This video is pure gold for someone looking at the R5 for wildlife. Total honest review from a man who KNOWS his stuff through 1000's of hours of experience.
@@WillGoodlet I'm already invested in the Sony ecosystem, I own the A7R3 and have both the 100-400 and 200-600 lenses. Very happy with the results but the R3 isn't exactly a fast focusing camera so things like birds in flight often frustrate me, however, when you do get perfect focus the images are incomparable, actually better than the A9 if you need to recover shadows because of the great dynamic range. I'm waiting to see what's on the horizon for Sony next, supposedly an A9 with 50 megapixels is coming soon. With all this said I'm always curious and open to all brands, if Canon pulled way ahead of Sony I'd consider going back to their system but for now I don't see a huge advantage and they don't have fast affordable zooms yet either. I don't think I could use a 600mm f/11. All I've seen for the R5 are praise so seeing you point out some of it's shortcomings was refreshing. Even today I think the Nikon D850 is still a great wildlife camera, I almost went that route but it's clear everyone is moving towards mirrorless.
@@robwasnj Coming from a Pentax and Minolta SLR, 36 shots at ISO 400 and a 300mm manual focus lens - I can't really complain about any of the cameras we have at our fingertips these days! We are truly blessed. Just wish they were cheaper ;)
@@WillGoodlet Yeah, I'm old enough to remember those days. For me it was a Chinon CE3, then a Nikon F3HP. I acdtually had a darkroom and also worked for a cousin that owned a processing lab. I actually miss a lot of those days, all the technical craft you needed to have isn't there so the bar is lower. I still have sunny 16 in the back of my head when shooting outdoors, I often test myself and guess exposure even today. I just never attemped wildlife with those cameras.
@@robwasnj good to see someone else uses the sunny f16 rule. I also use hyperfocal distance too, although most modern lenses don't bloody well offer any markings for it anymore :-/ old school here, but didn't get into photography until '89.
Thanks Will, a really helpful review. You mention the lag in the EVF start up. I wake it up by half pressing the shutter button as I'm bringing the camera to my eye. That way it's on by the time it gets there and I'm ready to go. After a very short time muscle memory kicks in and it becomes automatic.
Agreed this is a great tip as I also found using the original R with my old 300 2.8 that when I left it lying on the car seat next to mine if it got to close to the centre console it would cause the EVF and IS to engage (no option 3) which chewed up batteries LOL. I now use my bean bag upside down to hold the camera clear of this. The only other option was to switch off / on to safeguard which is not ideal but I use when I notice battery levels dropping (the new lug on the R5 on/off switch also helps with this)
One of the best reviews about any product online! And very useful tips. Everything you said is after field use and after facing real-time challenges. Thanks for sharing
That was such a great video. A very humble and honest review of the camera with no hype or bs. You have a very nice tone of voice too. Great to see the change of backgrounds and the punctuation of photos and b roll. An excellent overview of the R5 and very interesting to me as I am about to buy this camera. Like you I am also new to mirrorless, the R5 will be my first.
Thanks so much, really kind of you! I think it is a great camera. Many of my issues with spool up time were addressed by experienced mirrorless shooters in the comments. So don't worry about that.. The freezing issue seems hit or miss, Canon Europe took mine for evaluation and gave it back only on Thursday. At which point Canon Japan insisted on replacing it. I don't know why as I'd previously refused a replacement. It's a spectacular camera but they seem to be having some teething trouble!
Super great video Will! The other fellow who has this kind of thorough, helpful and thoughtful reviews is Ron Bielefeld. You're both splendid. I learned a lot here about my 7D Mk 2! I have new respect for it. And I agree with a later vid of yours "Is there a place for dSLRs in this current wildlife scene?". I would like to know what you think of the R6 (Mk 2) if you ever get the chance to borrow one.
6:50 I am late to the party, but here it is: in DSLR, when you leave a len uncovered, if there's a strong light (heat), it reflects up the mirror and get out through the eyepiece. By the time it is past the eye focal point, the light is already scattered and no more intense. (Imagine heating up with a magnifying glass). However, in mirrorless, because there's no mirror, light & heat entering the len is directly hitting the sensor focused. So, while it rest, if it happen to point towards a sun, it'll literally fry your camera's sensor. Hence the warning notification. All you need to do is cover the lens front with a thin black piece of clothe or simply point it away from bright light/heat.
I believe there's an extra nuance with the R5, which is that (I think be default) the shutter closes when the camera is off. This means that there's the potential for sunlight to melt the shutter, which is rather more delicate than the sensor.
Beautiful vlog , @Will Goodlet ! I really appreciate you make this for us, your viewers! :) In Uruguay, we have to ride a lot as well, it's not the same as your country, but many birds, or wildlife animals are very far, we have quite a bit of smaller lakes (whe we don't have this draught) . But those are in private fields, so yeah, distance is a normal situation! I love you that you so down to earth!!! Thank you again.
Hey Will - if you keep the lens cap off, and sunlight hits the lens directly, it'll concentrate the light on the closed shutter blades and burn them. You can tell the camera to keep the shutter open when off if you don't want to cover the lens, but be wary of changing lenses as there is no mirror to protect the sensor.
Thanks Morgan, yep I think that is the consensus of opinion. I am keeping mine off as I am shooting from the car most of the time. Will just have to be more careful!
@@WillGoodlet Will, there are custom lens caps for the super telephoto lenses available on eBay. I'm looking at 1 for my 500mm f4 IS L (mark 1 sadly, can't afford a mark II - not a working pro making money, just a hobbyist).
Lens compatibility charts (Various) :- www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997146 Or www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997136 Or www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997138 Or www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997142 Or www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997140 Or www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1990615
Hey Will, I rarely watch a youtube video all the way through. But I did with yours. All 26 minutes. Thanks for providing a fantastic review of this camera. Not only did I enjoy the review I learned a lot about wildlife photography (I shoot landscapes primarily). I subscribed and look forward to catching up with some of your earlier videos. PS. I am getting the r6. The r5 was just a little above my budget.
Hi Graeme, great to hear from you and thanks for sitting through 26minutes of wildlife blather. I also love to shoot landscapes, particularly under the stars. I've found that it is quite hard to do in South Africa because the land is all fenced off and the farmers are very jumpy and in national parks, the animals want to eat you. I was hoping to explore some of my favourite spots on the channel when I get the chance.
First of all i would like to say that i love your videos, you are amazing on all fronts. i like to add that after extensive and in depth testing (took me many hours) to find differences between CRAW and RAW i can say for sure that Craw lose a bit of details. mostly you will find it in the shadows recovery. in some shots i was able to recover so much detail from a RAW file that i was actually abe to identify the object. (although with a lot of noise) with a CRAW that object had no details and was not useful to recover at all. after seeing that i am back to RAW. That being said, if your exposing the photo 100% perfectly the only way to find the difference is by zooming in 500% and putting on glasses.
Canon on the uses of Ef lenses: www.canon-europe.com/pro/stories/rf-versus-ef-lenses/ though on FOCUS BRACKETING: canoncanada.custhelp.com/app/answers/answer_view/a_id/1033727/~/compatible-lens-list-for-%5Bfocus-bracketing%5D-%28eos-r5%2Feos-r6%29
EVF will spool up in time. First, use only the new high capacity batteries. Second, program the shutter button to focus. Now, when your hand reaches for the camera, immediately press the shutter button half down. By the time the camera is at your eye, the EVF is working. After you do this for a day, it becomes second nature. (You can do the same with back button focus)
Thanks for watching Robert. There’s been some new firmware since this video and the issues with much of the freezing seems to have stopped. Bear in mind that they will announce a mark ii in the first part of 2024 and you might see a price drop then. I love mine
I believe that the message to put your lens cap on is because of the danger of damaging your sensor or the curtain in front of it. On our old DSLRs the sunlight hit the mirror and out the viewfinder, now it goes straight to the sensor. I think if you don’t have the sunlight hitting the lens you’ll be fine. If the lens is looking at the inside of the door on you Rover there’s not a problem. Just my thoughts.
Thanks Bruce, makes sense about the mirror. Forgot about that! Yes I like the lens up against the door panel just in case. I think if its a sunlight thing then it should be pretty safe there.
Hi Will, have you ever tried to use 100-400mm mk ii with 1,4x teleconvertor on your R5? The reason why I'm asking is because I've ordered the R6 and I've never used the teleconvertors before and i have 2 canon telephoto zoom lenses. F2,8 70-200mk ii and 100-400mm mk ii, i want to know how the focusing area and focusing speed are affected.
Will, have been using the R5 for a few months now, and haven't noticed the EVF spool up lag you mention in this excellent video.Seems to me a matter of milliseconds from switch on to EVF available? R5 firmware rev 1.1.1, Canon EF 100-400 L IS II with EF 2x III extender. No camera freeze so far.....
Steve A yep it’s not long and the R5 is fast compared to other mirrorless I’ve tried, but significant enough to be a notable difference to DSLR and cost 1-3 shots at the beginning of a sequence . I have been working around it. I leave the camera on and tap a button on the way up to the eye which makes it much less of a problem. The main issue now is for very long sightings - battery drain vs optical. I now use binoculars more than before. But luckily I shoot mostly from vehicles in warm climates so batteries are not a big problem. I have a stack ready to go. But if you are on foot, maybe hiking or out all day (or more than one day) in the cold, I think I would maybe hang onto an optical camera for that use case.
Excellent piece! I have not run into many of the issues you pointed out but I squarely blame the pandemic for that! I am hoping that this year will be better. Already missed the migratory birds this year so will have to wait another year for them. I have two comments for you: 1. Excellent voice levels all through! I think there was just one scene change where the level was slightly different but the difference was marginal. 2. You should shoot with CFExpress. I splurged to get a 512GB card and I am very satisfied. Hopefully you have already got one (or more). If not, come to India. You can get them here. You can shoot Indian wildlife and architecture too! :)
Thanks, hoping you can get out there again too - I was out briefly this morning looking for Amur falcons, they have gone. On the way back to you right now I imagine :) Audio is always hard to get right, thanks :) And yep, I am using a CFexpress type B at the time of the video they were not yet available. Additionally, the new just released v1.5 firmware supposedly addresses the freezing issue. I hope so!
Thank you for a great review of the R5. I am a canon shooter, of over 10 years, mostly wildlife, 1D MKlV & 5D MKlV, I am amateur, no pressure to generate a living. I am pleased that Canon has finally come to the table with it’s first REAL quality mirrorless. I am going to hold off for some of the bugs to be worked out and the price to drop or for some important incentive reductions. Keep up the great work, I really appreciate this type of honest review.
CRAW is more compressed, about half the file size of RAW. The big differenc will be when you denoise higher isos, eg, iso 12800 and above. I shoot isos all the time and can clean up iso 12800 very well, iso 6400 hearly perfectly, without loosing detail. To denoise effetively you need fine pin prick pixel size noise to work with. Once you add compression, the noise shares with its neighbours pixels and it turns to mini blobs - this is much more difficult, or impossible to denoise. Shoot RAW.
Thanks for this. I will finally be getting some Cfexpress B cards next week. The prices were double over here but the currency has strengthened against the USD so it was time to bite the bullet. With the extra space, I will keep this advice in mind.
I am not only impressed with your video, but these comments are awesome too. What a great community you have! I am struggling with the price tag of the R5. I am not a professional photographer (or that great of a novice photographer for that matter) but I am starting to hit the limitations of my 80D. I was thinking 5D until this beauty was introduced. Now I'm just stuck in the decisions. 🙄 Thanks for the wonderful info. New sub.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment and subscribe! Yeah there are a lot o great comments in the thread - plenty of really helpful people around :) The R5 is spectacular but so is the R6.. it might be important to just ensure you have enough resolution for your subject before going to any of the full frame options though. The 80D is offering a lot of pixels that the other cameras don’t have! What are your subjects?
I wanted to thank you for producing an honest and practical review of the r5. I mostly do wildlife with landscape coming in second. I was contemplating selling my 1DX and 1D MK4 to pay for the r5 but after your review I think I'll keep one of them, just not sure which one. I have placed an order for the r5 and the adapter for my current lens collection and an extra battery. Thanks again for all the info.
With freezing? It’s somewhat improved with firmware but also if you don’t use the eye af for too long - say more than 15 seconds, especially with TC attached
I just purchased an R6, straight away freeze up twice in a 3 hour bird shoot, froze when half pressing the shutter to focus. Anyway I have sent camera back for a refund. I did toy with the idea of an R5, but not now I know they also have freeze ups. Its not good enough, these cameras are not cheap! Iam not impressed with all the other negative things re these cameras, rolling shutter etc etc
Sorry to hear that. The firmware has improved things but they still freeze from time to time - you need to remove the battery. They freeze when focusing for longer periods of time. You kind of learn to work around it. I also noticed when testing the sigma 150-600 contemporary lens on the R6 that it did NOT freeze but the canon 100-400 mark ii DID freeze. It’s a pain in the butt…
Will, Thanks for discussion of the EV spool up. That would seriously frustrate me. I need to act quick to capture birds and mammals when I come upon them. For now I will keep my 5D4 and 90D. I am wondering if Canon has an R7 up their sleeve for quick action bird photography?
Hi Mark, glad it was useful!. A lot of the more experienced mirrorless guys suggested tapping a button on the way up to the eye, I tried it and it did help quite a lot. I think that the APS-C might not make an appearance in RF format. It seems sensible to rationalise the lens line-up, maybe we are going back to the days before digital where we just had 35mm - but now with slightly longer RF glass to compensate? 100-500. 600 F11, 800F11, 250 f2.8 etc...? All I know is it's an exciting time.
I am using compressed raw format and although early days I would agree with you regarding the quality of the image. I am currently shooting exclusively in this format. The other change in my photo technique is getting away from tracking the bird with the autofocus point. Once the eye focus locks on you can of course recompose the image but it is not yet intuitive to me.
Hi Will, its your video that convinced me it was time to leave my old 1DX mk1 / 7D2 behind. It was like id jumped from an old hatchback car to a ferrari! Its just amazing. Yep, takes an old DSLR shooter a while to get used to. The ISO performance is at least as good as my 1DX which given the pixels is amazing. Ive set the camera up where i can jump from animal eye to spot and also crop mode and it works a treat. Agree with the autofocus. It can be amazing but also isn't perfect in certain situations. So far mine hasn't frozen but there's lots of internet chatter that some have had the same problem. My only gripe wasn't the camera but I've had a few faulty LPE6NH batteries. Brand new but wont charge. So yes, your review is bang on and your pics amazing.
Hi Mick, thanks for watching and congratulations on the new camera! I've got the same setup with eye & spot AF on back buttons next to each other. Canon replaced my camera as a result of freezing, and my new one has only just started to freeze again. It does it when I hold the autofocus button in for more than 30 seconds or so. I have just learned not to do that. Not good to hear about the LPE6NH batteries - I only have two of them and they are OK. I'm lucky in that I can recharge the older LPE6N's in my car and just rotate them. I think, like any camera, you get used to its foibles. The R5 & 6 are definitely a giant leap forward, and my 7DMark ii is now sitting on a shelf most of the time.
You invited us to ask about other things to test. The only reason I would buy a new camera right now is for full frame with auto iso and focus bracketing. I think the R5 is Canon's only camera that has those features. Can you test auto iso and focus bracketing? Thanks.
The keep the lens cap on message when turning off the camera is common to all EOS R_ series of cameras. The new RF Lenses have this feature where upon switching the camera off, the aperture blades in the lens close down automatically but this doesn’t occur with EF Lenses leading to more light going down the lens barrel compared to a similar EF Lens equivalent
HI Judah, thanks yeah I believe that is correct - having only shot DSLR I was not aware. I am just going to take care where I point the telephotos when they are not in use.
Do you not find the fact that IS runs continuously on your EF400 f/2.8 L IS on the R5 an annoyance at least and a concern for the long term health of the lens a possibility? Drives me nuts on my EF300 f/2.8L IS (v.1.) Can't help battery longevity either. Have to switch IS off on the lens . . . and we know how that goes! I have found a use for the universally maligned touch bar of the EOS R. I use it to keep the EVF "awake." It has an advantage that doing this does not activate AF so the lens does not go off searching from my pre-focus point choice. So, LOL!, I'll actually miss not having that touch bar on my R5 when it finally gets here! I must be the only soul who will miss that touch bar!
Hi Terry, I can't actually recall that it did that on my lens? Hmm. I think you may be the only person on the planet (or the only one I've seen) who likes the touch bar, I hope you told canon your feelings ;)
Me too! I’ve found that I can leave it switched on and it starts up when you touch a button. The replaced camera hasn’t frozen at all (touch wood) so it’s been good - I must do an update video
Will, There is a list of all EF lenses that support 12 frames per second on pages 895 and 896 of the PDF user manual you can get from the Canon sites. Nothing about image stabilisation though. Is this what you’re looking for?
Cheers Mal, maybe yes! Thank you for that. I keep seeing an asterix in the specs list and the note says 'list of lenses available on the canon website' but never find it.
@@WillGoodlet Canon UK have a list of lenses which improve IS here: www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997136. Unfortunately for you, they all seem to be RF mount.
Hey Ryan, I'm sorry to hear that. Did you tell Canon and the retailer? Maybe a good idea just to inform them just in case it gets worse in future.. Yeah it can be really annoying, especially as it often happens when you are using the camera in intense situations and it can cause you to miss good shots. If I missed a cheetah chase because of an issue like this I'd probably punch something (probably the camera)! Needs to be a reliable option for those rare moments.
Will its the first time I've seen your videos thank you for all the detailed information on the R5 because I am thinking of buying one and also I liked how clear every word spoken and believe when I say there are a lot tutorials that are garbage.
Re, the lens cap warning. I saw on another mirrorless camera video the suggestion/thought was that sun light down the lens would melt the sensor when not in use. Not sure if this is the case here.
Sunlight will burn out the shutter (set to close to keep dust out) as it’s more vulnerable than the mirror on cameras that don’t close the shutter. Of course dslr shine the light via the mirror safely out the viewfinder!
Hi Will, you are not alone with the freeze issue, lots of others including me. Same happened to me two mornings in a row, first with 300mmf2.8 mkii and then with the RF70 200mm f2.8, screen/evf freeze 20 seconds, soft clunk like camera power up. I download the latest firmware 1.1.1 yesterday, no bug fix mentioned, but no longer an issue so far ....
@@WillGoodlet I am having the freeze issue as well, but only when using the battery grip. I have seen the E2 error once. I powered the camera down and the card was fine after that. I'm not sure if the issue was the CFExpress card or the SD card. I have continued to use the same cards and have only seen the issue the one time. I would be interested to hear if the freeze issue has gone away. I did install the latest firmware (1.1.1) but haven't shot a lot since the firmware update. But overall, I love the R5. It's a bit buggy, but not enough to make me want to give it up.
Hi Fred, thank you for watching and thanks for the very helpful comment too! Battery Grip! Maybe that's it!? I didn't get the freeze before the battery grip. I will have to test this out thoroughly to see if I can identify the cause. I had the Err2 repeatedly, so much that I had to stop using the card - maybe every 30min or so. It was the SD card in my case as I don't have a CFexpress yet. They are coming to collect the camera for assessment on monday - so I have the weekend to test a few things, thanks for the info! Like you I'm keeping this camera - too good!
@@WillGoodlet unfortunately freeze happened again today, I think it might be when the EVF is set to smooth , will try again tomorrow with the other slower EVF setting
I tried to get mine to freeze for a while yesterday and couldn't (v.1.1.1 without battery grip) Tried naked lens, 1.4, 2x and even stacked 1.4 + 2x. insisted on behaving itself. The retailer still hasn't picked it up - I'd rather keep it now knowing that all the cameras are the same.
About sunlight getting in the lens. When you turn off the camera the plastic cover comes down over the lens and that can become heated and melt if sunlight comes through a lens without a cap. In cameras that do not close plastic in front of the sensor, the sensors have UV protection that keeps them from melting from sunlight for the most part.
About the staccato effect when panning: have you got "automatic review" set to (say) 2 seconds? (That was the default on my Canon R. I don't know about the R5). If so, set it to zero seconds. The short freeze should go away.
@@WillGoodlet I had the same issues with the "lag" but I've tweaked settings (dont know which ones as of now) and it is gone! :D feels like my 5dmkIV now. Superhappy about that. So it is most likely a setting or two.
Hi Will. I don’t know whether, being a hobbyist, I’m in a position to offer any ideas. However, for myself I have settled to stick to DSLRs, come what may. I’m nowhere near your level as a photographer however, I use Canon 1D Mark IV + Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM + Canon Extender EF 2x III. This combo produces a focal length of 780mm of full-frame equivalent. Despite all these; if I need more reach and cropping; I use my new 90D which really rocks. For flight shots; my old friend 7D + EF 400mm f/5.6L combo is the way to go. All these bodies have plenty of shutter life remaining. So, I don’t really care whether Canon produces any more DSLRs or not. I know this won’t help you anyway but, mentioned it just to reiterate that DSLR is not dead despite massive efforts by manufacturers and promoters to kill it.
Thanks Quazi, really appreciate you taking the time to set out your thoughts here. It's so valuable to have all this info and input on the thread. You can't really fault the 1D Mark IV and 300 f2.8 they didn't get any worse just because mirrorless came along! The focus speed, 1.3 crop and powerful battery for the converter are a joy to use. And there is always something special about those APS-H sensors. They look gorgeous. What I still like about optical is that the battery lasts, the image through the viewfinder also is REAL and it's much more immersive from the perspective of someone who enjoys watching wildlife. Sometimes we just want to watch right? I think we are lucky too because cameras have become so good that they will do the job - especially if their users know how to take advantage of them. And there is more to photography than the image - wildlife photography at least. It's about being there. Close by, observing, enjoying and being a part of what's happening. It's about the capture but also the feel of the capture. And the feel in the hand of a 1D is very fine indeed. You know you are holding a beautifully crafted instrument.
Hi Will It’s a pity that you have so much investment in Canon gear. I switched from Nikon to Olympus (Em1 mk2) which is a great mirrorless micro 4/3 system. anyway, one great feature for bird photographers is “pro capture” which fills the buffer with 14 shots when you half press the shutter or use back button. Then when you fully press the button it takes the photo as normal. That way if you are a bit slow to press the shutter button you have 14 previous shots in the bag. Burst mode is impressive even using Raw. Olympus Pro lenses are pin sharp and weather sealed. The latest EM1 has Ai to assist with focus. Bonus is the weight and space saving - I now use a messenger bag instead of a rucksack. Also EVF boot up is instant and battery life also good. I have never looked back and sold all my Nikon gear.
Thanks Ray, I’ve had the opportunity to use the Olympus OMD em-1 Mark ii, I reviewed it in a blog post some time ago. I only got to play with it a few days but it was a great camera and a lot of fun a and yes I am jealous of pro-capture :) Im happy enough with my canon gear but you are correct, I’d like less of it. I love my 400 f2.8 - would find it hard to part with and don’t get me wrong the R5 is a very good camera, I won’t be giving it back soon!
@@WillGoodlet with the 400 f2.8 do you use a x2 TC or x1.4 TC to increase the reach? is the x2 TC sharpness good enough compare to the 1.4? Thank you very much for your sharing hands on experience. They are really helpful.
@@iamleek Hi! I use both TC"s a lot. But I do not feel that super telephotos are best employed to photograph extremely distant subjects and our approach to teleconverters is wrong. Atmospheric effects degrade image qaulity far more quickly than the teleconverter. So when we attach a 2x and say- 'oh this is softer than the naked lens' so often the subject is twice as far away when we make that comparison! The dust, heat haze, vapour and our own camera shake have all degraded the image much more than the converter in that situation. If you photograph the same subject at the same distance with the naked lens, 1.4 and 2x you will note that the 2x does an amazing job - especially on small, close subjects. Sorry for the long answer - but I think we wildlife photographers don't always use TC's in the best or most comparable way and then make 'better vs worse" black and white statements that miss so much of the nuances involved. Hope my perspective helps a litte at least!?
@@WillGoodlet Thank you very very much! That's really make me think very differently on how TC are used. I really like the thoughts you shared and considering the atmospheric condition of the environment.
Hi Helgardt, yes UHS-1 work (for stills) but I don't think they are officially supported. For video, you will need the fastest kind to stand any chance of recording more than a few seconds (preferably USH-II and CFExpress).
Will, I can't afford any of Canon's mirrorless cameras. Have been starting out (birding photography) with a 60D, but have just bought a used 7D II (shutter count only 567 shots apparently; basically new) - what can I expect? I'm hoping that the 7D II is way better in AF as imho, the 60D sucks. Not so worried about fps. Hoping I can get half a stop better high ISO noise performance out of the 7D II, The extra 2mp is a bonus I guess, but won't be readily visible in images imho. I've been using my 60D with my 300mm f4 IS Land a 1.4x TC (mark 1) and having a lot of AF issues (hunting). I've now managed to save up for a 500mm f4 IS L mark 1 lens and plan to use that sans TC (should give me 800mm reach vs my current 672mm reach and I'm hoping that the AF will be faster, more accurate and I'll have less hunting). I am just starting out, so my images aren't great. But everyone starts from somewhere. What do you think?
Hi David, not long ago your gear would have been at the top end of the professional spectrum. I still have my 7D2. With a 500f4 it should deliver excellent images. The crop bodies AF perform better with lower aperture lenses (does your naked 300 f4 hunt?) I used to have exactly the same 500f4 lens and it was very good on the 7d2. The af system on the 7d2 is a lot more advanced than the 60d particularly for Moving subjects, but the cameras are similar in other respects. Hopefully you will see more improved results! Congratulations on the new gear!
@@WillGoodlet My naked 300 f4 has never had what I'd consider great AF performance. My 70-200 f2.8L is much better imho - more accurate, less hunting and snappier. I probably should have returned the lens to Canon in the late 90s when I purchased it as the AF performance has always been something of a dud imho. The 500mm isn't faster, at least it doesn't appear to be so, but it's way snappier and more accurate. I'd been using the 300 with the 1.4x (remember, mark I, so pretty crappy vs mark II/III versions) to get more reach (672mm). The 500mm with the 7D II sans TC should give me 800mm reach, which I am more than happy with. I am just wanting better AF performance from the body and hoping the 7D II offers this. I'm used to 1D bodies (I have a 1D which you'll pry from my cold dead hands lol) and a 1D Mark IIn (imho, the original 1D smokes every other Canon sensor for IQ and I am not the only person to have said this, I know several pros who have stated the same thing). By IQ, I don't mean ISO performance, or megapixels. I mean simply pure image quality (the look of the colours and overall image). My 1 series bodies AF performance smokes the AF on the 60D, but at 4mp and 8mp, they simply cannot compete vs the 18mp of the 60D. My long term plans (I'm only working casually, with variable income and I have health problems that limited my income/employment) are to buy a used 1Dx (for motorsports photography), 5D II (for landscape photography - I currently have no FF camera unless I count my 35mm 1n film camera). I am also looking at Canon's mirrorless cameras, but I am NOT happy with their blocking of 3rd party lenses. If I wasn't so committed to Canon, I'd switch to another marque just to protest this anti-competitive and monopolistic behaviour on their part. Using IP to block competitor's is still anti-competitive behaviour and I am hoping the US DOJ will have a nice look at Canon and punish them. However, I am sadly, financially committed to the Canon market, so I have 2 mirrorless options: 1. R7 (APS-C for reach) - with the 500mm sans TC. I find 800mm reach is more than enough. 2. R5 (500mm with the 1.4x TC mark III). This is a far more costlier option for me. Both are long term options, hopefully in the next 3-4 years, probably both used. A lot of my gear is very old and I have gaps in my gear that make it hard for me to pursue specific genres that interest me (for example, no FF camera). I'm interested in macrophotography, landscape, portraiture, motorsports and birding. No single camera is gonna do it all, hence looking at a variety of options. It is more cost effective for me at the moment to buy used DSLRs than a single new mirrorless camera. I am leaning towards the R5 due to the 45mp and much cleaner high ISO noise performance (probably close to 2 stops over the R7 imho), better UI and the availability of a vertical battery grip. Why Canon didn't make One for the R7 and stopped 3rd party manufacturers from even making One is beyond me. I don't like a company telling me what's best for me. I like to have CHOICE and not assumed to be an idiot who can't make an informed decision. I also dislike Canon's CrippleHammer™ behaviour. What are your thoughts on my "battle" plan?
Has there been any improvement due to 1.6.0? You can charge the LP-E6NH with a USB-C cable, I haven’t yet determined if this happens in a reasonable time. Perhaps the R3 might be more suitable for those quick shots as it has a faster sensor and is designed for sports photographers. It also has the larger body as it has the grip built in. It however only takes 20mp and is far more expensive than the R5, In Australia the R5 is $6300 and the R3 is about $9000. I’m not sure how that compares in your currency. But most imported goods in Australia have a 40% markup compared to the US prices. Freight and exchange rates are not enough to explain the markup.
The prices are equivalent to Australia here - the difference to US prices is usually VAT which is not always applied there. Duty is only charged on video cameras in SA (extra 35% hence the importance of the 29min recording limit that everyone writes off as an anachronism) The R3 is a great camera but I don’t need it. I prefer the pixel density on the R5. I don’t bother with USB charging. I use a grip but rely on my ability to recharge in the vehicle as needed. If I were without a charger for a few days the older optical cameras would be my preference. At longer sightings the battery gets heavily depleted and the camera sometimes has problems with heat (not with photos). Just looking through the viewfinder will cause heat issues. But overall one Learns to work around it. I shoot two bodies so it might be more of a problem for those shooting one body. The spool up time is still annoying and does cost a shot or two. But again we learn to work around it. I haven’t yet tried 1.6 I’ve not been using the camera for a few months while working on other projects.
It’s a great camera - good upgrade on optical - I don’t regret it in the least. Please don’t let my few nitpicks put you off. I wouldn’t give it back! :)
Will, I was one of the first waves to get my R5 back in July and have been a bit disappointed with color, but after seeing your video, it never occurred to me that it could be how poorly Adobe is handling the files! Have you seen any difference with this latest update? I still shoot the MkIV for my every day real estate work and don't get an opportunity to shoot the R5 enough.
Ron Castle Hi Ron, I haven’t had my camera since this video. Canon has been looking at it for weeks. I just got a replacement but haven’t taken a shot. So I haven’t noticed any difference in LRC. But, it’s an easy workaround to open the file in Canon DPP then apply the correct colour profile and then export to TIF and import that to LRC or Photoshop(colour correct) and work on it further. You could convert the TIf to DNG after this. If you work purely in adobe the files look dreadful.
@@WillGoodlet I normally convert to DNG when I import all my files, but thanks to you, I'm going to change that for the R5 for now! Your review was really great and I can't believe you're so responsive to comments. I'm curious if you know an outfitter there in South Africa, Phillip Bronkhorst? I was planning a photo safari with him for this year before all the COVID stuff happened, but hope to re-book for this coming summer.
Ron Castle yes I think that is wise - don’t want to bake in that colour!! I work on writing/videos etc late into the night, so I see the comments come in and try to answer questions first. :) I don’t know Phillip, so sorry you had to postpone/cancel. Hopefully things will start getting back on track earlier rather than later next year. A lot of people in travel will be going bust, hang on to your deposit if you do book (if possible)
As per Rudy Winston (Canon USA) the animal AF has been optimized for cats, dogs and birds although It may work for other animals. It will likely be tweaked/expanded in future firmware revisions. The DOF preview button can also be configured to engage an alternate AF scenario.
Hi Steve, thanks for the info. Yep, I am aware that it is not optimised for these species - but we are all going to try aren't we :) Important for my compatriots to be aware of any limitations over here as they are a large component of what they shoot. I'm sure, as you say, that features will be added.
Hi Will. I am Madhukar from India. I have 5d Mark iv and 100 400mm combination. I mostly click birds. Though I started with 7D mark ii, I sadly sold it. My problem is mostly 'reach'. And because I always click birds handheld, a prime does not suit me. And therefore, I was planning to buy R5 100 - 500mm combination. The issues that you talked about in your video, especially with the viewfinder going blank when not in use, has it been resolved in later updates?? Just wanted to know before I take the plunge. Thanks.
Hi I think the R5 and 100-500 is a good option. The viewfinder will still ‘sleep’ but you can touch a button while bringing it to your eye to turn it on before you look through it. Canon replaced my camera. The new one does not freeze but there are many who have freezing issues. You should explore some forums to see if this is resolved (it was not a firmware update - canon replaced my camera). Good luck
Putting on the lens cap is to avoid user from accidentally damage the shutter when they put the camera on its back, pointing directly into the sun. In DSLR, most of the light will be reflected by the mirror and out through the view finder. In mirroless, if the lens is focusing at infinity, it will focus the sun onto the shutter or sensor, and causing damage.
It's the same for any digital camera - just no long exposures directly at the sun and you CERTAINLY shouldn't look through the viewfinder at a strong sun. I almost always use live view for a rising or setting sun shot with a big lens.
Pieter J de Villiers I think the issue is the shutter is down when powered off to keep dust off the sensor when switching lenses. When the camera is on and you are looking through the lens, the shutter is open and the sensor is exposed to the lens. The sensor is far more stable than the shutter to intense light.
Hi Will, Recently got a Nikon Z7ii and have been completely out of photography since my F4, in the 1980s, so you can imagine my leaning curve, nevertheless I’ll grit my teeth and comment:- A. Ever since the release of HDMI 2.1 (that 0.1 being very important) a couple of years ago, it has been clear that multimedia is moving towards 60-120 fps, at 8-10K. The problem is that this roll out been delayed by the Olympics. Therefore I suggest that you see your Canon or my Nikon as temporarily being stuck on this roadmap. Meanwhile the BBC and NHK have used their decades long technical collaboration to finally sort out RDF, nits, a gamut roadmap, etc., which is now allowing (consumer TV) screen manufacturers to effectively turn what photographers call £4,000 -10,000) “Terminals” into cheap consumer TVs. So much for my direct experience but a key issue in buying and camera is where it is on this global roadmap and what firmware updates will follow. B. I know nothing about Canon but Nikon with the Z6ii (for video) and Z7ii (still) is positioning itself interestingly with this global roadmap. For example, suddenly with the v1.20 firmware, all the issues that you raise about your Canon have perhaps completely disappeared in my Nikon. So will Canon do the same? Does a Nikon have enough in-camera Digital Signal Processing on the Z6ii to fulfil that global roadmap in terms of video, etc? And will the touted Z9 (that won’t be using the sensor from Sony) finally implement that global roadmap to say, 10k at 120 fps (& all the rest) per Formant? If you’ve that camera in your hands, I’d say that you’ll be able to compete with Hollywood (although you’ll need some Zeiss -T and anamorphic. BTW check out anamorphic for wildlife)! Finally and personally to restate I’m not tribal regarding brands. Because of Covid I accidentally imported “grey” and got a Nikon without any research whatsoever. I then destroyed my Z7ii (a retro lens sucked in so much light that I could write on the LCD on the back of the body & mechanically - an somewhat unusual adapter went rogue and warped the Z mount). Despite this Nikon Europe have behaved well and are fixing it all for free. Something similar happened in the 80s to my F4 in Japan, when I sent it down a stone staircase with a telephoto on. By which I mean to say: please don’t be tribal and take a serious look at Nikon, rather than worry about the precise and hopefully momentary characteristics of your current camera. Best regards Stephen
Hi Stephen, thanks so much for sharing all this experience, I think a lot of people will be interested in what you've said. Sorry to hear about the damage to your camera, I really hope they can fix it and it doesn't cost too much! On a side note - one of the reasons I drive 12 year old and 27 year old landys is because the new tech is too hard to fix! I guess that has been the case with cameras for much longer though, and you're very brave if you take a screwdriver to one! I've never been tribal. In the film era I shot Pentax. I transitioned to Canon in 2013. I shoot Canon because it's cheaper to do so over here. Much bigger second hand market and much easier to sell the gear on. I've been wanting a high resolution full frame for my 400mm f2.8 for years (waiting for canon to make something similar to the D810/D850) but the only offering was the 5Dsr which had too low a frame rate. The R5 has addressed this very well for me. Canon replaced my original camera and the new one has not frozen up (thankfully). The freezing was one of the biggest concerns for me. I am still keeping a DSLR too for use on longer sightings I like to be able to use it like a telescope to keep an eye on activity and it's more pleasant to use than mirrorless for that. I use the R5 for video and mainly for birds and action which typically don't require so much from the battery. All in all it's good and meeting my needs.
@@WillGoodlet Hi Will, thank you for your detailed reply. Somehow I feel like you’ll check out the points that I raised in my original message but haven’t replied to here? At least I hope so! Somewhere or other I (or you) also mentioned Gestalt (Caravaggio and from him, founded still life) and Rembrandt (for those brown KZ-N colours and shade that covers his eyes, etc). I would therefore suggest that you’re engaged in more than the business of point and shot photography, however wonderfull that is. Anyway please don’t feel that you need to reply to me. You’re a busy man and I’m a world away. Stephen
Hey will, i have the R5 aswell and i can confirm your experience with the Animal EYE AF and i also have set up the Camera with dual backbutton focus! Funny that Wildlife-photographers around the World think in the same way and come to the same solutions to a problem! You didnt mention it, do you have the function active so that the Eye AF starts with the closest Focuspoint in the EVF you have selected? I noticed that it will improve your "hitrate" with the Eye AF because you can choose where to place it with your joystick (like with DSLR's) and if you press the eye AF backbutton it will pick it up right away! I'm shooting with a sigma EF 150-600 Sports and can tell you there is no real diffrence between native canon EF and third party lenses at all (i have 70-200 2.8 -with tc- and 24-70 2.8 as well). There are firmware updates for the R5, did you update your camera? Did it solve your Problem with the 400 mm 2.8? I'm very intrested in that because i am about to buy an EF 400 2.8 II ! Thanks for the helpful review! One of the best reviews out there! Greetings from Germany and all the best!
Hi, thanks so much for the helpful info and for watching, it's highly appreciated. Great to compare notes! Yes that's how I am using it too - but I am still exploring. I don't have the camera at the moment so it will have to wait til it comes back. Glad to hear that the 3rd party lenses are working well too. Someone had a problem with freezing on a Tamron though. The firmware came out just after I packed up my camera so I haven't updated to 1.11 yet. Hopefully Canon will tell me what's wrong when they look at the cam.
Hi! Thanks so much for the video - it's by far the best I've seen on using the R5. I wonder, can you help me solve a problem? For bird photography on my R5, on AF Tab 1 I have set: AF Operation to Servo; AF Method to Face + Tracking; Subject to Animals; Eye Detection to Enable. However, I just cannot figure out the difference between the settings on AF Tab 5 - Initial Servo Point. I have tried all three but just cannot see any difference. What is this all about and does it matter?
Hi David, thanks for watching! AF5 initial AF point is just the selection of the starting point for Servo focus. You can select different AF points on the camera. If you set it not to be auto it will use the AF point you have previously selected as a starting point to try to achieve focus. If this point is in the centre you are unlikely to notice a difference but if in the corner, you will note that face tracking and eye af start to look for subjects in that corner as a preference. Hope this makes sense?
@@WillGoodlet Many thanks. That helps a lot. I rarely move the focus point because I shoot mainly hand-held and prefer the old-school half-press and recompose. That will be why I have failed to notice a difference between the settings. Thanks agin.
Hi, Please don't let me put you off the camera, it's a good one. I think you need to try one out first and see if it fits your photography. I know there is a global shortage but hopefully you will be able to try one at some point! It has revolutionised some parts of my photography but I don't want to pretend that it is perfect. However, most of the time I choose to pick up this camera ahead of my DSLRs. I'm sure the R1 will also be a technical marvel. Happy shooting and thanks for watching.
Good day Will. I have been using the R5 for just over a month. I use LR cc to import and convert my images to the DNG format. I just came across a thread on another site that seem to indicate that there is some sort of Canon r5/r6 vs lightroom color profile issue. Truthfully, I am a little soft with some of the technical stuff. Do you mind me asking what colour profile you use for the R5 when you import into LR? Thank you.
Hi Michael, yeah it’s a problem. I would definitely avoid a conversion to dng because this will bake in the Adobe colour. Lr supports CR3 so that is better because at least then u can go back if you need to. To get the best from the files right now, I should use Canon DPP set the camera profile in there, make basic adjustments and bring a copy in the form of a Tif into Lr. I know it’s a pain in the butt but will yield proper canon colours. Also, I have made a camera matched custom profile that works in Lightroom. I am thinking about sharing this with the community after more testing.
hi Will, di you find the answer to the , "keep the lens cap on after you turn the camera off" message?...with a 600mm lens which has no normal cap?..cheers andy
It has a narrow field of view so it’s easier to keep it pointed away from bright lights / sun. But my current method is to throw a jacket over the end. :)
Your accent, pronunciation, is so close to the RP they tried to teach us at school in the 1970s, ESL at that. Your speech is like music. And I loved the video with its practical advice. Given the battery life, would an R3 be overkill? We were robbed and need to replace all our equipment, so we start with a blank slate. Kgalagadi, Mokala, Tankwa, Camdeboo - mostly wildlife shots.
So sorry to hear of the robbery. Hope everyone was ok and you haven’t lost too much. Thanks for watching and the compliment! I think the R5 with its extra pixels is a good option. For battery, using a grip is a useful. When shooting from the car it’s easy to recharge with an inverter fitted or 12v adapter. The AF, focus speed and video on the R3 are the main pros. If you have a long lens and don’t need to crop too much it’s really nice but only really becomes a better one than the R5 where your subjects are very active and fast moving. Not that the R5 can’t manage these, it’s very good, just that the R3 will be slightly better (probably more so with older ef lenses too). Not forgetting output - for larger prints the R5 is likely a better choice. Especially if landscapes are also something you photograph.
@@WillGoodlet Living with disability, and no insurance as a result, we lost all our camera eqpt. Whether they took 1 or 10 doesn't matter; they took all we had. Mr Zimmerman did benefit very well.
@@unwoke1652 so sorry to hear this. Our insurance co trebled the cost after too. For camera equipment- try insurance through compendium brokers they offer an “art insure” policy for photographers underwritten by Hollard. I’ve found them to pay claims well and even to damaged gear.
Hi there, yes the previous video deals with the 100-400 mk2 and R5. There is a list of lenses supported in the downloadable manual on the canon website
I shot compressed raw for a while, until I started noticing jpeg like compression artefacts. It was a few weeks later that I realised these were artefacts of the LrC preview and not the compressed raw canon format (going through a dumb period perhaps). I can't see any substantive difference in the raw, it processing characteristics or the processed image.
@@WillGoodlet You're welcome and I agree. Look at all complaints from people using fuji x-trans sensors. This is what DXO appear to be trying to tap with their PureRaw product, but I don't think many people have realised that their problems may start at that point and I suspect Adobe's poor colour performance on CR3 files starts at that point, given how many subtle difference there are aside from simple colour calibration alone.
Another problem:::: In Lightroom the CFEXPRESS cards shows up as a hard disk; ( using Mac) and I cannot download direct to another hard disk like the the SD cards do. Would appreciate another way to get around it. Thanks Will.
Hi, I don't have the R6 but I have developed profiles with images donated by others with the camera - from what I can see, it makes very nice files. Less noise and very croppable. I think it's a very good camera.
Thanks for that qick reply...love your chanel. Yea I was looking to step up from crop and almost got a 5d miv but was not liking the fixed screen and worried about heavy low pass filter. Now I really like animal eye and electronic shutter on the R6.
Wow…thanks a million for the in depth review, really well done ….1 have had the same issue with 400 2.8 and converter of lockup…2 no difference in Raw and Craw… 3 battery destroyer as well looking forward to more..appreciate your hard work…
Thanks Freddie - yep I did. Canon replaced the camera and the new one has been very well behaved. I am not alone in having the ‘freeze’ issue others are also getting it. Not sure what the diagnosis is.
I hope to have my replacement camera soon - hope this one works out better. A lot of people with similar complaints. Otherwise, I feel it is an excellent camera.
@@WillGoodlet good lets hope you had a faulty version . i had similar troubles with a d850 . it turned out to be the sd card , slowed everything down . really had my doubts luckily i had a kingston red high speed card . transformed it instantly .. craziest thing . im more learned on the little tykes now , thanks for the great informative videos Will , all the best
Good review, Will. I"m still waiting for my R5 but regarding the EVF lag time you described, per DPReview at 12fps you get the "slideshow" you're describing but at the 8fps setting and [Cont.H] High Speed Display turned on you'll get a live view between frames,
Ok thanks for this - looking forward to getting into it again. I haven’t had the camera since this video - just got a replacement a day ago! Look forward to trying this out :)
Colin at colorfidelity sells colour profiles for $15 that come very close to DPP4. My R5 hasn't shipped yet, so I haven't tried the R5 profile myself, but the profiles for my other Canon cameras are very good. Adobe has confirmed that exposure is off and is working on a fix, so that's one less thing to fix manually.
Thanks, I saw a mention of colorfidelity, looks good. I wanted to have a try at making my own profiles (something to do). Glad to hear that Adobe is working on it!
Thank you for your interesting and sincere testimony. I have R5 and 5Dmk IV and so far will keep both. I didn’t have any problem of freezing with the R5 so far. I found the RF 70-200 less user friendly than the EF 70-200 besides the weight. The zoom ring is indeed very stiff and its rotating range very long compared to the EF version. Another annoying thing with RF lenses is that canon changed the order of rings between them so you constantly need to adjust to find which ring does what when you swap lenses. Otherwise yes R5 and RF lenses are just another world on so many aspects that they are really worth the investment.
Hi, again sorry for the late reply - very interesting to get your feedback on the RF lenses. I'd like to try them but cannot justify the expense currently. I am sure they offer some improvements with regard to Autofocus? Either way, I am happy with the replacement R5, no freezing touch wood! And delighted with the performance of my EF lenses - I was worried I would have to sell most but they work very well.
Hey Will, as always thanks for yet another excellent video. I too have been toying with the idea of making the move to mirrorless, or at least adding the R5 to my arsenal of options for wildlife photography. At present my main body is a 1Dx Mk ii and a 7D Mkii as the second body and while I'm really happy with the combo I can't help but wonder if it's worth the added expense. So for the moment I'm still undecided but will wait and see how you like it after you've had it for a little longer. Once again thanks for sharing your insights, happy shooting and stay safe..... JC
Hell you can use an old Nikon FM2n for wildlife, weddings, portraits, landscape amd more. Its never been about tje equipment its about the person behind the camera. Always was and always will be.
By far the best R5 review I have seen.
Thank you Chris!
Best review of using a mirrorless camera... period. And i speak as a card carrying Nikon dslr and Fuji user.
I couldn’t find a better overview and review....
This is a real review not a fan/hater review. Great Camera. But not the perfect one (that doesn't exits). Thanks for sharing this
Thanks Pablo, yep no perfect cameras :) Just a lot of fun using them and learning how to get the best out of the one you have!
So nice to to listen to someone who actually knows what he's talking about and gives good rational for his conclusions.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it! Still sticking with the Mark ii N ? (not a bad option - even today if one could find any for sale! :) )
@@WillGoodlet I love mine but watching your channel is bad for me...you've got me looking for a second hand 7Dmark2 as a back up/second body :)
Agree, Something different from the Hype searching influencers, which discuss for weeks about overheating
lol i have LUMIX Gx85
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This video is pure gold for someone looking at the R5 for wildlife. Total honest review from a man who KNOWS his stuff through 1000's of hours of experience.
Thanks a lot! Really appreciated. It's a great camera, did you make a decision?
@@WillGoodlet I'm already invested in the Sony ecosystem, I own the A7R3 and have both the 100-400 and 200-600 lenses. Very happy with the results but the R3 isn't exactly a fast focusing camera so things like birds in flight often frustrate me, however, when you do get perfect focus the images are incomparable, actually better than the A9 if you need to recover shadows because of the great dynamic range. I'm waiting to see what's on the horizon for Sony next, supposedly an A9 with 50 megapixels is coming soon. With all this said I'm always curious and open to all brands, if Canon pulled way ahead of Sony I'd consider going back to their system but for now I don't see a huge advantage and they don't have fast affordable zooms yet either. I don't think I could use a 600mm f/11. All I've seen for the R5 are praise so seeing you point out some of it's shortcomings was refreshing. Even today I think the Nikon D850 is still a great wildlife camera, I almost went that route but it's clear everyone is moving towards mirrorless.
@@robwasnj Coming from a Pentax and Minolta SLR, 36 shots at ISO 400 and a 300mm manual focus lens - I can't really complain about any of the cameras we have at our fingertips these days! We are truly blessed. Just wish they were cheaper ;)
@@WillGoodlet Yeah, I'm old enough to remember those days. For me it was a Chinon CE3, then a Nikon F3HP. I acdtually had a darkroom and also worked for a cousin that owned a processing lab. I actually miss a lot of those days, all the technical craft you needed to have isn't there so the bar is lower. I still have sunny 16 in the back of my head when shooting outdoors, I often test myself and guess exposure even today. I just never attemped wildlife with those cameras.
@@robwasnj good to see someone else uses the sunny f16 rule. I also use hyperfocal distance too, although most modern lenses don't bloody well offer any markings for it anymore :-/ old school here, but didn't get into photography until '89.
Thanks Will, a really helpful review. You mention the lag in the EVF start up. I wake it up by half pressing the shutter button as I'm bringing the camera to my eye. That way it's on by the time it gets there and I'm ready to go. After a very short time muscle memory kicks in and it becomes automatic.
Good tip! Thanks for that, I'll try it!
A good tip...thanks
My Z6 has the same quirk and is overcome by doing exactly as you suggest,it becomes second nature.
Agreed this is a great tip as I also found using the original R with my old 300 2.8 that when I left it lying on the car seat next to mine if it got to close to the centre console it would cause the EVF and IS to engage (no option 3) which chewed up batteries LOL. I now use my bean bag upside down to hold the camera clear of this. The only other option was to switch off / on to safeguard which is not ideal but I use when I notice battery levels dropping (the new lug on the R5 on/off switch also helps with this)
I do the same with my R
Here's some quality review! Finally someone who uses the camera for what's intended. Thank you.
Hi Boris, thanks for watching :)
One of the best reviews about any product online! And very useful tips. Everything you said is after field use and after facing real-time challenges. Thanks for sharing
Hi Will. Three years down the line , very informative and very helpful one new subscriber.
So glad it was helpful!
That was such a great video. A very humble and honest review of the camera with no hype or bs. You have a very nice tone of voice too.
Great to see the change of backgrounds and the punctuation of photos and b roll.
An excellent overview of the R5 and very interesting to me as I am about to buy this camera. Like you I am also new to mirrorless, the R5 will be my first.
Thanks so much, really kind of you! I think it is a great camera. Many of my issues with spool up time were addressed by experienced mirrorless shooters in the comments. So don't worry about that..
The freezing issue seems hit or miss, Canon Europe took mine for evaluation and gave it back only on Thursday. At which point Canon Japan insisted on replacing it. I don't know why as I'd previously refused a replacement.
It's a spectacular camera but they seem to be having some teething trouble!
Super great video Will! The other fellow who has this kind of thorough, helpful and thoughtful reviews is Ron Bielefeld. You're both splendid. I learned a lot here about my 7D Mk 2! I have new respect for it. And I agree with a later vid of yours "Is there a place for dSLRs in this current wildlife scene?". I would like to know what you think of the R6 (Mk 2) if you ever get the chance to borrow one.
6:50 I am late to the party, but here it is: in DSLR, when you leave a len uncovered, if there's a strong light (heat), it reflects up the mirror and get out through the eyepiece. By the time it is past the eye focal point, the light is already scattered and no more intense. (Imagine heating up with a magnifying glass). However, in mirrorless, because there's no mirror, light & heat entering the len is directly hitting the sensor focused. So, while it rest, if it happen to point towards a sun, it'll literally fry your camera's sensor. Hence the warning notification.
All you need to do is cover the lens front with a thin black piece of clothe or simply point it away from bright light/heat.
Thanks Themi! Yep I think you are spot on with this comment. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
@@WillGoodlet My pleasure! And thanks for making this insightful and practical video.
I believe there's an extra nuance with the R5, which is that (I think be default) the shutter closes when the camera is off. This means that there's the potential for sunlight to melt the shutter, which is rather more delicate than the sensor.
Beautiful vlog , @Will Goodlet ! I really appreciate you make this for us, your viewers! :) In Uruguay, we have to ride a lot as well, it's not the same as your country, but many birds, or wildlife animals are very far, we have quite a bit of smaller lakes (whe we don't have this draught) . But those are in private fields, so yeah, distance is a normal situation! I love you that you so down to earth!!! Thank you again.
Hey Will - if you keep the lens cap off, and sunlight hits the lens directly, it'll concentrate the light on the closed shutter blades and burn them. You can tell the camera to keep the shutter open when off if you don't want to cover the lens, but be wary of changing lenses as there is no mirror to protect the sensor.
Thanks Morgan, yep I think that is the consensus of opinion. I am keeping mine off as I am shooting from the car most of the time. Will just have to be more careful!
@@WillGoodlet good luck! I found the other comments explaining this after I'd posted, sorry about the duplicate info haha
@@MorganHJackson No worries :)
@@WillGoodlet Will, there are custom lens caps for the super telephoto lenses available on eBay. I'm looking at 1 for my 500mm f4 IS L (mark 1 sadly, can't afford a mark II - not a working pro making money, just a hobbyist).
Lens compatibility charts (Various) :-
www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997146
Or
www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997136
Or
www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997138
Or
www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997142
Or
www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997140
Or
www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1990615
Thanks Rod!
This is a *great* review of the R5. I'm even more impressed by your genuine engagement with viewers in the comments. Subscribed!
Thanks Timothy! And thanks for the sub, hope I'll be seeing you around for many more videos in future :)
Hi Will, I use raw files. I paid for a 45 mp and I love it. Thanks for your helpfull videos !
Hey Will, I rarely watch a youtube video all the way through. But I did with yours. All 26 minutes. Thanks for providing a fantastic review of this camera. Not only did I enjoy the review I learned a lot about wildlife photography (I shoot landscapes primarily). I subscribed and look forward to catching up with some of your earlier videos. PS. I am getting the r6. The r5 was just a little above my budget.
Hi Graeme, great to hear from you and thanks for sitting through 26minutes of wildlife blather. I also love to shoot landscapes, particularly under the stars. I've found that it is quite hard to do in South Africa because the land is all fenced off and the farmers are very jumpy and in national parks, the animals want to eat you. I was hoping to explore some of my favourite spots on the channel when I get the chance.
First of all i would like to say that i love your videos, you are amazing on all fronts. i like to add that after extensive and in depth testing (took me many hours) to find differences between CRAW and RAW i can say for sure that Craw lose a bit of details.
mostly you will find it in the shadows recovery. in some shots i was able to recover so much detail from a RAW file that i was actually abe to identify the object. (although with a lot of noise) with a CRAW that object had no details and was not useful to recover at all.
after seeing that i am back to RAW.
That being said, if your exposing the photo 100% perfectly the only way to find the difference is by zooming in 500% and putting on glasses.
Thank you very much for watching and thanks too for the insights too. The way my eyesight is going, I may have to zoom in more!!
Thumbs up fist, then start commenting:-) I've been waiting so much to hear your experiences with the R5.
Your thought on dpp is a true review best to go with dpp. Also craw is best. Thanks for those practical tips.
I shot 90D, and it also has compressed raw. I tested it many times and I just couldn’t see any difference between compressed and uncompressed.
Thanks so much for corroborating. I never tried it before but I think it's great now.
Yes, even the same goes to my 5D IV. Cant see a difference shooting in medium raw...not sure if its the same you are talking about
Canon on the uses of Ef lenses: www.canon-europe.com/pro/stories/rf-versus-ef-lenses/
though on FOCUS BRACKETING: canoncanada.custhelp.com/app/answers/answer_view/a_id/1033727/~/compatible-lens-list-for-%5Bfocus-bracketing%5D-%28eos-r5%2Feos-r6%29
Thanks Dan! Apologies, your comment was held back because of the links. Thanks for sharing this info!
EVF will spool up in time. First, use only the new high capacity batteries. Second, program the shutter button to focus. Now, when your hand reaches for the camera, immediately press the shutter button half down. By the time the camera is at your eye, the EVF is working. After you do this for a day, it becomes second nature. (You can do the same with back button focus)
Yes this is a great Idea, I'll try it out as soon as the cam comes back.
Will sir, YOUR THE MAN!! Thank you, Im SOLD on getting this and upgrading from my 90d
Thanks for watching Robert. There’s been some new firmware since this video and the issues with much of the freezing seems to have stopped.
Bear in mind that they will announce a mark ii in the first part of 2024 and you might see a price drop then.
I love mine
@@WillGoodlet That is good to hear. It will take me a bit to save up for it anyways but it seems a HUGE upgrade other than battery life from my 90d
@robertbennett6410 yes it will be quite a revelation!
This review was so clear and concise you got yourself a new subscriber 👍🏼
Thanks Christian, really appreciated! I'm glad you liked it. I mainly do in the field vlogs when we aren't locked down. Hope to see you around :)
If you tap the shutter button as you lift the camera to your eye it will wake up the camera and the evf will be active no time lag
I believe that the message to put your lens cap on is because of the danger of damaging your sensor or the curtain in front of it. On our old DSLRs the sunlight hit the mirror and out the viewfinder, now it goes straight to the sensor. I think if you don’t have the sunlight hitting the lens you’ll be fine. If the lens is looking at the inside of the door on you Rover there’s not a problem. Just my thoughts.
Thanks Bruce, makes sense about the mirror. Forgot about that! Yes I like the lens up against the door panel just in case. I think if its a sunlight thing then it should be pretty safe there.
Hi Will, have you ever tried to use 100-400mm mk ii with 1,4x teleconvertor on your R5?
The reason why I'm asking is because I've ordered the R6 and I've never used the teleconvertors before and i have 2 canon telephoto zoom lenses. F2,8 70-200mk ii and 100-400mm mk ii, i want to know how the focusing area and focusing speed are affected.
Hi yes it works very well. At the end of my teleconverter video all the focus times are given with the R5 + teleconverters and 100-400
This is the review I’ve been waiting for.
Thanks Ruzdi, greatly appreciated! :)
Will, have been using the R5 for a few months now, and haven't noticed the EVF spool up lag you mention in this excellent video.Seems to me a matter of milliseconds from switch on to EVF available? R5 firmware rev 1.1.1, Canon EF 100-400 L IS II with EF 2x III extender. No camera freeze so far.....
Steve A yep it’s not long and the R5 is fast compared to other mirrorless I’ve tried, but significant enough to be a notable difference to DSLR and cost 1-3 shots at the beginning of a sequence . I have been working around it. I leave the camera on and tap a button on the way up to the eye which makes it much less of a problem.
The main issue now is for very long sightings - battery drain vs optical. I now use binoculars more than before. But luckily I shoot mostly from vehicles in warm climates so batteries are not a big problem. I have a stack ready to go.
But if you are on foot, maybe hiking or out all day (or more than one day) in the cold, I think I would maybe hang onto an optical camera for that use case.
Thanks for your input. Its rare to get someone on TH-cam that understands south African conditions. You are a wealth of knowledge and humble.
Thanks for watching Keith, greatly appreciate your support.
Excellent piece! I have not run into many of the issues you pointed out but I squarely blame the pandemic for that! I am hoping that this year will be better. Already missed the migratory birds this year so will have to wait another year for them.
I have two comments for you:
1. Excellent voice levels all through! I think there was just one scene change where the level was slightly different but the difference was marginal.
2. You should shoot with CFExpress. I splurged to get a 512GB card and I am very satisfied. Hopefully you have already got one (or more). If not, come to India. You can get them here. You can shoot Indian wildlife and architecture too! :)
Thanks, hoping you can get out there again too - I was out briefly this morning looking for Amur falcons, they have gone. On the way back to you right now I imagine :)
Audio is always hard to get right, thanks :) And yep, I am using a CFexpress type B at the time of the video they were not yet available. Additionally, the new just released v1.5 firmware supposedly addresses the freezing issue. I hope so!
Thank you for a great review of the R5. I am a canon shooter, of over 10 years, mostly wildlife, 1D MKlV & 5D MKlV, I am amateur, no pressure to generate a living. I am pleased that Canon has finally come to the table with it’s first REAL quality mirrorless. I am going to hold off for some of the bugs to be worked out and the price to drop or for some important incentive reductions. Keep up the great work, I really appreciate this type of honest review.
CRAW is more compressed, about half the file size of RAW. The big differenc will be when you denoise higher isos, eg, iso 12800 and above.
I shoot isos all the time and can clean up iso 12800 very well, iso 6400 hearly perfectly, without loosing detail. To denoise effetively you need fine pin prick pixel size noise to work with. Once you add compression, the noise shares with its neighbours pixels and it turns to mini blobs - this is much more difficult, or impossible to denoise. Shoot RAW.
Thanks for this. I will finally be getting some Cfexpress B cards next week. The prices were double over here but the currency has strengthened against the USD so it was time to bite the bullet. With the extra space, I will keep this advice in mind.
I am not only impressed with your video, but these comments are awesome too. What a great community you have! I am struggling with the price tag of the R5. I am not a professional photographer (or that great of a novice photographer for that matter) but I am starting to hit the limitations of my 80D. I was thinking 5D until this beauty was introduced. Now I'm just stuck in the decisions. 🙄 Thanks for the wonderful info. New sub.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment and subscribe! Yeah there are a lot o great comments in the thread - plenty of really helpful people around :)
The R5 is spectacular but so is the R6..
it might be important to just ensure you have enough resolution for your subject before going to any of the full frame options though.
The 80D is offering a lot of pixels that the other cameras don’t have! What are your subjects?
Such a good review! Nice video Will!
Thanks a ton!
I wanted to thank you for producing an honest and practical review of the r5. I mostly do wildlife with landscape coming in second. I was contemplating selling my 1DX and 1D MK4 to pay for the r5 but after your review I think I'll keep one of them, just not sure which one. I have placed an order for the r5 and the adapter for my current lens collection and an extra battery. Thanks again for all the info.
Hi Gary, great to hear the video was useful. Thanks for watching and leaving me a comment here. Good luck with the R5!
I shoot with the R5 and the 400mm f2.8 iii and I have not had the issues you have had.
With freezing? It’s somewhat improved with firmware but also if you don’t use the eye af for too long - say more than 15 seconds, especially with TC attached
Thanks for this review. I'll stick to my 5D4 - you've saved me GBP4,300!
Glad it was helpful. Pretty sure the 5D4 is excellent.
@@WillGoodlet would you say 5D4 is better than R5?
Depends what for, but for me and for wildlife, no - the R5 is better
I just purchased an R6, straight away freeze up twice in a 3 hour bird shoot, froze when half pressing the shutter to focus. Anyway I have sent camera back for a refund. I did toy with the idea of an R5, but not now I know they also have freeze ups. Its not good enough, these cameras are not cheap! Iam not impressed with all the other negative things re these cameras, rolling shutter etc etc
Sorry to hear that. The firmware has improved things but they still freeze from time to time - you need to remove the battery. They freeze when focusing for longer periods of time. You kind of learn to work around it. I also noticed when testing the sigma 150-600 contemporary lens on the R6 that it did NOT freeze but the canon 100-400 mark ii DID freeze. It’s a pain in the butt…
Will, Thanks for discussion of the EV spool up. That would seriously frustrate me. I need to act quick to capture birds and mammals when I come upon them. For now I will keep my 5D4 and 90D. I am wondering if Canon has an R7 up their sleeve for quick action bird photography?
Hi Mark, glad it was useful!. A lot of the more experienced mirrorless guys suggested tapping a button on the way up to the eye, I tried it and it did help quite a lot. I think that the APS-C might not make an appearance in RF format. It seems sensible to rationalise the lens line-up, maybe we are going back to the days before digital where we just had 35mm - but now with slightly longer RF glass to compensate? 100-500. 600 F11, 800F11, 250 f2.8 etc...? All I know is it's an exciting time.
I am using compressed raw format and although early days I would agree with you regarding the quality of the image. I am currently shooting exclusively in this format. The other change in my photo technique is getting away from tracking the bird with the autofocus point. Once the eye focus locks on you can of course recompose the image but it is not yet intuitive to me.
Thank you!!! Great Review!!! Some real world issues without of the hype:)))
Thanks Earl! Glad you liked it :)
Here is the certified list from Canon's website - support.usa.canon.com/kb/index?page=content&id=ART177429&actp=LIST
Thanks Reginald :)
Thanks for the excellent clear review Will. I am certainly considering the R5 after seeing this. Cheers Keith
Thanks for the feedback Keith, appreciated!
Hi Will, its your video that convinced me it was time to leave my old 1DX mk1 / 7D2 behind. It was like id jumped from an old hatchback car to a ferrari! Its just amazing. Yep, takes an old DSLR shooter a while to get used to. The ISO performance is at least as good as my 1DX which given the pixels is amazing. Ive set the camera up where i can jump from animal eye to spot and also crop mode and it works a treat. Agree with the autofocus. It can be amazing but also isn't perfect in certain situations. So far mine hasn't frozen but there's lots of internet chatter that some have had the same problem. My only gripe wasn't the camera but I've had a few faulty LPE6NH batteries. Brand new but wont charge. So yes, your review is bang on and your pics amazing.
Hi Mick, thanks for watching and congratulations on the new camera! I've got the same setup with eye & spot AF on back buttons next to each other. Canon replaced my camera as a result of freezing, and my new one has only just started to freeze again. It does it when I hold the autofocus button in for more than 30 seconds or so. I have just learned not to do that. Not good to hear about the LPE6NH batteries - I only have two of them and they are OK. I'm lucky in that I can recharge the older LPE6N's in my car and just rotate them.
I think, like any camera, you get used to its foibles. The R5 & 6 are definitely a giant leap forward, and my 7DMark ii is now sitting on a shelf most of the time.
Great review from an experienced wildlife photographer. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it thank you David!
Thankyou Will.Great informative video relating to the Canon R5
Thanks John, appreciated!
English not my native language, but Your speech so amazing and clearly understanding! Thanks for conclusion and perfect review 🙏
Evgeny, thank you so much, I really appreciate the feedback! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
You invited us to ask about other things to test. The only reason I would buy a new camera right now is for full frame with auto iso and focus bracketing. I think the R5 is Canon's only camera that has those features. Can you test auto iso and focus bracketing? Thanks.
Ok thanks for the suggestion, certainly not familiar area for me! I will have a go at that when I get the camera back from canon.
The keep the lens cap on message when turning off the camera is common to all EOS R_ series of cameras. The new RF Lenses have this feature where upon switching the camera off, the aperture blades in the lens close down automatically but this doesn’t occur with EF Lenses leading to more light going down the lens barrel compared to a similar EF Lens equivalent
HI Judah, thanks yeah I believe that is correct - having only shot DSLR I was not aware. I am just going to take care where I point the telephotos when they are not in use.
but when you shut down the R5 the curtain is closing the access to the sensor, so i wonder what's the point in all of this.
Do you not find the fact that IS runs continuously on your EF400 f/2.8 L IS on the R5 an annoyance at least and a concern for the long term health of the lens a possibility? Drives me nuts on my EF300 f/2.8L IS (v.1.) Can't help battery longevity either. Have to switch IS off on the lens . . . and we know how that goes!
I have found a use for the universally maligned touch bar of the EOS R. I use it to keep the EVF "awake." It has an advantage that doing this does not activate AF so the lens does not go off searching from my pre-focus point choice. So, LOL!, I'll actually miss not having that touch bar on my R5 when it finally gets here! I must be the only soul who will miss that touch bar!
Hi Terry, I can't actually recall that it did that on my lens? Hmm.
I think you may be the only person on the planet (or the only one I've seen) who likes the touch bar, I hope you told canon your feelings ;)
One of the best camera reviews I have ever seen. Thank you, Will.
Thanks Gene! Wow :)
Just got a R5 I done the firmware and it froze but it hasn't done it again yet.Great video Will.
Thanks Peter and congratulations!!
Watch out for the freezing - my replacement has never frozen. So make sure you have a good one!
Best review so far, thank you. Great to see it in action with the 400 too
Thanks so much for watching and the support!
I have had no issues with EVF. It may be the setting. I use two back button focus to assist the camera on where I need to hit. Loving my R5.
Me too! I’ve found that I can leave it switched on and it starts up when you touch a button. The replaced camera hasn’t frozen at all (touch wood) so it’s been good - I must do an update video
Will, There is a list of all EF lenses that support 12 frames per second on pages 895 and 896 of the PDF user manual you can get from the Canon sites. Nothing about image stabilisation though. Is this what you’re looking for?
Cheers Mal, maybe yes! Thank you for that. I keep seeing an asterix in the specs list and the note says 'list of lenses available on the canon website' but never find it.
@@WillGoodlet Canon UK have a list of lenses which improve IS here: www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-r5.html?type=faq&search=1&searchurl=/support/consumer_products/content/faq/?itemid=tcm:14-1997136. Unfortunately for you, they all seem to be RF mount.
My R5 freezes just today. I updated to the latest firmware already. It does not happen a lot but it does once in a while. It is kind of annoying!
Hey Ryan, I'm sorry to hear that. Did you tell Canon and the retailer? Maybe a good idea just to inform them just in case it gets worse in future..
Yeah it can be really annoying, especially as it often happens when you are using the camera in intense situations and it can cause you to miss good shots. If I missed a cheetah chase because of an issue like this I'd probably punch something (probably the camera)! Needs to be a reliable option for those rare moments.
Will its the first time I've seen your videos thank you for all the detailed information on the R5 because I am thinking of
buying one and also I liked how clear every word spoken and believe when I say there are a lot tutorials that are
garbage.
Clive Woolley many thanks for watching it Clive and greatly appreciate your time commenting too! Glad it was useful :)
Re, the lens cap warning. I saw on another mirrorless camera video the suggestion/thought was that sun light down the lens would melt the sensor when not in use. Not sure if this is the case here.
Sunlight will burn out the shutter (set to close to keep dust out) as it’s more vulnerable than the mirror on cameras that don’t close the shutter.
Of course dslr shine the light via the mirror safely out the viewfinder!
Hi Will, you are not alone with the freeze issue, lots of others including me. Same happened to me two mornings in a row, first with 300mmf2.8 mkii and then with the RF70 200mm f2.8, screen/evf freeze 20 seconds, soft clunk like camera power up. I download the latest firmware 1.1.1 yesterday, no bug fix mentioned, but no longer an issue so far ....
Thanks for the confirmation Chas - as I mentioned I will test it out with and without the 1.1.1. update - maybe it's nailed the problem (lets hope!)
@@WillGoodlet I am having the freeze issue as well, but only when using the battery grip. I have seen the E2 error once. I powered the camera down and the card was fine after that. I'm not sure if the issue was the CFExpress card or the SD card. I have continued to use the same cards and have only seen the issue the one time. I would be interested to hear if the freeze issue has gone away. I did install the latest firmware (1.1.1) but haven't shot a lot since the firmware update. But overall, I love the R5. It's a bit buggy, but not enough to make me want to give it up.
Hi Fred, thank you for watching and thanks for the very helpful comment too! Battery Grip! Maybe that's it!? I didn't get the freeze before the battery grip. I will have to test this out thoroughly to see if I can identify the cause. I had the Err2 repeatedly, so much that I had to stop using the card - maybe every 30min or so. It was the SD card in my case as I don't have a CFexpress yet. They are coming to collect the camera for assessment on monday - so I have the weekend to test a few things, thanks for the info! Like you I'm keeping this camera - too good!
@@WillGoodlet unfortunately freeze happened again today, I think it might be when the EVF is set to smooth , will try again tomorrow with the other slower EVF setting
I tried to get mine to freeze for a while yesterday and couldn't (v.1.1.1 without battery grip) Tried naked lens, 1.4, 2x and even stacked 1.4 + 2x. insisted on behaving itself. The retailer still hasn't picked it up - I'd rather keep it now knowing that all the cameras are the same.
About sunlight getting in the lens. When you turn off the camera the plastic cover comes down over the lens and that can become heated and melt if sunlight comes through a lens without a cap. In cameras that do not close plastic in front of the sensor, the sensors have UV protection that keeps them from melting from sunlight for the most part.
Thanks Forest. It's a pain in the butt :) I hand my hat off the end at the moment.
About the staccato effect when panning: have you got "automatic review" set to (say) 2 seconds? (That was the default on my Canon R. I don't know about the R5). If so, set it to zero seconds. The short freeze should go away.
Thanks Barry, I don't have the camera (canon is checking it) but review is turned off completely. I'll try again when it comes back.
@@WillGoodlet I had the same issues with the "lag" but I've tweaked settings (dont know which ones as of now) and it is gone! :D feels like my 5dmkIV now. Superhappy about that. So it is most likely a setting or two.
Great to hear Fredrik!
This is the list I found - cam.start.canon/hu/C003/manual/html/UG-09_Reference_0120.html
Thanks Graham - sorry, I only just saw your comment YT holds links back and I didn't realise... Thanks for the link and the info!
Terrific review and very similar to my findings after using the R5 for three weeks.
Thanks so much for watching and great to have confirmation on these thoughts. Hope you are enjoying the camera. Mine's still with Canon.
Hi Will. I don’t know whether, being a hobbyist, I’m in a position to offer any ideas. However, for myself I have settled to stick to DSLRs, come what may. I’m nowhere near your level as a photographer however, I use Canon 1D Mark IV + Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM + Canon Extender EF 2x III. This combo produces a focal length of 780mm of full-frame equivalent. Despite all these; if I need more reach and cropping; I use my new 90D which really rocks.
For flight shots; my old friend 7D + EF 400mm f/5.6L combo is the way to go. All these bodies have plenty of shutter life remaining. So, I don’t really care whether Canon produces any more DSLRs or not.
I know this won’t help you anyway but, mentioned it just to reiterate that DSLR is not dead despite massive efforts by manufacturers and promoters to kill it.
Thanks Quazi, really appreciate you taking the time to set out your thoughts here. It's so valuable to have all this info and input on the thread. You can't really fault the 1D Mark IV and 300 f2.8 they didn't get any worse just because mirrorless came along! The focus speed, 1.3 crop and powerful battery for the converter are a joy to use. And there is always something special about those APS-H sensors. They look gorgeous. What I still like about optical is that the battery lasts, the image through the viewfinder also is REAL and it's much more immersive from the perspective of someone who enjoys watching wildlife. Sometimes we just want to watch right? I think we are lucky too because cameras have become so good that they will do the job - especially if their users know how to take advantage of them. And there is more to photography than the image - wildlife photography at least. It's about being there. Close by, observing, enjoying and being a part of what's happening. It's about the capture but also the feel of the capture. And the feel in the hand of a 1D is very fine indeed. You know you are holding a beautifully crafted instrument.
@@WillGoodlet thank you buddy.
Hi Will
It’s a pity that you have so much investment in Canon gear. I switched from Nikon to Olympus (Em1 mk2) which is a great mirrorless micro 4/3 system. anyway, one great feature for bird photographers is “pro capture” which fills the buffer with 14 shots when you half press the shutter or use back button. Then when you fully press the button it takes the photo as normal. That way if you are a bit slow to press the shutter button you have 14 previous shots in the bag. Burst mode is impressive even using Raw. Olympus Pro lenses are pin sharp and weather sealed. The latest EM1 has Ai to assist with focus. Bonus is the weight and space saving - I now use a messenger bag instead of a rucksack. Also EVF boot up is instant and battery life also good. I have never looked back and sold all my Nikon gear.
Thanks Ray, I’ve had the opportunity to use the Olympus OMD em-1 Mark ii, I reviewed it in a blog post some time ago. I only got to play with it a few days but it was a great camera and a lot of fun a and yes I am jealous of pro-capture :)
Im happy enough with my canon gear but you are correct, I’d like less of it. I love my 400 f2.8 - would find it hard to part with and don’t get me wrong the R5 is a very good camera, I won’t be giving it back soon!
@@WillGoodlet with the 400 f2.8 do you use a x2 TC or x1.4 TC to increase the reach? is the x2 TC sharpness good enough compare to the 1.4? Thank you very much for your sharing hands on experience. They are really helpful.
@@iamleek Hi! I use both TC"s a lot. But I do not feel that super telephotos are best employed to photograph extremely distant subjects and our approach to teleconverters is wrong.
Atmospheric effects degrade image qaulity far more quickly than the teleconverter.
So when we attach a 2x and say- 'oh this is softer than the naked lens' so often the subject is twice as far away when we make that comparison!
The dust, heat haze, vapour and our own camera shake have all degraded the image much more than the converter in that situation.
If you photograph the same subject at the same distance with the naked lens, 1.4 and 2x you will note that the 2x does an amazing job - especially on small, close subjects.
Sorry for the long answer - but I think we wildlife photographers don't always use TC's in the best or most comparable way and then make 'better vs worse" black and white statements that miss so much of the nuances involved.
Hope my perspective helps a litte at least!?
@@WillGoodlet Thank you very very much! That's really make me think very differently on how TC are used. I really like the thoughts you shared and considering the atmospheric condition of the environment.
@@WillGoodlet This is a really insightful observation and one I had not previously considered.
Does the R5 support UHS-1 cards or only UHS-2?
Hi Helgardt, yes UHS-1 work (for stills) but I don't think they are officially supported. For video, you will need the fastest kind to stand any chance of recording more than a few seconds (preferably USH-II and CFExpress).
great thorough field review Will, appreciate it
Many thanks Roger!
Will, I can't afford any of Canon's mirrorless cameras. Have been starting out (birding photography) with a 60D, but have just bought a used 7D II (shutter count only 567 shots apparently; basically new) - what can I expect? I'm hoping that the 7D II is way better in AF as imho, the 60D sucks. Not so worried about fps. Hoping I can get half a stop better high ISO noise performance out of the 7D II, The extra 2mp is a bonus I guess, but won't be readily visible in images imho.
I've been using my 60D with my 300mm f4 IS Land a 1.4x TC (mark 1) and having a lot of AF issues (hunting). I've now managed to save up for a 500mm f4 IS L mark 1 lens and plan to use that sans TC (should give me 800mm reach vs my current 672mm reach and I'm hoping that the AF will be faster, more accurate and I'll have less hunting).
I am just starting out, so my images aren't great. But everyone starts from somewhere. What do you think?
Hi David, not long ago your gear would have been at the top end of the professional spectrum.
I still have my 7D2. With a 500f4 it should deliver excellent images. The crop bodies AF perform better with lower aperture lenses (does your naked 300 f4 hunt?)
I used to have exactly the same 500f4 lens and it was very good on the 7d2. The af system on the 7d2 is a lot more advanced than the 60d particularly for
Moving subjects, but the cameras are similar in other respects.
Hopefully you will see more improved results! Congratulations on the new gear!
@@WillGoodlet My naked 300 f4 has never had what I'd consider great AF performance. My 70-200 f2.8L is much better imho - more accurate, less hunting and snappier. I probably should have returned the lens to Canon in the late 90s when I purchased it as the AF performance has always been something of a dud imho. The 500mm isn't faster, at least it doesn't appear to be so, but it's way snappier and more accurate. I'd been using the 300 with the 1.4x (remember, mark I, so pretty crappy vs mark II/III versions) to get more reach (672mm). The 500mm with the 7D II sans TC should give me 800mm reach, which I am more than happy with.
I am just wanting better AF performance from the body and hoping the 7D II offers this. I'm used to 1D bodies (I have a 1D which you'll pry from my cold dead hands lol) and a 1D Mark IIn (imho, the original 1D smokes every other Canon sensor for IQ and I am not the only person to have said this, I know several pros who have stated the same thing). By IQ, I don't mean ISO performance, or megapixels. I mean simply pure image quality (the look of the colours and overall image). My 1 series bodies AF performance smokes the AF on the 60D, but at 4mp and 8mp, they simply cannot compete vs the 18mp of the 60D.
My long term plans (I'm only working casually, with variable income and I have health problems that limited my income/employment) are to buy a used 1Dx (for motorsports photography), 5D II (for landscape photography - I currently have no FF camera unless I count my 35mm 1n film camera). I am also looking at Canon's mirrorless cameras, but I am NOT happy with their blocking of 3rd party lenses. If I wasn't so committed to Canon, I'd switch to another marque just to protest this anti-competitive and monopolistic behaviour on their part. Using IP to block competitor's is still anti-competitive behaviour and I am hoping the US DOJ will have a nice look at Canon and punish them. However, I am sadly, financially committed to the Canon market, so I have 2 mirrorless options:
1. R7 (APS-C for reach) - with the 500mm sans TC. I find 800mm reach is more than enough.
2. R5 (500mm with the 1.4x TC mark III). This is a far more costlier option for me.
Both are long term options, hopefully in the next 3-4 years, probably both used. A lot of my gear is very old and I have gaps in my gear that make it hard for me to pursue specific genres that interest me (for example, no FF camera). I'm interested in macrophotography, landscape, portraiture, motorsports and birding. No single camera is gonna do it all, hence looking at a variety of options. It is more cost effective for me at the moment to buy used DSLRs than a single new mirrorless camera. I am leaning towards the R5 due to the 45mp and much cleaner high ISO noise performance (probably close to 2 stops over the R7 imho), better UI and the availability of a vertical battery grip. Why Canon didn't make One for the R7 and stopped 3rd party manufacturers from even making One is beyond me. I don't like a company telling me what's best for me. I like to have CHOICE and not assumed to be an idiot who can't make an informed decision. I also dislike Canon's CrippleHammer™ behaviour.
What are your thoughts on my "battle" plan?
excellent video and a good honest review of R5
Thanks Ravi! Appreciated
Has there been any improvement due to 1.6.0?
You can charge the LP-E6NH with a USB-C cable, I haven’t yet determined if this happens in a reasonable time.
Perhaps the R3 might be more suitable for those quick shots as it has a faster sensor and is designed for sports photographers. It also has the larger body as it has the grip built in. It however only takes 20mp and is far more expensive than the R5, In Australia the R5 is $6300 and the R3 is about $9000. I’m not sure how that compares in your currency. But most imported goods in Australia have a 40% markup compared to the US prices. Freight and exchange rates are not enough to explain the markup.
The prices are equivalent to Australia here - the difference to US prices is usually VAT which is not always applied there. Duty is only charged on video cameras in SA (extra 35% hence the importance of the 29min recording limit that everyone writes off as an anachronism)
The R3 is a great camera but I don’t need it. I prefer the pixel density on the R5. I don’t bother with USB charging. I use a grip but rely on my ability to recharge in the vehicle as needed.
If I were without a charger for a few days the older optical cameras would be my preference. At longer sightings the battery gets heavily depleted and the camera sometimes has problems with heat (not with photos). Just looking through the viewfinder will cause heat issues. But overall one
Learns to work around it. I shoot two bodies so it might be more of a problem for those shooting one body.
The spool up time is still annoying and does cost a shot or two. But again we learn to work around it.
I haven’t yet tried 1.6 I’ve not been using the camera for a few months while working on other projects.
It’s a great camera - good upgrade on optical - I don’t regret it in the least. Please don’t let my few nitpicks put you off. I wouldn’t give it back! :)
Will, I was one of the first waves to get my R5 back in July and have been a bit disappointed with color, but after seeing your video, it never occurred to me that it could be how poorly Adobe is handling the files! Have you seen any difference with this latest update? I still shoot the MkIV for my every day real estate work and don't get an opportunity to shoot the R5 enough.
Ron Castle Hi Ron, I haven’t had my camera since this video. Canon has been looking at it for weeks. I just got a replacement but haven’t taken a shot. So I haven’t noticed any difference in LRC. But, it’s an easy workaround to open the file in Canon DPP then apply the correct colour profile and then export to TIF and import that to LRC or Photoshop(colour correct) and work on it further. You could convert the TIf to DNG after this. If you work purely in adobe the files look dreadful.
@@WillGoodlet I normally convert to DNG when I import all my files, but thanks to you, I'm going to change that for the R5 for now! Your review was really great and I can't believe you're so responsive to comments. I'm curious if you know an outfitter there in South Africa, Phillip Bronkhorst? I was planning a photo safari with him for this year before all the COVID stuff happened, but hope to re-book for this coming summer.
Ron Castle yes I think that is wise - don’t want to bake in that colour!!
I work on writing/videos etc late into the night, so I see the comments come in and try to answer questions first. :)
I don’t know Phillip, so sorry you had to postpone/cancel. Hopefully things will start getting back on track earlier rather than later next year. A lot of people in travel will be going bust, hang on to your deposit if you do book (if possible)
@@WillGoodlet Thanks! I will.
As per Rudy Winston (Canon USA) the animal AF has been optimized for cats, dogs and birds although It may work for other animals. It will likely be tweaked/expanded in future firmware revisions. The DOF preview button can also be configured to engage an alternate AF scenario.
Hi Steve, thanks for the info. Yep, I am aware that it is not optimised for these species - but we are all going to try aren't we :) Important for my compatriots to be aware of any limitations over here as they are a large component of what they shoot. I'm sure, as you say, that features will be added.
You’re the best teacher for me sir...
Wow, thanks
Hi Will. I am Madhukar from India. I have 5d Mark iv and 100 400mm combination. I mostly click birds. Though I started with 7D mark ii, I sadly sold it. My problem is mostly 'reach'. And because I always click birds handheld, a prime does not suit me. And therefore, I was planning to buy R5 100 - 500mm combination. The issues that you talked about in your video, especially with the viewfinder going blank when not in use, has it been resolved in later updates?? Just wanted to know before I take the plunge. Thanks.
Hi I think the R5 and 100-500 is a good option.
The viewfinder will still ‘sleep’ but you can touch a button while bringing it to your eye to turn it on before you look through it.
Canon replaced my camera. The new one does not freeze but there are many who have freezing issues. You should explore some forums to see if this is resolved (it was not a firmware update - canon replaced my camera).
Good luck
@@WillGoodlet thanks for the revert.
Putting on the lens cap is to avoid user from accidentally damage the shutter when they put the camera on its back, pointing directly into the sun.
In DSLR, most of the light will be reflected by the mirror and out through the view finder. In mirroless, if the lens is focusing at infinity, it will focus the sun onto the shutter or sensor, and causing damage.
Makes a lot of sense! Thank you.
@@WillGoodlet Could this be a problem when shooing into the Sun ( Sunrise & Sunset ) with the strong Afrrican Sun?
It's the same for any digital camera - just no long exposures directly at the sun and you CERTAINLY shouldn't look through the viewfinder at a strong sun. I almost always use live view for a rising or setting sun shot with a big lens.
Pieter J de Villiers I think the issue is the shutter is down when powered off to keep dust off the sensor when switching lenses. When the camera is on and you are looking through the lens, the shutter is open and the sensor is exposed to the lens. The sensor is far more stable than the shutter to intense light.
Hi Will,
Recently got a Nikon Z7ii and have been completely out of photography since my F4, in the 1980s, so you can imagine my leaning curve, nevertheless I’ll grit my teeth and comment:-
A. Ever since the release of HDMI 2.1 (that 0.1 being very important) a couple of years ago, it has been clear that multimedia is moving towards 60-120 fps, at 8-10K. The problem is that this roll out been delayed by the Olympics. Therefore I suggest that you see your Canon or my Nikon as temporarily being stuck on this roadmap. Meanwhile the BBC and NHK have used their decades long technical collaboration to finally sort out RDF, nits, a gamut roadmap, etc., which is now allowing (consumer TV) screen manufacturers to effectively turn what photographers call £4,000 -10,000) “Terminals” into cheap consumer TVs. So much for my direct experience but a key issue in buying and camera is where it is on this global roadmap and what firmware updates will follow.
B. I know nothing about Canon but Nikon with the Z6ii (for video) and Z7ii (still) is positioning itself interestingly with this global roadmap. For example, suddenly with the v1.20 firmware, all the issues that you raise about your Canon have perhaps completely disappeared in my Nikon. So will Canon do the same? Does a Nikon have enough in-camera Digital Signal Processing on the Z6ii to fulfil that global roadmap in terms of video, etc? And will the touted Z9 (that won’t be using the sensor from Sony) finally implement that global roadmap to say, 10k at 120 fps (& all the rest) per Formant? If you’ve that camera in your hands, I’d say that you’ll be able to compete with Hollywood (although you’ll need some Zeiss -T and anamorphic. BTW check out anamorphic for wildlife)!
Finally and personally to restate I’m not tribal regarding brands. Because of Covid I accidentally imported “grey” and got a Nikon without any research whatsoever. I then destroyed my Z7ii (a retro lens sucked in so much light that I could write on the LCD on the back of the body & mechanically - an somewhat unusual adapter went rogue and warped the Z mount). Despite this Nikon Europe have behaved well and are fixing it all for free. Something similar happened in the 80s to my F4 in Japan, when I sent it down a stone staircase with a telephoto on. By which I mean to say: please don’t be tribal and take a serious look at Nikon, rather than worry about the precise and hopefully momentary characteristics of your current camera.
Best regards Stephen
Hi Stephen, thanks so much for sharing all this experience, I think a lot of people will be interested in what you've said. Sorry to hear about the damage to your camera, I really hope they can fix it and it doesn't cost too much!
On a side note - one of the reasons I drive 12 year old and 27 year old landys is because the new tech is too hard to fix! I guess that has been the case with cameras for much longer though, and you're very brave if you take a screwdriver to one!
I've never been tribal. In the film era I shot Pentax. I transitioned to Canon in 2013. I shoot Canon because it's cheaper to do so over here. Much bigger second hand market and much easier to sell the gear on.
I've been wanting a high resolution full frame for my 400mm f2.8 for years (waiting for canon to make something similar to the D810/D850) but the only offering was the 5Dsr which had too low a frame rate. The R5 has addressed this very well for me.
Canon replaced my original camera and the new one has not frozen up (thankfully). The freezing was one of the biggest concerns for me. I am still keeping a DSLR too for use on longer sightings I like to be able to use it like a telescope to keep an eye on activity and it's more pleasant to use than mirrorless for that.
I use the R5 for video and mainly for birds and action which typically don't require so much from the battery. All in all it's good and meeting my needs.
@@WillGoodlet Hi Will, thank you for your detailed reply. Somehow I feel like you’ll check out the points that I raised in my original message but haven’t replied to here? At least I hope so!
Somewhere or other I (or you) also mentioned Gestalt (Caravaggio and from him, founded still life) and Rembrandt (for those brown KZ-N colours and shade that covers his eyes, etc). I would therefore suggest that you’re engaged in more than the business of point and shot photography, however wonderfull that is.
Anyway please don’t feel that you need to reply to me. You’re a busy man and I’m a world away. Stephen
Hey will, i have the R5 aswell and i can confirm your experience with the Animal EYE AF and i also have set up the Camera with dual backbutton focus! Funny that Wildlife-photographers around the World think in the same way and come to the same solutions to a problem! You didnt mention it, do you have the function active so that the Eye AF starts with the closest Focuspoint in the EVF you have selected? I noticed that it will improve your "hitrate" with the Eye AF because you can choose where to place it with your joystick (like with DSLR's) and if you press the eye AF backbutton it will pick it up right away!
I'm shooting with a sigma EF 150-600 Sports and can tell you there is no real diffrence between native canon EF and third party lenses at all (i have 70-200 2.8 -with tc- and 24-70 2.8 as well). There are firmware updates for the R5, did you update your camera? Did it solve your Problem with the 400 mm 2.8? I'm very intrested in that because i am about to buy an EF 400 2.8 II !
Thanks for the helpful review! One of the best reviews out there! Greetings from Germany and all the best!
Hi, thanks so much for the helpful info and for watching, it's highly appreciated.
Great to compare notes! Yes that's how I am using it too - but I am still exploring. I don't have the camera at the moment so it will have to wait til it comes back. Glad to hear that the 3rd party lenses are working well too. Someone had a problem with freezing on a Tamron though. The firmware came out just after I packed up my camera so I haven't updated to 1.11 yet. Hopefully Canon will tell me what's wrong when they look at the cam.
Hi! Thanks so much for the video - it's by far the best I've seen on using the R5. I wonder, can you help me solve a problem? For bird photography on my R5, on AF Tab 1 I have set: AF Operation to Servo; AF Method to Face + Tracking; Subject to Animals; Eye Detection to Enable. However, I just cannot figure out the difference between the settings on AF Tab 5 - Initial Servo Point. I have tried all three but just cannot see any difference. What is this all about and does it matter?
Hi David, thanks for watching! AF5 initial AF point is just the selection of the starting point for Servo focus.
You can select different AF points on the camera. If you set it not to be auto it will use the AF point you have previously selected as a starting point to try to achieve focus.
If this point is in the centre you are unlikely to notice a difference but if in the corner, you will note that face tracking and eye af start to look for subjects in that corner as a preference.
Hope this makes sense?
@@WillGoodlet Many thanks. That helps a lot. I rarely move the focus point because I shoot mainly hand-held and prefer the old-school half-press and recompose. That will be why I have failed to notice a difference between the settings. Thanks agin.
Here's a review with more details: willgoodlet.com/blog/canon-eos-r5-wildlife-photography
Definitely a real world 🌎 review from a real wild life photographer. I was looking at that camera 📸 to purchase next but now I’ll just wait for the r1
Hi, Please don't let me put you off the camera, it's a good one. I think you need to try one out first and see if it fits your photography. I know there is a global shortage but hopefully you will be able to try one at some point!
It has revolutionised some parts of my photography but I don't want to pretend that it is perfect. However, most of the time I choose to pick up this camera ahead of my DSLRs. I'm sure the R1 will also be a technical marvel. Happy shooting and thanks for watching.
Good day Will. I have been using the R5 for just over a month. I use LR cc to import and convert my images to the DNG format. I just came across a thread on another site that seem to indicate that there is some sort of Canon r5/r6 vs lightroom color profile issue. Truthfully, I am a little soft with some of the technical stuff. Do you mind me asking what colour profile you use for the R5 when you import into LR? Thank you.
Hi Michael, yeah it’s a problem. I would definitely avoid a conversion to dng because this will bake in the Adobe colour.
Lr supports CR3 so that is better because at least then u can go back if you need to.
To get the best from the files right now, I should use Canon DPP set the camera profile in there, make basic adjustments and bring a copy in the form of a Tif into Lr. I know it’s a pain in the butt but will yield proper canon colours.
Also, I have made a camera matched custom profile that works in Lightroom. I am thinking about sharing this with the community after more testing.
@@WillGoodlet Thank you so much. Going forward, I will import the images from the R5 as cr2 files rather than dng files.
0:27 The hadedas… the most annoying birds in SA 😂
Yep!
hi Will, di you find the answer to the , "keep the lens cap on after you turn the camera off" message?...with a 600mm lens which has no normal cap?..cheers andy
It has a narrow field of view so it’s easier to keep it pointed away from bright lights / sun. But my current method is to throw a jacket over the end. :)
@@WillGoodlet oh...is that a specific canon R5 jacket? :(
Your accent, pronunciation, is so close to the RP they tried to teach us at school in the 1970s, ESL at that. Your speech is like music. And I loved the video with its practical advice. Given the battery life, would an R3 be overkill? We were robbed and need to replace all our equipment, so we start with a blank slate. Kgalagadi, Mokala, Tankwa, Camdeboo - mostly wildlife shots.
So sorry to hear of the robbery. Hope everyone was ok and you haven’t lost too much.
Thanks for watching and the compliment! I think the R5 with its extra pixels is a good option. For battery, using a grip is a useful.
When shooting from the car it’s easy to recharge with an inverter fitted or 12v adapter.
The AF, focus speed and video on the R3 are the main pros. If you have a long lens and don’t need to crop too much it’s really nice but only really becomes a better one than the R5 where your subjects are very active and fast moving. Not that the R5 can’t manage these, it’s very good, just that the R3 will be slightly better (probably more so with older ef lenses too). Not forgetting output - for larger prints the R5 is likely a better choice. Especially if landscapes are also something you photograph.
@@WillGoodlet Living with disability, and no insurance as a result, we lost all our camera eqpt. Whether they took 1 or 10 doesn't matter; they took all we had. Mr Zimmerman did benefit very well.
@@unwoke1652 so sorry to hear this. Our insurance co trebled the cost after too.
For camera equipment- try insurance through compendium brokers they offer an “art insure” policy for photographers underwritten by Hollard. I’ve found them to pay claims well and even to damaged gear.
Awesome work! Do you perhaps have any experience with the R5 and 100-400 mkii pairing. Also please share the list of lenses
Hi there, yes the previous video deals with the 100-400 mk2 and R5. There is a list of lenses supported in the downloadable manual on the canon website
@@WillGoodlet thank you for that will have a look.
I shot compressed raw for a while, until I started noticing jpeg like compression artefacts. It was a few weeks later that I realised these were artefacts of the LrC preview and not the compressed raw canon format (going through a dumb period perhaps). I can't see any substantive difference in the raw, it processing characteristics or the processed image.
Thanks for this very helpful feedback. I think the RAW converters don’t get enough attention in the image pipeline they have a big impact.
@@WillGoodlet You're welcome and I agree. Look at all complaints from people using fuji x-trans sensors. This is what DXO appear to be trying to tap with their PureRaw product, but I don't think many people have realised that their problems may start at that point and I suspect Adobe's poor colour performance on CR3 files starts at that point, given how many subtle difference there are aside from simple colour calibration alone.
Will you be selling the R5 for the R3?
No l, I don’t feel the R3 meets my needs
Another problem:::: In Lightroom the CFEXPRESS cards shows up as a hard disk; ( using Mac) and I cannot download direct to another hard disk like the the SD cards do. Would appreciate another way to get around it. Thanks Will.
Should've got a PC.
Hi, I'm not using CFexpress yet (or a Mac) so I'm not sure what the solution is. But it is strange you can't copy and paste? Did you solve it?
The R6 is less expensive and has flip screen (that is a must have) but only 20 mp. Is it comparable to the R5 in compressed raw?
Hi, I don't have the R6 but I have developed profiles with images donated by others with the camera - from what I can see, it makes very nice files. Less noise and very croppable. I think it's a very good camera.
Thanks for that qick reply...love your chanel. Yea I was looking to step up from crop and almost got a 5d miv but was not liking the fixed screen and worried about heavy low pass filter. Now I really like animal eye and electronic shutter on the R6.
Wow…thanks a million for the in depth review, really well done ….1 have had the same issue with 400 2.8 and converter of lockup…2 no difference in Raw and Craw… 3 battery destroyer as well looking forward to more..appreciate your hard work…
Sounds like you have some real problems with this R5 and I thank you for being so honest about it.
Thanks Freddie - yep I did. Canon replaced the camera and the new one has been very well behaved.
I am not alone in having the ‘freeze’ issue others are also getting it. Not sure what the diagnosis is.
I think also avoid Lexar cards in general with it.
wooow Will dillemas dillemas , maybe Canon didnt expect a seasoned pro to be using the things , pointing out teething problems ? new learning curves ?
I hope to have my replacement camera soon - hope this one works out better. A lot of people with similar complaints. Otherwise, I feel it is an excellent camera.
@@WillGoodlet good lets hope you had a faulty version . i had similar troubles with a d850 . it turned out to be the sd card , slowed everything down . really had my doubts luckily i had a kingston red high speed card . transformed it instantly .. craziest thing . im more learned on the little tykes now , thanks for the great informative videos Will , all the best
Good video, interesting perspectives. Can't teach old dogs new tricks
Thanks for watching and commenting (am I the old dog!? ;) )
@@WillGoodlet I was thinking canon but maybe we all are lol
Good review, Will. I"m still waiting for my R5 but regarding the EVF lag time you described, per DPReview at 12fps you get the "slideshow" you're describing but at the 8fps setting and [Cont.H] High Speed Display turned on you'll get a live view between frames,
Ok thanks for this - looking forward to getting into it again. I haven’t had the camera since this video - just got a replacement a day ago! Look forward to trying this out :)
Colin at colorfidelity sells colour profiles for $15 that come very close to DPP4. My R5 hasn't shipped yet, so I haven't tried the R5 profile myself, but the profiles for my other Canon cameras are very good.
Adobe has confirmed that exposure is off and is working on a fix, so that's one less thing to fix manually.
Thanks, I saw a mention of colorfidelity, looks good. I wanted to have a try at making my own profiles (something to do). Glad to hear that Adobe is working on it!
Thank you for your interesting and sincere testimony. I have R5 and 5Dmk IV and so far will keep both. I didn’t have any problem of freezing with the R5 so far. I found the RF 70-200 less user friendly than the EF 70-200 besides the weight. The zoom ring is indeed very stiff and its rotating range very long compared to the EF version. Another annoying thing with RF lenses is that canon changed the order of rings between them so you constantly need to adjust to find which ring does what when you swap lenses. Otherwise yes R5 and RF lenses are just another world on so many aspects that they are really worth the investment.
Hi, again sorry for the late reply - very interesting to get your feedback on the RF lenses. I'd like to try them but cannot justify the expense currently. I am sure they offer some improvements with regard to Autofocus?
Either way, I am happy with the replacement R5, no freezing touch wood! And delighted with the performance of my EF lenses - I was worried I would have to sell most but they work very well.
Hey Will, as always thanks for yet another excellent video. I too have been toying with the idea of making the move to mirrorless, or at least adding the R5 to my arsenal of options for wildlife photography. At present my main body is a 1Dx Mk ii and a 7D Mkii as the second body and while I'm really happy with the combo I can't help but wonder if it's worth the added expense. So for the moment I'm still undecided but will wait and see how you like it after you've had it for a little longer. Once again thanks for sharing your insights, happy shooting and stay safe..... JC
Hi JC, thanks for watching, I'll certainly do an update in the future (if and when Canon send the camera back!)
Hell you can use an old Nikon FM2n for wildlife, weddings, portraits, landscape amd more.
Its never been about tje equipment its about the person behind the camera. Always was and always will be.