Jon Snow meets Daenerys Targaryen (Part 3)
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Ser Davos is the greatest hype man in all realities.
what was the episode ?
"Ser Davos is the real mvp"
@@Stiller this is season 7 episode 3 “The Queen’s Justice”
He should be hyping my stocks
His hypeman moment peak at the Iron Bank. Bro was doing tricks on Stannis 😭
When Davos starts talking about jon here, it gives me fuckin chills dude. Such a great dialogue. Too bad it couldn’t stay this good till the end
There was always glimmers of the glory days hidden here and there still
Davos' whole speech is him putting Dany down a few pegs, with all the titles and flexing she did earlier, letting her know that Jon isn't some peasant or lowly man petitioning something. He is a descendant of House Stark and a Man of the Wall and North. The Northern Houses named him as their SOLE LEADER despite him having a bastard name, meaning he is her EQUAL. Davos is letting her know that she needs to show respect and that Jon is the most reasonable person she could have interacted with.
I think the final season gets a pretty unfair amount of hate. A Knight of Westeros was great, The Long Night was a fantastically immersive episode. A huge criticism I kept seeing was that Daenerys goes crazy out of nowhere. Which I never understood. How many times does a person have to talk about, taking what is hers with fire and blood and destroying cities, before it isn't a shock that she takes what was hers with fire and blood and destroyed a city. All in all, it was a good season of television, if not on par with the best of GoT.
@@snerdterguson I literally can’t tell if you’re trolling or are just unaware of how terrible the writing is. A knight of Westeros is pretty good, but the long night was god awful. First you can’t see a thing, which like “oh yeah it’s darkness it makes sense” that’s a stupid excuse. It was supposed to be dark as hell in the battle of helms deep but they made a little thing called the suspension of disbelief so you can actually see what’s happening. Arya killing the night king was out of fuckin nowhere and just uproots the entire setup of the Azhor Ahai prophecy that set the entire series into motion. The decisions made by the characters was so dumb like having the Dothraki just blindly charge the army of the dead. And yes Dany does absolutely go insane out of nowhere. While making her conquest wasn’t exactly quick and clean she only ever fought in battles and killed leaders who refused to submit to her rule just as Aegon did, then out of nowhere she heard the people of kings landing surrendering to her with the toll of the bell and just goes insane and murders thousands if not tens of thousands of innocent people instead of just flying Drogon to the red keep and burning cersei alive? Where exactly did her just massacring civilians come from?
@@MattcraftMSTR “you can’t see a thing”
Get a better tv. I watched the same episode as everyone else and had no issues. It was dark, because… gasp!!! It was the long NIGHT.
You, like many others, require things to be just how you want them. Wish it stayed truer to Martins ideas? Blame Martin. He had plenty of time to write while the first 4 seasons happened. You probably whined avoid Daenerys going crazy out of nowhere too. Because her constantly talking about destroying cities and taking what was hers with fire and blood wasn’t a hint.
Not sure why but I love that line so much “I mean no offense your grace, but I don’t know you..”
Gives me chills
I was thinking the same thing…
I came just for this line,it’s genuinely a real answer a person would give
@@pimp8946 so true
Lol because she needed to be knocked down that high horse a bit and remember not everyone cares about her family's history
Ser Davos had this amazing innate ability to use powerful rhetoric when defending a cause or person he supported. He does for Stannis at the Iron Bank, he does it for the Starks at Bear Island, and does it here for Jon Snow. Arguably the best right hand man in the show and so glad he survived. Such a great character
Every party needs a high charisma character
true hhaaha @@snerdterguson
Sir Davos is my favorite asoiaf character. A commoner constantly out of water mingling with lords and kings, constantly doing his best for what he believes is right.
He was the prince that was promised, ice and fire. It was tragedy what they did to this show..
Ice and fire. Jon was the ice. Daenerys was the fire…
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion No, he was both, a Targaryen raised in the cold North.
@@Alastair_ would that make him a frost drake then?
i don't want it!
Still not canon, we must wait to the books
Jon saying "I don't know you" was the realest thing in this whole show XD
Daenerys was standing in Jon’s face mad and he did not give a fuck.
I actually don’t know if he could stay chill like that if Drogon was behind Daenerys at that time..
Back when Jon still had his balls
Then he became “My Queen” Jon Snow 😒
@@jordanjones7686 It's like Prince Harry's marriage to Meghan Markle.
One day D and D will pay for ruining Game of Thrones
@@mondeepengti8733their chilling in their mansions with their millions keep crying
I hate how daenerys just ignores everything he says about the threats of the dead and just continues on about her being the rightfull queen
In all fairness, why would she believe him realistically. As far as everyone who hasn't seen it or is close to Jon is concerned its a legend that might not even be true of creatures from 8000 years ago that hadn't been seen since. If a man you had literally met minutes prior and and said all that about something from 8000 years ago there was no proof of and hadn't been seen since its unlikely you'd believe them either so she can hardly be blamed. It's easy a viewer to go why don't they believe it when it's clearly true but that's because we as the viewer have seen things the large majority of these characters have not, in all reality until she saw it herself, or proof emerged, she had no reason to believe it and the throne/rebellions would remain the priority. I'd add this can be applied to ALL characters not just Daenerys.
@@jamesadams2033she literally seen wizards in essos and she was literally reborn in fire with 3 dragons, I don't think dead men is that much of a stretch
@@SergyMilitaryRankings Those things already currently existed and were known about though and blood magic was already known about prior to using it to hatch the dragons, the dead men hadn't been seen for something like 8000 years.
@@jamesadams2033 seen . You said it yourself self. Winterfell knew , winter is coming
That's because she was just a spoilt arrogant-brat and a pouty-child, her Father murdered thousands of innocent people, including Jon's Grandfather and Uncle, and her eldest-brother started the War that gave her Family what they deserved!
Jon never should've bent the knee, Targaryens are nothing but trouble and are hated by everyone...Jon should've just told Danerys that the North will never bow to her and if she didn't listen to him, everyone would die and the World of Men would fall!!!!!
1:33 YES, GO JON!!! *this* is the jon snow we should have seen in season 8.
He turned into a simp after that
He did not turned but writer's did @@arifdlgr
@@arifdlgr D and D Kinda forget that like bruh
1:14-1:15 Jon got sick of them talking about bending the knee. 😂😂
Its funny that she whined about him not showing respect. He was talking to her while she was just talking at him.
He took a knoife in heart for his people
Ser Davos can be anybodys hypeman and they look cool immediately
Imagine him introducing you to your date. Guaranteed success!
Only Paul Heyman tops him as a hypeman. In fact imagine Davos played by Paul Heyman
They could’ve developed the dialogue so much more to make Jon’s claims seem urgent and desperate. “There’s no time for any of this” followed by “You met Jeor Mormont, the previous Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch, he fought them at the fist of the first men and he lost. I fought them at Hardhome and I lost, almost dying fighting one of them. The wall is severely undermanned and the Night King could strike at any moment, there’s tens of thousands of undead people in his army, countless undead beasts, we need the dragonglass now, Cersei can wait”
1:27 Finally someone has the fucking balls to stand up to Dany and say no
She should've torched his ass.
Everyone else: witches and dragons exist
Jon snow: the night king and his undead army are coming
Everyone else: nonsense
My brain cells: ☠️
Magic and magical creatures doesn't mean that undead ones are a given.
@@Bronzescorpion still it’s pretty annoying to watch
4 POVs sharing a dialogue, I can't wait to see this in the books
I think you might have to wait though.
Might never see it
“The lords of the north placed their trust in me to lead them and I will continue to do so as well as I can”
I would say "man, there is some proof that the great dialogue lasted into season 7" but in all honesty, with this scene and Olenna's death, this episode might be the last in the series to have genuinely great dialogue
I’d argue the scene in s8 e2 at the fireplace had good dialogue. That was one of the few genuinely good scenes in season 8.
@Cooper Hurst this is a good point. That and the "Jaime trial" scene from that episode are good dialogues. Thank you Bryan Cogman for giving us one last gasp of old Thrones
I felt like the dialogues in this scene had so much potential to be better too - like it used to be in the older seasons.:(
@@matthewfloyd9524 You do realize D&D help with the writing and final cut as showrunners? lol
@@blueskyx1587 It is better like the older seasons
From all the speeches in this series, Ser. Davos gives the best ones!
Jon: we mus..
Danny:Bend the knee
Jon: we must stop the great evil
Danny: I am a targ, I got here because I am a bad bitch
Jon: i am being serious
Dany: I am the rightful queen of the 7 kingdoms
Jon: WE don’t have time for this.
Dany: you are in open rebellion.
SHUT UP DANY NOBODY CARES!
In all fairness, why would she believe him realistically. As far as everyone who hasn't seen it or is close to Jon is concerned its a legend that might not even be true of creatures from 8000 years ago that hadn't been seen since. If a man you had literally met minutes prior and and said all that about something from 8000 years ago there was no proof of and hadn't been seen since its unlikely you'd believe them either so she can hardly be blamed. It's easy a viewer to go why don't they believe it when it's clearly true but that's because we as the viewer have seen things the large majority of these characters have not, in all reality until she saw it herself, or proof emerged, she had no reason to believe it and the throne/rebellions would remain the priority. I'd add this can be applied to ALL characters not just Daenerys.
@@jamesadams2033 I find it funny that she has 3 legends at her command and don't even think about believing in his words. Ego slowly kills a person's mind.
@@jamesadams2033 It's not that she didn't believe him, it's that she isn't even listening to him and is having a completely different conversation. She's so obsessed with getting him to bend the knee and swear fealty to her that she's ignoring everything he's saying.
@@MHScratShe eventually did. This is Dany trying not to show weakness and asserting her power onto a complete stranger.
This show was so good
What episode is this
Once upon a time.
@@jaronabernathy9688 7x3
I want Davos to read off my achievements when im dead and my body is lit on fire
This John snow we all wanted
Before all the "i don't want it" and "you are my queen"
I like it when jon stopped ser davos when he was talking about taking a knife to the heart because it would seem far fetched that they're talking to someone who rose from the dead
I am certain that isn't why Jon stopped him. Jon isn't that strategic when it comes to politics and conversations, in fact he can often say and do things that isn't beneficial to him in the situation.
He stops Davos because it is personal to him.
@@BronzescorpionI think it still terrifies him that he came back from the dead.
What is dead may never die
Jon "I don't give a f*ck" Snow
Davos was one of those POV, the first time through you were like please fast forward but as you re-read you realize his chapters in the future will be amazing
I love how this parallels to mance rayder. Neither are gonna put the lives of their people to fight another’s war.
Ser Davos, any time. Best man you can have by your side. Stellar performance by Cunningham. I buy every single word he utters, every gaze he casts. 👌🏼
Davos: "You don't believe him. I understand, it sounds like nonsense"
Jon: "Thanks, Davos".
lol like, where the fuck was this guy for the rest of the series!?
John didn't declare himself king of the north, he was chosen by his people.
"your claim to the throne rests entirely on your father's name, and my own father fought to overthrow the mad king" this line is important in explaining why Jon Snow is not really the hair to the Iron Throne because his father fought a battle to overthrow the Targaryen dinasty, which ended up with Aerys II.
No it doesn’t lol. Jon and everyone in the room doesn’t even know of Jon true parents at this point. As far as they are concerned he’s Ned starks bastard.
@@mohammedismail147 I didn't mean to say that they know Jon's parentage at that point. I am talking about the storytelling. For example, the dream of Ned about the Tower of Joy is in the first book. Far before this scene. And that dream is crucial for the J=R+L theory. In fact, this theory has been long known even before the show was made. And as it stands it is currently not confirmed in the books yet!
@@davidebasile9422 my bad then. I didn’t know that’s what you meant. I know that’s it’s not confirmed in the books yet Jon is still dead in the books
@@mohammedismail147 yes, long time waiting for Winds of Winter 🙂
“All those things you dont believe in, he faced those things. He fought those things for the good of his people.”
Sheesh
1:27 Jon went from - “Im not bowing to you, I don’t even know you!” to “YoU’re MaH QuEen!” within less than a season, god that is depressing.
We need that jon snow series. Thay ending can still make sense and be exceptable if jon snow is still the chosen one against whatever threat and sits on the throne.
First time Dany ever wanted to chase a Man
And here is what I see Jon as being during the proper season 8, not the pathetic simp of season 8.
1:57 God, it just goes in one ear out the other
Ser Davos stepped in and said that’s enough!
Only sigma males are openly rebellious
Jon Snow is such a better person than Daenerys. Even in the books I like Jon so much more. I think Daenerys is just being set up to be a tyrant, though she thinks she's a hero she really isn't.
I really hope GRRM finishes the books 😢
I need some resolution!
Yes, freeing the slaves does not make her a hero. Up until The Bells, everything she did was villainous. Jon never had to do terrible things. He never had to kill his own brother of the Night’s Watch to convince the Free Folks he was down. He also didn’t behead a boy, no matter how justified. Jon was not perfect, just like Daenerys. They both did awful things and they both did great things. No matter how much you don’t like it, they would’ve been great rulers together but Jon didn’t want it, remember.
@@Kadasberry11 bro the boy literally killed him. Fkn killed him
Probably my favorite scene in the entire show. So disappointed the way they ended his (and her) story. The "subvert expectations" philosophy has been poorly used in hollywood in my opinion. I wouldn't hold my breath on the books correcting this huge mistake either.
The reason this scene is great is also its downfall.
Jon faces the same quandary Mance did: ''if I bend the knee, the people that crowned me king will denounce me.'' This is excellent writing
It would have been so great if the dialogue reflected this conondrum. Jon could have told them about Mance, knowing, finally ''if you don't know by now, there's no point explaining.''
If he bent the knee to a foreign queen, the people that once followed no longer will. It's that simple. It really is that simple. Yet the writers failed us. That is the Achilles' Heel of this scene. Jon can finally understand why Mance chose to die, why Mance couldn't bend the knee, knowing how high the stakes are... The world is about to end and it all depends on taking a vow or some other gesture as bending the knee. That seems ludicrious. Yet it has come to this. I spite the writers for not emphasizing this parallel. This is where Jon understood Mance, if he didn't already. If he kneels, the North wouldn't follow, making kneeling more than worthless. Which it is. A gesture to appease someone so high on their own fumes they can't recognize the ground they intend to rule.
Bro you explained this perfectly
This whole conversation was so bizarre. It’s like everything Jon and Davos said flew over Dany and Tyrion’s heads. 🤨
2:00
No. Youre. Not.
By conquest youre gone.
Of you wanna start over. Coolio. But no, youre not!
Ser Davos started talking that Shit 😂
This speech is tied with the king of the North speech ❤
Sir Davos matched that little introduction in the beginning with cold truths and then synched it all by emphasing that he was CHOOSEN by the people (as he is a bastard i. The tv show, he has no claims: this changes in the books) instead of claiming "a birth rite" lmao 😂
Everyone needs a Ser Davos beside them.
If theyd never gone north, the night king would never have gotten a dragon, and never gotten past the wall. That being said, he can see the future so maybe it was unavoidable
How was they going to defend wall bro🤷 just with fire😂 they didn't have enough dragon glass or Valryrien Steel to defend it🤔🤦
And how tf would they defend the wall against hundreds of thousand dead guys 😂
"there's no time for that" " i ve looked the night king in the eye"
why don't the children just stop playing the game of thrones , ThE NiGhT kInG !!!!!
Thinking on it I am curious how Daenerys expected to get the Starks to join them. Out of all the houses, they would be the hardest to bring into the fold aside from maybe the Lannisters.
I think she expected Jon to be wanting allies against the inevitable retaliation from Cersei, and thus would be amicable to bending the knee.
He might well have been, if the Long Night wasn't taking up his concern. Jon isn't stranger to making hard, unpopular choices for his perceived greater good, and it doesn't sound like he had anything against the Targaryens really.
@@TheUndyingCrystalin the Books he was actually a big Fan of them and kept roleplaying them as a kid.
0:35 is such a underrated scene Jon looks a bit uncomfortable mainly because his whole life due to his last name he was told he wouldn’t be important and now he’s racked up so much accolades he looks like he’s experiencing imposter syndrome
This scene perfectly illustrates the problem with Dany's character. She was not a queen. She was not the heir to the iron throne. she was not the ruler of the seven kingdoms. She was an entitled, pouty girl who thought she was owed the world because of her last name. I would go as far to say that nobody would even give a shit about her if she did not have three fully grown dragons. She would have died in Mereen or even sooner.
LMAO tell me you didn’t understand shit about her character without telling me that
@@anisslamaangar5502 What did I say that was incorrect?
You have a point,
but to say she has no claim to the crowned is not fair. She has just as much rights to it as anybody else's and not just because of her bloodline
but by her struggles and trial to get where she is and not to mention Dragons. But you're right she should show so more humility and respect, especially if she wants it
return
Me watching this for the first time:
Wow, these two really hate each other!
it will never work out!
Jon is the man!!
Which episode is it?
Dany is not dumb, why do they make her look dumb here. Jon just said her family was overthrown. Then she says The Seven Kingdoms is hers by right. Sigh 😓
Shit i just realized jon is talking about trying to save the realm from the night king the whole time and they are only talking about bending the knee. Says alot of their priorities.
Reminds me of stark focused on arresting the team while cap had to fight his own team just to save people.
Which season is this
I still dont know why John Snow die and is resurrected😂😂
How can you be the rightful queen when your family was overthrown, that doesnt make any sense
Daenerys is like “Bend the knee! Bend the knee! Bend the knee! Bend the knee! Bend knee! Bend knee! Bendknee! Bendknee! Bendy! Bendy! Bendy!
But seriously it’s really tiresome how she expects people in Westeros to just submit to her without her earning it like Jon did
I forget something but wasn't Tyrion warned her about that? about not going to westeros?
This dialogue sucks. "I, I, I," from all the characters. This is the dialogue form of telling, not showing. A much better and convincing counterpoint from Jon would have been: "An 11 year old daughter leads the last of a village which hosts an army of evercharging bear-warriors. The entire civilization beyond the Wall has now climbed it and they sit, loosely leashed, ready for the next foe to ravage. These are men of the cold. Hardened, true men, each one twice as seasoned as any of your horse-riders. And they claim what I claim, they have fought what I've fought. They tell tales, I'm sure, as far reaching and superstitious as any have heard before. Your Dothraki never believed in dragons, and now fight beside them. They are led by one. The men of the North thought the White Walkers a tale of old wives, and now face them in battle. For centuries, they thought the Night's Watch was where exiles were sent to run errands. Now they follow its Commander."
I get George didn't write the end, so it's his fault ultimately, but how hard is it to go beyond screenwriting 101? Every scene of this season is like CW writing: breaking the fourth wall to remind the audience directly of where the characters are coming from rather than rewarding attentive audience members, which was the expectation set in seasons 1-3. It's like the writers grew tired of the show and just wanted it end.
He wants help from the list powerful person, all her army’s and dragons but is too self centered and egoistic to simply bent the knee?
Seems to me that it isnt important enough for him and he is the little child playing shows with his ego
* most powerful
Real Egoistic One Is Danny here.... I'm The Queen, I'm the Queen Sh!t
why tf would he bend the knee for a queen he doesnt know and doesnt believe him lmfao
What episode was this??
My mans, did you not watch all 8 seasons? Lol
@@datboi9648 There is no eighth season in Ba Sing Se.
@@premiumheadpats4150 good one bro
season 7 episode 3
god i hate Daenerys
This is when I started hating Daenerys. I could see what she was going to become even before the shitty writers wrote it, as did several others. This petulance and horrific character development, as if she learned NOTHING from her hardships and council, was a hard right turn from the direction she had been going.