1 Year Since I Ditched the Systainer's - DeWalt Tough System - Joiners Review and Upgrades
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- My review of the DeWalt ToughSystem 2.0 Drawer boxes 1 year on. Ive 10 of these boxes and have used them exclusively for a year. I bought and paid for them myself and this is my honest review since upgrading from systainers.
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I need inserts please!!
Great review and great ideas for setting-up and making the Dewalt Tough System 2.0 tool boxes even better.
Your download folder has 5 files. Which file is the Anti-wobble insert?
Thank you!
The top handle mod is brilliant, the custom dual-box dolly is BRILLIANT, and the anti-wobble spacers are BRILLIANT!!! Cracking video for TS2.0 owners!!!!
Thank you mate. The files for printing the inserts are on my website if that helps as well.
The anti wobble inserts are interesting. On your back-to-back castored site work table, if your insert-making-friend made a kitchen worktop style insert, mechanically linking both front and back stack, then they (the linking inserts) would add the entire mass of the ‘back stack’ to any overturning moment on the ‘front stack when the highest drawer is open.
Given that the dual stack is on castors, and easily rotated for access, that seems to me to meet the relatively small footprint, with no tippyness, criteria for a taller (back to back) stack, that might work on some sites.
Your creativity shows is the way you have organized the drawers. I can only imagine the work you do. I’m sure it is amazing.
I don't know how I've not come across the DeWalt drawers before. I've been eagerly awaiting the release of the toughbuilt system in the UK. Drawers are so much more convenient than boxes.
They are amazing for how I use them. At times a box would be better, rough ground etc, but this morek amazing for interior fine finish stuff
News: the new DeWalt ToughSystem DXL is a 2x wider shop drawer that fits 2 normal TS2.0 boxes on top, just like you have rigged up here on the dolly! Super cool! You were really onto something!!!
yeah i saw the new drawers pop up on instagram, would be amazing for shopfitting/big spaces! these smaller ones are about the limit for my type of work in houses etc, good to see the wheeled bas, may have to look into that one!!!
Great looking setup still after a year! Echoing what you said about the ToughSystem, it's one of the better toolboxes you can get. The upgrade over the original Toughsystem side latches are so much better. That quick attach/release is far better than that little plastic latch they used to have. Great video!
This is brilliant! Satisfies the super organised nerd in me
My usual tool totes are organised about once a month but usually everything just gets thrown in at the end of a day which means the following day it's a nightmare!
I will be doing exactly what you have and it's a double bonus when you clip on a piece of ply to make a bench!
Those little things to stop the wobble are perfect!
Good choice on the drawer units. Wish I had seen your video before I invested in the small tool boxes, and bin boxes. I ended up with something with all the issues of the systainers. I cut foam for the tools in the bottom of the boxes, and then made plywood trays with lifting straps above them, to put the accessories for the tool in. But the drawers seem to be a better solution.
I got those little plastic clips, and now I can stack those boxes as high as I want them and no wabbles. I found them at Etsy. I'm surprised there aren't more mentioning of these little amazing clips.
I also added the handles to all my dewalt tool boxes. Dewalt now needs to make rolling drawer boxes.
the guy on etsy stole the idea without asking, but its cool. im not interested in making them, and its good there is a solution. the stl files are available for download on my website.
I’ve not noticed this Dewalt system very interesting Great insight thanks
Excellent! Thank you for the follow up video!
BEST review I've ever seen
Great video and again great thinking - hopefully Dewalt will incorporate the feedback and thank you for it 😎
I doubt any thanks will come though, but it would be nice to see them not wobble
Nice review and great mods.
Excellent ideas. Like how you took out the bottom shelf. I have the Milwaukee Pack-out system and love the built in hand truck on the base unit but they haven’t figured out the we all want shelving on the bottom with the Hand truck built in.
My Milwaukee Packout is 3-high and No Rocking and their much larger volume than Dewalt.
Thanks for your time 🙏
Awesome ideas...thanks for sharing
Awesome review Ollie! This helps me so much. I am another person interested in sourcing the anti wobble and dolly mounting clips 🙏🏼. Cheers Tony
Great video, really informative. I have a double drawer that I’ve been trying out for a few months before I commit to buying a bunch for my setup just like you. Good to know your thoughts and ideas and how they’ve evolved into your workflow. Having only one, I haven’t come across the wobble, thanks for pointing that out. I’d be interested in the anti wobble inserts and the locating brackets if there is a way of getting hold of them.
Keep up the great work!
Great video. Im definitely down for the stability inserts and the back to back mount.
Those anti wobble clips would be great to get hold of
hugely interested in the feet platforms and the anti wobble bits. very cool video!
Great video ! Thanks so much bro!
Great video! I dig the set up!
Thanks bud! I love it 😍
Nice. Same conclusion I've made regarding drawers. Polish QBrick has 3 very nice systems with a lot more feature (various lids, sorting containers, t-tracks or adapters for their smaller Pro line. High IP class) and better carts etc. Hard to get outside Poland, Germany and Finland though
Great video and update for the dewalt drawers which I purchased based on your initial video. Since have also purchased the handles but the issue with the wobble still remains and thought you suggested using 8mm ply, if that's not an option would definitely be interested in the plastic inserts and track for the trolley.
You're genius mate. Subscribed❤
another interesting video with great advice 🌞
cheers Ray
Great review. Would be interested in the anti-wobble inserts and the baseboard box position attachments
Great review !!! thanks
thanks Michael!
Great system. Can you link to the STL of the wobble clips?
I'd love to get my hands on files for those plastic inserts and brackets so I can print some out!
I saw these drawer units when they first came out in the US. I was really disappointed by the wobble. I have the original tough system non drawer toolboxes and they're rock solid when clipped together. Good to know there's a fix. But there shouldn't need to be!
So true that, I always find you have a much more productive day if the first thing you do is your set up, get the saws out, work table whatever .
question- the foam stuff is a bit intimidating, is it hard or easy to sculpt out?
Interesting video Ollie but my takeaway, which I didn't know and after some Googling, is that you can get an adapter for DeWalt batteries to fit Ryobi tools. I've often wondered about a brad nailer but have never liked the DeWalts bulky size. Ryobi on the other hand........🤔
Thank you, I want all that!
I was still a bit on the fence about this system. This video has pushed me over and I'll avoid the deep boxes in favor of the drawers, too. Thanks for the great content. Beers are on the way. Cheers!
I love using it. They can be heavy to lug about, but 99% of the time, i really enjoy using them. Spend the time to get organised and give every tool a home, it makes a huge difference to workflow and positivity while working
”The job isn’t finished until a tools inventory is taken.” It’s the last task on the work sheet in aircraft manitenance for an aircraft technician. The last thing you want is to give a tool ”flying time” by forgetting it in say, the cockpit for the pilot to discover when it’s smacking into the controls when making an advanced manouvre. Or making it’s way through the engine during takeoff, just because you put it somewhere in the aircraft during a job and then forgot all about it. The price to pay then, isn’t just the price of a new tool. The tools inventory saves both time and money. You don’t have to find out that that tool you really need to finish that job you are currently are going to finish off is missing, just when you need it. And You don’t have to buy a new tool to replace a a lost one. Common sense actually, if you think about it.
Bloody brilliant, I’m probably the most disorganised person in the world, the time wasted looking and money wasting buying 3 times or more must be horrendous
Can you explain if it’s not to much effort exactly how you would do your ‘tool inventory’ as a habit/ system?
Bloody REME aircraft techs 😂😂😂
@@Dazza19746I think the main thing is to build a dedicated spot for each tool and accessories that go along with said tool. You'll find yourself always putting the tool back in that same location when you're done using it and having it ready for the next time. Just like having a work van or pickup truck, you'll put your tools back into their dedicated spot when you're finished with a job and packing up
Don't you use fod cases??
@@ks-hg5vo what are fod cases?
Great review! Could you let me know how to get the wobble clips please? I use alot of the toughsystem 2.0 boxes with the racking system. Unfortunately DeWalt made the handles on the 2.0 too big, therefore making the boxes (especially drawers) tip forward. The 1.0 has better handles which lock onto the racking arms securely.
I am also very interested in the anti-wobble inserts, also interested in the plastic parts to fit the boxes on the board with the wheels. Perhaps your friend could make an SVG file available. I would be happy to pay for a copy of the file(s). Simple to send via e-mail, & perhaps a pay-pal account to accept payments. I saw the file you made last year just a few days ago, and I ran out right away to get a couple of those boxes! I think it is a brilliant solution!
Can I get link to stl file for 3d printer
Me too?
Another one here for the anti-wobble inserts and base plate @BradshawJoinery. I have a 3D printer and just need a file pretty please. Would be happy to pass along some $ for the trouble. Thanks!!
Great video thank you @BradshawJoinery. I would so appreciate more info on the plastic inserts for stacking. I recently purchased 2 more drawer sets to go with the 2 I already had, and wobble is a problem.
I have access to a 3D printer if access to the file was possible please.
Another great video. I’d been keen to buy or get the 3D printer file for the inserts. Cheers
I love the stabilizer insert idea, would really appreciate it if they could share the stl file!
Definitely would be interested in anti wobble clips. Shame you have to fix a brand new box with that poor design point but happy there is a solution
Probably been said in the comments already lol but I have bought the Milwaukee packout drawers instead of these and they are night and day better than the dewalt ones not just on build quality but the modifications you can do. Etsy has so many 3d accessories for packout as well. I’m about £1500 in so far but like you’ve done with your tsc55 drawer I’ve done the same but just cut the top drawer bottom out and glued and riveted the cut out back on the sides to make one big drawer. And on my 3 drawer cut the middle drawer to make a deeper drawer. But like you I love the drawers never been so organised. Keep up the good work.
I had the Milwaukee pack out set up with a cart, 1-3 drawer 1-2drawer and a few other bits…. The drawers hold so much they become annoyingly heavy to hump in and out of job sites…. I miss the less space required on-site… but not enough to overlook their size…. I think the Dewalt drawers may be a better solution for their smaller foot print.(I’m currently back with my Makita Systainers) Thanks for the video!
Hey man. From aus here. Nice vid.
How did you clip the work bench into the box?
I am also interested in the anti-wobble bits. I have also gone the 2 drawer DeWalt units, having 6 currently and waiting on 2 more to come. I want to also build the 4 unit worksite rolling kit, so any information you can send my way to get these plastic bits would be very appreciative. I might have to order a couple more DeWalt drawer units, as this is genius. Well done!
Good follow up video. It is a shame they dont make a full size single deep draw on on its own for items such as circular saws, planers, track saws etc. The draw system is a game changer in stacked systems. Apart from having them on racks to pull out as and when, a deep single draw that holds the circular saw that you can access immediately (like youve adapted) would make it ideal! Leave all the boxes stacked and just access what you need without boxes all over the place. Plus as you've done turn them into an actual work bench for onsite work (adapting for unlevel ground maybe?) Saves lugging around separate pop up saw horses as well. Would become a super little center! I love my tstak boxes but do find the item i need is always in the bottom box! Hence all out to fet at that one and no matter how smart you think you are by putting it back on top next item will be on the bottom that you need! Great video keep it up.
This. I want a big deep drawer for bigger tools that I use less often that can be at the bottom of the stack.
I've just invested in this type of system, thanks to the video, was thinking having one large top opening box at the top of the stack for the big stuff makes sense. So you can get to it.
Very nice
Was those base clips for attaching to trolley from the same guy? If not could you please add a link for those as am doing the same set up. Slowly as is not a cheap change but worth it I think
wow. great job
that wobble is the only thing stoping me buying those drawer units. i will get a set printed up straight away.
is there a link to the bracket that alligns them on the cart. that looks very handy
i love it ! It's perfect for a professional...but the mods should be done in the factory already.
As per auld ada, a place for everything & everything in place, re modified unit could you not get 3D printed draw cover extension to cover the open space then nothing will be visible to prying eyes
Hiya mate, great video pal. I've just ordered some DeWalt Tough system 2.0 drawer sets. I'm also thinking of getting a trolley dolly set up. Where can I get those clips for the dolly so the boxes mount and fix to it and also the plastic inserts to stop them from wobbling? Thanks for your help 👊
Craftsman TradeStak is essentially the same thing as the ToughSystem (both produced by Stanley Black and Decker), but the Craftsman version does not wobble and it's offerings are more limited. If drawers are what you want, the Craftsman TradeStak has the same thing, doesn't wobble, has one-handed disassembly, and is a little less expensive.
not even close these are different than anything else. very thin strong plastic
I'm very interested in the anti wobble inserts. If they're not available for sale maybe you could sell the CNC or 3D printer files.
I also would be very interested in buying the files or inserts
Could do with the anti wobble, love the set up 👍
The leaked ToughSystem 3.0 designs show that DeWalt fixed the wobble. The boxes attach at the front and rear (four points) instead of just two mid points on the sides.
Great video again, just wondering if you have used the tough system racking. I’m thinking of swapping from tstak to tough system so I can make better use of the limited space in the back of my Transit Custom crew cab. Thanks
I havent, i did a video on my van rack few weeks ago
great video. im upgrading to the tough 2 and had the same worries as yourself. noe i have them i know i need more and its the draws im after. ive also noticed the wobble. where can i get those clips?
I too have finally decided to move out of systainers but not necessarily for the reason of stacking and unstacking . Its more because of how fragile they are. Im tired of replacing handles, lids, etc..
One would think that for such an expensive tool and also an expensive box to buy separately, they would be a bit more durable.
I actually find myself trying to be careful with them at this point.
I recently had a client decide to be a stand up guy and help me carry my tools and he grabbed one facing backwards from my van caught the rear locking feat on a lip and tore the bottom out of an expensive systainer. That was the last straw !!!
Do you have a link to the clips for attaching to the bottom board with the castors?
Brilliant organisation mate. Can you do a review on your snickers trousers and tool storage in them. Cheers
Thanks Bud, they as 4271, couldnt be without the folding rule pocket which alot of others lack, slim fitting, incredibly stretchy. need replacing yearly. i buy 2 pairs every year.
@@BradshawJoinery nice one. I think I'll give them a try. My toolbelts weighing me down
I need those anti wobble inserts
I would like the inserts and the mounting plates if you come across a manufacturer
Great content really enjoy the channel 👍🏻
Hi would really be interested in the clips to lock the boxes together. How can I get hold of of them please
Here in the US, it would appear there’s someone at the tool store holding a gun to every tradesman’s head forcing them to spend $2k on Milwaukee Packout boxes. Absolutely everywhere.
But they are the best. Not hugely better than DeWalt, but stronger and better catch system.
Not just in the US, it's happening in the UK also 👀🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
It seems to be a bit of a fashion everywhere.
@@kiwigrunt330 I think systainers were. People still decorate their workshops with then. Those who use toolboxes for their actual purpose, transporting tools, soon find their shortcomings.
Another one for the abit wobble inserts please
Could you please help me out acquiring some of those anti-wobble inserts?
Where do I get the clips to mount the boxes to ply the same has you have done
Its a shame for carpenters who work with wood and build amazing homes to buy plastic toolboxes....so I run packout😂.
It doesn't matter what brand you like or use,what matters is finding the tool for the job in the moment.....and not buying replacements when you can't find them.
Having spilled countless screwboxes over the last 25 yrs,am terrified of screws in drawers and them tipping.
The one and only nice thing about the packout dolly,it will carry a combination of L-squares,guide rails,levels,laser tripods,dust poles and 3rd hands by the handle.
This could be adapted very easily to any system on a hand truck.
I prefer loading fewer drawers/boxes heavier.
Then I have smaller boxes a-la-cart style for lesser used tools in the truck.
Router,hardware jig/screws,jigsaw,coping jigsaw,16g/23g/18g nailguns, 2 Bosch sanders,planer.
My drill and driver box weighs about 45lbs,but has every bit in redundancy.
Good video with practical and excellent tips and tricks shown,cheers!
I’m a spark and I’m spending far too long looking for stuff. I currently use the tstak but it isn’t wide enough and it’s too deep. I’m gonna get two of these drawer boxes and also the trolley box
That’s quite the oversight from dewalt on the stacked boxes wobbling. Puts me off them now
I heard that he was very happy with them, just not 100% so
It is interesting as I have the system 1 drawers and they do not wobble at all
Its a fairly simple solution. the 1 series do not wobbly but got taken out of production for some reason.
Great and informative! Can I ask you for both STL files? Like other guys? I would like to try to print it as well. Thank you
Email me, address on website and I'll.forward
Hey Ollie, I’ve just bought some of the same drawers after your two reviews.
I’m really pleased with them and was wondering how you got the insert out and handle onto the top of the box?
There is 3 screws in the ends of the box that hold the side handles.on but it extends into the centre when you pull them out
@@BradshawJoinery thanks Ollie 👍
I wonder if the “normal” ds300 and ds400 can be modified to achieve the same thing
As a reasonable DIYer, I work out of a garage normally work out of my garage. I have been doing some work away from home. Not sure how you blokes do it. Everything I need is often still in the garage when I am at home. I understand why you have gone to this trouble!
Can you tell me what the make of the small laser tripod is please that fits in the boxes?
Maybe a manfrotto one, can you link the time in the format 05:12 so i can find it in the video
I need those antiwobble inserts. 😬
Dewalt needs to make a 1 drawer 8" version and a two drawer version with a 6" and 2" drawer. I think they would be great sellers.
Where can you get the clips you attached to the plywood to make your own dolly wheels
in the description i linked the 3d print file, or someone has stolen my idea and now sells them on etsy.
Love the mods! How to go about getting them? 3d print files? Also for the top table attachment, how did you secure it?
Go to my website and email me I'll send the files, I used a kitchen cabinet hanging cleat www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325443331723?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=6AHs5pOiQFq&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=&var=514472526924&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Routered underneath accurately but it's a bit temperamental to locate
@@BradshawJoinery +1 for this question, maybe you could show the under side of the table top? I'm planning to build this same setup, based on your design and 3d prints. Thank you for sharing!
If you source those anti wobble clips let me know that would be fantastic
will do!
I would love to get my hand on some of the anti wobble clips and adapter thingy you showed. That would help me out immensely
I just wish Festool would bring out some bigger drawer systainers like these already 😂
This is exactly the working style tool box video I wanted to see, they are so insanely expensive & then the foam don’t even get me started, I made my own ply tool box 30 years ago along with a ply fixing box, it’s get hammered & needs repairing now & again but always wondered if these modern plastic tool storage would be a good choice, they look good . But still not sure why plastic is so expensive & what the difference is between them all. Would you say these Dewalt are the best? I saw a video from the Shadow foam guy about an American system called Toughbuilt, again though crazy expensive to buy a whole system.
They are the best size and shape. I think the pack out is probably made better quality, but its best to get hands on with both and see which you prefer. These work great in the setup I showed here. Workbench and stack around the outside of work area. The pa kout seem really bulky.
@@BradshawJoinery thankyou, really appreciate the reply
Hi Ollie - Defo interested in the inserts please. Mark
Have they changed something with these as I have undone the screws to attach handle and they don’t slide out what internet shows 😮
Not that i know of, itll definitley be held in by the handle though id have thought. i cant remember but is ther 3 screws? Some of mine were tight to pull out
How is your wood top held in place on the top of the drawers?
i routered some metal kitchen cabinet hanging clips in but it was tricky to get the depths and clearance housing correct.
I'd love a link to anti wobble inserts please 🙏 Maybe dewalt could send me some. It's a major over sight 🤦
💪
How much did you spend on all that tough system storage?
I quick question
I saw a compass in your making out draw.
What is the make?
Veritas 👍
@@BradshawJoinery thank you.
Hi mate, can you still get hold of the little gadget that stops the wobble?? Cheers LH Joinery
Seems someone has stolen the idea and put them on Etsy so might help you. 👍
Nowt to do with me though
How waterproof are they? Loving your vids btw ✌️
Very! I have left mine outside in the rain. Not a drop inside. Definitely need to make sure the drawer is closed properly though.
pretty good, working in the rain few days ago they remained dry inside but wouldnt leave them in the rain unless had to
👍
thanks Mr Zipper
What are those long screwdriver bits?
erbauer 9 pcs extra long from screwfix
please let me know when you have info re anti wobble clips
Great video full of interesting ideas! Sign me up for details on both the anti-wobble inserts and the connecter for attaching the dolly too.