Im a Michigan fan...fanatic. If the allegations all turn out true and we get the hammer...wins vacated, B1G chips, post season bans, ect.. id be devastated. Heartbroken. I care way too much about Michigan football. This is all so depressing. I know you'll all laugh in my face upon reading this, it is what it is. I cant even begin to articulate the anger and heartbreak this all brings me. Smh
As an ohio state fan, it's bs to hear... I enjoy the fact tht michigan has reignited the spark in the game... && I'm a fan of harbaugh from coaching the 9ers...... it's crippling to the game, and to our conference. Michigan is and shld be viewed as a powerhouse. I wld have never suspected or said they've cheated to best us..... AND I GIVE YOU CUDOS FOR NOT DEFENDING THESE ALLEGATIONS
Refreshing to hear someone with integrity holding the line on expecting their team to have integrity. I to love the idea of the rivalry being more intense again - I am an Ohio State fan and my wife is a TTUN fan - but I would be hyper upset if the only way the Buckeyes could win was to employ unethical behavior or cheat. My cynical mind tells me that something stinks in Denmark (Ann Arbor), but I am open minded enough to hear the evidence. If in fact the allegations prove true, it will be interesting to see how many people throw their morals and integrity out the window in favor of a football game.
I don't want to lose to Michigan as an Ohio St fan but I do like the re invigored rivalry and this ruins in. I don't feel bad for the program, I do feel bad for you.
Your team might be on parole by the time the Irish come around in a few years to restart our series.☘ Keep your head up, you cant take the Walmart out of the Wolverines. The team won't change a thing. Back to regularly scheduled 9-3 in a heartbeat 😊 #SaveMoneyLiveBetter 〽
The anger coming from the rest of the conference isn't just that its illegal. Its that Jim Harbaugh has always been an arrogant, holier than thou jerkoff. He wanted Michigan State players prosecuted last year for a fight that his players started. He's the one that accused Urban of cheating in recruiting years ago. He's the one who says things like "Its tough to beat the cheaters" and "if you have to cheat to win, you've already lost". He's the one that blames refs after games for clearly correct calls and spots. He's the one taking shots at Ryan Day. Jim Harbaugh isn't just a cheater, but he's an arrogant one. Nobody is going to have any sympathy for him.
He is finished. Where there is this much smoke there is fire. He will head to the Pros next year still saying he new nothing about this when the dude is standing on the sideline with him in the game
While I don't disagree, this is about cheating for a competitive edge. Plain & simple. Tressel got crucified for not forwarding an email, to prevent his top 5 offensive starters from getting suspended. The allegation was that he did so to win games. OSU didn't wait for the NCAA. They placed him on administrative leave DURING the investigation, and subsequently let him go before the NCAA ever made a ruling. Urban Meyer's team in 2012 went undefeated (12-0) and missed the post season. The players as well as the new head coach had to deal with sanctions they had absolutely nothing to do with. It's just a product of the beast.
Moronic post. State started the fight. It's literally on video. Other teams bid for recruits through NIL including OSU. I remember when urban covered up domestic abuse and got a slap on the wrist. There is ONE thing going on here. NCAA hates Harbaugh because he is one of the only coaches vocally speaking against them. They want him out. It's unfortunate some people can't see this since it would be great to get people on the same side against the corrupt organization that is the NCAA.
nope. nice try but he clarified it had nothing to do with michigan and gave his applause to the players and the coaching staff for winning that game outright. He said it was issues with officiating
M alum here. You are right this won't be sorted out immediately. The violations (likely it happened) will not cause further harm since the future opponents know and the main perp is suspended. On the other hand Michigan is headed toward the playoffs so it would be good to have some certainty before getting into a situation where where past resulted are vacated. Thanks for your good work on this.
The bowl ban, vacated wins and fired head coaches occurred because of off-field issues for OSU. I can’t imagine UM not getting a huge punishment for this if true. It’s cheating and whether it influenced the outcome of any game is irrelevant. For the last 3 years this was happening?!?!
They will be major consequences, but Michigan will every game, and playoff games if they make it to the playoff, these investigations take time, so as mi fan I see this harbaughs last year this is the same instance as Baylor but they got of having no penalty we all just got to let it go by an work its way out but for the rest of the season no penalty until next. If they put a post season ban that is plain wrong, if I was a player for Michigan and I hear the news of a post season ban that would break my heart. It's jj's last year and if that happens he played his heart out for nothing. I think their should be consequences but not this season.
@@Xavierdj190I see where you are coming from, but i think that benefiting from cheating (if it did occur as it’s being alleged) and still getting the reward at the end is also wrong. I would hate to see it happen to my team, but at the same time it’s more unfair to the other teams that were potentially screwed out of a win or playoff opportunity because of this. If I were to cheat on a math test, but still got to keep my grade, that’s unfair to my classmates. That’s what it seems like to me
@@IntentionalButtDialer that is a fair analogy but I don’t think anything is happening this season these take time to fully get all the evidence and ncaa is going slow with this ! Whatever happens happens. I think the penalty will go towards their recruiting!
It is illegal when you advance scout a team, record their plays at the same time you are recording the signals they are sending prior to the play. This smells bad. Imagine what a tremendous advantage it provides a team knowing the opposing team's offensive and defensive plays. If it proven that they have been doing this for however long, big Blue needs to be appropriately punished.
Games are already recorded and teams do this. The only reason advanced scouting is a rule is because back in 1994 not every team could afford doing this. It's goofy it's still a rule now.
By season’s end, very little about a team is not already on tape from previous games. If a coaching staff can’t review game film and figure it out, they don’t belong in coaching.
they don't do it in advance weeks before the game. you can try to learn their plays at game time but sending scouts weeks in advance is pure cheating@@millzz1178
@@millzz1178 When you are caught doing something illegal, the first tactic is to claim everyone is doing it in order to somewhat justify it and take the heat off. If this is proven true, IT IS CHEATING... FULL STOP. And, punishment needs to fit the crime. If others are doing it, they will eventually be caught.
There is no gray area about who actually attended or filmed the scouted games. If Stalion was involved in giving them the tickets, they were his agents, employees, or conspirators. I am a Wolverine myself. We are largest species in the weasel family but I don't think we can weasel our way out of this one.
I keep hearing this guy, Stallion, referred to as a low level staffer. However he's always right on the sideline and right next to the offensive or defensive coach depending on if they're on defense of offense. Doesn't seem too low level to me. The title is supposed to be an analyst.
The FBI will indeed be involved because of the interstate commerce rules regarding gambling. This is a problem for Vegas. Station and his people probably made lots and lots of money from gambling on this. This is why UM might get death penalty. When the gambling stuff comes out then it's game over. Did the players know? Who profited from this? Were taxes paid? It's much bigger than people imagine.
2:35 ok but standing right behind the “analyst” with his face half in shadows might be the real mastermind of all this… a man who steals mascot heads every week ON CAMERA. A man who works for a company that hasn’t shown this game in years and yet his crew finds a convenient excuse to be there anyway. A man with DECADES of inside knowledge of the big ten AND college football. A man who (presumably) regularly lost as a head coach to both these teams by many, many touchdowns. A man who really, really shouldn’t be standing so close to the action because he can’t possibly move quickly anymore… and yet there he is… he claims to love Brutus… he claims to love Kirk… and yet there. he. is. I see you, Mr. Corso.
Kind of makes u wonder that this might be the reason they got their ass kicked in the playoffs last year because they wouldn’t have really known who they Would play and didn’t have time to scout that team
why did OSU play better vs Georgia a way better team then Michigan ? because they didn't know Buckeyes plays in advance, TCU a weak ass team beat Michigan ? michigan never had the chance to send a spy that's why. then tcu gets crushed by Georgia ?
I mean Harbaugh threw a trick play in the very first drive of the game in the red zone.. he's just an insecure coach. Why was xichigan able to score all 49 or longer TDs on us last year?? We were obviously out of place on all those, right?
I wouldn’t call a 7 point game as getting your ass kicked tcu played well jj had a bad first half and tcu used tempo something Michigan has always struggled against
Don’t forget players had $100k jobs and TPryor mom had a $100k job at a maid service .. wasn’t the EXACT quote “we can pay our employees what we want “. Car dealerships, and “fake office jobs “ ring any bells. Just tattoos doesn’t get your coaches fired
I appreciate the cautious tone on this reporting. It is interesting that the only game in which Michigan didn't look good was in the CFP semi-final game against TCU. Was that because TCU wasn't known to be Michigan's CFP competitor in order to get Stalions to TCU's December 3 game against K State? Also, and I know this is a relatively meaningless set of compares when you are talking 19-21 year olds, but how does TCU beat Michigan and get throttled by Georgia when Michigan beats Ohio State and Ohio State barely loses to Georgia? Seems like that defies the odds just a bit.
@@hangontravellers2584 That wasn't really the point. And, OSU reportedly changing their signals doesn't diminish this as a potential rule violation by Michigan. So perhaps the NCAA will "blast" (as you put it) Michigan as a result if the violation is substantiated. (Why do I get the impression that I'm getting replies from smartass Michigan fans?;-)
What the photos disprove is the claim that Michigan had no relationship to the guy, the guy doesn't exist, and if he did exist, was not involved with the team
He's " Holding out for Book, and Movie Rights. He was last seen at smal Cafe' in Buenos Aires, enjoying the food and betting on the Buckeyes, ....GO -BUCKS
We'll have pictures of the people who were at the games by the end of the week. If they know where his seat was, they know who was setting next to the person he sent to the game. Non-UM will gladly tell their tales.
I don't have a dog in this fight but it looks real, real, real bad for Michigan. It's like Watergate. It started small and got out of hand. It started with minor infractions and because these minor infractions bore fruit, so they ramped them up to become more and more. And, like Watergate, they pissed off very, very powerful enemies who had the resources and recourses to do something about it -- and they will. They will. Harbaugh gone. Bowl Season Gone. Championship Gone. Big Ten Title gone. Recruiting restrictions in. Wins vacated ... tbd. I will say, that as a (biased) Gophers fan, I don't appreciate being lectured about how great Michigan and how much better they are than we are whilst reading this story.
If Michigan University is smart - they will help with this investigation and get this mess cleaned up . . . people cleared out - and get back to football! That's what we want! OSU v Michigan in a fair clean rivalry!!
Makes sense. Always lose bowl games/playoff games because they cant scout those teams signals. They have no clue who they will play at the end of the year. Regular schedule is solidified so they can scout
It seems obvious TTUN didn’t think they’d be playing TCU in last years first round of playoffs & therefore didn’t pre-scout them resulting in the shocking upset loss to TCU in the last years playoff. Also, coincidence that TTUN’s good fortunes in winning began in 2021 at the same time this staffer began sending contacts to watch opponents & presumably steal their signs?! I think not!
ANY Michigan fan should feel shame in the way O-h-i-o st. was crucified for Tatoo-gate. Compared to today with the NIL (pay for play) and gosh knows what else going on...Tressel got shafted royally. Caleb Williams makes 7 figures... c'mon now ... that's alot of tattoos. Anyway..this is probably the last O-h-i-o/UM matchup w Harbaugh on the sidelines. You will be back to domination for the foreseeable future. We're about to be where y'all were at and it sucks. I'm a rational fan.. thanks for reading this.😊
The players weren't trading jerseys for just tats, that was the alibi-- they were trading jerseys for drugs, which is what Tressel was refusing to disclose.
@jayblazek Wrong! Players were not getting drugs. Players were getting discounts on Tattoos. The Tattoo parlor owner was selling drugs to other people out of his shop. Not Players! The F.B.I. informed coach Tressel about this, and the F.B.I. also told Tressel to keep his mouth shut because this was an ongoing investigation, that's why Tressel didn't inform the NCAA.
If you're Penn State or Ohio State you're screaming at the Big ten head office to say they are not allowed on the sidelines during the games. The two big Marquee games coming up have have all three of the biggest names in the Big ten it's bad
I’m not a Xichigan fan, but I do feel sorry for Ward Manual having to put up with Harbaugh and Howard, what a pair of wack-a-doodles . Do they have a psychologist on staff to help him?
"Buck up" Tom and call it like it is, without legal caveats. You've produced solid proof of "close and continuing contact" of the nefarious kind, ergo the lowly wolvies are guilty of something.
Doesn't matter if Ohio state possibly changed up signs and still lost. It's the fact that the act of cheating has happened, and the head coach lied about having prior knowledge. The coverup is always worse than the crime.
@@jamiepitts6235 You have proof that OSU is sending staff to stadiums of upcoming games? Produce it or shut up. Sign stealing isn't illegal. You just have to do within the NCAA rules. UM is showing it ignores those rules.
Sign stealing is NOT a violation. Advance scouting future opponents in the same year is the violation. Why was the rule put in place? It wasn't to protect from sign stealing. It was a cost/funding violation. Probably because smaller schools don't have the budget to send people to opponents games. So, if Michigan is guilty of anything, it's a funding violation.
@@jamiepitts6235 the two violations are advanced scouting in person and using recording devices to film an opposing team. Your view is an obfuscation of what occurred.
Everything they have done over the past two years has been tarnished including the two wins against OSU. Even if they win it all this year, it will have the biggest asterisk attached to it. The one thing that is also obvious is how they lost against TCU. Probably the one team they did not scout since MIchigandid did not think they would get in. Harbough will not be back next year. Cheaters!!!
Surely, Connor Stalions wouldn't be careless enough to create a "paper trail" by using his own credit card, friends or associates. Wondering if he was savy enough to use a decoder ring. He does seem to have a growing reputation. Could have used him before the Battle of Midway. And don't call me surely.
If OSU truly did change their signals, then why was it necessary to for Stalions to be attached at the hip to Michigan's offensive and defensive coordinators? Where did the story that Ohio State changed up their signals before the game come from? If they truly did, then Stalions' presence would be unnecessary on the sidelines.
Ryan Day said so, he's the one that leaked this to the Ncaa and espn, he also claimed Dabo Sweeny stole signs in 2020, he also claimed Georgia had cameras present during the peach bowl practices last year. So, all of Days losses have a theme of Day crying when he looses that everyone must be cheating.
with all the technology, why do they even need to use hand signals? can't they just "radio in" the plays to the QB, defensive "QB?" come on guys...we all know they were cheating. No other explanation for all this crap. Michigan/Harbaugh deserves what's coming to them.
Michigan sideline: uh oh The referees putting his hands on his hips like he's mad. What could that possibly mean quick check the sheet! Oh I get it off sides
Nice of him to bring all his recruiting papers and binder to the game. I'm sure that was very helpful! Dude is making less money than a public school teacher yet he's attached at the hip to the OC and DC for the biggest game of the year 😂😂
@@armandopena2906If Harbaugh or anyone who can speak on behalf of the program can’t come fully clean about what exactly they’ve done and why, then they automatically lose all credibility. Which is worse at this point, assuming there are indeed egregious violations.
That’s exactly what an analyst does lol, you know osu had the same dude on staff, don’t worry they changed signs for michigan last yr so you don’t get to pretend that’s why you lost at home with stroud
You guys kill me. Michigan loses to Ohio for the better part of two decades, good and bad Buckeye teams. Harbaugh said he would win or die trying, sounds like a desperate man did what he needed to beat a team he could never beat before cheating.
Your team flat out sucked last year. You know how much cheating it would have taken for your defense to play that badly? Insanity must be comforting in times like these.
@@philipblauw4687 the same team that took the national champion to the brink? The same team who’s only other loss was to a team currently under investigation for cheating? Wha kinda fantasy world do you live in? Because I want in on that, the real world is too depressing most times.
@@philipblauw4687 Michigan had to resort to cheating to win and still couldnt win a national title.. I don't want to hear anything about "sucking" from a team that is about to have zero titles since 2004.
As a M alum, this was a very fair and professional vid. In the end, it likely will be as bad as it can get for Michigan, yet Jim will probably skate off to the NFL. So disappointing. #whoison3rdbasenow?
I feel bad for the players and fans!! To find out this is going on and everybody they play now is going to say they won because they cheated. It’s not the players fault! I’m a buckeye fan but these players 😔😔
Don't feel bad for the fans, maybe some of the players, because so many people will blow this out of proportion. But as a fan, this whole thing is literally hilarious. During College GameDay Rece Davis had to remind everyone else that "Hey, guys, this is SUPER DUPER serious," because literally nobody else was taking it seriously. Because it's not serious. I mean, this video, they even used the "Vast network" line. The NCAA and Big 10 hate Jim Harbaugh. This isn't surprising. And it is such a non-story, watching this is just funny.
Who cares what “they” say, a lot of these guys are in the NFL or NFL bound. Talented team that’s been whooping a**, to hell with what “they” say “they” lost.
There is a video where it's fairly obvious Stallion was awaiting a call from Ohio State in 2022 on the first play of the game. As soon as a play went in he made a call and all of the players did as well. If true it's systemic. I don't feel bad.
Georgia!!!!! Oh wait that was targeting boo hoooooooo every time you suckeyes lose you throw out excuses first too cold of weather last year stealing….what’s this year going to be??
He works for Michigan, if Michigan is playing I would think he’s supposed to be there since he works for Michigan, I mean if u saw him at penn state vs Ohio state maybe you’d have something but this is just a pic of the the Michigan staff on the sideline during a game
then why suspend an innocent guy ? press conference with both jimmy and the guy to clear the air . Bigten joins up with NCAA not unless they have physical evidence, which they do
Been a Mich fan since the sixties and it always felt like the program is cursed. And now all the wonderful glory of this season going down the toilet shows the curse is as real as real can be😢
And now fans like you have to suffer for it too, which is terrible. Fans like you are who I feel bad for, as well as players that didn’t know. It doesn’t look good for you guys right now, but more will come out soon enough.
8:31 the dudes job is obviously film study the opposing team on both sides of the ball. How do we know Connor isnt just really good at his job and actually deserves 250k instead of 55k like a lower staffer makes 🤔
Makes plausible deniability a little harder cuz it's totally normal for a low level staffer from the recruiting department to be on the sideline all games, every game talking to they HC, OC and DC. Yep, see it all the time, totally normal👌
ALL STAFF has to be in an imaginary 15 yard area , when “live football “ is going on. This is why you see coaches running down the sideline to call timeouts. Bet OSU sidelines looks exactly the same. All staff scrummed together
@@gabeswitala2292 he bought the tickets and forwarded tickets to people who sat in those seats taking photos of opponents signals which is illegal by the NCAA rules
I feel bad for the players who put it all on the line for those W's only to have to possibly suffer the consequence of vacating them if found guilty. This is insanely uncool! Harbaugh and his staff should all be CANNED if found guilty..
@@Circa811Well, they went 15-0 with a National championship by beating good teams after the suspicion was found out, so Michigan proved their ability to win by hard work and determination period.
Not the Linebackers, DB coaches but a supposed analyst standing right next to the DC. when OSU is on offense. Then standing by the OC when OSU is on defense. A nobody? Apparently involved in the play calling on both sides of the ball. Let's here what's on his computer. But it looks suspect to anyone paying attention. The Browns had Bill Belichek as HC and he certainly was no genius. Belicheat discovered videoing future opponents practices, games and formations and then won multiple Super Bowls until he got caught and hasn't done much since. Harbaugh was getting thumped every year by the Buckeyes, then COVID, cancelled game when UofM was a dumpster fire. With basically same player thump the Buckeyes in the Big House and then run it up in the Shoe last season. Kind of explains the drastic turnaround.
Worst take and comment ever lmao. Suckeyes changed calls and defense for Michigan. You was a zone coverage team and went cover 1 or cover 0 man on man all game. Could be a bad game plan and poss poor coaching
And I am sure playing cover 0 and cover 1 when your defense played zone all year long, couldn't run the ball and missed tackles from being in man to man all game leads to big plays. Zero adjustments oh and Day said We thought Michigan was cheating so we changed the signs and STILL GOT WHIPPED. Stop the excuses, take the binky out your entitled for the last 20 year asses and realize Michigan and Harbaugh is Day and Suckeye DADDY for last 2 years and this year too.
What's going to happen is that Michigan fans fully embrace the dark side, like Anakin did. The days of being high and mighty are over, and it's win at all cost. Michigan will have an SEC mentality moving forward, which may be the worst thing to ever happen to Ohio State.
From 'A Few Good Men': "You and Dawson, you both live in the same dream world. It doesn't matter what I believe, it only matters what I can prove, so please don't tell me what I know and don't know, I know the NCAA rules!"
It's amazing that some people think he's traveling to all these games for years, buying multiple seats, and filming the opponents' sideline the entire game and no one important on the Michigan staff knew about it. So what's the conclusion in their minds? Do they think he did it just for fun? Major repercussions for Michigan
@@jimgrushon1419 exactly....I'm about to get a bucket of popcorn. This is up there with the Alabama-Tennessee feud back in the 90's for entertainment value.
Did you take a picture of the blown tackle that let Johnson go 70+ yards for a TD? Did you take a picture of busted coverage that last Johnson go for another long TD? Did you take a picture of the blown assignments that let Edwards go for two long TDs?
It's ok to express your frustration. Everything you have built your confidence on is now crumbling at your feet so now you have to lash out... It's a sad look but understandable.
Ope.. Quick Doc, he took Equate Copium pills. Walmart Wolverine brand always leads to cognitive side effects 🤣 Cant take the Walmart out of Ann Arbor. The program has been abysmal since 1890 when some Notre Dame law students boned you guys 3 days after learning the sport. WOOF ☘
How is that even related? He doesn't have any pictures of Mazi getting indicted on gun felonies or pictures of Weiss getting his house raided by campus police either.
Michigan fan here. At this point, it all feels crystal clear that everything was going on. The only real mystery in my mind is whether or not the staffer was presenting himself as a savant and cheating on the side, or if everyone knew everything. And I know the Big 10's rules (rightly) hold the HC accountable regardless, but if the staffer was in fact cheating on the side then I would not want Harbaugh released. If everyone was in on it, well then fuck.
It’s highly unlikely that Harbaugh and staff was clueless about what was going on. Harbaugh was under so much pressure after getting embarrassed season after season that it’s probable that he or someone else on the coaching staff sought this guy out for his skill at this.
Wake up Your coach is a serial cheater, hence his suspension for the first three games and the last three games of the season. Remember how Harbaugh couldn't wait to confront the evidence in this case and hired a law firm ? but once the Big Ten showed him the evidence they had at that point he humbly accepted their punishment, this shows me he knows his goose is cooked. The Big Ten said if he accepted the terms they would cease their investigation and he didn't hesitate to accept it, however, it is the NCAA that is going to be the final arbiter in this matter, and from what I have seen the FBI has been doing a bit of investigating on this matter themselves. BTW there are plenty of pictures of Stalions standing right next to Harbaugh on the sidelines in several games with laminated cards with the opposing team's signs on them, Yet Harbaugh is still lying about his knowledge of this cheating scandal. IMHO, Harbaugh has shown the world he will lie cheat or steal to win a championship. Hope the NCAA steps in before the playoffs and makes them vacate all of their victories this year, that would only be fair for all of the other teams that unlike Harbaugh follows the rules.
@@titaniumman3398 I don't think you're following the plot. There is no secret that Stalions was "the sign stealing guy", which every team has. The question is whether Michigan thought "Dang, we've got a real good one!" because he was cheating on the side, or if they knew he was cheating. As you said, yes, the NCAA investigation should ultimately reveal all, but which of the above scenarios is the real one is not yet obvious. Being an Ohio State fan may make it FEEL like it's obvious, but it isn't. Unrelatedly, I thought Jim Tressel got totally screwed.
I don’t believe it matters because he purchased the tickets and received videos of the sidelines. Similar to letting a friend borrow your car and they run through a red light camera, you are still liable for any fine.
@@LameChann just playing devils advocate: The rule is no staffer or trainer can attend in-person. I’m just saying, did he break the rule? I can’t help but think that UofM could skate on this charge, as fishy as it is.
@@dcrispix agreed. I don’t think the NCAA would accept a loophole like this if the video leads back to the program and the intent from Stallions. A failure to monitor violation tends to be the ruling in cases like this.
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Im a Michigan fan...fanatic. If the allegations all turn out true and we get the hammer...wins vacated, B1G chips, post season bans, ect.. id be devastated. Heartbroken. I care way too much about Michigan football. This is all so depressing. I know you'll all laugh in my face upon reading this, it is what it is. I cant even begin to articulate the anger and heartbreak this all brings me. Smh
This is what makes my heart ache. I sucks for the fans, and the players who weren't involved.
As an ohio state fan, it's bs to hear... I enjoy the fact tht michigan has reignited the spark in the game... && I'm a fan of harbaugh from coaching the 9ers...... it's crippling to the game, and to our conference. Michigan is and shld be viewed as a powerhouse. I wld have never suspected or said they've cheated to best us..... AND I GIVE YOU CUDOS FOR NOT DEFENDING THESE ALLEGATIONS
Refreshing to hear someone with integrity holding the line on expecting their team to have integrity. I to love the idea of the rivalry being more intense again - I am an Ohio State fan and my wife is a TTUN fan - but I would be hyper upset if the only way the Buckeyes could win was to employ unethical behavior or cheat. My cynical mind tells me that something stinks in Denmark (Ann Arbor), but I am open minded enough to hear the evidence. If in fact the allegations prove true, it will be interesting to see how many people throw their morals and integrity out the window in favor of a football game.
I don't want to lose to Michigan as an Ohio St fan but I do like the re invigored rivalry and this ruins in. I don't feel bad for the program, I do feel bad for you.
Your team might be on parole by the time the Irish come around in a few years to restart our series.☘ Keep your head up, you cant take the Walmart out of the Wolverines. The team won't change a thing. Back to regularly scheduled 9-3 in a heartbeat 😊 #SaveMoneyLiveBetter 〽
The anger coming from the rest of the conference isn't just that its illegal. Its that Jim Harbaugh has always been an arrogant, holier than thou jerkoff. He wanted Michigan State players prosecuted last year for a fight that his players started. He's the one that accused Urban of cheating in recruiting years ago. He's the one who says things like "Its tough to beat the cheaters" and "if you have to cheat to win, you've already lost". He's the one that blames refs after games for clearly correct calls and spots. He's the one taking shots at Ryan Day. Jim Harbaugh isn't just a cheater, but he's an arrogant one. Nobody is going to have any sympathy for him.
He is finished. Where there is this much smoke there is fire. He will head to the Pros next year still saying he new nothing about this when the dude is standing on the sideline with him in the game
Yes blame the ppl attacked still stupid Sparty fans crying their criminals can't play football for shit.
While I don't disagree, this is about cheating for a competitive edge. Plain & simple. Tressel got crucified for not forwarding an email, to prevent his top 5 offensive starters from getting suspended. The allegation was that he did so to win games. OSU didn't wait for the NCAA. They placed him on administrative leave DURING the investigation, and subsequently let him go before the NCAA ever made a ruling. Urban Meyer's team in 2012 went undefeated (12-0) and missed the post season. The players as well as the new head coach had to deal with sanctions they had absolutely nothing to do with. It's just a product of the beast.
That monologue about Harbaugh couldn’t be more accurate. He’s already been a bad apple in the eyes of the NCAA too, this could potentially get ugly
Moronic post. State started the fight. It's literally on video. Other teams bid for recruits through NIL including OSU. I remember when urban covered up domestic abuse and got a slap on the wrist. There is ONE thing going on here. NCAA hates Harbaugh because he is one of the only coaches vocally speaking against them. They want him out. It's unfortunate some people can't see this since it would be great to get people on the same side against the corrupt organization that is the NCAA.
Rutger’s head coach Greg Schiano at half-time against Michigan this year, “There are some things going on out there that aren’t right.”
He came out and said that those comments had nothing to do with anything going on
He was talking about the refs lmao he later stated that in a B1G presser
That’s comical coming from someone who saw A TON of stuff going on at Penn State that shouldn’t have been going on and didn’t say a word….
nope. nice try but he clarified it had nothing to do with michigan and gave his applause to the players and the coaching staff for winning that game outright. He said it was issues with officiating
@@Win4CheesilyYour silly ass believes him🤦
Jim had to do it to keep his job. 1 more OSU loss and he was toast😅
Lmao Michigan didnt need a sign to run the ball down OSU throat
Sign stealing made your defense miss tackles? Rent free my friend. 🤣🤣
Pretty easy to know where the holes are when you know what play is being ran lol you Michigan fans are funny 😂
jimmy had nothing to lose, he was out the door if he lost again so why not cheat
OSU changed their signs prior to the 2022 game. They still got throttled…
M alum here. You are right this won't be sorted out immediately. The violations (likely it happened) will not cause further harm since the future opponents know and the main perp is suspended. On the other hand Michigan is headed toward the playoffs so it would be good to have some certainty before getting into a situation where where past resulted are vacated. Thanks for your good work on this.
I’ve spent 2 years wondering why there was such a discrepancy of play calling between the OSU/UMgame and UM playoff losses. Now it makes sense.
2 years wondering shows you have nothing in your life except worrying about a football game.Get a life .
The bowl ban, vacated wins and fired head coaches occurred because of off-field issues for OSU. I can’t imagine UM not getting a huge punishment for this if true. It’s cheating and whether it influenced the outcome of any game is irrelevant. For the last 3 years this was happening?!?!
Makes more sense why my dogs rolled them 2 years ago in playoffs then rolled the team who beat them last year in the playoffs
They will be major consequences, but Michigan will every game, and playoff games if they make it to the playoff, these investigations take time, so as mi fan I see this harbaughs last year this is the same instance as Baylor but they got of having no penalty we all just got to let it go by an work its way out but for the rest of the season no penalty until next. If they put a post season ban that is plain wrong, if I was a player for Michigan and I hear the news of a post season ban that would break my heart. It's jj's last year and if that happens he played his heart out for nothing. I think their should be consequences but not this season.
@@Xavierdj190 agreed entirely
@@Xavierdj190I see where you are coming from, but i think that benefiting from cheating (if it did occur as it’s being alleged) and still getting the reward at the end is also wrong. I would hate to see it happen to my team, but at the same time it’s more unfair to the other teams that were potentially screwed out of a win or playoff opportunity because of this.
If I were to cheat on a math test, but still got to keep my grade, that’s unfair to my classmates. That’s what it seems like to me
@@IntentionalButtDialer that is a fair analogy but I don’t think anything is happening this season these take time to fully get all the evidence and ncaa is going slow with this ! Whatever happens happens. I think the penalty will go towards their recruiting!
It is illegal when you advance scout a team, record their plays at the same time you are recording the signals they are sending prior to the play. This smells bad. Imagine what a tremendous advantage it provides a team knowing the opposing team's offensive and defensive plays. If it proven that they have been doing this for however long, big Blue needs to be appropriately punished.
Now imagine all of them do it all of the time and you think you’re doing something by mentioning Michigan doing it lmaoo
Games are already recorded and teams do this. The only reason advanced scouting is a rule is because back in 1994 not every team could afford doing this. It's goofy it's still a rule now.
By season’s end, very little about a team is not already on tape from previous games. If a coaching staff can’t review game film and figure it out, they don’t belong in coaching.
they don't do it in advance weeks before the game. you can try to learn their plays at game time but sending scouts weeks in advance is pure cheating@@millzz1178
@@millzz1178 When you are caught doing something illegal, the first tactic is to claim everyone is doing it in order to somewhat justify it and take the heat off. If this is proven true, IT IS CHEATING... FULL STOP. And, punishment needs to fit the crime. If others are doing it, they will eventually be caught.
Michigan probably never thought to " scout" TCU :)
There were no games between the time they found out they were playing TCU, and when they actually played them.
Kinda funny how that works lol
They didn't need to scout with this system calling their plays....!
😂😂😂😂
@@generalchromethey were ranked 4th for about 4 weeks before the end of the regular season and they played one ranked team.
TBDBITL needs to constantly be playing Ace of Base ‘I saw the sign’ for the Michigan game
There is no gray area about who actually attended or filmed the scouted games. If Stalion was involved in giving them the tickets, they were his agents, employees, or conspirators. I am a Wolverine myself. We are largest species in the weasel family but I don't think we can weasel our way out of this one.
I keep hearing this guy, Stallion, referred to as a low level staffer. However he's always right on the sideline and right next to the offensive or defensive coach depending on if they're on defense of offense. Doesn't seem too low level to me. The title is supposed to be an analyst.
This kind of crap will Stop if you take away their TV money for the same Length of time they were cheating.
The FBI will indeed be involved because of the interstate commerce rules regarding gambling. This is a problem for Vegas. Station and his people probably made lots and lots of money from gambling on this. This is why UM might get death penalty. When the gambling stuff comes out then it's game over. Did the players know? Who profited from this? Were taxes paid? It's much bigger than people imagine.
2:35 ok but standing right behind the “analyst” with his face half in shadows might be the real mastermind of all this… a man who steals mascot heads every week ON CAMERA. A man who works for a company that hasn’t shown this game in years and yet his crew finds a convenient excuse to be there anyway.
A man with DECADES of inside knowledge of the big ten AND college football. A man who (presumably) regularly lost as a head coach to both these teams by many, many touchdowns. A man who really, really shouldn’t be standing so close to the action because he can’t possibly move quickly anymore… and yet there he is… he claims to love Brutus… he claims to love Kirk… and yet there. he. is.
I see you, Mr. Corso.
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Kinda pathetic.... You guys are second best now. Deal with it
Basically lol
Kind of makes u wonder that this might be the reason they got their ass kicked in the playoffs last year because they wouldn’t have really known who they
Would play and didn’t have time to scout that team
why did OSU play better vs Georgia a way better team then Michigan ? because they didn't know Buckeyes plays in advance, TCU a weak ass team beat Michigan ? michigan never had the chance to send a spy that's why. then tcu gets crushed by Georgia ?
I mean Harbaugh threw a trick play in the very first drive of the game in the red zone.. he's just an insecure coach. Why was xichigan able to score all 49 or longer TDs on us last year?? We were obviously out of place on all those, right?
I wouldn’t call a 7 point game as getting your ass kicked tcu played well jj had a bad first half and tcu used tempo something Michigan has always struggled against
And Jim Tressle got run for tattoos.
Right 😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏿♂️.... I'm still mad abt tht shit.... 12 yrs later😂😂😂
Don’t forget players had $100k jobs and TPryor mom had a $100k job at a maid service .. wasn’t the EXACT quote “we can pay our employees what we want “. Car dealerships, and “fake office jobs “ ring any bells. Just tattoos doesn’t get your coaches fired
And cars and cash.
This is way worse than that
@@yellowblackbird9000nope. Good attempt at lying though.
I appreciate the cautious tone on this reporting. It is interesting that the only game in which Michigan didn't look good was in the CFP semi-final game against TCU. Was that because TCU wasn't known to be Michigan's CFP competitor in order to get Stalions to TCU's December 3 game against K State? Also, and I know this is a relatively meaningless set of compares when you are talking 19-21 year olds, but how does TCU beat Michigan and get throttled by Georgia when Michigan beats Ohio State and Ohio State barely loses to Georgia? Seems like that defies the odds just a bit.
Not how it works. If we could predict outcomes accurately there would be no need to play the games.
OSU changed their signals before the UM game. UM still blasted them.
@@hangontravellers2584 That wasn't really the point. And, OSU reportedly changing their signals doesn't diminish this as a potential rule violation by Michigan. So perhaps the NCAA will "blast" (as you put it) Michigan as a result if the violation is substantiated. (Why do I get the impression that I'm getting replies from smartass Michigan fans?;-)
What the photos disprove is the claim that Michigan had no relationship to the guy, the guy doesn't exist, and if he did exist, was not involved with the team
michigan has a policy that someone they have no relationship with gets to stand next to OC and DC during games is because ?
The game video shows Connor speaking to their DC who then makes the play call, twice in a row
Thank you for showing the cheating. You are awesome. We need more whistleblowers like you. Don’t apologize!
Where did he get the money to pay for this? He was in the recruiting department. Did their budget go up in 2021?
To all Michigan fans in the comments I quote the immortal words of Nelson from The Simpsons: Ha ha!
Somebody needs to interview this staffer on TV I want to hear from him
He's " Holding out for Book, and Movie Rights. He was last seen at smal Cafe' in Buenos Aires, enjoying the food and betting on the Buckeyes, ....GO -BUCKS
We'll have pictures of the people who were at the games by the end of the week. If they know where his seat was, they know who was setting next to the person he sent to the game. Non-UM will gladly tell their tales.
If my team cheated we deserve what we got coming it makes me sick though
The photos is all you need !!!!
I don't have a dog in this fight but it looks real, real, real bad for Michigan. It's like Watergate. It started small and got out of hand. It started with minor infractions and because these minor infractions bore fruit, so they ramped them up to become more and more.
And, like Watergate, they pissed off very, very powerful enemies who had the resources and recourses to do something about it -- and they will. They will.
Harbaugh gone. Bowl Season Gone. Championship Gone. Big Ten Title gone. Recruiting restrictions in. Wins vacated ... tbd.
I will say, that as a (biased) Gophers fan, I don't appreciate being lectured about how great Michigan and how much better they are than we are whilst reading this story.
After he figured out TCU’s signals, he sold them to Georgia…😂😂😂
Ohio knows the pain of vacated wins, etc. I appreciate the sober photographer’s analysis.
I hope you send this to NCAA and Big 10. The fact that it was a laminated sheet means this was done in advance.
Would be nice to see those laminated sheets? Why does he switch between OC and DC during the game?
If Michigan University is smart - they will help with this investigation and get this mess cleaned up . . . people cleared out - and get back to football! That's what we want! OSU v Michigan in a fair clean rivalry!!
Makes sense. Always lose bowl games/playoff games because they cant scout those teams signals. They have no clue who they will play at the end of the year. Regular schedule is solidified so they can scout
They recorded Georgia and Alabama in 2021 SEC Championship. Still got ass whooped. That's even worse.
It seems obvious TTUN didn’t think they’d be playing TCU in last years first round of playoffs & therefore didn’t pre-scout them resulting in the shocking upset loss to TCU in the last years playoff.
Also, coincidence that TTUN’s good fortunes in winning began in 2021 at the same time this staffer began sending contacts to watch opponents & presumably steal their signs?! I think not!
First there was Woodward and Bernstein. Now there's Gerdeman and Orr. 😅 Who do you guys want playing you in the movie?
I wonder how many games Michigan would have lost of they did not have the opponent's signal?
ANY Michigan fan should feel shame in the way O-h-i-o st. was crucified for Tatoo-gate. Compared to today with the NIL (pay for play) and gosh knows what else going on...Tressel got shafted royally. Caleb Williams makes 7 figures... c'mon now ... that's alot of tattoos. Anyway..this is probably the last O-h-i-o/UM matchup w Harbaugh on the sidelines. You will be back to domination for the foreseeable future. We're about to be where y'all were at and it sucks. I'm a rational fan.. thanks for reading this.😊
The players weren't trading jerseys for just tats, that was the alibi-- they were trading jerseys for drugs, which is what Tressel was refusing to disclose.
@jayblazek Wrong! Players were not getting drugs. Players were getting discounts on Tattoos. The Tattoo parlor owner was selling drugs to other people out of his shop. Not Players! The F.B.I. informed coach Tressel about this, and the F.B.I. also told Tressel to keep his mouth shut because this was an ongoing investigation, that's why Tressel didn't inform the NCAA.
If you're Penn State or Ohio State you're screaming at the Big ten head office to say they are not allowed on the sidelines during the games. The two big Marquee games coming up have have all three of the biggest names in the Big ten it's bad
Good show. Thanks for your diligence.
Michael Herrell
Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people
I’m not a Xichigan fan, but I do feel sorry for Ward Manual having to put up with Harbaugh and Howard, what a pair of wack-a-doodles . Do they have a psychologist on staff to help him?
All makes sense. Michigan terrible for a decade now seemingly overnight, juggernauts lol
"Buck up" Tom and call it like it is, without legal caveats. You've produced solid proof of "close and continuing contact" of the nefarious kind, ergo the lowly wolvies are guilty of something.
Doesn't matter if Ohio state possibly changed up signs and still lost. It's the fact that the act of cheating has happened, and the head coach lied about having prior knowledge. The coverup is always worse than the crime.
again, not a crime...everyone does it including OSU
@@jamiepitts6235 You have proof that OSU is sending staff to stadiums of upcoming games? Produce it or shut up. Sign stealing isn't illegal. You just have to do within the NCAA rules. UM is showing it ignores those rules.
What the opposing team does matter. It’s what Michigan does..
Sign stealing is NOT a violation. Advance scouting future opponents in the same year is the violation. Why was the rule put in place? It wasn't to protect from sign stealing. It was a cost/funding violation. Probably because smaller schools don't have the budget to send people to opponents games. So, if Michigan is guilty of anything, it's a funding violation.
@@jamiepitts6235 the two violations are advanced scouting in person and using recording devices to film an opposing team. Your view is an obfuscation of what occurred.
Excellent reporting, guys. Buckeye Huddle rocks!
Yall soft just like yall coach, yall scared as he.... I thought yall was the sht lol,
Well they didn't know Bowl game opponents in the past and got whacked
Tom Zapruder. Nice work, bro. People get life with less circumstantial evidence.
Everything they have done over the past two years has been tarnished including the two wins against OSU. Even if they win it all this year, it will have the biggest asterisk attached to it. The one thing that is also obvious is how they lost against TCU. Probably the one team they did not scout since MIchigandid did not think they would get in. Harbough will not be back next year. Cheaters!!!
" I as yelling focus at my computer" lmao
Surely, Connor Stalions wouldn't be careless enough to create a "paper trail" by using his own credit card, friends or associates. Wondering if he was savy enough to use a decoder ring. He does seem to have a growing reputation. Could have used him before the Battle of Midway. And don't call me surely.
If OSU truly did change their signals, then why was it necessary to for Stalions to be attached at the hip to Michigan's offensive and defensive coordinators? Where did the story that Ohio State changed up their signals before the game come from? If they truly did, then Stalions' presence would be unnecessary on the sidelines.
Ryan Day said so, he's the one that leaked this to the Ncaa and espn, he also claimed Dabo Sweeny stole signs in 2020, he also claimed Georgia had cameras present during the peach bowl practices last year. So, all of Days losses have a theme of Day crying when he looses that everyone must be cheating.
Kinda like Ryan Day. Because he called a useless game last year.
@@sunnydays885 None of that is true though lol!
@@sunnydays885day never said it. Their was no suspicion
Ryan Day literally said it publicly. It's a direct quote
Minute 5:20 I did a close-up and you can definitely make out hand signals on the piece of paper the M Coach is holding out.
Definitely is 😂😂😂😂😂
Perfectly legal.
Lmao that’s something new
But it is the ref signals lol
with all the technology, why do they even need to use hand signals? can't they just "radio in" the plays to the QB, defensive "QB?" come on guys...we all know they were cheating. No other explanation for all this crap. Michigan/Harbaugh deserves what's coming to them.
It's amusing how many Michigan fans are commenting and watching these videos. Lol, doing their best to put up a defense.
Them saying....Sure we steal cars, but only if they are unlocked so it's okay.
Just stopping by for the donkey show...
@@PSCA1988 Coming from an
OSU fan you might want to keep the car talk down a little.
Nawll we just here because Yall soft just like yall coach, yall scared as he.... I thought yall was the sht lol,
@@BANGARZ1ya so soft cuz we don’t cheat and steal signs 😢
Michigan sideline: uh oh The referees putting his hands on his hips like he's mad. What could that possibly mean quick check the sheet! Oh I get it off sides
Can’t the the BIG conference act sooner than the NCAA? Would the BIG really let Michigan just play in the conference title game this year?
How many low level analyst are on the field with laminated sheets and standing next to coordinators and head coach?
Nice of him to bring all his recruiting papers and binder to the game. I'm sure that was very helpful! Dude is making less money than a public school teacher yet he's attached at the hip to the OC and DC for the biggest game of the year 😂😂
Just further proof that this operation goes through many levels within UM. “Someone” was funding these guys.
@@armandopena2906If Harbaugh or anyone who can speak on behalf of the program can’t come fully clean about what exactly they’ve done and why, then they automatically lose all credibility. Which is worse at this point, assuming there are indeed egregious violations.
😭
That’s exactly what an analyst does lol, you know osu had the same dude on staff, don’t worry they changed signs for michigan last yr so you don’t get to pretend that’s why you lost at home with stroud
@@timlamb1156 I don’t think anyone with a brain is saying that. Stop deflecting.
Remember what happened to the Buckeyes over tattoos and golden pants.......
You guys kill me. Michigan loses to Ohio for the better part of two decades, good and bad Buckeye teams. Harbaugh said he would win or die trying, sounds like a desperate man did what he needed to beat a team he could never beat before cheating.
Correct. Urban and Day broke Harbaugh. He went full cheat mode
Your team flat out sucked last year. You know how much cheating it would have taken for your defense to play that badly? Insanity must be comforting in times like these.
Yall soft just like yall coach, yall scared as he.... I thought yall was the sht lol,
@@philipblauw4687 the same team that took the national champion to the brink? The same team who’s only other loss was to a team currently under investigation for cheating? Wha kinda fantasy world do you live in? Because I want in on that, the real world is too depressing most times.
@@philipblauw4687 Michigan had to resort to cheating to win and still couldnt win a national title.. I don't want to hear anything about "sucking" from a team that is about to have zero titles since 2004.
Initially I thought this was nothing. But, as things progress, yea, this smells bad and looks very shady.
Would be wise to wait and see what comes out.
As a M alum, this was a very fair and professional vid. In the end, it likely will be as bad as it can get for Michigan, yet Jim will probably skate off to the NFL. So disappointing.
#whoison3rdbasenow?
Pretty sure these dudes play dungeon and dragons and participate in cosplay
lololol on nintendo lol 90's version lol
Harbaughs mentor is the Bill Belichick!🤣🤣🤣
I feel bad for the players and fans!! To find out this is going on and everybody they play now is going to say they won because they cheated. It’s not the players fault! I’m a buckeye fan but these players 😔😔
Don't feel bad for the fans, maybe some of the players, because so many people will blow this out of proportion. But as a fan, this whole thing is literally hilarious. During College GameDay Rece Davis had to remind everyone else that "Hey, guys, this is SUPER DUPER serious," because literally nobody else was taking it seriously. Because it's not serious.
I mean, this video, they even used the "Vast network" line. The NCAA and Big 10 hate Jim Harbaugh. This isn't surprising. And it is such a non-story, watching this is just funny.
Who cares what “they” say, a lot of these guys are in the NFL or NFL bound. Talented team that’s been whooping a**, to hell with what “they” say “they” lost.
There is a video where it's fairly obvious Stallion was awaiting a call from Ohio State in 2022 on the first play of the game. As soon as a play went in he made a call and all of the players did as well. If true it's systemic. I don't feel bad.
@@darrinwarner4046 It is indeed systemic that nearly every team in the nation attempts to steal signs. That would include your Buckeyes.
Yes they try to steal during not send 3-6 man advance teams to record to numb nut
Please! JJ MCCARTHY hits 3 MONSTER plays against cover zero in the second half??? COME ON Michigan CHEATED like hell to win this game at the SHOE!!🤬🤬🤬
TCU !!!!!!!!!!!!
Georgia!!!!! Oh wait that was targeting boo hoooooooo every time you suckeyes lose you throw out excuses first too cold of weather last year stealing….what’s this year going to be??
Ohio State said they switched up signals before the game last year
@@greggtaylor8666because they don’t want their players thinking about this.
😭😭😭 BOSA. 〽️
All other D1 schools are now covering up their guys now because we know this isn't isolated
3:57 "A little out of focus and grainy?" Lol. The Zapruder film should be so crystal clear.
He works for Michigan, if Michigan is playing I would think he’s supposed to be there since he works for Michigan, I mean if u saw him at penn state vs Ohio state maybe you’d have something but this is just a pic of the the Michigan staff on the sideline during a game
then why suspend an innocent guy ? press conference with both jimmy and the guy to clear the air . Bigten joins up with NCAA not unless they have physical evidence, which they do
Analysts aren't supposed to be on the sideline. There are limits to on field coaching staff at football games.
To me this sounds like someone from the SEC is afraid of missing the playoffs. 😂. They usually wait until the bowl games to make their allegations.
They are being accused by teams they play. And we all know Michigan doesn't want to play a power five team in the non con.
Been a Mich fan since the sixties and it always felt like the program is cursed. And now all the wonderful glory of this season going down the toilet shows the curse is as real as real can be😢
And now fans like you have to suffer for it too, which is terrible. Fans like you are who I feel bad for, as well as players that didn’t know. It doesn’t look good for you guys right now, but more will come out soon enough.
What about 1997?!
@@jayblazekNebraska also shared the (mythical) championship with UMich.😢
8:31 the dudes job is obviously film study the opposing team on both sides of the ball. How do we know Connor isnt just really good at his job and actually deserves 250k instead of 55k like a lower staffer makes 🤔
Why do he have paper in his hands that don’t add up
If you have the raw file of that sign sheet you can try running it through topez to clean up the blur
I hope you sent these to the NCAA investigation. Big that you got an analyst standing on a sideline. Truly unbelievable work here.
Yall soft just like yall coach, yall scared as he.... I thought yall was the sht lol,
Makes plausible deniability a little harder cuz it's totally normal for a low level staffer from the recruiting department to be on the sideline all games, every game talking to they HC, OC and DC. Yep, see it all the time, totally normal👌
ALL STAFF has to be in an imaginary 15 yard area , when “live football “ is going on. This is why you see coaches running down the sideline to call timeouts. Bet OSU sidelines looks exactly the same. All staff scrummed together
@@b.douglas2753But how could he both be on the sideline at all the games while simultaneously live scouting opponents? I'm so confused here.
@@gabeswitala2292 he bought the tickets and forwarded tickets to people who sat in those seats taking photos of opponents signals which is illegal by the NCAA rules
Stealing signs is not illegal, on site scouting is the issue, correct?
I feel bad for the players who put it all on the line for those W's only to have to possibly suffer the consequence of vacating them if found guilty. This is insanely uncool! Harbaugh and his staff should all be CANNED if found guilty..
They knew too.
Don’t feel bad for Cheaters.
Cheaters actually Never Win…
@@Circa811Well, they went 15-0 with a National championship by beating good teams after the suspicion was found out, so Michigan proved their ability to win by hard work and determination period.
Great work.
Not the Linebackers, DB coaches but a supposed analyst standing right next to the DC. when OSU is on offense. Then standing by the OC when OSU is on defense. A nobody? Apparently involved in the play calling on both sides of the ball. Let's here what's on his computer. But it looks suspect to anyone paying attention. The Browns had Bill Belichek as HC and he certainly was no genius. Belicheat discovered videoing future opponents practices, games and formations and then won multiple Super Bowls until he got caught and hasn't done much since. Harbaugh was getting thumped every year by the Buckeyes, then COVID, cancelled game when UofM was a dumpster fire. With basically same player thump the Buckeyes in the Big House and then run it up in the Shoe last season. Kind of explains the drastic turnaround.
He was helping Ohio state out more than Michigan since Ohio changed all their signs lol
Belichick's run had nothing to do with Brady...lol..
Worst take and comment ever lmao. Suckeyes changed calls and defense for Michigan. You was a zone coverage team and went cover 1 or cover 0 man on man all game. Could be a bad game plan and poss poor coaching
You are just making stuff up at this point.
And I am sure playing cover 0 and cover 1 when your defense played zone all year long, couldn't run the ball and missed tackles from being in man to man all game leads to big plays. Zero adjustments oh and Day said We thought Michigan was cheating so we changed the signs and STILL GOT WHIPPED. Stop the excuses, take the binky out your entitled for the last 20 year asses and realize Michigan and Harbaugh is Day and Suckeye DADDY for last 2 years and this year too.
That chart looks like signal calling sheet of Ohio State.
What information is on his cards will tell everything.
Xichigan fans on here its ok this is the first sign of Grieving 😂😂😂😂
Learning how to spell Michigan is the first sign of intelligence.
Mmmmmmm
Yall soft just like yall coach, yall scared as he.... I thought yall was the sht lol,
@@philipblauw4687lol nicknames not okay for you
Man they are crying hard… 😂😂😂 I love the buckeye tears, they taste great 👅
Good work here. Subbed.
Congrats finally hard evidence! You got a click from me 😂.
I bet they have a crazy flustered look on their face against TCU lol.
Its gonna be so hilarious when xichigan gets caught up in this stuff and the comments sections are gonna be so quiet😂😂
What's going to happen is that Michigan fans fully embrace the dark side, like Anakin did. The days of being high and mighty are over, and it's win at all cost. Michigan will have an SEC mentality moving forward, which may be the worst thing to ever happen to Ohio State.
Yall soft just like yall coach, yall scared as he.... I thought yall was the sht lol,
Nerd alert
That moment when you have to spell a state wrong because you’re an Ohio state fan meanwhile Ohio sounds like a sneeze someone couldn’t cover in time
@@MetaintelligenciaXichigan, TTUN both nicknames from buckeyes. Kinda like suckeyes
From 'A Few Good Men':
"You and Dawson, you both live in the same dream world. It doesn't matter what I believe, it only matters what I can prove, so please don't tell me what I know and don't know, I know the NCAA rules!"
Low level staffer😅
It's amazing that some people think he's traveling to all these games for years, buying multiple seats, and filming the opponents' sideline the entire game and no one important on the Michigan staff knew about it. So what's the conclusion in their minds? Do they think he did it just for fun? Major repercussions for Michigan
Awesome as always thanks guys go bucks ❤
Num-nuts the one white laminated sheet you referenced is a penalty card. I have an old phone and I can see that.
lololol they dumb as he.. lol, they're the forgotten./
Yes it is, jesus h christ...
Jim Harbaugh said it best back in his NFL coaching days, “If you cheat to win, then you’ve already lost.”
1960s - 1980's Oakland Raiders: "If you're not cheating, you're not trying."
That’s before he lost 5 straight games to Ohio State and the alumni was all over him. Maybe he changed his mind.
He meant if you get caught cheating, you have already lost.
@@rxmaster03 well, I think they just got caught and the more the films come out the less defense of deniability is being flushed away.
@@jimgrushon1419 exactly....I'm about to get a bucket of popcorn. This is up there with the Alabama-Tennessee feud back in the 90's for entertainment value.
Did you take a picture of the blown tackle that let Johnson go 70+ yards for a TD? Did you take a picture of busted coverage that last Johnson go for another long TD? Did you take a picture of the blown assignments that let Edwards go for two long TDs?
It's ok to express your frustration. Everything you have built your confidence on is now crumbling at your feet so now you have to lash out... It's a sad look but understandable.
Ope.. Quick Doc, he took Equate Copium pills. Walmart Wolverine brand always leads to cognitive side effects 🤣 Cant take the Walmart out of Ann Arbor. The program has been abysmal since 1890 when some Notre Dame law students boned you guys 3 days after learning the sport. WOOF ☘
@S.-.V you didn't answer his question. 😂😂😂
@@yellowblackbird9000What does one half to do with the other?
How is that even related? He doesn't have any pictures of Mazi getting indicted on gun felonies or pictures of Weiss getting his house raided by campus police either.
I heard tonight the computer has pictures of Ohio State, PSU, Tenn signals.
Michigan fan here. At this point, it all feels crystal clear that everything was going on. The only real mystery in my mind is whether or not the staffer was presenting himself as a savant and cheating on the side, or if everyone knew everything. And I know the Big 10's rules (rightly) hold the HC accountable regardless, but if the staffer was in fact cheating on the side then I would not want Harbaugh released. If everyone was in on it, well then fuck.
It’s highly unlikely that Harbaugh and staff was clueless about what was going on. Harbaugh was under so much pressure after getting embarrassed season after season that it’s probable that he or someone else on the coaching staff sought this guy out for his skill at this.
Wake up Your coach is a serial cheater, hence his suspension for the first three games and the last three games of the season.
Remember how Harbaugh couldn't wait to confront the evidence in this case and hired a law firm ? but once the Big Ten showed him the evidence they had at that point he humbly accepted their punishment, this shows me he knows his goose is cooked.
The Big Ten said if he accepted the terms they would cease their investigation and he didn't hesitate to accept it, however, it is the NCAA that is going to be the final arbiter in this matter, and from what I have seen the FBI has been doing a bit of investigating on this matter themselves.
BTW there are plenty of pictures of Stalions standing right next to Harbaugh on the sidelines in several games with laminated cards with the opposing team's signs on them, Yet Harbaugh is still lying about his knowledge of this cheating scandal.
IMHO, Harbaugh has shown the world he will lie cheat or steal to win a championship.
Hope the NCAA steps in before the playoffs and makes them vacate all of their victories this year, that would only be fair for all of the other teams that unlike Harbaugh follows the rules.
@@titaniumman3398 I don't think you're following the plot. There is no secret that Stalions was "the sign stealing guy", which every team has. The question is whether Michigan thought "Dang, we've got a real good one!" because he was cheating on the side, or if they knew he was cheating. As you said, yes, the NCAA investigation should ultimately reveal all, but which of the above scenarios is the real one is not yet obvious. Being an Ohio State fan may make it FEEL like it's obvious, but it isn't.
Unrelatedly, I thought Jim Tressel got totally screwed.
So, is Conor Stalions doing in-person scouting if he’s on the Michigan sideline on Saturday’s?
I don’t believe it matters because he purchased the tickets and received videos of the sidelines. Similar to letting a friend borrow your car and they run through a red light camera, you are still liable for any fine.
@@LameChann just playing devils advocate:
The rule is no staffer or trainer can attend in-person. I’m just saying, did he break the rule? I can’t help but think that UofM could skate on this charge, as fishy as it is.
@@dcrispix agreed. I don’t think the NCAA would accept a loophole like this if the video leads back to the program and the intent from Stallions. A failure to monitor violation tends to be the ruling in cases like this.
I see a Pulitzer Prize coming for investigative journalism!
Tell them I said:
Ohio State coaches should start fervently trying to flip Michigan commits to come to Columbus!