@@benrodir2 that's because the movie used the premise as an excuse to get ad money and make a billon dollars. the book apparently states that pop culture just stopped developing after the 80's as a way to justify having what would be 60~ year old references coating the oasis by the time of the story.
@@Yal_Rathol Is that why he mentions Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and Firefly? The 80's stuff is just where the clues to the contest are. No one bitches about the 80's stuff in BTTF 2's future scenes which happens right around the time the book was released. That's just how nostalgia works. In the 80/90's they had a continuation of Leave it to Beaver on TV cause 50's nostalgia was big at the time.
I'll extend it to the author's follow-up sucked, too. Even worse since it was just Ready Player One, Take 2: Here's a List of Even More Things I Remember From the 80s.
This actually touches on something that I’ve been really hating about movies and media lately. The concept of referencing something that I already like, and by association, surely I must like this other thing, this other thing must easily be also good, because I like the source material or something that is referenced.
What pisses me of the most is how they incorrectly threw the holy hand granade of Antioch, they just wanted to put as many pop culture references as possible.
I thought I was going to hate this video, and be mad at the points made. Then he actually made some really great points, and I now agree with him... Great video!
Not to mention how the two days the Oasis is closed... Like how is that actually supposed to be beneficial? If you're get drunk/wasted only on weeknights, you're still an alcoholic.
Yes, but not as dangerously alcoholic. It is not a complete fix, it was just an easy way for the writing to say “yay we made the world a better place”.
Also isn’t the Oasis bascially the internet in that world and all sorts of business is done on the Oasis? So now for two days a week pretty much nothing can get done. It’d be like two days a week irl with no internet, phones, schools, businesses, etc.
lol yeah, that was a weird end, but like when you main conflict is that you don't want adds in your online world, yet got no explanation on where the money is coming from...it is a bit hard to put a sensible conclusion on there. And I kinda think a lot of people would be more pissed by the closing days that the adds there would have been. yeah no theres alot of dum stuff in there.
I only watched for the references and Simon Pegg ... That's all, it looks like a cool concept but definitely not the best storytelling or script ... Could have been changed to make it better but I'm not imaginative enough to do that.
I always wondered why I never could get into ready player one was. Then I listened to this and realized it because ready player one is just nice guy fan fiction.
@@mtnentertainment3454 but again, most people get told "hers a cool book about a virtual online world" I dont think anyone is selling it as a "niceguys fantasy" and not sure why you including r/nicegirls, im not really convinced many girls would be found of the arturs world view, and especially not the nicegirls XD
@@MouseGoat I'm not saying that's what it's being sold as, I'm saying that's what it IS, as in, that's what the writing portrays unintentionally. and I'm including the r/nicegirls because they have the same narcissism complex as nice guys
It's not like those other books. Where other books have stories, characters, and lessons that drone on and on, Ready Player One has as many pop culture references as Cheeto dust particles in a neckbeard's top grease layer. It's so progressive in its message in telling EA to go fuck itself while simultaneously selling their souls to EA. And our hero woos his dream girl with Monty Python quotes and entitlement, because life works that way. What a work of art! Almost as good as clogged toilet!
As someone who had to read the book for class, it wasn’t that good. Also, the MSN conversation you mentioned, was like 8 pages long, not just 1. It was hell
@@ColinFox I understand the want for higher quality reads, but I was being forced to read this goddamned book, so I figured eh, fuck it, I'll roll with this and enjoy what I can.
Addendum: the writer of the book even writes the female love interest as a reward more than anything else. He only gets to see her at the end of the final battle after he's 'won' and this is a deliberate choice of the writer. Rather than seeing her before and using that meeting to motivate the main character or something to that effect, nah, she's just a trophy basically.
@@claybrown1258 that is very primitive... he/she never said anything about men sacrificing their well being in order to protect women. its treating other person as trophies that he/she has problem with. if treating women as trophies are your thing.... then i really don't think you have the right to tell someone to remove themselves from the gene pool.
She chose to not have a relationship with him until the contest was done because she was getting distracted. She isn't a prize for him, she wants to win the prize herself and her relationship with him interferes with that. Clearly, you didn't read the book.
@@bipolarminddroppings "she" is a fictional character with no agency. The writer used her as a metaphorical trophy for the protagonist. Clearly, you don't understand literature.
@@AshlarKismet if characters in fiction do not have agency, all crimes commited there would be not punishable, because the author put them in that situatuation, they don't have agency outside the fiction, inside of it, they totally do, at least in the in-universe logic, if you can justify genocide with "the character has no agency, therefore is the author's fault" then you are not making a very good point Abd i'm not gonna defend the movie/book, but attacking something bad with something worse not useful for anyone
@@skylex157 You're totally missing the point of the argument. The author used the relationship with the girl as a trophy for the MC. That was the whole point. Yes, there was a "justification" within the context of the story, but from a literary analysis perspective, that is irrelevant.
Had the same experience as you the theatre was empty. It was just me, my dad and step brother. While there was one guy in the theatre. We didn’t have popcorn because the machine broke and there were firefighters there.
I’d just be a magic horse god be dammed I’ll stick a pocket laser pistol in the spare hole, there’s no way they can simulate that feeling on a male right? Right?
I can't hate an American-made live action movie where the Japanese boy got to summon the original Gundam with the iconic "私はガンダムです" line and fight Mecha Godzilla.
_"私はガンダムです"_ No offense, I get your enthusiasm, but that you decided to use the japanese Kanji signs, instead of giving us a translation or at least the pronounced version _"Watashi wa Gandamudesu",_ makes you sound almost as an elitist nerd as the main character of this book/movie.
@@Furzkampfbomber it might be a common trend beetwen Nerd Gatekeepers But since he didnt actually gatekeep anyone was just fanboying for his favourite show, then i dont think its necesary to call him out
I hate Ready Player One. So much that I started to really enjoy hating on it, and I have to give it credit, I've never had so much fun ranting about something I probably should not even care about.
I'm the exact same way with Eragon. The series is nonsensical, barely anything actually happens, Christopher wrote some really fucked up shit like Eragon being a creep to Arya, and Eragon being able to feel Sapphira getting fucked (hell I'm a Scalie and that shit weirds me out). Oh yeah, and Eldest literally starts with Eragon finding some dude's tooth in the middle of a battle ground and starts pondering war and what it means to kill people. That's some fucked up shit, and then you got Roran being literally Moses and leading his flock across the mountains during the winter *and somehow no one froze to death.* And don't get me started that Christopher doesn't even understand how far distances are. In Eragon the duo road a pair of horses like 400 miles in 3 days and somehow the horses didn't die. They're not fed, given barely any water and they're in a fucking desert. You got Roran paddling a boat *through* a sixteen mile long whirlpool. Ah, and how could I forget the druggie hippy Elves, who legit cast a spell to make the entire forest fuck. And then they get high and fuck. And then they do it again a few weeks later. And then at the end of Eldest they magic away every single issue Eragon has, he didn't overcome anything he was just given a literal anime power up. He's suddenly able to beat his betters in sword fighting, able to cast spells he kept failing to casts, and legit sees his fellow humans as lower beings. God he's just...god he's the fucking definition of a god damn mary sue. And here people think the Inheritance Cycle are good books. It just baffles me.
I remember being excited and feeling nostalgic when the iron giant avatar showed up, and then felt a whole bunch of confused sadness as soon as he threw a punch. Why would you do that to the such a good boy/superman?
@Jesse Quarnstrom clearly, you've never seen the iron giant. the point of the message is "i am not a weapon". him throwing a punch is counter to his entire character. imagine if a movie came out where superman was wantonly destroying a city, acting like a self righteous asshole and murdering people in cold blood, how would people react to that? oh wait, you don't have to guess, that's man of steel, and it got critically raked over the coals.
@masteryoda120988 That isn't what GamerGate was. GamerGate started as a huge backlash to people trading favors for positive reviews of their games, and slowly also became a huge backlash to people like Anita Sarkessian. People who came into the community as an outsider and told us how WE were wrong, and evil. And ALL of media fell in line against the movement trying REALLY hard to paint us all as neckbeard, gatekeeping, sexists. Completely ignoring that well over half of the leaders of the movement were women. It fizzled out solely because everywhere you turned people were lying about it.
@@timdragon22 I see, so you're still sticking by that bullshit story, despite everything about it being proven wrong, or recanted. Nothing makes this more clear, than the fact that you think someone pointing out sexist tropes in games, somehow makes you "wrong" or "evil". The first step in not being labeled sexist redpill gulping neckbeards, is not fucking acting like one.
@@digitalutopia1 dude, if you take something someone enjoys and is passionate about, and make strong moral judgements about it like a pearl clutching westboro baptist, people are going to internalize that judgement.
See the book was bad, because what’s his name was kinda cringy. But the thing is all the other characters were pretty okay. Like the idea of him getting kicked out of the group his friend was in was great, and his resourcefulness for getting around is interesting. Also I liked how there were legitimate stakes.
This is why I never went to see the film. The whole film is just stealing and shitting on other peoples franchises. Its a giant easter egg. Utter bollocks. After watching Karl's video my fears were confirmed. Won't touch it with a pole.
It's the closest we're going to get to a good live action adaptation of Gundam... Oh God, please don't let them try to do a shitty live action adaptation!
@@russetwolf13 as bad as anime adaptations tend to be, MSG on the other hand might be perfect for it, for starters most of the main cast is already of western descent so whitewashing wouldn't be a HUGE issue, but I think that whoever they chose for Char, they'd have to make Ikeda dub over his voice since nobody can compare to him.
No mention about how screwed that world is and how it encourages people to find an escape from it like a drug infecting the youth of the next generation.
It was one of those films where I watched it, sorta just went “yeah that was alright” at the end then forgot about it for a few months until this video was recommended to me just now
the video was released 1 minute ago and theres already 1 dislike, meaning that they havent watched the video and yet they still thinking their opinion is so right about this garbage movie that they didnt even listen to your reasoning.
Ethan Arial Naruto saved the world but still had to take all of the necessary educational exams. He might have been blessed with a lot more power than the average ninja but the show did make a point that Naruto still had to progress through the ranks just like every other ninja, Even tho the village would have probably just made him Hokage for his actions alone, Naruto did want to get the job the legitimate way. ... ... Ofc no-one ever mentions the fact the ninja villages in the Naruto universe are effectively raising child soldiers and get PAID to do it with people's taxes. XD
darkmega97 what’s wrong with? Not every form of media needs to be high level art. It’s a fun book and a fun story. This guy didn’t even read the book properly cause half those events are film only
Just to make that iron giant part a little bit worse, brad bird’s family is a victim of gun violence, that being his sister, which inspired the later pitch “what if a gun had a soul, and diddnt want to be a gun” as Karl said in the video
Thanks for this video. I keep complaining about Ready Player One because it's actually a bad film and no one believes me because CHILHOOD REFERENCE. Ugh.
I also take refuge in here, there's a lot of us. I love my friends and family but their goddamn taste in movies makes me want to catch a ride to a desert island with stable wifi.
A lot of the references I saw seemed to be geared towards the states and the films and games popular there (that, and the things they already had the rights to), so the only reference that held anything with me was the Monty Python Holy Hand Grenade. I liked the movie enough despite the nonsensical parts detailed above, but I think the only thing giving me rose tinted spectacles is just that I want The Oasis to be a real thing.
The Otherland series by Tad Williams was released years before Ready Player One, and it was actually really, really good. And the books were massive. Would've made a great franchise.
Must be a wookie thing, my mate lent me his copy of the book and within a few pages I thought that the main character was a neckbeard and by the end I thought it was a book for neckbeard teenagers from the early 90s excluding Firefly.
Holy crap, I'm a tryhard. I wrote a fanfiction where the main character is a fugitive who escapes with his son to Mexico and was a former OASIS employee, veteran of the Second Korean War, and leader of an OASIS clan that attacks IOI in-game and IRL. Think drone bombing and cyberattacks. I haven't finished it but it's suppose to end with Wade's actions dooming the US while Mexico becomes a dominant economic superpower.
The evil corporation in the book is cartoonishly evil. They don't have any obvious, relatable motivation, which means that the main conflict is the weakest, least interesting part of the book. It's basically a brawl between a main character who doesn't understand other people and the main villain of a children's cartoon.
the iron giant thing annoyed me because there’s nothing wrong with having the iron giant show up but having the good guys use the iron giant and not the bag guy use him is a gross misunderstanding of the iron giant himself and a wasted opportunity for the narrative to illustrate the exact point that you make about the iron giant being used as a weapon.
So, its a movie made by people who completely miss the point of the works they claim to be fans of and possessing no self-awareness or knowledge of the internet or gaming's history/culture.
Robert Marlowe what I personally hate was his attitude against another people.. “ idiots, losers, assholes and so on “ for those who didn’t agree or knew what he knew.. okay dude.. I am a Asperger and I know stuff.. but I know one thing better.. NOT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT I KNOWS AND MAYBE THATS A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.. AND SOMETIMES REMEMBER LOOKING INSIDE YOURSELF TO SEE IF YOU ARE THE ASSHOLE , LOSER , IDIOT AND SO ON .. and actually this is why so few people can make a teenage boy or girl right.. or young people.. they all think they are assholes and either change or not.. why can’t someone make a story about some young people who knew they sucks and want to change but don’t know how or what is alright to change or not.. because life is very difficult.. I don’t want to be a Asshole but I don’t want to people be jerks to me I don’t want to care what people think about me but I don’t want to be arrogant egotistical jerk I want to have fun but not be rude.. and so on.. as one with Asperger that’s is more difficult and harder then what the meaning of life is.. which is easy.. it’s a coincidence.. not else.. if we was not here something else would.. that’s it folks.. !
My little brother and I argue over this book and movie so many time. I couldn't even get myself to finish the book whereas he read it six times and the movie bored me where he loves every small thing shoved into it.
I never understood why it takes place in the 2040s yet all the pop culture is ancient. Like culture just stopped existing for decades and nobody cared about living anymore.
Haliday. All people who tried to win egg hunt knew Haliday was obsessed with his child/teen years popculture, thus tried to know everything about it, in hopes it would help them to win.
@@chillysunny2324 Yeah but did 100% of the Earth only care about the game and nothing else? It really takes away from the movie when they are living in a crapsack world with nothing forcing it to remain one. Take Sword Art Online for example. They had their fun fantasy world but the rest of the world didn't just up and die off because they couldn't get trapped in the world too. They continued to live their lives while supporting those trapped.
@@davidmcgill1000 Well, we only know Wade's point of view. It is possible, that outside the Oasis people had different pop culture. Then again, the world outside the Oasis is kinda crap, so maybe everyone is just too busy trying to stay alive and not caring too much about art, music, movies etc.
David McGill it’s literally a 500 billion dollar competition. The world was very obsessed with it and remember we are in the POV of Wade a Gunter whose hobby is literally trying to find the keys which involves cramming this nostalgic crap to have a chance at winning.
I dont think the story is about any kind of self improvement, if you ask me its about players vs the game company. Today we are bombarded with micro transactions and poorly made games that the developers dont care enough about to change so players actually enjoy them. That's the battle they are fighting in the movie.
I remember when I read the book the was a praise for the book calling the book a "modern willy wonka". I found it ironic given that willy sings an entire song about a world of his own creation whereas virtually nothing in this story is someone's own creation.
Wow. I didn't think of it like that. About how the creators of this movie is actually a corporation regurgitating what they think is "cool". Now I know where my sense of discomfort from the movie comes from.
I loved the book because I was in a bad point of my life and reading it kept me distracted. But all those things aside, RPO was Cline's first book ever, it's pretty good for his first novel.
I know I'm late on this but I have to add something I hated from the movie, when IOI kills his aunt he almost completely forgets about and I felt that Wade was to busy trying to get some instead.
Watching Ready Player One as a kid, it was genuinely kinda disturbing seeing the Iron Giant being used as a weapon. I watched that movie a lot, and really connected with it. So watching this big, lovable robot with the spirit of a child going full rip and tear didn't sit right. Even as a kid, I thought, "Isn't this the opposite of the point?"
Okay, I love this rant. Favorite one I've seen from you. I had exact same cringey feeling when reading the Ready Player One book before dropping it halfway. Couldn't work out why it was so popular, and I'm glad it annoys other people too.
I completely agree with just about everything said in this video, and many others, yet I still love the book. I thought it was a very enjoyable read, and that while the author is not very skilled and incredibly immature, he did a good job of creating an interesting universe. I was probably more enthralled by the challenges in the book than I should have been, but I enjoyed them. I was pretty excited for the movie to come out and when finally did I recognized that the movie was really bad, but it was still cool enough to allow me to enjoy it regardless. Maybe I'm just not picky enough.
I watched the movie in the cinema, and was completely underwhelmed. Most of it contained references a good chunk of its audience are too young to understand. And had a dumb plot overall, wouldn’t some die-hard retro fan have completed the damn game years before the forgettable MC did? Why did the game have to owned through a set of challenges, why hasn’t the game been thoroughly hacked and fucked?
I like the part where the big bad offers the hero the Millennium Falcon as a bride and all I could think was is that it? How about a fleet of Stardestroyers or a Legion of Astartes.
Also, can we talk about how IOI is the shittiest company ever? Not from a moral or ethical standpoint, but from a pure business stance. Their entire business plan hinges on winning the Oasis. That's like if a company today spent all its time, money, and man power buying lottery tickets. No one thinks to actually develop a competing VR platform. Yeah, I know, there'd be no book and movie then, but that's kinda the point.
Honestly, I've never understood "if X were true, there wouldn't be a book/movie, therfore X is not a valid complaint about the book/movie" as an argument. You're completely right, it really doesn't make sense in this context for a company to fight for this VR world as if it were some naturally occurring limited resource instead of actually developing their own products.
My brother read the book a few years ago and really identifies with the main character and is slowly turning into him and that’s probably why I don’t talk to him
LOL, definitely trust the vaporwave voice modulator guy. Oh, and can we talk about an 11 year old slicing people to death in a highly realistic adult VR experience? What rating is this movie again? Where are the parents? Ha
I would like to point out that according to the book Wade the only person that I've ever brought their out car back, yet they show Minecraft world and in Minecraft there is an item that will bring you back if you are holding it when you die
Your take on this series is the only one that matters. I don't say anything cos my friend loves it for the nerd nostalgia of his youth, but really it's terrible and you put it into perspective perfectly.
I lost interest in this movie before it even released. All my friends were excited by the trailer, all I saw was a huge cash grab filled with pop culture references. Looks like I was right.
I liked the movie for what it is. A fun crazy mash up of 80's and 90's pop culture. When I watched the scene where he figures out to drive backwards I said to my niece "wait, they didn't already do that? They've been at this for how long? and didn't think to drive backwards? That's literally the first thing anyone does just for the hell of it!". It was at that moment that realized no thought was put into this movie at all. Watching ready player one for the "intelligence" of it is like watching Expendables for the story.
You clearly didn't read the book lol
How tf did you get pinned under a year old video just after 7 hours
@@richardjanda4837 science
how tf did you get pinned?
Nah. The book and movie are fun for there concepts and references, but I can’t defend its story c
Huh
The oasis. A world where the only limit is your imagination. As long as your imagination is based on someone else's imagination.
@@emeraldbonsai True. Mine is based off of yours. I'm a little disappointed, I gotta say. Not very impressive.
or, more accurately, a world where the limits are your imagination, as long as that imagination is limited to 80's and 90's pop culture references.
@@benrodir2 that's because the movie used the premise as an excuse to get ad money and make a billon dollars. the book apparently states that pop culture just stopped developing after the 80's as a way to justify having what would be 60~ year old references coating the oasis by the time of the story.
"when everyone is special then no one is..."
@@Yal_Rathol
Is that why he mentions Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and Firefly? The 80's stuff is just where the clues to the contest are. No one bitches about the 80's stuff in BTTF 2's future scenes which happens right around the time the book was released. That's just how nostalgia works. In the 80/90's they had a continuation of Leave it to Beaver on TV cause 50's nostalgia was big at the time.
The author: "Yeah! The movie sucked!"
"The book and the film"
The author: "Oh."
I'll extend it to the author's follow-up sucked, too. Even worse since it was just Ready Player One, Take 2: Here's a List of Even More Things I Remember From the 80s.
@@NekoMouser I'm even more disappointed that it wasn't called Ready Player 2, that seems so obvious
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What "oh"? Tell me, I need to know.
NekoMouser they called the new one take 2!? That’s like admitting the first one sucked!
wades the sort of dude who irl would refer to women as THE FEMALES
Sieves F The Foids
"WOMEN, OR HOLES, AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM."
Incels
@@ForgesOfLuna the *HOLES* xd LMAO
Men but with tits
“Evil corporation, basically EA Games”
This actually touches on something that I’ve been really hating about movies and media lately. The concept of referencing something that I already like, and by association, surely I must like this other thing, this other thing must easily be also good, because I like the source material or something that is referenced.
That's when i realized Steven universe blows.
when that happens I'll usually only like the bit of the reference, and nothing else :D
If you can't get a woman to like you, get her to like herself around you. It's the exact same thing, only in a different medium.
@@ColtonWalker073 that's so creeper and manipulative. If someone doesn't like you accept it and move on.
@@ColtonWalker073 thats creepy af lmao
What pisses me of the most is how they incorrectly threw the holy hand granade of Antioch, they just wanted to put as many pop culture references as possible.
I absolutely fucking hated that.
How could they EVER be lazy enough to fuck that up!
they did FUCKING WHAT! but what about the hilariously over redundant instructions!
@@obsidiandragon1385 They ignored them by just throwing it like it was any normal grenade but with a bigger explosion
@@garrettbates9124 I am offended and appalled
I thought I was going to hate this video, and be mad at the points made. Then he actually made some really great points, and I now agree with him... Great video!
Facts and logic my friend...facts and logic
Same here.
Same and now I’ll never be able to watch this movie the same again. Especially with the Iron Giant connection.
Same
Same. Logic prevails in the end
spy kids 3D > ready player one
Yugi Muto speaking the truth right there
That's actually a true statement
Correct
Sharkboy and lavagirl > spy kids 3D
True Dat
Not to mention how the two days the Oasis is closed... Like how is that actually supposed to be beneficial?
If you're get drunk/wasted only on weeknights, you're still an alcoholic.
Yes, but not as dangerously alcoholic. It is not a complete fix, it was just an easy way for the writing to say “yay we made the world a better place”.
Also isn’t the Oasis bascially the internet in that world and all sorts of business is done on the Oasis? So now for two days a week pretty much nothing can get done. It’d be like two days a week irl with no internet, phones, schools, businesses, etc.
@@LordPyro25 so you mean it would be the de facto weekend? wow so bad
@@LordPyro25 no, it's a game on the internet. Even if people choose to do business over it it's not the only way to do so.
lol yeah, that was a weird end, but like when you main conflict is that you don't want adds in your online world, yet got no explanation on where the money is coming from...it is a bit hard to put a sensible conclusion on there.
And I kinda think a lot of people would be more pissed by the closing days that the adds there would have been. yeah no theres alot of dum stuff in there.
I always assumed people watched this purely for the pop culture references. I didn't realize people actually thought it was a good story.
I only watched for the references and Simon Pegg ... That's all, it looks like a cool concept but definitely not the best storytelling or script ... Could have been changed to make it better but I'm not imaginative enough to do that.
I thought It was an okay movie but I were it did fall short It made up for in pop culture references in my opinion
Oh no the movie was awful storywise but It was fun to look for pop culture reference
They had a Firefly/Serenity style-spaceship; that was the main thing for me.
The movie doesn’t do the book justice trust me
"if a gun had a soul and it didn't want to be a gun" Tell that to the machine spirits of all the bolters mate
But they like killing Heretics and Xenos...
Heresy!!
For the imperium of man!!!
May the Emperor protect you brothers
I always wondered why I never could get into ready player one was. Then I listened to this and realized it because ready player one is just nice guy fan fiction.
On one hand there's *MECHAGODZILLA* but on another there's *R/NICEGUYS*
It's not just mechagodzilla, it's kiryu (iirc it's kiryu) vs ultraman
@@anidiot192 ain't Kiryu just mechagodzilla number 3, even though he's technically the first one in the millennium canon
@@binglover694 yeah, it's called "specifying"
ready player one: an r/niceguys and r/nicegirls power fantasy
yeah prop, except i think most people just wanted to see some cool fights in a virtual world + a bunch of VR concept marketing.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@MouseGoat I meant the book
@@mtnentertainment3454 but again, most people get told "hers a cool book about a virtual online world" I dont think anyone is selling it as a "niceguys fantasy"
and not sure why you including r/nicegirls, im not really convinced many girls would be found of the arturs world view, and especially not the nicegirls XD
@@MouseGoat I'm not saying that's what it's being sold as, I'm saying that's what it IS, as in, that's what the writing portrays unintentionally. and I'm including the r/nicegirls because they have the same narcissism complex as nice guys
It's not like those other books. Where other books have stories, characters, and lessons that drone on and on, Ready Player One has as many pop culture references as Cheeto dust particles in a neckbeard's top grease layer. It's so progressive in its message in telling EA to go fuck itself while simultaneously selling their souls to EA. And our hero woos his dream girl with Monty Python quotes and entitlement, because life works that way. What a work of art! Almost as good as clogged toilet!
As someone who had to read the book for class, it wasn’t that good. Also, the MSN conversation you mentioned, was like 8 pages long, not just 1. It was hell
I read it, and I enjoyed it because I could turn off my brain as I did so.
@@owenstephens3389 But why read things that you must turn off your brain to enjoy? There is so much legitimately good literature out there.
@@ColinFox I understand the want for higher quality reads, but I was being forced to read this goddamned book, so I figured eh, fuck it, I'll roll with this and enjoy what I can.
You miserable basterd. I pray for your sanity.
@@ColinFox You can enjoy both
Addendum: the writer of the book even writes the female love interest as a reward more than anything else. He only gets to see her at the end of the final battle after he's 'won' and this is a deliberate choice of the writer. Rather than seeing her before and using that meeting to motivate the main character or something to that effect, nah, she's just a trophy basically.
@@claybrown1258 that is very primitive... he/she never said anything about men sacrificing their well being in order to protect women. its treating other person as trophies that he/she has problem with. if treating women as trophies are your thing.... then i really don't think you have the right to tell someone to remove themselves from the gene pool.
She chose to not have a relationship with him until the contest was done because she was getting distracted. She isn't a prize for him, she wants to win the prize herself and her relationship with him interferes with that. Clearly, you didn't read the book.
@@bipolarminddroppings "she" is a fictional character with no agency. The writer used her as a metaphorical trophy for the protagonist. Clearly, you don't understand literature.
@@AshlarKismet if characters in fiction do not have agency, all crimes commited there would be not punishable, because the author put them in that situatuation, they don't have agency outside the fiction, inside of it, they totally do, at least in the in-universe logic, if you can justify genocide with "the character has no agency, therefore is the author's fault" then you are not making a very good point
Abd i'm not gonna defend the movie/book, but attacking something bad with something worse not useful for anyone
@@skylex157 You're totally missing the point of the argument. The author used the relationship with the girl as a trophy for the MC. That was the whole point. Yes, there was a "justification" within the context of the story, but from a literary analysis perspective, that is irrelevant.
So basically the plot of most of chinese webtoon and web novel where the protagonist skill is plot skill and the armor is plot armor
I'm not like other girls, I have...
Snakearms.
ASDF Movie. Marry me please
This made my day
Thats so hot
:)
*_*Wiggles arms*_*
You have ruined RPO for me but i'm not mad. Thank you for opening my eyes to this.
Read Ready Player Two
anyone else still expecting the traditional second SHLAP sound on the title card?
Personally, I liked the movie because when I went to see it with my friend the theater was empty so we got to sit there and take the piss out of it
Had the same experience as you the theatre was empty. It was just me, my dad and step brother. While there was one guy in the theatre. We didn’t have popcorn because the machine broke and there were firefighters there.
To be fair if I can be a warhammer 40k Space Marine in the oasis I'll be an Emperor dammed space marine.
Mechagodzilla vs a Titan would be awesome
Mechagodzilla’s gonna get his shit wrecked
Chugga
I’d just be a magic horse god be dammed I’ll stick a pocket laser pistol in the spare hole, there’s no way they can simulate that feeling on a male right? Right?
Death to the false emperor!
This movie is the literal embodiment of the phrase "gamers, rise up"
That's the terrible other Cline book Armada.
It's written by someone who takes the "we live in a society" meme seriously
I can't hate an American-made live action movie where the Japanese boy got to summon the original Gundam with the iconic "私はガンダムです" line and fight Mecha Godzilla.
Literally the reason I watched the movie. I was however, disappointed with the limited screentime the Gundam got.
TheHobgoblyn they did removes Ultraman Hayata though.. really annoyed
_"私はガンダムです"_ No offense, I get your enthusiasm, but that you decided to use the japanese Kanji signs, instead of giving us a translation or at least the pronounced version _"Watashi wa Gandamudesu",_ makes you sound almost as an elitist nerd as the main character of this book/movie.
@@Furzkampfbomber it might be a common trend beetwen Nerd Gatekeepers
But since he didnt actually gatekeep anyone was just fanboying for his favourite show, then i dont think its necesary to call him out
@@Furzkampfbomber which now you sound like a white night. GG everyone
I hate Ready Player One. So much that I started to really enjoy hating on it, and I have to give it credit, I've never had so much fun ranting about something I probably should not even care about.
I'm the exact same way with Eragon. The series is nonsensical, barely anything actually happens, Christopher wrote some really fucked up shit like Eragon being a creep to Arya, and Eragon being able to feel Sapphira getting fucked (hell I'm a Scalie and that shit weirds me out). Oh yeah, and Eldest literally starts with Eragon finding some dude's tooth in the middle of a battle ground and starts pondering war and what it means to kill people.
That's some fucked up shit, and then you got Roran being literally Moses and leading his flock across the mountains during the winter *and somehow no one froze to death.*
And don't get me started that Christopher doesn't even understand how far distances are. In Eragon the duo road a pair of horses like 400 miles in 3 days and somehow the horses didn't die. They're not fed, given barely any water and they're in a fucking desert. You got Roran paddling a boat *through* a sixteen mile long whirlpool.
Ah, and how could I forget the druggie hippy Elves, who legit cast a spell to make the entire forest fuck. And then they get high and fuck. And then they do it again a few weeks later. And then at the end of Eldest they magic away every single issue Eragon has, he didn't overcome anything he was just given a literal anime power up. He's suddenly able to beat his betters in sword fighting, able to cast spells he kept failing to casts, and legit sees his fellow humans as lower beings. God he's just...god he's the fucking definition of a god damn mary sue. And here people think the Inheritance Cycle are good books. It just baffles me.
Shut it kid
I remember being excited and feeling nostalgic when the iron giant avatar showed up, and then felt a whole bunch of confused sadness as soon as he threw a punch. Why would you do that to the such a good boy/superman?
BECAUSE GIAMT RROBOT COOL PUNCH THING YEEEEAAAAAH
@Jesse Quarnstrom yeah but not iron giant's idea of Superman. He just wanted to help people.
@Jesse Quarnstrom clearly, you've never seen the iron giant. the point of the message is "i am not a weapon". him throwing a punch is counter to his entire character.
imagine if a movie came out where superman was wantonly destroying a city, acting like a self righteous asshole and murdering people in cold blood, how would people react to that? oh wait, you don't have to guess, that's man of steel, and it got critically raked over the coals.
@@Yal_Rathol exactly. They took all the wholesomeness of the iron giant and wiped their butt with it.
Its amazing both of you missed his obvious sarcasm
When it comes to the main character's interactions with women. He sounds like he's a Neck Beard
He's a nerd who's only ever had 1 friend in his life and lived inside a video game since he was 4. What do you expect?
... yeah, that's the fucking point
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I LOVE FACT FIEND
T-shirt design????
It's the death pony from Robot Chicken
This story sounds like a neckbeard's self-insert power fantasy...
@masteryoda120988 That isn't what GamerGate was. GamerGate started as a huge backlash to people trading favors for positive reviews of their games, and slowly also became a huge backlash to people like Anita Sarkessian. People who came into the community as an outsider and told us how WE were wrong, and evil.
And ALL of media fell in line against the movement trying REALLY hard to paint us all as neckbeard, gatekeeping, sexists. Completely ignoring that well over half of the leaders of the movement were women.
It fizzled out solely because everywhere you turned people were lying about it.
@masteryoda120988 I was there and a coordinator. Half of the people I worked alongside were women who was furious about this situation
That's because it is.
@@timdragon22 I see, so you're still sticking by that bullshit story, despite everything about it being proven wrong, or recanted.
Nothing makes this more clear, than the fact that you think someone pointing out sexist tropes in games, somehow makes you "wrong" or "evil".
The first step in not being labeled sexist redpill gulping neckbeards, is not fucking acting like one.
@@digitalutopia1 dude, if you take something someone enjoys and is passionate about, and make strong moral judgements about it like a pearl clutching westboro baptist, people are going to internalize that judgement.
God, I watched this expecting to be angry at the end but I didn’t realize how bad the book was till you mentioned specific scenes.
See the book was bad, because what’s his name was kinda cringy. But the thing is all the other characters were pretty okay. Like the idea of him getting kicked out of the group his friend was in was great, and his resourcefulness for getting around is interesting. Also I liked how there were legitimate stakes.
And he gets better in the second book
This is why I never went to see the film. The whole film is just stealing and shitting on other peoples franchises. Its a giant easter egg. Utter bollocks. After watching Karl's video my fears were confirmed. Won't touch it with a pole.
You know, when I watched this movie, I got a major Avatar feel from it: Insane visuals/soundtrack and lacking story/characters
You could even say: questionable story/characters in both cases.
I think Ready Player Ons is the only case where the movie is better than the book because there is less plot
*Im not like other______ * the movie
Nice Guys: The Tipping of the Fedora
Right
So it's just the self-insert fantasy by some dude from r/niceguys? Count me out
My only real complaint about the film is that there wasn't enough Gundam (there were others but this one overshadows them).
It's the closest we're going to get to a good live action adaptation of Gundam... Oh God, please don't let them try to do a shitty live action adaptation!
It would have been perfect if they used the Wing Gundam instead of the granddaddy Gundam. We are more used to Wing than the original anime in the west
@@Darrkerkg Wing isn't that popular in retrospect. If they wanted real nerd points then they should have put Alphonse from Patlabor in there.
My complaint is it didn't have a beam rifle and thus didn't do the Last Shooting pose. Instead they gave it the ZZ pose for some reason.
@@russetwolf13 as bad as anime adaptations tend to be, MSG on the other hand might be perfect for it, for starters most of the main cast is already of western descent so whitewashing wouldn't be a HUGE issue, but I think that whoever they chose for Char, they'd have to make Ikeda dub over his voice since nobody can compare to him.
No mention about how screwed that world is and how it encourages people to find an escape from it like a drug infecting the youth of the next generation.
I wrote a fanfic where Mexican cartels go from smuggling coke and heroin to bootleg OASIS haptics.
To be fair it basically lays out that the world is irredeemably screwed up due to climate change that's why they need the escape
That's one drug I'd definitely get addicted to
I mean that was exactly what the author was going for, it’s a sci-fi dystopian novel so that’s what to expect
The irony that a big company, that probably falls under the definition of the villain in this material, made the movie.
I love that even in the distant future, Minecraft still can't render an entire build until you're directly under it
Karl knocking it out the park with these correct opinions again
"Those people are wrong, and I'm about to tell you why."
This is the greatest sentence ever.
I don't even remember how I found your channel that was 3months ago and I'm not leaving
It was one of those films where I watched it, sorta just went “yeah that was alright” at the end then forgot about it for a few months until this video was recommended to me just now
the video was released 1 minute ago and theres already 1 dislike, meaning that they havent watched the video and yet they still thinking their opinion is so right about this garbage movie that they didnt even listen to your reasoning.
Might have been me, I missed the like button, lol
there are also plugins that will automatically dislike any video you watch. don't know what the draw is, but they exist
*Laughs in 1 year later*
I'm glad that I had nothing to do with this movie or the book. Thank you for saving my time.
Talk about how much of a hypocrite the show Naruto is
HARD WORK & DEDICATION PAYS OFF MY ASS.
Edit: still my favorite anime of all time but still
Super_ _Nerd730 hard work, dedication, and a literal god inside your body pays off.
Ethan Arial Naruto saved the world but still had to take all of the necessary educational exams. He might have been blessed with a lot more power than the average ninja but the show did make a point that Naruto still had to progress through the ranks just like every other ninja,
Even tho the village would have probably just made him Hokage for his actions alone, Naruto did want to get the job the legitimate way.
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Ofc no-one ever mentions the fact the ninja villages in the Naruto universe are effectively raising child soldiers and get PAID to do it with people's taxes. XD
Yeah, that's why i started hating shippuden.
You killed me at "Stand up and claps"... Is the book just a giant r/Thathappened?
The movie, and from what heard also the book, are boiled down to "I clapped when I saw the thing I knew"
darkmega97 what’s wrong with? Not every form of media needs to be high level art. It’s a fun book and a fun story. This guy didn’t even read the book properly cause half those events are film only
Joe Nelly what’s that mean
Joe Nelly what that I have my notifications on
Joe Nelly care to share what you proved
How sad of a life would you have to have to immediately reply to a TH-cam comment which concerned a comment you made 9 months prior.
Plus a pop culture obsessed world with only WB??? As soon as you notice there's no Disney, Marvel, or Simpsons, you can't unsee it.
Hahaha this is makes the book hilarious realizing it from this point of view
Just to make that iron giant part a little bit worse, brad bird’s family is a victim of gun violence, that being his sister, which inspired the later pitch “what if a gun had a soul, and diddnt want to be a gun” as Karl said in the video
Thumbs up for the episode name alone.
I can't wait to see how Karl shreds this book because it's terrible.
I still love this movie. But damnit Karl. You make a lot of good points. Hence why I watch all of these videos. 😂
Thanks for this video. I keep complaining about Ready Player One because it's actually a bad film and no one believes me because CHILHOOD REFERENCE. Ugh.
I also take refuge in here, there's a lot of us. I love my friends and family but their goddamn taste in movies makes me want to catch a ride to a desert island with stable wifi.
@@krrr.4902 Or maybe YOUR tastes in movie suck ass. Sometimes it's not them, it's you.
A lot of the references I saw seemed to be geared towards the states and the films and games popular there (that, and the things they already had the rights to), so the only reference that held anything with me was the Monty Python Holy Hand Grenade. I liked the movie enough despite the nonsensical parts detailed above, but I think the only thing giving me rose tinted spectacles is just that I want The Oasis to be a real thing.
Apparently, the working title of the book was "Ready, Gary Stu", but that was considered too self-aware.
Worst Bestsellers Podcast did an episode on this one. It was good. Recommended
The Otherland series by Tad Williams was released years before Ready Player One, and it was actually really, really good. And the books were massive. Would've made a great franchise.
Now I'm curious
Thank You, all my friends were amazed by it
Well it looks good so that might be the reason
Must be a wookie thing, my mate lent me his copy of the book and within a few pages I thought that the main character was a neckbeard and by the end I thought it was a book for neckbeard teenagers from the early 90s excluding Firefly.
@@Wookie_oo7 that's exactly what it is. it's nostalgia bait for people who live with rose tinted glasses glued to their nose.
Holy crap, I'm a tryhard. I wrote a fanfiction where the main character is a fugitive who escapes with his son to Mexico and was a former OASIS employee, veteran of the Second Korean War, and leader of an OASIS clan that attacks IOI in-game and IRL. Think drone bombing and cyberattacks. I haven't finished it but it's suppose to end with Wade's actions dooming the US while Mexico becomes a dominant economic superpower.
"You can be anything you want" That already is made by more original talented people.
The evil corporation in the book is cartoonishly evil. They don't have any obvious, relatable motivation, which means that the main conflict is the weakest, least interesting part of the book. It's basically a brawl between a main character who doesn't understand other people and the main villain of a children's cartoon.
I love the concept of the Oasis but the story was executed rather poorly
movie wise, yes
Watch sword art online it has a similar type of idea but so much better
Twin Trash I watched SAO a long time ago. The first season was great but I just didn’t care about anything after the second season
Advercide yeah I watched the first two seasons then after that I got bored
I agree
Just when I thought it couldn't get worse than "Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets"...
Hollywood: "Hold my ray-gun.."
What about the fact the main bad guys Avatar was just a more buff Vince McMahon?
I saw it as evil corporate Superman.
the iron giant thing annoyed me because there’s nothing wrong with having the iron giant show up but having the good guys use the iron giant and not the bag guy use him is a gross misunderstanding of the iron giant himself and a wasted opportunity for the narrative to illustrate the exact point that you make about the iron giant being used as a weapon.
Easily one of the worst Spielberg films.
@@h4724-q6j Yes, but it is so by a wide margin.
So, its a movie made by people who completely miss the point of the works they claim to be fans of and possessing no self-awareness or knowledge of the internet or gaming's history/culture.
I loved the book, but yeah, all criticism is earned.
Robert Marlowe what I personally hate was his attitude against another people.. “ idiots, losers, assholes and so on “ for those who didn’t agree or knew what he knew.. okay dude.. I am a Asperger and I know stuff.. but I know one thing better.. NOT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT I KNOWS AND MAYBE THATS A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.. AND SOMETIMES REMEMBER LOOKING INSIDE YOURSELF TO SEE IF YOU ARE THE ASSHOLE , LOSER , IDIOT AND SO ON .. and actually this is why so few people can make a teenage boy or girl right.. or young people.. they all think they are assholes and either change or not.. why can’t someone make a story about some young people who knew they sucks and want to change but don’t know how or what is alright to change or not.. because life is very difficult.. I don’t want to be a Asshole but I don’t want to people be jerks to me I don’t want to care what people think about me but I don’t want to be arrogant egotistical jerk I want to have fun but not be rude.. and so on.. as one with Asperger that’s is more difficult and harder then what the meaning of life is.. which is easy.. it’s a coincidence.. not else.. if we was not here something else would.. that’s it folks.. !
Same
My little brother and I argue over this book and movie so many time. I couldn't even get myself to finish the book whereas he read it six times and the movie bored me where he loves every small thing shoved into it.
I never understood why it takes place in the 2040s yet all the pop culture is ancient. Like culture just stopped existing for decades and nobody cared about living anymore.
Haliday. All people who tried to win egg hunt knew Haliday was obsessed with his child/teen years popculture, thus tried to know everything about it, in hopes it would help them to win.
@@chillysunny2324 Yeah but did 100% of the Earth only care about the game and nothing else? It really takes away from the movie when they are living in a crapsack world with nothing forcing it to remain one. Take Sword Art Online for example. They had their fun fantasy world but the rest of the world didn't just up and die off because they couldn't get trapped in the world too. They continued to live their lives while supporting those trapped.
@@davidmcgill1000 Well, we only know Wade's point of view. It is possible, that outside the Oasis people had different pop culture. Then again, the world outside the Oasis is kinda crap, so maybe everyone is just too busy trying to stay alive and not caring too much about art, music, movies etc.
David McGill it’s literally a 500 billion dollar competition. The world was very obsessed with it and remember we are in the POV of Wade a Gunter whose hobby is literally trying to find the keys which involves cramming this nostalgic crap to have a chance at winning.
If the iron giant was replaced with Liberty Prime, I wouldn't have an issue with that
I dont think the story is about any kind of self improvement, if you ask me its about players vs the game company. Today we are bombarded with micro transactions and poorly made games that the developers dont care enough about to change so players actually enjoy them. That's the battle they are fighting in the movie.
I remember when I read the book the was a praise for the book calling the book a "modern willy wonka". I found it ironic given that willy sings an entire song about a world of his own creation whereas virtually nothing in this story is someone's own creation.
Wow. I didn't think of it like that. About how the creators of this movie is actually a corporation regurgitating what they think is "cool". Now I know where my sense of discomfort from the movie comes from.
Literally the first plot point mystery thing would have taken at MOST 3 days to solve
I loved the book because I was in a bad point of my life and reading it kept me distracted. But all those things aside, RPO was Cline's first book ever, it's pretty good for his first novel.
I know I'm late on this but I have to add something I hated from the movie, when IOI kills his aunt he almost completely forgets about and I felt that Wade was to busy trying to get some instead.
Thank you so much I’ve been thinking about how beyond stupid the driving backwards thing was all year
Watching Ready Player One as a kid, it was genuinely kinda disturbing seeing the Iron Giant being used as a weapon. I watched that movie a lot, and really connected with it. So watching this big, lovable robot with the spirit of a child going full rip and tear didn't sit right.
Even as a kid, I thought, "Isn't this the opposite of the point?"
Okay, I love this rant. Favorite one I've seen from you. I had exact same cringey feeling when reading the Ready Player One book before dropping it halfway. Couldn't work out why it was so popular, and I'm glad it annoys other people too.
Someone finally put this to words! Thank you Karl!
I completely agree with just about everything said in this video, and many others, yet I still love the book. I thought it was a very enjoyable read, and that while the author is not very skilled and incredibly immature, he did a good job of creating an interesting universe. I was probably more enthralled by the challenges in the book than I should have been, but I enjoyed them. I was pretty excited for the movie to come out and when finally did I recognized that the movie was really bad, but it was still cool enough to allow me to enjoy it regardless. Maybe I'm just not picky enough.
I watched the movie in the cinema, and was completely underwhelmed. Most of it contained references a good chunk of its audience are too young to understand. And had a dumb plot overall, wouldn’t some die-hard retro fan have completed the damn game years before the forgettable MC did? Why did the game have to owned through a set of challenges, why hasn’t the game been thoroughly hacked and fucked?
+Red Greene You really need to improve your critical thinking skills and know the ways of worldbuilding.
I like the part where the big bad offers the hero the Millennium Falcon as a bride and all I could think was is that it? How about a fleet of Stardestroyers or a Legion of Astartes.
I'll have you know, my wife, her boyfriend, and I loved Ready Player One!
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Oof indeed
Oh boy
Good for you
I literally would have been the first guy to drive backwards and get banned for finding some exploit... then call rockstar only to be ignored.
Also, can we talk about how IOI is the shittiest company ever? Not from a moral or ethical standpoint, but from a pure business stance. Their entire business plan hinges on winning the Oasis. That's like if a company today spent all its time, money, and man power buying lottery tickets. No one thinks to actually develop a competing VR platform. Yeah, I know, there'd be no book and movie then, but that's kinda the point.
Honestly, I've never understood "if X were true, there wouldn't be a book/movie, therfore X is not a valid complaint about the book/movie" as an argument.
You're completely right, it really doesn't make sense in this context for a company to fight for this VR world as if it were some naturally occurring limited resource instead of actually developing their own products.
My brother read the book a few years ago and really identifies with the main character and is slowly turning into him and that’s probably why I don’t talk to him
No lie, I wrote an academic paper on Ready Player One being shite and got an almost perfect mark on it!
LOL, definitely trust the vaporwave voice modulator guy. Oh, and can we talk about an 11 year old slicing people to death in a highly realistic adult VR experience? What rating is this movie again? Where are the parents? Ha
There's some saying about earnest trolling being mistaken for zealous honest enthusiasm and vice versa. :P I can see why it could be taken as parody.
I would like to point out that according to the book Wade the only person that I've ever brought their out car back, yet they show Minecraft world and in Minecraft there is an item that will bring you back if you are holding it when you die
A lot of great points! Very insightful. Awesome video as always.
Your take on this series is the only one that matters. I don't say anything cos my friend loves it for the nerd nostalgia of his youth, but really it's terrible and you put it into perspective perfectly.
I wonder how the artist will write the sequel, I have the audiobook and I hope the voice reader is the same guy
Kers A HerpaFuqer Wil Wheaton is epic
EWWW Wil Wheaton
I think the biggest inaccuracy was that 20% of people's avatars weren't furries
I lost interest in this movie before it even released. All my friends were excited by the trailer, all I saw was a huge cash grab filled with pop culture references. Looks like I was right.
Syntheticbreed I mean if they liked it it’s a win-win dude.
Thought nothing would cheer me up today, I was wrong. Love you guys
Wasn't this just a movie called Pixels back in 2014 or something?
I liked the movie for what it is.
A fun crazy mash up of 80's and 90's pop culture.
When I watched the scene where he figures out to drive backwards I said to my niece "wait, they didn't already do that? They've been at this for how long? and didn't think to drive backwards? That's literally the first thing anyone does just for the hell of it!".
It was at that moment that realized no thought was put into this movie at all.
Watching ready player one for the "intelligence" of it is like watching Expendables for the story.
So, the main character is a redditor...