I wish Bean was still here. It would have been dope to hear him on JJ’s podcast talking trash with JJ about the Orlando series in the finals and to also hear other cool stories straight from his mouth. Dang man 😔
Basketball was his thing. That’s why it’s important for kids to find that thing they’re talented at cause their whole personality and spirit can evolve from the confidence that being good at something builds
@@Obiamajoyisrmd He didn't say he is Kobe. @kevin said that the story makes him think of Luka...and there are parallels. Luka has played and excelled as a teenager (Euroleague MVP). How many teenagers do you know do stuff like that? You can say that the Euroleague isn't the NBA but give the kid some credit. He also led his country to a bronze medal game at the Olympics. Go watch some of those games and see his impact. I am a Lakers fan and love Kobe but I am also a big believer in this Luka kid. The way he dominates all NBA defence players (Kawhi, Paul George and now Bridges) one-on-one (especially in the post) is not something to sneeze at...and I believe he is only 23? Look at his playoffs scoring stats. The kid is coming. I am excited at what he is becoming. Dallas got a good one.
I needed this bro. Been struggling with motivation in regards to creating content, but this helps. I appreciate you bro, keep spreading positivity and love into the world
At 15, I was working my first job delivering the newspapers in my neighborhood, and spending all of my money on rap cassettes. Kobe was 15 & giving these folks the business. Lol The young Pup was hungry! We lost a great 1. #MissYouKobe 💜💛 - Signed 05/09/2022
Kobe played a local high school (Cathedral Prep) in my area for the PA State Title his senior year of HS. Everyone knew who he was of course and where he was going to be drafted etc. They triple teamed him, at least, every play. It worked for a little while, the first half Kobe actually struggled. In the 2nd half, still god damn triple teamed, this dude took over and Kobe’s team obviously won (it was still kinda close Tbh). The Prep team’s fans called him overrated and people watching at home who didn’t realize he was triple teamed thought he wouldn’t be all that and little did everyone know within a couple years they’d all feel real stupid. Shout out PA hoops
That's been Kobe's NBA career too, they just call him names without context (usually from analysts/experts) who never played profesional basketball yet we got NBA legends, hall of famers etc that have him in their top 3 list. As a lifetime Kobe fan, the love that Kobe got after death was mostly fake love but real ones know how great he was.
- Never liked kobe, Brash. selfish. But dang, he worked hard. And when your home crowd chants against you so he just....plays even harder and they start cheering for you, that's respect.
Well got to remember, it was a few years ago before this where Kobe did not score a single point in the Summer league he played in. But by 14 years old improved and was the number 1 player in Pennsylvania. So after that probably thinks he can do anything lol
Kobe the only player in any sport who deserves an entire podcast dedicated to stories other people can tell about him. Maybe Larry bird, tiger woods, or secretariat as well but Kobe deserves it.
One thing about bron and kobe discussions is that bron fans thing kobe wasn’t an nba ready player in high school and only lebron at 15-18 was a man ready to play in the league. Kobe was ultra athletic, skilled and professional at such a young age like lebron but situation is what had kobe wait on the bench rather than given the keys to the team. All nba 3rd team first year as a starter should say it all and then all defensive and nba year after year. Personally believe if lebron got drafted to a team with van exel and Eddie Jones with a coach who didn’t believe in 18 year olds should be in the nba, he wouldn’t start either.
Kobe was a prodigy just like Lebron. I don't think anyone who really knows what they talking about think Kobe wasn't ready at 18. At 16 both players could have played in the NBA. Lebron is still the best 18 year old i've ever seen though. He got the opportunity to get the keys early but what he did with that opportunity no player has ever done and will probably ever do at that age.
People that say Kobe is a MJ clone really don’t appreciate how he used it as a template and made his own game from it. Sorry he’s the closest thing yes but if you really watched him and not just media and hater narratives….he played differently from mike completely. He just mastered his moves so on paper you just accept the talking points.
The one thing I always hated about how people view Kobe is that he was the closest thing to Jordan. They sum up his entire career, skillet, and individual personality as "almost Jordan." And that's just not the only thing Kobe was. Kobe modelled his game after Jordan yes (I mean who wouldn't) but he also did so many things differently. The way he spoke came from a competitive standpoint, like Jordan sure, but also from an intelligent standpoint that I don't think anyone in nba history comes close to. I believe Kobe was an actual genius, and nit just "basketball IQ," I'm talking actual genius scientist-level thinker. The way he spoke, the way he carried himself, especially in his later years, you can tell he was just different.
Because they think it's wrong to say someone was better than Jordan, so they belittle The Goat's career by saying. "He was the closest thing to Jordan" when in actual reality Kobe was better. Pretty much, Kobe Bean Bryant is the greatest nba player that ever lived. And even Jordan knows that. He'll never admit it though. Cause if he did, his fan boys would take a leap off the grand canyon! SMDH 😆
@@rekus37 i was talking to my fellow people at my job I'm telling them facts they don't want to hear me the only person that can beat jordan one on one is kobe bean bryant case closed
@@everdash FVCKING LAUGHABLE. Legler hit the nail on the head. Kobe was hard to like because he was a straight up COPY CATTER. LEGENDS respect LeBron path and accomplishments. Only you insecure Kobesexuals bring up LeBron when Kobe is mentioned because you know deep down LBJ is a better basketball player.
There are already stories like this about Lebron, even you bring him up when it has little to nothing to do with him. Lebron was more NBA ready out of high school than anyone.
Let's review the amazing story of when Legler would routinely talk trash about Kobe from 04-08, then again from 11-16. They change up when the man dies.
Just a shame Del Harris didn't play Kobe more first 2 years. His totals and averages would be way higher and better. He was already good enough at that age.
Eddie Jones would’ve been a rookie top 10 pick by LA the summer Kobe was 15 and going into junior year so definitely not an all star yet but a good starting guard at 14 ppg and good d. Ridiculous that anybody at 15 could do work against NBA players or even high level college players though.
Kobe was a prodigy but the dates don't add up really; Legler's last season in Dallas was 1993-1994, Eddie Jones didn't even make the league until 1994-95 let alone make an all-star team. Kobe was 15 years old that summer so maybe Legler just meant Kobe was playing well against soon to be rookie Eddie Jones, eventual all-star. But Jones' first all-star season wasn't until Kobe was a rookie and was 18 years old.
15 years old does seem a little young to go against NBA playersand all stars and hold his own even for Kobe, I would say probably closer to 17 would be my guess.
I want to know who Kobe went up against at staple center before the draft. Someone talked about how kobe beat a older legend player one on one before the draft
If Kobe's the "closest" thing to MJ we'll ever see, then according to the law of proximity, some logical people are going to have to move him up on their all-time list. Illogical people do as you wish.
I still don’t think Kobe became his own player tbh….he was trying to hard to be Jordan and that’s I could never have him GOAT debates because he was to much like Jordan…now when we talk about mamba mentality that’s just his mind set of where I’m just going to out work you that’s it but he was just to much like Jordan
Kobe is the Goat, people want to bring accolades up which are highly political, and a criteria has never been truly established, idk anyone would ever put Bron in that conversation with that finals record and the amounts of help he has had throughout out his career
Anyone who thinks Kobe was better than Lebron is delusional. Kobe shot free throws better. That's literally it. Yeah Kobe has more chips, but he was never going to lead 10 teams to the finals. The "mamba mentality" Probably made him win less cause he wouldn't have driven Shaq out and he wouldn't have put up so many fadeaways over double teams instead of you know, passing the ball
@@jordanslaver7758 Kobe didn’t have a team for the longest. Bron created his team since the MIA days. If Kobe had the same luxury his stats would loook better too. Kobe’s better then Bron
Awesome how Kobe reached that elite status where people tell stories about him. Other guys that get a lot of stories told about them are Wilt, Bird, and Jordan.
@@keenenbenton9843 Magic is a slight step down to me. He had Kareem. If you swap him and Bird, Bird with Kareem wins 5+ titles. I don't think Magic with Parish/McHale win 3+.
@@yeseloraelsama8949 nah, kobe's level of obsession reached true insanity. Kobe had the competitiveness of Jordan, but his heart and soul was truly committed to the game. Jordan would golf, play baseball, gamble, etc. All just because he was competitive. But Almost everything kobe did had basketball in mind, some way to give him an edge. His insane daily regimen is the stuff of legend. played soccer to improve his footwork. He knew italian, so he used that base to learn other languages like Spanish to understand and communicate to his international players (like Pau), he retired and won an Oscar reminiscing on his history and love of basketball. Your favorite player has a story of how kobe made them question "how much do I really want this?". He truly was the mad scientist of the NBA. An insane artist.
He was obsessed with being the GREATEST. Almost every guy in the NBA is obsessed with basketball their whole life, but I agree there are levels to this.
Kobe stated that he noticed players became complacent once they went to the NBA. Probably because they became millionaires. His passion was for the game above incentives.
Philly 90’s basketball was the best. I remember leaving school early to go to the Lower Merion Games to see Kobe play. You had Rasheed Wallace at Gratz, Kobe at Lower Merion, Donnie Carr at Roman Catholic, Rip Hamilton at Coatsville. Like Kobe said that’s where I get my attitude from. Philly!!!!
Hell yeah! I remember Gratz coming to my HS back then, Reading High. It was the year after Donyell Marshall graduated and was starring at Uconn. Crazy talent in a lot of sports in Philly and the outskirts. Basketball, baseball, football.
Man I played against Sheed, Hank, Bo, Lionel, Poo Richardson, Dawn Staley and plenty more during the 90's before they out the drugs in the hood that's all we did!, 25th and Diamond, 15th and Susquehanna was lit, man those days!😆😆😆
@@mus434 I got my bike stolen from around, I used to live in Abbottsford Projects I rode my bike around there, they stole my bike. Rip Hank Gathers. Those were the times
I was and am a Jordan fan. When I first seen clips of Kobe I thought he was just another wannabe. Then I turned off the rhetoric and watched him play and realized he’s no Jordan wannabe, he’s Kobe and he’s something special.
So refreshing to hear this take. I love both of them and neither one of them reminds me of the other. Their determination was the only thing I saw similarities in.
People don't understand this at all. Kobe came into the league completely polished as a professional ball player. All he needed to do was to bulk up and once he did that the rest was history.
at this point, I'm sad that I haven't heard every story there is about Kobe. I know he lived a whole life and impacted thousands of people that he met so ill probably never hear every story, but they're all so amazing to hear that it just leaves me craving more Kobe ;_;
That's what made him so great. He had the same love for MJ like MJ's fans but he knew he'd be hated for going at who they love most. To be a teenager and wanting to skip college just to seize the oppurtunity to play against MJ during his championship form is having the confidence that is out of this world.
It is misleading to say Kobe was great without mentioning his father was a creative NBA basketball player. How come Joe Bryant style of play never mentioned when talking about Kobe
Probably because Kobe outshined his father by miles. Usually it's the father who is much better than the son but in Kobe's case he outshined his father before he stepped into the NBA. Joe Bryant lives in his son's shadow and that's the weirdest thing you can think of but Joe Bryant made Kobe great by working with him as a toddler. Joe just wasn't that great on the court as his son but he damn sure created one of the greatest players to ever touch a basketball
Kobe hurt himself by trying to replicate MJ. He was a better passer, playmaker, and ball handler than MJ, if he tapped into that a little more instead of trying to replicate MJ's style completely, he would've been undisputed GOAT
God doesn’t want anybody in hell because He loves us, but you must understand why we deserve hell and why those who refuse to live under His authority will go there. He gave us the law (Ten Commandments) not to make us righteous, but rather to show us our sin (Romans 3:20). We’re not sinners because we sin, but rather we sin because we’re sinners. Sin is the nature of our flesh that we are born with due to the sin of Adam in the garden. For someone to be justified before God they have to be sinless. We’ve all sinned (Romans 3:23), and the the law demands death for those who sin (Romans 6:23). God is righteous, so He must punish our sin, which is what He did through His Son Jesus Christ on the cross. Jesus is Holy and sinless, yet He received our sin when He died on the cross, so that we can be righteous before God (2 Corinthians 5:21). When He died on the cross, He said “It is finished” (John 19:30), which means He paid the full price for all of your sins (past, present, and future) to be forgiven. He was buried and rose again from the dead. God will forgive anybody who puts their full trust in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. We aren’t saved based on our good deeds, but only by the grace of God (Ephesians 2:8-9). His precious blood that He shed is the only reason why we can be forgiven of our sins (Hebrews 9:22). If you confess that Jesus is Lord and believe that God raised Him from the dead, then you’ll be saved (Romans 10:9). You are born-again with the Spirit of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17), and are not only legally justified before God, but also are accredited His righteous (Romans 4:24). Believers live for Christ now, so get to know Him through His Word. I recommend reading the book of Romans and the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), and watching Pastor Joseph Prince’s online sermons
People say kobe wasn't efficient but it's because he wants to school everyone one on one if he licked to only take efficient shots he'd shoot over 60% from the field
Over the last two years after his passing I've come to realize that, you can't put Kobe in the ranking with everyone else, he's different. He's basically MJ's shadow, wherever you put Mike you gotta have Kobe right there along him. If MJ's GOAT status is agreed upon then Kobe is the 1.1 version of it. Then you start ranking everybody else from #2 and downwards
Kobe was very similar MJ of course, MJ was a superior athlete at his peak to kobe, Kobe was a great athlete but not quite at MJ's level with quickness, speed and leaping ability. I think Kobe had a better one on one ball handling game than MJ. Kobe had the most dominant force ever on three of his rings. Skill for skill Kobe is up there with anyone who ever played.
Love a fresh Kobe story. Never get tired of hearing new things about him.
Great minds think alike
Me neither, keep them coming.
I do let that man rip
@@nflqent5996 dam bro. Congrats
Greatest stories on TH-cam
"They think he's got a chance"
"Yeah... think so?"
😂 Love stories like this
A 15 year old going head to head with Eddie Jones…He MIGHT have a chance lol Love how he said it
Did he put the word fo Embid as a MVP? Man is a joke
"He's got a chance" ya, he's got a chance at 15
My man was 15 putting in work against allstars and grown men. He's just built different, no other way to put it.
Absolutely Bro! We lost a great 1
Yep. Also check Luka Doncic's performance at 16. Some guys are just born that way.
@@denizg2653 Luka wasn't close to Kobe's level though
They always talking bout Lebron vs. Jordan. IT'S KOBE VS. JORDAN!!
@@Mr196710 Kobe didn’t even start his first two years. He had great work ethic but Luka is better at the same stage
I wish Bean was still here. It would have been dope to hear him on JJ’s podcast talking trash with JJ about the Orlando series in the finals and to also hear other cool stories straight from his mouth. Dang man 😔
This
15 year olds be struggling with emotions and getting awkward around girls, but then there's Kobe. He's the one that made me love basketball.
Basketball was his thing. That’s why it’s important for kids to find that thing they’re talented at cause their whole personality and spirit can evolve from the confidence that being good at something builds
Projecting
Another Kobe BS story to make him relevant
This story of Kobe makes me think of Luka now, going pro in Europe at 16, playing against grown men.
Don’t do that.
@@Obiamajoyisrmd He didn't say he is Kobe. @kevin said that the story makes him think of Luka...and there are parallels. Luka has played and excelled as a teenager (Euroleague MVP). How many teenagers do you know do stuff like that? You can say that the Euroleague isn't the NBA but give the kid some credit. He also led his country to a bronze medal game at the Olympics. Go watch some of those games and see his impact. I am a Lakers fan and love Kobe but I am also a big believer in this Luka kid. The way he dominates all NBA defence players (Kawhi, Paul George and now Bridges) one-on-one (especially in the post) is not something to sneeze at...and I believe he is only 23? Look at his playoffs scoring stats. The kid is coming. I am excited at what he is becoming. Dallas got a good one.
@@outofnaija nothing in your thesis was in “this story.” So the fact that you wrote it means you don’t understand the original comment, or my reply.
Way different style and skill set over there but I get ya analogy
@@Obiamajoyisrmd ok. I guess I misunderstood your point. I thought you meant it was wrong to compare a young Luka to a young Kobe
Sometimes life doesn't give you what you want,not because you don"t deserve it but because you deserve much more. I’m telling you keep grinding!🤞🏽❤️🔥
I needed this bro. Been struggling with motivation in regards to creating content, but this helps. I appreciate you bro, keep spreading positivity and love into the world
Bro that’s what I needed to hear! Thank you!
At 15, I was working my first job delivering the newspapers in my neighborhood, and spending all of my money on rap cassettes. Kobe was 15 & giving these folks the business. Lol The young Pup was hungry! We lost a great 1. #MissYouKobe 💜💛
- Signed 05/09/2022
Kobe played a local high school (Cathedral Prep) in my area for the PA State Title his senior year of HS. Everyone knew who he was of course and where he was going to be drafted etc. They triple teamed him, at least, every play. It worked for a little while, the first half Kobe actually struggled. In the 2nd half, still god damn triple teamed, this dude took over and Kobe’s team obviously won (it was still kinda close Tbh). The Prep team’s fans called him overrated and people watching at home who didn’t realize he was triple teamed thought he wouldn’t be all that and little did everyone know within a couple years they’d all feel real stupid. Shout out PA hoops
That's been Kobe's NBA career too, they just call him names without context (usually from analysts/experts) who never played profesional basketball yet we got NBA legends, hall of famers etc that have him in their top 3 list. As a lifetime Kobe fan, the love that Kobe got after death was mostly fake love but real ones know how great he was.
Perhaps its this game here:
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Kobe knew he wasn’t accepted in philly sad fan base booing him asg & he got as game mvp 😂
I miss Kobe 😞
I feel like ever Kobe story I hear is exaggerated but I know it’s not, he was a weird dude in a phenomenal way.
- Never liked kobe, Brash. selfish. But dang, he worked hard. And when your home crowd chants against you so he just....plays even harder and they start cheering for you, that's respect.
I agree it sounds mythical but it is real
“Yea, I think so” 🤣🤣🤣
You guys need your own show
Well got to remember, it was a few years ago before this where Kobe did not score a single point in the Summer league he played in. But by 14 years old improved and was the number 1 player in Pennsylvania. So after that probably thinks he can do anything lol
KB24/8 is a top five all time.
I F#CKING LOVE KOBE STORIES!!!!!
Legs kept it super real here…ty Mr Legler
Kobe the only player in any sport who deserves an entire podcast dedicated to stories other people can tell about him. Maybe Larry bird, tiger woods, or secretariat as well but Kobe deserves it.
it's almost like legler is the concerned dad and jj the concerned big bro and this is the long overdue intervention of davis reid
Very very cool story
One thing about bron and kobe discussions is that bron fans thing kobe wasn’t an nba ready player in high school and only lebron at 15-18 was a man ready to play in the league. Kobe was ultra athletic, skilled and professional at such a young age like lebron but situation is what had kobe wait on the bench rather than given the keys to the team. All nba 3rd team first year as a starter should say it all and then all defensive and nba year after year.
Personally believe if lebron got drafted to a team with van exel and Eddie Jones with a coach who didn’t believe in 18 year olds should be in the nba, he wouldn’t start either.
Kobe was a prodigy just like Lebron. I don't think anyone who really knows what they talking about think Kobe wasn't ready at 18. At 16 both players could have played in the NBA. Lebron is still the best 18 year old i've ever seen though. He got the opportunity to get the keys early but what he did with that opportunity no player has ever done and will probably ever do at that age.
People that say Kobe is a MJ clone really don’t appreciate how he used it as a template and made his own game from it. Sorry he’s the closest thing yes but if you really watched him and not just media and hater narratives….he played differently from mike completely. He just mastered his moves so on paper you just accept the talking points.
Nailed it 👏🏿
excellent point
EXACTLY!! Brilliant take
Still cant believe kobe scored 60 on his last game
I was outside staples
The one thing I always hated about how people view Kobe is that he was the closest thing to Jordan. They sum up his entire career, skillet, and individual personality as "almost Jordan." And that's just not the only thing Kobe was. Kobe modelled his game after Jordan yes (I mean who wouldn't) but he also did so many things differently. The way he spoke came from a competitive standpoint, like Jordan sure, but also from an intelligent standpoint that I don't think anyone in nba history comes close to. I believe Kobe was an actual genius, and nit just "basketball IQ," I'm talking actual genius scientist-level thinker. The way he spoke, the way he carried himself, especially in his later years, you can tell he was just different.
you see again the media has a problem with modeling his game after michael jordan I don't know why they hate on kobe bro
Because they think it's wrong to say someone was better than Jordan, so they belittle The Goat's career by saying. "He was the closest thing to Jordan" when in actual reality Kobe was better. Pretty much, Kobe Bean Bryant is the greatest nba player that ever lived. And even Jordan knows that. He'll never admit it though. Cause if he did, his fan boys would take a leap off the grand canyon! SMDH 😆
@@rekus37 i was talking to my fellow people at my job I'm telling them facts they don't want to hear me the only person that can beat jordan one on one is kobe bean bryant case closed
@@rekus37 How was Kobe better than Mike?
And that's why I say Kobe was the most skilled basketball player ever.
Too right legs , “ not a bad guy to pick” I dig that
how was this known but he fell to pick 13?! I know 96 was a great class but wow...
Eddie Jones was a beast
I Ain’t Eva Scared!!!
Cool story
You'll never hear stories about LeBron like this when he retires. Kobe is a legend of legends.
Actually you will
@@thedon5367 Actually, you won't. Legends don't respect LeBron the way they do Jordan, Kobe, and others. Sorry.
@@everdash FVCKING LAUGHABLE. Legler hit the nail on the head. Kobe was hard to like because he was a straight up COPY CATTER. LEGENDS respect LeBron path and accomplishments. Only you insecure Kobesexuals bring up LeBron when Kobe is mentioned because you know deep down LBJ is a better basketball player.
There are already stories like this about Lebron, even you bring him up when it has little to nothing to do with him. Lebron was more NBA ready out of high school than anyone.
@@everdash lmao look it up hater
Let's review the amazing story of when Legler would routinely talk trash about Kobe from 04-08, then again from 11-16. They change up when the man dies.
Where's the story
Can I hear the review?
False news...Legs is a sports analyst GOAT and he has always had respect for the Mamba. Stop being disrespectful!
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Just a shame Del Harris didn't play Kobe more first 2 years. His totals and averages would be way higher and better. He was already good enough at that age.
Eddie Jones would’ve been a rookie top 10 pick by LA the summer Kobe was 15 and going into junior year so definitely not an all star yet but a good starting guard at 14 ppg and good d. Ridiculous that anybody at 15 could do work against NBA players or even high level college players though.
Eddie Jones was still in college when Kobe was 15. He wasn’t an nba all star then. Eddie was an nba all star Kobe’s rookie season.
Young mamba
Kobe was a prodigy but the dates don't add up really; Legler's last season in Dallas was 1993-1994, Eddie Jones didn't even make the league until 1994-95 let alone make an all-star team. Kobe was 15 years old that summer so maybe Legler just meant Kobe was playing well against soon to be rookie Eddie Jones, eventual all-star. But Jones' first all-star season wasn't until Kobe was a rookie and was 18 years old.
Yea I noticed that too. I make mistakes remembering things differently like that all the time the older I get lol.
15 years old does seem a little young to go against NBA playersand all stars and hold his own even for Kobe, I would say probably closer to 17 would be my guess.
@@ceceroxy2227 lebron, but he’s the best high school prospect in the modern nba. And he was 16 or 17 lol
@@beanteam2217 Lebron was the best prospect that we have seen, and more physically capable. Kobe at 15 just seems a little young, at 17,18 definitely.
@@ceceroxy2227 agree
I want to know who Kobe went up against at staple center before the draft. Someone talked about how kobe beat a older legend player one on one before the draft
It was Michael Cooper. 1987 NBA defensive player of the year
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@@silewis9396 got u thanks man
Damn.
Coming from a former NBA Players They've ALL Know the Hardwork, Mindset of a Kobe Bean Bryant.
I can imagine a 15 year old Kobe calling ISO with a bunch of old heads😂🤣
This story makes it even worse that Kobe almost fell out of the lottery.
damn it man what could've been, seeing Schea Cotton destroy Kobe in his jr year i thought
hes gonna be sick when he gets to the league. smh
Prech
The more Kobe stories I hear, the more I feel he was taken WAY too soon
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Sounds like melo skills at 15, 16
He ended Eddie Jones's Laker career 🏀
Bruh 15?!
Not all Americans eat half of the wing
I really hate that people werent giving Kobe his props in the early 2000s
The whole Shaq fued really fucked with his legacy
But he quieted a lot of that noise in 08 (MVP year), 2009 & 2010 after becoming a much better leader
They need to bring Joe Bryant
The worst possible analyst to get mans got a brick for a brain when it comes to sports or just basketball really
He wanted to be him. But, he can’t have the logo!
VA 2 up 2 down
If Kobe's the "closest" thing to MJ we'll ever see, then according to the law of proximity, some logical people are going to have to move him up on their all-time list. Illogical people do as you wish.
What they didn’t know was that 15 year old kid was gonna be the best player to touch a ball
Is Legs getting Botox? no judgment. Just an observation
I still don’t think Kobe became his own player tbh….he was trying to hard to be Jordan and that’s I could never have him GOAT debates because he was to much like Jordan…now when we talk about mamba mentality that’s just his mind set of where I’m just going to out work you that’s it but he was just to much like Jordan
Cable version of jordan. Sad shouldve jus been himself. Dude wore a jordan jersey after shaq carried them in finals
Kobe so overrated
LeBron is overrated
Cap
So are you thoughts
Nigga lebron trash to
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Kobe is the Goat, people want to bring accolades up which are highly political, and a criteria has never been truly established, idk anyone would ever put Bron in that conversation with that finals record and the amounts of help he has had throughout out his career
What have you done bro
At least I won a powerlifting meet
Anyone who thinks Kobe was better than Lebron is delusional. Kobe shot free throws better. That's literally it. Yeah Kobe has more chips, but he was never going to lead 10 teams to the finals. The "mamba mentality" Probably made him win less cause he wouldn't have driven Shaq out and he wouldn't have put up so many fadeaways over double teams instead of you know, passing the ball
@@jordanslaver7758 let's appreciate them all
@@jordanslaver7758 Kobe didn’t have a team for the longest. Bron created his team since the MIA days. If Kobe had the same luxury his stats would loook better too. Kobe’s better then Bron
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Awesome how Kobe reached that elite status where people tell stories about him. Other guys that get a lot of stories told about them are Wilt, Bird, and Jordan.
That status were you become a myth
You named arguably the four greatest players. So, makes sense.
@@Theworkingtitle7 can’t forget magic as well but it’s weird you don’t hear stories about magic quite as much
@@keenenbenton9843 Magic is a slight step down to me. He had Kareem. If you swap him and Bird, Bird with Kareem wins 5+ titles. I don't think Magic with Parish/McHale win 3+.
The thing about Kobe is that he was obsessed with basketball. All NBA players are talented, but very few are obsessed with the game.
I think most nba players are obsessed just not as obsessed as kobe
Its a combination of talent and obsession, work ethic, desire. He had everything, thats what makes the greats. Got to have the talent though.
@@yeseloraelsama8949 nah, kobe's level of obsession reached true insanity. Kobe had the competitiveness of Jordan, but his heart and soul was truly committed to the game. Jordan would golf, play baseball, gamble, etc. All just because he was competitive. But Almost everything kobe did had basketball in mind, some way to give him an edge. His insane daily regimen is the stuff of legend. played soccer to improve his footwork. He knew italian, so he used that base to learn other languages like Spanish to understand and communicate to his international players (like Pau), he retired and won an Oscar reminiscing on his history and love of basketball. Your favorite player has a story of how kobe made them question "how much do I really want this?". He truly was the mad scientist of the NBA. An insane artist.
He was obsessed with being the GREATEST. Almost every guy in the NBA is obsessed with basketball their whole life, but I agree there are levels to this.
Kobe stated that he noticed players became complacent once they went to the NBA. Probably because they became millionaires. His passion was for the game above incentives.
love that JJ and Matt Barnes always ask, what your best kobe story. makes him feel alive still.
Philly 90’s basketball was the best. I remember leaving school early to go to the Lower Merion Games to see Kobe play. You had Rasheed Wallace at Gratz, Kobe at Lower Merion, Donnie Carr at Roman Catholic, Rip Hamilton at Coatsville. Like Kobe said that’s where I get my attitude from. Philly!!!!
That's crazy our high school team in California had Tony Gonzalez on it and they ended up playing Rasheed Wallace in a few games
Hell yeah! I remember Gratz coming to my HS back then, Reading High. It was the year after Donyell Marshall graduated and was starring at Uconn. Crazy talent in a lot of sports in Philly and the outskirts. Basketball, baseball, football.
Man I played against Sheed, Hank, Bo, Lionel, Poo Richardson, Dawn Staley and plenty more during the 90's before they out the drugs in the hood that's all we did!, 25th and Diamond, 15th and Susquehanna was lit, man those days!😆😆😆
@@mus434 I got my bike stolen from around, I used to live in Abbottsford Projects I rode my bike around there, they stole my bike. Rip Hank Gathers. Those were the times
@@BasicBeachCommunity1 Tony Gonzales a legend.
I was and am a Jordan fan. When I first seen clips of Kobe I thought he was just another wannabe. Then I turned off the rhetoric and watched him play and realized he’s no Jordan wannabe, he’s Kobe and he’s something special.
So refreshing to hear this take. I love both of them and neither one of them reminds me of the other. Their determination was the only thing I saw similarities in.
That's a fact my g
Do you know how insanely good you have to be as a perimeter player at 15-years-old to play against perennial all stars and pros?
Probably as good as a future MVP, champion and hall of famer
Like top 10 player ever good?
People don't understand this at all. Kobe came into the league completely polished as a professional ball player. All he needed to do was to bulk up and once he did that the rest was history.
Kobe is so legendary that you think he is a made up character. Dropped 81. Swam with sharks. Just so many stories. RIP my hero.
Jumped over a speeding Aston Martin, 360 dunk from the foul line, yeah the list goes on...
Kobe was just different
Crazy stuff man I’d be scared to play the guys at my local gym at that age lol
His father was a pro Kobe had already been playing grown men for years.
@@freddycalipari4242 green men are scary
@@leehamz3885 🫣
@@leehamz3885 Nah I was playing against green men when I was 13. It was like space jam
@@leehamz3885 😂
Eddie Jones was the person who told Jerry West to look at Kobe.
Then he replaced him lol
@@hairjordan2620 That was the same thing that Jeff Hornacek said to Jerry Colangelo concerning Charles Barkley.
KOB was DIFFERENT! Out there at 15 hurting Grown Men Feelings!!. Ouch!!!!!
at this point, I'm sad that I haven't heard every story there is about Kobe. I know he lived a whole life and impacted thousands of people that he met so ill probably never hear every story, but they're all so amazing to hear that it just leaves me craving more Kobe ;_;
Tim Legler always delivers, I f’ing love that guy.
Legit Tim legler since I was a kid is hands down then best NBA analyst.
I remember thinking early on....the audacity of thinking you could be another MJ. Didn't really like him much early on. Miss him dearly now.
That's what made him so great. He had the same love for MJ like MJ's fans but he knew he'd be hated for going at who they love most. To be a teenager and wanting to skip college just to seize the oppurtunity to play against MJ during his championship form is having the confidence that is out of this world.
Eddie Jones was drafted in 94. Kobe came in 96. Idk if he was a all-star yet but there is a 6 years gap.that's crazy
and Eddie Jones was NOT some scrub.
Eddie Jones got them Kenny Smith legs but his whole career..
@@pasigiri He had Kobe's starting job for the first 2 and a half years of Kobe's career
Eddie Jones was so underrated. I think he helped Kobe a lot to grow when he entered the NBA. It was a mistake for the lakers to trade Jones.
@@leonardoyi3183 you're dumb. They traded him for Glen Rice and they won the championship with Rice.
Kobe had a different mentality a boy among men didn’t even go to college went straight to the league I’m proud to say he’s my GOAT 🐐 🐍💜💛🙏🏿‼️
Kobe was the legit last of people like him in the NBA.
We all thought Russ was it but he proved not to be
Russ' skillset did not evolve too much. He actually became a worse shooter after he left the Thunder.
@@ivanvillarruz8412 I'm aware that's why I put Russ proved not to be
This was enlightening for me. Thank you 🙏
“Yea I think so” 😂😂
It is misleading to say Kobe was great without mentioning his father was a creative NBA basketball player. How come Joe Bryant style of play never mentioned when talking about Kobe
Probably because Kobe outshined his father by miles. Usually it's the father who is much better than the son but in Kobe's case he outshined his father before he stepped into the NBA. Joe Bryant lives in his son's shadow and that's the weirdest thing you can think of but Joe Bryant made Kobe great by working with him as a toddler. Joe just wasn't that great on the court as his son but he damn sure created one of the greatest players to ever touch a basketball
@@BlackRoyalty_ Do you know who influenced Kobi the most? His father and Uncle played in the NBA.
@@BlackRoyalty_ bro you have to be great to play in the league lol
@@Thiiink I said he wasn't that great on the court as his son. Learn to read
@@BlackRoyalty_ sir - he was great to kobe when he was a kid. Take a seat and put your head down- don't get slapped
Tim and JJ need a show
Kobe is ready on day1
There was no delay and later for him, winning happens right now
Nah.. not quite ready. He even said himself he needed to get stronger
JJ too woke for me
Damn Just To Think He Came In The League An Took Eddie Jones Spot From The Lakers. "Reality Often Disappointing"
A microphone stand on the table would be great and more relax. IMO great stuff none the less
definitely
Great story but… bro thumb is distracting 😂
Only JJ can pull off a stone White cap and white T combo. 🥃 Love the podcast.
lmao what?
I miss Kobe man
Kobe hurt himself by trying to replicate MJ. He was a better passer, playmaker, and ball handler than MJ, if he tapped into that a little more instead of trying to replicate MJ's style completely, he would've been undisputed GOAT
Closest to MJ but yet Kobe never cracks anybody's top 3 or 4...SMH....
Didn’t know Tim played ball, great analyst
He was a 3 point sniper
He was a sniper for real smooth shot.
God doesn’t want anybody in hell because He loves us, but you must understand why we deserve hell and why those who refuse to live under His authority will go there. He gave us the law (Ten Commandments) not to make us righteous, but rather to show us our sin (Romans 3:20). We’re not sinners because we sin, but rather we sin because we’re sinners. Sin is the nature of our flesh that we are born with due to the sin of Adam in the garden. For someone to be justified before God they have to be sinless. We’ve all sinned (Romans 3:23), and the the law demands death for those who sin (Romans 6:23). God is righteous, so He must punish our sin, which is what He did through His Son Jesus Christ on the cross. Jesus is Holy and sinless, yet He received our sin when He died on the cross, so that we can be righteous before God (2 Corinthians 5:21). When He died on the cross, He said “It is finished” (John 19:30), which means He paid the full price for all of your sins (past, present, and future) to be forgiven. He was buried and rose again from the dead. God will forgive anybody who puts their full trust in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. We aren’t saved based on our good deeds, but only by the grace of God (Ephesians 2:8-9). His precious blood that He shed is the only reason why we can be forgiven of our sins (Hebrews 9:22). If you confess that Jesus is Lord and believe that God raised Him from the dead, then you’ll be saved (Romans 10:9). You are born-again with the Spirit of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17), and are not only legally justified before God, but also are accredited His righteous (Romans 4:24). Believers live for Christ now, so get to know Him through His Word. I recommend reading the book of Romans and the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), and watching Pastor Joseph Prince’s online sermons
Watch out for Anthony Edwards in 10 years
Mamba Forever!! :(
MJ Lebron Kobe and eventually Luka maybe the 4 best and most complete all around basketball players ever.
People say kobe wasn't efficient but it's because he wants to school everyone one on one if he licked to only take efficient shots he'd shoot over 60% from the field
Over the last two years after his passing I've come to realize that, you can't put Kobe in the ranking with everyone else, he's different. He's basically MJ's shadow, wherever you put Mike you gotta have Kobe right there along him. If MJ's GOAT status is agreed upon then Kobe is the 1.1 version of it. Then you start ranking everybody else from #2 and downwards
Great take!
Kobe was very similar MJ of course, MJ was a superior athlete at his peak to kobe, Kobe was a great athlete but not quite at MJ's level with quickness, speed and leaping ability. I think Kobe had a better one on one ball handling game than MJ. Kobe had the most dominant force ever on three of his rings. Skill for skill Kobe is up there with anyone who ever played.
Shitty take. Lebron and Kareem are clearly better. A number of others over him too.
@@daviesugo7641 I do think Lebron is definitely better, I never saw Kareem in his prime so I cant say.
What an awful take.
I love tim legler people forget tim legler led the league in 3 point average for like 2 years