Indian need stop comparing their self to China. When Game Science made BMW or Mihoyo made Genshin Impact, they doing because passion. Not because they wanted to prove their self.
u have no idea, next thing u will hear is Modi will tell whole India he will build the game industry in India to become world No.1 in XX years. Modi built a culture of comparing everything with China.
@@sneakymove yeah it's hilarious seeing how ridiculous that he is propelled to this holy status by his voters, over such simple word play. And being a Sri Lanka myself. I wish more Indians wake up, the way South Indians like Tamil Nadu has woken up.
@@saivignesh837 You don't understand. Passion will last longest as motivation than everything else when doing something. Instead jealously and self hartred.
@@lie01234 it is about skill more so than even passion. I think you are talking with no experience in the game dev industry. The skills are also hard (maybe not rocket science), but the game mechanics are lot of work to get right. Passion is always der. I feel passion is more. But it's more passion with no skill, so that becomes day dreaming. Becoz not everyone likes the typical IT job. People want to try a lot of different things. They lack the discipline and hard work to learn and acquire complex skills and also lack access to good tools. Vfx is different vs actual coding, game engine are all complex. That's why India does more of outsourced vfx work than actual creative design, coding etc. And if passion is lacking as you say, then Indians only want to consume rather than create. And let the creation work done by others. Then this is laziness or maybe a cultural mindset. I really don't know exactly what Indians are passionate about. Majority of the things are just cheap copies or rip offs.
Very simple - because rather than making a game, Indians will argue how Wukong is copied from Hanuman and India conquered China 2,000 years ago without firing a shot using Buddhism. Therefore, India wins and everyone feels much better, and every uncle and aunty goes back to sitting around and passing the time with their favourite hobby which is talking for the sake of talking.
India Mai kuch educated people bhi rehte hai mere bhai atleast 00.001 % vahi age jage India ke bahar apna nam karte hai kyuki unhe pata hai ki apne future apne hath mai hai
@@thestraltheundead4093😂 idiots 😂 why are you arguing like that. tumhare Ghar Mai kya paise aye ye sab bakwas.. karke hamre yaha paida huva nahi hamre Bihar Mai paida huva kya fark padta hai
Chinese people believe in a principle of "less talk, more action." In Chinese society, those who talk big without taking any action or achieving anything tangible are the most despised.
There is a idiomatic description of empty vessels in the cantonese and Hokkien Chinese dialects which transliterated is “big cannon god”. Such is the ridicule and mockery attached to braggarts who talk up a good story but produces nothing of worth
The no. 1 reason why India can't is the fact that we love acquiring STATUS more than becoming SKILLFUL.... And we Indians likes choosing to become skillful only and only if when we assume that our time and investment on a particular skill gonna pay us in the form of Monetary benifits and more than that, we care about what will our, " Chacha, Tauu, Bua, bhaiyaa, padosi etc etc, gonna think about. So talented, skillful and capable Indians who wish to get into fields like game design and development are either choosing switching into some other field or fly Abroad and start to work for a company who is planning to launch their next AAA Title
im totally agree but it can it 2-3 years i have analysed indian development market for over a year and talk to some of the best teenagers and skilled guys that are really trying so hard BTW im not talking about nikhil malankar or rahul sehgal they both are scammers
@@thatman3089 so meritocracy? we don't have that. there's no political party who is willing to make that change. Plus, the main problem: most people aren't willing to vote on those lines. Most people just want to vote on religio-political lines because "Muslim vs Hindu" supersedes everything else in this country. As long as we don't go past religion, reservation, and other such stuff, we will never be able to achieve the heights China and the US are achieving.
Your last point shows why India can't build AAA games. Your reason to wanting to build AAA games is not because of love for a game, but because you wantt o one-up other countries.
India has millions of issues (that to basic which other countries have already dealt with let alone fixing the cherry on the cake)😂😂 Phle footpath to bana lo Traffic light to lagwalo Bhukmari bekari kuposan to mita lo Bare aae usa china se compare krne wale Olympic me 0 gold aaya india ka China and USA got 40 gold each 😂😂 Lambe tagde logo ke samne khare hone se koi lamba tagda nahi bnta😂😂
When all of India's poorest rural areas are covered with cement roads or even asphalt roads with green belts and guardrails, where children have clean and decent clothes and nutritious meals, 4G/5G networks cover every household, villagers can afford motorcycles or cars, and new houses are being built, then India will naturally become as confident and prosperous as China. In recent years, I have traveled to many remote rural areas in western China, including Tibet, Xinjiang, and Gansu. The above is the scene I witnessed.
By those logic, Kerala can start to make games now and Kerala's poorest rural areas are covered with cement roads or even asphalt roads. And are you aware that not all villages in China can afford motorcycles or cars, and new houses?
@@RoRZoro Buddy, you misunderstood. What I wanted to express is that if the poorest people in India achieve a decent standard of living (good housing, healthcare, food, education, etc.), then naturally, excellent digital cultural works will be developed in IT-advanced places like Bangalore. The level of economic foundation determines the level of spiritual and cultural products. As for the living conditions in the poorest rural areas of China, you can search on TH-cam; there are various videos made by Western and Indian tourists, and you can see for yourself.😀
As a Chinese descent born in Malaysia, seeing China's growth from famine to poverty to copy cat to Alibaba to tech giant and now triple A game attempt. I must praise their determination and their government's will to bring their nation forward. Despite the talk downs from the west, they are determined to succeed. Good for them.
China's GDP before the West colonized, the opium wars, was 30% of the world. What they have achieved now is not surprising. They just took back their throne. But now it's different, they are back with a strong military.
6:09 They are not merely scanned rocks and stones..... They scanned relics Statutes idols and icons temple artworks fabric calligraphies on real locations styles and facades etc. Not only they will own the scanned images/objects copyrights and brand values but they also promote tourism for such locations. The Chinese developers went for authenticity they scanned and caught the essence of the Wukong/Chinese mythology and presented them to the world. Your way of thinking of getting readily available resources and as the easy way out of getting them is really backward - might be is one of the reason why Indian cant produce such AAA games.
Yup that's what I was thinking when watching the video, if a game is made of things pieced together from readily available resources, it's hard to expect the final product to be successful, more like 'trash in, trash out'.
As a Chinese living in Japan, I want to say that the success of Black Myth is not accidental and publicity is only a small part. It was happened when a series of conditions were met, because continuous progress of education and technology. Also because large number of technician has been trained , the increase of economic income, and the expansion of the consumer market. If India wants to make a game like Black Myth, then India must first complete the country's industrialization, popularize basic education for all, let more people get rid of poverty and have time to get in touch with video games.
yes. agreeable points. Just like you could have not have expected China of 1990s or 2000s to make a high quality consumer good, you can not expect India to produce high quality goods out of low skilled low income mass suddenly.
Most people never bothered to learn deeper truths. Wukong initially had a small team, but after the first trailer, passionate developers (many with industry experience) around the world applied. Something like 10,000 applicants.
Indeed. Japan didn't suddenly invent anime, they did low quality anime on every single thing on earth for 2 decades, at a loss, as children videos, to train a whole industry of artists, in a company called World Masterpiece Theater. They did try everything and fail numerous time till they succeed. Too many shortcut culture in India to be patient enough for this. China also took decades after Goku were stolen in Dragon Balls, they finally made it by releasing Black Myth Wukong and take him back.
gaming like this is a luxury in India, India must have at least 5-6 times GDP of current GDP, and people should have money to buy PCs, then we can expect this. We are behind China at least 15-20 years. So many kids just watch games on youtube, assembling PCs videos becz they just can't buy them.
@@hypergg681 bhai people are not cheap, for example 1 lac per month in India considered as very good job. Now a console cost you 54000, that is 54 percent of your monthly income, in USA, Europe console will cost you less than 10 percent of your income. Ek or baat, in EU, US you need to work about 2-3 hours to buy a new game. In India, 4000 is a week salary for starters
@@VinayK22 tabhi toh cheap hae har chiz me jugad dhundo ge fields ki technicalities (depths) me nahi jaoge toh kon paise dega, koi fields explore hi nahi karta, na koi standards or worth set karta hae yaha, self respect hi nahi hae bhai apne aapko sasta hi bechna hae, pura system hi jugadu hae
A game based on Indian mythology would never work because people will get offended VERY quickly and on every step. The developers would basically be walking on eggshells with it. The history is so rich in our country and could lead to insane masterpieces but the sensetive feelings on religion and mythology by the population will always hinder the possibility heavily.
I would say no one prays to Odin, Thor or any Chinese deity, so I could understand Indians being offended about what they believe, you couldn’t do it with abrahamic mythology. Better to just come up with a unique idea.
For PC gaming to do well in India the economy has to do well so that people have income to spare on PCs. India also has a huge piracy culture that needs to be fixed in order for game developers to actually consider making such games in India.
People in India would rather spend thousands on skins in a free 2 play game than pay similar amount for a good game. People would rather buy an iPhone to play BGMI than buy a pc or console to play even slightly older masterpieces which don't require an Rtx gpu. As mobile games become more popular in India the prospect of good story driven experiences become more unwanted.
@@subhadeepjasu292 no bro i don't agree, as a gamer myself i got bored from fps games like valorant, cod and pubg, and eventually i left playing fps games and now only play story based games for fun. remember: there is always a limit for everything
@@ArthurJason-Constantine I really miss the old TikTok, when there were so many talented ordinary people from India posting videos. They were incredibly skilled at dancing.
I genuinely think the rat race in India is the biggest creativity killer for Indians. All we care is cracking JEE, working a stable 9 to 5 job & getting the so-called "settled" tag from our relatives & peers. We are so fixated on following this way of life and it is so deep rooted in our society that it has made us into believing that anything outside of this sphere is failure and thus an average middle class person doesn't even dare to step outside this zone. What we really need is a personalised roadmap for each and every individual, starting from the grassroot level i.e. schools, rather than a one size fits all concept.
Hyper successful aberration tend to move to western nations. In an organization of 1000 you might need 100 aberrations in order to create a game like Wu Kong For India, retaining the most crucial elements of an organization that can propagate change is its number one problem, not raw manpower, not even propagating the talent. The American market will gladly accept an Indian game out of spite for their domestic industry, which is ran by lesbian wasp women with contempt for mainstream society. If one studio could produce an Indian God of war or dark souls to the quality of a AAA title from a previous generation of consoles they would be capable of cornering a broken western market.
So right. Not to mention gaming is a taboo in India and so many parents scold their children for playing video games and tell them study instead. I'm 23 years old with a job and even now my parents give me a lot of shit if they see me gaming. This stupid controlling rat parents and their tunnel vision mindset is what ruined India. It almost feels like a curse to be born as Indian I have friends from other countries and I can't help but envy how their lives are infinitely better.
ObIt's clear that if someone's talent is recognized by other countries and they’re willing to pay for it, wouldn't anyone prefer to live in a place with less pollution and more freedom, and with a better air quality than India? It’s a bit surprising that IIT Bombay graduates sometimes find jobs paying as low as 4 lakh per annum. It's no wonder many are looking for opportunities elsewhere!
@@subham.biswas this fraud logic won't apply How many tier 2 or 3 colleges' students get 10+ LPA jobs ? It's in finger digit number As for IITians, *It's the standard to get atleast 10+ LPA job* , and for a general private college, that would be an achievement for any student to get a 10+ LPA job
@@ParthaTH-cam09 yes but those 1% are still getting those jobs instead of the IITians who are not( the remaining ones). If having all the resources and alumni network of IIT , you're not getting a job while a tier 2/3 college student is getting it, then it's definitely a skill issue.
Remember when an Indian game called FAUG was hauled to be the alternative to PUBG? It was not even close to pubg mobile early beta versions before launch.
@@NarendraSinghRathore-w8y because it was just an opportunity grab same with that Twitter clone jump on nationalism anti china trend get users without any real innovation .
Concept artist here! Work for video games regularly and I also have a bunch of friends who work for indian game studios and let me tell you guys not even in the next 50 years will we come close to this. Indian art studios are cesspools of old toxic people who always expect you to overwork while being woefully underpaid and just have no vision or organizational skill to even think about making a good video game or a feature film. It is really bad.
> Indian art studios are cesspools of old toxic people who always expect you to overwork while being woefully underpaid To be fair, it's the same at any other corporation under capitalism
Well said. Same reason they will not be able to host an Olympic Games in the near future. They hosted a much smaller Commonwealth Games ten years ago. That was a disaster.
man, you're too pessimistic. India is progressing rapidly, just like China did in the past. I'm a Chinese person working in Japan at miHoYo, and I'm 35 years old. I grew up playing Japanese games, and now Japanese people are playing the games we make.
Indian kids are still watching chota bheem. You want Indians to make a AAA game? One of the key reasons for BKW to be such a roaring success is that they were able to take their culture and showcase it to the world. If an Indian game came out with any mythological characters, sure enough, shops and buses would start burning.
Don't think so. There are so many animated movies, people would've burned their studio too but they didn't. Same will go with games. But if it is movie like PK then I don't know.
@@a.m.p.3545 really? think about hunuman instead of wukokg. do you think Hindus will agree to some demon boss can defend hanuman in a boss fight? or maybe the game makes an evil cow boss and we get to kill it, they would go crazy and start roit and kill people. 😂
People comparing India with China need to calm down. These countries' governments are completely different. India will not be competing with China on anything anytime soon with the political system they have now.
People also need to chill with India vs China war....I don't at all believe that'll happen. From the year 1-1800 both countries have always been the largest economies. They're both FINALLY rising again, having escaped from western imperialism(India had it much harsher), and at a time when they're both rising to the top, only a war between them or around them could end this Asian Century(Centuries) prematurely. That'd be an unbelievable tragedy and I don't want to live in that world. And both countries are rational actors....they may say things for domestic consumption and to bolster nationalism/unity, but they know damn well war must be avoided at ALL COSTS
@@RoRZoro Agree, Western platforms are foreign tools for regime change and destabilizing your country. Without having banned all this stuff China would have MANY millions more self hating, west-worshiping liberal types. This was one of their best moves. Also your last sentence is nonsensical....do you honestly believe that?
It is not the government, the culture is the problem. Many immigrants from India working in the US has the same cutting corner and pay the lowest invest the minimum culture that they grew their career with in India.
Y'all really need to read Marx. "Culture" is shaped by the material reality around us and the system we grow up in; not the other way around. A change in Indian governance to a socialist system like China's would bring massive changes to Indian culture too, the same way it did for China.
As an "Indian gamer" who always had the privilege of playing different games across multiple platforms, I never felt like I belonged to the community here. Either people bash you for being too privileged, or fail to understand the importance of video games as serious industry. I personally know people who make a lot of money but will never purchase a legitimate copy of a video game. For this very reason, I stopped working for Indians in the gaming scene a long time ago. Happy to be a game writer and reviewer now, with clients who are in the West. I hope countries like China, South Korea and Japan also keep seeing much growth in the gaming industry. I have zero hopes for India, unfortunately.
India first needs civic sense. Jugaar, greed, laziness, zero quality, mentality like "jo dikhta he woh bikta hai" will never progress in any fields. Always trying to impress their bosses by licking their asses(Yes Saar to everyone). Thats why india is top in corruption too. And those who are really trying also pull down/out numbered by these bloodsuckers society
Keep saying this and this will surely help some studio to make aaa games but alas people like you wont even try to promote just like how raji became popular sadly you have no hopes good for you not for us be happy with that and if we develop that will be the answer for your statement
@@soumyadipmukherjee6627 bought Raji on the first day of release, streamed it for my viewers, wrote about it. Also going to cover an upcoming indie game from a developer from India. I do what I can, but doesn't mean I am the most optimist person around. Tell me, what have you been doing?
@@soumyadipmukherjee6627 dude nationalism is not a proxy for quality. Just because I like my country and culture doesn't mean I'll lower my standards and support sub-standard stuff. I myself want to build games in the future, but i want people to play my game cause it's good, not cause I'm Indian. Your attitude is precisely why we aren't that good, do you think these western people play games cause they are supporting their country or because they like the games that come out.
Those who says Chinese are cheap labours they are absolutely wrong.I visited china and experienced they are highly skillful at any work.Their traffic control, roads, building, infrastructure,cleanliness, the security, technology, transportation are next level,they are living in 2050.So don't compare with our country with them.The success of game it's just beginning lot of surpises waiting for us.
India doesn't have to compare to China every time China achieve something. West companies made numerus AAA games and i didn't see India feel troubled any time.
India has longer history, richer culture, more advanced political system, more IT engineers and enterpreneuers, attracts more tourists, much positive global image than China, there is no way India is behind China, sad.
@@ulyssis More positive image? OMG India is a third world slum full of shit, China's third and fourth tier cities look better than New Delhi and Mumbai in India
@@ulyssis I am from Taiwan and have worked in China and Japan for a long time. I have also been to India on business trips. India cannot be compared with China. India should be compared with Bangladesh and Indonesia.
@@ulyssis India was never a country in ancient times, but more like a region. Modern India is a British colony. China was unified more than 2,000 years ago. Neither the Maurya Empire nor the Mughal Empire in India were unified countries.
@@ulyssis Indian entrepreneurs? Indian CEOs are not Indians, they are foreigners working for foreigners. The well-known global companies I can think of in China are Xiaomi, Huawei, VIVO, Lenovo, Tencent, Hisense, tiktok, BYD. I can't think of any well-known global companies in India.
I'm Chinese, I don't really know India but I think India could have the same mindset of China for what I've heard and that is "Fast Money mentality", trying to make money as fast as possible, believe me this game in China was a total surprise no one see that coming and even today despite it success people are arguing if it was worth working on it for 7 years cuz some says that a gacha game make more money, it was not simple for game science to succeed in such environment, both of our countries have more than 1 billion people and the fast money mentality run strong.
Exactly, the reason why the world in BMW is so stunningly breathtaking is due to the efforts taken. Mf wanted to half ass using stock asset and expect the same result.
@@kunalverma-ij3zv Have you never seen Indian PPT? In PPT, India is 100 years ahead of China! Development is so tiring. We only need to keep changing the PPT to stay ahead of China for 100 years.
As a person with Chinese background, and also my understanding of the demographics of India: China did not suddenly make a triple A game overnight as you mentioned. The market took around 15 years of maturing, from low budget domestic RPG games to flagship mobile phone games like Genshin to test the waters. India as far as I know thrived in domestic pop culture like Bollywood, but rarely touch the gaming market as much as China. It would be best for India to start off with good mobile games that have positive international feedback, then move on to larger console and PC games. It is a shocker that India, with immense man power and peak tech engineers to miss out this huge market gap in India. Much more crucial in my perspective for India, is to find a fusion between traditional Indian art and modern technology. It feels like the traditional side of India and the modern part of India is completely isolated at the moment, which is not ideal for representing your culture internationally.
@@SamX-dc6mq Their country is doing well because of their government, not in spite of it. Good government policies are the key to the success of a nation; don't be misled by Western propaganda.
@@natn41r Their current govt is autocratic at best you can call it benevolent dictatorship. If things go south (which you saw in 50s and 60s and will see in this very decade itself) it will create a demon like mao xe dong
@@SamX-dc6mq the fact that you're complaining is funny because people in the comments section are pointing out that indians who compare themselves are the reason why India hasn't made any game that's in similar scope to Black Myth Wukong.
I am Vietnamese, Vietnam and China do not like each other, when China released Black Myth Wukong and achieved great success, the Vietnamese government immediately proposed a law to support game making. And Vietnamese netizens actually think a country like Vietnam is capable of making a AAA game, that makes me laugh so hard. Saying that is like a child saying he wants to be an astronaut, not impossible but the possibility is less than 1%.
@@rudysmith1552 No, making 3A game needs more than just capital, it needs talent and market. How many vietnamese are rich enough to play 3A games? just take a look at the amount of vietnamese in steam or console sales in vietnam then figure out if the market can make a 3A game profitable in domestic market. You can try to aim for international market, but what is the chance they are going to like vietnamese style content? You still need a strong domestic market first to at least absorb the majority of the sales just like wukong. Then the question is why? soft power projection of course. Hollywood, Kpop, Anime all brought incalculable benefit to their country of origin, much more than what money they can earn. It makes a country a trend maker and it benefits all products and services associated with the country. A few more wukong-like success and you will start seeing the rise of Cpop worldwide or Chinese movies worldwide. Chinese brands will shoot up in popularity and Chinese people no longer viewed as backward. I am pretty sure that is what the Vietnamese gov want for vietnam.
I am a game developer, and trust me, we can build AAA games in India. The only problem is whether the game can repay the investors and if global players will accept it. Just look at the film industry, only a few films have been accepted in foreign countries. For example, despite having a big budget and extensive marketing, films like Kalki didn’t get accepted by international audiences. The thing about Wukong is that everyone around the world has heard about the Monkey King story. Their cartoons and movies were already globally popular, giving them an advantage when working on the game. When they released posters and demos, the world was already interested because they were familiar with the character and connected with it through movies and animation series. To my knowledge, we don’t have any such character or story from India that is globally recognized. When people talk about India, they often think of poverty, chicken tikka masala, or Gandhi. There isn’t a story or character we can sell to the international audience. Obviously, we can’t make a game about Gandhi fighting the British with his stick because Gandhi’s freedom struggle was about non-violence. Additionally, we can’t make money from the Indian market because the majority of people don’t have high-end laptops or PCs at home. Even working professionals in IT or other industries who have high-end PCs are unlikely to pay ₹2500-3000 for a game when they can download it from torrents.
Nah you are wrong Who even once tried to figure out that which country has made hitman 2 People will play any game if its fun Plus games are very different than movies
I agree with your comment for the most part. We don't have to make a game that only showcases India. The Japanese don't make games that only showcases unique Japanese culture, on the contrary they make just fun games. In India we could make games which are just clones of games and try and sell them. This way we can develop talent and increase adoption by everyone in India, then focus on a game that uniquely displays Indian culture.
bro that movie has been shame they stole other artists works to make that movie how can u expect that after doing such stupid thing other countries will appreciate.. Indians can only steal but cant create something on their own..
Why do you even need to focus on god's and their stories.. is that the only genre ? Start making games like my friend Pedro first. Kalki didn't hit the audience because it sucked ! I'm from Mumbai and that south indian overacting doesn't work with me. The first scene of Amitabh being young killed the movie for me there itself. There's are lacs of people out there with very high spec'd PC. And due to all political propaganda people here are really patriotic. They'll buy shit in the name of India. Dude, just make good games that's all.. I understand investors aren't investing but rest of all are just excuses.
Infosys...... companies who contract to them never got a good finished result and have to either hold those guys' hand to build it right, or to take it back and do it themselves.
Excellent analysis, Being a game developer myself and having worked at gaming start ups I can recall the moments where we used to discuss game ideas and designers always used to suggest ideas where their design shines and it doesn't matters whether users will like that idea or developers will able to execute that in time and budget and vice versa.
Indian gaming professional here - Good summary! Here are my 2 cents: - Gaming is high art. We have not done it well with animation industry as of date in India for the last 2 or 3 decades, let alone gaming. - Having high end technology is akin to having an expensive pencil and that alone does not make you an excellent artist. The missing pieces are compelling story telling skills and extra ordinary visualisation skills. A combo of these two are rarest gemstones one can find. This won't come just because we have funding, or tech. - The few Indian gaming companies are copying other globally successful games(mostly casual or mobile games), with MAY BE a few trivial changes here and there. - When it comes to engaging the player, patience is the name of the game. I have not seen one company putting in the discipline and patience in building a really successful and truly delightful casual game, let alone AAA from India. Summary: Patience, discipline, compelling story telling skills, brilliant artistic abilities are gravely missing. We have all the money, talent, and resources. Honestly, with the current mindset of any average entrepreneur, we can't build successful games, let alone great games.
Japanese dump a ton of money making children cartoon for every single world famous children stories, in a company called World Masterpiece Theater, for almost 20 years. This is definitely money losing but it build a whole generation of artists who grew the entire Japanese anime industry. India need to do the same if they want to be the best of anything in the world.
@@abhisheks8017better than ola party 😂😂😂 Who scammed lakhs of crores as in shree ram party government India makes thousand of startup and billioners the growth rate suddenly increases to 7% But andhnamzi like you can't see 😂😂
@@cinnamonshake45 ahh I see, so we should pay taxes to government so that we can do things ourselves? There's a reason why the government exists, it is to serve people with better facilities
I hope I can play India AAA games one day, India have so many gods and myths to tell the world, India movies are very popular in China, but i never heard of any india game. --Love from China🥰
As a cs major student, i watched a lot of india youtuber to learn code,, I know how clever indian are, so i believe india has the ablitity to create a AAA game.
Yep...Chinese here as well. Their ancient history is incredible...but modern India is really struggling, despite nominal GDP growth. Lots of things holding them back which can't be solved over night. But all this comparing is silly and in fact only assists western intentions to divide and conquer
@@JayLim72890% indian population are poor and we cant afford pc or console also we not interesting in gaming industry we rather going work to feeding our family than waste time on video game
Ask yourself why there are no Indian software or websites or code in anything. Anyone can make program with no reak big capital, and even one person can create a game or program, and India has millions of IT grads and coders. But not one global good software in anything.. Why not? Isn't India democracy and conducive to innovation and china is dictatorship and can't innovate or do anything good, yet here we are..
The Chinese builds a bridge in 3 years. We Indians pland and ponder for 3 years, then there's debate between different groups. Then there's further more discussion about benefits and disadvantage of building a bridge. Then we start doing it.
I'm not joking with you. You will never understand how intense the competition for jobs is in China. If I assume that I buy something on Taobao today, I would theoretically receive the goods the next day, and the prices are unimaginably low. Two days ago, I was in Shenzhen, dining at a restaurant where I ordered a table full of dishes, and if i cant see the dishes on my table in 30 minutes, it would be free. The competitiveness of Chinese people is beyond what Indians can imagine, and you definitely won't understand how much pressure there is to study in China.
@@MrBiswas123 I know you were just using a metaphor, but I just want to tell you that you may still be underestimating the drive of the Chinese people. I am from Hong Kong and worked in the toy industry, collaborating with American companies. Americans are also surprised by the competitiveness of the Chinese. In China, people use the term 'juǎn' (卷) to describe this somewhat pathological competitiveness. 996 is a common working norm in China, meaning working from 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM, six days a week. I just want to tell you why it’s not a coincidence that a game like 'Black Myth' can be developed by 140 people in China; it’s a natural outcome.
@@MrBiswas123 I hope that when Indians compare themselves to China, they will take the time to understand the stories behind the Chinese people. They should reflect on whether Indians can match the same drive and sacrifice as the Chinese. You know, every time I hear these comparisons between India and China, or even the audacious claims that India will surpass China in the short term, as a hong kong chinese, I feel deeply disrespected. The Chinese are a group filled with ideals and responsibilities, behind every success, there are so many sacrifices and struggles. There is a saying in China: 'Attitude determines success or failure.'
This is such an underrated comment. We Indians simply lack an artistic temper. We thrive in mediocrity and therefore lack the ability to do the mehnat it takes to build a breathing gaming world. I have had a chance to see concept art from gaming studios such as Ubisoft Pune and Gameloft. The kind of work emerging from our Indian studios is very generic and almost always an indianized version of foreign art. Raji is a pleasant exception
@@sparshgakhar3017 'art can't come up in poverty ' You might want to reassess that. Most art has come out of limited means.the issue is we Indians are indifferent to art.
@@sca8217 We had grand works of art from when we were rich like Temples, etc. We still have less expensive art with movies, books etc. You just can't put away 500-1000 cr for a game in Indian economy. I definitely don't hold this against the Indian public, cleanliness issues - sure, injustice - sure... but not this. If somebody surprises me with Rajji like game, I will be happy.
@harshbatra4301 Past will be a part of you but it will not define the present you. So you can't just leave past. If you do then you may forget why you're here even.
Gamer: this game plays like it was made by someone who was making a game they wanted to play themselves. So many games nowadays play like they’re trying to manipulate you. This one just feels genuine. One can really feel the heart the developers pour into this Game. When the producer of the game, Feng Ji, was a still fresh college graduate, he wrote a magazine column "Why Games Fail". He went into quite a bit of details of the Chinese gaming industry at the time, but the main point he had was that developers don't play their own games anymore. To him, a game can only be successful if the guys who made the game in the first place had an unstoppable urge to create something fun, and even after years of working on the game, they are still excited to play it. Seems like this is still the mindset Feng has decades later, with millions of dollars of budget on the line.
If you don‘t tell your own story, someone will tell it for you. Many Japanese and Korean games were based on Chinese mythology. US games were based on European myth and stories. Soon, Chinese will tell Indian myth and story and make a game of it, and sell to the world.😂 You snooze, you lose.
Can India make a AAA Game? no. you talk about unreal, do you know how much resources is required to produce game designers that can use unreal effectively? it took China 15 years from when they started training on unreal to develop it talent pool to what it is today. it not like you can drag anyone with a game development degree and he is able to produce the quality for a AAA Game. it goes deep if you want to create the best game, you have to become the best in the field first. AAA is not "entry level" and you can't use entry level designers who doesn't know what they are doing. furthermore AAA game ROI is not good, so it does not make sense for anyone to upstart in the game industry making AAA Game, Wukong is their 3rd game after they have develop their team to take this challenge. as to market, domestic market is really not important since game function effectively as retailable services, just like how you can sell Indian software to global market, you can sell Indian game to global market, the market penetration of India itself is not that important. of course for Wukong, they did take advantage of their domestic market, but it is not a requirement to be successful, it is just harder to capture the global market which is more competitive. I do game development in Singapore, we hardly have an domestic market. on government policy, you can attempt to attract major studio to establish a base in a city, and build a digital media cluster around that city. possibly tax free, with free office space, get them to come and they will figure out how to create the talent you need, and once these talent exist in India, they can found their own companies. lastly the point of outsourcing, you imply it is difficult to outsource the development of games. when it reality most of the work in Wukong and many AAA games are outsource, and this is the result of the production cycle of game is irregular, another words, you need different people for different duration for different stages of development, if you hire everyone to work inhouse, you will have to keep hiring and firing people continously, it is just easily to outsource a different part of the development to different specialised studios that can then pack their schedule by working for several different games. watch the credit carefully, and you will see there are alot of outside involvement in games development. this is why I mention you need to build a digital media cluster, because these companies don't standalone, they support each other and offer each other services. as to sensitivity of Indian culture and religion, that you maybe right. in which case you can simply choose not to make historical game and focus on future or scifi. why I make games is because I can make anything. the most important thing about game development is not to limit yourself to an idea on what a game can and cannot be. if you describe to a 100 people, the concept of flappy bird, 98 of them will say it a stupid idea, yet that "stupid idea" works, and people are willing to play it. you don't have to make your game like everyone else. i hope that can inspire some to try their wildest ideas.
If you have a deep understanding of Chinese You will love games even more because words and conversations are filled with profound philosophy and worldview
The first thought that pops into my mind is that for an international audience, they have to deal with the Indian version of Wukong dancing before and after every boss fight.
One of the biggest problem is most Indian teenagers don't even have a pc, even if they have, it's a regular one. We also don't even a high-end phone that can support the game. That's why free fire blew up more than pubg. I still remember there was only one rich kid in my class that could afford to play pubg, maybe 5-10 people at max in our entire school and it was a private school. And also job vacancies are pretty low so most people either keep grinding upto middle age or continue their family buisness. Ultimately, most people don't even think about these luxuries. For India to build a game like Wukong, we have to be economically better at door to door level and be more than just lower middle class families. If some Indian developer even manage to cook a masterpiece, they have to rely on international sales. In India, it'll be just streamers buying that game and a few others pirating it
What makes you think the have to target teenagers? All the people I know who played Wukong are over 22 and even most streamers who played it are well over 20. Also not every game needs to be as expensive and good looking as Wukong to sell good. Look at Elden Ring or Tears of the Kingdom. They still sold over 20 million
It's not like nobody buys games in India, me and my friends in school had PS4's or xbox consoles, I still am an avid gamer and have a great pc and Ps5. Steam and epic have a decent market in India. The ps5 has sold 1 million units in India which is again above average but it's better than nothing. I saw a kid in a game store in a mall, he wanted to buy 2 games but had money for only one, he wanted The last of us 2 Remastered and Dying light2 for ps5, so I bought him DL2, earlier he didn't accept as I was a stranger but then I gave it to him as a gift, honestly the best feeling in the world. I feel happy when I see more kids and adults game and enjoy it as a hobby. Hopefully it will expand soon and India will also make a masterpiece like Wukong.
@@valentinvas6454 I'm 20 and my friend is 19 and we both pre-ordered Wukong. What's wrong with teenagers playing, teenagers actually are the most skilled and well versed with gaming knowledge.
@@valentinvas6454 Bringing Elden Ring is kind of silly, you know. We, Indians, generally don't have enough creative minds to write a story like Miyazaki did. It's the culmination of poor education system, lack of infrastructure and every other point that makes it impossible for Indians to foster a gaming culture.
@@prozac1127 my comment would be "Indian chapris will stick to pubg and free fire meanwhile china will always succeed to represent their culture through different ways"
Game Science Team had to go out and scan their assets specifically because Megascan and Quixel doesn't have a lot of assets specific to Chinese Architecture and Environments. The sculptures, statues, cave carvings, all needed to be scanned and incorporated. I forsee this being a problem for Indian cultural specific content as well.
The guy in the video thinks that India can make a unique and good game for India by reusing the existing 3D assets is hilarious. And he is too optimistic about the capacity of AI in motion capture.😅
I'm a part time game dev. Now that Varun has covered this, that gives me hope as he tends make early bets when they gonna blow up. I was never a great artist even though I'd love to 3D model and sketch. I've been programming since high school yet barely making close to avg FAAANG. I've despised marketing, but now I've started exploring hooks to get people to play my prototypes. I'm a deeply philosophical as an individual and have been regularly reading and consuming Indian history and lore. I'm proud of it. There's every potential outside this country that can skyrocket my career, yet I choose to stay home hoping that someday things will change. I guess it takes an orthogonal individual like me: a misfit for other markets and not so perfect skills for the FAANG market, to attempt at something like this. A few years down the line, with my knowledge of Indian history and lore, I'm hoping to make this possible. Wish me luck!
@@achilles_1118 so it happen before, and India only had one tier 1 city? how about the rest of India? that is the problem, you guys don't care about the rest of the people, why? because hierarchy, you guys differentiate a person by their name. that alone make you guys thousand year behind.
@@vink822 lol Chinese bot, India has 8 Tier 1 cities, not 1. Imagine living in a dictatorship and trying to chat😂😂😂😂 what VPN are you using to hide from Winnie the Pooh right now???😂😂😂 Oh btw, what happened in Tiananmen square? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
After observing the Indians for years and hearing many stories from pragmatic, objective ppl, I have found one huge flaw which the Indians couldn't compete on the big stage. That is they have great ambitions but do not have the will to carry out the difficulties in achieving the objectives. Give u an analogy. It is like a person who has primary school qualification but wanted to take the exams of an undergraduate. The foundations is not there, my friend. China took 4 decades of continued hard work to achieve her dreams on all levels. India doesn't have the patience.
Yes. Their foundation is weak....very backwards...jumping to IT before having a manufacturing base. Their strategy wasn't great because Westerners whispered in their ears great BS which they followed. China rejected western suggestions, while India listened and became a democracy WAY TOO EARLY, before they developed. No developed countries were democratic at their time of rapid development. It slows you down so hard when you really need someone who can forcibly drag the country upwards with an iron hand, without the slow bureaucracy.
Indeed it's many cultural flaws that severely limit what Indians can ultimately achieve. Also it's important to understand that most Indians value superstition and religion over reality and common sense. Chinese don't have these problems.
Imagine playing Lord Hanuman as a character. You would never lose a single fight-not because Hanuman is the strongest (which he is)-but because studios wouldn’t want to be reduced to a pile of debris. For argument's sake, let's say they never touch any religious topics. Even then, we would rarely come up with good storytelling, similar to Bollywood, where there are hardly any watchable movies in comparison to the huge amount of content produced. However, I still remain optimistic about the future of Indian gaming. You never know what surprises the future holds.
@@Leo-rd7dtI think it was a mobile game, based on the movie return of Hanuman, where Hanuman Ji is moving is rightward direction and breaking as much pots as possible. I think this was the game...
@@Leo-rd7dt You guys really behave like vilayati , completely cut off from our cultural roots and sentiments of our people. Religion is not a museum, monument, or entertainment. It should never be reduced to entertainment medium or someone's money making machine.
Journey to the West. Although the protagonist goes to obtain Buddhist scriptures, the content is a story with Taoist culture as the main body.Heaven is Taoism and Chinese ancestors, and monkeys come from Chinese opera stories. The original form of (india)Buddha is in hell, in charge of death. In Journey to the West, Chinese Buddha (the incarnation of consciousness) is placed in the sky. He is governed by Chinese Taoism gods and becomes a member of little god.
@@Rajusharmal Chinese Buddhism (Han Buddhism) and Indian Buddhism are different. Chinese Buddhism is 3 religious combinations 1 . 三教合一 . ( 道Taoism+儒Confucianism+釋Buddhism ). China retains the content of the Buddhist scriptures. Simple Indian Buddhist ? ancient Chinese do not accept it From its inception, " Chinese Buddhism" has been influenced by native Chinese religions and philosophy, especially Confucianism and Taoism, but also Chinese folk religion. Before the emergence of Buddhism, the Chinese did not have the concept of hell. So when the Chinese described hell, they would quote Buddhism. "Taoism" has formed Chinese culture and Chinese philosophy. (Heaven) "Confucianism" regulates the moral concepts and etiquette of the Chinese. (Human world) "Buddhism" affects the concept of life and death of the Chinese. (hell)
@@barbiebarbie1813 Buddhism was inspired from Hinduism. The founder of Buddhism was a Hindu then later became a Buddhist. Hinduism and Buddhism are centuries older than taoism and Chinese Buddhism. When Indian Buddhism spread to China via Tibet, Buddhism was modified by other religions in China and then was called the Chinese version of Buddhism. Indian Buddhism has ancients texts called tripitakas, sutras, jataka tales etc way older than ancient Chinese Buddhist scriptures.
The cost of entry into proper AAA gaming is very high in India. Earlier it was only hardware but now even software clients like Steam have ditched regional pricing. Earlier Steam games used to be priced according to purchasing power of the country, nowadays it's directly 60$-70$ converted to ₹5k. Also the basic idea of what a 'video game' should be is very much flawed here. Indie games and platformer type games don't get respect as people think they are made for kids. Indian rookie gamers prefer graphics over gameplay. This same thing used to happen with anime few years back until the advent of OTT after which people started respecting the idea of animation being a proper medium for storytelling and not just limited to kid's entertainment. Hopefully things change. As a country of 1.4 Billion people one can only imagine the potential of a gaming market.
Here is my perspective as Game Developer. You have same Misconception that every Indian Have. if India don't have market of PC & Console Gaming. It Doesn't mean we can't achieve this level of Success. I always repeat this line "We Don't sell games in Sabji Market, Games are sold on Internet Globally" so Market is same for any game no matter it's from India, China, USA or Uganda etc. Actual Problem is We Missed Revolution of Gaming. Because "India is still Unemployed & Poor Country". many of us still can't afford basic Technology & Computers & All Current and previous Politicians are responsible for this. So Simply It Doesn't matter if India have PC gamers or not. Because We have easy reach to global Gamers including US, Europe, China. So Market is same for us. only thing we are missing is Basic Technology reach which will plant Tech Creations like AAA Games, AAA Movies, AAA Billionaires. "Gamers are Pure souls they don't care about Country of Origin. Only thing they care about Experience." I get 100's of messages from students. asking for help to get Computer to do something in Tech, Gaming, Films but they can't afford Computer required for these things. This is Reality.
This may be true. Growing up in Mumbai, we had the resources to go to lamington road to buy cheap parts for assembling decent gaming PCs . But to build a game development setup from this is near impossible. I remember an animator friend of mine who was working on a short film, leaving his computer on throughout the day to render 5 seconds worth of frames while he went to work. And this was not too long ago. Meanwhile you have one person development studios from Eastern European countries, who are also poor, but are at least able to afford computers.
I am a 3D design student, I work for advertising as well and most people PCs only has not more than 4GB of Graph Card in college. Only 5-10% has 8GB VRAM. I am the only one in the college who has 16GB RTX 4090. This is the condition of design schools. Average college students condition is way worse.
you are absolutley right, and its become worse each day adding to that, younger population are jobless which just ads more jobless people into these areas.
Hey dum dum. China is only slightly less socially conservative as India. As for religion. India has more useless left wing progressives than China by a wide margin. Hell the Chinese have successfully blended socialism, a Leninist state and nationalism without falling into left liberal f3t1zhes. Indian secularists are busy running defence for Islamists and crying about hindutva and ISROs pre launch pujas. This is a question of coherent culture and spare capital. India has neither.
As a guy developing a game engine and aspiring to setup a game studio, more truer words cannot be said. Most people pressure into learning things that what the companies require and do not focus on the creation and innovation side of things.
Two reasons you forgot to mention for Wukong's success: 1. Woke game journalists and activist tried to cancel the game because they tried to blackmail the studio into putting DEI propoganda in their game and when they refused to do this, all the journalists tried canceling the game, they were giving the game negative reviews even a few days before its release. Gamers saw this and as they've seen games with DEI become souless, a game that is completely against DEI was like heaven to them. It also showed that gamers no longer trust journalists and journalist no longer dictate what becomes popular or played in the gaming market. 2. "Journey to the west" the origin of Wukong's story, is one of China's four great pieces of literature and possibly the most popular of them, so its success in china was invevitable. And in America, many schools students read the story for school projects as well. So it was also popular already in the west, like man come on, its the literal inspiration behind Goku. Bonus: Just like how Elden Ring got so popular even though other Fromsoft games like DarkSouls didnt, was because it came out in a time where the market was saturated with trash games. And this is the same thing that happened with Wukong, the game industry in the west is is very bad right now. Like look at Concord💀It had double the budget of Wukong andsame development time and staff number yet the game couldnt supass 700 all time high players and Sony shut it down after less than 14 day. All because the game was just bad and also infested bad DEI charecter designs and the game was paid in a market where Hero shooters struggle even when they're free. "Its life span was outlasted by a bug in my backyard😂"
Bloodborne was a success and is considered one of the greatest games of all time, because it was breathtaking and what they did was commendable, people literally beg sony to release a port for pc. That tells you how high the demand is.
Piracy isnt the problem, most people who pirate it wouldn't have bought the game none the less, and to be fair the reason that india even has a gaming community is due to piracy, many of those people who were introduced to games through piracy are buying games now.
There is no potential as of now Pc gaming is going backwards in india because of prices or computer components and laptops New Consoles always have low stocks and are heavily overpriced Mobile gaming is only big because mobiles are cheaper in india and are a necessity for people.
1) Gaming in India is a luxury. 1 lakh for a pc build along with games ranging from 3-5k. Good luck convincing parents to buy these. Also some families(even today) aren't earning enough to eat or have a sustainable life. 2) India is very sensitive when it comes to hindu mythology. People have backward thinking. Government is backward too. Hate crime in the name of religion happens everyday in India. Good luck convincing them anything related to hindu mythology. 3) Development whether it's a game, website or anything is like a passion. You can't compete with someone if you're not passionate enough. In 2020, government banned pubg. In the name of nationalism, we got a competitor. How good was it? Crap. 4) China as a country is far ahead of India. Look at Olympics table if you need to clarify. To sum it all up, gaming is expensive. We have government too sensitive to handle anything. No passion from developers and competing with someone that's far ahead of us.
I've always wanted to create a game based on the stories of Raja Raja Cholan, Karnan, Ramayanam, and others. However, I can't dedicate my life to it while I have to provide for my family. I hope that one day I'll be able to do something just for myself.
"Imagine a game inspired by the Mahabharata, where you can play as one of the five main characters, guided by Krishna. The boss battles could feature epic fights against Karna, Duryodhana, Dronacharya, and others. It would be such a beautifully crafted game!
I find Raji: An ancient epic shots to be a good point, the game is an indie game developed by Nodding head games and the story and mechanics are good. I hope Varun can do a podcast with them on the their game development journey and other things.
Something to add here is that Wukong is inspiration behind Son Goku and Son Goku is behind Goku of Dragon ball series, one might say wukong is inspired by Hanuman ,Dont know about that but lot of similarities exists between their individual stories and myths, also wukong text is known as "Journey to the west" where west is India 🇮🇳 as wukong makes the journey in search of immortality. I feel the best game on indian mythos and stories will be made by indians outside India, sadly. Great video, Varun.❤ Loved your take on this topic.
dude its amazing how youve made this whole video with ai..🔥🔥🔥 some parts missed the lipsinc other than that its awesome .. excited to see how far can you take this
I am from Malaysia n in the Animation industry. This is the most comprehensive, well researched, non bullshit, practical, yet humble video on--not just video game--but media business in general. Some of the hurdles u mentioned India is facing is just the same as us in Malaysia. I hope u keep making more practical business content like this. God knows TH-cam is riddled with too much get rich quick gurus n clueless salty gamers.
maybe stop comparing and realise that China is on a completely different level. Having a good understanding of yourself is the first step towards self improvement
Easy, in comparison, India has a very radical society to the world. A AAA game is an art form which needs the wings of creativity and freedom to which, the Indian population will always raise criticism and potentially violence against the developers and the company developing the said game. Imagine a product that is so hampered by your own country's people, politicians, bureaucrats and investors, one would simply accept their losses and move on rather than making a game like Wukong in India.
Will not be surprised if it was. A lot of the animation for Hollywood movies does get done in India - have a look at the credits of a few movies. Which makes it even more frustrating that we (Indians) can't make something homegrown with the talent we have. :)
The mythology point is so accurate. India has so much to offer, with countless storylines to explore. We just lack the minds and resources to bring them to life. It’s like having a Lego set in a box, just waiting to be assembled and shown to the world.
It will happen eventually will take lots of years tho once india develops, purchasing power increases and pc/consoles are made in india just like smartphones are now only then it will happen Mobile gaming only became big in india once smartphones became cheaper earlier taxes were really high
That will only happen if they disrespect it, its Hinduism not !slam Hindus are way more tolerant thats why so many people who are openly mocking Hinduism are still alive@@metaterrestrial197
Don't forget the constant attack from Gaming Journalists, calling the developer team misogynist and the game lack diversity and inclusivity which just make gamers want to support it even more.
That's because China already united, with same culture & languages. For India, u have too many different languages, cultures & religious, to make successful game, u should think of character, story, form, or something that the most Indian will accept. Or it doesn't need to be Indian religion related, u just need a funny good game (like most of the successful games), then the whole world will buy it.
@@emhgarlyyeung Yes. But not as much as black myth wokong. It's the most successful single player game now. Only because of the culture it belongs to. It had the history, company did the marketing....Boom. And about India, the moment I started talking a game about Hanunan Ji, you immediately jumped in bringing other unknown cultures. God knows what you'll do if someone actually makes a game on Lord Hanuman. And for your kind information, Monkey King Wokong is inspired from Hanuman Ji.
@@connorjade5460 Haha, nope, there is no proof, and these two are totally different in every expects. WuKong were actually expanded based on China older character Wu ZhiQi, WuKong and Wu ZhiQi were both demon/monster, both powerful and able to shape shift or transform, both were suppressed under mountain by someone stronger, both were rebellious personality. Compare to WuKong, If Hanuman similar 2%, then Wu ZhiQi similar 30-40%.
@@emhgarlyyeung th-cam.com/video/TAASAsLKFDQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=i6PFQxTnA0oSkz1F This is literally the first video that came as soon as you type sun wokon and hanuman
We cannot do this because even today if you get placed in a company with even a ₹2L/month salary, the first question that gets asked it, "WHAT IF THE COMPANY FAILS?" so forget being able to work in a GAME STARTUP that initially will definitely not be even paying that High Salary. Yes, but if we go to Europe, US or Canada and do this same Game Developing job there, then it is okay, cause that is a STATUS SYMBOL. so it cannot happen here.
Biggest reason is, we are a country of engineers and doctors. Taking arts a career path is looked down upon. The pool of good artists is limited. To make a game like wukong you need a country which respects art as a career. Let's say you try to make a game like this in India, the engineers who do not have a sense of good art would have more say than an artist because well, that's how it works here. Also, encouraging people to use AI like you do in the video will result in the most generic ass looking games. Wukong works because you can see the insane art that went into it. Art specific to china. You tech bros are part of the problem. Good movies, music, books and art do not always have a "tech solution". It needs culture behind it.
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Indian need stop comparing their self to China. When Game Science made BMW or Mihoyo made Genshin Impact, they doing because passion. Not because they wanted to prove their self.
u have no idea, next thing u will hear is Modi will tell whole India he will build the game industry in India to become world No.1 in XX years. Modi built a culture of comparing everything with China.
@@sneakymove yeah it's hilarious seeing how ridiculous that he is propelled to this holy status by his voters, over such simple word play.
And being a Sri Lanka myself. I wish more Indians wake up, the way South Indians like Tamil Nadu has woken up.
@@saivignesh837 You don't understand. Passion will last longest as motivation than everything else when doing something. Instead jealously and self hartred.
@@saivignesh837 it's not about the skill, lots of people can learn or already have the skills. What really matter is the passion to make a great game.
@@lie01234 it is about skill more so than even passion. I think you are talking with no experience in the game dev industry. The skills are also hard (maybe not rocket science), but the game mechanics are lot of work to get right. Passion is always der. I feel passion is more. But it's more passion with no skill, so that becomes day dreaming. Becoz not everyone likes the typical IT job. People want to try a lot of different things. They lack the discipline and hard work to learn and acquire complex skills and also lack access to good tools.
Vfx is different vs actual coding, game engine are all complex. That's why India does more of outsourced vfx work than actual creative design, coding etc.
And if passion is lacking as you say, then Indians only want to consume rather than create. And let the creation work done by others. Then this is laziness or maybe a cultural mindset. I really don't know exactly what Indians are passionate about. Majority of the things are just cheap copies or rip offs.
Very simple - because rather than making a game, Indians will argue how Wukong is copied from Hanuman and India conquered China 2,000 years ago without firing a shot using Buddhism. Therefore, India wins and everyone feels much better, and every uncle and aunty goes back to sitting around and passing the time with their favourite hobby which is talking for the sake of talking.
Buddhism comes from Nepal, not Endia!
@@peanut0brain it comes from bihar dude, nepal is 80% hinduism
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India Mai kuch educated people bhi rehte hai mere bhai atleast 00.001 % vahi age jage India ke bahar apna nam karte hai kyuki unhe pata hai ki apne future apne hath mai hai
@@thestraltheundead4093😂 idiots 😂 why are you arguing like that. tumhare Ghar Mai kya paise aye ye sab bakwas.. karke hamre yaha paida huva nahi hamre Bihar Mai paida huva kya fark padta hai
Chinese people believe in a principle of "less talk, more action." In Chinese society, those who talk big without taking any action or achieving anything tangible are the most despised.
Yeah we get, yall say that in every comment section.
There is a idiomatic description of empty vessels in the cantonese and Hokkien Chinese dialects which transliterated is “big cannon god”. Such is the ridicule and mockery attached to braggarts who talk up a good story but produces nothing of worth
@aarthirajaraman7453 Unfortunately, itz true. Nothing against India and Indians but they shout a lot and do little or nothing.
Haha tell that to your government
Sounds like India. Lol
The no. 1 reason why India can't is the fact that we love acquiring STATUS more than becoming SKILLFUL.... And we Indians likes choosing to become skillful only and only if when we assume that our time and investment on a particular skill gonna pay us in the form of Monetary benifits and more than that, we care about what will our, " Chacha, Tauu, Bua, bhaiyaa, padosi etc etc, gonna think about. So talented, skillful and capable Indians who wish to get into fields like game design and development are either choosing switching into some other field or fly Abroad and start to work for a company who is planning to launch their next AAA Title
China used to have the same problem.
But the communist government changed the scenario by promoting skilled people more.
And the result you can see.
This is the harsh truth.
im totally agree but it can it 2-3 years i have analysed indian development market for over a year and talk to some of the best teenagers and skilled guys that are really trying so hard BTW im not talking about nikhil malankar or rahul sehgal they both are scammers
So in a country where 90% of population earns less than 20k you want them to have skills for fun rather than monetary benefits? Good luck.
@@thatman3089 so meritocracy? we don't have that. there's no political party who is willing to make that change. Plus, the main problem: most people aren't willing to vote on those lines.
Most people just want to vote on religio-political lines because "Muslim vs Hindu" supersedes everything else in this country. As long as we don't go past religion, reservation, and other such stuff, we will never be able to achieve the heights China and the US are achieving.
Your last point shows why India can't build AAA games.
Your reason to wanting to build AAA games is not because of love for a game, but because you wantt o one-up other countries.
yea
Yup, this approach will fail.
He meant they've a lot to offer. One-upping other countries isn't the core intention lol
India has millions of issues (that to basic which other countries have already dealt with let alone fixing the cherry on the cake)😂😂
Phle footpath to bana lo
Traffic light to lagwalo
Bhukmari bekari kuposan to mita lo
Bare aae usa china se compare krne wale
Olympic me 0 gold aaya india ka
China and USA got 40 gold each
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Lambe tagde logo ke samne khare hone se koi lamba tagda nahi bnta😂😂
@@Rajakji99 exactly
When all of India's poorest rural areas are covered with cement roads or even asphalt roads with green belts and guardrails, where children have clean and decent clothes and nutritious meals, 4G/5G networks cover every household, villagers can afford motorcycles or cars, and new houses are being built, then India will naturally become as confident and prosperous as China.
In recent years, I have traveled to many remote rural areas in western China, including Tibet, Xinjiang, and Gansu. The above is the scene I witnessed.
You forgot to mention toilet
@@chinpinhonThat problem already solved
By those logic, Kerala can start to make games now and Kerala's poorest rural areas are covered with cement roads or even asphalt roads. And are you aware that not all villages in China can afford motorcycles or cars, and new houses?
@@RoRZoro Buddy, you misunderstood. What I wanted to express is that if the poorest people in India achieve a decent standard of living (good housing, healthcare, food, education, etc.), then naturally, excellent digital cultural works will be developed in IT-advanced places like Bangalore. The level of economic foundation determines the level of spiritual and cultural products. As for the living conditions in the poorest rural areas of China, you can search on TH-cam; there are various videos made by Western and Indian tourists, and you can see for yourself.😀
u think china's rural pop is good
As a Chinese descent born in Malaysia, seeing China's growth from famine to poverty to copy cat to Alibaba to tech giant and now triple A game attempt. I must praise their determination and their government's will to bring their nation forward. Despite the talk downs from the west, they are determined to succeed. Good for them.
The talk downs will soon come in a form of missiles. Certain people want to rekindle the 8 nation war all over again
China's GDP before the West colonized, the opium wars, was 30% of the world. What they have achieved now is not surprising. They just took back their throne. But now it's different, they are back with a strong military.
It is not just what the Chinese accomplished but the short time they did it all.
That's what I respect about china. No matter what you say, think about them but you can't ignore their growth and influence
dont forget they build their own space station.
6:09 They are not merely scanned rocks and stones..... They scanned relics Statutes idols and icons temple artworks fabric calligraphies on real locations styles and facades etc. Not only they will own the scanned images/objects copyrights and brand values but they also promote tourism for such locations. The Chinese developers went for authenticity they scanned and caught the essence of the Wukong/Chinese mythology and presented them to the world. Your way of thinking of getting readily available resources and as the easy way out of getting them is really backward - might be is one of the reason why Indian cant produce such AAA games.
lol true, people tend to appreciate originality, and hate asset flipped game even if they looks good.
Yup that's what I was thinking when watching the video, if a game is made of things pieced together from readily available resources, it's hard to expect the final product to be successful, more like 'trash in, trash out'.
In my lifetime, I'd love to see an Indian epic done justice in a world class film or game, but I'm not holding my breath
I'm 21 year old and 1 thing I have observed growing up that a large amount of us would rather work hard to scam others then to work hard honestly
i mean we couldn't even launch proper mobile games yet, forget about PC games.
Time for you to surround your self with better people
@@markcity1343 not talkting about my friends circle , all my friends are hard workers
@stormssf8538 what stopped u man
Seems like you surround yourself with shitty people. What a dumb take lmao
As a Chinese living in Japan, I want to say that the success of Black Myth is not accidental and publicity is only a small part. It was happened when a series of conditions were met, because continuous progress of education and technology. Also because large number of technician has been trained , the increase of economic income, and the expansion of the consumer market.
If India wants to make a game like Black Myth, then India must first complete the country's industrialization, popularize basic education for all, let more people get rid of poverty and have time to get in touch with video games.
yes. agreeable points. Just like you could have not have expected China of 1990s or 2000s to make a high quality consumer good, you can not expect India to produce high quality goods out of low skilled low income mass suddenly.
This comment is eye opening.
Most people never bothered to learn deeper truths. Wukong initially had a small team, but after the first trailer, passionate developers (many with industry experience) around the world applied. Something like 10,000 applicants.
Yes, everyone deduce based on the results, therefor the conclusions is wrong.
Indeed. Japan didn't suddenly invent anime, they did low quality anime on every single thing on earth for 2 decades, at a loss, as children videos, to train a whole industry of artists, in a company called World Masterpiece Theater. They did try everything and fail numerous time till they succeed. Too many shortcut culture in India to be patient enough for this. China also took decades after Goku were stolen in Dragon Balls, they finally made it by releasing Black Myth Wukong and take him back.
gaming like this is a luxury in India, India must have at least 5-6 times GDP of current GDP, and people should have money to buy PCs, then we can expect this. We are behind China at least 15-20 years. So many kids just watch games on youtube, assembling PCs videos becz they just can't buy them.
Apt.
youre so wrong here bro ab person who is incapable of buy a game worth 1000 rupees cannot even think about gaming in general
IT IS A LUXURY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CHEAP
@@hypergg681 bhai people are not cheap, for example 1 lac per month in India considered as very good job. Now a console cost you 54000, that is 54 percent of your monthly income, in USA, Europe console will cost you less than 10 percent of your income.
Ek or baat, in EU, US you need to work about 2-3 hours to buy a new game. In India, 4000 is a week salary for starters
@@VinayK22 tabhi toh cheap hae har chiz me jugad dhundo ge fields ki technicalities (depths) me nahi jaoge toh kon paise dega, koi fields explore hi nahi karta, na koi standards or worth set karta hae yaha, self respect hi nahi hae bhai apne aapko sasta hi bechna hae, pura system hi jugadu hae
A game based on Indian mythology would never work because people will get offended VERY quickly and on every step. The developers would basically be walking on eggshells with it. The history is so rich in our country and could lead to insane masterpieces but the sensetive feelings on religion and mythology by the population will always hinder the possibility heavily.
I wrote this comment before watching the video, glad to see he mentioned it ^^
@@AditOverHere just make a scifi game, problem solved. =]
I would say no one prays to Odin, Thor or any Chinese deity, so I could understand Indians being offended about what they believe, you couldn’t do it with abrahamic mythology. Better to just come up with a unique idea.
not sure about Odin or Thor, but there are many Buddhists and Taoists in China
@@Ab_Wolf Many Taoists still pray to the Celestial Court
For PC gaming to do well in India the economy has to do well so that people have income to spare on PCs.
India also has a huge piracy culture that needs to be fixed in order for game developers to actually consider making such games in India.
there is only one market who profiting from piracy and it's game market
Games however benefit from piracy.
@@sendmepicofher5412 how?🤔
People in India would rather spend thousands on skins in a free 2 play game than pay similar amount for a good game. People would rather buy an iPhone to play BGMI than buy a pc or console to play even slightly older masterpieces which don't require an Rtx gpu. As mobile games become more popular in India the prospect of good story driven experiences become more unwanted.
@@subhadeepjasu292 no bro i don't agree, as a gamer myself i got bored from fps games like valorant, cod and pubg,
and eventually i left playing fps games and now only play story based games for fun.
remember: there is always a limit for everything
If you want things to be said ask Indian, If you want things to be done ask China.
well said. i probably hire an indian to do sales as compared to any other country. indians love to talk and are good with glib of tongue.
We can't make knockoff PUBG let alone a AAA game 💀 China is light years ahead of us
Actually, we ban all Chinese brilliant stuff. That’s why we lag behind.
@@ArthurJason-Constantine I really miss the old TikTok, when there were so many talented ordinary people from India posting videos. They were incredibly skilled at dancing.
@@ArthurJason-Constantine😂😂😂really..
Just shut op
@@birdangry5007😂😂😂😂😂fuck ..
@@secretme6789 You shut up
I genuinely think the rat race in India is the biggest creativity killer for Indians. All we care is cracking JEE, working a stable 9 to 5 job & getting the so-called "settled" tag from our relatives & peers. We are so fixated on following this way of life and it is so deep rooted in our society that it has made us into believing that anything outside of this sphere is failure and thus an average middle class person doesn't even dare to step outside this zone. What we really need is a personalised roadmap for each and every individual, starting from the grassroot level i.e. schools, rather than a one size fits all concept.
Hyper successful aberration tend to move to western nations. In an organization of 1000 you might need 100 aberrations in order to create a game like Wu Kong For India, retaining the most crucial elements of an organization that can propagate change is its number one problem, not raw manpower, not even propagating the talent. The American market will gladly accept an Indian game out of spite for their domestic industry, which is ran by lesbian wasp women with contempt for mainstream society. If one studio could produce an Indian God of war or dark souls to the quality of a AAA title from a previous generation of consoles they would be capable of cornering a broken western market.
Prestige... and worship white people. That's every other post I see on Blind from India.
So right. Not to mention gaming is a taboo in India and so many parents scold their children for playing video games and tell them study instead. I'm 23 years old with a job and even now my parents give me a lot of shit if they see me gaming. This stupid controlling rat parents and their tunnel vision mindset is what ruined India. It almost feels like a curse to be born as Indian I have friends from other countries and I can't help but envy how their lives are infinitely better.
So true
most of our talented people are working out of india
ObIt's clear that if someone's talent is recognized by other countries and they’re willing to pay for it, wouldn't anyone prefer to live in a place with less pollution and more freedom, and with a better air quality than India? It’s a bit surprising that IIT Bombay graduates sometimes find jobs paying as low as 4 lakh per annum. It's no wonder many are looking for opportunities elsewhere!
@@dhairyadoshi508 If 2nd tier college kids are getting 10+LPA why are IITians getting 4 LPA. Definitely a skill isuue.
@@subham.biswas do the math of how many students graduate every year from tier 2,3 colleges? Out of that only 1% gets a job.
@@subham.biswas this fraud logic won't apply
How many tier 2 or 3 colleges' students get 10+ LPA jobs ? It's in finger digit number
As for IITians, *It's the standard to get atleast 10+ LPA job* , and for a general private college, that would be an achievement for any student to get a 10+ LPA job
@@ParthaTH-cam09 yes but those 1% are still getting those jobs instead of the IITians who are not( the remaining ones). If having all the resources and alumni network of IIT , you're not getting a job while a tier 2/3 college student is getting it, then it's definitely a skill issue.
Remember when an Indian game called FAUG was hauled to be the alternative to PUBG? It was not even close to pubg mobile early beta versions before launch.
Indians do overhype everything
It was a waste of such a good name, and a stain now.
@@NarendraSinghRathore-w8y because it was just an opportunity grab same with that Twitter clone jump on nationalism anti china trend get users without any real innovation .
No, it wasn't hauled.it was advertised as alternative for pubg. so game devs themselves messed that up.
@@NarendraSinghRathore-w8yit was a scam .
As a Russian person we have Tetris and I’m happy with this :)
伟大的游戏
Concept artist here! Work for video games regularly and I also have a bunch of friends who work for indian game studios and let me tell you guys not even in the next 50 years will we come close to this. Indian art studios are cesspools of old toxic people who always expect you to overwork while being woefully underpaid and just have no vision or organizational skill to even think about making a good video game or a feature film. It is really bad.
> Indian art studios are cesspools of old toxic people who always expect you to overwork while being woefully underpaid
To be fair, it's the same at any other corporation under capitalism
Communism ka paath paat jhar abhi bhai @@st.altair4936
Well said. Same reason they will not be able to host an Olympic Games in the near future. They hosted a much smaller Commonwealth Games ten years ago. That was a disaster.
man, you're too pessimistic. India is progressing rapidly, just like China did in the past.
I'm a Chinese person working in Japan at miHoYo, and I'm 35 years old. I grew up playing Japanese games, and now Japanese people are playing the games we make.
@@bruces-c3c india is progressing just backwards
Indian kids are still watching chota bheem. You want Indians to make a AAA game? One of the key reasons for BKW to be such a roaring success is that they were able to take their culture and showcase it to the world. If an Indian game came out with any mythological characters, sure enough, shops and buses would start burning.
Don't think so. There are so many animated movies, people would've burned their studio too but they didn't. Same will go with games. But if it is movie like PK then I don't know.
@@a.m.p.3545 because extremist do not play games, they are busy with politics, but if the ad for the game is problematic then it may catch their eye.
@@ModernStupidity-qm3rj No, they only react if the opposite party they had interest is involved with it. Otherwise they don't care about anything.
@@a.m.p.3545 really? think about hunuman instead of wukokg. do you think Hindus will agree to some demon boss can defend hanuman in a boss fight? or maybe the game makes an evil cow boss and we get to kill it, they would go crazy and start roit and kill people. 😂
You are mistaking Sanathan for the cult called islam. Do you even talk to people?
india is too busy blaming the brits or the mughals or china, or anyone else.
India: I have a dream…..another dream.....and another dream…😂😂😂
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Endia: Life could be a dream😂
@@muslimcel4581 bro 💀
@@muslimcel4581 u r a muslim bro...u don't even deserve to comment here ...
but dont have a toilet🤣
People comparing India with China need to calm down.
These countries' governments are completely different. India will not be competing with China on anything anytime soon with the political system they have now.
Yes the governments of democracy and freedom talk alot. Just look at Australia parliment debates. All talk but nothing gets done.
People also need to chill with India vs China war....I don't at all believe that'll happen. From the year 1-1800 both countries have always been the largest economies. They're both FINALLY rising again, having escaped from western imperialism(India had it much harsher), and at a time when they're both rising to the top, only a war between them or around them could end this Asian Century(Centuries) prematurely. That'd be an unbelievable tragedy and I don't want to live in that world. And both countries are rational actors....they may say things for domestic consumption and to bolster nationalism/unity, but they know damn well war must be avoided at ALL COSTS
Yeah. They even banned TH-cam. India shoudl also ban youtube. And also you'll be in Jail if you say this in China.
@@RoRZoro 我就在中国的电脑上给你回复了这条信息！另外中国可以随意评论政府，请走出茧房，打开眼界多看看这个多元的世界吧！
@@RoRZoro Agree, Western platforms are foreign tools for regime change and destabilizing your country. Without having banned all this stuff China would have MANY millions more self hating, west-worshiping liberal types. This was one of their best moves. Also your last sentence is nonsensical....do you honestly believe that?
As a fellow gamer from Bangladesh, I understand what this dude wanted to say but couldn't say due to pressure: We should change our government.
It is not the government, the culture is the problem. Many immigrants from India working in the US has the same cutting corner and pay the lowest invest the minimum culture that they grew their career with in India.
Even you guys have the game Zero Hour which has a sizeable international recognition.
Nah, we have to change the indian people... as long as the people wont change, the governemnt would be the same
Y'all really need to read Marx. "Culture" is shaped by the material reality around us and the system we grow up in; not the other way around.
A change in Indian governance to a socialist system like China's would bring massive changes to Indian culture too, the same way it did for China.
@@maggiejetson7904 I agree! Its not government, but *"CULTURE"*
As an "Indian gamer" who always had the privilege of playing different games across multiple platforms, I never felt like I belonged to the community here. Either people bash you for being too privileged, or fail to understand the importance of video games as serious industry. I personally know people who make a lot of money but will never purchase a legitimate copy of a video game.
For this very reason, I stopped working for Indians in the gaming scene a long time ago.
Happy to be a game writer and reviewer now, with clients who are in the West. I hope countries like China, South Korea and Japan also keep seeing much growth in the gaming industry. I have zero hopes for India, unfortunately.
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India first needs civic sense. Jugaar, greed, laziness, zero quality, mentality like "jo dikhta he woh bikta hai" will never progress in any fields. Always trying to impress their bosses by licking their asses(Yes Saar to everyone). Thats why india is top in corruption too. And those who are really trying also pull down/out numbered by these bloodsuckers society
Keep saying this and this will surely help some studio to make aaa games but alas people like you wont even try to promote just like how raji became popular sadly you have no hopes good for you not for us be happy with that and if we develop that will be the answer for your statement
@@soumyadipmukherjee6627 bought Raji on the first day of release, streamed it for my viewers, wrote about it.
Also going to cover an upcoming indie game from a developer from India. I do what I can, but doesn't mean I am the most optimist person around.
Tell me, what have you been doing?
@@soumyadipmukherjee6627 dude nationalism is not a proxy for quality. Just because I like my country and culture doesn't mean I'll lower my standards and support sub-standard stuff. I myself want to build games in the future, but i want people to play my game cause it's good, not cause I'm Indian. Your attitude is precisely why we aren't that good, do you think these western people play games cause they are supporting their country or because they like the games that come out.
Those who says Chinese are cheap labours they are absolutely wrong.I visited china and experienced they are highly skillful at any work.Their traffic control, roads, building, infrastructure,cleanliness, the security, technology, transportation are next level,they are living in 2050.So don't compare with our country with them.The success of game it's just beginning lot of surpises waiting for us.
Only indians underestimate china
The usa sees china as thier biggest rival
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chapris are abundant(billions) in Indian
Bro you have mistakenly given an url link, which leads to a file where you can see the base css file of some famous brands from dubai🤣💀💀
@@andistheinforitbutso7513 not even chapris but uneducated leaders and conservative parents
India doesn't have to compare to China every time China achieve something. West companies made numerus AAA games and i didn't see India feel troubled any time.
India has longer history, richer culture, more advanced political system, more IT engineers and enterpreneuers, attracts more tourists, much positive global image than China, there is no way India is behind China, sad.
@@ulyssis More positive image? OMG India is a third world slum full of shit, China's third and fourth tier cities look better than New Delhi and Mumbai in India
@@ulyssis I am from Taiwan and have worked in China and Japan for a long time. I have also been to India on business trips. India cannot be compared with China. India should be compared with Bangladesh and Indonesia.
@@ulyssis India was never a country in ancient times, but more like a region. Modern India is a British colony. China was unified more than 2,000 years ago. Neither the Maurya Empire nor the Mughal Empire in India were unified countries.
@@ulyssis Indian entrepreneurs? Indian CEOs are not Indians, they are foreigners working for foreigners. The well-known global companies I can think of in China are Xiaomi, Huawei, VIVO, Lenovo, Tencent, Hisense, tiktok, BYD. I can't think of any well-known global companies in India.
I'm Chinese, I don't really know India but I think India could have the same mindset of China for what I've heard and that is "Fast Money mentality", trying to make money as fast as possible, believe me this game in China was a total surprise no one see that coming and even today despite it success people are arguing if it was worth working on it for 7 years cuz some says that a gacha game make more money, it was not simple for game science to succeed in such environment, both of our countries have more than 1 billion people and the fast money mentality run strong.
A China precisa ser forte é na musica como a Coreia do Sul
@@thiago5372 Are you kidding?
@@李煜-y1g No, why?
@thiago5372 Chinese music is not strong? You searched for china music on TH-cam
@@thiago5372 China needs to be twerking on stage like South Korea
They had to go all around China to scan those unique buildings because those are not in the Unreal 5 assets library.
Exactly, the reason why the world in BMW is so stunningly breathtaking is due to the efforts taken. Mf wanted to half ass using stock asset and expect the same result.
Yeah the way he wants to cut corners in this video would make for a very clunky game lol
issue: cannot sell AAA PC games
cause: general public too poor to buy PC
Yup simple we don't need a video for this
Everybody can afford a pc.
Not everybody can afford a 4070 or 4090 GPU.
Wukong needs a very powerful GPU to run.
You can sell to the Europeans. Have you considered that?
@@hippocreationyou need an rtx 2060 you need to read the requirement
@@Airex.69420 I know that’s the minimum req. But if you want to see the full grandeur developer wanted you to experience: RTX4070 or 4090
Its quite simple
China does while India talks. That's the difference between the 2 nations and also why India is at least 50 years behind China.
We are democracy they are communist dictatorship difference is there
50 years? Have you seen their transportation or infrastructure? We're centuries behind them
@@kunalverma-ij3zvTrue!!
All south asian country sucks. The best one doing so far is india but still no way comparable to china.
@@kunalverma-ij3zv Have you never seen Indian PPT? In PPT, India is 100 years ahead of China! Development is so tiring. We only need to keep changing the PPT to stay ahead of China for 100 years.
As a person with Chinese background, and also my understanding of the demographics of India:
China did not suddenly make a triple A game overnight as you mentioned.
The market took around 15 years of maturing, from low budget domestic RPG games to flagship mobile phone games like Genshin to test the waters.
India as far as I know thrived in domestic pop culture like Bollywood, but rarely touch the gaming market as much as China.
It would be best for India to start off with good mobile games that have positive international feedback, then move on to larger console and PC games.
It is a shocker that India, with immense man power and peak tech engineers to miss out this huge market gap in India.
Much more crucial in my perspective for India, is to find a fusion between traditional Indian art and modern technology.
It feels like the traditional side of India and the modern part of India is completely isolated at the moment, which is not ideal for representing your culture internationally.
I don’t think we should even compare ourselves to China right now🙂
No you should , and bring the chnages they did minus their govermental evils
@@SamX-dc6mq Their country is doing well because of their government, not in spite of it. Good government policies are the key to the success of a nation; don't be misled by Western propaganda.
@@natn41r Their current govt is autocratic at best you can call it benevolent dictatorship. If things go south (which you saw in 50s and 60s and will see in this very decade itself) it will create a demon like mao xe dong
@@SamX-dc6mqevil for what? Chinese people are well mannered then you guys... Halki si fight ni hoti ki man bahan ki gali start kar dete Hain...
@@SamX-dc6mq the fact that you're complaining is funny because people in the comments section are pointing out that indians who compare themselves are the reason why India hasn't made any game that's in similar scope to Black Myth Wukong.
8:20 yes there was an Indie developer who created a game on Indian mythology, but it wasn't AAA title as no investor would risk putting the money.
Raaji?
The name of the game?
then they should keep making small games and save the money, then make the triple a game. edit: no investors needed.
Because Indian Mythology won't sell outside of India....Wukong is already a well known figure in US and EU so it did great
@@Adityanew0307True, Wukong is known worldwide mainly because of Dragon Ball. Goku being based off SunWukong pretty much boosted his popularity
I am Vietnamese, Vietnam and China do not like each other, when China released Black Myth Wukong and achieved great success, the Vietnamese government immediately proposed a law to support game making. And Vietnamese netizens actually think a country like Vietnam is capable of making a AAA game, that makes me laugh so hard. Saying that is like a child saying he wants to be an astronaut, not impossible but the possibility is less than 1%.
I don’t see why you can’t make a AAA video game with state sponsored capital. The question is why?
vietnam have potential to making AAA game they just lazy or not bothering dive into gaming industry
Vietnam is nothing without China
@@pansky7656 and india is nothing without china,pakistan,israel u are western slave so u should known ur places
@@rudysmith1552 No, making 3A game needs more than just capital, it needs talent and market. How many vietnamese are rich enough to play 3A games? just take a look at the amount of vietnamese in steam or console sales in vietnam then figure out if the market can make a 3A game profitable in domestic market. You can try to aim for international market, but what is the chance they are going to like vietnamese style content? You still need a strong domestic market first to at least absorb the majority of the sales just like wukong. Then the question is why? soft power projection of course. Hollywood, Kpop, Anime all brought incalculable benefit to their country of origin, much more than what money they can earn. It makes a country a trend maker and it benefits all products and services associated with the country. A few more wukong-like success and you will start seeing the rise of Cpop worldwide or Chinese movies worldwide. Chinese brands will shoot up in popularity and Chinese people no longer viewed as backward. I am pretty sure that is what the Vietnamese gov want for vietnam.
I am a game developer, and trust me, we can build AAA games in India. The only problem is whether the game can repay the investors and if global players will accept it. Just look at the film industry, only a few films have been accepted in foreign countries. For example, despite having a big budget and extensive marketing, films like Kalki didn’t get accepted by international audiences.
The thing about Wukong is that everyone around the world has heard about the Monkey King story. Their cartoons and movies were already globally popular, giving them an advantage when working on the game. When they released posters and demos, the world was already interested because they were familiar with the character and connected with it through movies and animation series.
To my knowledge, we don’t have any such character or story from India that is globally recognized. When people talk about India, they often think of poverty, chicken tikka masala, or Gandhi. There isn’t a story or character we can sell to the international audience. Obviously, we can’t make a game about Gandhi fighting the British with his stick because Gandhi’s freedom struggle was about non-violence. Additionally, we can’t make money from the Indian market because the majority of people don’t have high-end laptops or PCs at home. Even working professionals in IT or other industries who have high-end PCs are unlikely to pay ₹2500-3000 for a game when they can download it from torrents.
Nah you are wrong
Who even once tried to figure out that which country has made hitman 2
People will play any game if its fun
Plus games are very different than movies
I agree with your comment for the most part. We don't have to make a game that only showcases India. The Japanese don't make games that only showcases unique Japanese culture, on the contrary they make just fun games. In India we could make games which are just clones of games and try and sell them. This way we can develop talent and increase adoption by everyone in India, then focus on a game that uniquely displays Indian culture.
bro that movie has been shame they stole other artists works to make that movie how can u expect that after doing such stupid thing other countries will appreciate.. Indians can only steal but cant create something on their own..
Why do you even need to focus on god's and their stories.. is that the only genre ? Start making games like my friend Pedro first. Kalki didn't hit the audience because it sucked ! I'm from Mumbai and that south indian overacting doesn't work with me. The first scene of Amitabh being young killed the movie for me there itself. There's are lacs of people out there with very high spec'd PC. And due to all political propaganda people here are really patriotic. They'll buy shit in the name of India. Dude, just make good games that's all.. I understand investors aren't investing but rest of all are just excuses.
@@AakashKale27 Agreed! 💯
Infosys was personal
china does it right, india cant...
Sudha Murthy should be jailed
Infosys...... companies who contract to them never got a good finished result and have to either hold those guys' hand to build it right, or to take it back and do it themselves.
Excellent analysis, Being a game developer myself and having worked at gaming start ups I can recall the moments where we used to discuss game ideas and designers always used to suggest ideas where their design shines and it doesn't matters whether users will like that idea or developers will able to execute that in time and budget and vice versa.
Indian gaming professional here - Good summary! Here are my 2 cents:
- Gaming is high art. We have not done it well with animation industry as of date in India for the last 2 or 3 decades, let alone gaming.
- Having high end technology is akin to having an expensive pencil and that alone does not make you an excellent artist. The missing pieces are compelling story telling skills and extra ordinary visualisation skills. A combo of these two are rarest gemstones one can find. This won't come just because we have funding, or tech.
- The few Indian gaming companies are copying other globally successful games(mostly casual or mobile games), with MAY BE a few trivial changes here and there.
- When it comes to engaging the player, patience is the name of the game. I have not seen one company putting in the discipline and patience in building a really successful and truly delightful casual game, let alone AAA from India.
Summary: Patience, discipline, compelling story telling skills, brilliant artistic abilities are gravely missing. We have all the money, talent, and resources.
Honestly, with the current mindset of any average entrepreneur, we can't build successful games, let alone great games.
Deeply believe that
Successful games are the highest form of expression of technology, culture, art, and creativity
Japanese dump a ton of money making children cartoon for every single world famous children stories, in a company called World Masterpiece Theater, for almost 20 years. This is definitely money losing but it build a whole generation of artists who grew the entire Japanese anime industry. India need to do the same if they want to be the best of anything in the world.
this cannot happen until Government of india stops this.
taxes like America,
Facilities like Africa.
conversation closed. 💀
This happens because people choose to vote on Ram! Jai Shree Ram! 😂
Shit logic... this happens because people would rather blame the government than doing shit themselves XD
@@abhisheks8017better than ola party 😂😂😂
Who scammed lakhs of crores as in shree ram party government India makes thousand of startup and billioners the growth rate suddenly increases to 7%
But andhnamzi like you can't see 😂😂
@@cinnamonshake45 ahh I see, so we should pay taxes to government so that we can do things ourselves? There's a reason why the government exists, it is to serve people with better facilities
@@mr.p1759 lmao youll not be getting anywhere with that attitude... go enjoy your government subsidies and remain in the sub standard realm ig
I hope I can play India AAA games one day, India have so many gods and myths to tell the world, India movies are very popular in China, but i never heard of any india game.
--Love from China🥰
As a cs major student, i watched a lot of india youtuber to learn code,, I know how clever indian are, so i believe india has the ablitity to create a AAA game.
Yep...Chinese here as well. Their ancient history is incredible...but modern India is really struggling, despite nominal GDP growth. Lots of things holding them back which can't be solved over night. But all this comparing is silly and in fact only assists western intentions to divide and conquer
@@JayLim72890% indian population are poor and we cant afford pc or console also we not interesting in gaming industry we rather going work to feeding our family than waste time on video game
Raji is a decent AA game but I think it didn't do well. India simply don't have a gaming culture it's just 13 year old kids playing PUBG on mobile.
Ask yourself why there are no Indian software or websites or code in anything.
Anyone can make program with no reak big capital, and even one person can create a game or program, and India has millions of IT grads and coders. But not one global good software in anything..
Why not? Isn't India democracy and conducive to innovation and china is dictatorship and can't innovate or do anything good, yet here we are..
The Chinese builds a bridge in 3 years. We Indians pland and ponder for 3 years, then there's debate between different groups. Then there's further more discussion about benefits and disadvantage of building a bridge. Then we start doing it.
3 years? no! chinese can build a bridge in 3 days if it is necessary
I'm not joking with you. You will never understand how intense the competition for jobs is in China. If I assume that I buy something on Taobao today, I would theoretically receive the goods the next day, and the prices are unimaginably low. Two days ago, I was in Shenzhen, dining at a restaurant where I ordered a table full of dishes, and if i cant see the dishes on my table in 30 minutes, it would be free.
The competitiveness of Chinese people is beyond what Indians can imagine, and you definitely won't understand how much pressure there is to study in China.
@@chingtowong130 I am aware and I respect it. But three years it just an example not exact time
@@MrBiswas123 I know you were just using a metaphor, but I just want to tell you that you may still be underestimating the drive of the Chinese people. I am from Hong Kong and worked in the toy industry, collaborating with American companies. Americans are also surprised by the competitiveness of the Chinese. In China, people use the term 'juǎn' (卷) to describe this somewhat pathological competitiveness.
996 is a common working norm in China, meaning working from 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM, six days a week. I just want to tell you why it’s not a coincidence that a game like 'Black Myth' can be developed by 140 people in China; it’s a natural outcome.
@@MrBiswas123 I hope that when Indians compare themselves to China, they will take the time to understand the stories behind the Chinese people. They should reflect on whether Indians can match the same drive and sacrifice as the Chinese. You know, every time I hear these comparisons between India and China, or even the audacious claims that India will surpass China in the short term, as a hong kong chinese, I feel deeply disrespected. The Chinese are a group filled with ideals and responsibilities, behind every success, there are so many sacrifices and struggles.
There is a saying in China: 'Attitude determines success or failure.'
4:30 you missed stating the arts and cultural background which impacts game development. It is not just a tech solution, games are a livable journey.
both are important
This is such an underrated comment. We Indians simply lack an artistic temper. We thrive in mediocrity and therefore lack the ability to do the mehnat it takes to build a breathing gaming world. I have had a chance to see concept art from gaming studios such as Ubisoft Pune and Gameloft. The kind of work emerging from our Indian studios is very generic and almost always an indianized version of foreign art. Raji is a pleasant exception
@@sca8217 Disagree, art can't come up in poverty. Most of India is poor. This sort of art is luxury.
@@sparshgakhar3017 'art can't come up in poverty '
You might want to reassess that. Most art has come out of limited means.the issue is we Indians are indifferent to art.
@@sca8217 We had grand works of art from when we were rich like Temples, etc. We still have less expensive art with movies, books etc. You just can't put away 500-1000 cr for a game in Indian economy. I definitely don't hold this against the Indian public, cleanliness issues - sure, injustice - sure... but not this. If somebody surprises me with Rajji like game, I will be happy.
China is far ahead than the world right now. Maybe not always good at what they do, they are still doing better.
A much needed video!!
A great man once said..
"Study the past
Embrace the past
Leave it in past!"
What context does it even hold here..?
@@mansishmahakul3052perhaps his mention of cultural sensitivities
@harshbatra4301 Past will be a part of you but it will not define the present you. So you can't just leave past. If you do then you may forget why you're here even.
@@mansishmahakul3052 He's talking about the Indian mentality Past golden bird great blah blah
@@AveragepoliticsEnjoyer "Sone ki chidiya" Meanwhile people dying of hunger as we speak. Indians love living in delusion
Gamer: this game plays like it was made by someone who was making a game they wanted to play themselves. So many games nowadays play like they’re trying to manipulate you. This one just feels genuine.
One can really feel the heart the developers pour into this Game.
When the producer of the game, Feng Ji, was a still fresh college graduate, he wrote a magazine column "Why Games Fail". He went into quite a bit of details of the Chinese gaming industry at the time, but the main point he had was that developers don't play their own games anymore. To him, a game can only be successful if the guys who made the game in the first place had an unstoppable urge to create something fun, and even after years of working on the game, they are still excited to play it. Seems like this is still the mindset Feng has decades later, with millions of dollars of budget on the line.
Exactly.
If you don‘t tell your own story, someone will tell it for you.
Many Japanese and Korean games were based on Chinese mythology. US games were based on European myth and stories.
Soon, Chinese will tell Indian myth and story and make a game of it, and sell to the world.😂
You snooze, you lose.
you are right. even china was baffled when the first kung fu panda movie released. how did the americans made a better movie about their own culture
Wtf.Black myth is Indian myth??? Are you serious???
india myth is boring,lame they will not take inspired india fairytale
I thought Chinese proudly said they do not care about India?
@@gauravk6114 yeah they actually dont care about india and their media neglected everything about india too
Can India make a AAA Game? no. you talk about unreal, do you know how much resources is required to produce game designers that can use unreal effectively? it took China 15 years from when they started training on unreal to develop it talent pool to what it is today. it not like you can drag anyone with a game development degree and he is able to produce the quality for a AAA Game. it goes deep if you want to create the best game, you have to become the best in the field first. AAA is not "entry level" and you can't use entry level designers who doesn't know what they are doing.
furthermore AAA game ROI is not good, so it does not make sense for anyone to upstart in the game industry making AAA Game, Wukong is their 3rd game after they have develop their team to take this challenge. as to market, domestic market is really not important since game function effectively as retailable services, just like how you can sell Indian software to global market, you can sell Indian game to global market, the market penetration of India itself is not that important. of course for Wukong, they did take advantage of their domestic market, but it is not a requirement to be successful, it is just harder to capture the global market which is more competitive. I do game development in Singapore, we hardly have an domestic market. on government policy, you can attempt to attract major studio to establish a base in a city, and build a digital media cluster around that city. possibly tax free, with free office space, get them to come and they will figure out how to create the talent you need, and once these talent exist in India, they can found their own companies.
lastly the point of outsourcing, you imply it is difficult to outsource the development of games. when it reality most of the work in Wukong and many AAA games are outsource, and this is the result of the production cycle of game is irregular, another words, you need different people for different duration for different stages of development, if you hire everyone to work inhouse, you will have to keep hiring and firing people continously, it is just easily to outsource a different part of the development to different specialised studios that can then pack their schedule by working for several different games. watch the credit carefully, and you will see there are alot of outside involvement in games development. this is why I mention you need to build a digital media cluster, because these companies don't standalone, they support each other and offer each other services.
as to sensitivity of Indian culture and religion, that you maybe right. in which case you can simply choose not to make historical game and focus on future or scifi. why I make games is because I can make anything. the most important thing about game development is not to limit yourself to an idea on what a game can and cannot be. if you describe to a 100 people, the concept of flappy bird, 98 of them will say it a stupid idea, yet that "stupid idea" works, and people are willing to play it. you don't have to make your game like everyone else. i hope that can inspire some to try their wildest ideas.
i am now at chapter 3 i love this game...................................
If you have a deep understanding of Chinese
You will love games even more because words and conversations are filled with profound philosophy and worldview
@@andyqian1241 i dont even know the culture of china but still i love this game.......
The first thought that pops into my mind is that for an international audience, they have to deal with the Indian version of Wukong dancing before and after every boss fight.
if you have an game idea then start developing. it doesn't need to be AAA budget. it doesn't need to be 3d. just show the world your imagination.
yes do you remember fou g ?
One of the biggest problem is most Indian teenagers don't even have a pc, even if they have, it's a regular one. We also don't even a high-end phone that can support the game. That's why free fire blew up more than pubg. I still remember there was only one rich kid in my class that could afford to play pubg, maybe 5-10 people at max in our entire school and it was a private school. And also job vacancies are pretty low so most people either keep grinding upto middle age or continue their family buisness. Ultimately, most people don't even think about these luxuries. For India to build a game like Wukong, we have to be economically better at door to door level and be more than just lower middle class families. If some Indian developer even manage to cook a masterpiece, they have to rely on international sales. In India, it'll be just streamers buying that game and a few others pirating it
What makes you think the have to target teenagers? All the people I know who played Wukong are over 22 and even most streamers who played it are well over 20.
Also not every game needs to be as expensive and good looking as Wukong to sell good. Look at Elden Ring or Tears of the Kingdom. They still sold over 20 million
It's not like nobody buys games in India, me and my friends in school had PS4's or xbox consoles, I still am an avid gamer and have a great pc and Ps5. Steam and epic have a decent market in India. The ps5 has sold 1 million units in India which is again above average but it's better than nothing.
I saw a kid in a game store in a mall, he wanted to buy 2 games but had money for only one, he wanted The last of us 2 Remastered and Dying light2 for ps5, so I bought him DL2, earlier he didn't accept as I was a stranger but then I gave it to him as a gift, honestly the best feeling in the world. I feel happy when I see more kids and adults game and enjoy it as a hobby. Hopefully it will expand soon and India will also make a masterpiece like Wukong.
@@valentinvas6454 I'm 20 and my friend is 19 and we both pre-ordered Wukong. What's wrong with teenagers playing, teenagers actually are the most skilled and well versed with gaming knowledge.
@@bhabhutiji1169 Where did I say there's anything wrong with teenagers playing games? LOL
@@valentinvas6454 Bringing Elden Ring is kind of silly, you know. We, Indians, generally don't have enough creative minds to write a story like Miyazaki did. It's the culmination of poor education system, lack of infrastructure and every other point that makes it impossible for Indians to foster a gaming culture.
There is 15 year old in India somewhere saying to himself "challenge accepted".
India is no where near China in any metrics...sorry I forgot except population 😂
Lol
They always compare themselves to China. That’s really annoying and offensive to Chinese ppl
If you go and stay in china for few years you will come with a different comment
@@prozac1127 new comment after staying China for a few years: India is not only no where near China but also never have a chance to catch up.
@@prozac1127 my comment would be "Indian chapris will stick to pubg and free fire meanwhile china will always succeed to represent their culture through different ways"
Game Science Team had to go out and scan their assets specifically because Megascan and Quixel doesn't have a lot of assets specific to Chinese Architecture and Environments. The sculptures, statues, cave carvings, all needed to be scanned and incorporated. I forsee this being a problem for Indian cultural specific content as well.
Good point
The guy in the video thinks that India can make a unique and good game for India by reusing the existing 3D assets is hilarious. And he is too optimistic about the capacity of AI in motion capture.😅
as someone who thinks of starting as a solo dev videos like these give so much motivation
I'm a part time game dev. Now that Varun has covered this, that gives me hope as he tends make early bets when they gonna blow up.
I was never a great artist even though I'd love to 3D model and sketch. I've been programming since high school yet barely making close to avg FAAANG. I've despised marketing, but now I've started exploring hooks to get people to play my prototypes. I'm a deeply philosophical as an individual and have been regularly reading and consuming Indian history and lore. I'm proud of it. There's every potential outside this country that can skyrocket my career, yet I choose to stay home hoping that someday things will change.
I guess it takes an orthogonal individual like me: a misfit for other markets and not so perfect skills for the FAANG market, to attempt at something like this. A few years down the line, with my knowledge of Indian history and lore, I'm hoping to make this possible. Wish me luck!
Don't worry the change is around the corner! ⚛🕉✡☸☯✝☪
unique valuable feedback in this thread .good look.
As a pragmatic Chinese, India must first solve the problem of electrical power supply.
杀人 诛心啊，不带你这样的
Lol India's power supply in the Tier 1 cities are better than most western nations😂😂😂 I haven't had a single powercut in about 8-9 months😂😂😂
@@achilles_1118 so it happen before, and India only had one tier 1 city? how about the rest of India? that is the problem, you guys don't care about the rest of the people, why? because hierarchy, you guys differentiate a person by their name. that alone make you guys thousand year behind.
@@vink822 lol Chinese bot, India has 8 Tier 1 cities, not 1. Imagine living in a dictatorship and trying to chat😂😂😂😂 what VPN are you using to hide from Winnie the Pooh right now???😂😂😂 Oh btw, what happened in Tiananmen square? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@vink822 lol nobody is impressed with your tofu dreg buildings 😂😂😂😂 ask Winnie the Pooh what happened in Tiananmen square
After observing the Indians for years and hearing many stories from pragmatic, objective ppl, I have found one huge flaw which the Indians couldn't compete on the big stage. That is they have great ambitions but do not have the will to carry out the difficulties in achieving the objectives. Give u an analogy. It is like a person who has primary school qualification but wanted to take the exams of an undergraduate. The foundations is not there, my friend. China took 4 decades of continued hard work to achieve her dreams on all levels. India doesn't have the patience.
Yes. Their foundation is weak....very backwards...jumping to IT before having a manufacturing base. Their strategy wasn't great because Westerners whispered in their ears great BS which they followed. China rejected western suggestions, while India listened and became a democracy WAY TOO EARLY, before they developed. No developed countries were democratic at their time of rapid development. It slows you down so hard when you really need someone who can forcibly drag the country upwards with an iron hand, without the slow bureaucracy.
Indeed it's many cultural flaws that severely limit what Indians can ultimately achieve. Also it's important to understand that most Indians value superstition and religion over reality and common sense. Chinese don't have these problems.
心比天高，命比纸薄😂
你其实说的还不够准确。1952-1976年之间，中国已经完成了重工业的基本建设以及军工的基本自主（并把产业分布到最偏远的西部，譬如四川的西昌卫星场，成都的飞机制造。重庆的军工车辆），在完全封闭的国际环境中能进行初步的工业自给自足内循环，已经完成了人造卫星原子弹氢弹的制造，这是非常不容易的，现在的人只说1979年后的改革开放，而无人提起毛泽东时代打下的坚实基础。
最厉害的是破除迷信妇女解放（印度现在就深陷其中），土地收归国有，九年义务教育等，都是印度无法达到的高度，在四十年前就已经铺垫了。
所以！毛主席的像是永远挂在天安门城楼上的，后面的无人能取代
就即使是改革开放也没用的其实，还需要别人舍得产业转移给你是吧。好死不死的美国忌惮日本坐大，决心封杀日本，台湾跟大陆重新交好互通来往，导致九十年代日企台企的大规模产业转移。还遇到苏联解体民不聊生，从乌克兰俄罗斯搞来很多高科技人才。这一切，地球上都没人能遇到这运气的
stop spreading wrong information, you cant just use a AI tool to get AAA quality animation in game , you still need a good animator to fix things .
Yea no shit
No you can't atleast not yet
This statement is why a guy like this youtuber will never be able to build AAA quality.
We indian can't even make a decent cartoon let alone a triple A game
Indian cartoons and cgi look as if they were made a middle-schooler. It does have some charm to it but its also embarrassing.
Imagine playing Lord Hanuman as a character. You would never lose a single fight-not because Hanuman is the strongest (which he is)-but because studios wouldn’t want to be reduced to a pile of debris. For argument's sake, let's say they never touch any religious topics. Even then, we would rarely come up with good storytelling, similar to Bollywood, where there are hardly any watchable movies in comparison to the huge amount of content produced. However, I still remain optimistic about the future of Indian gaming. You never know what surprises the future holds.
I think game on Hanuman was made earlier and shut down by so-called religious intellectual because it hurts their sentiments
@@Leo-rd7dtI think it was a mobile game, based on the movie return of Hanuman, where Hanuman Ji is moving is rightward direction and breaking as much pots as possible. I think this was the game...
@@Leo-rd7dt cant blame them
@@Leo-rd7dt You guys really behave like vilayati , completely cut off from our cultural roots and sentiments of our people.
Religion is not a museum, monument, or entertainment.
It should never be reduced to entertainment medium or someone's money making machine.
@@Leo-rd7dtif you are so passionate about games then develop ORIGINAL stories suited to ur games, leave our religion and our religious symbols.
India can only claim that game is based on there culture that's all 😂
india can making cow simulator or street shitting games
@@Rajusharmal 🤣🤣🤣
Journey to the West. Although the protagonist goes to obtain Buddhist scriptures, the content is a story with Taoist culture as the main body.Heaven is Taoism and Chinese ancestors, and monkeys come from Chinese opera stories.
The original form of (india)Buddha is in hell, in charge of death.
In Journey to the West, Chinese Buddha (the incarnation of consciousness) is placed in the sky. He is governed by Chinese Taoism gods and becomes a member of little god.
@@Rajusharmal Chinese Buddhism (Han Buddhism) and Indian Buddhism are different.
Chinese Buddhism is 3 religious combinations 1 . 三教合一 . ( 道Taoism+儒Confucianism+釋Buddhism ). China retains the content of the Buddhist scriptures.
Simple Indian Buddhist ? ancient Chinese do not accept it
From its inception, " Chinese Buddhism" has been influenced by native Chinese religions and philosophy, especially Confucianism and Taoism, but also Chinese folk religion.
Before the emergence of Buddhism, the Chinese did not have the concept of hell. So when the Chinese described hell, they would quote Buddhism.
"Taoism" has formed Chinese culture and Chinese philosophy. (Heaven)
"Confucianism" regulates the moral concepts and etiquette of the Chinese. (Human world)
"Buddhism" affects the concept of life and death of the Chinese. (hell)
@@barbiebarbie1813 Buddhism was inspired from Hinduism. The founder of Buddhism was a Hindu then later became a Buddhist. Hinduism and Buddhism are centuries older than taoism and Chinese Buddhism. When Indian Buddhism spread to China via Tibet, Buddhism was modified by other religions in China and then was called the Chinese version of Buddhism.
Indian Buddhism has ancients texts called tripitakas, sutras, jataka tales etc way older than ancient Chinese Buddhist scriptures.
why India people always want to compare with china 😂😂😂
Because crybabies.
Stay mediocre and sink. We want to rise.
The cost of entry into proper AAA gaming is very high in India. Earlier it was only hardware but now even software clients like Steam have ditched regional pricing. Earlier Steam games used to be priced according to purchasing power of the country, nowadays it's directly 60$-70$ converted to ₹5k. Also the basic idea of what a 'video game' should be is very much flawed here. Indie games and platformer type games don't get respect as people think they are made for kids. Indian rookie gamers prefer graphics over gameplay. This same thing used to happen with anime few years back until the advent of OTT after which people started respecting the idea of animation being a proper medium for storytelling and not just limited to kid's entertainment. Hopefully things change. As a country of 1.4 Billion people one can only imagine the potential of a gaming market.
yes this is main point in India Gaming is only consider as childrens playing things😂😂
If the population can play its role, it is called potential; if it cannot play its role, it can only be called a burden.
Here is my perspective as Game Developer.
You have same Misconception that every Indian Have. if India don't have market of PC & Console Gaming. It Doesn't mean we can't achieve this level of Success.
I always repeat this line "We Don't sell games in Sabji Market, Games are sold on Internet Globally" so Market is same for any game no matter it's from India, China, USA or Uganda etc.
Actual Problem is We Missed Revolution of Gaming. Because "India is still Unemployed & Poor Country". many of us still can't afford basic Technology & Computers & All Current and previous Politicians are responsible for this.
So Simply It Doesn't matter if India have PC gamers or not. Because We have easy reach to global Gamers including US, Europe, China. So Market is same for us.
only thing we are missing is Basic Technology reach which will plant Tech Creations like AAA Games, AAA Movies, AAA Billionaires.
"Gamers are Pure souls they don't care about Country of Origin. Only thing they care about Experience."
I get 100's of messages from students. asking for help to get Computer to do something in Tech, Gaming, Films but they can't afford Computer required for these things.
This is Reality.
We have to pay "Double Price for Computer & Tech Hardware's" Currently. Means Indian Governance is busy making things hard to reach.
This may be true. Growing up in Mumbai, we had the resources to go to lamington road to buy cheap parts for assembling decent gaming PCs . But to build a game development setup from this is near impossible. I remember an animator friend of mine who was working on a short film, leaving his computer on throughout the day to render 5 seconds worth of frames while he went to work. And this was not too long ago.
Meanwhile you have one person development studios from Eastern European countries, who are also poor, but are at least able to afford computers.
Just make a list of 100 Classmates and check how many owns RTX Graphics card and you will see where we are.
I am a 3D design student, I work for advertising as well and most people PCs only has not more than 4GB of Graph Card in college. Only 5-10% has 8GB VRAM. I am the only one in the college who has 16GB RTX 4090. This is the condition of design schools. Average college students condition is way worse.
Nice, Now check " Game Builder Tycoon". created by Indians, in 13 languages, will be published by Playway (a polish game company )
Production quality of this video is awesome. Keep it up man
Varun has started looking a bit creepy... my bet, he is AI!
my bet, you saw that one reel on him.
Lol@@yogyagehlot
Even the voice sounds like AI
This is AI generated, the lip sync gives it away
@@yogyagehlot do you have a link
Part of a big problem os India is still very relgious conservative. This holds the country back.
wtf you are talking , I think you are watching too much baba's videos.
you are absolutley right, and its become worse each day adding to that, younger population are jobless which just ads more jobless people into these areas.
Oh what the f***.. if you make a game like Fauji everyone will get upset...😂😂😂😂 Movies like Kalki earn 1000cr just bcz it was on religion
Hey dum dum. China is only slightly less socially conservative as India.
As for religion. India has more useless left wing progressives than China by a wide margin. Hell the Chinese have successfully blended socialism, a Leninist state and nationalism without falling into left liberal f3t1zhes. Indian secularists are busy running defence for Islamists and crying about hindutva and ISROs pre launch pujas.
This is a question of coherent culture and spare capital. India has neither.
Yes bro
As a guy developing a game engine and aspiring to setup a game studio, more truer words cannot be said. Most people pressure into learning things that what the companies require and do not focus on the creation and innovation side of things.
always compares itself to china, but india is acutally nowhere to china in almost every aspect, sports, gaming...
Well at least Chinese football sucks lol (I am Chinese
@@VVweiways do you think indian football is better?!
Compare Indian football to Chinese, and the result is the same. lol.
@@VVweiways 国足可是福利机构
@@VVweiways Chinese football league isn't sport, it's humor under the entertainment section. lol
India can never compete with China, we are always behind like 50-100 years 😂
patience... you gotta wait for another 200-500 years 😂
10~15 years maybe
@@pelosilee9451 just compare roads
We cant even build vice city, wukong is like type 2 civilization thing for us 😂
Two reasons you forgot to mention for Wukong's success:
1. Woke game journalists and activist tried to cancel the game because they tried to blackmail the studio into putting DEI propoganda in their game and when they refused to do this, all the journalists tried canceling the game, they were giving the game negative reviews even a few days before its release. Gamers saw this and as they've seen games with DEI become souless, a game that is completely against DEI was like heaven to them. It also showed that gamers no longer trust journalists and journalist no longer dictate what becomes popular or played in the gaming market.
2. "Journey to the west" the origin of Wukong's story, is one of China's four great pieces of literature and possibly the most popular of them, so its success in china was invevitable. And in America, many schools students read the story for school projects as well. So it was also popular already in the west, like man come on, its the literal inspiration behind Goku.
Bonus: Just like how Elden Ring got so popular even though other Fromsoft games like DarkSouls didnt, was because it came out in a time where the market was saturated with trash games. And this is the same thing that happened with Wukong, the game industry in the west is is very bad right now. Like look at Concord💀It had double the budget of Wukong andsame development time and staff number yet the game couldnt supass 700 all time high players and Sony shut it down after less than 14 day. All because the game was just bad and also infested bad DEI charecter designs and the game was paid in a market where Hero shooters struggle even when they're free.
"Its life span was outlasted by a bug in my backyard😂"
Yes, this one exactly. It is the DEI controversy that gave Wukong most of its popularity in the west.
Bloodborne was a success and is considered one of the greatest games of all time, because it was breathtaking and what they did was commendable, people literally beg sony to release a port for pc. That tells you how high the demand is.
On a related note, Hogwarts Legacy was "boycotted" by you-know-which community but still managed to surpass 20 million copies 😂
Go woke, go broke…. Go anti-woke, make 💵
@@chubbygamerdad Full support to anti woke movement
Being a 3D artist I have observed Even still meny people play pirated games in India.Therefore no investor is able to invest money.
Piracy isnt the problem, most people who pirate it wouldn't have bought the game none the less, and to be fair the reason that india even has a gaming community is due to piracy, many of those people who were introduced to games through piracy are buying games now.
@@nothing0x4D2 What you say is correct but still some investors are not seeing the potential.
There is no potential as of now
Pc gaming is going backwards in india because of prices or computer components and laptops
New Consoles always have low stocks and are heavily overpriced
Mobile gaming is only big because mobiles are cheaper in india and are a necessity for people.
It's not an investment issue, its a skill issue.
@@meetramani8611 Yeah there are many other reasons.
1) Gaming in India is a luxury. 1 lakh for a pc build along with games ranging from 3-5k. Good luck convincing parents to buy these. Also some families(even today) aren't earning enough to eat or have a sustainable life.
2) India is very sensitive when it comes to hindu mythology. People have backward thinking. Government is backward too. Hate crime in the name of religion happens everyday in India. Good luck convincing them anything related to hindu mythology.
3) Development whether it's a game, website or anything is like a passion. You can't compete with someone if you're not passionate enough. In 2020, government banned pubg. In the name of nationalism, we got a competitor. How good was it? Crap.
4) China as a country is far ahead of India. Look at Olympics table if you need to clarify.
To sum it all up, gaming is expensive. We have government too sensitive to handle anything. No passion from developers and competing with someone that's far ahead of us.
I've always wanted to create a game based on the stories of Raja Raja Cholan, Karnan, Ramayanam, and others. However, I can't dedicate my life to it while I have to provide for my family. I hope that one day I'll be able to do something just for myself.
Did you check out Ayelet Studios?
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In India people were addicted of multiplayer game and most of them don't even try to play other games
"Imagine a game inspired by the Mahabharata, where you can play as one of the five main characters, guided by Krishna. The boss battles could feature epic fights against Karna, Duryodhana, Dronacharya, and others. It would be such a beautifully crafted game!
Indians are sensitive….i remember dragon ball xenoverse 2 getting ban on steam in India because universe 10 god of destruction resembles ganesha lol
And then indians would riot and protest and kill the game and burn down the studio before it's even released because it's against their religion. Lol
I find Raji: An ancient epic shots to be a good point, the game is an indie game developed by Nodding head games and the story and mechanics are good. I hope Varun can do a podcast with them on the their game development journey and other things.
India is still divided 😂 and possibly never can be united
Divided by caste, United on the railway tracks💩 😂
@@Devildemon74 nah we are even divided into looks and colours north vs south vs north eastern ..we are divided into religion also ..
Something to add here is that Wukong is inspiration behind Son Goku and Son Goku is behind Goku of Dragon ball series, one might say wukong is inspired by Hanuman ,Dont know about that but lot of similarities exists between their individual stories and myths, also wukong text is known as "Journey to the west" where west is India 🇮🇳 as wukong makes the journey in search of immortality.
I feel the best game on indian mythos and stories will be made by indians outside India, sadly.
Great video, Varun.❤ Loved your take on this topic.
dude its amazing how youve made this whole video with ai..🔥🔥🔥 some parts missed the lipsinc other than that its awesome .. excited to see how far can you take this
Thank you. That's the first thing I noticed and it's crazy how many people are NOT talking about it.
More game analysis, thanks Varun for picking this up.
I am from Malaysia n in the Animation industry. This is the most comprehensive, well researched, non bullshit, practical, yet humble video on--not just video game--but media business in general. Some of the hurdles u mentioned India is facing is just the same as us in Malaysia. I hope u keep making more practical business content like this. God knows TH-cam is riddled with too much get rich quick gurus n clueless salty gamers.
Without earning from the game for minimum 5 years If a company can pay developers and designers, then we can make a AAA game
India should develop a Phantom Blade Zero type of game focused on Indian martial arts instead of Wukong.
Also a fighting game like tekken,Mortal kombat will be great start as well.
maybe stop comparing and realise that China is on a completely different level. Having a good understanding of yourself is the first step towards self improvement
Easy, in comparison, India has a very radical society to the world. A AAA game is an art form which needs the wings of creativity and freedom to which, the Indian population will always raise criticism and potentially violence against the developers and the company developing the said game. Imagine a product that is so hampered by your own country's people, politicians, bureaucrats and investors, one would simply accept their losses and move on rather than making a game like Wukong in India.
6:30 bro what, Interstellar was animated in India? 💀
Your script writer was stoned before writing this ig
He was talking about the visual effects, cgi development in many hollywood movies being outsourced to countries like India.
Will not be surprised if it was. A lot of the animation for Hollywood movies does get done in India - have a look at the credits of a few movies. Which makes it even more frustrating that we (Indians) can't make something homegrown with the talent we have. :)
The mythology point is so accurate. India has so much to offer, with countless storylines to explore. We just lack the minds and resources to bring them to life. It’s like having a Lego set in a box, just waiting to be assembled and shown to the world.
Man, I’d love some amazing new AAA games from India ❤
we wont get it
@@shubhsharma19 give it 5-10 years. Game dev is becoming more and more democratized just like the video said 😊
@@stanis_gaming I agree with you. We just need time
@@stanis_gamingMore like 50-100 years. Trust me, we won’t be seeing a AAA game from India in our lifetime.
Basically impossible, unless the AAA game budget becomes lower, even in countries like China, AAA game is also a huge investment
As a Westerner, I think it would be cool if India launched a Ramayana or Mahabharata inspired game, for PS or mobile
It will happen eventually will take lots of years tho once india develops, purchasing power increases and pc/consoles are made in india just like smartphones are now only then it will happen
Mobile gaming only became big in india once smartphones became cheaper earlier taxes were really high
Dude, do you want studios to be burnt to ground 😅
That will only happen if they disrespect it, its Hinduism not !slam
Hindus are way more tolerant thats why so many people who are openly mocking Hinduism are still alive@@metaterrestrial197
Gaming chapris should stay away from our culture.
😂bro cancel culture is in peaks in Indian market
Don't forget the constant attack from Gaming Journalists, calling the developer team misogynist and the game lack diversity and inclusivity which just make gamers want to support it even more.
Well said
Next thing you know there would be a million how to make videogame coaching centres in INDIA instead of actually making a game
Chinese respect their culture. If I make a hanuman ji game no one will buy it because it's hindu or Indian culture.
That's because China already united, with same culture & languages.
For India, u have too many different languages, cultures & religious, to make successful game, u should think of character, story, form, or something that the most Indian will accept. Or it doesn't need to be Indian religion related, u just need a funny good game (like most of the successful games), then the whole world will buy it.
@@emhgarlyyeung Yes. But not as much as black myth wokong. It's the most successful single player game now. Only because of the culture it belongs to. It had the history, company did the marketing....Boom. And about India, the moment I started talking a game about Hanunan Ji, you immediately jumped in bringing other unknown cultures. God knows what you'll do if someone actually makes a game on Lord Hanuman. And for your kind information, Monkey King Wokong is inspired from Hanuman Ji.
@@connorjade5460 Haha, nope, there is no proof, and these two are totally different in every expects. WuKong were actually expanded based on China older character Wu ZhiQi, WuKong and Wu ZhiQi were both demon/monster, both powerful and able to shape shift or transform, both were suppressed under mountain by someone stronger, both were rebellious personality. Compare to WuKong, If Hanuman similar 2%, then Wu ZhiQi similar 30-40%.
@@connorjade5460 Pls be confident on your own culture, good luck in making your AAA game.
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This is literally the first video that came as soon as you type sun wokon and hanuman
We cannot do this because even today if you get placed in a company with even a ₹2L/month salary, the first question that gets asked it,
"WHAT IF THE COMPANY FAILS?"
so forget being able to work in a GAME STARTUP that initially will definitely not be even paying that High Salary.
Yes, but if we go to Europe, US or Canada and do this same Game Developing job there, then it is okay, cause that is a STATUS SYMBOL.
so it cannot happen here.
Biggest reason is, we are a country of engineers and doctors. Taking arts a career path is looked down upon. The pool of good artists is limited. To make a game like wukong you need a country which respects art as a career. Let's say you try to make a game like this in India, the engineers who do not have a sense of good art would have more say than an artist because well, that's how it works here. Also, encouraging people to use AI like you do in the video will result in the most generic ass looking games. Wukong works because you can see the insane art that went into it. Art specific to china. You tech bros are part of the problem. Good movies, music, books and art do not always have a "tech solution". It needs culture behind it.
Easy Look At the Cities in India And Look the Cities In China,