My wife pointed out that the triplets got the powers they need for the community to thrive. They had a doctor, someone to control weather for crops, and someone to see if danger was near.
They also got the perfect husbands. I am surprised that they did not mention this. Pepa has a very volatile mood and her husband is perfect calming her down, he seems very positive and calm. Julieta can heal people and we see the dad getting hurt all the time. I love how they complement each other
But pepa can’t control the weather, her emotions do. She has to be sad to water the crops and helping out will probably make her feel better a bit so then there wouldn’t be as much rain. But she also can basically make a hurricane appear by accident. She is more dangerous than helpful
Bruno was just so done with his gift it was almost funny. When he showed mirabel the prophecy, you can he how hopeful he was for a good outcome. Then they saw the two sisters hugging. He probably thinking, awww how sweet and the smile of his face afterwords was so adorable. Then Mirabel comes in and screams her sisters name in disgust. Looks over to him seething in anger and suddenly Bruno just up and tossed the green tablet, shaddering it while saying "everytime" in the saddest way possible. I feel so bad for Bruno.
I am glad it was Mirabel that found Bruno again because she could relate and understand his burdens and sadness. They both were outcasts from the family and felt they were better off staying away in order to maintain the family’s happiness. They both felt useless. The difference is that Mirabel did not give up which inspired Bruno to come back. I also liked how Bruno saves Mirabel even though he originally dod not want to be found. That is family for you.
It's a generally accepted theory that Mirabel is the next candleholder for the family. She'll take care of the miracle itself once Abuela is gone. That's why she didn't get a gift. Her and Abula's "gifts" are to hold the family together. That's why they're the best at communicating with Casita.
In addition, Casita didn't reveal this fact so Mirabels own natural gifts would grow on their own without the heavy weight of expectation of being the next leader of the family deterring her.
This was also being shown in first arts for the animation i think? Casita was meant to change its looks on the inside depending on how Abuela looked and how she was feeling. Later in the movie this was also suppose to happen when for Mirabell.
They're the best communicating with the Casita and through the movie you also see Mirabel is also the best at communicating with the family members and getting their personal opinions on things that were previously kept inside. This helped to diffuse the tension in the family and also made everyone happier and stronger together.
I would like to point out that Dolores’s verse in “We don’t talk about Bruno” is littered with clues about Bruno still being there in the house and Bruno is LITERALLY in the background during Dolores’s verse
I saw a comment like this on the TH-cam song and totally agree. Dolores (and also Isabela) say towards the end during Bruno's song "It's fine", both of which having complicated love interests happening and whatnot. Easily noticable on the lyrical background video.
It's also possible that Bruno in the background was actually Camilo, which would probably make more sense given that Bruno doesn't want to be seen, and that Camilo's verse immediately follows Dolores'. Also, Bruno's eyes only glow green when he's performing a vision--but when Camilo imitates Bruno, his eyes are always glowing green, as they are in the background of the song. That could simply be a stylistic choice, though.
I'm from colombia and I'm not sure that what ends up making abuela and pedro leave their home is a "revolution" In Colombia there is a concept of "forced displacement" by violence, no matter the origin of it, and the movie makes an effort to not give the one perpetrating the violence any voice or reason because that's how it is in real life for many people in rural places, you are told to leave or face the consequences, be it they want your land, your animals, you are teaching people how to think or have an opinion that opposes theirs. Its crude, inexplicable and heart breaking how 15-20 seconds of a movie showcase a problematic that has existed for many many years.
I've seen it thrown around that the conflict they're running from in the beginning is the thousand days war. I also saw some official concept art for the film which included Pedro's year of death as 1901, which lines up with that conflict. I do agree with you though on that the perpetrators of violence aren't given a face or a voice because it isn't really important who they are or what they stood for, since their actions ruined the lives of so many
27:15 Actually in we don’t talk about Bruno, Dolores says he told her the man of her dreams would be betrothed (not married) to another. So technically Bruno’s vision was right because Isabella and Mariano were betrothed but never actually got married.
@@BabyGirlTiny you're correct, but they were basically promised to each other by their families, so one might argue they were as good as engaged until Mirabel 'helped'.
Mirabel is to become the next Matriarch, she is in perfect symmetry with her grandmother: in space, her room is facing grandmother's, they are the only ones shown giving orders to the house, they are the only ones without specific powers and, while everyone else's clothes represent their powers, they both have the butterflies representing the miracle, they are the guardians of the house and the miracle (I think the candle is within grandmas' room, since the window is above her door, which will be at some point Mirabel's room, as it is the only room without a specific name on the door, but a title, is not Alma's room, is Abuela's room).
Another thing backing the "candle inside Abuela's room" theory is that Mirabel had to climb along the roof to get to the candle. Why couldn't she just walk to it from inside the casita, if it was just standing in it's own room in the attic/top floor? The only reason that makes sense to me is that it was inside Abuela's room, and thereby she couldn't get inside unnoticed. (also helped by the fact that Abuela just appears by the candle. We don't hear her door open, and Mirabel doesn't react to, or notice her, exiting her room).
The doors show the power. Aubela's door is her holding the candle. "That's how Aubela became an Aubela" line in the first song, makes me wonder, what was written on the door BEFORE she became a grandmother?
Yes yes yes! I completely agree. I think Mirabel is Abuela's direct narrative and familial foil, in opposition to her because of Abuela's own sense of not being worthy of the miracle herself. I also believe that the Casita is the spirit of Abuelo Pedro, and that's why it is so happy to play with the kids and to make Mirabel still feel loved and heard.
I really wish they had dived deeper into the aunt and the pressure associated with her power. As a people pleaser with who deals with depression the whole “it’s ok to not be happy all the time” concept is a hard one to accept, but imagine if you NOT being perfectly happy all the time could cause storms such as hurricanes. That sort of pressure to be happy all the time, never one negative emotion, would be unbearable.
I agree this . I noticed immediately... I wonder if because they gave her bags under her eyes because of shoving it all down. They hoped you'd get it without the focus... Show don't tell, type of thing. But I think it maybe missed by the people who need to hear that. It's weird cause she wears her emotions on her sleep but she can't take them to their conclusion... She is more an external emotional meter for the family to show how everyone isn't dealing with their personal emotions and just shoving them down.
Seems less like depression to me, and more like an anxiety disorder. I've dealt with both, and that feeling of not just obsessing over "this is making me anxious" but also being anxious about being anxious can drive you up the wall batty!
And her family admonishes her for having a cloud, she's not allowed to feel anxious when she can't find her son. Like, how is she going to not feel anxiety when her child is missing, even if he's still in the house?
I think Encanto would really suite an animated series, like Tangled got. It already has a large cast, and there’s a lot of shenanigans I suppose they could get up to within the family and town. I would love to see Camilo, Dolores, and the parents explored more.
@@moonsbies oh yeah, I wouldn't expect a song every episode they didnt even do that for the Tangled series, I'm saying any songs they do should at least have Lin as a consultant on.
I’m surprised you all didn’t talk about the significance of the butterflies! Mirabel has butterflies all over her outfit, the butterfly is on the candle, in the vision that her and bruno follow, the swarm of butterflies when she and abuela connect at the end, and the song at the end is about caterpillars turning into butterflies.
Yes. And they are yellow butterflies, a nod to Gabriel Garcia Marquez (not sure of spelling, sorry), the author of 100 Years of Solitude and Love in the Time of Cholera- he used the image of yellow butterflies a lot
Yes! also la Abuela has a big chatelaine with a massive golden butterfly, which shows that symmetry with Mirabel, which shows us that she will be the next matriarch as no one else has butterflies in their outfits
You've overlooked the most important one. I have finally discovered the connection between Mirabel and Abuela. (apart from both of them being able to talk to the Casita)....THE BUTTERFLY. Each member of the Madrigal family who has a gift has embroidery on their clothes that represents their gift....and each one is as unique as the Gift that person possesses. BUT....if you look at the scene where Luisa is panicking about losing her gift, you see a chain at Abuela's waist....WITH A BUTTERFLY ON IT at the top. The butterfly is shown in three places during this movie....etched in the miracle candle, stitched into Mirabel's outfit....and on Abuela's chain at the top....and then the butterflies explode in a a golden shower when Mirabel and Abuela are talking by the river. I think this is PROOF that she and Mirabel share the SAME gift....their connection to the Casita and the Miracle Candle. That was why Mirabel's door didn't work at first...but notice at the end, when Antonio hands Mirabel the doorknob to the Casita....it has an M engraved on it (and every other family member who has a special door has their first initial engraved on THEIR doors as well) and when Mirabel placed the handle on the door....it GLOWED, just like Antonio's door did. THAT was her gift.
I really like how though Isabella is the typical Disney princess, she has the most indigenous look out of all the characters which is breaking stereotypes in her own right
I love that too, and by the way she is really living up to the Disney princess ideal, my nieces all LOVE her despite the fact that most of the movie doesn't show her in the best light.
@@christmastiger yes! My daughters immediately gravitated to Isabelle. We had a convo about paying attention to how a person behaves versus how they look and present themselves. Isabelle may look like a perfect princess but the way she treats Mirabel (and Dolores in the Bruno song) shows her true colors.
One thing that struck me so hard when re-watching this movie with some friends is how Antonio's first line in the movie is a very worried "What if it doesn't work?". Because he's the one next in line to get a door, he's also grown up with an immense pressure seeing how other's treat Mirabel, feeling like he HAS to get a power or be pushed to the side as she's been. He's been robbed of the chance to have any excitement about it, just anxiety :(
Worst part? I don't think it's how the others would treat him, he's specifically scared of Abuela. Because this is his birthday, a gift should be a wonderful thing, but instead he went into hiding. He's probably heard all week how everything needs to go "perfect" and the next morning we see the first thing he does with his power is try to please her specifically since she comes to the table already wondering how to put his power to use. And then, despite Abuela telling Mirabel to stay out of things, we see Antonio's animals helping her. Even though he doesn't reveal he knew what was going on until they needed a space to work in, I'm sure he knew since the night of his party that something was wrong but was too scared to show it because of how Abuela talked down to Mirabel when she got caught.
About Dolores, Bruno was absolutly right about his vision, Isabella was betrophed to Dolores's true love. Also you have to remember that Bruno got his gift at 5yo. A small child running around trying his gift or asking innocent questions. If he tells you that you are gonna break a leg but you don't know when is worse than suddenly breaking a leg. Can you try to escape your own future or do you live in fear waiting for it to happen. Isabella's life is bound by the expectation of Abuela, Luisa sees her own worth in her power and nothing else and nobody places any expectation in Mirabel as she is a normal human. Also everyone who has powers has them embroided on their clothes Bruno has Hourglasses, Julietta cooking utensils, Pepa has suns, Isabella has flowers, Dolores has soundwaves, Luisa has weights and Camilo has chameleons for example. Mirabel shares butterflies with Abuela, the candle and there are butterflies on her grandfathers portrait. So Mirabel seems to be the next Keeper of the Miracle in a way or the next Matriarch.
to add to the butterfly: a butterfly lead Abuela’s sight to Pedro pretty much. and the butterfly was important with the vision/when Mirabel mended things with Abuela. literally a kaleidoscope of butterflies flies around then when they embrace. the song lyrics in those moments are talking of caterpillars and butterflies which symbolizes the transformations for the family/Mirabel becoming the next Matriarch.
So basically her power is being a Disney Princess according to Enchanted (which translate very closely to Encantada or having an "enchantment"-> Encanto)
The problem is is that the singing and dancing still happened after the gifts were lost. However, you do get to see what her gift actually is later in the movie
"no one sees this as strange, including her" hilariously, Mirabel does see it as strange. If you watch her during Isabella and Luisa's numbers being the more surreal sections, Mirabel looks confused or scared or trying to grab onto things which characters don't normally do during the "fun" songs in other movies. Usually they get tossed around playfully because these moments are supposed to be full of whimsey.
The colour thing I think is to help the audience quickly see who belongs on each side of the family. Merabels family are all wearing cool tones.. so blues and purples. Pepa's family are wearing warm colours like yellow, oranges and reds. I think is like a film shortcut to help the audience figure out who is who while we don't know their names. Also as a bonus merabels Mum wears blue and Pepa wears yellow and Bruno is in the middle with green. Think that's cool as yellow and blue make green. Fun
I don't think they want people to keep track of the families though. Keeping track would have been so much easier if the intro song had been slightly less chaotic. I like that it was chaotic because obviously Mirabel was trying to distract from herself, but I didn't actually learn anything about the family, which was the point. It did make the family feel a lot bigger than it was, which I think was intentional, but it was really confusing so if they really wanted us to know who belonged to which family they should have tried to show us from the beginning. It's only 2 families of 5, Bruno and Abuela, it's really not that hard to keep track of but they made it overwhelming so that you don't even try. If they don't want you to keep track because they want the family to feel bigger than it is why would they color code it to help the audience keep track? I guess maybe to give you a bit of balance?
I also thought it was interesting how Isabella's was a really light lavender purple until after she realized she didn't have to do as abuela had wanted her to and in the end she became blue like the rest of her family rather than the mix of abuela and her family
my thought was that Casita is actually Abuelo Pedro (his soul), since the house was build on his sacrifice and it has its own character. I just like the thought that he is also watching over his family, and still being a part of it in this way.
Also like I never see people mention this but the butterfly is seen when they’re showing the grandparents meet like across the crowd so I kind of interpreted the miracle as like his essence or something and when the abuela started to kind of put the pressure on the family it was his way of giving her like a reality check she even says it at the end when they’re in the river like “i’ve been asking Pedro to help me but he gave me you”
Dolores literally sings “always leaving the family with prophecies they couldn’t understand” in the Bruno song. I think his gift was just really hard for him and as he said “wasn’t really helping the family” witch is the cardinal sin to the Abuela
This also speaks to how our inner blessings, if not accepted and offered love and comprehension, can easily turn into curses that prevent us from being who we really are.
I'm glad you touched on Pepa with the anxiety spiral idea, I feel like the impact on her is sometimes overlooked compared to Mirabel, Luisa and Isobela. Spending your whole life not allowing yourself to feel any negative emotions for fear of causing a (in her case literal) storm must be so tough.
mirabel's "power" is pretty explicitly casita itself. she's the one who is in sync with the house the most, and she's the only other family member aside from abuela alma who's associated with butterflies (even baby mirabel's celebration outfit has butterflies all over it). the candle has the butterfly emblazoned on it, alma has butterfly motifs in her skirt, mirabel has butterflies on her skirt and on her blouse, casita has butterfly designs all over it. that's why mirabel's the one who can help heal the cracks and why casita starts tearing itself apart during the argument with abuela alma: the two mistresses of the house were at such odds it was literally tearing the house apart. we can also infer that mirabel became the mistress of the house because antonio's gift is stated in the movie as being the first gift they have to "find a use for." mirabel just wants antonio to be happy and enjoy his gift, that's why the animal obsessed five-year-old got the ability to talk to animals. every other power beforehand is something that would have been useful during alma and pedro's escape from violence. oh, and her doorknob becomes the catalyst for the new casita. abuela saw to the family's physical well-being, now mirabel sees to their emotional and spiritual well-being. also the color coding is 100% so you can visually tell who's a sibling and who's a cousin. mirabel's side of the family is in cool jewel tones while pepa's side is in warm yellows/oranges while bruno's in earth tones.
@@brandiarmstrong2902 yep. he's visually distinct however green is considered a warm/cool tone, it's very easy for it to blend one way or the other which puts him between both his sisters. that said, he's not entirely the odd one out, mirabel has her green glasses.
@@BadgerPride89 True. I've worn glasses since 6th grade, and I never saw anything quite so cool as those. Even turquoise, purple and black marbling on mine can't top her green ones. At least I know now why BillyBinges felt so comfortable calling her Esmerelda!
Also I absolutely need to know what everyone else’s rooms look like. Is Louisa’s room a massive gym? Is delores’ room a sound proof room to give her some rest? Is Camilo’s room a bunch of mirrors to practice his shape shifting? I must know
I also want to comment on the fact that a lot of the main characters are altos. Which is very different from the usual soprano protagonists in Disney. I love having songs in my register that are fun to sing and are comfortable. It made me really happy to hear! 😁
Lin Manuel Miranda writes great alto songs - except that all of these songs fall in the “break” or bassagio! Aka the notes between chest voice and head voice. Much harder to sing than it seems! But I still love singing them!
I also think Encanto did a good job with introducing "triplet mythology". There are a lot of "luck" and "magic" stories that begin with triplets and Encanto follows that. Alao, I feelclike I was the only one to notice that Mirabel was always meant to mend the family and also Casita, with clues from the beginning. You see, she SEWS. And what do you do when you sew? You stitch things together, mend things, and also CREATE things. Its perfect.
Oh, also, Mirabel unknowingly knew that Antonio's gift would have to do with animals. She gave him the stuffed jaguar and mentioned that he loved animals.
I feel like in my theory, the gifts are given based on what the person with gifts want or like to do, since Antonio likes animals, his ability to communicate with animals are perfect, or it could be that those gifts could be predetermined since birth, and how their personality camr to be was because of the gifts. Another example, Camilo likes to entertain, prank and tell stories, the abilities to shapeshift is PERFECT for that. Dolores has super hearing, she often gossips and eavesdrop on people from miles away (although I guess that comes with the gift). Just a theory doe
27:00 I don't think that Bruno's vision has two branches at all. He and Mirabel misinterpreted the vison, because its not either, but both. The hous cracks, a yellow butterfly shows up (Abuela's memories) and the house is made whole by Mirabel at the end.
the "What could I do if I just knew it didn't need to be perfect? It just needed to be? And they let me be?" in Isabel's song is the thing that struck me the most, coming from a family of overachievers. the idea that I could just be ME, not a doctor, nor engineer, not someone with a high paying job, just Me, shook me to the core.
I think the creators had Antonio get his gift so that Mirabel can have her song “Waiting on A Miracle” or rather what it stands for. The song is the first sign that we see Mirabel isn’t okay with her not getting a gift (which is the first one we see the cracks in the house) and near the end when Mirabel and Abuela were arguing, the cracks are magnified. Even after they stop fighting, the cracks keep spreading because Mirabel already said how Abuela was disappointed than Mirabel didn’t get a gift (as if it was her fault somehow) The extra “salt in the wound” is that BEFORE Mirabel gets her gift, Abuela tells her that her gift will be as special as she is, but she didn’t get one. However, almost immediately AFTER Antonio gets his gift, Abuela says the same thing to him and Mirabel has that moment of proudness and jealousy and sadness and anger all wrapped into one which comes out in the song.
Of the three sisters, I definitely related to Luisa in a deep way. During her song, though it was peppy and upbeat, it literally had me in tears. The hidden silent suffering of carrying the burdens of the family, all while pretending that it's easy or not too heavy. Very much a therapy session like you said haha
39:16 and 41:55, when Ben pronounces *Encanto* correctly and then "corrects" himself... Guys, it's okay, it's not cultural appropriation to pronounce Spanish words as Spanish words. 😄 Also, I agree with Ben on music catchiness. Songs in my head after first watch? Check. To your last question, saw it and loved it!
I do think Mirabel was "chosen" because of her innate qualities: her deep love for her family, and profound compassion and empathy let her help each member of the family and eventually heal their relationships (Luisa, Isabella, Bruno, Abuela Alma), in ways the others couldn't. I think the house chose her to be Abuela's successor, the next leader of the family, who doesn't have a special "power" because the whole house and family are her power.
I just wish it was half an hour longer! We needed more songs with Pepa, Julieta, Dolores, Camilo and maybe even Bruno and Antonio? I was so sure we were gonna have more songs like Luisa's and Isabela's but alas. Apart from that criticism, near PERFECTION in my eyes!
I have a theory So Abuela has no powers but in her darkest moment by the lake she founded the house and the magic and leads her family Mirabel was not given powers but in her darkest moment by the lake, with a push from Abuela, Mirabel leads her family to build up the house, Mirabel is the one the house chose to be the next leader
30:04 Actually, I've heard from some people that in Colombia, rain on a wedding is like a bad omen, as in the marriage will fail, so when Bruno says it "looks like rain", what he MEANS is "you look worried", but what Pepa THINKS he means is "Your marriage will fail", which stresses her out so much that she creates a hurricane. We know Bruno didn't really mean harm because it was clearly an offhanded comment, and Bruno needs to perform a whole ritual beforehand if he wants to see the future. I'm clearly overthinking the haha funny rat man, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Lin Manuel Miranda does for Disney exactly what Alan Menken and Howard Ashman did. A good musical has songs that further the plot, not halt it. If a story completely has to stop just for a song to play it’s not a good song for a musical. Lin understands this so well, his songs are almost like dialogue. The story can’t function without them. He even got a writing credit for Encanto because his songs were THAT essential to the plot. It really feels like we’re in a second renaissance right now without even knowing it.
I think you used the wrong word. 'Detrimental' means "tending to cause harm" The word I think you were going for was 'essential' But that is a cool fact :D
My only complaint about the movie is that we didn’t get to see more from Pepa’s side of the family/see the burdens that’s she, Camilo, and Dolores face. I think that would have further driven home the point, let us see more of mirabel’s dynamic with the rest of the family, and give those great characters more screen time
Agree. But in all fairness, they can only make the movie so long and with so many characters, they can only give each of them so much h screen time. So I understand why we didn't see more of them, however I'd happily watch it and enjoy it if it were longer and gave them all even more depth.
I would be very happy if they made a series about life after the movie or something where they explored all of that. It would be nice to see how Dolores reacted to gaining her gift, suddenly being able to hear everything. Or how Camilo struggles with himself because of his power. Or how Pepa has to shove down all her emotions or only be upset when it’s convenient for the town. (I also wanna see everyone else’s rooms 😊)
That could've been a treat opportunity to get some more unique music into the movie too. For example, maybe a song about Dolores hearing everything before and during the dinner instead of just jumping to the meal and people whispering around the table, or a song about the two mothers later in the movie to establish some more pressure in the family.
As a disabled person, I really resonated with mirabel. Like how her parents keep reassuring her that she did not have to prove herself, but she still keeps trying really hard to help her family, is what happened to me a lot. also abeula being kinda resentful towards her throughout the movie is also relatable to me. I really loved how in the end, she ended up accepting the fact that she did not have a gift, instead of finding it, like how every other movie does.
i actually found that this 'pressure from above' under which all the family members except the abuela seem to suffer is specifically visualised through the abuelas interactions with pepa. because pepa is just running around with all her emotions and since, thanks to her gift, she cant keep them to themselves everyone notices what she is feeling. and whenever she has 'a cloud', like a negative emotion, is excited, anxious or angry, her abuela always says 'calm down, you have a cloud' and it has impacted pepa so much, that she just tries to only create clear skies (as seen right before the 'we dont talk about bruno' song) that she sort of oppresses all her other emotions. and at the end, with bruno and her husband felix saying that she should let everything out and with the scene of her and felix dancing under one of her clouds and everyone supporting it, its just the final visual tell for the character development that the whole family has gone through. another moment where the controlling nature of the abuela shines through is a very subtle move when the whole family is eating breakfast and the topic of isabelas engagement to mariano arises (dolores says 'tonight, he wants five babies'), isabela grows pink flowers and one white flower on her head and her abuela stands above her, talking about how perfect and good the match is for everyone, and plucks the white flower, thus letting it fall to the ground. this symbolizes for one isabelas pressure of being perfect, since one flower was out of place, and for another the issue of the abuela, who sees the imperfection and litterally tries to root it out. i'm just amazed and awestruck with the detailing and underlying metaphors in this movie that sort of only become clear after watching the movie several times.
28:00 it's not necessarily that Bruno's vision about Dolores turns out to be "wrong" per se; I think it's more along the lines of the listener always has an opportunity to choose what to do with the information they hear from Bruno since his visions are always rather open ended. Bruno tells Dolores her true love is "out of reach" and betrothed to another; he never says Dolores will never be with the man of her dreams. While Dolores could have easily accepted that she will never be with Mariano, Dolores ultimately chooses to pursue and win him (once realizing Isabela isn't a factor, of course), if that makes sense.
I was thinking that too though because of the flashback but at the end she didn't get the same candle back or a new one to restore the house it just came back because the community rebuilt it.
@@s-wo8781 I think the magic needed to move on to a new host... because Abuela's not going to be there forever... she's getting older, I think that Mirabel is her successor and that her source of power is represented on the front door of Casita... It was her placing the doorknob that brought the house back to life, that door Became Her Door... If you look at everyone's doors there is symbology of their power, Abuela and the Candle (the start of the magic), Luisa having dumbells, Isabella's flowers, Julieta's cooking, Pepa's having thunderbolts and a cloud, the soundwaves that represent Delores's hearing, Carmilo's having 3 different humanoid shapes, Antonio's animals, the hourglass on Bruno's; and on the Front door is Mirabel in the foreground with her family behind her... This is Her Door
If you are the Keeper of something, you are powerful in that regard. As the magic expands with each new Madrigal, Abuella responds by keeping as hard as she can. She comes back in the end and says she's sorry for holding on too hard. Being the Keeper *has been* her power. Now the magic needs the next Keeper, and that's Mirabel. In effect, she was groomed for that by not having a power. And maybe Abuella saw it all along, she just didn't know what she was seeing.
Nah. The candle is gone by the end and yet the magic returns to everything. The candle isn't actually important. It isn't the first time they've put lots of focus on something in their movies that actually doesn't matter at all by the credits. 😅
@@staceyhunt6769 The candle was empowered by Pedro's Sacrifice & Alva's prayer, it held the magic, making Abuela keeper of it, if you notice when it goes out the magic is gone UNTIL Mirabel the next keeper, Abuela Alva's successor, brings the magic back, I like how someone else I've read put it, Mirabel's gift is being the Embodiment of the Magic, magic created through despair, hope, and Love... In the first case the candle was born of Alva's desperation at losing Pedro, the hope that Pedro held in his sacrifice, and the Love the two shared... In Mirabel's case it is her despair at not having a gift that she keeps shoving down, the hope she shows by always moving forward, and the Love and Empathy she has for her entire family. She even shows it for Isabela by the end, I think her bitter envy toward her sister is why the prophecy needed them to reconcile... Not only did it allow her to rekindle her love for her sister and to feel her pain, but it also exposed the real problem that was Abuela's heavy handed control over the magic... Showing that it was time for a new generation to take over
With due respect I want to say my opinion, actually Bruno’s vision of Dolores is true. She sang that he said her that her true love would be betrothed(engaged )to another not married. And Isabella was engaged to Mariano. So I think Bruno saw the vision correct
So my theory is that Mirabel actually got a power, the power of leadership, and the reason the door closed upon her was because her grandmother was still alive. This makes Mirabel actually really important, she is just not ready yet. This would also make her a Disney princess (Even though i still don’t think she fits that category), as she will inherit the «throne» one day.
Yeah, I can see what you mean. Mirabel does have a gift/power, but it’s realistic (I know Louisa has strength which is a real power, but she can pick up big stuff like animals and houses with ease). The house not giving her a power with a door meant that the house blessed her with leadership, as in she kept the family together and did the best she could to help everyone out. And in the end, she did. She’s the heart of the cards! Again, I love they realistic nature that Mirabel is special without powers, she’s got leadership skills to keep her family together
@@benitron1 Yeah, this, at the end she straight up weaves magic back into the house, much like how the grandmother/grandfather did, and this is exactly what I felt like at that moment, that she's to be the next "leader" of the house when the grandma dies.
One of my favorite little details in the film is during “we don’t talk about Bruno” when Dolores is singing about still hearing him “stuttering and mumbling” you can actually see Bruno in the balcony walking across and at one point straight up dancing to the song.
Definitely one of my favourite Disney movies! I loved that there was no twist villain, and the closest thing to an antagonist was Abeula, but once you learn about her past, her actions become understandable. The main conflict was around the family's past.
I really loved that too, because it’s another way that they manage to represent a real family - there are no villains, no one is completely wrong, but everyone has their own motivations and perspectives that make them act the way they do, and no matter what conflict may arise, the love that binds them is always there to heal them 💗
I noticed this too! I was talking to my friend about this movie yesterday and we both agreed that the root of the main conflict is trauma and how parents with unaddressed trauma can unwittingly project that trauma onto their children (and grandchildren in this case). The main antagonist of Encanto is Abuela's *trauma* and I loved that!
I say Encanto is a great movie that talks about how everyone is special, no matter if they have a gift or not, but what always matters is to never pressure anyone in your family to uphold expectations. One must let everyone pursue or do what they want to do, otherwise the pressure will cause everyone to feel a burden in some way. Like with Louisa, she’s strong and capable of lifting super heavy stuff (houses and mountains, etc), but the grandmother of the family doesn’t see that as being “good enough,” as Mirabel says to her grandmother. And going to Mirabel, even though she doesn’t have a supernatural gift like everyone else, she does have a gift (as someone else mentioned): leadership. She’s keeping the family together as best as she can, and she’s able to help Louisa out, despite not liking her before. And at the end, she’s the one that brings the house back to life after putting the doorknob in, she’s keeping the family in check, she’s the heart of the cards, she’s the true leader that helps and keeps her family happy and well. Mirabel not being the kind of Disney Princess with a supernatural gift, or having a high class family (if that even makes sense) makes her the first Disney Princess that’s the most realistic of the bunch. She doesn’t need a gift to be special, she is special for helping her family out. That’s what I love about Encanto, and I hope that movie wins some awards for that
I find it interesting that each member of the family represents a role in a “toxic family” For example Bruno is the scapegoat, Isabella is the “golden child” and Pepa’s feelings are always gaslighted and her feelings aren’t taken seriously. And Abuela is the abuser, mentally.
Fun fact: while Bruno sings "let it in, let it out, let it rain, let it snow, let it go," they actually put the little piano intro from Let It Go into the backing track for that part. It's really easy to hear if you're listening to just the instrumental track, but you can definitely hear it in the original, too, if you're paying attention. This is by far my favorite Disney easter egg ever.
I feel like the house gives them the specific power to help with their insecurities. Like maybe Antonio is scared of people; talking to them or being surrounded. So the house gave him the ability to talk to animals to get him out of his shell. The brother of Antonio who can shape shift is nervous to be himself, or believes himself to not be good enough. When the grandmother says we need another Jose, not will you help Jose. The mother who heals is scared to see her family in pain, something she grew up seeing, so she is able to heal everyone. Bruno wants to protect the family from never having the past happening again, sees the future.
Considering how much Lin Manuel Miranda loves references and subtle meaning, there has got to be SO MUCH to notice and unpack here. I feel like I'll need to watch it 5 times to start to get to grips with it.
3:15 I would argue that for the same reason that casita could not help inside Bruno's room: because there was a family disconnection. Two things come to mind: casita is a conscious being with limited control over his physical body (the building itself) and as the candle was being consumed also its own existence. In other words, Casita did the best it could.
As a person who identifies as neurodiverse, I felt deeply connected with Mirabel throughout the movie. The fact that there was never an explanation for why she didn't get a gift is really beautiful and real; most of us who are different simply will never get an answer that explains or even justifies why we have to work so much harder to do the same things other people seem effortlessly capable of. At the end of the movie, the family finally comes to understand and validate Mirabel's experience, and sees all of her beyond just someone who didn't get a gift. Also, I've seen a lot of thoughts about how Mirabel's "gift" is empathy, leadership, etc. While Mirabel definitely has these traits, I would argue that it was her not getting a gift that allowed these to be cultivated. The rest of the family was basically told what their talent would be when they got their gift, and those are the only skills that were really nurtured or encouraged. Mirabel, meanwhile, had to discover her strengths on her own.
I agree. I don't really like the whole "Oh, Mirabel had a gift, it is this" because that kills the idea behind the movie, imo. The reason why Mirabel isn't special, is because she doesn't have a gift. Why is Mirabel special, is because she doesn't have a gift. Imo, the movie is about emotional neglect, specifically from Abuela, and social isolation within a family unite. The reason why she is the one to destroy and rebuild the house, is because the abuse has to end, not because she is special in any way. She is the one being abused, she is the one to call it out. Sidenote, I am also neurodivergent and I also really related to Mirabel and I loved the scene with her and her little cousin
@@ethans8296 Well, all words Are made up, and neurodiverse is also one these. It was popularised in the 1990s, and is used to describe people whose minds work differently than most, but since we have realised that this isn’t a bad thing, we use the word neurodiverse, instead of whatever other words we used to use.
The line that seemed to hit me the hardest in Surface Pressure (Louisa’s song) was “Give it to your sister and never wonder, if the same pressure would have pulled you under-“ I mean,
Bruno was not wrong about Dolores, Isabella WAS going to marry the guy of Dolores’ dreams… until Maribel intervened and CHANGED Bruno’s vision, just as his vision of Maribel was changing, which was unique to anything he had ever experienced.
I don't think that Bruno's vision for Dolores changed. Bruno said the love of her life would be just out of reach and betrothed (not married) to another, he didn't say that he would stay that way forever
Betrothed just means engaged, and they were technically engaged for a bit! (Families pushing for marriage I'd say is a form of engagement) So he was not wrong at all.
@@talpine1225 but there never was a complete proposal, Maribel’s actions prevented the proposal that Isabela would have accepted because she thought she had to. Bruno foresaw the proposal, not Maribel’s interruption.
@@SGT_VES I don't think Mirabel changed the future that Bruno saw. For example, what he saw in the vision of her was her at the center of Casita breaking and being repaired and both of those things end up happening. He just didn't understand when/how they were going to happen and so didn't know what the vision meant, only that Mirabel was going to be important to the future of the family miracle. He actually talks about how the vision is showing things out of order when they're viewing it together in Antonio's room. The point about the proposal being interrupted is an interesting point though. Were they actually "betrothed"? Without seeing what his vision was or knowing what he actually said to Dolores it's hard to say what the truth is. Bruno seeing the proposal, but not the aftermath could be one explanation, or perhaps Bruno told her that the man of her dreams would be "promised" to another and over the course of the ~10 years he's been gone Dolores mis-remembered it as "betrothed".
What I love about Encanto is how so many people see themselves in *different* characters. It speaks to how well written each character is that they have distinct enough traits to be relatable separately.
From a POC perspective I see it as a critique on toxic familial traits. How they treat Bruno reminds me of how family members just try not to talk about members with mental health issues. That family member in Soul Food who stayed in his room the whole time just suddenly comes to mind, but this was a more extreme case. The grandma though, boy I get where she's coming from but she caused a lot of problems in her family.
The sacrifice that Pedro Madrigal made reminded me of Lily Potter’s sacrifice. They both sacrificed their lives for their children and their children were then blessed. With Harry Potter not dying to Voldemort and the Madrigals literally having magical powers.
My Encanto theory… Mirabel’s “power” is that she becomes the magic. When her door disappears it’s actually her becoming the magic! The reason the house is breaking is because her family does not appreciate her. Even though she does all she can to stay happy every time someone mentions something about her not having a gift her feelings get hurt . Resulting in the cracks that Bruno has been patching since her ceremony. The house completely brakes and the magic disappears when heart is finally broken by her grandma. Just a thought.
Ooooo I like this idea. It makes so much sense. I mean while everyone is wondering what his gift would be, if he got one. She was reasuring and gave him a stuff leopard. Like dude, forshadowed by Mirabel herself. But I still think she should've gotten a bedroom.
There's a tiny easter egg type surprise in the background during "We Don't Talk about Bruno." Watch the background when Dolores started singing. You get a quick glimpse of Bruno in silhouette in the back glowing faintly green.
When I watched the movie the first time I thought Mirabel had a secret power that the house/candle hid for some reason. She's an empath and can visualize people's real emotions as songs. For example, when her strong older sister was feeling the pressure drip drip drip she knew something was wrong her sister wasn't ready to open up, but Mirabel could feel her struggle and her powers showed her thru song.
One thing that always stuck with me was Abuela’s line to younger Mirabel and Antonio during their ceremonies: “You have a gift that’s just as special as you are” (The exact words are slightly different when said to each of them but that’s the overall message). When Abuela says it to Antonia you see that Mirabel interprets that as “oh I don’t have a gift, so I must not be special”
Okay, I also want to draw attention to the motif of eyes - Abuela’s “open your eyes” at the beginning and end, Mirabel asking Abuela to open her eyes, even her name - “mira” denotes sight. It applies to so much, and it keeps growing as a motif / theme in my mind.
So when Bruno tells Peppa that “it looks like rain” and then she creates a hurricane out of nerves over it… if that was their wedding day and Bruno didn’t go into hiding until after mirabelle didn’t get a gift on her 5th birthday then that means he spent about 10-11 years after peppa’s wedding with the family without explaining that incident
Maybe he tried more than once but every time he tried it only caused Pepa to get upset and cause destruction. So he stopped trying and was left with a bad reputation among the people, to ultimately disappear. Bruno is the most misunderstood character of all, even by himself.
I like that “someone would be chosen for this quest” idea above the other. Because the metaphor is generational trauma, it’s comforting that it CAN be anyone, its not a chosen one or could only happen once so-and-so was born-anyone can begin this healing and new foundation building. I think the reason it ended up being someone w/o a power is because in a family of powers what’s going to be the thing that forces them to see another way.
As we were watching the movie(my second watch, his first), during the scene with Mirabel and her ceremony, my husband basically said , "Oh, so she's so powerful doesn't need a gift. she must be the candle."
35:28. This is actually somewhat simple. Abuela caused the Miracle to falter resulting in Mirabel not getting a gift. This is due to Abuela's high expectations of her family and slow change into caring more about reputation than her family. Soon after Mirabel's door disappeared Abuela asked Bruno to have his vision. As everyone only thought bad of him rather than trying to help him figure out his visions, he hid it from the family and 'left' to protect Mirabel. Antonio is able to receive a gift as he asks for Mirabel to be with him and despite Abuela not wanting Mirabel to 'interfear', she helps him. This is when the miracle sees Mirabel's love for the family, grants Antonio a gift, and in my head cannon, helps Mirabel become the next head of the Madrigal family and Abuela's successor.
I like this. It also implies that perhaps, without Mirabel there, Antonio also would not have received a gift, thus perpetuating abuela's fears. Another subtle hint that Mirabel is the heir to the house.
The thing that is missing from most understanding of this movie is the true and horrific truth that, aside from Syria, Colombia has the highest number of internally displaced people due to the armed conflict among its government, far right groups, drug cartels and other factions. Abuela is not rigid and strict about the family and their intended roles because she cares about the family name or reputation- it's because they depend on them for their literal survival. She held on too much to the miracle because she's deathly afraid of how vulnerable they are, as she says to Pedro's after Mirabel spoke of the cracks to Casita. If they lose their power, if the miracle fades, if the encanto crumbles, they will be lost again.
So I have an unpopular theory for why Mirabel didn't get her gift. (The popular theory being that she is meant to be the next candle holder and since the current one was still alive, Mirabel's powers didn't manifest yet). My alternative theory is: MIRABEL unintentionally and very subtly DISRUPTED HER OWN GIFT GIVING CEREMONY. In the ceremony, every child is shown touching the candle, that is being held by Abeula, and then touching the door. HOWEVER, Mirabel has a step, (that was deliberately animated imo - why else show it) inbetween. SHE RUBS HER HANDS ON HER DRESS BEFORE SHE TOUCHES THE DOOR (probably as a nervous tick). I think this could have interrupted the magic somehow - she rubbed off the magic. She did the ceremony wrong. That's why she didn't get a power. She wasn't chosen, or so special that she wasn't given something special. It was a fluke. She made a mistake. And this set off a butterfly effect (see what I did there), that caused uncertainty, stress, pressure, anxiety, familial strain and ultimately Cassita, the family and the miracle falling apart. Now as to what her powers could be, I don't really know. I think all the characters probably showed small indications of what their power would be before they got it. Their powers are based on their personalities, not the other way around. Antonio has a pet bird before he can talk to animals, Abuela was wishing for a miracle to save them and then she gained the ability to give miracles etc. This also comes through with Isabella and Louisa who have gifts according to their typical roles in the family. So looking at Mirabel's personality, I know some other theories besides candle holder include strengthening or weaking other’s gifts, emotional healing rather than physical healing (which her mom can already do), or maybe something to do with transforming people, things or places in some other way, given all the butterfly symbolism. But I'll leave that part up to @SuperCarlinBrothers to discuss.
I think Mirabell has a unique emotional intelligence. She is able to learn from and have compassion for those who have been the catalyst for her persecution. Everyone gather for a Madrigal family photo without noticing or having concern that she wasn’t in it. Mirabell has a special connection to the house and magic, just like her grandmother. I think her power will prove to be as the new “matriarch” or the casita as her grandmother ages out. She gained perspective to maintain the magic of the household. You can see this as the center of the new magical doors at the end.
I don't think Bruno saw a vision that could go 2 ways, i think he saw 2 visions that were too close to eachother to properly interpret. He saw her breaking and rebuilding the house, and misinterpreted it.
For me, yes, this is the best animated film of the year. My daughters haven’t loved a movie to this level (watch at least once daily) since Moana. The animation is fun, the songs slap, and the story feels so relatable. The songs are probably the best part, even my two year old goes around the house telling we don’t talk about Bruno no no no, BUT it was her wedding day… kind of glad we didn’t see it in theaters just because we were all dancing to the songs and that could’ve been embarrassing.
This is so sweet! I'm glad my family is not the only ones where they are watching it daily and the whole family is singing the songs constantly, I have 5 nieces across three households and they all have been watching this movie on repeat daily, my sister bought my one niece all Encanto toys (including an Isabela doll who shares her namesake) and I recently bought some mini characters for my other nieces to play with their legos. I know covid impacted numbers for this movie but I hope Disney sees how well it's been going over especially since it was released on Disney Plus.
@@christmastiger I hope so too, I’ve been seeing tons of videos on here of reactions to the movie and songs, and every one of them has raved about the brilliance of it all.
"I'm pretty sure I'm worthless if I can't be of service" punched me in the heart. I boohoosnotface cried. I'm the middle child, the only one taking care of our sick mom (in addition to working full-time and being in grad school full-time) and I truly never feel like I'm enough for these people.
I've heard a theory that Abuela FORCED Felix and Pepa to have Antonio because she was so torn by Mirabel not getting a gift. Pepa would've been 45 when she had Antonio after all. People usually don't have kids that late of their own accord. I'm guessing Camilo is just slightly older than Mirabel as both are stated to be 15 years old. Also Also, it's ISABELA, not Isabel lol.
On Twitter one of the writers confirmed this theory is false. (And good thing cause this theory is messed up & would immediately bump abuela up to a villain rather than an antagonist
While watching the movie, and especially during We Don't Talk About Bruno, I kept thinking of self-fulfilled prophecy. You know something is going to happen and you don't do anything to change it, or it gets stuck in your head that it's going to happen so it does. I think this movie has a really interesting take on showcasing that, and the butterfly effect.
theory: the candle/butterfly/casita are all one and are all kind of a reincarnation of abuelo pedro and mirabel is "special" because she always had the closest relationship to Casita and therefore to Pedro and so when Abuela says at the end "I asked my pedro for help and so he sent me you" is actually literal. Because Abuela talked to the candle asking "what do I do?" but he'd already helped by not giving mirabel powers etc
ngl I feel like the “why mirabel..” is a relic of western storytelling, I don’t necessarily believe there’s a why and that isn’t for me a bad thing. It did skip her and the story is the causal sequence of events that happened in direct relation to it. I don’t think it was predetermined as well, Bruno says her future was undecided and he only came to have this vision after she didn’t get a door, this leads me believe the future in this universe is undecided, so previous to that night she might have been supposed to get powers who knows. Its a soft magic system so it does be like that imo. My conclusion though is that even if theres a hidden reason that hasn’t been well communicated by the writer (something that can be critiqued) Mirabel doesn’t need to be “special”. I think the movie does work best if it considers us special just for existing and not for our unique roles in our families or communities, because if its shes not different than the others and the “im worthless if I don’t fulfill my role” cycle would continue. To quote Isabela “what could I do if I just knew it didn’t need to be perfect, It just needed to be and they let me be”.
never too many but like i can do "hey brotherr" in pitch and perfect timing with both and also have been watching since the 'tech fusion' sound logo i dunno what to call it not the one before this one the one before that
I absolutely loved it, Luisa is a queen and I just want to hug her! My only major complaint is how little time we got to explore some of the characters and their personalities and gifts, which makes me want to see a sequel or an animated Disney+ series to go further into the characters deffinetly 98/100
There was definitely a butterfly motif tying Mirabel to the candle. Similar to the sun motif in Tangled. I also think there’s something with her having the embroidery all over her clothes and belongings. The thread that holds the family together.
That and Mirabel had the right qualities to handle not having powers. IDK if Antonio or Luisa or anyone would have been able to handle it. Mirabel is such a hopeful and loving and resilient character. That is what makes her special. 🥰
@@YukiSilverFox72 i agree, i mean we saw Luisa's reaction to losing her gift, I would hate to have seen what she would be like if she didn't get one in the first place.
I'm dyslexic, in my family I was never seen as able as my older siblings, and our mother was a narcissist who needed her children to be perfect to show how good she was. I could never measure up to any of my siblings accomplishments, so to save my sanity I went no contact with all of them, as they all competed with each other to be the best. It was toxic and I only learned to like myself after getting away from them all.
This could be the one for 2021, and it oughta be a turning point for recent works from the studio. Disney Plus helped I'm sure. The family's conflicts about expectations ring loud, and the ending was pretty sweet too.
the one problem about this movie changing the way disney makes animated films (I'd be totally down for if it does) is that it'd probably be another 10 years before anything actually changes because it takes so long for that kind of thing to happen in the animation business
Something that’s exclusively unique with this Disney movie that made it skyrocket in terms of my personal score, is that there wasn’t a a big adventure or quest the protagonist had to go on to solve the plot. It was all (quite literally) IN-HOUSE; there wasn’t an event that occurred that spurred the rest of the movie into action. Through exposition and dialog the audience sees that the problem of the magic fading has been slowing building up overtime- it wasn’t suddenly falling apart because one specific thing happened. I just loved that there wasn’t a big life changing adventure to go on, what happens WAS life changing but no one needed to GO anywhere to make it happen.
It's the battle between expectations and responsibility. All three daughters are very responsible people under the crushing weight of abuela's expectations so they just want to fit in the family's grand plan. Also, I think Mirabel ends up inheriting abuela's power and becomes the new head of the family, which could mean that the candle is sensing that abuela was close to death, which makes it a liiiiiittle creepy. I do think that the power of the candle wavering was a signal of abuela's imminent death.
21:12 my theory is gift are given based on interest. Mirabelle starts off the movie listening to a story for grandparents her family. She Interact with the house like abuela. Her first song is about her family. Mirabella's chosen because her love for her family and the house knew she'd be a good keeper. Like the house chose the Doctor Doolittle powers for Antonio because he loves animals.
I watched Encanto about 4times till now and every time, I noticed a little tiny details which I didn't caught. This movie is the best animated told story, how ever I wished we had more time spent with other Madrigal family members. there are loads of opportunities in the story I feel left out because of time.
Lin Manuel Miranda said in an interview (on the podcast Disney’s For Scores) that the challenge of the movie was if they could KEEP all the characters. They easily could have dropped Pepa’s family entirely, but it was important for them to show this big, exciting family. So in other words, it was impossible to do justice to ALL the characters, but it’s integral to the story that they are there.
One thing that jumped at me in the scene with Isabella is how thoughtful they were of flipping the coin on the narrative. While the movie is a lot about "you can make great things happen without being considered gifted", that scene jumps out to me. Because all of a sudden the emotion seeping through is "with everything you got, how can you have problems?" and I feel like this is such an important moment in the movie. It makes it go from this view of the oppressed saving the world to realizing that while you might view someone as having a wonderful life, the truth can be very different from it. It was an amazingly made movie and I loved a lot of it.
Don't know about anyone else but this is how I viewed the relationship between the candle and the house: magic created candle > candle created house > the candle can effect the house as it created it, but not the other way around as the house is the creation not creator. So at the end the house can help get people to the candle, but it can't move the candle to the people, as it has no control over its creator
I just wish we could have spent some more time with the individual characters. I'd actually like to see a series with the characters. I know it would be a bit dark for Disney, but maybe set it 10-20 years after the movie with Mirabel assuming the responsibilities of head of household after Abuela Alma's death. (I believe this is why she didn't get a power because she was chosen by the house to succeed Alma.)
I like to think that the casita is the spirit of their Abuelo Pedro also I haven’t finished the video yet lol so idk if they mentioned this already but I think that the reason mirabel didn’t get a gift (yet) is because Abuela Alma is still alive and her gift is still somewhat I guess taken in a way and I believe when she passes either her door will disappear and be replaced and that door will be for mirabel or idk that door stays and another door appears for mirabel
Aubela's treatment of Bruno is the immediate catalyst for Mirabel not getting powers. The constant and continuous interpretation of his visions as harbingers of doom and as HIS FAULT overshadowed him as a person: it wasn't Bruno that mattered, it was the use of his powers to make others happy, which was impossible. So, when the house and the candle saw that all Mirabel wanted was to help without any idea of how (unlike everyone else who already has a plan or talent ala MLP), they gave her no magic. "THIS, the child, LOVE, that is your miracle. Not what you can do for others, not this house, not this valley, LOVE and FAMILY. You get no door, you get no new power, you get a PERSON." And no one gets it. So, Bruno is given the vision of everything breaking apart but panics and quits before he sees that it all comes back together. And then he runs away, because that is the ONLY way he can possibly help his family. Did you notice not only does Mirabel lives in the tiny nursery with a five-year-old, she shares a toddler-size bed with him. She also appears to make her own clothes and have no other possessions. Mirabel is treated like and unwanted but tolerated pet by her family. This is as close to a Pixar movie as Disney has ever gotten... except Pixar wouldn't have given the magic back.
When Mirabel rebuilt that vision, I thought that she was supposed to break the old house so that they could expand or create something new, kind of like a phoenix dying to be reborn again more majestic than it's previous form. It looked like the new house had extra space for new rooms, which seemed to be running pretty tight considering that all the doors were already making a circle around the patio, so in a way, that might've been her true destiny, people were, as always, just afraid of change. That, and maybe her power is to be the next matriarch/candlekeeper/abuela of the family, since the door that holds gandma's room doesn't have her name or powers (which she has none, much like mirabel), but her title and function, which could be taken over by anyone.
I was just discussing Lin Manuel with my mom the other day after I finally got her to see Encanto. He has been playing major rolls in Disney Music lately and I'm wondering if he may be an eventual replacement for Alan. Those are big shoes to fill and Lin Manuel has done a fantastic job so far.
I was so worried early on that Mirabel's "power" would be cracking the house. It rather played into the house as its own entity better. The feeling that she'd have a Deku/Shigaraki My Hero Academia style thing weighed on me for like the first half of the movie.
I think that the powers are granted by what the child want’s and their personality. Camilo is a trickster, Dolores is a gossip, the mother is caring, Antonio likes animals ect. I believe that mirabel already had what she wanted and was going to receive so she got no power. I don’t think that she will be a candleholder because of the fact that abuela had a door but mirabel doesn’t.
I find it funny how Ben always starts pronouncing "Encanto" the way it is said in the movie (and in Spanish, I guess) and than corrects himself to say it in an American accent
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My wife pointed out that the triplets got the powers they need for the community to thrive. They had a doctor, someone to control weather for crops, and someone to see if danger was near.
They also got the perfect husbands. I am surprised that they did not mention this. Pepa has a very volatile mood and her husband is perfect calming her down, he seems very positive and calm. Julieta can heal people and we see the dad getting hurt all the time. I love how they complement each other
They need to make a movie for Bruno, getting his own happiness and family as well. He deserves that
@@anvime739 maybe Bruno had a vision about their relationships and so he told them that they would be perfect for each other
Woah you're right
But pepa can’t control the weather, her emotions do. She has to be sad to water the crops and helping out will probably make her feel better a bit so then there wouldn’t be as much rain. But she also can basically make a hurricane appear by accident. She is more dangerous than helpful
Bruno was just so done with his gift it was almost funny. When he showed mirabel the prophecy, you can he how hopeful he was for a good outcome. Then they saw the two sisters hugging. He probably thinking, awww how sweet and the smile of his face afterwords was so adorable. Then Mirabel comes in and screams her sisters name in disgust. Looks over to him seething in anger and suddenly Bruno just up and tossed the green tablet, shaddering it while saying "everytime" in the saddest way possible. I feel so bad for Bruno.
We feel so sad about Brunononono
We don't talk about Bruno...
@@acexxxoasis Bruno doesn’t even like to talk about himself.
@@acexxxoasis but we sing an entire song about him😉🤣!
I am glad it was Mirabel that found Bruno again because she could relate and understand his burdens and sadness. They both were outcasts from the family and felt they were better off staying away in order to maintain the family’s happiness. They both felt useless.
The difference is that Mirabel did not give up which inspired Bruno to come back.
I also liked how Bruno saves Mirabel even though he originally dod not want to be found. That is family for you.
It's a generally accepted theory that Mirabel is the next candleholder for the family. She'll take care of the miracle itself once Abuela is gone. That's why she didn't get a gift. Her and Abula's "gifts" are to hold the family together. That's why they're the best at communicating with Casita.
In addition, Casita didn't reveal this fact so Mirabels own natural gifts would grow on their own without the heavy weight of expectation of being the next leader of the family deterring her.
This was also being shown in first arts for the animation i think? Casita was meant to change its looks on the inside depending on how Abuela looked and how she was feeling. Later in the movie this was also suppose to happen when for Mirabell.
Mirabel's door is the front door of the house, furthering the point.
That’s what I thought she didn’t get her powers because abuela is still alive and once she passes maribel will inherit her gift
They're the best communicating with the Casita and through the movie you also see Mirabel is also the best at communicating with the family members and getting their personal opinions on things that were previously kept inside. This helped to diffuse the tension in the family and also made everyone happier and stronger together.
I would like to point out that Dolores’s verse in “We don’t talk about Bruno” is littered with clues about Bruno still being there in the house and Bruno is LITERALLY in the background during Dolores’s verse
I saw a comment like this on the TH-cam song and totally agree. Dolores (and also Isabela) say towards the end during Bruno's song "It's fine", both of which having complicated love interests happening and whatnot. Easily noticable on the lyrical background video.
It's also possible that Bruno in the background was actually Camilo, which would probably make more sense given that Bruno doesn't want to be seen, and that Camilo's verse immediately follows Dolores'.
Also, Bruno's eyes only glow green when he's performing a vision--but when Camilo imitates Bruno, his eyes are always glowing green, as they are in the background of the song. That could simply be a stylistic choice, though.
@@linasaurus3254 yea but Dolores also hides him, there is that
yes i say that too
@@linasaurus3254 producers have confirmed it’s actually him
I'm from colombia and I'm not sure that what ends up making abuela and pedro leave their home is a "revolution"
In Colombia there is a concept of "forced displacement" by violence, no matter the origin of it, and the movie makes an effort to not give the one perpetrating the violence any voice or reason because that's how it is in real life for many people in rural places, you are told to leave or face the consequences, be it they want your land, your animals, you are teaching people how to think or have an opinion that opposes theirs.
Its crude, inexplicable and heart breaking how 15-20 seconds of a movie showcase a problematic that has existed for many many years.
I've seen it thrown around that the conflict they're running from in the beginning is the thousand days war. I also saw some official concept art for the film which included Pedro's year of death as 1901, which lines up with that conflict. I do agree with you though on that the perpetrators of violence aren't given a face or a voice because it isn't really important who they are or what they stood for, since their actions ruined the lives of so many
Great comments 🧡
Thanks for sharing this, Pablo.
i think they mean like a war of some sort
I personally thought the “conflict” was colonization
27:15 Actually in we don’t talk about Bruno, Dolores says he told her the man of her dreams would be betrothed (not married) to another. So technically Bruno’s vision was right because Isabella and Mariano were betrothed but never actually got married.
this is the comment I was looking for
They paid the Math budget this episode, but not the English budget.
They weren’t betrothed though. Mariano never got to propose and thus they never got engaged
@@BabyGirlTiny you're correct, but they were basically promised to each other by their families, so one might argue they were as good as engaged until Mirabel 'helped'.
@@BabyGirlTiny well betrothed in the sense that their marriage was basically arranged already by their families
Mirabel is to become the next Matriarch, she is in perfect symmetry with her grandmother: in space, her room is facing grandmother's, they are the only ones shown giving orders to the house, they are the only ones without specific powers and, while everyone else's clothes represent their powers, they both have the butterflies representing the miracle, they are the guardians of the house and the miracle (I think the candle is within grandmas' room, since the window is above her door, which will be at some point Mirabel's room, as it is the only room without a specific name on the door, but a title, is not Alma's room, is Abuela's room).
Another thing backing the "candle inside Abuela's room" theory is that Mirabel had to climb along the roof to get to the candle. Why couldn't she just walk to it from inside the casita, if it was just standing in it's own room in the attic/top floor? The only reason that makes sense to me is that it was inside Abuela's room, and thereby she couldn't get inside unnoticed. (also helped by the fact that Abuela just appears by the candle. We don't hear her door open, and Mirabel doesn't react to, or notice her, exiting her room).
Yes. This!
That's not how families work smh
The doors show the power. Aubela's door is her holding the candle.
"That's how Aubela became an Aubela" line in the first song, makes me wonder, what was written on the door BEFORE she became a grandmother?
Yes yes yes! I completely agree. I think Mirabel is Abuela's direct narrative and familial foil, in opposition to her because of Abuela's own sense of not being worthy of the miracle herself. I also believe that the Casita is the spirit of Abuelo Pedro, and that's why it is so happy to play with the kids and to make Mirabel still feel loved and heard.
I really wish they had dived deeper into the aunt and the pressure associated with her power. As a people pleaser with who deals with depression the whole “it’s ok to not be happy all the time” concept is a hard one to accept, but imagine if you NOT being perfectly happy all the time could cause storms such as hurricanes. That sort of pressure to be happy all the time, never one negative emotion, would be unbearable.
I agree this . I noticed immediately... I wonder if because they gave her bags under her eyes because of shoving it all down. They hoped you'd get it without the focus... Show don't tell, type of thing. But I think it maybe missed by the people who need to hear that. It's weird cause she wears her emotions on her sleep but she can't take them to their conclusion... She is more an external emotional meter for the family to show how everyone isn't dealing with their personal emotions and just shoving them down.
Seems less like depression to me, and more like an anxiety disorder. I've dealt with both, and that feeling of not just obsessing over "this is making me anxious" but also being anxious about being anxious can drive you up the wall batty!
And her family admonishes her for having a cloud, she's not allowed to feel anxious when she can't find her son. Like, how is she going to not feel anxiety when her child is missing, even if he's still in the house?
I think Encanto would really suite an animated series, like Tangled got. It already has a large cast, and there’s a lot of shenanigans I suppose they could get up to within the family and town. I would love to see Camilo, Dolores, and the parents explored more.
I support this idea on one condition. Lin Manuel Miranda must do the music for it.
@@joshuabean7805 I doubt they would do a song for each tv episode
@@moonsbies oh yeah, I wouldn't expect a song every episode they didnt even do that for the Tangled series, I'm saying any songs they do should at least have Lin as a consultant on.
@@joshuabean7805 YES
Lin-Manuel wants to.
I’m surprised you all didn’t talk about the significance of the butterflies! Mirabel has butterflies all over her outfit, the butterfly is on the candle, in the vision that her and bruno follow, the swarm of butterflies when she and abuela connect at the end, and the song at the end is about caterpillars turning into butterflies.
Yes. And they are yellow butterflies, a nod to Gabriel Garcia Marquez (not sure of spelling, sorry), the author of 100 Years of Solitude and Love in the Time of Cholera- he used the image of yellow butterflies a lot
Yes! also la Abuela has a big chatelaine with a massive golden butterfly, which shows that symmetry with Mirabel, which shows us that she will be the next matriarch as no one else has butterflies in their outfits
Yes! And the butterfly embroidery on her dress too, they’re everywhere
You've overlooked the most important one. I have finally discovered the connection between Mirabel and Abuela. (apart from both of them being able to talk to the Casita)....THE BUTTERFLY. Each member of the Madrigal family who has a gift has embroidery on their clothes that represents their gift....and each one is as unique as the Gift that person possesses. BUT....if you look at the scene where Luisa is panicking about losing her gift, you see a chain at Abuela's waist....WITH A BUTTERFLY ON IT at the top. The butterfly is shown in three places during this movie....etched in the miracle candle, stitched into Mirabel's outfit....and on Abuela's chain at the top....and then the butterflies explode in a a golden shower when Mirabel and Abuela are talking by the river. I think this is PROOF that she and Mirabel share the SAME gift....their connection to the Casita and the Miracle Candle. That was why Mirabel's door didn't work at first...but notice at the end, when Antonio hands Mirabel the doorknob to the Casita....it has an M engraved on it (and every other family member who has a special door has their first initial engraved on THEIR doors as well) and when Mirabel placed the handle on the door....it GLOWED, just like Antonio's door did. THAT was her gift.
@@CeltycSparrow makes totally sense! Thanks for the long explanation!
I really like how though Isabella is the typical Disney princess, she has the most indigenous look out of all the characters which is breaking stereotypes in her own right
I love that too, and by the way she is really living up to the Disney princess ideal, my nieces all LOVE her despite the fact that most of the movie doesn't show her in the best light.
Yes! She is so beautiful, and love to see all the indigenous features in this film 💖
@@christmastiger yes! My daughters immediately gravitated to Isabelle. We had a convo about paying attention to how a person behaves versus how they look and present themselves. Isabelle may look like a perfect princess but the way she treats Mirabel (and Dolores in the Bruno song) shows her true colors.
@@missbeans Yep.. So True..Looks can be deceiving..
She has the darkest skin among the siblings 💁🏾♀️
One thing that struck me so hard when re-watching this movie with some friends is how Antonio's first line in the movie is a very worried "What if it doesn't work?". Because he's the one next in line to get a door, he's also grown up with an immense pressure seeing how other's treat Mirabel, feeling like he HAS to get a power or be pushed to the side as she's been. He's been robbed of the chance to have any excitement about it, just anxiety :(
Worst part? I don't think it's how the others would treat him, he's specifically scared of Abuela. Because this is his birthday, a gift should be a wonderful thing, but instead he went into hiding. He's probably heard all week how everything needs to go "perfect" and the next morning we see the first thing he does with his power is try to please her specifically since she comes to the table already wondering how to put his power to use. And then, despite Abuela telling Mirabel to stay out of things, we see Antonio's animals helping her. Even though he doesn't reveal he knew what was going on until they needed a space to work in, I'm sure he knew since the night of his party that something was wrong but was too scared to show it because of how Abuela talked down to Mirabel when she got caught.
About Dolores, Bruno was absolutly right about his vision, Isabella was betrophed to Dolores's true love.
Also you have to remember that Bruno got his gift at 5yo. A small child running around trying his gift or asking innocent questions. If he tells you that you are gonna break a leg but you don't know when is worse than suddenly breaking a leg. Can you try to escape your own future or do you live in fear waiting for it to happen.
Isabella's life is bound by the expectation of Abuela, Luisa sees her own worth in her power and nothing else and nobody places any expectation in Mirabel as she is a normal human.
Also everyone who has powers has them embroided on their clothes Bruno has Hourglasses, Julietta cooking utensils, Pepa has suns, Isabella has flowers, Dolores has soundwaves, Luisa has weights and Camilo has chameleons for example. Mirabel shares butterflies with Abuela, the candle and there are butterflies on her grandfathers portrait. So Mirabel seems to be the next Keeper of the Miracle in a way or the next Matriarch.
But Mariano never actually proposes to Isabela. They were never betrothed.
to add to the butterfly: a butterfly lead Abuela’s sight to Pedro pretty much. and the butterfly was important with the vision/when Mirabel mended things with Abuela. literally a kaleidoscope of butterflies flies around then when they embrace. the song lyrics in those moments are talking of caterpillars and butterflies which symbolizes the transformations for the family/Mirabel becoming the next Matriarch.
Mirabel’s gift is that people around her burst into song and dance, revealing their innermost feelings, and no one sees this as strange including her.
Yes, this. Thank you.
Watch Zoey's extraordinary playlist. Something similar happens and the music/dancing on the show is amazing. :)
So basically her power is being a Disney Princess according to Enchanted (which translate very closely to Encantada or having an "enchantment"-> Encanto)
The problem is is that the singing and dancing still happened after the gifts were lost. However, you do get to see what her gift actually is later in the movie
"no one sees this as strange, including her" hilariously, Mirabel does see it as strange. If you watch her during Isabella and Luisa's numbers being the more surreal sections, Mirabel looks confused or scared or trying to grab onto things which characters don't normally do during the "fun" songs in other movies. Usually they get tossed around playfully because these moments are supposed to be full of whimsey.
The colour thing I think is to help the audience quickly see who belongs on each side of the family. Merabels family are all wearing cool tones.. so blues and purples. Pepa's family are wearing warm colours like yellow, oranges and reds. I think is like a film shortcut to help the audience figure out who is who while we don't know their names. Also as a bonus merabels Mum wears blue and Pepa wears yellow and Bruno is in the middle with green. Think that's cool as yellow and blue make green. Fun
That is a detail I hadn't noticed! So Bruno's family was supposed to be the connection between the cool blues and the warm yellows.
Classic costuming trick - that’s why the Jets and the Sharks are in opposing color schemes in West Side Story.
And if you notice Abuela is wearing a cooler more purple toned red so she has the cool from Mirabel’s family and also the warm from Pepa’s
I don't think they want people to keep track of the families though. Keeping track would have been so much easier if the intro song had been slightly less chaotic. I like that it was chaotic because obviously Mirabel was trying to distract from herself, but I didn't actually learn anything about the family, which was the point. It did make the family feel a lot bigger than it was, which I think was intentional, but it was really confusing so if they really wanted us to know who belonged to which family they should have tried to show us from the beginning. It's only 2 families of 5, Bruno and Abuela, it's really not that hard to keep track of but they made it overwhelming so that you don't even try. If they don't want you to keep track because they want the family to feel bigger than it is why would they color code it to help the audience keep track? I guess maybe to give you a bit of balance?
I also thought it was interesting how Isabella's was a really light lavender purple until after she realized she didn't have to do as abuela had wanted her to and in the end she became blue like the rest of her family rather than the mix of abuela and her family
my thought was that Casita is actually Abuelo Pedro (his soul), since the house was build on his sacrifice and it has its own character. I just like the thought that he is also watching over his family, and still being a part of it in this way.
Also like I never see people mention this but the butterfly is seen when they’re showing the grandparents meet like across the crowd so I kind of interpreted the miracle as like his essence or something and when the abuela started to kind of put the pressure on the family it was his way of giving her like a reality check she even says it at the end when they’re in the river like “i’ve been asking Pedro to help me but he gave me you”
I wondered this same thing. It would be an interesting twist on living in a "haunted" house.
Genius
Dolores literally sings “always leaving the family with prophecies they couldn’t understand” in the Bruno song. I think his gift was just really hard for him and as he said “wasn’t really helping the family” witch is the cardinal sin to the Abuela
This also speaks to how our inner blessings, if not accepted and offered love and comprehension, can easily turn into curses that prevent us from being who we really are.
I'm glad you touched on Pepa with the anxiety spiral idea, I feel like the impact on her is sometimes overlooked compared to Mirabel, Luisa and Isobela. Spending your whole life not allowing yourself to feel any negative emotions for fear of causing a (in her case literal) storm must be so tough.
mirabel's "power" is pretty explicitly casita itself. she's the one who is in sync with the house the most, and she's the only other family member aside from abuela alma who's associated with butterflies (even baby mirabel's celebration outfit has butterflies all over it). the candle has the butterfly emblazoned on it, alma has butterfly motifs in her skirt, mirabel has butterflies on her skirt and on her blouse, casita has butterfly designs all over it. that's why mirabel's the one who can help heal the cracks and why casita starts tearing itself apart during the argument with abuela alma: the two mistresses of the house were at such odds it was literally tearing the house apart. we can also infer that mirabel became the mistress of the house because antonio's gift is stated in the movie as being the first gift they have to "find a use for." mirabel just wants antonio to be happy and enjoy his gift, that's why the animal obsessed five-year-old got the ability to talk to animals. every other power beforehand is something that would have been useful during alma and pedro's escape from violence. oh, and her doorknob becomes the catalyst for the new casita. abuela saw to the family's physical well-being, now mirabel sees to their emotional and spiritual well-being.
also the color coding is 100% so you can visually tell who's a sibling and who's a cousin. mirabel's side of the family is in cool jewel tones while pepa's side is in warm yellows/oranges while bruno's in earth tones.
Oh my goodness, this makes too much sense!
Does that make Bruno visually kind of the "odd one out?" since he's the only one in earth tones at all (with no direct descendent?"
@@brandiarmstrong2902 yep. he's visually distinct however green is considered a warm/cool tone, it's very easy for it to blend one way or the other which puts him between both his sisters. that said, he's not entirely the odd one out, mirabel has her green glasses.
@@BadgerPride89 True. I've worn glasses since 6th grade, and I never saw anything quite so cool as those. Even turquoise, purple and black marbling on mine can't top her green ones. At least I know now why BillyBinges felt so comfortable calling her Esmerelda!
I am honestly liking this bc it seems like u put so much effort into writing this- are u a lawyer or journalist or something 😭
Also I absolutely need to know what everyone else’s rooms look like. Is Louisa’s room a massive gym? Is delores’ room a sound proof room to give her some rest? Is Camilo’s room a bunch of mirrors to practice his shape shifting? I must know
According to concept art, Lusia’s room is a big stoney gym with a secret unicorn theme park inside. Not sure about the others, though.
Bruno must not have gotten many visitors to his "vision cave," since the journey gives off mad "your princess is in another castle" vibes.
I believe that it was confirmed on Twitter that Dolores' room does in fact have soundproofing
@@aci6737 but she said that she heard Luisa’s eye twitching all night
@@maia.papaya hey I'm not the one who makes the rules, I just follow them
I also want to comment on the fact that a lot of the main characters are altos. Which is very different from the usual soprano protagonists in Disney. I love having songs in my register that are fun to sing and are comfortable. It made me really happy to hear! 😁
Me toooooo!!!
Lin Manuel Miranda writes great alto songs - except that all of these songs fall in the “break” or bassagio! Aka the notes between chest voice and head voice. Much harder to sing than it seems! But I still love singing them!
Right? As a guy, I was thrilled to be able to sing Pepa's, Dolores's, and Mirabel's parts without going into falsetto much if at all.
I noticed this too!! Very cool.
Yesss!! As a low-mezzo this makes me so happy to be able to sing songs without having to warm up. 😆
I also think Encanto did a good job with introducing "triplet mythology". There are a lot of "luck" and "magic" stories that begin with triplets and Encanto follows that.
Alao, I feelclike I was the only one to notice that Mirabel was always meant to mend the family and also Casita, with clues from the beginning. You see, she SEWS. And what do you do when you sew? You stitch things together, mend things, and also CREATE things. Its perfect.
Oh, also, Mirabel unknowingly knew that Antonio's gift would have to do with animals. She gave him the stuffed jaguar and mentioned that he loved animals.
I feel like in my theory, the gifts are given based on what the person with gifts want or like to do, since Antonio likes animals, his ability to communicate with animals are perfect, or it could be that those gifts could be predetermined since birth, and how their personality camr to be was because of the gifts. Another example, Camilo likes to entertain, prank and tell stories, the abilities to shapeshift is PERFECT for that. Dolores has super hearing, she often gossips and eavesdrop on people from miles away (although I guess that comes with the gift). Just a theory doe
27:00 I don't think that Bruno's vision has two branches at all. He and Mirabel misinterpreted the vison, because its not either, but both. The hous cracks, a yellow butterfly shows up (Abuela's memories) and the house is made whole by Mirabel at the end.
Right, they naturally assumed both couldn't be true, but didn't account for the magical ending.
the "What could I do if I just knew it didn't need to be perfect?
It just needed to be? And they let me be?" in Isabel's song is the thing that struck me the most, coming from a family of overachievers. the idea that I could just be ME, not a doctor, nor engineer, not someone with a high paying job, just Me, shook me to the core.
I think the creators had Antonio get his gift so that Mirabel can have her song “Waiting on A Miracle” or rather what it stands for. The song is the first sign that we see Mirabel isn’t okay with her not getting a gift (which is the first one we see the cracks in the house) and near the end when Mirabel and Abuela were arguing, the cracks are magnified. Even after they stop fighting, the cracks keep spreading because Mirabel already said how Abuela was disappointed than Mirabel didn’t get a gift (as if it was her fault somehow)
The extra “salt in the wound” is that BEFORE Mirabel gets her gift, Abuela tells her that her gift will be as special as she is, but she didn’t get one. However, almost immediately AFTER Antonio gets his gift, Abuela says the same thing to him and Mirabel has that moment of proudness and jealousy and sadness and anger all wrapped into one which comes out in the song.
So true
Of the three sisters, I definitely related to Luisa in a deep way. During her song, though it was peppy and upbeat, it literally had me in tears. The hidden silent suffering of carrying the burdens of the family, all while pretending that it's easy or not too heavy. Very much a therapy session like you said haha
Somehow Lin was able to sneak in the theme of intergenerational trauma with the catchiest Disney songs ever 😂
39:16 and 41:55, when Ben pronounces *Encanto* correctly and then "corrects" himself... Guys, it's okay, it's not cultural appropriation to pronounce Spanish words as Spanish words. 😄 Also, I agree with Ben on music catchiness. Songs in my head after first watch? Check. To your last question, saw it and loved it!
Okay good cuz I'm over here like, "I thought I knew how Spanish worked, am I pronouncing it wrong???"
I do think Mirabel was "chosen" because of her innate qualities: her deep love for her family, and profound compassion and empathy let her help each member of the family and eventually heal their relationships (Luisa, Isabella, Bruno, Abuela Alma), in ways the others couldn't. I think the house chose her to be Abuela's successor, the next leader of the family, who doesn't have a special "power" because the whole house and family are her power.
I just wish it was half an hour longer! We needed more songs with Pepa, Julieta, Dolores, Camilo and maybe even Bruno and Antonio? I was so sure we were gonna have more songs like Luisa's and Isabela's but alas. Apart from that criticism, near PERFECTION in my eyes!
Yeah it was short in my opinion as well..hopefully they will make a banger sequel in a few years!
@@definitelydarkk hopefully!
I have a theory
So Abuela has no powers but in her darkest moment by the lake she founded the house and the magic and leads her family
Mirabel was not given powers but in her darkest moment by the lake, with a push from Abuela, Mirabel leads her family to build up the house, Mirabel is the one the house chose to be the next leader
its the only explanation that makes sense
30:04 Actually, I've heard from some people that in Colombia, rain on a wedding is like a bad omen, as in the marriage will fail, so when Bruno says it "looks like rain", what he MEANS is "you look worried", but what Pepa THINKS he means is "Your marriage will fail", which stresses her out so much that she creates a hurricane. We know Bruno didn't really mean harm because it was clearly an offhanded comment, and Bruno needs to perform a whole ritual beforehand if he wants to see the future. I'm clearly overthinking the haha funny rat man, but it's interesting nonetheless.
"Haha Funny Rat Man" is a good band name. 👍
Lin Manuel Miranda does for Disney exactly what Alan Menken and Howard Ashman did. A good musical has songs that further the plot, not halt it. If a story completely has to stop just for a song to play it’s not a good song for a musical. Lin understands this so well, his songs are almost like dialogue. The story can’t function without them. He even got a writing credit for Encanto because his songs were THAT essential to the plot. It really feels like we’re in a second renaissance right now without even knowing it.
I think you used the wrong word. 'Detrimental' means "tending to cause harm" The word I think you were going for was 'essential'
But that is a cool fact :D
Not to be pedantic, but detrimental means damaging. You wanted something like "essential".
@@laurenpeabody5610 yeah I feel like they might have been going for instrumental? which would add in a nice pun so win-win
@@laurenpeabody5610 lollll thank you 😂 English is not my first language, oops! 😅
@@Vexmybeloved_ No problem :)
Prediction: Disney+ will create an animated series called “The Madrigals” with each episode diving into specific characters.
I hope it’s in the style of Tangled the animated series
Would subscribe for that
I would love that
Oh, I hope so! Be on the lookout, fingers crossed... Or as Bruno would say, "Knock knock knock knock knock, knock on wood!"
I’m not crazy about that animation style, but that will probably happen because it’d be too hard for them to use the same animation as the movie
My only complaint about the movie is that we didn’t get to see more from Pepa’s side of the family/see the burdens that’s she, Camilo, and Dolores face. I think that would have further driven home the point, let us see more of mirabel’s dynamic with the rest of the family, and give those great characters more screen time
Agree. But in all fairness, they can only make the movie so long and with so many characters, they can only give each of them so much h screen time. So I understand why we didn't see more of them, however I'd happily watch it and enjoy it if it were longer and gave them all even more depth.
I would be very happy if they made a series about life after the movie or something where they explored all of that. It would be nice to see how Dolores reacted to gaining her gift, suddenly being able to hear everything. Or how Camilo struggles with himself because of his power. Or how Pepa has to shove down all her emotions or only be upset when it’s convenient for the town. (I also wanna see everyone else’s rooms 😊)
That could've been a treat opportunity to get some more unique music into the movie too. For example, maybe a song about Dolores hearing everything before and during the dinner instead of just jumping to the meal and people whispering around the table, or a song about the two mothers later in the movie to establish some more pressure in the family.
I can think of about 8 movies I'd pay good money to see with these characters. Maybe they'll do an animated series ala Lilo and Stitch the Series?
As a disabled person, I really resonated with mirabel. Like how her parents keep reassuring her that she did not have to prove herself, but she still keeps trying really hard to help her family, is what happened to me a lot. also abeula being kinda resentful towards her throughout the movie is also relatable to me. I really loved how in the end, she ended up accepting the fact that she did not have a gift, instead of finding it, like how every other movie does.
i actually found that this 'pressure from above' under which all the family members except the abuela seem to suffer is specifically visualised through the abuelas interactions with pepa. because pepa is just running around with all her emotions and since, thanks to her gift, she cant keep them to themselves everyone notices what she is feeling. and whenever she has 'a cloud', like a negative emotion, is excited, anxious or angry, her abuela always says 'calm down, you have a cloud' and it has impacted pepa so much, that she just tries to only create clear skies (as seen right before the 'we dont talk about bruno' song) that she sort of oppresses all her other emotions. and at the end, with bruno and her husband felix saying that she should let everything out and with the scene of her and felix dancing under one of her clouds and everyone supporting it, its just the final visual tell for the character development that the whole family has gone through. another moment where the controlling nature of the abuela shines through is a very subtle move when the whole family is eating breakfast and the topic of isabelas engagement to mariano arises (dolores says 'tonight, he wants five babies'), isabela grows pink flowers and one white flower on her head and her abuela stands above her, talking about how perfect and good the match is for everyone, and plucks the white flower, thus letting it fall to the ground. this symbolizes for one isabelas pressure of being perfect, since one flower was out of place, and for another the issue of the abuela, who sees the imperfection and litterally tries to root it out. i'm just amazed and awestruck with the detailing and underlying metaphors in this movie that sort of only become clear after watching the movie several times.
28:00 it's not necessarily that Bruno's vision about Dolores turns out to be "wrong" per se; I think it's more along the lines of the listener always has an opportunity to choose what to do with the information they hear from Bruno since his visions are always rather open ended. Bruno tells Dolores her true love is "out of reach" and betrothed to another; he never says Dolores will never be with the man of her dreams. While Dolores could have easily accepted that she will never be with Mariano, Dolores ultimately chooses to pursue and win him (once realizing Isabela isn't a factor, of course), if that makes sense.
Bruno could have seen the betrothal dinner and not its conclusion!
The candle that provides the Magic, IS Abuela's power, that's why her door not only shows her But the candle
I was thinking that too though because of the flashback but at the end she didn't get the same candle back or a new one to restore the house it just came back because the community rebuilt it.
@@s-wo8781 I think the magic needed to move on to a new host... because Abuela's not going to be there forever... she's getting older, I think that Mirabel is her successor and that her source of power is represented on the front door of Casita... It was her placing the doorknob that brought the house back to life, that door Became Her Door...
If you look at everyone's doors there is symbology of their power, Abuela and the Candle (the start of the magic), Luisa having dumbells, Isabella's flowers, Julieta's cooking, Pepa's having thunderbolts and a cloud, the soundwaves that represent Delores's hearing, Carmilo's having 3 different humanoid shapes, Antonio's animals, the hourglass on Bruno's; and on the Front door is Mirabel in the foreground with her family behind her... This is Her Door
If you are the Keeper of something, you are powerful in that regard.
As the magic expands with each new Madrigal, Abuella responds by keeping as hard as she can. She comes back in the end and says she's sorry for holding on too hard.
Being the Keeper *has been* her power.
Now the magic needs the next Keeper, and that's Mirabel. In effect, she was groomed for that by not having a power. And maybe Abuella saw it all along, she just didn't know what she was seeing.
Nah. The candle is gone by the end and yet the magic returns to everything. The candle isn't actually important. It isn't the first time they've put lots of focus on something in their movies that actually doesn't matter at all by the credits. 😅
@@staceyhunt6769 The candle was empowered by Pedro's Sacrifice & Alva's prayer, it held the magic, making Abuela keeper of it, if you notice when it goes out the magic is gone UNTIL Mirabel the next keeper, Abuela Alva's successor, brings the magic back, I like how someone else I've read put it, Mirabel's gift is being the Embodiment of the Magic, magic created through despair, hope, and Love...
In the first case the candle was born of Alva's desperation at losing Pedro, the hope that Pedro held in his sacrifice, and the Love the two shared... In Mirabel's case it is her despair at not having a gift that she keeps shoving down, the hope she shows by always moving forward, and the Love and Empathy she has for her entire family.
She even shows it for Isabela by the end, I think her bitter envy toward her sister is why the prophecy needed them to reconcile... Not only did it allow her to rekindle her love for her sister and to feel her pain, but it also exposed the real problem that was Abuela's heavy handed control over the magic... Showing that it was time for a new generation to take over
With due respect I want to say my opinion, actually Bruno’s vision of Dolores is true. She sang that he said her that her true love would be betrothed(engaged )to another not married. And Isabella was engaged to Mariano. So I think Bruno saw the vision correct
So my theory is that Mirabel actually got a power, the power of leadership, and the reason the door closed upon her was because her grandmother was still alive. This makes Mirabel actually really important, she is just not ready yet. This would also make her a Disney princess (Even though i still don’t think she fits that category), as she will inherit the «throne» one day.
This is the first “Mirabel has powers” theory that makes sense in my mind, because it accounts for the door not opening. Good job!
Friendship is magic? XD 🐎🌟
Yeah, I can see what you mean. Mirabel does have a gift/power, but it’s realistic (I know Louisa has strength which is a real power, but she can pick up big stuff like animals and houses with ease). The house not giving her a power with a door meant that the house blessed her with leadership, as in she kept the family together and did the best she could to help everyone out. And in the end, she did. She’s the heart of the cards! Again, I love they realistic nature that Mirabel is special without powers, she’s got leadership skills to keep her family together
I think it was also the wrong door, Mirabel's is the casita's front door.
@@benitron1 Yeah, this, at the end she straight up weaves magic back into the house, much like how the grandmother/grandfather did, and this is exactly what I felt like at that moment, that she's to be the next "leader" of the house when the grandma dies.
One of my favorite little details in the film is during “we don’t talk about Bruno” when Dolores is singing about still hearing him “stuttering and mumbling” you can actually see Bruno in the balcony walking across and at one point straight up dancing to the song.
Wait what
Definitely one of my favourite Disney movies! I loved that there was no twist villain, and the closest thing to an antagonist was Abeula, but once you learn about her past, her actions become understandable. The main conflict was around the family's past.
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Fantastic film
Mine too
I really loved that too, because it’s another way that they manage to represent a real family - there are no villains, no one is completely wrong, but everyone has their own motivations and perspectives that make them act the way they do, and no matter what conflict may arise, the love that binds them is always there to heal them 💗
I noticed this too! I was talking to my friend about this movie yesterday and we both agreed that the root of the main conflict is trauma and how parents with unaddressed trauma can unwittingly project that trauma onto their children (and grandchildren in this case). The main antagonist of Encanto is Abuela's *trauma* and I loved that!
I say Encanto is a great movie that talks about how everyone is special, no matter if they have a gift or not, but what always matters is to never pressure anyone in your family to uphold expectations. One must let everyone pursue or do what they want to do, otherwise the pressure will cause everyone to feel a burden in some way. Like with Louisa, she’s strong and capable of lifting super heavy stuff (houses and mountains, etc), but the grandmother of the family doesn’t see that as being “good enough,” as Mirabel says to her grandmother. And going to Mirabel, even though she doesn’t have a supernatural gift like everyone else, she does have a gift (as someone else mentioned): leadership. She’s keeping the family together as best as she can, and she’s able to help Louisa out, despite not liking her before. And at the end, she’s the one that brings the house back to life after putting the doorknob in, she’s keeping the family in check, she’s the heart of the cards, she’s the true leader that helps and keeps her family happy and well. Mirabel not being the kind of Disney Princess with a supernatural gift, or having a high class family (if that even makes sense) makes her the first Disney Princess that’s the most realistic of the bunch. She doesn’t need a gift to be special, she is special for helping her family out. That’s what I love about Encanto, and I hope that movie wins some awards for that
I find it interesting that each member of the family represents a role in a “toxic family”
For example Bruno is the scapegoat, Isabella is the “golden child” and Pepa’s feelings are always gaslighted and her feelings aren’t taken seriously. And Abuela is the abuser, mentally.
Fun fact: while Bruno sings "let it in, let it out, let it rain, let it snow, let it go," they actually put the little piano intro from Let It Go into the backing track for that part. It's really easy to hear if you're listening to just the instrumental track, but you can definitely hear it in the original, too, if you're paying attention. This is by far my favorite Disney easter egg ever.
I feel like the house gives them the specific power to help with their insecurities. Like maybe Antonio is scared of people; talking to them or being surrounded. So the house gave him the ability to talk to animals to get him out of his shell. The brother of Antonio who can shape shift is nervous to be himself, or believes himself to not be good enough. When the grandmother says we need another Jose, not will you help Jose. The mother who heals is scared to see her family in pain, something she grew up seeing, so she is able to heal everyone. Bruno wants to protect the family from never having the past happening again, sees the future.
Oh this is good!
Camilo. Antonio's big brother is called Camilo. He's Mirabel's age but like a couple of weeks to a couple of months older.
Considering how much Lin Manuel Miranda loves references and subtle meaning, there has got to be SO MUCH to notice and unpack here. I feel like I'll need to watch it 5 times to start to get to grips with it.
I think it was important that Antonio get his power and show how selfless and supportive Mirabel is. It gives insight to her personality.
3:15 I would argue that for the same reason that casita could not help inside Bruno's room: because there was a family disconnection. Two things come to mind: casita is a conscious being with limited control over his physical body (the building itself) and as the candle was being consumed also its own existence. In other words, Casita did the best it could.
As a person who identifies as neurodiverse, I felt deeply connected with Mirabel throughout the movie. The fact that there was never an explanation for why she didn't get a gift is really beautiful and real; most of us who are different simply will never get an answer that explains or even justifies why we have to work so much harder to do the same things other people seem effortlessly capable of. At the end of the movie, the family finally comes to understand and validate Mirabel's experience, and sees all of her beyond just someone who didn't get a gift.
Also, I've seen a lot of thoughts about how Mirabel's "gift" is empathy, leadership, etc. While Mirabel definitely has these traits, I would argue that it was her not getting a gift that allowed these to be cultivated. The rest of the family was basically told what their talent would be when they got their gift, and those are the only skills that were really nurtured or encouraged. Mirabel, meanwhile, had to discover her strengths on her own.
I agree. I don't really like the whole "Oh, Mirabel had a gift, it is this" because that kills the idea behind the movie, imo.
The reason why Mirabel isn't special, is because she doesn't have a gift. Why is Mirabel special, is because she doesn't have a gift.
Imo, the movie is about emotional neglect, specifically from Abuela, and social isolation within a family unite.
The reason why she is the one to destroy and rebuild the house, is because the abuse has to end, not because she is special in any way. She is the one being abused, she is the one to call it out.
Sidenote, I am also neurodivergent and I also really related to Mirabel and I loved the scene with her and her little cousin
We just making terms up now?
@@ethans8296 neurodiverse is an old word, numbskull
@@ethans8296 Well, all words Are made up, and neurodiverse is also one these. It was popularised in the 1990s, and is used to describe people whose minds work differently than most, but since we have realised that this isn’t a bad thing, we use the word neurodiverse, instead of whatever other words we used to use.
The line that seemed to hit me the hardest in Surface Pressure (Louisa’s song) was “Give it to your sister and never wonder, if the same pressure would have pulled you under-“ I mean,
Bruno was not wrong about Dolores, Isabella WAS going to marry the guy of Dolores’ dreams… until Maribel intervened and CHANGED Bruno’s vision, just as his vision of Maribel was changing, which was unique to anything he had ever experienced.
I don't think that Bruno's vision for Dolores changed. Bruno said the love of her life would be just out of reach and betrothed (not married) to another, he didn't say that he would stay that way forever
Betrothed just means engaged, and they were technically engaged for a bit! (Families pushing for marriage I'd say is a form of engagement) So he was not wrong at all.
@@talpine1225 but there never was a complete proposal, Maribel’s actions prevented the proposal that Isabela would have accepted because she thought she had to. Bruno foresaw the proposal, not Maribel’s interruption.
betrothed does not mean wedded.
@@SGT_VES I don't think Mirabel changed the future that Bruno saw. For example, what he saw in the vision of her was her at the center of Casita breaking and being repaired and both of those things end up happening. He just didn't understand when/how they were going to happen and so didn't know what the vision meant, only that Mirabel was going to be important to the future of the family miracle. He actually talks about how the vision is showing things out of order when they're viewing it together in Antonio's room.
The point about the proposal being interrupted is an interesting point though. Were they actually "betrothed"? Without seeing what his vision was or knowing what he actually said to Dolores it's hard to say what the truth is. Bruno seeing the proposal, but not the aftermath could be one explanation, or perhaps Bruno told her that the man of her dreams would be "promised" to another and over the course of the ~10 years he's been gone Dolores mis-remembered it as "betrothed".
What I love about Encanto is how so many people see themselves in *different* characters. It speaks to how well written each character is that they have distinct enough traits to be relatable separately.
From a POC perspective I see it as a critique on toxic familial traits. How they treat Bruno reminds me of how family members just try not to talk about members with mental health issues. That family member in Soul Food who stayed in his room the whole time just suddenly comes to mind, but this was a more extreme case.
The grandma though, boy I get where she's coming from but she caused a lot of problems in her family.
The sacrifice that Pedro Madrigal made reminded me of Lily Potter’s sacrifice. They both sacrificed their lives for their children and their children were then blessed. With Harry Potter not dying to Voldemort and the Madrigals literally having magical powers.
My Encanto theory… Mirabel’s “power” is that she becomes the magic. When her door disappears it’s actually her becoming the magic! The reason the house is breaking is because her family does not appreciate her. Even though she does all she can to stay happy every time someone mentions something about her not having a gift her feelings get hurt . Resulting in the cracks that Bruno has been patching since her ceremony. The house completely brakes and the magic disappears when heart is finally broken by her grandma. Just a thought.
That makes a lot of sense
I would like to add that I believe the only reason her cousin got his gift was because he held her hand before touching his door.
And Bruno patching the cracks parallels him protecting Mirabel after getting the prophecy
Ooooo I like this idea. It makes so much sense. I mean while everyone is wondering what his gift would be, if he got one. She was reasuring and gave him a stuff leopard. Like dude, forshadowed by Mirabel herself. But I still think she should've gotten a bedroom.
@@danielledouglas99 the box she decorated also had a jungle theme and the animals
There's a tiny easter egg type surprise in the background during "We Don't Talk about Bruno." Watch the background when Dolores started singing. You get a quick glimpse of Bruno in silhouette in the back glowing faintly green.
When I watched the movie the first time I thought Mirabel had a secret power that the house/candle hid for some reason.
She's an empath and can visualize people's real emotions as songs. For example, when her strong older sister was feeling the pressure drip drip drip she knew something was wrong her sister wasn't ready to open up, but Mirabel could feel her struggle and her powers showed her thru song.
Like zoeys extraordinary playlist lol
I’m happy they didn’t go in that direction personally
@@cassecorrea that’s a fun show. Did you see the Christmas special?
I feel like that is a storytelling technique, and not actually happening. Also, wouldn’t Mirabel get a door then?
@@VoidKing666 I did!
One thing that always stuck with me was Abuela’s line to younger Mirabel and Antonio during their ceremonies: “You have a gift that’s just as special as you are” (The exact words are slightly different when said to each of them but that’s the overall message). When Abuela says it to Antonia you see that Mirabel interprets that as “oh I don’t have a gift, so I must not be special”
Okay, I also want to draw attention to the motif of eyes - Abuela’s “open your eyes” at the beginning and end, Mirabel asking Abuela to open her eyes, even her name - “mira” denotes sight. It applies to so much, and it keeps growing as a motif / theme in my mind.
Oooh!!! So true-I LOVE that!
The most emotional moment in this movie is when the house died… I was crying when it happened the house is probably the best character in the movie.
The songs are the best part of this movie, especially We Don’t Talk About Bruno
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Surface pressure for me
The camilo's part is the best in my opinion
@@mk7893 mine too, though We Don’t Talk about Bruno is a close second. Lin-Manuel Miranda really went above and beyond on these songs.
@@amberbanuelos7053 wait Lin-Manuel Miranda wrote the songs?
So when Bruno tells Peppa that “it looks like rain” and then she creates a hurricane out of nerves over it… if that was their wedding day and Bruno didn’t go into hiding until after mirabelle didn’t get a gift on her 5th birthday then that means he spent about 10-11 years after peppa’s wedding with the family without explaining that incident
Maybe he tried more than once but every time he tried it only caused Pepa to get upset and cause destruction. So he stopped trying and was left with a bad reputation among the people, to ultimately disappear. Bruno is the most misunderstood character of all, even by himself.
I like that “someone would be chosen for this quest” idea above the other. Because the metaphor is generational trauma, it’s comforting that it CAN be anyone, its not a chosen one or could only happen once so-and-so was born-anyone can begin this healing and new foundation building. I think the reason it ended up being someone w/o a power is because in a family of powers what’s going to be the thing that forces them to see another way.
As we were watching the movie(my second watch, his first), during the scene with Mirabel and her ceremony, my husband basically said , "Oh, so she's so powerful doesn't need a gift. she must be the candle."
35:28. This is actually somewhat simple. Abuela caused the Miracle to falter resulting in Mirabel not getting a gift. This is due to Abuela's high expectations of her family and slow change into caring more about reputation than her family. Soon after Mirabel's door disappeared Abuela asked Bruno to have his vision. As everyone only thought bad of him rather than trying to help him figure out his visions, he hid it from the family and 'left' to protect Mirabel. Antonio is able to receive a gift as he asks for Mirabel to be with him and despite Abuela not wanting Mirabel to 'interfear', she helps him. This is when the miracle sees Mirabel's love for the family, grants Antonio a gift, and in my head cannon, helps Mirabel become the next head of the Madrigal family and Abuela's successor.
I like this. It also implies that perhaps, without Mirabel there, Antonio also would not have received a gift, thus perpetuating abuela's fears. Another subtle hint that Mirabel is the heir to the house.
The thing that is missing from most understanding of this movie is the true and horrific truth that, aside from Syria, Colombia has the highest number of internally displaced people due to the armed conflict among its government, far right groups, drug cartels and other factions. Abuela is not rigid and strict about the family and their intended roles because she cares about the family name or reputation- it's because they depend on them for their literal survival.
She held on too much to the miracle because she's deathly afraid of how vulnerable they are, as she says to Pedro's after Mirabel spoke of the cracks to Casita. If they lose their power, if the miracle fades, if the encanto crumbles, they will be lost again.
So I have an unpopular theory for why Mirabel didn't get her gift. (The popular theory being that she is meant to be the next candle holder and since the current one was still alive, Mirabel's powers didn't manifest yet).
My alternative theory is: MIRABEL unintentionally and very subtly DISRUPTED HER OWN GIFT GIVING CEREMONY. In the ceremony, every child is shown touching the candle, that is being held by Abeula, and then touching the door.
HOWEVER, Mirabel has a step, (that was deliberately animated imo - why else show it) inbetween. SHE RUBS HER HANDS ON HER DRESS BEFORE SHE TOUCHES THE DOOR (probably as a nervous tick). I think this could have interrupted the magic somehow - she rubbed off the magic. She did the ceremony wrong. That's why she didn't get a power.
She wasn't chosen, or so special that she wasn't given something special. It was a fluke. She made a mistake. And this set off a butterfly effect (see what I did there), that caused uncertainty, stress, pressure, anxiety, familial strain and ultimately Cassita, the family and the miracle falling apart.
Now as to what her powers could be, I don't really know.
I think all the characters probably showed small indications of what their power would be before they got it. Their powers are based on their personalities, not the other way around.
Antonio has a pet bird before he can talk to animals, Abuela was wishing for a miracle to save them and then she gained the ability to give miracles etc. This also comes through with Isabella and Louisa who have gifts according to their typical roles in the family.
So looking at Mirabel's personality, I know some other theories besides candle holder include strengthening or weaking other’s gifts, emotional healing rather than physical healing (which her mom can already do), or maybe something to do with transforming people, things or places in some other way, given all the butterfly symbolism.
But I'll leave that part up to @SuperCarlinBrothers to discuss.
I think Mirabell has a unique emotional intelligence. She is able to learn from and have compassion for those who have been the catalyst for her persecution. Everyone gather for a Madrigal family photo without noticing or having concern that she wasn’t in it.
Mirabell has a special connection to the house and magic, just like her grandmother. I think her power will prove to be as the new “matriarch” or the casita as her grandmother ages out. She gained perspective to maintain the magic of the household. You can see this as the center of the new magical doors at the end.
I don't think Bruno saw a vision that could go 2 ways, i think he saw 2 visions that were too close to eachother to properly interpret. He saw her breaking and rebuilding the house, and misinterpreted it.
For me, yes, this is the best animated film of the year. My daughters haven’t loved a movie to this level (watch at least once daily) since Moana. The animation is fun, the songs slap, and the story feels so relatable. The songs are probably the best part, even my two year old goes around the house telling we don’t talk about Bruno no no no, BUT it was her wedding day… kind of glad we didn’t see it in theaters just because we were all dancing to the songs and that could’ve been embarrassing.
This is so sweet! I'm glad my family is not the only ones where they are watching it daily and the whole family is singing the songs constantly, I have 5 nieces across three households and they all have been watching this movie on repeat daily, my sister bought my one niece all Encanto toys (including an Isabela doll who shares her namesake) and I recently bought some mini characters for my other nieces to play with their legos. I know covid impacted numbers for this movie but I hope Disney sees how well it's been going over especially since it was released on Disney Plus.
@@christmastiger I hope so too, I’ve been seeing tons of videos on here of reactions to the movie and songs, and every one of them has raved about the brilliance of it all.
"I'm pretty sure I'm worthless if I can't be of service" punched me in the heart. I boohoosnotface cried.
I'm the middle child, the only one taking care of our sick mom (in addition to working full-time and being in grad school full-time) and I truly never feel like I'm enough for these people.
I've heard a theory that Abuela FORCED Felix and Pepa to have Antonio because she was so torn by Mirabel not getting a gift. Pepa would've been 45 when she had Antonio after all. People usually don't have kids that late of their own accord. I'm guessing Camilo is just slightly older than Mirabel as both are stated to be 15 years old. Also Also, it's ISABELA, not Isabel lol.
@@ShadowSailor they could have struggled to get pregnant because of her age
On Twitter one of the writers confirmed this theory is false.
(And good thing cause this theory is messed up & would immediately bump abuela up to a villain rather than an antagonist
While watching the movie, and especially during We Don't Talk About Bruno, I kept thinking of self-fulfilled prophecy. You know something is going to happen and you don't do anything to change it, or it gets stuck in your head that it's going to happen so it does. I think this movie has a really interesting take on showcasing that, and the butterfly effect.
theory: the candle/butterfly/casita are all one and are all kind of a reincarnation of abuelo pedro and mirabel is "special" because she always had the closest relationship to Casita and therefore to Pedro and so when Abuela says at the end "I asked my pedro for help and so he sent me you" is actually literal. Because Abuela talked to the candle asking "what do I do?" but he'd already helped by not giving mirabel powers etc
ngl I feel like the “why mirabel..” is a relic of western storytelling, I don’t necessarily believe there’s a why and that isn’t for me a bad thing. It did skip her and the story is the causal sequence of events that happened in direct relation to it. I don’t think it was predetermined as well, Bruno says her future was undecided and he only came to have this vision after she didn’t get a door, this leads me believe the future in this universe is undecided, so previous to that night she might have been supposed to get powers who knows. Its a soft magic system so it does be like that imo.
My conclusion though is that even if theres a hidden reason that hasn’t been well communicated by the writer (something that can be critiqued) Mirabel doesn’t need to be “special”. I think the movie does work best if it considers us special just for existing and not for our unique roles in our families or communities, because if its shes not different than the others and the “im worthless if I don’t fulfill my role” cycle would continue. To quote Isabela “what could I do if I just knew it didn’t need to be perfect, It just needed to be and they let me be”.
I have been watching you for way too many years of my life
Too many? Man, I've been watching for years and it's never enough 🤣 these guys are so wholesome and hilarious, it will never be "too much " ❤❤❤
Never too many
I have been watching for a quarter of my life.
never too many but like i can do "hey brotherr" in pitch and perfect timing with both and also have been watching since the 'tech fusion' sound logo i dunno what to call it not the one before this one the one before that
@@VoidKing666 heh i've watched for over two thirds of my life
I absolutely loved it, Luisa is a queen and I just want to hug her! My only major complaint is how little time we got to explore some of the characters and their personalities and gifts, which makes me want to see a sequel or an animated Disney+ series to go further into the characters deffinetly 98/100
If it's not considered "the best" it sure is my new favorite. The songs were phenomenal
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There was definitely a butterfly motif tying Mirabel to the candle. Similar to the sun motif in Tangled. I also think there’s something with her having the embroidery all over her clothes and belongings. The thread that holds the family together.
The yellow butterfly is a nod to Gabriel Garcia Marquez, the Nobel Prize winning Colombian author who uses magic realism in his stories.
But my theory is that Casita didn't give her a gift so she could teach Abuela that it's not just about the powers
That and Mirabel had the right qualities to handle not having powers. IDK if Antonio or Luisa or anyone would have been able to handle it. Mirabel is such a hopeful and loving and resilient character. That is what makes her special. 🥰
@@YukiSilverFox72 i agree, i mean we saw Luisa's reaction to losing her gift, I would hate to have seen what she would be like if she didn't get one in the first place.
I'm dyslexic, in my family I was never seen as able as my older siblings, and our mother was a narcissist who needed her children to be perfect to show how good she was. I could never measure up to any of my siblings accomplishments, so to save my sanity I went no contact with all of them, as they all competed with each other to be the best. It was toxic and I only learned to like myself after getting away from them all.
This could be the one for 2021, and it oughta be a turning point for recent works from the studio.
Disney Plus helped I'm sure. The family's conflicts about expectations ring loud, and the ending was pretty sweet too.
What do you mean by the one for 2021?
@@IcyDiamond Like they said, best animated film of the year
Definitely
the one problem about this movie changing the way disney makes animated films (I'd be totally down for if it does) is that it'd probably be another 10 years before anything actually changes because it takes so long for that kind of thing to happen in the animation business
Something that’s exclusively unique with this Disney movie that made it skyrocket in terms of my personal score, is that there wasn’t a a big adventure or quest the protagonist had to go on to solve the plot. It was all (quite literally) IN-HOUSE; there wasn’t an event that occurred that spurred the rest of the movie into action.
Through exposition and dialog the audience sees that the problem of the magic fading has been slowing building up overtime- it wasn’t suddenly falling apart because one specific thing happened.
I just loved that there wasn’t a big life changing adventure to go on, what happens WAS life changing but no one needed to GO anywhere to make it happen.
At first, I thought Mirabel had the power to experience people breaking out into song.
Ben saying encanto right then correcting himself to say it wrong is so funny
Anyone else hope that a TV series gets started about this family? I think that it could be at least 12 episodes long featuring each of the madrigals
Ooo I would for sure watch a tv series.
It's the battle between expectations and responsibility. All three daughters are very responsible people under the crushing weight of abuela's expectations so they just want to fit in the family's grand plan.
Also, I think Mirabel ends up inheriting abuela's power and becomes the new head of the family, which could mean that the candle is sensing that abuela was close to death, which makes it a liiiiiittle creepy. I do think that the power of the candle wavering was a signal of abuela's imminent death.
21:12 my theory is gift are given based on interest. Mirabelle starts off the movie listening to a story for grandparents her family. She Interact with the house like abuela. Her first song is about her family.
Mirabella's chosen because her love for her family and the house knew she'd be a good keeper.
Like the house chose the Doctor Doolittle powers for Antonio because he loves animals.
Or, even, Mirabel guided Casita to give Antonio the animals power - when she identified him as an animal person.
I watched Encanto about 4times till now and every time, I noticed a little tiny details which I didn't caught. This movie is the best animated told story, how ever I wished we had more time spent with other Madrigal family members. there are loads of opportunities in the story I feel left out because of time.
One of the few disney movies i want a 2nd one just about her aunts family
I think her parents were very underutilized
A 20 hour version... 😋
Lin Manuel Miranda said in an interview (on the podcast Disney’s For Scores) that the challenge of the movie was if they could KEEP all the characters. They easily could have dropped Pepa’s family entirely, but it was important for them to show this big, exciting family. So in other words, it was impossible to do justice to ALL the characters, but it’s integral to the story that they are there.
One thing that jumped at me in the scene with Isabella is how thoughtful they were of flipping the coin on the narrative. While the movie is a lot about "you can make great things happen without being considered gifted", that scene jumps out to me. Because all of a sudden the emotion seeping through is "with everything you got, how can you have problems?" and I feel like this is such an important moment in the movie. It makes it go from this view of the oppressed saving the world to realizing that while you might view someone as having a wonderful life, the truth can be very different from it. It was an amazingly made movie and I loved a lot of it.
Don't know about anyone else but this is how I viewed the relationship between the candle and the house: magic created candle > candle created house > the candle can effect the house as it created it, but not the other way around as the house is the creation not creator. So at the end the house can help get people to the candle, but it can't move the candle to the people, as it has no control over its creator
I just wish we could have spent some more time with the individual characters. I'd actually like to see a series with the characters. I know it would be a bit dark for Disney, but maybe set it 10-20 years after the movie with Mirabel assuming the responsibilities of head of household after Abuela Alma's death. (I believe this is why she didn't get a power because she was chosen by the house to succeed Alma.)
Elena of Avalor has dark elements in its beginning, but I've been tempted to watch it.
I like to think that the casita is the spirit of their Abuelo Pedro also I haven’t finished the video yet lol so idk if they mentioned this already but I think that the reason mirabel didn’t get a gift (yet) is because Abuela Alma is still alive and her gift is still somewhat I guess taken in a way and I believe when she passes either her door will disappear and be replaced and that door will be for mirabel or idk that door stays and another door appears for mirabel
Aubela's treatment of Bruno is the immediate catalyst for Mirabel not getting powers. The constant and continuous interpretation of his visions as harbingers of doom and as HIS FAULT overshadowed him as a person: it wasn't Bruno that mattered, it was the use of his powers to make others happy, which was impossible. So, when the house and the candle saw that all Mirabel wanted was to help without any idea of how (unlike everyone else who already has a plan or talent ala MLP), they gave her no magic. "THIS, the child, LOVE, that is your miracle. Not what you can do for others, not this house, not this valley, LOVE and FAMILY. You get no door, you get no new power, you get a PERSON."
And no one gets it. So, Bruno is given the vision of everything breaking apart but panics and quits before he sees that it all comes back together. And then he runs away, because that is the ONLY way he can possibly help his family. Did you notice not only does Mirabel lives in the tiny nursery with a five-year-old, she shares a toddler-size bed with him. She also appears to make her own clothes and have no other possessions. Mirabel is treated like and unwanted but tolerated pet by her family. This is as close to a Pixar movie as Disney has ever gotten... except Pixar wouldn't have given the magic back.
When Mirabel rebuilt that vision, I thought that she was supposed to break the old house so that they could expand or create something new, kind of like a phoenix dying to be reborn again more majestic than it's previous form. It looked like the new house had extra space for new rooms, which seemed to be running pretty tight considering that all the doors were already making a circle around the patio, so in a way, that might've been her true destiny, people were, as always, just afraid of change.
That, and maybe her power is to be the next matriarch/candlekeeper/abuela of the family, since the door that holds gandma's room doesn't have her name or powers (which she has none, much like mirabel), but her title and function, which could be taken over by anyone.
I was just discussing Lin Manuel with my mom the other day after I finally got her to see Encanto. He has been playing major rolls in Disney Music lately and I'm wondering if he may be an eventual replacement for Alan. Those are big shoes to fill and Lin Manuel has done a fantastic job so far.
I was so worried early on that Mirabel's "power" would be cracking the house.
It rather played into the house as its own entity better.
The feeling that she'd have a Deku/Shigaraki My Hero Academia style thing weighed on me for like the first half of the movie.
I think that the powers are granted by what the child want’s and their personality. Camilo is a trickster, Dolores is a gossip, the mother is caring, Antonio likes animals ect. I believe that mirabel already had what she wanted and was going to receive so she got no power. I don’t think that she will be a candleholder because of the fact that abuela had a door but mirabel doesn’t.
Mirabel does have a door tho, hers just has the whole family on it
I find it funny how Ben always starts pronouncing "Encanto" the way it is said in the movie (and in Spanish, I guess) and than corrects himself to say it in an American accent