best vid on framing up panels for fencing I've seen. And, I've been searching. About to build my first fence for 2 dogs. Thank you! I feel confident I can do it now.
Just watched 15 videos on making garden fencing. Your process is the best I’ve found. I made the boxes today tomorrow will be the fence. Thanks for posting!
Fence looks awesome! I'm moving to a new house and will have to put in a new fence so this is definitely an option for building it! Very simple! How did you do the gate? That's the only part I'm not sure how I would get that done :/
That's the beauty of it, Tom. VERY simple and cost me less than 400 bucks. I've been getting lots of photos from folks all over the world who gave it a go and did a fantastic job with it. Only takes very basic skills. You should see one that was built be a mother of 4! Totally awesome.
We used this tutorial recently to enclose a raised bed garden in our backyard. We also made the following modifications.... 1.) We didn't need a very high fence so we bought 4' welded wire fencing and framed with with a 3' tall opening. The extra almost 12" we let extend from the bottom of the frame. After installing the fence panel we then trenched directly below the panel and inserted the extra fencing. This reassured us that nothing would tunnel underneath our fence. It also allowed us to not have the bottom of the fence panels touching the ground - which should make them last longer. 2.) We used rounded staples to secure the welded wire fencing to the boards to ensure the wire stays tights for years to come. We also used a black vinyl coated welded wire for esthetics and to avoid rust issues. 2.) We also added a 'chicken run' attached to the inside of the fence's perimeter. This gives us a secure area for chickens to inhabit and they also eat invasive bugs and grasses/weeds that would otherwise invade the garden. 3.) We also added a horizontal board to the top of each fence panel - for esthetics and to keep water from getting between the boards and rusting out our staples we used to keep the welded wire fence tight to the panels. Very happy with the results and we've been getting lots of complements. Thanks for the tutorial.
Why not do like farmers do and just run the fencing on the outside of the 4x4's and finish off the posts with 1x's ? If you want the finished look if not just wrap it around the 4x4's .
Thank you for creating this video! I was looking for fence ideas and this one was not only easy to build but looks great. Thank you so much, Matt from Massachusetts
Can anyone recommend a video that shows a lower budget garden fence? This a great design and clear instructions, but I don't have a nice saw, and that much money for lumber. thanks
Our bunnies have no problem flying through the 2” wire fencing. This year we are solving it with .22 caliber lead but next year we will be installing 1/2” hardware cloth on lower 1.5’.
Just curious why you added the vertical boards (along side the posts) rather than just nailing the fencing to the inside of the posts and only having the horizontal boards for the top and bottom nailing points for the fence. Aesthetics only, or is the structure better w/ the fully framed box inside the posts?
Hi Mike- thanks for the video! M My garden will be about the same size as yours but it slopes slightly downhill. I want to cement in the corner posts and gate posts like yours, but I'm apprehensive as I'll probably have to slightly bury one side of the fence to be level. Won't the concrete on the post prevent me from doing this? If I can cement them in, how many 50 lb bags per post hole?
One of the best videos I've seen on building a simple but effective garden fence. I'm presently using this method to construct a 5' fence around my own garden (30 x 25 foot rectangular area), which seems to be the favorite grazing area for several deer in our area. My yard has a slight slope (about 8 inches over a 30 foot run), so I've modified this concept slightly. Rather than step each section down to accommodate the slope, I built the frame sections 4-1/2 feet tall versus the full 5 feet tall, with the extra fence wire protruding below the bottom of each frame. I then dig a shallow trench between the 4x4 posts and bury the protruding wire. This keeps the fence sections horizontally level the length of each run, plus eliminates any gap below the bottom frame member due to the slope.
James, thanks for the questions. This may help others. First, be sure to have the fence facing downward so that it;'s natural tendency is to curl towards the ground. Place a board across both ends and place a heavy object on top of each board. Do this while preparing the rest of the boards. You can use spring clamps to hold the first 2 1x4's. Work down the sides first, then do the bottom last. It'll be easier to keep tension. 2 sheets of plywood would also flatten fence, (fence sandwich)
This is what my mother wants us to build for our future vegetable garden. I was thinking of just using cattle fencing that we have lying around that we used to close off apart of our back yard, and then lining it with chicken wire or that same metal paneling you’re using. Also looked at the garden fence video and I think it helped me solve the problem about a gate. Great video thanks. Will share with my mother.
Correct, all corners and posts are cemented only. It's just an alternate overlap. Look close and you can see how the top boards overlap the bottom joints. As long as you have all the boards cut to the right dimensions it'll come together.
A question about the fencing section. When you fasten it to the boards, how are the boards secured? Is it with the screws? If so, what size? I'm going to fence in a 30 foot by 30 foot section for a garden and this is the best looking one I've seen. Could you give a quick step by step list or list the supplies for it all (screws included?) thanks. I really appreciate it.
I toe-nailed the boards using #6 galvanized nails. I know some folks aren't comfortable with using nails, but I've been building for over 30 years and don't have a problem with splitting when using this technique. Has to be the correct angle.
The wife wants me to build an enclosure for her geese. I love this design - appears to be very easy but sturdy and effective. A couple of (dumb) questions: 1) What is the best way to hold the initial four 1x4's together prior to "sandwiching" the wire fencing? 2) Is there a trick to tensioning the wire fencing prior to "sandwiching"? Thanks in advance!
@njitgrad 3' deep with crushed gravel will work fine. And you're correct, it does in fact do a better job with moisture. Not really a fact with treated lumber as it last for years, either way. Just be sure to put the gravel in slowly and evenly as you go. Otherwise, you'll push the post to one side with the weight of the stones.
Thanks for this system you designed. Your instructions for each step are clear. I have learned the meaning of plumb and square by watching your explanation. We are preparing the structure in the autumn and hope to have it ready by next spring!
Great video, it was easy to understand. We have just put this fence around our raised vegetable beds to keep the chickens out and it looks great - thanks!
I'm actually about to break ground on a fence of my own today. Following a similar pattern and believe I'm going to adopt your 1x4-wire-sandwich concept. Great look and structurally sound. I agree that 1x4 is less likely to warp than the 2x4 (not to mention much less bulky). Like at least one other commenter, I'm uneasy about toe-nailing. Seen this lead to cracks. Planning to try using a Kreg Jig and screws to secure the 1x4's into the 4x4s. Should be very secure. Just worried about excessive penetration of the wood. This'll be my first fence project... and it's not the type of thing I'll have time to do again anytime soon. Going to evaluate brackets, but am doubting they'll be the correct width, and may also be too much of an eye-sore for the Mrs...
Swivelgate, great tip. There are a few things that can be done to improve, no question, but it 's simple and most folks can tackle it. I do like the idea of screws.
Yes, the "new" pressure treated wood is safe for use for raised garden frames... with a few precautions! Up until 2003, the most common preservative used for pressure treated wood was chromated copper arsenate (CCA), a compound using arsenic as its primary rot protection. Even the arsenic uproar was overblown. Bottom line: the new treated wood is ok unless you are trying to maintain the rediculously stringent organic standard.
I love this fence design...looks nice and is simple enough for me to do (I think!). But I would need a taller fence because of deer problems. Would this same design work with a taller fence...perhaps adding another board in the center horizontally for stabilization?
So, did it work...meaning, did it keep the critters out? Also, do you have any suggestions about installing a fence such as this in a space where the ground isn't level? My garden is in a slight hill...I don't want critters crawling under the fence.
2”x4” won’t even slow down a rabbit let alone a ground hog. Chicken wire added to the bottom couple of feet and bury 6 or 8 inches in the ground would help
Michael…Thanks for the ideas. I used your plan and I’m in the middle of building my fence. I’m a “weekend warrior” and I always make some mistakes…but it’s looking good. I did use some joist brackets to help me. I posted a response video. Please provide any suggestions.
Question....we are all aware that the chemicals in Pressure Treated Lumber can leech into the food that is planted near them. Is it ok to use PT wood like you did here? Do you know how close you can get to the PT material before the food becomes contaminated? I cannot bare to build this system without PT...it won't last more than a little over a YEAR!!! What type of fencing is that?
Great design. I decided to use this frame type for my chicken yard fence. But I'm using round 4" posts for the main uprights. It looks great so far thank you.
Nice my son built this fence for me. Looks great ! Any suggestion's on gates ? Think we will match the fence. However will it be to heavy. Also maybe would like to use 1x4 instead. Thoughts ? Putting Light caps on the 4x4's too. Thx for your design for fence looks great !
Great video, couple of questions. It appear you didn't staple the wire to the 1 x 4 before you sandwiched it, right? I was going to staple (pnuematic) the wire on before sandwiching but after watching this, I don't think I waste my time. The staple would probably rust out anyway. What length/type of screws did you use? Also, did you make a gate? Do you have a video of that process? Thanks for the great video!
Unfortunately you really can't buy all that much quality produce for 400 bucks any more. But I suppose one could choose to spend it on alot of things. It's about a trip-and-a-half for a family to visit a ballpark or a steak dinner with friends...for me, it's well worth the years of joy owning a garden! And the kids love picking their own veggies- worth every penny. Don't hurt your thumbs with the remote now.
Depends on the critters. Moles will tunnel under anything so your best bet with those fellows is to simple kill their food! Grubs and other bugs. Othewise you have acouple options: Bury a 4x4 under the footprint of your fence all the way around and let the fence butt right up to it on the bottom. Or, simply bury a wire or heavy plastic mesh underneath the fence all the way around. Just dig a narrow trench with a pick and slide the mesh in and bury. Should work. Let me know how you do.
The bottom layer of boards is not fastened in any way. It just lays flat on the ground and the top course holds it together. Just be sure the joints are snug when overlapping courses.
Thanks for this video, Michael! Quick question: could squirrels fit through that fencing? I assume it's 2"X3", right? (I'm planning on installing a roof on mine in an attempt to make it squirrel proof, and I'm looking for fencing that squirrels can't squeeze through.)
My pleasure. Never thought so many folks would like this. Glad I decided to film that day! And yes, it is nice to have my kids around to help. They're all hard workers.
Toe-nailing is the strongest part of any framing job. Inspectors will flag no toe-nails every time. Straight nailing isn't worth a darn. Toe-nailing is the first thing we teach and should be mastered by any craftsman. Just choose the correct nail size.
I’ve also bought a bunch of instructions, plans and tutorials online. If you’re just starting out get Woody Hyezmar’s Woodworking Bible before he starts selling it!
That was a very nice fence and you were very well spoken when explaining the steps, that makes it so much easier for me to understand and perhaps today I'll check if I have enough wood in my backyard to create such a great project, THANKS!
@aerodude08 Cost was a couple hundred bucks. I have a video on how to make a gate already posted. How to make a simple garden gate by michael bronco. Should be on my channel.
Ah, the door. Yes, check out my channel and you'll find a garden gate video there. It's basically the same as the panels with a few adjustments. Be sure to use strong hinges. If there's one place not to cut corners, it's on the hinges.
@ds3mml3r I just looked again and see why it may be confusing. The bottom course just lays flat on the ground and is not held together. I appears as though it may be but I just laid it out under the fence.
@njitgrad No worries. Yes, 8' posts. Just put a level to it once the concrete is poured. They'll stay level if you don't hit them before the cement dries. Get the post setting kind and all you have to do is add water. The dirt around the middle posts will be ample to keep the middle posts from moving. You can fill with stone if concerned. That'll do the trick.
Hello, I'm glad you like the video. I honestly don't remember how much it cost to build but I'm sure it was well under $1000. Probably close to $500. I have a video on the gate I uses, and over 100 others on my channels. I have two that you might find useful, Just check out Michael Bronco or manschoolprogram on youtube and you'll see the channels, I try my best to do at least one video per week,
Hi Michael Great video. One thought though. Should you make all four corners overlap for a stronger sandwich? By that I mean that you would have no full length cross members (top or bottom). All four horizontal boards would be the gap between the posts less the 3.5 inches for the vertical board width. Does that make sense? Thanks
Thanks for the question. I think we're on the same page. All four corners do in fact overlap to make a stronger frame. You'll notice if you look closely.
Outstanding video, when it clicked what you were doing with the boards, I understand and I’m going to do this at my house. And level too? Nice work a true craftsman.
expeeeeeeensive.... Looks nice though. Electric fence on any cheap poles, posts, stakes with insulators will be cheap and take you a couple hours tops to setup. That's a carpentry project.
@ExoticCarzRock Hello, I have a video showing a garden gate to go with the fence. Just check out my channel and you'll see it. Let me know if your have trouble. I'd send the link if I knew how to do that! Good luck, MB
@zareckymr If you use 1-5/8 you'll be perfectly fine. There will be about an 1/8 inch gap in between boards from the fence material that will prevent the screw from coming out the back. If the 1x4's were sandwiched flat then it would be a different story. FYI I found 1-1/4 galvanized at a hardware but to be honest the 1-5/8 will work better.
kinda overkill is it? and with a cordless drill the fastening would be much stronger and more precise.. For the sq footage of usable soil impaired by raised beds the cost outweighs the product doesn't it? lastly rabbits dig.. its what they do... also skunks dig... gophers did.. moles voles .. and then there's b i r d s ....
Yes, just think of it as overlapping joints. Two boards on top and two on bottom. A short one and a long one for each. Same for the sides. Just follow the video exactly and don't over think....it'll come together. Good luck and let me know how you make out.
jagarito, I just use a good old fashioned level. Simple as that. If you use stones around the post just be sure to pack it nice and tight and check level as you go. For concrete just be sure to not mix too wet or the post could move.
Yes, you are correct. The other two lines are to mark the distance only. Take a good look at that section of the video and make sure you understand how it works before you go ahead and cut. I used two-times the thickness of the board to mark my cut. It can be done with measurements also but this is just easier.
@njitgrad Nope. Actually it's the ones in concrete that rot the quickest. But if you use pressure treated lumber (you should) they'll last for at least 15 years (more if they're not set in concrete. Masonry holds moisture which is why wood rots quicker if it is set in concrete. I wouldn't worry though. Like I said, just use treated lumber.
@njitgrad Folks seem to like that stuff but I never did. I like to get regular old concrete - mix it up in a wheel barrel and put it in a little at a time. I think if you use the kind you're talking about you might have to brace the posts before pouring the water in. Just drive some 2x2 pegs in the ground and then run some 1x4's on an angle from the post to the pegs. that'll keep them from moving.
I know this is old but how do you keep the fencing tight and not sagging. I made a nice frame but the fencing wasn't tight enough. Also, what size screws do you use??
Great video. I used this idea to make doors for the hoop house I built for my ducks. The doors turned out great. I used 1x4 for the frame and 1/4" hardware cloth for the "screen". My wife loves how it looks and even my neighbors came over and complimented the doors. On a side note, I'm currently reading Man School on the kindle and I wanted to let you know it's wonderful. I can hear my grandfather when I read it. Thank You
@njitgrad Hi, I spaced mine 8' apart. Your best bet is to set your corners first then divide the space in between. Just run a string from corner to corner to line up the holes. Don't space more than 8' but less is fine. Concrete the corners but not the middle posts. If you have a drainage issue put about 4" of stone at bottom of holes. I went 3' deep on posts.
Hi, if you go to my channel you'll see a video on the gate, If you can't use concrete, I'd just set deep in gravel. That should do the trick. Screwing into the border won't work, as the movement of the gate will work it loose in time. A bag of fast setting concrete would be best, but the gravel will also work, I'm sure,
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woodprix has very useful plans with all details I need
Do have a list if the materials required and step-by-step instructions?
best vid on framing up panels for fencing I've seen. And, I've been searching. About to build my first fence for 2 dogs. Thank you! I feel confident I can do it now.
Woodprix is nice for that.
Awesome tip
Just watched 15 videos on making garden fencing. Your process is the best I’ve found. I made the boxes today tomorrow will be the fence. Thanks for posting!
amazing! I'm going to follow your technique for building a fence yard for my dogs
Would make a great dog enclosure. Very solid, attractive, and most importantly, dog won't feel confined. Good luck with it.
When you get a chance, would you kindly make a video about how to make a gate in a welded wire fence?
Awesome video!!! Here I am 10 years after it was made and it still works just a great!! Thanks
Fence looks awesome! I'm moving to a new house and will have to put in a new fence so this is definitely an option for building it! Very simple! How did you do the gate? That's the only part I'm not sure how I would get that done :/
That's the beauty of it, Tom. VERY simple and cost me less than 400 bucks. I've been getting lots of photos from folks all over the world who gave it a go and did a fantastic job with it. Only takes very basic skills. You should see one that was built be a mother of 4! Totally awesome.
If they got a pencil behind their ear, They know what they're doing. Construction 101
This is great. I was looking for an alternative to a hog wire fence with dado grooves and this looks just as good and easier. Thanks!
We used this tutorial recently to enclose a raised bed garden in our backyard. We also made the following modifications....
1.) We didn't need a very high fence so we bought 4' welded wire fencing and framed with with a 3' tall opening. The extra almost 12" we let extend from the bottom of the frame. After installing the fence panel we then trenched directly below the panel and inserted the extra fencing. This reassured us that nothing would tunnel underneath our fence. It also allowed us to not have the bottom of the fence panels touching the ground - which should make them last longer.
2.) We used rounded staples to secure the welded wire fencing to the boards to ensure the wire stays tights for years to come. We also used a black vinyl coated welded wire for esthetics and to avoid rust issues.
2.) We also added a 'chicken run' attached to the inside of the fence's perimeter. This gives us a secure area for chickens to inhabit and they also eat invasive bugs and grasses/weeds that would otherwise invade the garden.
3.) We also added a horizontal board to the top of each fence panel - for esthetics and to keep water from getting between the boards and rusting out our staples we used to keep the welded wire fence tight to the panels.
Very happy with the results and we've been getting lots of complements. Thanks for the tutorial.
Can you share a photo. I was thinking the same concept with 3' and the last 12" in trenches. How did you build your door?
@@SPowerswas about2reply the same thing😊..Pic plz
Likewise! I have chickens and this sounds like a perfect setup. Thank you!
The actual name that is given this style of fence is Hogwire or Trellis....Very nice job sir.
Why not do like farmers do and just run the fencing on the outside of the 4x4's and finish off the posts with 1x's ? If you want the finished look if not just wrap it around the 4x4's .
Thank you for creating this video! I was looking for fence ideas and this one was not only easy to build but looks great. Thank you so much, Matt from Massachusetts
Can anyone recommend a video that shows a lower budget garden fence? This a great design and clear instructions, but I don't have a nice saw, and that much money for lumber. thanks
Our bunnies have no problem flying through the 2” wire fencing. This year we are solving it with .22 caliber lead but next year we will be installing 1/2” hardware cloth on lower 1.5’.
Is there any way to make the panels easily removable? Maybe slide them into galvanized fence brackets or something?
Really enjoy it. Let's check woodprix plans also.
Just curious why you added the vertical boards (along side the posts) rather than just nailing the fencing to the inside of the posts and only having the horizontal boards for the top and bottom nailing points for the fence. Aesthetics only, or is the structure better w/ the fully framed box inside the posts?
Coz he need a longer nail I think!
Hi. I count 8 lengths, but the video says 4 vertical and 2 horizontal boards, for 6. What did I miss?
Hi Mike- thanks for the video! M
My garden will be about the same size as yours but it slopes slightly downhill. I want to cement in the corner posts and gate posts like yours, but I'm apprehensive as I'll probably have to slightly bury one side of the fence to be level. Won't the concrete on the post prevent me from doing this?
If I can cement them in, how many 50 lb bags per post hole?
One of the best videos I've seen on building a simple but effective garden fence. I'm presently using this method to construct a 5' fence around my own garden (30 x 25 foot rectangular area), which seems to be the favorite grazing area for several deer in our area. My yard has a slight slope (about 8 inches over a 30 foot run), so I've modified this concept slightly. Rather than step each section down to accommodate the slope, I built the frame sections 4-1/2 feet tall versus the full 5 feet tall, with the extra fence wire protruding below the bottom of each frame. I then dig a shallow trench between the 4x4 posts and bury the protruding wire. This keeps the fence sections horizontally level the length of each run, plus eliminates any gap below the bottom frame member due to the slope.
I'm going to build this in the summer to keep my fat greedy aunt out of my vegetables.
I'm so angry I didn't see this video sooner. Our fence is not tall enough and the dogs are jumping it. Good job.
James, thanks for the questions. This may help others. First, be sure to have the fence facing downward so that it;'s natural tendency is to curl towards the ground. Place a board across both ends and place a heavy object on top of each board. Do this while preparing the rest of the boards. You can use spring clamps to hold the first 2 1x4's. Work down the sides first, then do the bottom last. It'll be easier to keep tension. 2 sheets of plywood would also flatten fence, (fence sandwich)
Can you tell me approximately how much the wood cost for this project? Looks great!
This is what my mother wants us to build for our future vegetable garden. I was thinking of just using cattle fencing that we have lying around that we used to close off apart of our back yard, and then lining it with chicken wire or that same metal paneling you’re using. Also looked at the garden fence video and I think it helped me solve the problem about a gate. Great video thanks. Will share with my mother.
Correct, all corners and posts are cemented only. It's just an alternate overlap. Look close and you can see how the top boards overlap the bottom joints. As long as you have all the boards cut to the right dimensions it'll come together.
What is the gauge (strength) of the fencing and will it survive snow and ice build up through the winter or will it get bent?
It took me a minute to figure out how you got the sides to stay together but what a fantastic way to do this. Great job
beautiful. wondering what to use since price of lumber is 40% up right now.
Lumber is up 400% right now. I wish it was 40. Honestly, I don't know what to recommend. I've put off all projects for now.
A question about the fencing section. When you fasten it to the boards, how are the boards secured? Is it with the screws? If so, what size? I'm going to fence in a 30 foot by 30 foot section for a garden and this is the best looking one I've seen. Could you give a quick step by step list or list the supplies for it all (screws included?) thanks. I really appreciate it.
I toe-nailed the boards using #6 galvanized nails. I know some folks aren't comfortable with using nails, but I've been building for over 30 years and don't have a problem with splitting when using this technique. Has to be the correct angle.
The wife wants me to build an enclosure for her geese. I love this design - appears to be very easy but sturdy and effective. A couple of (dumb) questions:
1) What is the best way to hold the initial four 1x4's together prior to "sandwiching" the wire fencing?
2) Is there a trick to tensioning the wire fencing prior to "sandwiching"?
Thanks in advance!
Thank you Michael! I am building a fence to secure my vegetable garden from the rabbits. Your video is very helpful.
@njitgrad 3' deep with crushed gravel will work fine. And you're correct, it does in fact do a better job with moisture. Not really a fact with treated lumber as it last for years, either way. Just be sure to put the gravel in slowly and evenly as you go. Otherwise, you'll push the post to one side with the weight of the stones.
Thanks for this system you designed. Your instructions for each step are clear. I have learned the meaning of plumb and square by watching your explanation. We are preparing the structure in the autumn and hope to have it ready by next spring!
Great video, it was easy to understand. We have just put this fence around our raised vegetable beds to keep the chickens out and it looks great - thanks!
I'm actually about to break ground on a fence of my own today. Following a similar pattern and believe I'm going to adopt your 1x4-wire-sandwich concept. Great look and structurally sound. I agree that 1x4 is less likely to warp than the 2x4 (not to mention much less bulky). Like at least one other commenter, I'm uneasy about toe-nailing. Seen this lead to cracks. Planning to try using a Kreg Jig and screws to secure the 1x4's into the 4x4s. Should be very secure. Just worried about excessive penetration of the wood. This'll be my first fence project... and it's not the type of thing I'll have time to do again anytime soon. Going to evaluate brackets, but am doubting they'll be the correct width, and may also be too much of an eye-sore for the Mrs...
This is awesome!!! Just what I've been looking for in a one man/woman building project.Thanks so much for this!!! :)
Swivelgate, great tip. There are a few things that can be done to improve, no question, but it 's simple and most folks can tackle it. I do like the idea of screws.
I’m building for this exact fence with your plans. I love it. Thanks for the video.
Yes, the "new" pressure treated wood is safe for use for raised garden frames... with a few precautions! Up until 2003, the most common preservative used for pressure treated wood was chromated copper arsenate (CCA), a compound using arsenic as its primary rot protection. Even the arsenic uproar was overblown. Bottom line: the new treated wood is ok unless you are trying to maintain the rediculously stringent organic standard.
I love this fence design...looks nice and is simple enough for me to do (I think!). But I would need a taller fence because of deer problems. Would this same design work with a taller fence...perhaps adding another board in the center horizontally for stabilization?
So, did it work...meaning, did it keep the critters out? Also, do you have any suggestions about installing a fence such as this in a space where the ground isn't level? My garden is in a slight hill...I don't want critters crawling under the fence.
2”x4” won’t even slow down a rabbit let alone a ground hog. Chicken wire added to the bottom couple of feet and bury 6 or 8 inches in the ground would help
Michael…Thanks for the ideas. I used your plan and I’m in the middle of building my fence. I’m a “weekend warrior” and I always make some mistakes…but it’s looking good. I did use some joist brackets to help me. I posted a response video. Please provide any suggestions.
I realize this was a literal decade ago, but great video!
What did you do for entrance? Do you have another video showing how you built a gate door?
Hello! What’s holding the boards of the first half of the fence together while you’re laying down the wiring? Thanks!!
Back when wood was reasonably priced
Yeah, crazy now. Not sure it’ll ever come down unless people stop building.
Great video! I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up with a "'Nailed It' Meme" though bc it's looks so simple... 😝 Thanks for posting!
Would be much easier and stronger if you used screws.
I thought the same. Instead of toe nailing, use pocket holes.
Question....we are all aware that the chemicals in Pressure Treated Lumber can leech into the food that is planted near them. Is it ok to use PT wood like you did here? Do you know how close you can get to the PT material before the food becomes contaminated? I cannot bare to build this system without PT...it won't last more than a little over a YEAR!!! What type of fencing is that?
+Mark Price not a good idea to use poison treated wood..use larch-tamarack if you can find it or cedar?
in this world w live in the least u have to worry about . fueling the car breathing those chemicals much more dangerous
The chemicals used in pressure treated wood changed nearly 20 years ago. No need to worry unless you are an organic freak.
Couldn't critters get under that fence?
Sure can. You can dig a foot deep and put a row of wire then bury it. Or, just drop the fence panel into the ground.
Great design. I decided to use this frame type for my chicken yard fence. But I'm using round 4" posts for the main uprights. It looks great so far thank you.
Enjoy woodprix woodworking instructions.
Instead of nails, why not use long screw. That way if you need to take a panel out, just unscrew it. Nice Job.
Nice my son built this fence for me. Looks great ! Any suggestion's on gates ? Think we will match the fence. However will it be to heavy. Also maybe would like to use 1x4 instead. Thoughts ? Putting Light caps on the 4x4's too. Thx for your design for fence looks great !
Great video, couple of questions. It appear you didn't staple the wire to the 1 x 4 before you sandwiched it, right? I was going to staple (pnuematic) the wire on before sandwiching but after watching this, I don't think I waste my time. The staple would probably rust out anyway. What length/type of screws did you use? Also, did you make a gate? Do you have a video of that process? Thanks for the great video!
Unfortunately you really can't buy all that much quality produce for 400 bucks any more. But I suppose one could choose to spend it on alot of things. It's about a trip-and-a-half for a family to visit a ballpark or a steak dinner with friends...for me, it's well worth the years of joy owning a garden! And the kids love picking their own veggies- worth every penny. Don't hurt your thumbs with the remote now.
Depends on the critters. Moles will tunnel under anything so your best bet with those fellows is to simple kill their food! Grubs and other bugs. Othewise you have acouple options: Bury a 4x4 under the footprint of your fence all the way around and let the fence butt right up to it on the bottom. Or, simply bury a wire or heavy plastic mesh underneath the fence all the way around. Just dig a narrow trench with a pick and slide the mesh in and bury. Should work. Let me know how you do.
A simple fence 4x4 sunk in concrete. Nothing simple about that!
The bottom layer of boards is not fastened in any way. It just lays flat on the ground and the top course holds it together. Just be sure the joints are snug when overlapping courses.
Thanks for this video, Michael! Quick question: could squirrels fit through that fencing? I assume it's 2"X3", right? (I'm planning on installing a roof on mine in an attempt to make it squirrel proof, and I'm looking for fencing that squirrels can't squeeze through.)
Thank you for your post. Hopefully I can have a garden soon. Nice to see your kids helping you.
My pleasure. Never thought so many folks would like this. Glad I decided to film that day! And yes, it is nice to have my kids around to help. They're all hard workers.
Toe-nailing is the strongest part of any framing job. Inspectors will flag no toe-nails every time. Straight nailing isn't worth a darn. Toe-nailing is the first thing we teach and should be mastered by any craftsman. Just choose the correct nail size.
awesome fence - now if I were not so useless when it comes to working with wood. What State are ya in?
I’ve also bought a bunch of instructions, plans and tutorials online. If you’re just starting out get Woody Hyezmar’s Woodworking Bible before he starts selling it!
Great video. What would you say is the recommended spacing between the posts?
That was a very nice fence and you were very well spoken when explaining the steps, that makes it so much easier for me to understand and perhaps today I'll check if I have enough wood in my backyard to create such a great project, THANKS!
I like the concept but you didn't explain the measurements well in my humble opinion. Slow down and explain in more detail Don
Excellent video. Did you run a horizontal 2 X 4 of 1X at the very top of the 4 X 4 posts to keep deer out? Thanks for sharing.
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@aerodude08 Cost was a couple hundred bucks. I have a video on how to make a gate already posted. How to make a simple garden gate by michael bronco. Should be on my channel.
Ah, the door. Yes, check out my channel and you'll find a garden gate video there. It's basically the same as the panels with a few adjustments. Be sure to use strong hinges. If there's one place not to cut corners, it's on the hinges.
@ds3mml3r I just looked again and see why it may be confusing. The bottom course just lays flat on the ground and is not held together. I appears as though it may be but I just laid it out under the fence.
@njitgrad No worries. Yes, 8' posts. Just put a level to it once the concrete is poured. They'll stay level if you don't hit them before the cement dries. Get the post setting kind and all you have to do is add water. The dirt around the middle posts will be ample to keep the middle posts from moving. You can fill with stone if concerned. That'll do the trick.
We are making this fence right now. It’s going exceptionally well!!!! Thank you!
That’s fantastic! Glad it’s helping you out.
Hello, I'm glad you like the video. I honestly don't remember how much it cost to build but I'm sure it was well under $1000. Probably close to $500. I have a video on the gate I uses, and over 100 others on my channels. I have two that you might find useful, Just check out Michael Bronco or manschoolprogram on youtube and you'll see the channels, I try my best to do at least one video per week,
Hi Michael
Great video. One thought though. Should you make all four corners overlap for a stronger sandwich? By that I mean that you would have no full length cross members (top or bottom). All four horizontal boards would be the gap between the posts less the 3.5 inches for the vertical board width. Does that make sense?
Thanks
Thanks for the question. I think we're on the same page. All four corners do in fact overlap to make a stronger frame. You'll notice if you look closely.
was this fence tall enough to keep deer from jumping in? I think they jump pretty high.
Outstanding video, when it clicked what you were doing with the boards, I understand and I’m going to do this at my house. And level too? Nice work a true craftsman.
I happened upon this video on this day April 6, 2021. Eleven years after the release. Thanks for the idea, I will be building something similar.
expeeeeeeensive.... Looks nice though. Electric fence on any cheap poles, posts, stakes with insulators will be cheap and take you a couple hours tops to setup. That's a carpentry project.
@ExoticCarzRock Hello, I have a video showing a garden gate to go with the fence. Just check out my channel and you'll see it. Let me know if your have trouble. I'd send the link if I knew how to do that!
Good luck, MB
@zareckymr If you use 1-5/8 you'll be perfectly fine. There will be about an 1/8 inch gap in between boards from the fence material that will prevent the screw from coming out the back. If the 1x4's were sandwiched flat then it would be a different story. FYI I found 1-1/4 galvanized at a hardware but to be honest the 1-5/8 will work better.
kinda overkill is it? and with a cordless drill the fastening would be much stronger and more precise.. For the sq footage of usable soil impaired by raised beds the cost outweighs the product doesn't it? lastly rabbits dig.. its what they do... also skunks dig... gophers did.. moles voles .. and then there's b i r d s ....
But he says cut 2 long boards and 4 short boards. You need 8 boards to complete it???? What am I Missing?/
Yes, just think of it as overlapping joints. Two boards on top and two on bottom. A short one and a long one for each. Same for the sides. Just follow the video exactly and don't over think....it'll come together. Good luck and let me know how you make out.
jagarito, I just use a good old fashioned level. Simple as that. If you use stones around the post just be sure to pack it nice and tight and check level as you go. For concrete just be sure to not mix too wet or the post could move.
Yes, you are correct. The other two lines are to mark the distance only. Take a good look at that section of the video and make sure you understand how it works before you go ahead and cut. I used two-times the thickness of the board to mark my cut. It can be done with measurements also but this is just easier.
@njitgrad Nope. Actually it's the ones in concrete that rot the quickest. But if you use pressure treated lumber (you should) they'll last for at least 15 years (more if they're not set in concrete. Masonry holds moisture which is why wood rots quicker if it is set in concrete. I wouldn't worry though. Like I said, just use treated lumber.
@njitgrad Folks seem to like that stuff but I never did. I like to get regular old concrete - mix it up in a wheel barrel and put it in a little at a time. I think if you use the kind you're talking about you might have to brace the posts before pouring the water in. Just drive some 2x2 pegs in the ground and then run some 1x4's on an angle from the post to the pegs. that'll keep them from moving.
I know this is old but how do you keep the fencing tight and not sagging. I made a nice frame but the fencing wasn't tight enough. Also, what size screws do you use??
Great video. I used this idea to make doors for the hoop house I built for my ducks. The doors turned out great. I used 1x4 for the frame and 1/4" hardware cloth for the "screen". My wife loves how it looks and even my neighbors came over and complimented the doors.
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@njitgrad Hi, I spaced mine 8' apart. Your best bet is to set your corners first then divide the space in between. Just run a string from corner to corner to line up the holes. Don't space more than 8' but less is fine. Concrete the corners but not the middle posts. If you have a drainage issue put about 4" of stone at bottom of holes. I went 3' deep on posts.
Hi, if you go to my channel you'll see a video on the gate, If you can't use concrete, I'd just set deep in gravel. That should do the trick. Screwing into the border won't work, as the movement of the gate will work it loose in time. A bag of fast setting concrete would be best, but the gravel will also work, I'm sure,
@zareckymr I used1.5 inch screws ...if you need to go longer don't worry if they come through the other side a bit. Just file the sharp points down.
@njitgrad Nothing. They should stay put of the concrete was mixed properly. Shouldn't be too wet.