In the gacha version you can disable the auto aim and use a manual aim system somewhat like the MercurySteam Metroid games, so I assume OffDive here would have that as an option somewhere.
I wish it was more like the MercurySteam Metroids, X DiVE's dual stick is so much clunkier. The option to disable it is fully intact in Offline though.
The main draw for me always was the unlockable content. I think I'll be happy with it even with it's dumbed down gameplay cuz it is a mobile game after all. To be honest I wish this would be standard practice whenever a live-service game gets discontinued. I can only hope Digital Extremes does the same to Warframe cuz that game has LOTS of content and story that is perfectly playable solo.
See? That's what i think as well. They need to do something like this to Warframe because the more the game proceed the more abusive the gameplay are. Sure back then there's defenders saying "it's not pay2win it's space trading blablablablabla" But: There's grinding to unlock primes and then grinding the materials and then waiting for it to "primed" aaargh. They add the "Riven" upgrade card mechanic to uncap the card and introduce OP effects but that became pay2win as unlocking the Rivens require the players to do nigh-impossible feats. There's also Kuva Lich and Sisters of Parvos, which reduces your rewards until you grind harder and guess to find the way to beat them and choose between taking their weapons or making them join you. After hooked for 434 hours in the span of 2017-2019, i stopped. Nowadays it remains as the longest hour of all my Steam games.
@@meyers0781dude I made a thousand plat just farming random relics I had and selling mods from arbitration. Its a grind for sure but farming plat basically allows you to skip the even worse grind for certain shit. I straight up bought Baruuk prime off a player a couple of months after his release for like 200 plat.
@@meyers0781I also get the socializing part for plat sucks. I remember when i first started I got nervous when talking to people for trading I still wish Warframe just had a trading board to remove talking to people. Still though most people are pretty chill and are willing to pay price you asked for.
I doubt it but I really hope this becomes the standard in mobile games. Once the servers go down just release premium offline version. It's great for game preservation
One thing I can say is the game does work as a great intro title. The kinda title you recommend to people who are not great At side strollers or mega man. I sat that because my 65 year old mother who never played game played and enjoyed it.
I spent a lot of time (and money uuuuugh) on the original version and I'm actually completely okay with the offline version not allowing you to transfer data, since progression is about 1000 times faster. I've gotten a higher power level in 30 hours than I was able to in the 300+ hours I spent in the Gacha version, not to mention unlocking nearly every character and weapon. I do think this game is missing some key features, namely the ability to reassign manual aim, as well as an option to disable auto aim, which was in the original version, but isn't in the Offline version for some reason. I also hope a modder can come in and clean the controls up just a bit. The fact that tapping the jump button gives you a max height jump every time is really annoying. Also, the menu theme being the character select song from X4 is such a horrible choice. Idk why they didn't just use the menu theme from the Gacha version. The 5 second loop is insanely grating after a while.
Still better than the “free” to play version where the devs and publishers were relying solely on people spending thousands of dollars on these games to keep the servers and future content going otherwise if they had made no profits on them then the online version of Megaman X dive would’ve ended years ago. I’ll gladly take the offline preserved version without the ridiculous predatory gacha and RNG system from the online only “free” version of the game where it could take you months to a whole year to get all the stuff you want unlocked without paying additional money for a CHANCE to get them alongside not having to deal with the horribly structured unbalanced PVP mode where half the time people are AFK anyways.
The roster is fun. Don't get dive cross MegaMan exe early or every character available will just seem dull. Played it for a few days and now it sits gathering storage space.
Didn't play on mobile but I'm a hardcore X fan. For all its faults I'm really enjoying this and its much more fun than X7 and 8 combined to me. It's not X9 but the RPG elements are something they were leaning towards with the later games. Kinda reminds me of Dynasty Warriors with a MMX spin.
2:00 you can turn off auto aim in option when you are in the pause menu in a mission(not in main menu), it's make the game way more fun and harder. Personaly, I have great time with the game and I know it's not for everyone, but hey at least you can play Ciel. (I take everything that offer more Megaman Zero stuff XD)
Sorry you didn't like. I personally love it a lot, 80 hours in, still enjoying and finding new ways to play, unlocking stuff, just wish the story was better written. Also since its just a port game, I assume the little bugs I found will never get fixed. That said, since I'm still putting hours into it and enjoying the game, its well worth the money for me.
The gameplay options like turning off the auto aim can't be found in the main options menu, you actually have to be in a stage and press (your version of) Select. I actually use Steam Input to change a few things like making the manual aiming be tied to my Up Button so I can aim upwards for those hard to reach enemies. But yeah this game is super clunky, that is literally the best word to describe how the game feels especially compared to other Mega Man games. Funnily enough the game plays a lot like Mega Man X7's 2d sections even down to the auto aiming. Hopefully mods can fix these issues and we can get the true X DiVE we always wanted.
I will try ot out one day. It seems interesting. I'm not shocked those people didn't get to keep all their unlockables. Mobile games are like MMOs. Once the service is shut down.. it's gone forever. I see them as an tv show. I play it for a couple of seasons & then i switched to a different one. That's just how online games are. It's rare for one to last five years. WOW been around since i was in jr high (2003). Or maybe before that too. But that kinda of stuff is rare. Most online games never last that long
Yup, meanwhile you can farm hundreds of characters on coins alone for offline, even if it would be a hilarious prod if they kept a `coin based gacha` so off-line play could let you do the same gag as `Genshin Wish Simulator` so your playing the equilvency of a rogue`like to challenge yourself a smidge. Such as only farming previous stages whenever you fail the latest stage. Guess people can always spin a paper wheel for that fix of silly.
As someone who recently finished the online version's main story, I'm not in a hurry to play the offline version. I'll just wait for the sale or for a version ported to the Nintendo Switch.
I’ve played on the online North American server from day 1 to the last day it was online. I had every X character & was super far in with stats. Now that every character & stats I had are gone I’m not willing to spend $30 just to start over. Also Ultimate armor X had the legacy armor as a skin, but it like was $10. So yeah that’s gone too
I mean the offline version technically gutted the gacha elements and mobile game elements and if its a 5 GB sized title you can play anywhere without needing a network connection, could be a good time killer. Though its a shame they axed the collab-specific content, but i assume that part of the reason could be since they were limited time only content only, if they even had reruns to allow chasing the collab content to begin with. So i would likely compare it to the `Console version` of battle cats which was also a revamped off-line playable version of a mobile game. Snatching it up on discount would probably be the way to go, but its likely more marketed to those who won`t have the copium regrets of being deep into the online version, but would be better for those who wanted to play, but didnt want to deal with the retarded level of daily shenigans. Seriously, the ridiculous commitment to the PvP specific daily content was what drove me away before i locked it to a secondary time killer title for me. Excessive Daily burn out seems to be what always kills mobile game hype for me most of the time.
I'd rather them (developers in general) release these kind of games that are online only in offline form as well with a fixed price. Devs should do this more often tbh.
I mean, if it does not have all the loading hook ups, you dont have to be goaded into spending `additional micro transactions`, because it no longer needs that `online service only requirement`, it already sounds like a more enjoyable experience. Another thing that kills `online service games` is having too much `lag` between stages, menu hopping and so on. It would be more nice if more EoS games got offline formats, but some games would require too much work to revamp ALOT more elements to fit that(Even worst if they have a un-optimized bloatware size they would need to funnel into a package then use a server for it instead). Which could lead to them just demanding 60 dollars, or splitting things up into DLC `packs` to pay for the `remastering` expenses. Plus, if its a permanently offline format, that just opens things up for modding for the dedicated fans. Seriously, its definitely a much better deal then those single player games that either demand a perpetual internet connection to even play on a console game or forces micro transactions into a single player game, even going as far to have `paid gacha` in said single player game. @@Chronuz
I actually did get to play this game before it went End of Service and… I threw ten bucks at it for supporting the game in the hopes it might lead to it getting something more for Megaman X. It’s sad that this is the best thing that’s happened to X in years, as far as fully new content goes. I’m waiting for a sale on this game. Or a price reduction. 20 dollars is the highest I’ll go for this game, having already gotten to try it.
This game may not be for me, but I can appreciate defunct mobile games getting re-released with offline versions for preservation. If they released an offline Dragalia Lost, I’d probably buy it.
Playing since beta, and not at all furious. Any mobile game is destined for death when its server shuts down, so the fact that Capcom released an offline version is a welcome relief. I can't tell you how much I wish Nintendo had given Dragalia Lost the same treatment. My only gripe is they took out the crossover content with Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, and Devil May Cry. They're all Capcom properties anyway, so what gives?
those character anims on the select screen are pure (non pervy) fanservice. As a mm fan I'm keeping my eye on it, but as a longtime gamer, yeah the simplified combat would probably affect long time enjoyment I'm also worried that it's still time-grindy (this is the other half of fixing a gatcha. Part 1 is getting rid of the paid main currency, but part 2 is getting enough of said main currency to efficiently enough, get what you want, without costing too much time. Time cost is expensive, the older you get, the more valuable time is), since that is non-ideal and still a cost to me (though I'm glad the char unlocks sound like they happen frequently enough)
Hey now Capcom make a sale for this game, until 7 January, I think this was the cheapest price capcom offer now, so is this still worth to buy? There's many people that are say yes and no make me confused, please tell me is this worth buying & playing?
So I’m gonna ask this straight out. Is EVERYONE a playable character in this version? I ask because I’ve been playing the Gatcha version for a long time now and I feel like there are way more than 40 playable characters (I even played the Japanese release before it came to the states and I feel like the states version is missing some from the Japanese release too). If this game doesn’t include everyone you could obtain via the gotcha version then it’s not worth the $30 to rebuy this game. Anyone know?
10hrs in and i love it Its addictive and what you would expect a megaman game with rpg elements Just pick up and play with whatever hero or weapon you like, easily caters to everyones playstyle Want to be a badass zero, or a hot waifu with big guns, the choice is yours
This feels like a fair review, can you confirm if the collaborations are still there or not? I did try the game...but timing among other stuff kept it at edge for me.
I will say there are modders working on the collab stuff plus other customizable options. As of 9/28/23, they have the DMC Crossover content added back in.
Does anyone in this comment section here live in Europe? I need to know if the systems for money have changed to Euros cuz it's saying it costs 29.99 €? I dunno if they just changed the mark for money on bank accounts or if it costs in Euros. Just adressing that in Europe since 2023, the main currency changed to Euros (1€=7.5$ in Europe).
Let's not pretend we don't know why these free games are free in the first place. It's completely understandable why they want to charge for this version the only problem is the price point being about 10-15 dollars more than it should be. In its original state and other games like it it's 100% appropriate to have that kind of monetization. People gotta make their money somehow they only make it free for ease of access. I think it's kinda ridiculous that the stigma of microtransactions has reached a point where it's demonized even for the free games it belongs in. If a triple a game you payed for to begin with has microtransactions you can be mad but not here.
If you plan on completing the game, It’s far cheaper to spend a one-time $30 price tag than downloading it for free with gacha elements where it can cost thousands of dollars with IAPs. I’m glad they went this route.
That will be a fair point, if the gatcha did not exist in the first place, this will only make a percentage of the players that spend a lot of money in the game to not play new titles of capcom with gatcha and just wait for the offline, and the worst part is that the you can't tranfer the data, capcom should give the game for free to the dolphins and whales.
@@ZATCHBELL2007 Why do you think I don’t play these mobile F2P games? They can put people through financial ruin if you have any sort of compulsive or addictive personalities; whether or not you’re willing to whale is pointless anyway because on 5-7 years, the service gets terminated on them usually, making your financial (usually) power-crept investments all for naught anyway
I would have bought the game if it hadn't been for the hefty pricetag. I will follow the suggestion and wait for the sale. Edit: Bought it during the December sale. It's so worth it.
mannnn, if only the game play is better, this game would be a money steal!! Everyone knows side scrolling game fight don't really have autolocks, looking at some famous titles too: hollow knight, terraria, mario, and megaman other than this
Well it’s better then most app games with stories, when enough players finish the story, the App disappears and the players who start later can’t finish it.
Yeah...just get 30XX instead if you want anything with substance. I'm gonna get X Dive at some point since its pretty much the one Mega Man game I havent played, but it always seemed very bland aside from that artwork.
I got this to play on my steam deck and it plays pretty well. I never really got into the gotcha version and this is pretty much a fan service game so far. Best parts for me are no micro transactions and no need to log in daily like you would with a normal gotcha game or you lose out on rewards. I got it cause I was curious but I do agree with you if someone can wait for a steam sale on it I would.
That's the risk they take with gacha games, these getting out of service happens all the time. Except that normally the game disappears forever, in this case they should consider themselves lucky that they can keep playing. This should be common practice when gacha games close. At the very least i hope that makes people more mindful about spending money on such games knowing it could be gone just like that.
I got it day 1 and I've spent a lot of time & money in Nebula Joys Global version... Been Raiding in the Factory Guild Wily so I've not exactly been playing like a casual user... That said I think there was a great opportunity kinda missed by the marketing department to make it clear this could be a great easy entrance point to an otherwise well known difficult series...
Never played it because it looked like it didn't know what it wanted to be. I do however always check out videos about all the characters, models, and Animations
This absolutely should not be $30 given the experience is overall shallow and grindy. If only we could get an actual Mega Man title with this level of fanservice.
I hear the sentiment that "This should be the standard for games going EOS". But its honestly the bare minimum. Or depending on your standards, worse than the bare minimum. First of all lets get this out of the way, even if Capcom didn't see the worth in continuing service, theres no doubt that this game was PROFITABLE (atleast in 2021), as in it paid itself off in spades. So when I see a 30 dollar price tag, I feel like I shouldn't be paying for the content that ALREADY exist in the game. Of course it takes money to rebalance and retrofit a title like this... but what did they really do? Well they removed whole characters, coop and pvp, and whole stages and bosses tied to those online functions. You're paying 30 dollars for 70% of a FREE game. And I know no game is free, removing F2P mechanics warrants charging the new adopters something, but I really want to emphasize not only is it not upgraded or remastered, its LESS. And I get that some players of the original will actually say "well it not that bad of a value" but I can't really ascribe to that, because often times thats in reference to the theoretical price it would cost to grind for characters. But F2P is in a sense a form of crowd funding, they aren't expecting everyone to pay for that character, but they ARE expecting the ones who do to play A LOT. Thats why its done through gacha and not flat rates like normal video game expansions and DLC, it kills two birds with one stone. Paying players whale, and F2P players spend more time grinding to maintain player count and engagement. That why I feel confident in saying, as someone who has dumped enough time into Genshin Impact, that at the very least I expect that 30 dollar asking price to cover a FULL retro fit of EVERY feature for offline play, but more realistically at that price, MORE.
I will wait for a sale. But if you think about it, its $30 for all the content guaranteed. In those games you could easily spend $30 just to MAYBE get 1 character you want against terrible odds. Some dudes spend $300 per month in gacha games which is crazy to me. (And thats supposedly rookie numbers, insanity) So, for these kinds of people its nothing/a good deal
To all those guys and gals that spent a lot of money in the og Dive: Pirate the game. Just do it, if Capcom steals your money, you might as well steal they're game... Cuz honestly i feel a lot of ppl (specially "whales" of the X Dive comunity) got scammed hard
In my opinion the game was just bad the online version at least. I think it's starts off good but after the 3rd world the game falls of a cliff. the game suddenly gets extremely unfair and cheap. the enemies start almost one shoting you even with upgrades and they start making you play that hard more versions of the stages witch is just padding. the story also isn't interesting and they really don't do anything interesting with the concept. the writing blows. the translation isn't even that good. the game makes the twist the via obvious but they stretch it out to the near the end of the game. also this game doesn't keep track if you've done certain events or story beats. witch lead to situations where the character's will talk about things that haven't happend yet. or even in the story were the game assumes you were there for certain events. leaving gaps in the story. the level does nothing interesting mostly just being enemy spam and there aren't really any gimmicks. and there either way too easy of unfairly hard with random difficulty spikes. the bosses are also either way too easy or go on forever one of the bosses took like 40 minutes to beat. grinding for a chance to get a character isn't worth it since they often end up worst then the character you already have. and they really are just skins. maybe in the online version it suddenly becomes an amazing game. but the online version has honesty killed any interest in me playing it and if it didn't the price tag did 30 dollars it is not worth.
Idk abt the offline version. But the original Dive was bad, but admittedly the character models are great. That's a shame for it to be in a mediocre game.
New business model, if the game sells well. Milk your customers dry with the mobile version, get the game to some kind of a finished status, end the servers and then re release the game as a offline version, with little game dev effort. Then again there are a few mobile games i would love to see as a offline version when they reach end of service. Dragalia Lost, and there are probably many Fate Go Fans out there who would love a complete version without the gacha.
This is extremely wrong. There was quite a big overhaul making it offline mode, the guy who made the video and many online players can't seem to wrap their head around how many things were changed with offline mode. -rebalancing for practically ALL weapons, chips, and cards -added some events to adjust/go along with story -while they gutted all the pvp and co-op, they also added a new time attack mode -changed how the hidden elements are hidden (combined both hard+normal version, so now you get usually one more hidden element in a normal run) -added challenge mode which gives it more of a traditional feel -despite what people say, you CAN turn off auto aim, I'm just adding this because I've seen several comments say you can't
In the gacha version you can disable the auto aim and use a manual aim system somewhat like the MercurySteam Metroid games, so I assume OffDive here would have that as an option somewhere.
I wish it was more like the MercurySteam Metroids, X DiVE's dual stick is so much clunkier. The option to disable it is fully intact in Offline though.
Someone who made a review of the offline version told me You can disable it in the settings
But i don't know first hand
Its in the pause menu
Id rather auto instead.
@@huevonesunltd literally go in a stage, turn off auto-aim in the menu. You can also make your buttons transparent and stuff too.
The main draw for me always was the unlockable content.
I think I'll be happy with it even with it's dumbed down gameplay cuz it is a mobile game after all.
To be honest I wish this would be standard practice whenever a live-service game gets discontinued.
I can only hope Digital Extremes does the same to Warframe cuz that game has LOTS of content and story that is perfectly playable solo.
See? That's what i think as well. They need to do something like this to Warframe because the more the game proceed the more abusive the gameplay are. Sure back then there's defenders saying "it's not pay2win it's space trading blablablablabla"
But:
There's grinding to unlock primes and then grinding the materials and then waiting for it to "primed" aaargh.
They add the "Riven" upgrade card mechanic to uncap the card and introduce OP effects but that became pay2win as unlocking the Rivens require the players to do nigh-impossible feats.
There's also Kuva Lich and Sisters of Parvos, which reduces your rewards until you grind harder and guess to find the way to beat them and choose between taking their weapons or making them join you.
After hooked for 434 hours in the span of 2017-2019, i stopped. Nowadays it remains as the longest hour of all my Steam games.
@@meyers0781dude I made a thousand plat just farming random relics I had and selling mods from arbitration. Its a grind for sure but farming plat basically allows you to skip the even worse grind for certain shit. I straight up bought Baruuk prime off a player a couple of months after his release for like 200 plat.
@@meyers0781I also get the socializing part for plat sucks. I remember when i first started I got nervous when talking to people for trading I still wish Warframe just had a trading board to remove talking to people. Still though most people are pretty chill and are willing to pay price you asked for.
I doubt it but I really hope this becomes the standard in mobile games. Once the servers go down just release premium offline version. It's great for game preservation
doesnt that happen most of the time?
Short, concise, and rather unbiased. Very good review!
One thing I can say is the game does work as a great intro title. The kinda title you recommend to people who are not great At side strollers or mega man. I sat that because my 65 year old mother who never played game played and enjoyed it.
Lol no… you’re gonna make an intro person very frustrated on stages 15 and 22. It gets very complex and better as it goes on
I spent a lot of time (and money uuuuugh) on the original version and I'm actually completely okay with the offline version not allowing you to transfer data, since progression is about 1000 times faster. I've gotten a higher power level in 30 hours than I was able to in the 300+ hours I spent in the Gacha version, not to mention unlocking nearly every character and weapon.
I do think this game is missing some key features, namely the ability to reassign manual aim, as well as an option to disable auto aim, which was in the original version, but isn't in the Offline version for some reason. I also hope a modder can come in and clean the controls up just a bit. The fact that tapping the jump button gives you a max height jump every time is really annoying.
Also, the menu theme being the character select song from X4 is such a horrible choice. Idk why they didn't just use the menu theme from the Gacha version. The 5 second loop is insanely grating after a while.
Still better than the “free” to play version where the devs and publishers were relying solely on people spending thousands of dollars on these games to keep the servers and future content going otherwise if they had made no profits on them then the online version of Megaman X dive would’ve ended years ago.
I’ll gladly take the offline preserved version without the ridiculous predatory gacha and RNG system from the online only “free” version of the game where it could take you months to a whole year to get all the stuff you want unlocked without paying additional money for a CHANCE to get them alongside not having to deal with the horribly structured unbalanced PVP mode where half the time people are AFK anyways.
I'll definitely wait for a Steam Sale
The roster is fun. Don't get dive cross MegaMan exe early or every character available will just seem dull. Played it for a few days and now it sits gathering storage space.
Man imagine spending like 60$ on the mobile game, then this comes out and just a big middle finger to ya lol
Imagine spending hundreds, if not THOUSANDS on the mobile game, only for the game to shut down.
@@UltimateAnimeGamer Alas, 'tis the inevitable fate of all live service games.
Didn't play on mobile but I'm a hardcore X fan.
For all its faults I'm really enjoying this and its much more fun than X7 and 8 combined to me. It's not X9 but the RPG elements are something they were leaning towards with the later games.
Kinda reminds me of Dynasty Warriors with a MMX spin.
I like to treat it as the unofficial sequel to Mega Man Xtreme and Xtreme 2
If we're being honest, X7 is a low bar in the fun department.
Dynasty Warriors MegaMan would be so sick lol
Being better than X7 is not exactly a compliment but i see it being better than X8 at the very least
@@TheGameStanShould take place during the Elf Wars and also have Command Mission characters and the Four Guardians
The only real thing that I am going to miss in the Offline version is the 2 player coo-ups.
2:00 you can turn off auto aim in option when you are in the pause menu in a mission(not in main menu), it's make the game way more fun and harder. Personaly, I have great time with the game and I know it's not for everyone, but hey at least you can play Ciel. (I take everything that offer more Megaman Zero stuff XD)
the low res graphics are a setting you can change in the options.
Sorry you didn't like. I personally love it a lot, 80 hours in, still enjoying and finding new ways to play, unlocking stuff, just wish the story was better written. Also since its just a port game, I assume the little bugs I found will never get fixed. That said, since I'm still putting hours into it and enjoying the game, its well worth the money for me.
The gameplay options like turning off the auto aim can't be found in the main options menu, you actually have to be in a stage and press (your version of) Select.
I actually use Steam Input to change a few things like making the manual aiming be tied to my Up Button so I can aim upwards for those hard to reach enemies.
But yeah this game is super clunky, that is literally the best word to describe how the game feels especially compared to other Mega Man games. Funnily enough the game plays a lot like Mega Man X7's 2d sections even down to the auto aiming.
Hopefully mods can fix these issues and we can get the true X DiVE we always wanted.
I will try ot out one day. It seems interesting. I'm not shocked those people didn't get to keep all their unlockables. Mobile games are like MMOs. Once the service is shut down.. it's gone forever. I see them as an tv show. I play it for a couple of seasons & then i switched to a different one. That's just how online games are. It's rare for one to last five years. WOW been around since i was in jr high (2003). Or maybe before that too. But that kinda of stuff is rare. Most online games never last that long
$30 can't get any S rank character in online version
Yup, meanwhile you can farm hundreds of characters on coins alone for offline, even if it would be a hilarious prod if they kept a `coin based gacha` so off-line play could let you do the same gag as `Genshin Wish Simulator` so your playing the equilvency of a rogue`like to challenge yourself a smidge. Such as only farming previous stages whenever you fail the latest stage.
Guess people can always spin a paper wheel for that fix of silly.
As someone who recently finished the online version's main story, I'm not in a hurry to play the offline version. I'll just wait for the sale or for a version ported to the Nintendo Switch.
Let's just say Mega Man X Dive Offline is... 50 50
very good review! keep it up!
$30 is a steal. Also stages get more complex later and you can turn auto-aim off, talk about a review that’s still in the tutorial stages LOL
30 DOLLARS???? They better have Mega Man come out of my screen if they're gonna charge me 30 dollars for a mobile game
Nvm its fun
@@CjPerro-y5z To me, that's fundamentally worth it! As 1. MTX suck 2. No more GACHA 3. Is going to get modded.
That's the spirit
Of course it's worth waiting for the modders
Oh. This is a good take.
If it goes on sale for 15, I'll probably pick it up!
They should do this more often with online mobile games that have been shut down.
I’ve played on the online North American server from day 1 to the last day it was online. I had every X character & was super far in with stats. Now that every character & stats I had are gone I’m not willing to spend $30 just to start over. Also Ultimate armor X had the legacy armor as a skin, but it like was $10. So yeah that’s gone too
no way they actually charged $30 for a mobile game
I mean the offline version technically gutted the gacha elements and mobile game elements and if its a 5 GB sized title you can play anywhere without needing a network connection, could be a good time killer. Though its a shame they axed the collab-specific content, but i assume that part of the reason could be since they were limited time only content only, if they even had reruns to allow chasing the collab content to begin with.
So i would likely compare it to the `Console version` of battle cats which was also a revamped off-line playable version of a mobile game.
Snatching it up on discount would probably be the way to go, but its likely more marketed to those who won`t have the copium regrets of being deep into the online version, but would be better for those who wanted to play, but didnt want to deal with the retarded level of daily shenigans.
Seriously, the ridiculous commitment to the PvP specific daily content was what drove me away before i locked it to a secondary time killer title for me. Excessive Daily burn out seems to be what always kills mobile game hype for me most of the time.
I'd rather them (developers in general) release these kind of games that are online only in offline form as well with a fixed price. Devs should do this more often tbh.
I mean, if it does not have all the loading hook ups, you dont have to be goaded into spending `additional micro transactions`, because it no longer needs that `online service only requirement`, it already sounds like a more enjoyable experience.
Another thing that kills `online service games` is having too much `lag` between stages, menu hopping and so on.
It would be more nice if more EoS games got offline formats, but some games would require too much work to revamp ALOT more elements to fit that(Even worst if they have a un-optimized bloatware size they would need to funnel into a package then use a server for it instead). Which could lead to them just demanding 60 dollars, or splitting things up into DLC `packs` to pay for the `remastering` expenses.
Plus, if its a permanently offline format, that just opens things up for modding for the dedicated fans.
Seriously, its definitely a much better deal then those single player games that either demand a perpetual internet connection to even play on a console game or forces micro transactions into a single player game, even going as far to have `paid gacha` in said single player game. @@Chronuz
@@BladeSerph yeah i agree, every failed or even successful live service game should have an offline version.
I hope every failed gacha in the future does this. $30 is a STEAL!
I actually did get to play this game before it went End of Service and… I threw ten bucks at it for supporting the game in the hopes it might lead to it getting something more for Megaman X. It’s sad that this is the best thing that’s happened to X in years, as far as fully new content goes. I’m waiting for a sale on this game. Or a price reduction. 20 dollars is the highest I’ll go for this game, having already gotten to try it.
Its on sale for 20 now…but i think,its still too much
So in this version, how do we upgrade and unlock characters?
This game may not be for me, but I can appreciate defunct mobile games getting re-released with offline versions for preservation.
If they released an offline Dragalia Lost, I’d probably buy it.
If you want a more traditional Megaman X experience, 30XX is a Megaman roguelike that just came out and it's $10 cheaper
I play the original and I've only spent like 20 bucks total on it. I had some fun with it.
Playing since beta, and not at all furious. Any mobile game is destined for death when its server shuts down, so the fact that Capcom released an offline version is a welcome relief. I can't tell you how much I wish Nintendo had given Dragalia Lost the same treatment.
My only gripe is they took out the crossover content with Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, and Devil May Cry. They're all Capcom properties anyway, so what gives?
Cool thing is, they're going to use the Nebula Joy version to update this game!also, I got it on sale.
those character anims on the select screen are pure (non pervy) fanservice. As a mm fan I'm keeping my eye on it, but as a longtime gamer, yeah the simplified combat would probably affect long time enjoyment
I'm also worried that it's still time-grindy (this is the other half of fixing a gatcha. Part 1 is getting rid of the paid main currency, but part 2 is getting enough of said main currency to efficiently enough, get what you want, without costing too much time. Time cost is expensive, the older you get, the more valuable time is), since that is non-ideal and still a cost to me (though I'm glad the char unlocks sound like they happen frequently enough)
Hey now Capcom make a sale for this game, until 7 January, I think this was the cheapest price capcom offer now, so is this still worth to buy? There's many people that are say yes and no make me confused, please tell me is this worth buying & playing?
The only thing I want from this is for them to put duo or king in the game
So I’m gonna ask this straight out. Is EVERYONE a playable character in this version? I ask because I’ve been playing the Gatcha version for a long time now and I feel like there are way more than 40 playable characters (I even played the Japanese release before it came to the states and I feel like the states version is missing some from the Japanese release too). If this game doesn’t include everyone you could obtain via the gotcha version then it’s not worth the $30 to rebuy this game. Anyone know?
Anyone but collabs characters.
almost bought this on release because its megaman, after watching this vid i think i'll take your advice and wait on a sale.
I'll check it out on a sale. I mean I'm not expecting anything mind blowing but it's nice that there is a non gacha version.
Personally, I could only play this game for ten hours before putting it down. Don't think I'll be touching it again unfortunately.
Would be cool if this was on Switch.
Cant Believe I got it for 3 dollars here in philippines on ios lol
10hrs in and i love it
Its addictive and what you would expect a megaman game with rpg elements
Just pick up and play with whatever hero or weapon you like, easily caters to everyones playstyle
Want to be a badass zero, or a hot waifu with big guns, the choice is yours
I paid $5 for it, I think it’s worth it for that price
If you haven't played it yet, maybe give Oblivion Override a try... it's a Mega Man-ish rogue lite and I think you'd like it..
This feels like a fair review, can you confirm if the collaborations are still there or not? I did try the game...but timing among other stuff kept it at edge for me.
Their is no collabs except karate dr. Light for some reason. The rest are seasonal characters.
@@phantom11781 thank you very much. At this point then the game should probably be like $10 max. I know collaborations makes things expensive.
@@phantom11781"Karate" Dr. Light is actually a reference to X1's Hadouken unlock. He isn't a collab character.
@phantom11781 Dr.light is not considered a collab unit and never was.
I will say there are modders working on the collab stuff plus other customizable options. As of 9/28/23, they have the DMC Crossover content added back in.
Does anyone in this comment section here live in Europe? I need to know if the systems for money have changed to Euros cuz it's saying it costs 29.99 €? I dunno if they just changed the mark for money on bank accounts or if it costs in Euros. Just adressing that in Europe since 2023, the main currency changed to Euros (1€=7.5$ in Europe).
So no crossover characters and tranfer data to the game
Noooooo! I just started playing, and this offline bugs me so much. I just started making friends and no data transfer.
Gouging at its finest.
Now it makes sense why it was named "Offline"
Copped for 15 so seemed worth the gamble lol
i like it though. im grateful for all of it.
Let's not pretend we don't know why these free games are free in the first place. It's completely understandable why they want to charge for this version the only problem is the price point being about 10-15 dollars more than it should be. In its original state and other games like it it's 100% appropriate to have that kind of monetization. People gotta make their money somehow they only make it free for ease of access. I think it's kinda ridiculous that the stigma of microtransactions has reached a point where it's demonized even for the free games it belongs in. If a triple a game you payed for to begin with has microtransactions you can be mad but not here.
If you plan on completing the game, It’s far cheaper to spend a one-time $30 price tag than downloading it for free with gacha elements where it can cost thousands of dollars with IAPs. I’m glad they went this route.
That will be a fair point, if the gatcha did not exist in the first place, this will only make a percentage of the players that spend a lot of money in the game to not play new titles of capcom with gatcha and just wait for the offline, and the worst part is that the you can't tranfer the data, capcom should give the game for free to the dolphins and whales.
@@ZATCHBELL2007 Why do you think I don’t play these mobile F2P games? They can put people through financial ruin if you have any sort of compulsive or addictive personalities; whether or not you’re willing to whale is pointless anyway because on 5-7 years, the service gets terminated on them usually, making your financial (usually) power-crept investments all for naught anyway
The last ones will be the first omes. Law of God.
I would have bought the game if it hadn't been for the hefty pricetag. I will follow the suggestion and wait for the sale.
Edit: Bought it during the December sale. It's so worth it.
mannnn, if only the game play is better, this game would be a money steal!!
Everyone knows side scrolling game fight don't really have autolocks, looking at some famous titles too: hollow knight, terraria, mario, and megaman other than this
Well it’s better then most app games with stories, when enough players finish the story, the App disappears and the players who start later can’t finish it.
i have no sympathy for whales dude. they can whip out that credit card and spend another 30$
Feels bad for ppl that put money into this
Yeah...just get 30XX instead if you want anything with substance. I'm gonna get X Dive at some point since its pretty much the one Mega Man game I havent played, but it always seemed very bland aside from that artwork.
I got this to play on my steam deck and it plays pretty well. I never really got into the gotcha version and this is pretty much a fan service game so far. Best parts for me are no micro transactions and no need to log in daily like you would with a normal gotcha game or you lose out on rewards. I got it cause I was curious but I do agree with you if someone can wait for a steam sale on it I would.
Nifty little game, may check it out when it goes on sale.
That really sucks for anyone who actually spent a ton of money trying to unlock stuff
It's not impossible to do a data conversion of some sort. They must have ran out of time due to budget and deadlines, thanks to Capcom JP.
That’s their own fault for giving in to these predatory “free” games in the first place.
@@RazuX5 I'd also blame it on the drip feeding of megaman content
That's the risk they take with gacha games, these getting out of service happens all the time.
Except that normally the game disappears forever, in this case they should consider themselves lucky that they can keep playing.
This should be common practice when gacha games close.
At the very least i hope that makes people more mindful about spending money on such games knowing it could be gone just like that.
@@huevonesunltd ^ exactly alongside the fact that preserving the game should be important as well.
They could use these 3D models to make Remakes of the original X2 - X7
Of course it sucks. Capcom removed the crossovers from this game.
Not really and it would still SUCK IF it got a PS4 PS5 Switch PORT.
I got it day 1 and I've spent a lot of time & money in Nebula Joys Global version... Been Raiding in the Factory Guild Wily so I've not exactly been playing like a casual user...
That said I think there was a great opportunity kinda missed by the marketing department to make it clear this could be a great easy entrance point to an otherwise well known difficult series...
Never played it because it looked like it didn't know what it wanted to be.
I do however always check out videos about all the characters, models, and Animations
they should've at least give us the option to manually attack
It is an option. Homie here did very little research
Homie as in the video creator
You think modders can make the game better?
It definitely would be cool to see what they can do!
This absolutely should not be $30 given the experience is overall shallow and grindy. If only we could get an actual Mega Man title with this level of fanservice.
I hear the sentiment that "This should be the standard for games going EOS". But its honestly the bare minimum. Or depending on your standards, worse than the bare minimum. First of all lets get this out of the way, even if Capcom didn't see the worth in continuing service, theres no doubt that this game was PROFITABLE (atleast in 2021), as in it paid itself off in spades. So when I see a 30 dollar price tag, I feel like I shouldn't be paying for the content that ALREADY exist in the game. Of course it takes money to rebalance and retrofit a title like this... but what did they really do? Well they removed whole characters, coop and pvp, and whole stages and bosses tied to those online functions. You're paying 30 dollars for 70% of a FREE game. And I know no game is free, removing F2P mechanics warrants charging the new adopters something, but I really want to emphasize not only is it not upgraded or remastered, its LESS.
And I get that some players of the original will actually say "well it not that bad of a value" but I can't really ascribe to that, because often times thats in reference to the theoretical price it would cost to grind for characters. But F2P is in a sense a form of crowd funding, they aren't expecting everyone to pay for that character, but they ARE expecting the ones who do to play A LOT. Thats why its done through gacha and not flat rates like normal video game expansions and DLC, it kills two birds with one stone. Paying players whale, and F2P players spend more time grinding to maintain player count and engagement. That why I feel confident in saying, as someone who has dumped enough time into Genshin Impact, that at the very least I expect that 30 dollar asking price to cover a FULL retro fit of EVERY feature for offline play, but more realistically at that price, MORE.
I like games, I have job, I buy game
Very horrible....they could of easily made a mmx2 and mmx3 remake cholked full of hidden extras due to limitation of the data on snes cartridges
I will wait for a sale.
But if you think about it, its $30 for all the content guaranteed.
In those games you could easily spend $30 just to MAYBE get 1 character you want against terrible odds.
Some dudes spend $300 per month in gacha games which is crazy to me. (And thats supposedly rookie numbers, insanity)
So, for these kinds of people its nothing/a good deal
It's $5 now, so why not?
To all those guys and gals that spent a lot of money in the og Dive: Pirate the game. Just do it, if Capcom steals your money, you might as well steal they're game... Cuz honestly i feel a lot of ppl (specially "whales" of the X Dive comunity) got scammed hard
In my opinion the game was just bad the online version at least. I think it's starts off good but after the 3rd world the game falls of a cliff. the game suddenly gets extremely unfair and cheap. the enemies start almost one shoting you even with upgrades and they start making you play that hard more versions of the stages witch is just padding. the story also isn't interesting and they really don't do anything interesting with the concept. the writing blows. the translation isn't even that good. the game makes the twist the via obvious but they stretch it out to the near the end of the game. also this game doesn't keep track if you've done certain events or story beats. witch lead to situations where the character's will talk about things that haven't happend yet. or even in the story were the game assumes you were there for certain events. leaving gaps in the story. the level does nothing interesting mostly just being enemy spam and there aren't really any gimmicks. and there either way too easy of unfairly hard with random difficulty spikes. the bosses are also either way too easy or go on forever one of the bosses took like 40 minutes to beat. grinding for a chance to get a character isn't worth it since they often end up worst then the character you already have. and they really are just skins. maybe in the online version it suddenly becomes an amazing game. but the online version has honesty killed any interest in me playing it and if it didn't the price tag did 30 dollars it is not worth.
soon we will get Monster Hunter Now - offline? lol
Or wait until modders fix all the gameplay issues.
Idk abt the offline version. But the original Dive was bad, but admittedly the character models are great. That's a shame for it to be in a mediocre game.
Just got it for $4
jesus fuck man, the music you play is so fucking heavy!
so good
They brought a dead game that cost more than anything in the App Store. Thank you capcom.😢😢
ill play megaman x series from 4-8 it has best gameplay in psp 1
New business model, if the game sells well. Milk your customers dry with the mobile version, get the game to some kind of a finished status, end the servers and then re release the game as a offline version, with little game dev effort.
Then again there are a few mobile games i would love to see as a offline version when they reach end of service.
Dragalia Lost, and there are probably many Fate Go Fans out there who would love a complete version without the gacha.
Same, there's a few games I wouldn't mind waiting for to go completely offline. I'd rather just pay for something one time.
This is extremely wrong. There was quite a big overhaul making it offline mode, the guy who made the video and many online players can't seem to wrap their head around how many things were changed with offline mode.
-rebalancing for practically ALL weapons, chips, and cards
-added some events to adjust/go along with story
-while they gutted all the pvp and co-op, they also added a new time attack mode
-changed how the hidden elements are hidden (combined both hard+normal version, so now you get usually one more hidden element in a normal run)
-added challenge mode which gives it more of a traditional feel
-despite what people say, you CAN turn off auto aim, I'm just adding this because I've seen several comments say you can't
Its sad they not included colab, miss my gore ico
Should be bought?
As a F2P User, it's yes.
But as a Whale? become like air pirates.
Jesus! 30 goddamn dollars!?
for me it is Worth with offline version
downloading it xd
It cost me 15 dollars
Salute to all the fools who poured money into an always online game thinking their server information would last forever lol.
xD
Yeah Im not a fan of gacha games and microtransactions. Not even Pokemon Go
It wasn't even that bad of a gacha.
Any gacha that employs an energy system that limits gameplay unless you fork over premium currency is a pretty big turn-off
The ultimate scam
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