probably be better to have two motors. Reverse and adapt different yarn-widths in software then without having to need to change mechanical parts.
The cross section of the "yarn" dictates the jibe speed and would normally be handled mechanically. The "yarn" would be pulling the guide along and slightly behind it.
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I've always wondered how this worked with fishing reels. Now I know.
Very creative channel❤❤ , good luck
Interesting - any ratio changes required if the take-up spool was a cone instead of a tube?
If I remember, what was called a rabbit. When ploughing using traction engines at the edge of a long field would have a mechanism for the steel ropes towing the plough across the field and not bunch up the steel on the bobbin.
Amazing videos tutorial. Thank U for sharing technology, to be continue the next videos.
Excellent! Keep moving!
Many fishing reels are made like this.
No ano de 1992 eu tentei fazer uma coisa bem parecida, porém não deu certo.Parabéns!!
Finally! I can get rid of all this string!
Good ole’ redesign of a level wind fishing reel. So innovative. /s
good use of inventor to make the corkscrew from3D printer!
Why so much eletronics for such a simple machine?
When you design a pcb you make it thinking in the future, and most his projects involve stepper motors, that's why it has arduino nano and 2 A9488 drivers. In this projects he just needed the DC motors.
exactly
My question exactly WHY .
You can use one motor. In this case it would be synchronous and you could tune density by ratio of gears between pulley and screw.
This has so much potential
do go on...........................................
I had an early Epson dot matrix printer that used such a mechanism to drive the print head back and forth across the page, once for each line of text, even if only one character was printed. I can't remember what advanced the paper, perhaps it was a pre-stepper motor design.
It was a stepper. They have been around a long time.
I feel like this is insanely loud for no apparent reason. What kind of motor / gearing are you using?
Isn’t this used on Bait Casting fishing reels?
Genius and excellent work✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💪💪💪💪
Cool, but how do you remove the spool after full?
try torched pipe surface graphite bearing (two pipes in each other, contact surfaces torched to soot graphite lubrication)
nice
改めてこうやって見ると糸巻く仕組みって難しいな…
糸の幅と横方向への移動速度制御
これとは別に往復することで糸自体の厚みで、軸半径が増えて糸の巻進行速度が変わることに対し減速させないといけない。
ピストン運動速度と、巻き速度の調整がすごいなと
とりあえず一回こっきりならボリュームのつまみみたいなのでモーター速度変えればいいのかもしれないけどw
You imitated the leveler on a Penn 301. Now try the Penn 350 worm.
That's badass 😮 I need make one for winding coils add a calculator to count the length
Good work I like it 3D print .👍🏻
great design!
This drum in the first minute of video is enough for the yarn to go through. YOU DONT NEED ADITIONAL TOP PART. just put yarn through the drum. 🙂
This program looks nice, similar to fusion but different, what did you use?
I am currently building a cnc plotter so could you suggest how much power to actually supply to cnc shield?
I had to make something similar for winding, but this is much better. 👌
Where can I get those bearings?
Please answer 🙏
Excellent as usual. Thanks for the video
Your design has fixed width of the winding. How to vary & control the width of the winding?
Reminds me of a level wind fishing reel
Great. Congratulations
Where did you get the rods?
Can I buy this one
There are three things you can watch forever: fire burning, water falling, and reversing screw hypnotizing
Brilliant as always🎉
Genius design! :D
In the 1950s, my father had a fishing reel with one of those.
Genius! I am in ave! 👏
Best idea thanks for you
Hello my friend,
Do you have any ideas to convert a color laser printer to a contentious printer roll to roll
what design software was used in designing the model
Congrats, you made a fishing reel
Well done! O
I'm wondering what the gear on the end of the spiral is for?
its to stop rod to slip out of clamp
@@MrInnovative
You know, the slight imperfections in the spooling seem to make it the perfect threader for guitar pickups.
You should call the guitar pickup manufacturers and use the phrase
"as close to human winding as can possibly be emulated, while speeding up the production process AND cutting costs for human winders" !
What software do you use for model creation?
Thats exactly how a level wind fishing reel works inside.
Which 3D printer is best according to you..
This is a simple worm gear from a bait caster fishing reel. This technology has been out for 50 years
Have you made a filament machine to go with this yet?
Great idea, thanks to share.
I had an old thermal printer with a thread like that on it, to move the print head back and forth.
Did you use PLA or something else?
PLA
Você vendi este tipo de máquina para o Brasil
Estou esperando a resposta
Wow.....
Kindly make an arduino based smartglass pls : fan of you