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Is it possible to replace a Scott Spark frame with current 29 wheels and 1 x setup with a Scott Genius Frame (with longer travel shock) and purchasing a longer travel fork?
I have a question, tell us about that cool watch you wear and that great chunky band. ‼️
Wearing a helmet during those those accidents is the sort of real-life fact that really squashes any arguments posed by the helmet non-wearing statisticians - the ones who argue that wearing a helmet puts people off cycling and that wearing a helmet doesn't save a life in an accident etc...you only need to have one fall where a helmet protects your head to stop you ever wasting your time reading another article about the pro's or cons of helmets...it amazes me that it's still even debated.
Nino was using a dropper last year for a while but said it allowed him to ride too fast and take more risks on the descents causing punctures so he went back to a standard post.
You gave that bike away Doddy because you're a good dude(done it to for moto)....Almost forgot, have you been able to ride a mtb with the new Fox Live Suspension? What do you think about the whole idea of semi-active suspension on a mtb. For another show obviously. Thanks!
Sounds like you need to commute with a full face helmet
Thats what Im doing with my Fox proframe. Theres nothing wrong with commuting with full face helmet. If motocyclists are okay doing that, I dunno why most cyclists consider it weird.
@@bilibiliism there are still many cyclists that reject helmets altogether. I find that very odd. Kids are worst for it. They think helmets are not cool. I make my kids wear them, and if I get any back chat I just ask them to find me any one pro cyclist in any discipline that goes without a lid.
I always wear a helmet but a full face one does sound better, especially with the mutants that drive in my town. Even the footpath isn't safe
Took a spill in Copenhagen traffic once. Full face helmet saved my face.
@@anftrew3775you best prag the dont find pro bmx street riders (brandon begin being a main one )
I woke up on the ground. Road rash on top of my hands, knuckles, wrist, on my chest, and on the bottom of my chin. Thankfully no broken teeth or bones. Just really sore and confused.
Was on a WalMart Mongoose mountain bike. 21 speed. Going as fast as I could down hill on a paved road and bunny hopped a speed bump. Woke up on the ground.
The front axle snapped and when I was in the air the front wheel fell out. I landed on bare forks that dug in the road and catapulted me forward and body slammed me. Lol I was about 13 or 14 years old.
In my 30s now.
I'll never forget that one.
Sounds like fun
Ouch!
oof that wheel dropping out mid-jump made me cringe - glad it didn't lead to worse injury!
How did the axle snap in the air?
damn, im glad i don't have a mongoose
That GT Zaskar is a sweet looking bike.
Always wanted one of those beauties.
I've got a mango yellow hand made Frame at my parents. Few chips but still in reasonable nick.
The blue one was the first bike that I fell in love with after seeing it in mags!
A Protec helmet saved my life as well. Had a downhill longboarding accident and cracked the entire left side of my skull cracked. Was using one of the clear plastic ones with foam pads no styrene.
I'm just trying to get my head around Doddy with long hair.
Thanks for ruining the whole vid now that you pointed it out I can’t unsee it
@@bikingnebraska2667 Lmao. Sorry man.
Kirk Dillon hope it wasn’t a fro 🤯
i think thats the first time i came across Doddy reading MBUK back before youtube days. recently got back riding and watching GMBN. Watched so many episodes before occuring to me that its the same guy in the magazine.
He has a long face
One of the torq wrenches on the wall was facing the other way. Really got on my nerves.
Damn it, now I can't stop looking at it!
Hahahhah that hilarious 🤣
I was looking at the wrenches on his left shoulder all nicely lined up...then I saw the torq and stared at it throughout the show
how sad!
There's three facing the wrong way.
that's a forking shocking story...x2 glad you made it thru...so much respect
I remember seeing something about Nino Schurter using a dropper post. From memory he said he uses or would use a dropper post on a hardtail but not a full suspension. The reason for not using a dropper on a full suspension bike is he would go too fast.
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It occurred to me that it is clear that Doddy has not suffered any brain damage from those two horrific crashes. (Wear those helmets, kids!) He is definitely the brains of the GMBN outfit. He probably has IQ points that he never bothers to use but just keeps as spares.
How could we pigeon hole the others?
Neil is the quiet (and probably under-appreciated) guru. He is not the most vocal but when he does speak, listen! Very few empty words come out of his mouth.
Blake is the 12 year old in all of us. That is a characteristic that will serve him well all his life. Eventually, he will be everyone's favorite grandfather.
And Martyn is... Martyn. Apparently, it IS possible to be inspiring AND goofy at the same time. I never even knew of him in the days before his wheelchair days but from what I have seen in old clips and references, he hasn't really changed. Goofy always wins out!
My question is this: Is what I am seeing close to reality or all these just how they are for the camera?
Tim Garland, “goofy”- do you mean stupid?
@@norwegiantroll2480 Nope! More like delightfully silly! This is definitely a good thing!
Just wait until he's older. Brain injuries can be slow to show themselves.
Some people turn into geniuses with head injuries
this is utterly wrong and 5 years later Doddy remains so incredibly dull
Doddy, I love all the channels in the (conglomerate). I especially love the GMBN Christmas Show. :) BUT! I admire how you bring compelling content all by yourself every week, then you fill in on the Dirt Shed Show. You're a great presenter, you're a hard worker, and you make all the difference for this old guy. I hardly watch any mainstream TV. So to Martin, Neil, Blake, Dan , Si, and of course you , Doddy, a Merry Christmas and a very prosperous 2019. Forgive me if I missed anyone. Cheers from NH-USA!
Fox Proframe helmet. It's amazing and prevents these types of things. You won't even know it's a full face it's so light and breathable. Plus, it looks awesome and for some reason, I'm just a little faster when wearing it. I'm willing to rid a bit harder knowing I'm more protected. Strava PR's baby!!!!
Know how this compares to a giro switchblade?
@@ousqa Sorry I do not. All I can say is the Proframe is awesome. I took a bad spill and hit a tree with my head at about 10ish mph a few months ago. It felt like a slap on the head and that's it.
@@thehammer4860 make sure you replace it after a crash bro. They can be hiding structural weaknesses
What an excellent presentation.
This popped up from the past with a banged up Doddy that pulled me in.
Thank you Doddy for your consistently great videos.
2:05 your old stinky deluxe reminds me of my old stinky I replaced the front shocks with bomber junior t's and upgraded the rear spring and drive train. I put it through hell and back a bunch one of the worst beatings it took was a 10deep stair gap into a cement basketball court throu the court and off another set of 14 large stairs to another flat landing which snapped the frame clean in half on the bottom tube (just in front of the word kona)and the top tube broke where the cable housing meets the frame the only thing that held the bike together for 20 feet after landing till i tried to turn was the weld that held the cables stays on. Got custom machined slugs to slide inside broken frame and welded broken tubes back up at a boat welding place. A few months later I snapped the rear right bottom swing arm got that fixed at the same welding shop.
Since then I've purchased a brand new kona stinky and haven't snapped it yet and it's been years.
My buddy had a Zaskar and it was a beauty, indeed. What a throwback! My dream bike in those days was the Slingshot.
I cannot believe I've just found these videos, I've seen the GMBN ones but not with Doddy in. Takes me back to my youth. I think if I went for a beer with Doddy and talked about bikes, I'd need a couple of days drinking to get through. Doddy you are right in the fact you can't get a bad bike now, it's like comparing a modern car with a car from the 70's, the looks might be exceptional from the 70's but all that tech and know how has trickled through to every car. Great show guys.
Cut the tip of my thumb off when aligning my disc rotors and callipers
Ah, The Causeway! I know it well. I've lived in Staines all my life. Launched myself off that kerb on my old BMX many times.
Dropper on the hard tail makes total sense. My son's Kona came that way and he rides that bike on all terrain including big park jumps. The dropper makes it really fun for him
Dude I had a crash kind of like yours last February. I was riding to work and it was 30F (just below 0C) outside. It was snowing, but only barely, however the roads all of a sudden had a slight slippery coating from the wetness of the road starting to cool down. It was the perfect storm.
I went hard around a corner, on my lightweight tires (Schwalbe Marathon Supremes), and instantly slid out. I must have fallen within a nanosecond, and the impact was entirely on my left orbital floor, just below my eye. Thankfully I was NOT wearing sunglasses, because they would have shattered into my eye.
I heard a super loud crack, saw a LOT of blood, and thought I knocked half my teeth out. The pain was bad, but the shock was worse. I'm surprised I didn't get a concussion. In fact, I'm surprised I didn't get anything other than a broken orbital and a snapped brake lever. One of the residents in the community saw it happen and took me in to clean me up. I got sewed up at Urgent Care, and two weeks later did a bikepacking trip in South Florida.
That was my worst crash by far. Feel free to read more about the crash, my bikepacking trips, and other stories here: thecyclinglifeofdave.wordpress.com
A while ago (about 40 years) i came off my bike (Puch Pacemaker) i was found on a blind bend on a country road at night by a nurse, she said other drivers were just driving round me. I had headaches the next day and can't remember it happening but the back end of my bike was bent as though i'd been hit by a car. I always wear a helmet now.
doddy,
pleaseeeee do a 2nd . part. I really enjoyed this video.
Had forgotten about the AMP bike, the full polished version was my dream bike “back in the day” (feeling old 😁)
I've had the chain pop off and landed on my face it sucks great vid ✌
GT and Hans Rey videos were my childhood !! What a time to be alive! I Would love a GT Box series BMX to relive the glory days.
I don't have your Zaskar but I do have a 91 Zaskar and a 95 Zaskar LE. Great bikes.
Poor Doddy! I'm sorry that happened to you dude... twice. SMH. My worst crash was on a commute too. Crashed so hard right before school and went through the entire day with a broken wrist. You're tough as nails mate!!
Oh man that fork breaking accident and the broken helmet, terrifying.
Two quick stories from my time racing in NORBA xc races. Years after I stopped racing, I related this story to a couple friends of mine who also used to race. I once saw a guy go over his bars mid-race and roll, only to catch a pedal on his face and rip his upper eyelid nearly off. As it turns out, eyelid guy was one of the guys I was telling the story to. He and I had been friends for years. We met several years after the race and he never told me about the injury because it never really came up. After some plastic surgery to repair his eyelid he was left with only a tiny scar so I never knew.
During that same race, on the second of two laps (for a total of 24 miles) I went over the bars in a river crossing, did a spectacular front flip, and landed head first on a rock. My helmet cracked clean in half. There was a huge crowd watching because that particular spot was notorious for accidents. I'm certain they all thought I was dead because there was nothing but silence until I sprung up remounted and continued on with my helmet fragments hanging from my head. I was somehow magically uninjured. Thank the two-wheel gods for helmets.
Great video, thanks guys!
Yeah more options is good.my first time on a dropper is great a especially on technical climbs. Personally I didn't think it made any difference but when you're faced with an technical climb. I think that's where the dropper post shines. I can't believe I never really went and bought one before. 100% definitely recommend it to anyone who's curious. And it is definitely a a better option. Still not a one by type of guy but, I think that was a better upgrade then I one by system by far...
Funny to see a Curtis SX24 again, I used to have one. Ex team with "Davage" in the drop outs (Jim Davage). Sent it back to Curtis to be refurbished in Howies Blue, fitted Manitou Sherman forks. Great memories!
Always entertaining and informative Doodles!
I love this video. I still love any and all Mountain bikes that i have ever owned,even the crappy ones as they made me the climber and technical rider that I am today . My 2 biggest losses were a swell red/white Schwinn Moab 1 with a full XT 97 and a 94 XTR crank and a cool tough as nails Judy C . the second was my old KONA AA. the only frame I ever owned that was a 19 inch with the proper length top tube. that puppy left with my favorite fork of all time,the Judy xc with aluminum steer tube and a -5mm travel for the spring /oilbath system. that fork came off that Schwinn Moab 1. I would still buy them today if I could find them. cheers !!
hey Doddy what was the first bike you ever owned
I'll never forget that time when I was working on my old bike's frayed shifter cable and it flinged and poked me in my eye, my eye was very uncomfortable for how many days, gotta keep glasses on when working on cables from now on
Cool vid, I can hardly believe those pics of your old dual slalom fork
I'm glad you were wearing a helmet for both of those horrific crashes Doddy, and it is a bit of a wake up call. I always wear a helmet when mountain biking but less so when commuting or riding the rails to trails system.
But who's wearing a full-face whilst commuting?!
My worst biking injury happened in a similar sort of fashion to your fork incident in that I lost the front wheel off my bike and hit the pavement. It was the first bike I had with quick release hubs, and none of my friends had seen them before so people were fiddling with them. I didn't think to check it before I took off down the road to a friend's place. On the ride there, not even 100 meters from my house really, I started bouncing the front end up and down gently, just messing around, and the front wheel popped off, at which point the forks hit the ground and I got tossed rodeo style to the pavement hard on my left side, and then slid a ways on tar and chopped pavement. I knocked the wind out of myself, chewed up my hands pretty good, and took about a 2 inch long chip off the end of my pelvic bone, but that wasn't the worst of it honestly. I had also pulled basically every muscle in my abdomen, and my groin on the left side, badly enough that it all turned black and blue, or more accurately yellow and green a couple days later. I couldn't even get up off the ground, so my dad loaded me in the back seat of the car, and drove me to the hospital. Once there, the pain had really set in and they had to use a hardboard to get me out of the back seat. Took about 3 weeks before I could walk normally again. Thankfully my body dissolved the bone spur, so no surgery was required.
Ah, that pair of failed forks and freehub explains a few things, especially when you consider the Staines massive too
Guys great work keep it up and keep riding
Nice to hear someone pointing out the advantage of a taller person using a dropper. A lot of 170-175cm riders dissing the dropper, when they have never felt what it is like to be 185+cm and sitting on 80+ cm saddle height on a XC bike going full speed downhill.
I still ride a litespeed obed fs from 1996, which uses the Amp Research B3 rear suspension platform. Pretty close to your retro choice! I've modernized it with all new components other than the frame. Still rides well! Although I just recently did some demos of modern bikes, and Doddy is right; modern bikes blow away the old ones in terms of geometry. It made me realize how short, steep, and squirrelly my binge is. Still love it though!
3:09, Gives me shivers thinking about it. I had the same component fail on me once... thank god i was just in the carpark d*cking around before going out onto the main trail.
nice to hear a shout out to Hemming the Lemming (yes i was a old skool MBUK reader)
Hardcore, mate!
Love the old mtb’s I remember wanting that amp fork so bad:) that zaskar was a bad boy in its day.
That fork-related injury must've made one hell of a halloween costume mask though. Glad you're ok Doddy, hello from Barbados, love the GMBN/Tech/EMBN content.
Splinters from steel braided line. 100% the worst non-serious injury. I got a pair of kevlar gloves just to work with them on my brother’s racecar.
The things I used to do when I had some RST 461 triple clamps. How I'm I still around. Would love to see anew version of an azonic dS1 frame.
I believe that the Dropper post is the best innovation in the last 20 years of Mountain Biking. Boughtf a bike this past May 2020 and the last bike before that was a 1995 GT Zaskar. Holy crap there is a lot of things that have changed but the Dropper post is by far the best thing about my new bike.
The short handlebar thing brought back memories, they were usually paired with a long stem that gave me an aching back. Now I’m older and wiser I take plenty of no notice of mountain bike magazines.
I was on a bmx bike in 3rd grade years and years ago and I was fake speed wobbling for fun going down a short hill to my friends house. In a speed wobble I hit some leftover gravel from construction and I flew face first off the bike and slid on the ground for a couple of feet. Worst pain I’ve felt after my face stopped sliding into a curb
I just got a dropper for my bike, mainly cause I was tired of having to stop before every descent to drop the saddle, and then again before every climb to raise it back up. Now, I can actually get some flow goin.
However, would any of you guys be interested in stress testing the Schwinn Protocol 2.7 with the upgrades I gave it? I have it listed in the AM section of the mtbr forums. I will be swapping the front tire with a conty trailking, and the front hub with a deore m525 to match the rear however, so if you guys could use those too (if you do wind up stress testing), it would make for an awesome build review.
"so yeah, get a dropper post, basically" LOL
I prefer a slow rising dropper post. You got to protect the jewels 😉
Awesome video! The idea of making a video with Nino Schürter sounds great, would love to see it?
Came in to see the cover photo. Can't say I am not disappointed.
omg, that purple in combi with yellow rockshox really pretty;)
I’ve bent SOOOO many posts on a 26.8 frame...ended up having to get a Thompson post....very pricey but well worth it.
Can you get a 26.8 dropper even??
Retro frame set from Doddys MBUK days - Dave Yates Diablo - drooled over them in MBUK
Dave Henming pic on Diablo.. class
That was pretty grim. Ouch!
The Cannondale that appears around 6min13secs ... A friend of mine has one of those here in Brazil... A 26er... as it used to be back then, the tires with the white walls...
OMG, Dave Hemmings, I chatted his missus up before a DH race nr Bewdley, lol. Missed my first run as was in the WOODMAN, second run, came 82nd, with a glare from Dave lol.
Worst injury, the world hit me on the top of the head. Fractured my skull, broke my C7 and T12 vertibrae, midshaft clavicle displacement, 6 ribs (1-6 flailing segments) and a punctured lung. Get my shoulder reconstruction on January 10th hoping to be back on the bike in a few months.
Great episode
Thanx dottie
12:59 and also no seat slammed into the chest. the balance, and traction, and control you get, it's really a no brainer.
This happened to me on my dirt jumper 3 weeks ago and I was knocked out and hospitalized for a day.
0:56 I struggle with joint misalignment, so I bang my hands and other body parts on my bike or tools, annoying, but I think I should l get some Mechanix gloves, with padding, cus hitting finger tips and knuckles is not pleasant. but smart selection of tools is also good idea, like for example not using adjustable spanner and separate cassette lock ring tool, which means avocational dropping of tools, so I went for Abbey Crombie, not had a problem since.
for my riding I got Troy Lee wrist support, but I sohuld have supports all over, but I haven''t tried that, but most important one is my wrist, so it helps, but I haven't worked n my bike with it.
I had several crashes, due to accidental turning, due to shoulder,elbow,wrist misalignment, I went off a wall once, but once I crashed into a wall and scraped up my mid forearm are, once I was climbing at walking pace at a bike path on the way from grocery shop, when I turned to left accidentally, I went down, elbow, shoulder, and head almost hit, I got a bruise on my shoulder, good I had Dh padding from Poc on & full face for my crashes.
Nice AMP B1/B2....I see you are a man of culture as well!
The flashbacks, still ride my SM500 to work every day.
I still have a soft spot for the Amp B1 - I had some F1 forks and they were so good compared to the forks of the time!
I have been wearing a Mongoose FFH since 2015...and i wear a motorcycle jacket in the winter.
Shortend bar's with bull bar end's...trangle,bum and HB bag also had a cross bar pad,Suspension seat post and bar stem.
Glad to see you got out of that accident/catastrophic mechanical failure alive...personally i would have sued the company responsable for such a dangerous product.
Chain snapped on a single speed jump aswell but lucky I was going slow and there where no cars near me so I was able to save the fall to a slight graze on my hand
interesting as always ta
Re: Question 1
Have you guys done a video on common workshop injuries?
If not, that's a good one. Would be good to watch as I'm a newbie to doing my own maintenance!
We're looking into the most common workshop mistakes, so if you have any good ones, let us know!
@@gmbntech I'm sure you guys have enough horror stories to tell but one that caught me out recently was the rookie mistake of spilling sugary drink all over my carpet when I flipped my bike upside down in the house without taking the bottle off!
I snapped a set of FR4s in the same way and did a set of MX6s about 10 months later, terrible forks.
What do u call the tool uses on the fork for putting the starnut?? Thnk u..
#AskGMBNTech. Hi Doddy, great shows, keep up the good work. I have GT sensor elite 2015 model and my free hub has packed up. Can you help me locate a new one as I'm struggling to find one that matches. It has the all terra hubs and is 10 speed. Many thanks.
@8:52 Aawh Doddy, getting emotional for a long lost baby, I feel your pain Bro. Lost my 94 Cannondale super V900, signature model Franc Roman for a deposit on a new frame, say a paperboy a week later riding my baby. It took a lot of self restraint from knocking him off and pinching the bike lol.
Do hope you find that bike Doddy - agree you were mad letting it go it's a masterpiece.
I’ve still got some Judy SL’s on my steel Diamondback. 😀
Your story really inspired me to wear my helmet all the time instead of 60%ish and my full lid on the single track.
Damn, that Zaskar build was very nice.
I had a bottom bracket shell drop out of the down tube. I couldn’t breathe when the nutts met the saddle. I check welds for cracks very regularly now lol.
Ive been riding for 4 years now, i ride alot of trails but dont own and cart afford a dropper poast.
I've been riding at the age of 4, now i'm 16 and still riding all types of bicycles!
The good zoom fork 😂
What should be the pressure ish of my tire if I'm 5'2 a and 135 pound I'm riding lot of cross country rock and roots not as wet as u guys..I know I can check online but I trust u ...my bike is a ibis dh mojo thx
Hi, I'm just starting back into My DH I've not done it for year's last bike was the ATX DH so will be very interesting to see how the bikes of today are compared to some of the Gem's from back in the day! I used to love my mates, Kona Stinky I was thinking of grabbing one but heard what you said about them being outdated in today's world! I thought they were pretty much masted top class back then and wasn't much more to upgrade from them all! What is the go to rim today still the Mavic or what's the game now?
hey fella glad your ok and recovered i see the bike you crashed was a kona and here there very good strong frame with rear suspension...yours was a front end issue sadly but not the frame my question is this.... whats the biggest kona frame you can get with a straight top bar as im 6/2 an i wish to get a triangle 72v battery in there can someone or anyone who is still the proud owner of one please take the time to give me a triangle measurement leaving about an inch or more for suspension movement ??
"Would it look weird?" Doddy- "Yes."
Brand of all your background tools handy man heheh
Hey Doddy, what dropper post would you recommend, and how much travel would you recommend on that post?
3:41 - Just going out to check my chain right now.... Ouch.
I have that same Kona stinky five with a marzocchi bomber fork still hanging in my parents garage. Same color and everything
I had the Rock shox Judy XL on my saracen X-xile they were amazing! Non of that bike was left standard should have just bought a frame but think it was more expensive for the frame than the whole bike at the time lol
almost cutting off my finger while adjusting disc brake calipers was about the most painful thing that's happened to me. happened all so fast I was just a few mil too far to the spokes, got caught in the rotor and it already happened. damn glad I still have that finger haha
my worst injury working on my bike, wasn't even working on my bike. my friend and i were switching his cranks, so he took his old ones off then threw me an allen key to remove the pedals, i stripped the bolt and gashed open most of my hand on the biggest chainring. i remove my pedals much more carefully now
I had the chainring give out on me at one point on my road bike in the winter and spent the next few hours in the hospital picking gravel and rock salt out of the road rash on the top of my head, ruptured my spleen on the handlebars. Hurt enough to keep me off the bike 4 days
I would love to see a modern 29er version of the mongoose black diamond triple downhiller, back in the day that was one of the kings of downhilling at my local skii resort. I still have the bike and ride it for nastalgia but man i forgot how heavy it is compared to the modern stuff but its still fast as hell downhill.
I jumped off that same curb in staines back in the day. Not sure i would still do it now. Especially after what happened to you. Dam