What if Gandalf Took the One Ring? Theory (Updated)

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  • @yourstruly4817
    @yourstruly4817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    "Don't tempt me, Frodo!"

    • @morgulstower5839
      @morgulstower5839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I dare not take it.

    • @cyruspowers7355
      @cyruspowers7355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *In an alternate universe*
      "However, that ring is quite magnificent now that I can properly gaze upon it.."

  • @whtbobwntsbobget
    @whtbobwntsbobget 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    "Gandalf and his advisor Sauron" damn that was painful to hear.

  • @oxfordeducatedhighschoolhe6989
    @oxfordeducatedhighschoolhe6989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    "Take it Gandalf, im giving it to you"
    "Thank you Frodo"

  • @EdricLysharae
    @EdricLysharae 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    "The most insidious Evil is the Evil that can convince you that it is The Greater Good."
    This was a fantastic remake!

  • @NerdoftheRings
    @NerdoftheRings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Bonus MoW vid! Niiiice!

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Thanks Matt, cheers on your Gandalf Theory from last month! Here is the link for anyone who is interested!:
      th-cam.com/video/U_gFEN-GhiQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @shadowofchaos8932
      @shadowofchaos8932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My head just popped. It's not Sunday!

    • @deadend1041
      @deadend1041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MenoftheWest very interested, thank you.

    • @howardhavardramberg333
      @howardhavardramberg333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This one is really good!

  • @DavidWesley
    @DavidWesley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Great job with this what-if. Definitely more fleshed-out.

  • @Mattathais
    @Mattathais 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    One of the best “What ifs” out there. Definitely gonna listen again on the way home.

  • @sagebias2251
    @sagebias2251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Excelent video. My thoughts
    1) Gandalf eventually would be tricked by Sauron into giving the ring to Sauron. They would become of one mind, and Sauron would be better able to use the ring to accomplish their collective aims.
    2) Illuvitar would not let this happen. He revived Gandalf to defeat Sauron. Somehow he would prevent this.
    3) Even Gandalf could not conquer Tom Bombadil.

    • @BJETNT
      @BJETNT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If there was one person on Middle Earth that could resist the effects of the Ring I think it was gandalf. Out of all the creatures on Middle Earth he did the most good out of all of them. I don't think it would be that easy for sauron to overtake him. There was no will on Middle Earth more able to create good and see what was going on then Gandalf. Why is sauron always the greatest will in the Middle Earth? Gandalf is of the same level is him. If anybody could have used it for good it was him. And no I don't count Tom bombadil

    • @1mol831
      @1mol831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BJETNT what if the brown wizard gets the ring?

    • @andrewg.carvill4596
      @andrewg.carvill4596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BJETNT In the book, the chapter 'the Shadow of the Past', Gandalf explains to Frodo that this is not true, and implies that to believe this would be Gandalf's greatest temptation and Sauron's greatest lie. In some ways the whole epic is about the temptation of will-to-power, that is will-to-order-all things, which corrupts by making the one who succumbs to it become diabolic, the destroyer of all freedoms bar his own.

  • @WestCoastEnclave
    @WestCoastEnclave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Saruman:"Do you know what the Dwarfs awoke in the darkness of Khazad-Dum? Shadow...and flames."
    Gandalf:"I am the shadow...and I am the flames."

    • @janpavel1107
      @janpavel1107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I am the one who knocks! Oops..sorry, wrong franchise!

  • @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677
    @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Here's a What If idea: What If Smaug killed Bilbo and took the ring for himself. It's corrupting effect would possibly make him want more than the treasure under the mountain. He'll want all of middle earth to bow to him and offer him great tributes in return for their lives spared from his enhanced flames.

    • @Starman256
      @Starman256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      interesting idea, but how would he even wear it?

    • @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677
      @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Given the ring shrunk to fit Isildur when he got a hold of it it's possible for the ring to grow large enough to fit Smaug's claws

    • @kenroyjustin
      @kenroyjustin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😰😱😰

    • @Starman256
      @Starman256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 good point

    • @whtbobwntsbobget
      @whtbobwntsbobget 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Would it even have worked on dragons? What about eagles then?

  • @blake714
    @blake714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The theory hurts. my heart felt heavy. I understand the "what if..?" but to see Gandalf in such a way...I have no words for it

    • @MrWill7980
      @MrWill7980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here. When I realized the moment that Gandalf is keeping the Ring, I almost felt sick to my stomach! And at the White Council when they suggested Gandalf put on the Ring, I was mentally screaming "Burn it! Throw it in a fire and the markings reappear!" But, the Ring corrupts....

  • @adarkwind4712
    @adarkwind4712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    The council wanted to see if it was the one so they asked the most pure hearted among them to do so. Is it not ironic that those who are supremely wise often fall not to their enemies armies or arrows. But to their own arrogance they thought themselves wise band strong and in so doing doomed all.

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Exactly, those are my thoughts as well!

  • @paulwagner688
    @paulwagner688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "For the Ring corrupts absolutely". In all the legendarium, this is the most true. As Gandalf said in "The Shadow of the Past", no matter what the nature of the bearer, sooner or later the Ring would consume them utterly. If Manwe Himself were to put on the Ring, he would be transformed into something far worse than Melkor. We must trust in Iluvatar and know that ALL things redound to His Glory.

    • @tominiowa2513
      @tominiowa2513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The One Ring would not consume Bombadil, since he is a sui generis creation of Eru Ilúvatar immune to its effects.

    • @paulwagner688
      @paulwagner688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@tominiowa2513 "Say not that he has power over the Ring. Rather, the Ring has no power over him"--Gandalf, to paraphrase

  • @puzzlingcentaur
    @puzzlingcentaur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't get enough of this. Each of your theories/alternate universes are amazing.

  • @n00n87
    @n00n87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Really happy to see this remade! This has long been my favourite theory of yours, and I always appreciated the realism and sticking to a possible, inevitable, outcome of one of the ainur taking the one ring.

  • @glorfification
    @glorfification 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "Let me explain, Frodo. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too."

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Alright, Gandalf. I'll give you the Ring, and in return, you can give me a rock."

    • @tylersoto7465
      @tylersoto7465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gandalf: frodo heres a guitar now your a ROCKSTAR LMAO 😂

    • @randysavage1
      @randysavage1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      " power TENDS to corrupt"

    • @elias_xp95
      @elias_xp95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randysavage1 Power always corrupts. Even if the corruption is something trival.

  • @Strifegar
    @Strifegar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dang man, awesome work. Seriously, you've outdone yourself. I read the title and everything and I was still sitting here saying to myself "That's not how it happened, right?" Haha. It gets no better than Men of the West!!

  • @emmonstrex65
    @emmonstrex65 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree- this revamped theory is more spot on. Amazing talent, thx for posting!💯

  • @georgipopov8973
    @georgipopov8973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please do a "What if Gollum had remained faithful to Frodo" video. Great work!

  • @johnrandolph1989
    @johnrandolph1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Then Sarumon the White would've transformed into Sarumon the Yellow if you catch my meaning.😝🍋

    • @theMightywooosh
      @theMightywooosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Saruman the brown pants

    • @josephstalin4143
      @josephstalin4143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sarumaun the brown

    • @Idunno-b8g
      @Idunno-b8g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ............ He would have gotten a new tailor and went with a yellow theme?

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wouldn't it be Saruman the Green? (with envy)

    • @tylersoto7465
      @tylersoto7465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LMAO

  • @mrwalronda
    @mrwalronda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great updated video Yoystan! And also an amazing surprise in the middle of the week!

  • @AC-zn1ty
    @AC-zn1ty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy your musings. There are many lessons to be learned in the LOTR, that is why it remains in my heart and heard back collection for all these years. When I need some encouragement it is always good to review. Keep up the great work! Camber here.

  • @CantGetEnoughBach
    @CantGetEnoughBach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done! As Tolkien himself illustrated so well, the familiar adage "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely," still, without exception, applies to all created beings. May all take heed, like Cirdan, and avoid the deadly perils of pride and lust for power. Such may be done only in cooperation with Iluvatar. The sacred beauty of free-will depends entirely on the Designer's plan from Creation until the final Return of the King.

  • @NateAdamsMadeofAdams
    @NateAdamsMadeofAdams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Now I want a video on what happens if I got the One Ring

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dude... if Nate Adams got the One Ring.. RIP Middle-earth, it doesn’t stand a chance.

    • @NateAdamsMadeofAdams
      @NateAdamsMadeofAdams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I often think back to this reply and it makes me smile

  • @arlo5740
    @arlo5740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the dark lord gandalf art it is so scary! Awesome theory as always.

  • @christianwilliams2617
    @christianwilliams2617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I LOVE these 'What If' stories! I did have a question, though, if it wouldn't be a bother to see idea from. Is it possible that there can be a 'What If Sauron Stayed Good' or 'What If Gollum Became Good' theory? Anyways, love your content, as always!

  • @YakMotley
    @YakMotley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow! Great video!

  • @ChaoticHarmony431
    @ChaoticHarmony431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I preferred the OG theory, but this was enjoyable too. Keep up the good work ^^

  • @MrAchilleez
    @MrAchilleez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was so good. I’d love to read that alternate timeline anytime

  • @DamonNomad82
    @DamonNomad82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mae Govannon Yoystan! I've always loved contemplating this scenario, and I'm glad you revisited it.

  • @hudsonball4702
    @hudsonball4702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    HAH! You put this video out today on the same day I happen to find my long lost prec... The One Ring replica.

  • @Steel-101
    @Steel-101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oooooh I love “what if” videos! Thank you Mr. West! 😎👍🏼

  • @trollkenobi6727
    @trollkenobi6727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You will not stop me, Gandalf will become more powerful than either of us!

  • @tmwbadh
    @tmwbadh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks! I'm not trying to help you, I'm trying to rob you."

    • @willc1294
      @willc1294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol sounds like something a dodgy politician would accidentally say out loud to his voters :D

  • @bigmo611
    @bigmo611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked the first one, but this one is even better! Thanks a lot!

  • @freezalo7521
    @freezalo7521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay my favorite video from you has been updated

  • @TK-si3nb
    @TK-si3nb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would absolutely love to see a video about what would of happened if Pippin hadn’t of awakened the goblins and balrog in Moria. How long would Gandalf have stayed grey if he didn’t fall?

  • @sethwallwork3670
    @sethwallwork3670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making this I like to see all the creators videos on this theory

  • @ChrisLfc92
    @ChrisLfc92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You Should do a theory on Sauron winning and the host of the valar coming back to beat him!

  • @theflourishersguild9010
    @theflourishersguild9010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect! This makes me want to do an Aragorn or Gandalf piece of artwork! Thanks for the inspiration!

  • @orrointhewise87
    @orrointhewise87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    “Don’t....tempt me Frodo. I dare not take it, not even to keep it safe”
    Just goes to show u; either u die a hero or live long enough to become the villain 😏
    Very glad this did not come to pass, Gandalf the White is a far better outcome than Gandalf the Black 😬

  • @jamesbodnarchuk3322
    @jamesbodnarchuk3322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bad Gandalf = the domination of middle earth! Great Video!

  • @Crafty_Spirit
    @Crafty_Spirit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi guys, somewhat of a random question. Do you think that Sauron was only able to rebuild his body after the downfall of Numenor because the ring tied him to the earth? I'm not sure if he had the ability to recover a physical form without the ring, and here's why: Morgoth was afraid of fighting on his own because he knew he could perish for good if he'd be slain. None of the eliminated Balrogs apparently ever returned, and Saruman was said to wander the earth as an 'immaterial' spirit after he was stabbed. And Gandalf after dying returned on behalf of Eru we are told. Could it therefor be that Maiar can only return to physical form after being slain if some powerful extra magic is at work?

  • @Robridgy93
    @Robridgy93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Saw this uploaded and I was instantly confused on what day it was lol awesome video dude

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL same while I was making it, I keep thinking today is Sunday haha

  • @roberthornibrook6344
    @roberthornibrook6344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ohh update! Love it!

  • @yogidemis8513
    @yogidemis8513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whaaaaaaaaat!!!! A new video on a Wednesday. Today is a good day.

  • @coleton7048
    @coleton7048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fantastically well done!

  • @willjackson7548
    @willjackson7548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are just 👌 absolutely spot on and I love it!

  • @benturner3458
    @benturner3458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome mate. Brilliant stuff

  • @omarflores9011
    @omarflores9011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He will bring peace, freedom, justice, and security to his new empire

  • @davidrider9866
    @davidrider9866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video. Well done

  • @nathaniellong4281
    @nathaniellong4281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These theories on what if Gandalf took the ring remind me of a video made by MatPat at Film Theory some years ago. He was addressing the question about should the Ring had been flown to Mordor by the Eagles. To answer that question, he said he read every Lord of The Rings material, including the books and Tolkien's letters. In his video, he said that the only race that made the best Ringbearers were the Hobbits because the more powerful a race is, the greater the Ring's corruption, and Hobbits are actually the weakest race in Tolkien's Legendarium. Gandalf being a Maiar, meaning one of the Ainur, makes him a member of the most powerful race in Middle Earth, with only the Valar, more powerful Ainur, in Vallinor and Eru Illuvatar, the true God of of the universe(who lives outside the universe in the Timeless Halls), being more powerful. This is why any what if where Gandalf takes the Ring will not end well for Middle Earth, and if I remember correctly, Tolkien himself said so in one of his letters.

  • @fgtrhwu2
    @fgtrhwu2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I very nearly decided to not go to work, thinking it's a Sunday. Thx for the bonus video

  • @fatrick9001
    @fatrick9001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty compelling and likely seeming take.. Well done.

  • @tathemrelag3123
    @tathemrelag3123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Didn't Tolkien say that if another Maiar, a High Elf, or a sufficiently strong-willed Dunedain became master of the One, Sauron would be destroyed in the same way he was when the One was destroyed?

    • @mechadoggy
      @mechadoggy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah

    • @_Kalfy
      @_Kalfy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly but then a new Sauron might appear

    • @taylenday
      @taylenday ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be hilarious, because it would imply that Gandalf should have taken the ring from Frodo and that would've been the end of it.

    • @boldbearings
      @boldbearings 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sauron always returns while the Ring exists.

  • @jameshetfield3105
    @jameshetfield3105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys honestly deserve around 542,985,774,578,417,879,023,467 subs, for content alone.

  • @tomcross3000
    @tomcross3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i liked your previous version too tbh, both of them were very skilfully broken down

  • @Starman256
    @Starman256 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the video, my man

  • @invisiblejaguar1
    @invisiblejaguar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like both versions of the theory, you tell it well as always 🙂

  • @hynjus001
    @hynjus001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so well done!

  • @gandalf7262
    @gandalf7262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fools, stop imagining to take the Ring.
    The One Ring is evil and has his own will.
    The Ring must be destroyed

  • @jameshetfield3105
    @jameshetfield3105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have always wondered if this scenerio played out ever since seeing that scene where gandalf tells why he wouldent wield the ring.

    • @joshivanmel
      @joshivanmel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He probably knew that he will be a far terrible Ring-Lord than Sauron. He is smart and thats scary. He definitely knew this would happen

  • @ProfessorChaos56
    @ProfessorChaos56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Gandalf as Ring-Lord would have been far worse than Sauron. He would have remained 'righteous', but self-righteous. He would have continued to rule and order things for 'good', and the benefit of his subjects according to his wisdom (which was and would have remained great)".
    -Tolkien

  • @RadBrad1986
    @RadBrad1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job on this video! At some points in this video, you could branch it off into different part two's.

  • @jacobdoster4054
    @jacobdoster4054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this one better than the original good job!

  • @jakegetsreel4024
    @jakegetsreel4024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would it be possible to reupload the original video? I like this one, but it's a little hard to follow.

  • @NANA-kf1cs
    @NANA-kf1cs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please do "What if the ents didn't attack Isengard?"

  • @djlejeune-author
    @djlejeune-author 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow well done!

  • @michellejacoby1241
    @michellejacoby1241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this 💜

  • @lordoftherings999
    @lordoftherings999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thank thee for gathering all these informations 😊
    Just an (albeit minor) detail: Tolkien himself stated that, if Saruman took the Ring, he would set himself in Barad-dûr and the Dark Tower wouldn’t be destroyed (also because it was founded upon the Ring).
    I also questioned which is the meaning of the sentence: “The Ring would be the master at the end” (in the letter that explains what would happen if Gandalf took the Ring). Doth it mean that Sauron would come back, or simply that the Ring would corrupt Middle Earth as if Sauron was wearing it?
    Anyway really thank thee 😊

  • @atimidbirb
    @atimidbirb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The road to Hell is paved with good intentions, the au

  • @eldritchyarnbeing3295
    @eldritchyarnbeing3295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "im not trying to rob you, im trying to help you" me when im trying to get something out of my dogs mouth

  • @brianmessemer2973
    @brianmessemer2973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating take

  • @MrKzup
    @MrKzup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much better than than the previous version,

  • @DarthKhayman420
    @DarthKhayman420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone always asks this and imagines him getting it when its offered to him. But I want to know what would happen if Gandalf the White got the one ring. Would he be more powerful than Gandalf the grey getting it. Would he be able to control it better since alot more of his actual self was unlocked when he resurrected or would it still corrupt him just as fast.

  • @JeffYPbPr
    @JeffYPbPr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an awesome what if. Great job

  • @whoopwhoop3660
    @whoopwhoop3660 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    well thought written and spoken!

  • @melkormorgothbauglir.4848
    @melkormorgothbauglir.4848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I know in the timeline this make's no sense but please do what if Melkor had the one ring?

    • @sphere9457
      @sphere9457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Melkor is a tier above Sauron in terms of godhood so it probably would do nothing. He could just snap it in half with his fingers if he wanted.

  • @austinnorton4682
    @austinnorton4682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you take down the original video?

  • @JoshTerror
    @JoshTerror 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is perfect. It's quite the cautionary tale.

  • @shanenolan8252
    @shanenolan8252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks this was a pleasant surprise

  • @chanonnaluta7958
    @chanonnaluta7958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suggestion for a "what if " video: What if Gandalf stayed on the Quest of Erebor?

  • @MrNicoJac
    @MrNicoJac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What changed in this updated version?
    I can't find the old one to compare :/

  • @hummakavula3750
    @hummakavula3750 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was exceptional 👏

  • @arturleperoke3205
    @arturleperoke3205 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Nice Video Men of the West!
    I think Sauron would have still held supreme power over the 9 Nazgul?
    'Sauron, who still through their nine rings (which he held) had primary control of their wills' -> from a Letter of Tolkien.
    'At length Sauron resolved that no others would serve him in this case but his mightiest servants, the Ringwraiths, who had no will but his own, being each utterly subservient to the ring that had enslaved him, which Sauron held' -> from unfinished Tales
    Also I have slight doubts that Gandalf would team up with the rest of the council, since the rings prime effect on others was to deceive them in believing that they have supreme power.

  • @ollep0lle
    @ollep0lle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the other one more... It felt more dramatic and I could visualise everything in my head.
    Im sorry to see you removed that version :(

  • @anactaneustheeleventh2542
    @anactaneustheeleventh2542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one was good, love the lines of the characters.

  • @Halbared
    @Halbared 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sauron wasn'ttable to hold corporeal form, he wouldn't be able to come forth, save in a way that other spirits could see him, I would guess at. I reckon if Gandalf did try and use the ring, he'd wouldn't be corrupted, or at least not for a long time and would see himself at the end and give it up. Nice theory.

  • @TealWolf26
    @TealWolf26 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I definitely enjoy the what-ifs though I feel like often times it goes much more ill or with mixed results at best. I suppose much of it lends to just how frayed and thin the fate of the Free Peoples hung by that only the faintest of hopes would save them. And it did, barely.
    What could have been done better? What could have put Saruman or even Sauron on the backfoot in the scope of LOTR? What decisions would have been better?

  • @neckutter
    @neckutter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I figured Gandalf would have used The 9 to be sheriffs and enforce his “peace”

  • @zzzl4656
    @zzzl4656 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa. It’s Wednesday and we got a video yasssss

  • @rangerofthenorth1970
    @rangerofthenorth1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant figure out how are you doing this famtastic videos over and over again.
    Since I found out about this channel I subscribed right after first video I have seen, it was this original video... fun fact.... just keep going with more and more great content!

    • @MenoftheWest
      @MenoftheWest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the longtime support, my friend! You have indeed been here with us for many years, and here's to many more adventures!

  • @littlefoot5013
    @littlefoot5013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering how she watched the greed for the Simrals wreck havoc on her people, I don't think Galadriel would be in favor of Gandalf putting it on to test it (especially when the fire test would work too, as it did in the actual timeline.), as she might fear it would corrupt him.

  • @EliaZGmod
    @EliaZGmod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder what would happen if it was Gandalf the White who took the ring rather than Gandalf the grey? I think that would make for a good what if theory

  • @monomakes
    @monomakes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magic stuff! Well told😎

  • @hairfine5150
    @hairfine5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome.

  • @jgking847
    @jgking847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whaaaatttt, and updated theory today?? Day is a thousand times better already yoystan!!🙌🏼🙌🏼👏🏼

  • @android584
    @android584 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good although required methods of testing the ring other than personally wearing it to be discarded.
    I think Sauron could be killed without any impact on the outcome. Unless he cannot be killed without destroying the ring?
    The most entertaining One ring theory for me was it being discarded in the ocean.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @johnpatricktan5545
    @johnpatricktan5545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woooo an interesting topic to ponder on...

  • @littlefoot5013
    @littlefoot5013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would think if Gandalf put it on that it also may have created a "disturbance in the Force" that may have alerted Sauron (the maker) as well as the Nazgul (who also had possessed nine of the lesser Rings) and were certainly bound to the One Ring. Granted, Frodo put it on a couple of times but it didn't alart Sauron till he claimed it, but that's because he wasn't really that powerful. If someone like Glorfindel, Celeborn, Elrond, Saruman (good or otherwise), or Gandalf wore it, though, it might have alerted Sauron and the Wraiths immediately.