I've been in construction for nearly 40 years and obviously have relied heavily on this industry for my way of life. Loved the Proverb. One of my favorites
It’s a shame what goes on in the forest products industry. Hopefully what happened with the Goodsons will bring real positive change to the logging industry. Corruption is so deep in our nation it’s disgusting and sad.
AMEN!! I just hope someone does something before it's too late!! The problem is there is always somebody out there to cut wrist someone else to get the wood!! God Bless you and I support your message too!! All loggers need to stand together or we all are in trouble!!
I agree with this, but I feel I should note that it is not just the loggers that are suffering right now, the landowners are feeling the pinch too. If you have trees, they are a huge (and extremely vulnerable) capital item that only returns every 20-25 years and is left bare at the moment of harvest. In the mid-South, many (in some areas most) farmers stopped row crop farming and cattle farming and started tree farming in the 70s/80s. They saw an opportunity to have good returns on investment and when their trees were ready for harvest, they could expect good competition (and therefore good profits) when they sold them. As the "old school" loggers went away in favor of the extremely high capital expense modern logging company and corporate consolidation, imported lumber, more recycling, etc. dried up the number of mills/buyers, the price that the landowner gets has not only gone down in current year dollars, its gone down drastically when corrected for inflation. Yet, we have obscenely expensive lumber, while the landowners and loggers are going broke. A tornado tore up several acres of good timber on my home place, so I got a forester to estimate the value. I was stunned at how little it would have been worth to log. A lot of landowners are not replanting because they can't get enough money from the timber sale to pay for replanting. I do see a glimmer of hope in that I know a LOT of people have invested in "peckerwood" sawmills and are starting to saw their own lumber and sell it locally, cutting out the middle men.
Great message Thomas I want to say more but I'm not gonna get on that soapbox but I will say this that it's not just the logging industry hurting, but if don't stand up for ourselves and defend what our forefathers gave us it will not be here.
That was an excellent message. A great Proverb quote too. I agree-our world must wake up. We as the consumer must ban with the sources ( you guys) to halt this crap. Prayers to you and your dads businesses. Been thinking a lot about you all after I watched the Goodsons. We are in a mess!!!!!
I'm retired now but had to deal with this my entire career, logged for many years and also had a trucking company. IMHO the two companies most responsible for starting the ( this is what we will pay and if you don't like it we will get someone else) are General Motors and US Steel they made it stick and everybody else followed them, the only thing you could do was find a niche where you could make a profit and stay there.of course the chickens have come home to roost so we will see how it all shakes out.
We’ll said my friend. I watched in shock when Bobby and Lori announced that they were getting out of the logging business. When a true giant bows out it time to take notice.
The same situation exists here in Canada. Lots of equipment going to the auction sales and contractors downsizing to reduce debt or getting right out of the business. Fuel costs, parts and equipment prices, labor costs all inflating in a big way and no open discussion with mills on rate increases. Will be an interesting season!
Amen brother! I'm in Virginia and I personally know to loggers who have shut down in the last 2 years. We the people are screwed apparently our government thinks more of people in other countries than they do for there own people.
Could it be because we are dead "on paper" with the all caps name? Ever googled name fraud? What if they are 2 William Moxey's 1 dead and 1 alive, the paper you and then the REAL flesh and blood you. Are you a name? Are you sure your name is William Moxey? I mean did you pick your name before birth (think berth of a vessel) That is what they call the flesh right? What if unknowingly we are acting as the dead guy? What if the United States was a corporation and instead you thought it was a legit, dejure government?
I work at a Mill in MI and our mill and every other mill within several hundred miles has had to consistently increase the price per ton for our wood and are paying almost 2x compared to a couple years ago, Not enough loggers in the woods anymore to meet the demand
I know the timber industry is suffering right now and so are the farmers i got a friend that farms and he's barely hanging on. But you all hang in there an keep praying that things turn around 🙏 for cost of fuel cost of equipment and pray for better rates for the hard work you'll are putting in cause we diffently need wood for various reasons
They want us to keep "praying" aka "prey to god" get it? Instead of us banding together and rooting out this orchestrated evil. Keep ignoring folks like Nikola Tesla, Viktor Schauberger and others with better technologies. Anything medical, food, housing, electrical (all the real necessary stuff to survive) should also be free.This is literally insane world and people are in a trance, still talking about democrats and republicans and they (both parties) are playing us all like a fiddle, fools AND asleep we are! Rise from the slumber folks! WTFU!
The dairy industry is another industry that dosnt get to negotiate the price at witch they sell. There is a big problem with this and it needs to be addressed.
Us loggers are out here just trying to make a living for our family. bowwater shutting down in Tennessee has alot of there work come to Alabama they have put us on quota. 6 loads of putwood a week. This didn’t hurt our company much bc were a small company with only 4 workers. But really hurts bigger logging company’s.
Mills could care less how many loggers they destroy. As long as they can stay on the gravy train, they will. The issue is, we are continuing to feed the problem. Construction is booming despite lumber cost. The only way to get the price down is to stop buying it!
Just a part of the times. I remember reading about riots between whalers and politicians years ago. Since we no longer needed whale oil. Crude oil took over. Some things just go this way.
The logging business has been a race to the bottom. The mill is full so they lower the price so loggers ramp up production to make the same money sooo... the mill drops the price again. This happened with pulp in the '80s and now sawlogs. The mechanized operations have such big overhead that they need to keep making wood even if the mill price drops. The price of pine logs here in the northeast is just getting back to where it was before the 2008 crash. Why should the mills pay more for logs when they are getting flooded with wood? Mechanization is not going away but if we keep overproducing just like dairy farming some of us are going to go out of business.
I live in New Hampshire we made more money 20 years ago then we do today the cost to operate is crazy and the price per thousand never went up when you look at 20 years and the cost of a 2x4 today the only one that gets beat is a logger
Thomas that is for sure the truth about logging because if something ain’t done with that bunch in that White House up there the loggers and the truckers are in trouble I hope and pray that someone will stand up for y’all because when the loggers and truckers shut down the whole United States is gonna be down so a great little video my friend and I hope you can weather this out
I graduated Forestry College in 2008 and everyone went to work in the industry except me, I already saw the writing on the wall and just kept my ass in college, I have a deep love for forestry and don't regret my time in school but I'm glad I didn't go into the industry, I breed Ragdoll kittens and it's excellent money and I can do it in my underwear LOL.
It’s way way way different, farmers have government help, we have zero help from anywhere. Farmers have options to sell their stuff at different places for different prices. We do not have that option.
@@CuttingEdgeLogging_Thomas More alike than different. I’m from a logging family but been dairy farming for 20 years. We don’t all get (or accept) subsidies and acting like we do is a disservice to all the producers in this country that are getting the shaft. Actually, in my area the low grade market has been supported by subsidized rates paid to the biomass power plants to keep them running. Dairy Farmers of America has a monopoly on my market just like IP did when my dad was trying to support us on pine pulp.
The mills don't want the job of logging or trucking because they can't do it profitably themselves! Grandpa always said "you can't work a mule if you don't feed him" . Maybe they will wake up to this fact.
We are all hurting at least those that care what happens to our friends and family and for people who we don't even know. God Bless You All and remember we need a change from top to bottom of all aspects of the life we're living in 2022🙏. Please remember we should have each other's back but our country has abandoned us we have lost the respect of our elected officials they only respect greed and control plus Power.
we always been cut out and pushed out of the way,, 'i'm native'', for this savage rampage of what is suppose to be big billion industry,, machines that destroy and them loggers paying for it,, riiiight, is not right they should have made the dough and used it as a grant to build other business to strive from,, mini malls shopping complex, small apartment building,, if ya'l wondering (with this southern accent' look whos talking) it's exactly what I did with the scrap metal logging left behind.. one of them was'nt even broken,, just had to revert wiring back to original position, ye don't really have to destroy too much to build something else,,, no sense in wasting lifetime of work just for artheritis.
Grow better Trees! Of course that pine ain't worth nothing! They got endless miles of pine and spruce in Canada! Plus all the bamboo coming out of Asia. Grow hardwoods. Get smaller equipment. The sawmills around here have their own logging crews and have their own land. American pulp wood cutters are not going to be around for much longer. Smarten up or start stacking lumber at the mill!
My fellow Conservatives vote for "capitalism baby" "the free market via supply and demand" until their going gets tough. That letter is nothing but deeply veiled socialism and shameless hypocrisy. Bernie and AOC would be so proud.
So what are you going to do to help the loggers in your area? I'm one of them. We've had no substantial pay raise in years. Will you be the one to finally stand up to the mills and low ballers? Can you be the one get the major haulers of our area to shutdown for final change? Will Bennett, Ricky Day, Broadway or HK shut down operations? We need a true leader in the Piney Woods Outlaw area! Will you be the first to lead the way? I'm driver now but was once a woodsman and I can tell you that pay sucks here. The trucks suck and wait times in the mills are grotesque!!! Be a LEADER not a POSTER!!!
Before you can lead you need a following, I’m working on step one. I am a board member of the Louisiana Logging Association and have the backing of the American Logging Council. We are doing everything we can to create change. Shutting down isn’t the answer, we must unify and act as one. I honestly feel more is wrong from our industry because loggers and some truckers tell their foresters “we’re ok, it’s tight but we’re ok” or start working till dark every day. The first week of July there will be a meeting in town and we need every trucker and logger there. Keep a eye out for details on that to come. But I promise, there are lots of us trying, we’re not talking for attention. We just need everyone else to stand with us when needed.
@@CuttingEdgeLogging_Thomas I'll stand with you and do what is necessary. You have a following but many of us are frustrated with the industry as a whole. Many of us are generational in the industry and remember when it provided a great living for a family. The days of pinching pennies until the Buffalo craps are gone. People need leadership as to the direction to take. It seems complaining to owners of logging companies is getting nowhere and more loggers and drivers are starting to talk about walking off and blocking mills and jobs. The woods used to provide a great life for the workers and families. How is diplomacy going to solve this issue when Florien alone makes millions extra in a year while stomping a the family man at the bottom of the totem pole. 16 hours a day with 3 children and a wife that was fired for a shot is kinda hard to swallow for $200 a day. Time for mills to wake up and pay correctly or run dry.
@@CuttingEdgeLogging_Thomas Indeed, but my hardwood log buyer upped my white oak by 100/mbf and I never asked. He knew I was working a thin margin on this job. What I meant was, I buy my stumpage myself. I pay as much as I can, but I always buy it at a rate that leaves me what I need. Every job is different, so I adjust. In the long run I make the same each month no matter wood quality, quantity, or terrain. At least, that is the goal.
You state that the timber industry is the only one that lets the buyer dictate the price. The dairy industry runs on that same model. Farmers take whatever they are paid. And worse, they can not hold or store there product for any amount of time. They can not stop milking a cow and wait for better prices. There pay changes every two weeks. Im not taking away from the logging industry only trying to shed light on other industrys that struggle.
Y’all deal with a commodity. That’s always been the lowest common denominator in the business world. Understand, when a builder goes to the lumber yard, and requests some 4x4s, plywood or finishing lumber, he don’t really know where it comes from, nor does he care, long as it meets a basic specifications. Y’all be better off sending junior to university for a biology, accounting or engineering degree, and working for a large corporation what processes lumber. That’s where the money is.
I remember watching him and his show on TV like I don't know 15 20 years ago and he was always belly aching then how he was just barely making it and how he was going to have to shut down at any moment. That got tiring to hear show after show. Listen times are tough for pretty much all of us and only going to get tougher. For people that understand we are living at the cusp of Revelation chapter 6 of the Bible. It's exciting times but trying times. Call on Jesus Christ if you haven't already cuz that's the only way you're going to make it through and out.
very good message. Loggers have always gotten the short end of the stick while the mills and final product people get the big end of the stick.
because loggers are fucking stupid
Also the land owners get hosed !
I've been in construction for nearly 40 years and obviously have relied heavily on this industry for my way of life. Loved the Proverb. One of my favorites
It’s a shame what goes on in the forest products industry. Hopefully what happened with the Goodsons will bring real positive change to the logging industry. Corruption is so deep in our nation it’s disgusting and sad.
AMEN!! I just hope someone does something before it's too late!! The problem is there is always somebody out there to cut wrist someone else to get the wood!! God Bless you and I support your message too!! All loggers need to stand together or we all are in trouble!!
Great message 👍 👏. Much respect for all the hard working men and women in the woods
Good job .For all us old loggers .The time has come to where the money needs to come on down the line .
I agree with this, but I feel I should note that it is not just the loggers that are suffering right now, the landowners are feeling the pinch too. If you have trees, they are a huge (and extremely vulnerable) capital item that only returns every 20-25 years and is left bare at the moment of harvest. In the mid-South, many (in some areas most) farmers stopped row crop farming and cattle farming and started tree farming in the 70s/80s. They saw an opportunity to have good returns on investment and when their trees were ready for harvest, they could expect good competition (and therefore good profits) when they sold them. As the "old school" loggers went away in favor of the extremely high capital expense modern logging company and corporate consolidation, imported lumber, more recycling, etc. dried up the number of mills/buyers, the price that the landowner gets has not only gone down in current year dollars, its gone down drastically when corrected for inflation. Yet, we have obscenely expensive lumber, while the landowners and loggers are going broke. A tornado tore up several acres of good timber on my home place, so I got a forester to estimate the value. I was stunned at how little it would have been worth to log. A lot of landowners are not replanting because they can't get enough money from the timber sale to pay for replanting. I do see a glimmer of hope in that I know a LOT of people have invested in "peckerwood" sawmills and are starting to saw their own lumber and sell it locally, cutting out the middle men.
all you morons who signed up to a collective and gave away your individual bargaining rights. ARE FUCKED. understand this. you idiots.
I feel it will get much worse yet. Prayers be with us all. Cheers from Canada
Great message Thomas I want to say more but I'm not gonna get on that soapbox but I will say this that it's not just the logging industry hurting, but if don't stand up for ourselves and defend what our forefathers gave us it will not be here.
Good stuff! United we Stand and Divided We Fall!!!!!
That was an excellent message. A great Proverb quote too. I agree-our world must wake up. We as the consumer must ban with the sources ( you guys) to halt this crap. Prayers to you and your dads businesses. Been thinking a lot about you all after I watched the Goodsons. We are in a mess!!!!!
Very good message Thomas!
Can we appreciate what a good looking load that was at 2:00
I'm retired now but had to deal with this my entire career, logged for many years and also had a trucking company. IMHO the two companies most responsible for starting the ( this is what we will pay and if you don't like it we will get someone else) are General Motors and US Steel they made it stick and everybody else followed them, the only thing you could do was find a niche where you could make a profit and stay there.of course the chickens have come home to roost so we will see how it all shakes out.
We’ll said my friend. I watched in shock when Bobby and Lori announced that they were getting out of the logging business. When a true giant bows out it time to take notice.
Guess his bailout money ran out. Why are we giving government money to millionaires?
The same situation exists here in Canada. Lots of equipment going to the auction sales and contractors downsizing to reduce debt or getting right out of the business. Fuel costs, parts and equipment prices, labor costs all inflating in a big way and no open discussion with mills on rate increases. Will be an interesting season!
Great message thomas!!Thomas!!! The people on capital hill needs to hear this message
Amen brother! I'm in Virginia and I personally know to loggers who have shut down in the last 2 years. We the people are screwed apparently our government thinks more of people in other countries than they do for there own people.
Could it be because we are dead "on paper" with the all caps name? Ever googled name fraud? What if they are 2 William Moxey's 1 dead and 1 alive, the paper you and then the REAL flesh and blood you. Are you a name? Are you sure your name is William Moxey? I mean did you pick your name before birth (think berth of a vessel) That is what they call the flesh right? What if unknowingly we are acting as the dead guy?
What if the United States was a corporation and instead you thought it was a legit, dejure government?
@@thewitness9305 I don't quite understand what you're saying.
I work at a Mill in MI and our mill and every other mill within several hundred miles has had to consistently increase the price per ton for our wood and are paying almost 2x compared to a couple years ago, Not enough loggers in the woods anymore to meet the demand
Because that 2x needs to be 12x
Great message Thomas.
That was an awesome message
As a 3 gen logger small business owner my grandpa my dad it breaks my heart truly but we're hard to kill love to my brothers & sisters
I know the timber industry is suffering right now and so are the farmers i got a friend that farms and he's barely hanging on. But you all hang in there an keep praying that things turn around 🙏 for cost of fuel cost of equipment and pray for better rates for the hard work you'll are putting in cause we diffently need wood for various reasons
They want us to keep "praying" aka "prey to god" get it? Instead of us banding together and rooting out this orchestrated evil. Keep ignoring folks like Nikola Tesla, Viktor Schauberger and others with better technologies. Anything medical, food, housing, electrical (all the real necessary stuff to survive) should also be free.This is literally insane world and people are in a trance, still talking about democrats and republicans and they (both parties) are playing us all like a fiddle, fools AND asleep we are! Rise from the slumber folks! WTFU!
Great message brother
Awesome message Thomas and hopefully it will change soon
you know its bad when wood is worth more as fire wood than logs for the mill
The dairy industry is another industry that dosnt get to negotiate the price at witch they sell. There is a big problem with this and it needs to be addressed.
Us loggers are out here just trying to make a living for our family. bowwater shutting down in Tennessee has alot of there work come to Alabama they have put us on quota. 6 loads of putwood a week. This didn’t hurt our company much bc were a small company with only 4 workers. But really hurts bigger logging company’s.
Supply & demand is out of whack ; fewer mills & abundant timber ! There will be another thinning of the herd , just as happened in the past !
Mills could care less how many loggers they destroy. As long as they can stay on the gravy train, they will. The issue is, we are continuing to feed the problem. Construction is booming despite lumber cost. The only way to get the price down is to stop buying it!
Well spoken my friend
Amen spot on
Amen brother
In my experience, it's the
guy at the mill robbing you blind with a scale stick and his thumb!!
They know, they wont give a flying f until there ain't no wood at the mill
Very well said. 💪
Just a part of the times. I remember reading about riots between whalers and politicians years ago. Since we no longer needed whale oil. Crude oil took over. Some things just go this way.
Until loggers can create some type of unified front the timber industries going to treat you how they like, you guys have the power if you take it.
The logging business has been a race to the bottom. The mill is full so they lower the price so loggers ramp up production to make the same money sooo... the mill drops the price again. This happened with pulp in the '80s and now sawlogs. The mechanized operations have such big overhead that they need to keep making wood even if the mill price drops. The price of pine logs here in the northeast is just getting back to where it was before the 2008 crash. Why should the mills pay more for logs when they are getting flooded with wood? Mechanization is not going away but if we keep overproducing just like dairy farming some of us are going to go out of business.
I live in New Hampshire we made more money 20 years ago then we do today the cost to operate is crazy and the price per thousand never went up when you look at 20 years and the cost of a 2x4 today the only one that gets beat is a logger
Great message!
Thomas that is for sure the truth about logging because if something ain’t done with that bunch in that White House up there the loggers and the truckers are in trouble I hope and pray that someone will stand up for y’all because when the loggers and truckers shut down the whole United States is gonna be down so a great little video my friend and I hope you can weather this out
Well said
same in uk re farmers milk and veg supermarkets have so much pull they dictate the price !¬
I graduated Forestry College in 2008 and everyone went to work in the industry except me, I already saw the writing on the wall and just kept my ass in college, I have a deep love for forestry and don't regret my time in school but I'm glad I didn't go into the industry, I breed Ragdoll kittens and it's excellent money and I can do it in my underwear LOL.
farmers have always been told the price to buy everything and What there products are worth
It’s way way way different, farmers have government help, we have zero help from anywhere. Farmers have options to sell their stuff at different places for different prices. We do not have that option.
@@CuttingEdgeLogging_Thomas More alike than different. I’m from a logging family but been dairy farming for 20 years. We don’t all get (or accept) subsidies and acting like we do is a disservice to all the producers in this country that are getting the shaft. Actually, in my area the low grade market has been supported by subsidized rates paid to the biomass power plants to keep them running. Dairy Farmers of America has a monopoly on my market just like IP did when my dad was trying to support us on pine pulp.
The mills don't want the job of logging or trucking because they can't do it profitably themselves! Grandpa always said "you can't work a mule if you don't feed him" . Maybe they will wake up to this fact.
Let's hope things change soon! For now, keep cutting brothers
We are all hurting at least those that care what happens to our friends and family and for people who we don't even know. God Bless You All and remember we need a change from top to bottom of all aspects of the life we're living in 2022🙏. Please remember we should have each other's back but our country has abandoned us we have lost the respect of our elected officials they only respect greed and control plus Power.
we always been cut out and pushed out of the way,, 'i'm native'', for this savage rampage of what is suppose to be big billion industry,, machines that destroy and them loggers paying for it,, riiiight, is not right they should have made the dough and used it as a grant to build other business to strive from,, mini malls shopping complex, small apartment building,, if ya'l wondering (with this southern accent' look whos talking) it's exactly what I did with the scrap metal logging left behind.. one of them was'nt even broken,, just had to revert wiring back to original position, ye don't really have to destroy too much to build something else,,, no sense in wasting lifetime of work just for artheritis.
Amen,!!!
the same thing is happening here in New Zealand
Just like the farmer, buys everything at retail and sells everything at wholesale
Great message. God help the USA in these created troubles. We need to figure out who is actually behind the hideous acts of the present administration
Obama is running the country. He's getting all his radical agenda goals accomplished without taking the heat. He just tells Joe what to do and say
Farming is kinda like that. Not just loggers and truckers.
My dad was talking about shutting down yesterday
"There is one who scatters, yet increases more; And there is one who witholds more than is right, But it leads to poverty" prov. 11-24
Grow better Trees! Of course that pine ain't worth nothing! They got endless miles of pine and spruce in Canada! Plus all the bamboo coming out of Asia. Grow hardwoods. Get smaller equipment. The sawmills around here have their own logging crews and have their own land. American pulp wood cutters are not going to be around for much longer. Smarten up or start stacking lumber at the mill!
Hello Cutting Edge Logging LLC:
2:58
Not true!!!
The agricultural industry comes to mind. Farmers are price takers, set by the buyers, too.
Commercial fishing is the same deal for independent fishermen.
My father was paid a better logging rate in 1956 than I was last year.
My fellow Conservatives vote for "capitalism baby" "the free market via supply and demand" until their going gets tough. That letter is nothing but deeply veiled socialism and shameless hypocrisy. Bernie and AOC would be so proud.
So what are you going to do to help the loggers in your area? I'm one of them. We've had no substantial pay raise in years. Will you be the one to finally stand up to the mills and low ballers? Can you be the one get the major haulers of our area to shutdown for final change? Will Bennett, Ricky Day, Broadway or HK shut down operations? We need a true leader in the Piney Woods Outlaw area! Will you be the first to lead the way? I'm driver now but was once a woodsman and I can tell you that pay sucks here. The trucks suck and wait times in the mills are grotesque!!! Be a LEADER not a POSTER!!!
Before you can lead you need a following, I’m working on step one. I am a board member of the Louisiana Logging Association and have the backing of the American Logging Council. We are doing everything we can to create change. Shutting down isn’t the answer, we must unify and act as one.
I honestly feel more is wrong from our industry because loggers and some truckers tell their foresters “we’re ok, it’s tight but we’re ok” or start working till dark every day.
The first week of July there will be a meeting in town and we need every trucker and logger there. Keep a eye out for details on that to come.
But I promise, there are lots of us trying, we’re not talking for attention. We just need everyone else to stand with us when needed.
@@CuttingEdgeLogging_Thomas I'll stand with you and do what is necessary. You have a following but many of us are frustrated with the industry as a whole. Many of us are generational in the industry and remember when it provided a great living for a family. The days of pinching pennies until the Buffalo craps are gone. People need leadership as to the direction to take. It seems complaining to owners of logging companies is getting nowhere and more loggers and drivers are starting to talk about walking off and blocking mills and jobs. The woods used to provide a great life for the workers and families. How is diplomacy going to solve this issue when Florien alone makes millions extra in a year while stomping a the family man at the bottom of the totem pole. 16 hours a day with 3 children and a wife that was fired for a shot is kinda hard to swallow for $200 a day. Time for mills to wake up and pay correctly or run dry.
Thank God I can set my own fees.
If you sell to a mill, you can only set your fees but so much. They’re only going to pay you X amount and not a penny more.
@@CuttingEdgeLogging_Thomas
Indeed, but my hardwood log buyer upped my white oak by 100/mbf and I never asked. He knew I was working a thin margin on this job.
What I meant was, I buy my stumpage myself.
I pay as much as I can, but I always buy it at a rate that leaves me what I need. Every job is different, so I adjust.
In the long run I make the same each month no matter wood quality, quantity, or terrain.
At least, that is the goal.
Hope they listen before it's too late
Your on the money 💰 or should I say on the change we need help
You state that the timber industry is the only one that lets the buyer dictate the price. The dairy industry runs on that same model. Farmers take whatever they are paid. And worse, they can not hold or store there product for any amount of time. They can not stop milking a cow and wait for better prices. There pay changes every two weeks. Im not taking away from the logging industry only trying to shed light on other industrys that struggle.
Can someone ELI5 this to me?
I'm way out of my depth with this but am really interested. Thanks!
it is a shame at what has happened
I don't suspect that this would happen accidentally. I do suspect that this is all going according to plan, and you ain't in it.
Y’all deal with a commodity.
That’s always been the lowest common denominator in the business world.
Understand, when a builder goes to the lumber yard, and requests some 4x4s, plywood or finishing lumber, he don’t really know where it comes from, nor does he care, long as it meets a basic specifications.
Y’all be better off sending junior to university for a biology, accounting or engineering degree, and working for a large corporation what processes lumber. That’s where the money is.
Not gonna matter because if they put the loggers out of business, they won’t have any lumber to process.
I remember watching him and his show on TV like I don't know 15 20 years ago and he was always belly aching then how he was just barely making it and how he was going to have to shut down at any moment. That got tiring to hear show after show. Listen times are tough for pretty much all of us and only going to get tougher. For people that understand we are living at the cusp of Revelation chapter 6 of the Bible. It's exciting times but trying times. Call on Jesus Christ if you haven't already cuz that's the only way you're going to make it through and out.
FJB
Trump 2024
Otherwise you are just a slave to the system.
FJB