JJ Redick Explains Why This Might Be Kobe Bryant's Most Underrated Play Ever | Pau Gasol
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- JJ Redick and Pau Gasol talk about the 2009 NBA Finals between The Orlando Magic and The Los Angeles Lakers. JJ also explains to Pau Gasol why a particular play in that series is one of his favorite Kobe Bryant plays.
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JJ's passion is still burning
He will be a coach in this league if he wants it
Paul Gasol is one of the most underrated centers of all time. Gotta love him as a Lakers fan
PF
@@nealsmall9316 Possibly
@@nealsmall9316 what?
hes very articulate too. would love to see him and marc talk about the nba and international ball
@@nealsmall9316 yes
Episodes like this really put into perspective the mindset of great players compared to everyone else.
True
Word. Well said.
This guy wanted it to be Kobe’s best play gtfoh that’s how you can tell this center was Kobe’s real team mate the way he described him
Kobe was a great passer when he wanted to be. He just liked gettin buckets more.
being the best bucket getter of all time will do that to you
He is a shooting guard for a reason.
Rewatched the 2001 all star game. It was tight at the end. Kobe had the ball for the last shot. Wouldve been tough but a shot we're used to kobe taking. He made the right play and passed it to timmy. Against good d, timmy misses the 6ftr. West loses. After that moment I doubt kobe ever again passes up that shot
Kobe just believed he was the best option. He certainly prepared himself to be. As a Laker fan I believed he was whenever he was on the floor.
idk about great but his passing is underrated
Kobes 2009 nba Finals is one of the best performances in nba history
True!
FACTS
I remember Dwight Howard helpless in the air trying to swipe twice on a hanging Kobe with the changing shot.
He was not leaving that finals empty handed
Yes indeed
jj really has one of the best podcast out there 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
As he was one of the best shooters
He’s great but I really don’t enjoy zoom podcasts. It’s good now but if it were in Person it would be literally one of the best.
@Allen no I enjoy human interaction in person, body language ect dork. The zoom feels like I’m watching a meeting or FaceTime.
I like how he praised the Rookie Courtney Lee who played big minutes at Finals which is crazy
Man Kobe used to always do things like that. Double pump fakes, turnaround jump shots, freaking pass to hisself off the backboard lol , Every time you think you have him covered he does something outta nowhere to answer. His bag was hella deep he just didn’t go into it all game every game. He showcased his versatility when he needed to.
I think it’s because he was a basketball historian. Remember him talking about stealing a movement from Jerry West, another from Olajuwon, and stories about talking with Jordan over call or text at random times in the morning/day,evening analyzing aspects of the game and how to conquer them/conquer with them
Kobe was the most optimized physics player of all time. He put so much energy & force with his offensive arsenal, he gave defenses fits with the intricate science he had in his game.
With Kobe’s high force & energy, he gave the opposing defense negative motion & behavior with their bad body language & the defense constantly shifting in bad positions
I’m 20 years old and there isn’t a day where i watch Nba basketball where i wished i could’ve seen 2000-2010 basketball live
Honestly the game 7 against Boston imo showed that, his shot wasn’t falling. But his rebounding impacted the game and honestly was probably the difference. He wanted it more.
@@bucksn6ix facts, he really did what ever it took to win
Glad you brought this up JJ! This play is definitely underrated.
That Kobe dish to Pau in that game, that was one of my fav dishes. It's like some and1 streetball looking play.
That play is still one of the most resonant memories I have of watching Kobe in the finals. That play, to me, explained what Kobe is as a person, a crucial Game 4 in the crucial minutes in the NBA Finals, 3 defenders on him, and he finds a way.
I remember watching that game live and thinking wow, the Magic are actually going to even the series. As Kobe started his spin, I was thinking, ok he really is just gonna try and win this 1v4. And then the drop off to a trailing Pau. Unbelievable play. And like JJ said, it happened so quickly that it made the comeback possible.
the whole kobe doesnt pass narrative always bugged me. averaging 6 assists as a 2 for your career is damn good. rip the 🐐
The narrative only exists because of Shaq's critique and the existence of Lebron James. If Kobe started playing 10 years earlier no one would have said a word. Hell, they'd say he's a willing passer
@@theinktician I agree
But if he was known as a pass first player that play wouldn’t work. Dwight would have waited for the trailer instead of trying to block Kobe. Knowing Kobe, I bet he intentionally wanted to be known as the guy who doesn’t pass to give him an edge in emergency situations like this.
U all are right and great points and perspective
Not only this, but 6 APG for someone in the Triangle Offense is actually great. Only three (3) players have done this under Phil (Kobe, Jordan, Pippen). People who insult his APG don't know about basketball or basketball systems. If "hockey assists" were a thing in the NBA the triangle would be insane in the stat.
You can't look at numbers and ignore context.
That magic team was really good and underrated. The Lakers were a freakin' buzz saw in that finals.
I feel like they created the modern nba. Nobody was shooting 3’s like them at that point
@@mlee4467 suns and Dantoni were an amazing 3 point shooting team but yeah magic had a much better all around team
When Kobe put his mind to it, he was one of the best passers in the league.
In an offense like the Triangle, one guy doesn’t rack up a bunch of assist.
Thank you
@@marcusreed5862 just telling the truth
Exactly. Scottie Pippen was the point forward with the Bulls. And even with MJ taking most of the shots, Pippen never put up huge assist numbers. With that offense, everyone was expected to be a playmaker on the court. Not just one guy.
Always amazes me how pro athletes, especially the great ones, remember details of plays 20 years later.
Those plays happened in 2009. So not 20 years later. Just a little over a decade ago. But yes, it’s still pretty impressive
They have clips to aid their memory
Kobe was possessed in 2009. He was getting that chip by any means
Revenge season fr
Best podcast out!
Stfu 0-3, Kenny u even worser than gio wise in basketball!
@@huangenyu4227 worser? Cmon gang
Worst hooper on yt
Pau just like, "that? Kobe does this in his sleep?" Lol
JJ is right on. I remember that game, I remember that play. When it happened I jumped out my seat. I knew at that point LA had chance. KB was the truth. Great example JJ.
We see these guests on the show, let’s remember how fire JJ is as a host. Each episode is also like a JJ interview and I’m here for it.
Exactly. I know Co-hosts aren't really expected to do much, but Tommy adds little to nothing outside of being super casual.
JJ is the reason I started watching
Jj was overlooked alot during his career, he was arguably one of the best 3 point shooters the game has ever saw during his time, especially while he was in Orlando.
Pau Gasol The Conquistador one of the most underrated players ever
Not true
He was good but Kobe made him immortal 🙌🏾
I see Kobe's name i watch.👀🐍
I see Kobe in a title I click
Kobe with a flash pass under a minute down 5 😂
Ps: Pau described that beautifully lol
Pau
Great interviews, love to hear pros speak about the game and these cool moments you guys can share with us.
I used to say Feed Da Spanish Monster!! Pau was great. About that play JJ before Kobe ever drove, spinned around, or passed he set it up by lulling the defense to sleep because he wasn't driving at the basket he made it appear as if he was going to pull back & wait on the cavalry! He was going parallel to the rim like driving towards the baseline so the defense probably felt like we have 4 guys back & he's going to the sideline this play is over with. But Kobe like the superhero he was did something that they didn't expect. Long live the B.O.A.T. greatest is about accolades but he definitely the Best to ever lace up😉
My man said the BOAT
@@ericbrown7628 that’s gotta be disrespectful 😭
Just now finding this video and I've never related to a video title more than this one- I've been telling my friends and anyone who I talk basketball with for years how underrated this Kobe play is. The combination of the Lakers likely losing this game if they don't score on the possession + how beautiful it is to watch Kobe spin, have 4 Magic players collapse on him, and then pass back to Gasol for the wide open dunk is fantastic.
There was also a narrative back then that Kobe wouldn't pass in situations like this & that he would always force heat-check jumpers, which just made it more satisfying to see him come up with such a beautiful assist in a critical moment in the finals.
Good stuff, JJ!
I loved that fancy pass from Kobe, because it represented how calm him and the team was in that situation, despite being down late in that game. They knew they were the better and more experienced team, and that there was no need to panic.
2008-2009 lakers championship will always be special to me.. Also the 2010..but 2009 was fire.. They decimated all their opponents
Knowing Kobe, I bet he intentionally wanted to be known as the guy who doesn’t pass just to give him an edge in emergency situations like this. He always kept his cards close to his chest. His own teammate didn’t even expect it.
facts
underrated comment
You don’t know Kobe
@@dododump3144 Exactly. No one knows Kobe, but Kobe. You only know what he wants you to know. Unlike LeBron who speaks every word on his mind without giving any thought. That’s why he has the most haters because of the dumb sht that comes out of his mouth 24/7.
Facts. Kobe be thinking outside the box and 100 steps ahead
Great listening to you guys. I’m definitely subscribing.
I wish you would show the clips of the moves you guys are discussing more often throughout the discussion. In slow mo etc
I always liked when players have a podcast or show over sports analysis they asked the better questions & they have a more understanding of things in sports
What a great listen. P Gasol was a consummate teammate and I think he was underrated.
Thank JJ for bringing Pau to the podcast!
The presence of mind! Great break down of the play Paul!
There’s guys that makes me wish they had a championship much after their career than I wanted them to have it during . JJ is at the top of that list for me .
Nah there are guys more deserving but JJ got winning intangibles I give you that
@@rosenamajunas1159 thug rose, the man paid his dues in the league... what would you consider deserving if JJ isn't up there?
@@jackmehoff2503 I didn't say he don't deserve I'm just debating there are more guys deserving than him.
JJ, keep doing that great work. Love it
Ginormous Kobe fan, wished this play was talked about more often. Thank you JJ! #LongLiveBean 🐐
maaaan jj redick is a great commentator i love your podcast jj!! Salute from Turkey :)
Love this channel
A great shooter and now a great interviewer. W’s in the chat for JJ
Damn hearing Jj say that was one of kobe greatest plays just make me wish kobe could’ve been here to hear that and be a guest on the show
Greatly said by Pau
🐐! Legends
I love Pau. One of my absolute favorite players ever.
JJ Redick podcast is 🔥🔥🔥
I could listen to Pau all day. Euro.. NBA.. Olympics. Seen it all.
I absolutely loved every minute and second of this podcast! Great job!! 😌❤️💯👏🏽
What I wouldn’t give to have been able to listen to a JJ - Kobe interview.
This was a stellar team my oh my
Been saying this since the moment i watched it live. They went on a sick run after that pass
That's crazy cuz I remember it was a tough series but I forgot just how close it was. Thanks guys! #GoLakers
JJs knowledge as an analyst is so underrated
One of the best passes I ever seen
Kobe is the best player ever… not greatest not in career stats but I’m talking about straight skill no one is a skilled as he was
All Facts
Facts..straight up the most skillfull player ever..
@@ntwpodcast4100 kyrie maybe
@Youbig Dummy He's the most skilled rather you like it or not.
@Youbig Dummy what are you talking about? he never shot a low percentage
Kobe is the goat
😆
Kobe does pass
Kobe is the greatest player to ever touch a basketball!! I feel sorry for anyone that wasn’t able to witness his greatness!! There will never be a player again with his level of greatness!!
@Youbig Dummy & Facts 😂😂😂
Kobeeeee!
Man I just hope we have Kobe still, being interviewed to react on this play.
Pau Gasol is such a fantastic individual. Left his medical doctorate to play BBall and went on to win a championship with one of the most historic franchises ever. The Kobe Lakers would have never been able to get it done without Pau. What a legend in his own right.
instinctiveness* is the best word to describe Kobe pass, basketball iq so high he saw the glimpse of pau on the spin and the instincts took over and dropped it off. The greats have the best instincts on the court, due to such a high iq of the game... respect greatness
Pau looks like a younger Phil Jackson
Kobe is a GOAT
Remember the crossover behind the back to gasol legendary
As a lifelong Lakers fan we love Pau and wish we treated him better in his latter years with us
Kobes done this play for Shaq multiple times 😆
Kobe's acuity in that spin move play speaks highly of his basketball IQ!
Yep that play was huge.
For as much as Kobe gets the “scorer” nod, that man led the lakers in assists every year since he started except the years GP was there. Most assist by a SG ever. And his defense was all time. Only Kobe and Jordan ever won scoring title and all team first defense in the same season, btw 00-2010 kobe won like 8 all nba 1st defense nods. He was just different
I see a thumbnail of the 2009 NBA Finals Game 4 I watch!
Kobe and the Lakers came back from that 08 loss with a vengeance. He was a straight killer in the 2009 season.
Remember this play like it was yesterday
I know MJ was GOATED, but as an 33 year old who started watching ball in 1999 Kobe was my MJ. Man was amazing!
i love pau, he and kobe's synergy were unmatched and i can't wait for pau to get his jersey retired right there with kobe's cause there is no titles in 09-2010 without pau
That was a legit all time great play. Kobe wasn’t just a scorer. He was a basketball player
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That play that Jj Reddick spoke on of Kobe driving to the rim with the spin move kick back to Pau for the dunk in THE FINALS is the type of plays that the Mamba made through out his career, plays in which M.J himself wouldn't try is what separates Kobe from the rest and those type of plays is one of the reasons why Kobe is the 🐐 in my opinion.
PAU❗#CLASSACT
As Kobe was spinning he see's Pau running down to the hoop. All you need is a split second to see a player.
If C. Lee makes that shot, it’s a long series. I was so happy.
Hello, I am Argentine and I would be very excited if you could try to interview Manu Ginobili, thanks
mamba forever
Yo JJ, Kobe Is the true Goat
Kobe's last game against the Utah Jazz
Fisher 3 got the glory but this play was it for me. We should've lost this game and homeboy dribbled 1v4 into traffic, 360 and behind the back to a trailing center? I used to try to look for this play on TH-cam it was hard to find, that's how underappreciated that play was.
When showing plays pls use slow motion
Kobe trusted Gasol 100%
That Magic team was very good... They are the reason we never got the Kobe VS Lebron Championship Series
First time looking at the play doesn't seem like he affected the ball. Now looking back at it I wonder if his impact with the rim affected the bounce the ball had off the backboard. Highly probably tbh with the force Pau was moving.
JJ Redick: Please do a review pod cast on this point that cost you a ring.
2009 NBA Finals should have been won by the Orlando Magics.
Stan Van Gundi favored bringing back point guard ball hug Jameer Nelson who had been out for most of the season.
Rafer Austin at the point had been playing great ball with Howard and Turkoglu.
I love this but I wish they would’ve talk bout when Kobe switch up on Dwight Howard for a important defensive possession 🖤 🐍 🐐
If Paul was treated fairly by the refs instead of all of the physical play he sustained with limited fouls called on his behalf. Then this guy would have abused most every center in the Nba with his tremendous offensive skill set. He was a monster.
PAU Actually was the best power forward those 2 yrs they went back to back finals.
Kobe groomed him to becoming the second best Garnett was owning him 2008
Fuckin pau man... adddddd something! Jj is giving us gold and your just like yea..that was crazyyyyyyuhhhhh.... i dnt reallyyyyuhh..think about this everrrr..
Care dammit!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The moment he fell out the sky
thought that was delonte west for a second😬
When Kobe grabbed Harden and Battier during a free throw and just threw them aside is his most underrated play
3:20 FOR KOBE
How they show Courtney Lee miss layup but not the Kobe pass