The Problem With the Death Penalty | Law & Order
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The detectives all react differently after witnessing a killer's execution.
From "Aftershock" (Season 6, Episode 23): Briscoe, Curtis, McCoy and Kincaid (Jerry Orbach, Benjamin Bratt, Sam Waterston, Jill Hennessy) witness an execution and try to come to terms with their roles in the killing of another human being.
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I was a witness to a state execution one time. My experience was not like this. The person being executed cussed everyone out for about 12 minutes and then the nightly news reported the execution and said the person declared his innocence. The family of the person being executed sat in the room with the rest of us witnesses.
Was the person declaring his innocence while cussing? If so, kudos to the reporter for summarizing it 😂
Who was it then?
the problem is people think there's a problem with it. a tiny percentage of those killed on death penalty are innocent. and when the evidence is so strong such as the parkland shooting, it's a travesty when people decide against it on the pretense of moral or religious grounds.
sounds about right for the media
Virginia did not allow for relatives of the condemned inmate to witness their execution.
Does anybody remember an episode where an innocent man was executed after being framed for a crime he didn't commit , then later on the DA's office attempted to try the actual perpetrator for the framed man's death *in other words the DA wanted to prosecute the actual person for the murder of the innocent man the state executed*
Wow that was not easy to read.
@@snappie4180 was trying to explain without being confusing but the point is the DA wanted to prosecute the actual perpetrator for the murder of the innocent man the state executed
@D Sullivan smh like seriously did my comment say that or was I asking if anyone remembered that episode kmdt read and understand
@D Sullivan In that case sorry about the way I responded and to answer your question it's likely the DA would have every legal right to prosecute the actual perpetrator for the deaths of his first victim as well as the innocent man the state executed because of him ( the actually killer )
@D Sullivan - if the state secured a conviction against one man for a crime, switching to claiming another really did it after the execution is...interesting.
In the real world, most prosecutors would rather let a guilty man go free than admit a wrongful conviction.
They may not agree on everything, but those two were always looking out for eachother. Admirable, to say the least.
and we all know why
tee hee
@@electroskates2434 you're right if I think what you mean. Jack had a habit of sleeping with his assistants. So, they said. Claire said someone up the echelon told her that the two characters did sleep together.
You can definitely tell how much Kincaid meant to McCoy and how much it devastated him to lose her as well. Even if it wasn't the same with the others after her, McCoy was still bonded strongly to each of them. Losing Kincaid made what happened to Borgia-who probably reminded him a lot of her-even more devastating-and it was awful enough as is. Ross and Carmichael were like sisters to him and he had immense respect for both Southerlyn and Rubirosa as well.
@@l.plantagenet it was his predecessor, not mcoy. I'm drawing a blank on his name but he was played by Michael Moriarty.
@@commanex Stone never had a problem like that. Jack McCoy was the one who had affairs with his assistants.
The whole thing about them losing control of their actions being cruel and we don't do that is inaccurate. We give them a paralytic so that they don't move while the real drug that kills them does its work. The paralytic makes it so they can't move or breathe or tell you if they are in pain or the execution is going wrong. Its no humane it's just done to make it look pretty or "peaceful" for the audience or the people performing the execution.
I mean.....12g slug to the head would be quick, painless and cheaper. Make POS dig the grave themselves by hand have them jump in then shoot. Get some convicts from local lock up to fill the grave in for free labor and as a way to "scare them straight".....saves time and money for the state. Get rid of death row as well. Once guilty verdict is read go straight to the cementary
Typically midazolam is the first drug administered to put them to sleep and then the paralytic is used. Finally potassium chloride is used to stop the heart altogether. The person is unconscious by that point and is not capable of feeling any pain.
Nah he deserves it nobody told him to kill someone or potentially more ppl I can literally feel no empathy with ppl like this
If he's truly guilty, I don't care if they saw him in half. Lengthwise.
@Caryn Gibson I have no problem with the death penalty. Evelin the Bible is ok with it. Genesis 9:6 whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
Jill Hennessy's last episode as ADA Claire Kincaid, wished she didn't leave, but I understood Hennessy's contract was up for renewal & she decided to depart to pursue other projects
When she died... I was very saddened. She happens to be an identical twin. Her sister Jacquie stepped in for her as Claire once, uncredited.
How did that work out?
I haven't soon the actress in a long time.. she must have quite acting
@@devonmatthews8197 That's probably for the best.
@@skyeangelofdeath7363
Why do you say that
My only issue with the death penalty is the fact that innocent people have been convicted. However, some people are guilty of crimes so heinous that they deserve to leave the world in a much more awful way than that
Absolutely
I agree. That's the only thing wrong with the death penalty, that incompetent people of the law get innocent people killed.
I agree... But in cases where it's premeditated, and no doubt of guilt (like Mark David Chapman, Sirhan Sirhan and Son of Sam Berkowitz), I have no problem snuffing them out.
We are going t5o kill innocent people as long as the death penalty exists the only question is how many. The whole reason why killing someone costs more than keeping them in prison for life is to try and make sure someone innocent is not executed. Its still not 100% fool proof though which is why I argue against the death penalty.
Execution is wrong no matter guilty or innocent we need to be better than that Norway abolished the DP and so did Canada now it's our turn let's learn to forgive
The biggest problem with the death penalty is that you can't correct a mistake.
Which is an argument for more just rules of evidence, more just trials, etc. NOT for not justly punishing criminals.
And execution is the just penalty for murder.
Just like birth
@@PanhandleFrank no, execution is never a just penalty.
@@keenanloucks769 "execution is never a just penalty."
By what standard of justice?
@@PanhandleFrank
The… ENTIRE rest of the Western World.
This episode was harsh. Seeing all the characters not really solving a crime but just dealing with the emotional aftermath (or Aftershock, ba-dum-tis) really was something else.
Especially the last scene of this episode.
What?
Ba-dum-tis. 🥁
They needed to do it more often. The story of the week format can get stale. All of the investigations and trials are sped up to make it look like the entire process takes a matter of days and the full resources of all of the departments are deployed in all cases. I liked when they re-visited a case or showed the long term consequences on the characters. It helped that they rotated characters in and out as it often happens in the real world.
This was a great episode. The first episode that actually went outside of the established episode format.
One of my favorite episode
Only problem why on Law and order has the death penalty when The state of New York does not have the death penalty
Agreed. One of my absolute favorites with a devastating ending.
@@michaeldemarco7193 This episode aired in 1996 and NY abolished the Death penalty in 2004
What's even more devastating about this episode, other than the ending? THAT PEACOCK DOESN'T AIR IT!!!! What's up with that? I want it!! #BringInTheFirst12
the first 12 were crude
What are "the first 12"? The hashtag doesn't register to anything when you click on it.🤷♀️
@@heathernks8 seasons
@@heathernks8 not the point lmao. They’re just saying to bring back the first 12
YES!!!! Finally, I'm not the only one saying #BringInTheFirst12
Just saw this last night. Jack was the only one who wasn’t upset by what he saw. At least that’s how it was written. Wonder how many times this does take place in the real world - attorneys and such who prosecuted the case viewing it.
Some prosecuting attorneys go to the eventual execution. Prince William County Commonwealth Attorney Paul Ebert was in attendance for the Virginia executions of two of the men whom he sent to death row - sniper John Allen Muhammad in 2009 and Paul Powell the following year.
Jack was very upset by what he saw. He doesn't feel bad for Mickey Scott or anything, he was an admitted murderer who was unrepentant. Jack has no time to feel sympathy for anyone like that. The execution, however, reminds him of the last person who died right in front of him: his father, the only person Jack will admit scares him, even 10 years after his death. That's why afterwards he is terse and somewhat cold to Claire, his work partner not to mention the woman he loves, goes and shows no type of mercy when negotiating the plea deals, leaves work to go get drunk with strangers, and winds up completely wasted sitting on a bar stool and very nearly in tears as he recalls his father's last breath. Compounded by the situation is that Jack's dad wasn't exactly a good guy either, apparently physically abusive towards his wife and children and completely unwilling to accept anything but 100% success from his son. This episode starts a gradual decline for Jack, as for much of the next 2 seasons he becomes more ruthless than ever and comes very close to becoming a flat out villain rather than the anti-hero he was at the beginning of his run.
Poor Lenny. That final scene with him in this episode was rough and not one I would want to experience.
He was too drunk to have any emotion about what happened. Still, never good.
only thing really unrealistic is them actually seeing an execution in New York. last execution in New York State was 1963, and the abolished the death penalty all together in 1984, and this episode is a decade or more later
Governor George Pataki brought it back in NY in the 90s, but nobody was executed before it was abolished again.
The death penalty was reinstated by Governor George Pataki in 1994, a new lethal injection gurney was set up at Green Haven Correctional Facility near Stormville. However, no executions ever occurred and the death penalty was declared unconstitutional by the Court of Appeals in 2008.
They brought it back for a few years in the 90s, no executions in those years though.
Huh.
Colorado has had it for decades, and in that time has executed one person.
@@pokemagetech Colorado abolished the death penalty in March, 2020, a result of becoming a blue state.
They make it seem like the whole process from arrest to execution is just a few months, instead of the decades it usually takes. They said something about the convict not letting his lawyers get in the way, but I'm not sure it works like that. Most appeals in capital cases are automatic, mandatory, and non-waivable.
Agree...they would have likely retired since these cases can drag on for decades. Also, the other thing that I find a bit unrealistic about this, is that she seems pretty distraught by witnessing the execution. However, investigators in big urban cities would have seen terrible crime scenes/evidence involving women, adolescents, small children, and babies being killed by blunt force, gunshots, strangulation, dismemberment, etc. I can't imagine they're likely to feel an ounce of empathy for a convicted killer who ran dry on appeals...especially by lethal injection.
@@SSS-bd6li Yes, it's easy to forget, as most of these posters have, that this is a Hollywood depiction of fiction.
I liked the fresh ink on the guy’s arm
Each state has a different yet very similar process. The first few are automatic. I believe one is just basically reviewing the case making sure everything was done right and so on etc. Once those are over with they can toss their appeals away along with the clemency hearings. A few inmates over the years have done it. It still takes years to go through the process but they won't be sitting on death row for 20 plus years waiting.
We are talking about a TV show where- theoretically at least- episodes go from the discovery of the victim to a trial verdict in a matter of weeks. The appeals were probably declined when this episode begins.
This was a great episode! Transitional for the show.
I forgot how cold Jack McCoy was back in the day. He just came from watching a man's life leave him, covered Claire, and gave every defendent the worst punishment for the crime they were accused like its just another day at the office. Jack McCoy is a legend.
He could probably prosecute Jason Vorhees, Freddy Cruger, Pennywise the clown, and even Jaws for their murders and when he sleeps, he gives his nightmares nightmares.
@@detmstr341 You already know.
I don’t know if “cold” is the right word, but this is a great observation. Jack can’t fall apart, can’t hesitate, after the years on the job he knows he can’t. I think “stoic” would be a much better way to describe him.
@@stefanie7823 Good point. Stoic and cold behaviors sometimes seems similar. It's easy to confuse the two.
You still got a sense of his humanity back then though. Not to say you don't now because of course you do, but after Kincaid got killed, McCoy was never the same again.
I want to support death penalty but with so many in America alone being sent to jail for crimes they didn’t do and executed. I can’t as long as the current system that’s so broken remains.
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Yet the most the anti death penalty crowd can generate on that front is "strong" "evidence" that some 20 people of the 1547 people executed since 1976 might have been innocent as of 2022.
The only person that should be trusted in executing people is me I’ll know who’s deserving to die or not
Also lethal injection is actually awful: th-cam.com/video/0lTczPEG8iI/w-d-xo.html
We’d be better off adopting the approach the French used until the 1970s, after which I’m fairly sure they abolished capital punishment entirely. You know. French Revolution.
So many? it's more like so few... that's the point, Dol you think the majority of people in prison or on death row are innocent? or do you think the innocent people are much fewer and further between? lol
“I bet you get a real kick out of that” was added because they’re was a survey done on people who give the death penalty and 74% said they did get a kick out of it
*there
You just made that up. Don't be stupid
It is one of the most incredible episodes of that program that I have ever watched.
It’s Sheriff Andy Bellefleur from True Blood!
That's what I was thinking but I wasn't sure
Such a special episode 💔
No doubt the best episode of the series. Prove me wrong
it received the highest rating (9.1 I think)
agreed absolutely
Can't, that's entirely subjective.
This just shows us that taking a life never comes without cost no matter the reason. Which is why death penalty should be a thing of the past
Favorite episode of the series
2:12 the sound the victim's families wanted to hear when john gacy took his last breath
I believe that there are human beings that perpetrate such heinous crimes that they deserve to be executed ( serial killers for instance). However, there is a long history of innocent people being executed, so for that reason I am against the death penalty.
I agree, plus it costs more for the death penalty then life in prison.
I agree as well. As long as there is the chance of innocent people being convicted I am against it.
It also gives the worst criminals a way out, instead of life imprisonment (which usually costs less, too).
I assume you're a grown up human, and as such you should be able to handle the death penalty, even if some innocent die, even if it is you or I. That's called being an adult. Criminals shouldn't be the only ones who get to kill innocent people.
@@TheLochs the death penalty is far more about Justice than cost, no civil society that loves it's people can exist without the penalty.
@@JamieAllen1977 what justice is there in killing someone vs life in prison?
You can tell this dude is terrified by his actions anger is the only way some people can face that fear
Why are you guys putting up clips of episodes from seasons that are not available?!
Much, much, much too clean and slow for all the pain these people cause their entire life.
At least we get to kill them. In some states, we just let them live the rest of their lives on the tax payers dime.
Sorry but the DP is premeditated murder there is no justification for it it's vengeance nothing more nothing less period
While we're talking about this episode: does Kincaid meet her father, or just the guy her mother married after her father? That detail was so vague at the end of that particular scene.
step father
@@electroskates2434 that was my first guess but I was never really sure, and either way, leaving that detail so ambiguous didn't seem to have any point to me.
@@rsybing I don't think it was actually ever confirmed on screen but according to sites like fandom wiki it says he is her step father (apparently it was revealed but I never caught that)
@@rsybing
You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, peasant.
I do think a community can make these life-or-death situations in extreme circumstances (like serial killers), but I'm definitely uncomfortable with the state having the power to put people to death. In a corrupted political system, that can easily lead to political killings that are "laundered" through a crooked legal system. It's happened before, in other countries.
Is it the state that decides if someone gets the death penaty or does a jury decide?
@@932511ajmIt's up to a jury to determine guilt. Sentencing is ultimately the decision of the judge, and what the sentencing requirements are of that particular state.
in the US of A too... think how many black guys were executioned due to racism, especially in the states of the south. Don't think that political murders happen just outside of Murica
Thing is, then you get examples like Ed Kemper, who genuinely seems to regret his actions, tried to atone for them and since his crimes and initial incarceration has done a lot of good. I am not saying that people that have committed horrendous crimes do not deserve punishment, but ultimately the death penalty serves no real purpose other than satisfying our lust for revenge. If someone is too dangerous to release, keep them locked up, if not, then let them go eventually.
@@SgtPepper271294 Prisoners cost money. Their lives are practically worthless. I would rather have that money in some oligarchs pocket than have it be spent on keeping some murderer or pedophile alive.
Edit: peppermantwist is based im
The problem with the Death Penalty is the hundreds of people who have been proven innocent after having been sentenced to Death........
That’s an argument for better standards of justice, rules of evidence and testimony, and punishing perjurers with the same sentence that the accused was facing, NOT for elimination of the death penalty.
@@PanhandleFrank No. Elimination of the Death Penalty is the best "fix".
@@quasar8898 What is your justification for eliminating capital punishment even when the murderer is caught red-handed, dead-to-rights? (Confession + witnesses + evidence all point toward guilt w/ZERO possibility he's innocent.)
@@PanhandleFrank Because the US "Justice" system is anything but just. We have seen in numerous cases- unqualified lawyers and judges, untrained or corrupt police, unskilled or corrupt csi labs, coerced confessions, multiple witnesses committing perjury......I can go on. The Death Penalty is permanent. While incarceration allows both punishment and the possibility of undoing mistaken prosecution. Btw- I spent six years as an elected District Magistrate.
@@quasar8898 "I spent six years as an elected District Magistrate." Congratulations.
But everything you just wrote supports my original remark -- that we need better standards of justice, rules of evidence and testimony, and 9especially) punishing perjurers with the same sentence the accused faced. You falsely accuse someone UNDER OATH, you will take the punishment THEY would have received.
Incidentally, you never actually answered my question:
What is your justification for eliminating capital punishment *even when the murderer is caught red-handed, dead-to-rights? (Confession + witnesses + evidence all point toward guilt w/ZERO possibility he's innocent.)*
Doing away with the death penalty in questionable / dubious cases (e.g. conviction by purely circumstantial evidence) doesn't necessitate doing away with it in clear cases of guilt.
Lol I've never seen a video this freshly posted
This was one of the most unique episodes of Law and Order, the ending well..........
One of the most underrated episodes
I remember this episode. McCoy breaks character at the bar and lets it slip his dad beat his family.
The best episode of the OG Law & Order.
#BringInTheFirst12 DANGGONE IT PEACOCK!
9.1 Rating
Nice
Honestly I always Thought the only way the death penalty would possibly work would be that it would have a higher standard to prove than beyond a reasonable doubt in court and you get one speak and after that Singular appeal the very next day you are dragged into a designated room and shot unceremoniously because the only way that it would be a real deterrent is to make us fast and immediate.
That’s pretty much what they do in North Korea, China, and Iran.
This is one of the finest episodes in Drama TV history
I don’t get ppl like him. U decided to kill someone but get mad if u get the same treatment. U deserve every single bit of it
Yep.
Personally I'd rather get death by bullet to the head than the lethal injection.
Wrong the DP is premeditated murder there is no justification NONE be better and forgive otherwise be plagued with the guilt for your vengeance
He believed his victims deserved it too. How are you different then?
@@littlebitofhope1489 he's insane, for one.
Don’t remember the actors name on the table that they put down, but I believe he played the part of the husband of the one female officer on Third Watch, Officer Faith Yokas.
He also played the Sheriff in true blood
Chris Bauer, who is among the actors who've had the trifecta of appearances on the L&O franchise.
@@fromthehaven94 killer-victim-cop trifecta?
@@otaviofrn_adv No, not that specific. One episode as a guest star on the original L&O, at least one appearance on SVU, and then one on Criminal Intent.
@@fromthehaven94 oh, now I get it. I watch much L&O content here. If I start to watch the whole universe I would give up all the other needed "meanial tasks", as Kramer used to put it
As long as you kill the right target, for the right people, for the right reasons, at the right time, it's moral, lawful and the "right" thing to do. That's the whole premise of Hitman.
No it's not moral cause your dealing vengeance and taking away someone else's baby to make up for the live/s taken execution is premeditated murder plain and simple there is no justification NONE
@@rtk985 Correct. However as seen in Jack's response as well as the other cops, they think this is justified. It shouldn't take something wrong in that chain of ingredients I mentioned for people to realise they were involved in ending someone's life. This whole scene would be different if they executed the wrong man.
But for many, the "why" is more important and more powerful than the "what" in guiding their morality
here's the thing: right is a very open concept. For some, right is helping the elderly. For others, is whoever pays the most
Do you always get your morals from video games?
The problem with this clip is that it doesn't touch on the biggest problem with the Death Penalty.
What if they got it wrong? If the guy didn't do it and they killed an innocent man.
All of the scenes here focused on the conscience of people who took out a truly unrepentant murderer, even frame it as the killer having it too easy.
the law doesnt deal with what ifs.
@@powerhouseinco9664 but the lawmakers do. The point of agreeing or disagreeing with the death penalty is to decide whether we should change the law.
The law does not deal in what ifs, as you said. If a person is convinced incorrectly, they will be executed just the same as a real killer.
I believe L&O touched on the execution of innocent people in another episode
@@kinyutaka doesnt matter what the lawmakers think. The law assumes that if one is proven guilty even after exhausting all possible avenues of appeal then, you are guilty as charged. No what ifs!
@@powerhouseinco9664 But it does matter what the lawmakers think.
They make the laws.
If innocent people are getting executed because of flaws elsewhere in the system, then maybe it would be a good idea to stop executing people.
If you just say "that is the law, nothing to be done", then you have already lost.
The problem with the death penalty is that you only get to do it once
Let’s bring these back to public town squares for all to witness
Nice last words…”Do it!!!”
My favorite episode
Oh no! Frank Sobotka! Where are his union brothers?
they're dead ... too
i don’t think the death penalty is fair because for me
it’s given to the most heinous criminals who have committed the worst crimes, but it gives them an out. they don’t get to feel guilty or think about their actions or even live with them. they get to be terrible and then dip from the planet.
But innocent people have been executed, and death row can take decades before they’re actually executed. I think if they plead guilty and there’s complete evidence like dna that’s indisputable then they should be executed immediately no need to even wait. But they get to appeal over and over before they’re even given a date of execution and they can still file like up until they’re actually dead, it’s a really crappy system
@@Sara-xk1ns itd save millions of dollars, wont have to pay for food, housing, but it should only be used when there absolutely sure he did it, which if thats the case there should be a backroom in the court where they just put 2 in the back of their head and be done with it, alot less money spent on prisoners
@@Sara-xk1ns I believe there's been cases where there was DNA and a confusion but it turned out the person was innocent.
People "confess" to crimes because the police gas light them in to believing they're already screwed so "confessing" is the only logical thing to do because it will give them a lighter sentence they then use that "confession" to convict them
The real evil don't care, don't feel guilt or remorse regardless. If you think there's an afterlife they go to hell if they're innocent they go to heaven if neither well they go into infinite maw waiting for all of us
They don’t feel guilt or “think about that they do” serial killers child killers terrorists.
I remember watching this episode on A&E channel years ago
Showing episodes with assistant DA's Robinette, Kincaid, and Ross. When TNT started airing the original Law & Order, they included Carmichael and Southerlyn.
OMG AFTERSHOCK
In reality it’s not a 40 seconds thing. And not a whimper and it’s over thing.
Countless innocent people have been tortured to death by states.
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New York didn't have any active executions back then
it was made legal in 1995
@@electroskates2434 as a token. Not really something expected to be carried ou and never was
@@Omego2K .-.
This episode isn't on Peacock
Who’s the actor who asks about the curtain?
Upon trial between 7 soldiers, capital punishment, or death can be a recurring option.
If I recall, this is the episode where
*Spoiler*
Kincaid is killed by a drunk driver.
@@lockrobster7928 Where??
yes, but I can't find the clip, sadge
@@JasenJohn someone put it up but then removed it but I did find another but with Spanish overdub
This was Jill Hennessey's last episode.
Wish those of us that have nothing to offer to humanity could do this
I know it's a show, but doesn't the curtain have to be open by law?? I mean, the witnesses are required by law to be there to see it. If the curtain is closed, what's the point??
Yes, then they wouldnt be witnesses !
@@axiomist4488 I was just saying bc the guy asked if he wanted the curtain open or closed
In most states, the prison regulations require that the execution be visible to the witnesses present.
I know of only two instances where judicial executions occurred without any witnesses.
One was an accidental oversight. In May, 2021, Texas executed inmate Quintin Jones at the Walls Unit of Huntsville. However, the TDCJ forgot to bring the witnesses to the execution into the execution chamber witness area.
In 1992, in a very rare execution in Wyoming, condemned inmate Mark Hopkinson had under the law, the right to choose all the witnesses to his execution. While strapped to the gurney in the makeshift execution chamber, Hopkinson decided he did not want any of his chosen witnesses to view the actual execution. So it proceeded without their presence. The witnesses were brought in after the execution had concluded to see Hopkinson's body.
3:27+ "Ah, you FUCKA!"
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Is the actor who played the person getting executed the same actor who played Frank Sobotka of the Wire?
Yeah I think it’s him
Honestly, I wouldn't consider either meatloaf and mash or pizza with sausage and peppers for my last meal request.
Who the hell takes a seat belt off like that?
How the hell did he do that?
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I am of the strange opinion of being for and against executions
For: it’s proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, the persons crimes demand he/she have no place amongst the living - and that it should be done effectively, fast, and to the point
Here I stand for firing squads, multiple shots aimed for the vital organs(if done right near instant death); the single shot to the head. And even beheading, a single slash with a sword/blade. The quick drop hanging if done right can be as instant.
Hanging (slow hang), death by injection, electrocution - all take too long and prolong death for the sake of weak stomachs and often do not react the same to each person.
I am opposed to execution of it being used as a deterrent, history has proven it does not work. It should be used as its name implies, an end.
The man getting executed ends his life quoting his favorite line from Star Wars
If I ever murdered someone, I would fully expect karma.
Sorry but I don't feel bad for the dude once Van Buren reveals what he did.
I'd have brought popcorn
The death penalty is the ultimate form of discrimination. -Thurgood Marshall
Would have been cool if they played Pink Floyd's 'Comfortably Numb' during the execution.
Damm. The only thing that stood out about this was the end. I really miss using a landline 🙁
Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t. What do you do with killers, rapists, and pedophiles? Kill ‘em? Lock ‘em away forever? Someone’s gotta pay for their food and living. And it sure as hell won’t be me.
Same as all other taxes. You can try and make it so that other people’s taxes pay for stuff you like but they don’t. And they can do the same to you. If enough people want part of your government’s taxes to pay for something you hate, isn’t it their right?
Also executions waste way more tax money surprisingly
@@yucol5661 It only waste more tax money because of the time spent on death row. Like all the death row inmates of today.
It's waaaaay more expensive to execute them
"The degree of civilisation in a society is revealed by entering its prisons." - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
I'd much rather pay to have someone locked up for life than pay for them to be put to death.
Have them work, they can pay for themselves like the rest of us
Simple problem: there's always a chance you get the wrong person charged and end up killing an innocent person.
If I had a dollar for every instance of a person serving 10-20 year sentences for crimes they didn't commit, I'd be very rich.
“tell you what they should ban cars in manhattan” really ate those words.
Thats the dude that played the sheriff in True Blood and he played the killer in the movie 8mm.
I hate the death penalty
Many people have sympathy for the murders on death row. They believe the death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment.
Murders give their victims the death penalty and its ALWAYS cruel and unusual punishment.
Save your pity for the victim.
You do realise we are making ourselves killers for doing that.
@@hologammer1133 A Police Officer fires his weapon in the line of duty and an armed assailant dies.
A Fire Fighter arrives at a fire and people are in the building. They cannot get to the trapped people and the victims die.
A person is driving down a street and as they are entering the intersection a car races inside. Someone dies.
A doctor is performing surgery and the patient dies.
A Soldier is manning his post when someone tries to force their way in. Someone dies.
In each of these scenarios a person dies because of an act someone does. These scenarios are meant to explain that people kill people all the time.
We know that their is an abuse of power by the Police. We know there are drunk drivers or drivers who Don't follow the rules.
We know people die from medical malpractice. We know that military personnel are trained to kill.
Tell me what is your point?
@@paulacornelison243 Point is that all those situations have something together. However the death penalty is often times a cruel method to kill a killer. We are not killing a officer whos being attacked. We are not killing a fire fighter because they cant get into the building and help the people escape. We are killing someone who had killed someone else and doing a type of revenge move. Instead we should lock em up forever and give them the worst food and living conditions. The death penalty is more or less a way to escape out of the prison for the murderer
@@hologammer1133 Prisoners are being brutalized by fellow inmates and sometimes guards. Tell me is that easier than death?
@@paulacornelison243 Well that my friend is the lesson they would get. They would only learn from their mistakes with those measurements.
This is when law and order was 🔥
Cesare Beccaria, the "father" of abolitionism, writes in his writing that death penalty is useless for the society, and it may make the people to have pity for the executed, with life imprisonment there are a continuous reminder to the society the crimes that he's done.
I don't think there's anything wrong with the death penalty as long as it it's the crime. Murder harm of any child whatsoever with intention. Serial killers
One of the reasons why we have so many criminals on the states is mainly because first we stopped taking everyone to church. Second we told everybody they have freedom to do whatever the hell they want regardless of how damaging it is or not.
Allow offended offenders to come out and commit crimes again and again
Nothing wrong with the death penalty when we get the right guy 🤷♂️
Thats the whole issue of the death penalty, getting the right guy everytime without a single mistake.
Hey it's Andy from true blood cool
Frank Sobotka was executed? What season of The Wire is this?
If your guilty it’s to much of a painless death and way more compasión then most of the victims felt the reason I don’t agree with the death penalty is bc of all the innocent people who have been sentenced to death.
Same. If there's no 100% certainty, then there shouldn't be a death penalty.
However some are 100% like the recent mass shooter.
@@JoybuzzerX it's still wrong cause you're stealing life from another family be better forgive or be plagued with guilt for your vengeance
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Though at the same time with some of these people, their family probably considers them dead anyway. These are people society probably has no hope for anymore. So it's probably this or they'll be put in a tiny cage for life. And you know the system does not treat the ones in it kindly.
The problem with the death penalty is that we don’t use it often enough.
I agree
Just like North Korea, China, and Iran… ya, that sounds like a really great group of countries to align more with.
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Gi Gi was a cop, before becoming a member of the Soparono family
For the death penalty to truly be effective at stripping the condemned of their humanity and dignity they must be done in public before a crowd of angry jeering locals who have every reason to want to see him/her dead.
The point of execution is not to strip the convicted of their humanity. Quite the opposite. The point is for a bearer of the imago dei who has ended the life of ANOTHER imago dei to forfeit his life at the hands of STILL ANOTHER imago dei.
"Surely for your lifeblood I will demand a reckoning; from the hand of every beast I will require it, and from the hand of man. From the hand of every man’s brother I will require the life of man. Whoever sheds man’s blood, by man his blood shall be shed; for in the image of God He made man." ~ Genesis 9:5-6
Why even have a death penalty...let the worst ones rot in solitary confinement.
That requires more effort/money/time. Which is a part of the reason why some people prefer the death penalty since it uses up less resources.
@@SRFAA That argument falls flat with the whole that it can take decades for a death row inmate to be executed because of all the appeals plus the cost of said drugs which nearly all are procured from Europe. We had Death row inmates die of old age so what's the difference there anyways. And the cost of one execution equals about 17 years for normal prisoner upkeep. Also one needs to find a doctor who is willing to do it which is very difficult because a lot of doctors now just refuse and trying to force them to do it with a court order could easily turn into a lengthy process.
@@kraigisboss That doesn't make the argument fall flat. It just means the process of killing the individual is longer than it would ideally be. There are improvements that can be made.
Fred, nooo!! Ironically Fred's ex wife Faith made a great speech about the death penalty.
This was a season finale where the lover of McCoy also his fellow Assistant DA died due to a drunk driver.
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The problem with the death penalty is that isn't applied NEARLY often enough.
There would be little to no crime if the death penalty was used more often
Capital punishment should be abolished. It shouldn't be up to the government to sanctify murder. That makes them no better than the murderer.
There's no point in worrying about the death penalty when the police are executing people in no-knock search warrants every day. Death Penalty cases get reviewed hundreds of times by many layers of lawyers and judges before the person is put to death. Lets worry about police killing people inside their own homes for no reason, first.
@@MrErizid Biden is working on that. He is as we speak passing legislation that'll put an end to thug cops. The police force has no place for trigger happy MAGAt's.
I agree with you, I am against it too. But isn't war state sanctioned murder?
@@rhiannongreen2642 War is alot more complex than that.
@@rhiannongreen2642 No, that's just a conflict, foreign or civil. Military executions on the other hand...
What I never understand as a European is that the USA seems to have no problem executing people, but euthanasia is not allowed. And I am happy we don’t have the death penalty here.
Even though there are monsters in my personal life that murdered my loved ones. One is now about to die in the UK for murdering many women. The fact he is still alive allows justice to ask him on his death bed (with luckily painful cancer) if he can give more information about his crimes. And I would not want any innocent to be executed.
Life in prison, especially in solitary confinement can be even more harsh than the death penalty.
I know one thing for sure the guy strapped to that gurney will never hurt anyone again, and before you even say it putting someone in prison for life means they have nothing left to lose so they might as well just kill some random guy who doesn’t want to get raped. Bottom line is people get murdered in prison every day and who’s doing those killings it’s not the guy in there on a minor drug charge that’s for sure.
I know this is just a TV show but the punishment vs. the crime is unfair. Criminals are always treated humanly but the criminals treats their victims like pieces of shits like nothing like the victims are not living human beings with dignity and souls!!!
Why is it we can take our beloved animals in and they get a shot and they are gone. Why do they have to go through all of this rigamarole for a bad person?
Looks like for fun even
They dealt with the death penalty earlier this season (Season 6) in Savages.....(SPOILER ALERT)
A money-laundering accountant shoots and kills an undercover cop on his trail. McCoy and Kincaid strongly disagree on whether or not Paul Sandig (the killer) should get the death penalty.
McCoy wants him to fry, as does Briscoe and Curtis. Kincaid is dead set against it (she's against capital punishment in general, she didn't even think double wife killer Michael Dobson deserved to die later on in Encore).
Schiff admittingly confides in one of his colleagues he's not comfortable with the death penalty, but he gives into public opinion and informs his assistant DA's that they will be seeking the death penalty.
I think this episode would have been more powerful if they had Sandig being the one taking the needle, especially considering how pathetic he was on the witness stand, pleading for his life and breaking down in tears.
It’s Frank Sobotka from the docks
Just remember: unless the executioner kills himself afterwards, you still have the same amount of killers when he executes someone.
Unless it's the same guy or set of guys doing the executing. One killer executes one killer leaves the same amount. One killer executes 2 killers that's one less killer
@@Assassin87456 Kind of. But because killer 1 is already out of the equation, you are back to the initial problem. 😂
@@Assassin87456 so essentially, you are trading a killer for a serial killer?
@@acidreign0911 Well yeah, we were talking about the quantity, not the quality.
@@Assassin87456 so does that make an executioner a higher quality killer than say, well let's go with Timothy McVeigh. I mean that dude definitely killed more people than an executioner during the French revolution.