My favorite was when he played his first international tournament after joining the NHL. I think it was the Canada Cup but perhaps it was called the World Cup by then... regardless, those tournaments, especially at the time, were known for finesse and not body checking. Lindros hit the ice like a bull in a China shop and began laying out player after player, shift after shift until everybody eventually registered that they needed to keep their heads on a swivel because it was going to be a physical tournament.
@@esperago I definitely modeled my game after him, not nearly his size but he made an impact on the way I chose to play the game! Big hits and a little scoring mixed in !
Lindros was a living cheat code in his prime. He could run you over with brute force, break your ankles with dazzling stick handling, blow by you with elite skating, pick the corners with ease, or thread the needle with a perfect pass. In a way his immense size and power was a curse. He was so much stronger than everyone else so his bad habit of skating with his head down never hurt him for years. Had he got clocked in junior or earlier, perhaps he could have fixed this fatal flaw. By the time he made it to the NHL he was set in his ways and was unable to address that fatal flaw.
@@DanielH874 Truth. And he STILL did it after the first time he got nailed. Everybody goes on about the Stevens hit, and forgets about the Kasparitis hit. The three major hits, in order, were SCOTT STEVENS DARIAS KASPARITIS SCOTT STEVENS The 2nd Stevens hit was the clincher. Playoffs, series changer, career derailer.
If he played in today's NHL, he'd be putting up even crazier numbers. He had a target on his back and took too many head shots. I watched that series against the Devils and Scott Stevens essentially ended his career as an elite player
Scott Stevens is one of the biggest cheap shot artists to ever play the game!!! He didn't just try and hurt players...he tried to end their careers! That ain't hockey! That's a punk!
If the Flyers had someone on their team who would have pummeled moron Stevens if he touched their star players (like Nilan or Tiger Williams)..Lindros would have played 20 years with the Flyers and won several Cups....Stay Hard for Life...💯💪
For a massive guy he skated so damn well, he was a junkyard dog and mean as hell, the freakiest clip I've ever seen of Lindros was when he up-ended a guy and as the guy was falling Lindros put his forearms on the guys head and rode down with him into the ice. Straight psycho behaviour. Very exciting player and so good, being that big and having the amount of breakaways he did is remarkable, underrated shot and passing ability as well. Being that big, having no visor and shooting right is the sexiest thing in hockey. He also has a great compilation on TH-cam called "Lindros must see" the banger track "the unforgiven" by Metallica goes so hard.
That play you are speaking of was right off of a face off , right? Lol when Lindros , instead of going for the puck the moment when the ref drops it , proceeds to run the guy over and into the ice instead - right? Yeah - the ref’s hand automatically went up in the air upon that fine Lindros display. Lindros was as mad as a hornet on the ice and stung you hard - just to sting you again hard. And again. Then finally score. Beast . Yes junk yard dog with finesse I would say.
Lindros was truly hockey's Darth Vader - whenever he stepped on the ice, you knew something massive was about to happen. The way he'd barrel through the neutral zone like a freight train but still have those silky smooth hands was unreal. Those 90s/early 2000s Flyers teams were just straight-up bullies with skill - LeClair, Renberg, and Lindros as the Legion of Doom made every game feel like an event. Such a shame concussions cut his prime short, because Big E was definitely one of the most electrifying players the game's ever seen.
As a Flyers fan growing up in the 80's and 90's and then moving up to New England and having two kids of my own that play hockey, I don't think us Flyers fans really appreciated Lindros and his generational talent. He was absolutely incredible at the time and just what the Philly market needed. He personified the 90's style of play in the NHL and I can only imagine if someone with his size and skill level played today...
To me Lindros was one of the most exciting players to watch. He was like Darth Vader of hockey. Whenever he came to ice, something was ALWAYS going to happen. Great, great player and the beefy 90's / early 2000's Flyers was a great team to watch.
As a Bruins fan from Boston, after Cam Neely was forced to retire and Sinden gutted the team i jumped right on the Legion Of Doom bandwagon. So fun to watch.
The goal you show at 2:42 isn’t the goal form his home opener. I was at the game that night, the goal you’re talking about was a breakaway goal. EDIT: Found the right goal (th-cam.com/video/poK0HDtWjYo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ICaFPbYMjdlMVvbX) Lindros was so incredibly dominant it’s hard to describe. The combination of skill and size was unstoppable. He was like a freight train with hands. His main problem was he was so good and so big in juniors that he developed a bad habit of playing with his head down because when he was young he could just bull over everyone. He was never able to break that habit and it was the direct cause of his concussion issues - look at the hits where he suffered concussions, they were almost all him getting caught with his head down. If he had only been able to break that habit his prime would’ve been a solid 5 years longer and he’s pushing 1400-1500 points.
Great video. But you forgot the Nordiques also traded Lindros to New York Rangers as well. The NHL ruled in favor of the Flyers. Gotta wonder how that would have turned out?
I remember the nineties with all the big and failed hypes. And Lindros and Kariya has to be the symbols for that during the decade. However, all this was mainly due to injuries and the change of game style in NHL in the second half of the nineties.
Lindros was a beast for sure, but beasts are meant to be slain and that's exactly what happened. Nineties hockey was brutal enough without skating with your head down!! My favorite player Wendel Clark was also a victim of his vicious, demanding play style. Obviously much smaller guy, but the tenacity, hits, fights and skill were there. By the way today 25th of October Wendel Clark has birthday 🥳 Thanks for the cool memories!!
The only thing that was left off here was that the players that Quebec received took them to win the Stanley Cup just a couple years later. While Lindros was good... i think the winners of the trade were Quebec/ Avalanche.
As a Flyers fan, my only regret was that we did not draft him but had to give up so much (esp Forsberg) in having to trade for him because the Flyers lost their depth and predominantly the team was just known early with the Crazy 8's & later with the Legion of Doom lines... Oh well, cannot have it all but #88 made my 90's so thx for the memories!!!
Flyers traded Forsberg, Ricci, Hextal etc for Lindros. Lindros was a dominating player in the mid 90s. With his style of playing he was asking for troubles and he got plenty of those.
Trivia question: which player drafted from the 1991 draft ended up with the most career points? Lindros? Forsberg? Nope. The answer is Ray Whitney with 1064 career points.
And Ray Whitney played 24 seasons in the NHL as practically a journeyman . His one accolade was he found himself lucky enough to be on a SC winning team in 2006 with the Hurricanes - which hardly anyone remembers because it was - The Hurricanes who won it right after the lockout . I would take an injury laden and shortened career in either Lindros or Forsberg over Ray Whitney any day of the week , the month and the year . Rinse and repeat .
@SergioCalcio "Journeyman" is a pretty rough description for a guy who cracked 60 points 9 times in a career that included two 48 game schedules and one non-season.
Colorado won the Jackpot byLindros not signing with Quebec. You would never get Peter Forsberg and all those players for Lindros,not even just Forsberg for Lindros one for one..what an absolute steal…
Scott Stevens ended the fire 🔥 that was in Lindros. Ever since that hit he was never the same ! He loved skating wit that head down because he was so used to looking down at people in guess 🤷♂️
Scott Stevens, Chris Pronger, Pat Lafontaine, Mark Savard and Eric Lindros...out of those 5 players what one didn't retire due to concussion????? Answer...Eric Lindros retired with Dallas, not concussion related
A total goof but disgusting hockey player. Hate Philly and hate the Lindros boys but ….Steve Duh-shez-knee? Wtf??…..Eric was a beast of a player. That line was crazy.
I thought the same thing. Growing up, I think he could get away with that because everyone bounced off of him. It was a bad habit once he got to the NHL.
@@MrOccyc It was suicidal. Playing the way that he did wasn’t going to result in a long career, but his concussions all seemed to come from being head down. That should’ve been corrected in junior.
@@MrOccyci always thought that. In the juniors he was very big. In the NHL only bigger thwn average. Joel Otto started his concussions in Canada Cup before he ever played in NHL.
@@grarefu no one considers 88 an all time great unless they live in Philly. Sorry but that’s just fact, he is not in any conversation when people discuss all time greats. that’s just reality.
for a big guy he was always injured...2002/2003 he actually played in 81 games but only got 53 points, other then that the NHL was basically a 60 game season for Lindros...I take the hate comments but I don't think he deserved to be in Hall of fame.
@@beyond_thebench Both should be in. It's not just stats, it's the hall of fame, and Lindros was one of the most famous players ever. Winning the Memorial Cup and being in the Olympics with a gold also comes into the equation. Just the Hart trophy is usually enough, not many win that and don't go in. Of past winners going far back, only Taylor Hall and Jose Theodore are likely never getting in.
By 02/03 he was already on the downside and had a history of concussion issues. He was a different player by that point. If he had been able to play a full 82 games in the late 90s he would’ve been a consistent 120 point guy in the darkest of the dead puck era. I read Peter King talking about the NFL hall of fame years ago and he said that the criteria is basically, can you tell the history of the league without this person? If you can’t then he’s a hall of famer. You can’t tell the history of the NHL from 93-00 without Eric Lindros.
The problem with Eric was he had a habit. Of skating, with his head down because of how big he was. When he played for the generals, smaller players would bounce it off him. When he made it to the pros, he already had told two teams he didn't want to play for them. A lot of players did not like him. I know scott stevens didn't! He had some great years for philly end, the new york rangers.
Lindros has a ego most likely engrained in him from his parents control of his career. He does alot of humanitrain work I just feel if he didnt have his parents working for him maybe he might have made more well recived choices
Did you see the wobble when he got cranked by Scott Stevens after scoring, in his first games highlights. Stevens ruined Lindros career liked he ruined many others.
Prime Lindros was unstoppable but look at the hit against Dackell. That’s why I never liked him. He crushed him without reason. I mean Dackell. The least physical player ever. What kind of player does that.
From the time his dad interfered with the draft and he refused to play for Quebec his future as a pure elite player was sealed. The Avs got such a terrific package in exchange.
Eric Lindros was greatly skilled, but compared to the king Mario Lemieux, Jaromir Jagr, Teemu Selanne, Joe Sakic, Sergei Federov, Pavel Bure, Peter Forsberg etc. there was a lot of greater scoring tallents in the league from his era - Or young leaders like Steve Yzerman, Mats Sundin, Nicklas Lidstrom, Mike Modano etc. But the damage he took prematurly affected him and he lost confidence in his abilitirs (?)
There was not a lot of better scoring talent. People forget how great Eric was. Eric is 3rd in poi ts per game for the 1990s. Hes a hair below Gretzky & Lemieux is number one by a long shot. Still though people forget only Lemieux & Gretzky were better PPG players than him. Also it wasnt just a 5 year stretch. Again, people forget Eric's first year in NY was statistically one of his best seasons. He was an elite of the elite players for 9 straight years.
@@integrity101 But still Jagr won a lot of the scoring titles and awards the seasons Lemiuex was injured/ill and then retired after 1997. And Teemy Selanne scoring more goals
He was far more physically dominant than any of the players you mentioned. He did more than put up points, he ran over & put players through the boards. I'm not saying he was better than them, but his ice presence was something to be feared. That being said, he lived by the sword & died by the sword, but it was fun watching him play, especially in that era.
guys were slashed,hooked,cross-checked relentlessly and all they say is keep your head up hahaha him and Peter Forsberg(the greatest of all time) had to endure the torture because they were real warriors and Elite target for opposing teams.
Shake your head all you want, but it had a lot to do with his head injuries. All elite players were targeted, but those who kept their heads on a swivel had longer careers.
@QuanahParker17 elite players were targeted since the very beginning of hockey. That is what a goon does. Have you been around the sport long? I mean what's your point. Do you think eric lindrose was the first guy with a target on his back? You talk like this is ladies tennis.
Lindros could not stick handle to save his life and it's what actually ended his career! Every one of his concussions was because he was trying to stick handle with two hands and he didn't know how to! His only move was to skate with the puck one-handed and then throw a shoulder fake and then shoot. There's not a single clip of him going end-to-end with both hands on his stick. You watch any player in this era and they stick handle with both hands on the puck about 90% of the time.
Lindros put up crazy point totals at the start of the dead puck era. Except for being brittle, the closest comparison I can find is McDavid, though goals are up and McDavid is faster. They’re both big guys. But Lindros put up points when they were harder to come by.
That's one thing that's always made those earlier years of his in Philly even more impressive, it was in a part of the dead punk era. Just insanely impressive.
Lindros was a one dimensional player living off his size. Smoked cuz playing as a junior(with a big frame). Trading Forsberg for Lindros is one of the biggest NHL mistakes to this day.
Haha nobody who knows hockey at all “overlook” how dominant he was. In his prime he was the most dominant player in hockey history. Unfortunately, he never even reached his full potential. There has never been a player with so much finesse and skill mixed with equal physical strength and size. Nobody. Some are close, but none were an equal package.
id agree with 99% of your comment about how great Eric Lindros was and what could have been a superstellar career and up cut short by injuries.Thing is Peter Forsberg was ahead of Eric Lindros in all facets except his weight and the lack of using his ultra precise shot. But yeah apart from Lindros and Forsberg no players have dominate the rink like those 2 giants.
Rocket Richard and Gordie Howe are laughing from their graves. Lindros was a beast in his prime but not the best in hockey history not even close. You sound like a puck bunny.
@@TCFDS then Lindros by an inch because Peter Forsberg was clearly able to defend himself and he is the master of reverse hitting but Lindros could throw punches and take some as well.
@@mikescorpio13 Prine forsberg was special no doubt. I watched Eric in Phila his whole career and he would just run people over while carrying the puck full speed. Never saw anything quite like it.
Lindros was a chump, a cheat, a poor sport, a clown that got ended with so much karma by a real hockey player. The fact he made the HOF is an absolute embarrassment.
yeah him and Eric Lindros were the ultimate combo of talent,raw force and warrior mentality.Sadly players had no respect for the guys safety targeting the head as impact point. Lindros or Forsberg would be un-stoppable in today soft hockey.
@hankfairchild7951 Wayne Gretzky was the best offensively but could never fight a Kevin Hatcher or a Ulf Samuelsson and a hockey player should defend himself.... mens like Richard,Howe,Mikita,Stastny,Lindros,Forsberg will always be in front of Gretzky in term of being complete hockey player.
lindros should have had the same protection as gretzky and mario lemieux got from the team and the league. he would have done a lot more if he wasn't exposed to head hunters and players were out to injure him.
Gretzky didn’t get protection from the league, he got it from Semenko and McSorely. Lemieux didn’t get protection from anyone, and that’s why he missed half of his career games.
He was bigger than the guys hitting him an the refs still stepped in. Nov. 1995 he gets into a fight with Marty McSorley and even though Lindros is 3", 25 lb heavier, Marty waits him out, starts pounding on him and the refs step in! Why?
Lindros was a beast. And it was a great time to be a Flyers fan.
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man, growing up Lindros was my favorite player! always loved that he wore 88 one of the best hockey numbers of all time!
Legendary number, right up there with 99 and 66!
@@beyond_thebench true! Love the double numbers in hockey, some of the best to ever do it!
Awesome number - Heil Lindros ! Heil Victory ! 😉
My favorite was when he played his first international tournament after joining the NHL. I think it was the Canada Cup but perhaps it was called the World Cup by then... regardless, those tournaments, especially at the time, were known for finesse and not body checking. Lindros hit the ice like a bull in a China shop and began laying out player after player, shift after shift until everybody eventually registered that they needed to keep their heads on a swivel because it was going to be a physical tournament.
@@esperago I definitely modeled my game after him, not nearly his size but he made an impact on the way I chose to play the game! Big hits and a little scoring mixed in !
That flashy home opener goal against New Jersey followed up by a late hit from Stevens foreshadowed Lindros' fate.
Typical dirty hit by Steven's. If that disgusting hit to destroy his career
that was a clean hit by Stevens, stop it with the whining
@@freedomring3022 🤣
@@freedomring3022Tell them about how Stevens and ciccirelli raped a girl and then covered it up.
That's exactly what I've thought when I saw this scene.
The way they pronounced Steve Duchesne's name lol!
Didn’t really pronounce it as much as he chewed it up and spit it out
Because it’s Ai.
Grapes from Rock ‘em Sockem
Lol and Mike ricky
The way all of y'all pronounce the Swedish names lol
Lindros was a living cheat code in his prime. He could run you over with brute force, break your ankles with dazzling stick handling, blow by you with elite skating, pick the corners with ease, or thread the needle with a perfect pass. In a way his immense size and power was a curse. He was so much stronger than everyone else so his bad habit of skating with his head down never hurt him for years. Had he got clocked in junior or earlier, perhaps he could have fixed this fatal flaw. By the time he made it to the NHL he was set in his ways and was unable to address that fatal flaw.
@@DanielH874 Truth. And he STILL did it after the first time he got nailed. Everybody goes on about the Stevens hit, and forgets about the Kasparitis hit. The three major hits, in order, were
SCOTT STEVENS
DARIAS KASPARITIS
SCOTT STEVENS
The 2nd Stevens hit was the clincher. Playoffs, series changer, career derailer.
living cheat codes don't have to stare at the puck to stickhandle
If he played in today's NHL, he'd be putting up even crazier numbers. He had a target on his back and took too many head shots. I watched that series against the Devils and Scott Stevens essentially ended his career as an elite player
I take your point but people forget Lindros was an ALL STAR in NYR also.
Scott Stevens is one of the biggest cheap shot artists to ever play the game!!! He didn't just try and hurt players...he tried to end their careers! That ain't hockey! That's a punk!
Agreed, him and Marty Mcsorley
If the Flyers had someone on their team who would have pummeled moron Stevens if he touched their star players (like Nilan or Tiger Williams)..Lindros would have played 20 years with the Flyers and won several Cups....Stay Hard for Life...💯💪
@@joefarm2897 no...because the damage would have been done already no matter who they have to retaliate
For a massive guy he skated so damn well, he was a junkyard dog and mean as hell, the freakiest clip I've ever seen of Lindros was when he up-ended a guy and as the guy was falling Lindros put his forearms on the guys head and rode down with him into the ice. Straight psycho behaviour.
Very exciting player and so good, being that big and having the amount of breakaways he did is remarkable, underrated shot and passing ability as well.
Being that big, having no visor and shooting right is the sexiest thing in hockey.
He also has a great compilation on TH-cam called "Lindros must see" the banger track "the unforgiven" by Metallica goes so hard.
That play you are speaking of was right off of a face off , right? Lol when Lindros , instead of going for the puck the moment when the ref drops it , proceeds to run the guy over and into the ice instead - right? Yeah - the ref’s hand automatically went up in the air upon that fine Lindros display. Lindros was as mad as a hornet on the ice and stung you hard - just to sting you again hard. And again. Then finally score. Beast . Yes junk yard dog with finesse I would say.
I watch that video a few times every year for the past few years. I can’t believe that happened every time I watch it
@@SergioCalcio no it was along the boards I think.
@@grarefu which one? Where he up ends the guy?
Forwarded the video to the Scott Stevens part. Never get tired of this one.
Lindros was truly hockey's Darth Vader - whenever he stepped on the ice, you knew something massive was about to happen. The way he'd barrel through the neutral zone like a freight train but still have those silky smooth hands was unreal. Those 90s/early 2000s Flyers teams were just straight-up bullies with skill - LeClair, Renberg, and Lindros as the Legion of Doom made every game feel like an event. Such a shame concussions cut his prime short, because Big E was definitely one of the most electrifying players the game's ever seen.
As a Flyers fan growing up in the 80's and 90's and then moving up to New England and having two kids of my own that play hockey, I don't think us Flyers fans really appreciated Lindros and his generational talent. He was absolutely incredible at the time and just what the Philly market needed. He personified the 90's style of play in the NHL and I can only imagine if someone with his size and skill level played today...
Amazing player, in the era he played at his peak in Philadelphia his points total is insane lol!
To me Lindros was one of the most exciting players to watch. He was like Darth Vader of hockey. Whenever he came to ice, something was ALWAYS going to happen. Great, great player and the beefy 90's / early 2000's Flyers was a great team to watch.
As a Bruins fan from Boston, after Cam Neely was forced to retire and Sinden gutted the team i jumped right on the Legion Of Doom bandwagon. So fun to watch.
Star players must always be protected... especially in team sports...Stay Hard for Life 💪💯
His slap shot buzzer beater goal from center ice was disgusting 🔥
Hell ya it was !
The goal you show at 2:42 isn’t the goal form his home opener. I was at the game that night, the goal you’re talking about was a breakaway goal.
EDIT: Found the right goal (th-cam.com/video/poK0HDtWjYo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ICaFPbYMjdlMVvbX)
Lindros was so incredibly dominant it’s hard to describe. The combination of skill and size was unstoppable. He was like a freight train with hands. His main problem was he was so good and so big in juniors that he developed a bad habit of playing with his head down because when he was young he could just bull over everyone. He was never able to break that habit and it was the direct cause of his concussion issues - look at the hits where he suffered concussions, they were almost all him getting caught with his head down. If he had only been able to break that habit his prime would’ve been a solid 5 years longer and he’s pushing 1400-1500 points.
Great video. But you forgot the Nordiques also traded Lindros to New York Rangers as well. The NHL ruled in favor of the Flyers. Gotta wonder how that would have turned out?
Indeed, I believe Larry Bertuzzi (Todds great uncle) was the arbitrator who ruled in favour of the Flyers trade.
And Alexei Kovalev would have been one of the players going the other way. So the debate instead of Lindros and Forsberg would be Lindros and Kovalev
I remember the nineties with all the big and failed hypes.
And Lindros and Kariya has to be the symbols for that during the decade. However, all this was mainly due to injuries and the change of game style in NHL in the second half of the nineties.
Lindros was a beast for sure, but beasts are meant to be slain and that's exactly what happened.
Nineties hockey was brutal enough without skating with your head down!!
My favorite player Wendel Clark was also a victim of his vicious, demanding play style. Obviously much smaller guy, but the tenacity, hits, fights and skill were there.
By the way today 25th of October Wendel Clark has birthday 🥳 Thanks for the cool memories!!
for two years, he was the best player I've ever seen
The only thing that was left off here was that the players that Quebec received took them to win the Stanley Cup just a couple years later. While Lindros was good... i think the winners of the trade were Quebec/ Avalanche.
Exactly!
Yeah. They got Hextal Ricci and Forsburg and next year took the cup. Admittedly as the Avalanches but hey
As a Flyers fan, my only regret was that we did not draft him but had to give up so much (esp Forsberg) in having to trade for him because the Flyers lost their depth and predominantly the team was just known early with the Crazy 8's & later with the Legion of Doom lines... Oh well, cannot have it all but #88 made my 90's so thx for the memories!!!
A super good skater he was too. You could hear clearly his skates crushing the ice (Saw him against the Nordiques! :) )
That cruuuunch
Lindros was a beast! Please do Ray Bourque soon!
Oooo thats a good one!
WHY he didnt sign with the Nordiques is a good point to mention. The brass being creeps at best and criminally harassers at worst targeting his mom.
He is still my favorit player!
I’m amazed nobody tried to counter elbow the hall of famer Scott Steven of blind of hits
Flyers traded Forsberg, Ricci, Hextal etc for Lindros. Lindros was a dominating player in the mid 90s. With his style of playing he was asking for troubles and he got plenty of those.
Trivia question: which player drafted from the 1991 draft ended up with the most career points? Lindros? Forsberg? Nope. The answer is Ray Whitney with 1064 career points.
Oooo that’s a fun stat!
And Ray Whitney played 24 seasons in the NHL as practically a journeyman . His one accolade was he found himself lucky enough to be on a SC winning team in 2006 with the Hurricanes - which hardly anyone remembers because it was - The Hurricanes who won it right after the lockout . I would take an injury laden and shortened career in either Lindros or Forsberg over Ray Whitney any day of the week , the month and the year . Rinse and repeat .
Because he played longer, dolt.
@@SergioCalcio I never said he was a better player. I'm just pointing out a statistical fact.
@SergioCalcio "Journeyman" is a pretty rough description for a guy who cracked 60 points 9 times in a career that included two 48 game schedules and one non-season.
He was amazing, for some reason the entire nhl was out for him. He was a target every game. I dont know why
Colorado won the Jackpot byLindros not signing with Quebec.
You would never get Peter Forsberg and all those players for Lindros,not even just Forsberg for Lindros one for one..what an absolute steal…
My favorited player , still has playing cards and jersey.
🔥
Most exciting player ever
He did his job it wasnt his fault flyers had pathetic goalies during his prime years . Lindros was one of a kind..
bodybuilder on ice. hes great
Scott Stevens ended the fire 🔥 that was in Lindros. Ever since that hit he was never the same ! He loved skating wit that head down because he was so used to looking down at people in guess 🤷♂️
Flyers made it to the finals in 1985 and 1987. So the comment at 4:07 is incorrect
Also 1980.they have made they made it 6 times since I was two years old and lost six straight times
Who overall would you take Lindros or Forsberg?
Forsberg obviously had the better career. But I think at the time you had to take Lindros.
For one game at their peak, i think it has to be lindross
@@jo5r8753 I agree
I would have to take Forsberg but its close.Lindros is 14th overall in all time points per game average but Forsberg is ranked 9th overall.
My dream would have been to see Bure, Lindros et Lemieux on the same line.
Lindros at peak was undestructible.
Scott Stevens, Chris Pronger, Pat Lafontaine, Mark Savard and Eric Lindros...out of those 5 players what one didn't retire due to concussion?????
Answer...Eric Lindros retired with Dallas, not concussion related
Steve Du-Chev-ne 😆😆😂😂😂😂
People often forget that he forced teams to change their drafting strategie. After Lindros everyone started hunting big center for over 20 years.
Absolutely!
A total goof but disgusting hockey player. Hate Philly and hate the Lindros boys but ….Steve Duh-shez-knee? Wtf??…..Eric was a beast of a player. That line was crazy.
“Steve Doo-shes-knee” 😂
His fatal flaw was looking down at the puck. It seems like every major hit that he took was as a result of his head being down.
I thought the same thing. Growing up, I think he could get away with that because everyone bounced off of him. It was a bad habit once he got to the NHL.
@@MrOccyc It was suicidal. Playing the way that he did wasn’t going to result in a long career, but his concussions all seemed to come from being head down. That should’ve been corrected in junior.
@@MrOccyci always thought that. In the juniors he was very big. In the NHL only bigger thwn average. Joel Otto started his concussions in Canada Cup before he ever played in NHL.
The head down argument never made sense. everybody look down at the puck, Wayne Gretzy Lemieux, mcDavid. Everybody do it.
@ Go back and look @ their plays. Gretzky never got caught with his head down. Orr did one or twice, but not like Lindros.
Word: He was a great player, but the Flyers did not spend enough money in getting him great talent to back him up. Nov. 2024, USA
Lindros would dominate in any era.
He didn’t even dominate in his era… he was great at bullying smaller guys. The league eventually responded. Hence his short career.
@@guins99did you see his stats? 4th PPG all time when he left the flyers. And that’s with beating the shit out of everyone
@@grarefu no one considers 88 an all time great unless they live in Philly. Sorry but that’s just fact, he is not in any conversation when people discuss all time greats. that’s just reality.
@ 88 would beat the shit out of whoever you consider better so idc
Jagr vs Lindros who will win?
In a fight?
@beyond_thebench Maybe or other
for a big guy he was always injured...2002/2003 he actually played in 81 games but only got 53 points, other then that the NHL was basically a 60 game season for Lindros...I take the hate comments but I don't think he deserved to be in Hall of fame.
Alex Mogilny should 1000% be in if Lindros is in
@@beyond_thebench Both should be in. It's not just stats, it's the hall of fame, and Lindros was one of the most famous players ever. Winning the Memorial Cup and being in the Olympics with a gold also comes into the equation. Just the Hart trophy is usually enough, not many win that and don't go in. Of past winners going far back, only Taylor Hall and Jose Theodore are likely never getting in.
@@ericmills9839Taylor Hall is going in idc what you say
@@HoweyJR_ and so you shouldn’t, not hating on the guy, just don’t see it happening at this point barring him winning a cup and Conn Smythe.
By 02/03 he was already on the downside and had a history of concussion issues. He was a different player by that point. If he had been able to play a full 82 games in the late 90s he would’ve been a consistent 120 point guy in the darkest of the dead puck era. I read Peter King talking about the NFL hall of fame years ago and he said that the criteria is basically, can you tell the history of the league without this person? If you can’t then he’s a hall of famer. You can’t tell the history of the NHL from 93-00 without Eric Lindros.
It is a CRIME that John LeClair is not in the HoF
Yup!
The problem with Eric was he had a habit. Of skating, with his head down because of how big he was. When he played for the generals, smaller players would bounce it off him. When he made it to the pros, he already had told two teams he didn't want to play for them. A lot of players did not like him. I know scott stevens didn't! He had some great years for philly end, the new york rangers.
Ya exactly! Definition of keep your head up!
Steve duchezny???
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Stevens dislike for Lindros started with Lindros’ first goal. Butterfly effect.
He could fly for a big guy
Sure could!
Hearing them pronounce Duchesne
Lindros has a ego most likely engrained in him from his parents control of his career. He does alot of humanitrain work I just feel if he didnt have his parents working for him maybe he might have made more well recived choices
Very solid point!
Apparently he's friends with Kurt Russell. Wikipedia has some random ass facts.
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He had it all
But all that checking made him to target.
Did you see the wobble when he got cranked by Scott Stevens after scoring, in his first games highlights. Stevens ruined Lindros career liked he ruined many others.
Steve ”Duchessnee”. 😄
...Scary
Swing and a miss!
Dew-shane! It's pronounced Dew-shane!
Dushesne is suppose to be prononce like duchene😅
😂 ya oops haha
@@mashmarttv That’s what happens when people chuck up posts for clicks really quickly and just let AI narrate it.
These AI narrated videos suck
Steve “Du-shez-nee” (Duchesne)… Lol
Prime Lindros was unstoppable but look at the hit against Dackell. That’s why I never liked him. He crushed him without reason.
I mean Dackell. The least physical player ever. What kind of player does that.
Lol the sport was brutal back in the day
From the time his dad interfered with the draft and he refused to play for Quebec his future as a pure elite player was sealed. The Avs got such a terrific package in exchange.
Eric Lindros was greatly skilled, but compared to the king Mario Lemieux, Jaromir Jagr, Teemu Selanne, Joe Sakic, Sergei Federov, Pavel Bure, Peter Forsberg etc. there was a lot of greater scoring tallents in the league from his era - Or young leaders like Steve Yzerman, Mats Sundin, Nicklas Lidstrom, Mike Modano etc.
But the damage he took prematurly affected him and he lost confidence in his abilitirs (?)
Was a super skilled era for sure. Just nobody as physically dominate as he was. Which ultimately led to his downfall really.
There was not a lot of better scoring talent. People forget how great Eric was.
Eric is 3rd in poi ts per game for the 1990s. Hes a hair below Gretzky & Lemieux is number one by a long shot. Still though people forget only Lemieux & Gretzky were better PPG players than him.
Also it wasnt just a 5 year stretch. Again, people forget Eric's first year in NY was statistically one of his best seasons. He was an elite of the elite players for 9 straight years.
@@integrity101 But still Jagr won a lot of the scoring titles and awards the seasons Lemiuex was injured/ill and then retired after 1997. And Teemy Selanne scoring more goals
@@beyond_thebench True, that it was!
He was far more physically dominant than any of the players you mentioned. He did more than put up points, he ran over & put players through the boards. I'm not saying he was better than them, but his ice presence was something to be feared. That being said, he lived by the sword & died by the sword, but it was fun watching him play, especially in that era.
People act like he wasn't targeted because he was so elite.. shutup with your "keep your head up" comments..smh
guys were slashed,hooked,cross-checked relentlessly and all they say is keep your head up hahaha him and Peter Forsberg(the greatest of all time) had to endure the torture because they were real warriors and Elite target for opposing teams.
@@mikescorpio13 And both of their careers were far too short due to injuries, each less than 800 games.
@dmgd509 it's hockey lady
Shake your head all you want, but it had a lot to do with his head injuries. All elite players were targeted, but those who kept their heads on a swivel had longer careers.
@QuanahParker17 elite players were targeted since the very beginning of hockey. That is what a goon does. Have you been around the sport long? I mean what's your point. Do you think eric lindrose was the first guy with a target on his back? You talk like this is ladies tennis.
In his prime, one of the most dominant players ever
Heard lindros had an affair with Brindamours wife?
Wow really?
Prolly the best all around Hockey Player ive ever seen , could score and put people through the boards unlike all the other soft super stars
Was a beast!
He was the best overall player in the league not named Mario or Jaromir when he was on his game.
100%
@@beyond_thebench nope, that would be FEDOROV
Sabres are the best anyway who cares
Goalies were insanely terrible back then
Hasek, Marty B, Roy, Joseph, Richter, Belfour, Potvin...yeah no good goalies back then 🙄
Had he stayed healthy and played a full career, he would have been the best player in the game connection between Lemieux and Crosby.
All the tools and no toolbox
At least learn how to pronounce the players names before making any videos ..
Without a doubt the best power forward in history..
look at lindors without a shirt on and u will understand his power
Beast!
My favorite Lindros memory is Scott Stevens
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Lindros could not stick handle to save his life and it's what actually ended his career! Every one of his concussions was because he was trying to stick handle with two hands and he didn't know how to! His only move was to skate with the puck one-handed and then throw a shoulder fake and then shoot. There's not a single clip of him going end-to-end with both hands on his stick. You watch any player in this era and they stick handle with both hands on the puck about 90% of the time.
Lindros put up crazy point totals at the start of the dead puck era. Except for being brittle, the closest comparison I can find is McDavid, though goals are up and McDavid is faster. They’re both big guys. But Lindros put up points when they were harder to come by.
For sure!
That's one thing that's always made those earlier years of his in Philly even more impressive, it was in a part of the dead punk era. Just insanely impressive.
Jagr outscored Lindros every year of the dead puck era.
Lindros was a one dimensional player living off his size. Smoked cuz playing as a junior(with a big frame). Trading Forsberg for Lindros is one of the biggest NHL mistakes to this day.
Please. He could whine and cry with the best of them. He and daddy even bawled his way into the HOF.
Haha nobody who knows hockey at all “overlook” how dominant he was. In his prime he was the most dominant player in hockey history. Unfortunately, he never even reached his full potential. There has never been a player with so much finesse and skill mixed with equal physical strength and size. Nobody. Some are close, but none were an equal package.
id agree with 99% of your comment about how great Eric Lindros was and what could have been a superstellar career and up cut short by injuries.Thing is Peter Forsberg was ahead of Eric Lindros in all facets except his weight and the lack of using his ultra precise shot.
But yeah apart from Lindros and Forsberg no players have dominate the rink like those 2 giants.
@@mikescorpio13 I agree, Forsberg was better overall but I was including fighting in my assessment!
Rocket Richard and Gordie Howe are laughing from their graves.
Lindros was a beast in his prime but not the best in hockey history not even close.
You sound like a puck bunny.
@@TCFDS then Lindros by an inch because Peter Forsberg was clearly able to defend himself and he is the master of reverse hitting but Lindros could throw punches and take some as well.
@@mikescorpio13 Prine forsberg was special no doubt. I watched Eric in Phila his whole career and he would just run people over while carrying the puck full speed. Never saw anything quite like it.
Lindros was a chump, a cheat, a poor sport, a clown that got ended with so much karma by a real hockey player. The fact he made the HOF is an absolute embarrassment.
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@@beyond_thebench Whatchoo lookin at lol
Forsberg was the best player out of all players mentioned 🫡
Absolutely!
Elite!
yeah him and Eric Lindros were the ultimate combo of talent,raw force and warrior mentality.Sadly players had no respect for the guys safety targeting the head as impact point.
Lindros or Forsberg would be un-stoppable in today soft hockey.
Made the Avalanche a power team with Stanley Cups. Forsberg: 13 seasons / 708 games, 249 goals / 636 assists / 885 points (1.25 points per game) / +238 +/-, 7x All-Star Games / 3x All-Star, 1x Hart, 1x Ross, 1x Calder, 2x Stanley Cup, 2x Olympic Gold
Lindros: 13 seasons / 760 games, 372 goals / 493 assists / 865 points (1.14 points per game) / +215 +/-, 7x All-Star Games / 2x All-Star, 1x Hart, 1x Pearson, 1x Olympic Gold / 1x Silver
@hankfairchild7951 Wayne Gretzky was the best offensively but could never fight a Kevin Hatcher or a Ulf Samuelsson and a hockey player should defend himself.... mens like Richard,Howe,Mikita,Stastny,Lindros,Forsberg will always be in front of Gretzky in term of being complete hockey player.
lindros should have had the same protection as gretzky and mario lemieux got from the team and the league. he would have done a lot more if he wasn't exposed to head hunters and players were out to injure him.
Gretzky didn’t get protection from the league, he got it from Semenko and McSorely. Lemieux didn’t get protection from anyone, and that’s why he missed half of his career games.
He was bigger than the guys hitting him an the refs still stepped in. Nov. 1995 he gets into a fight with Marty McSorley and even though Lindros is 3", 25 lb heavier, Marty waits him out, starts pounding on him and the refs step in! Why?
he was over rated
Perhaps!
He sucked
Well, no haha
@beyond_thebench staring at the puck means you suck