Just wanted to let you know I was about to sell all my fpv stuff and go back to the regular dji drones until I watched some of you informational videos and got all the bugs out of the tx16s and the 3 drones I bought. I now can fly and crash, fix. Thanks Joshua bardwell. Love flying outside and inside.
If anybody is confused with how it looks on Betaflight 4.2 heres what I found in an arcticle: "Betaflight changed the way LQ is displayed in Betaflight 4.2. Now it shows the RFMD value (0-2) followed by the LQ value (0-99). While the RFMD value is at 2 (150Hz latency mode) you don’t even need to worry about the LQ value. Once the RFMD values drops down to 1 (50Hz latency mode) you need to start paying attention to the LQ value because anything below 80 while in RFMD 1 is warning territory and 70 is in the critical danger zone (you need to turn back immediately). If you ever see an RFMD value of 0 then your quad is already falling from the sky."
Awesome! Didn't realized that to enable LQ from Tango 2 radio in Betaflight 4.3 development version too, I must disable anything RSSI related in receiver tab and disable RSSI sending in channel at radio receiver settings. That made both LQ and RSSI readings available in Betaflight OSD. Thanks! Now I wish to see LQ from Betaflight telemetry in DJI googles too. I hope that in some day DJI will update firmware in googles to make all Betaflight telemetry available without crippling something another.
After hobby in hiatus for more than a year upgraded my hardware zoo to BF 4.4.2 and realized that Crossfire link values in OSD are dead. Started to blame Walksnail, but turned out it was due to RSSI set on channel in Tango 2 model mixer settings. Removed it and voila - link values in OSD are back. Thanks again.
your welcome , look at the debug .. it has a lot more ... has warning (blinking) you may wish to tune that . ect.. fyi... i'm the dev that added it . i used it 3.5 and 4.0 bf.. have fun ...
Thank youuuu for this! Any input on what my rssi and rssi-.... should be?! Im getting like 30 on rssi when like 20 yards out. 70, - high 80's right next to me... and Im getting -40 / 50 on the -rssi..... but 299 / 199 -180 all while about .5 km out.... so Lq is good but not surrre exactly about what to think about the other 2?! Im gonna mount my antenna vertically NOW and go see if that changes anything.. Thanks again!
Finally i can replace my TBS POWERCUBE FPVISION for long range, Link quality info is whats preventing me from replacing my Powercube, and less wiring too! the only thing missing now is the Miliwatt info of the crossfire module.
Thanks for this skyrot, might seem obvious but didn't think of it. I would have searched my ass off if i did not read your comment. After upgrading TX and rx'es it did work right away!!!
Enabling LQ with a FrSky system (2.4 and 900) will give a number between 9 and 0. A guy on Reddit once said it means "frames" so when it shows 3 you only receive 3 of 9 frames or something but I was never able to confirm that. The value is changing consistently and in accordance with the RSSI.
Crossfire has 3 modes, and it's pretty easy to set up a logical switch for the taranis to beep or chirp when entering mode 1 (100hz) and mode 2 (50hz, no telemetry). Mode 0 is the 150hz connection. Don't know why they ordered them like that but that's it.
JB, this is Great and i got it working, but now my RSSI reads no more than 50% and fluctuates from there. LQ reads 300 and fluctuated accordingly. Before the change RSSI read 99..
I've got the same behavior, RSSI seems to dip really quickly. I have the exact same behavior on my R9 stuff, even running 1 watt, so IDK what causes it but I'm not sure it's crossfire related.
@@janiofk there doesn't seem to be a solution, rather it seems rssi is being handled differently now. Even on crossfire my rssi is basically NEVER 99, even disarmed only a few feet away
why you dont have the serial rx switch on at the port tab? i used to think that if i solder my rx and tx on rx3 and tx3 then i need to enable them in the port tab. or we dont have to?
This doesn't seem to work right for me yet. I am on CF 3.23 and the RSSI won't go higher thank like 75% even right near me and LQ shows like 199. RSSI drops into the 20s and 30s while flying right near me. Went back to the aux channel and everything is working for RSSI just fine again. This is true for several quads and FCs so something is not right.
I cant figure out why my rssi reads 10 even though it still works really good. Shouldnt it say 99 or something?. Is there a way to calibrate the rssi do you know???
I have the same issue, it only displays RSSI value. I running betafligh Firmware: BTFL 4.2.0, and Crossfire firmware 3.78. I have tried both this new method and the old(th-cam.com/video/hu692NSrMPw/w-d-xo.html) method. But none of them works.
does anyone know by chance if the FrSky R9M can/will do the same? Also, on the OSD tab (2:02), there are 3 rows of elements. What is the reason for only checking the first row of them?
Your videos are the gift that keeps on giving!!! I used this to set up LQ on my new ELRS stuff... Thanks Man! What were the CLI serial port commands? I slowed the video down to watch but didn't really understand what you were doing?
Great video, but I had something odd happened to me. From out of box (new), no channel was set for RSSI, the Aux Channel for RSSI was disabled in BF, version was 4.2,Telemetry enabled, RSSI was on OSD, and only OSD of zero shows. Then, I set up the old way using an aux channel (channel 8 on radio, RSSI Aux 4 in BF), also turned on LQ, and the RSSI showed up. THEN, I reverted back to not using the aux channel as originally received, and the RSSI shows just fine. I'm glad it's working, but it seems like something had to kick start it to get the OSD to pull that Crossfire RSSI telemetry. Was this because I needed to discover sensors or something else? It always nags at me when I fix something, but don't know what I did.
3:05 .. Hey Joshua.. did you realize that RSSI is arround 80% ? may be a problem with rssi scale in BF 4.1 or higer?... will be nice your thoughts about it. thanks!
If anybody is confused with how it looks on Betaflight 4.2 heres what I found in an arcticle: "Betaflight changed the way LQ is displayed in Betaflight 4.2. Now it shows the RFMD value (0-2) followed by the LQ value (0-99). While the RFMD value is at 2 (150Hz latency mode) you don’t even need to worry about the LQ value. Once the RFMD values drops down to 1 (50Hz latency mode) you need to start paying attention to the LQ value because anything below 80 while in RFMD 1 is warning territory and 70 is in the critical danger zone (you need to turn back immediately). If you ever see an RFMD value of 0 then your quad is already falling from the sky."
With this method the RSSI Scale is not the TBS RSSI Scale to which we got used too... is there a way to have the TBS RSSI into the osd with this method?
@@Simon-xx4wm If you have the full size crossfire just power it up and power up the quad(rx), then go into the rx menu and under channel map set channel 8 as RSSI or LQ and use the old setup. I.E. choosing the right aux in the receiver tab. Same with the micro you just have to use LUA scripts. Hope this helps
Awesome vid JB! Only problem is I fried my quad on a 13,800v power line yesterday! Actually it just fried my ESC, I hope, cause my FC still works I just don't get any beeps. Had to call the fire department out to help get it down but the weren't going near that power line which I didn't blame them. So they shot it off the line with their water hose. Happy to get it back but sad that I have to get another 4in1 ESC also bummed big time that my GoPro didn't record the rescue as it had died right before the fire truck showed up. I felt like a douche but the fireman were really interested in my quad after they noticed the lights were still on after hanging from a power line and getting shot with high pressure water. I showed them the live FPV feed on the new FPV Watch I got from Kwad Box and they were blown away lol! I have a backup though but I don't like the Hypetrain acro motors compared to the Xing motors I have on my goto quad. Guess I'm spoiled now with my Xing motors lol! I'll have the video up on my new FPV Channel at DigiLog FPV.
Joshua, do you need to use exactly BTFL 4.1.0, or could it be a higher version? mine uses BTFL 4.1.2 and it ain't working. I use DJi Digital FPV Googles also, idk if it works with it?
Good to know. I still haven't upgraded to 4.x. Everything runs perfectly now i don't want to mess with it. I run all my switches through one channel so I'm not starving for channels. I have the radio set to audibly alert me when crsf modes change. The only feature that tempts me to upgrade to 4.x is the osd profiles for my gps enabled quads. Are there any other must have features recently introduced that are worth potentially wrecking finely tuned setups?
I was just setting this up and noticed it takes up 2 aux channels that I use for arming / beeper etc... so have to tinker with the channels... E2a... ok now see the part that says it doesn't take up any auc channels...
I set this as well and it looks fine however the RSSI is jumping between 50% and 80%. when I set the aux channel for RSSI then the LQ is gone and the RSSI is back to 99% any reason why it happened?
I wish the LQ & RSSI thing had been in some sort of 'Crossfire Crash Course' video for people new to it because when I had a failsafe with it, people who saw the DVR footage said something was wrong with my RSSI because it was all over the place, and I had selected RSSI not LQ which is why I wasn't seeing 99% all the time, like I do now I selected LQ.
I just got Crossfire and using it with Jumper T16. I have followed this video on getting RSSI/LQ on the OSD (without using the aux). However, I can't get LQ to show (RSSI works). I use DJI FPV Goggles.
@@TransAm2k4 I contacted TBS and they said, you have to update your TBS Agen X . You can find the newest firmware is version 3.23 www.team-blacksheep.com/products/prod:agentx
Yes yes yes! This was really cool, I love it! But my symbol for Link quality is replaced by a (. What kind of font should I use to get it displayed properly?
Flash the OSD font with the 10.6.0 or newer configurator, it'll give you the right font. I think pretty much every version of betaflight has tweaked the OSD font a little bit.
Hello my name is Donald and I do bad ass kitchen and bath remodeling not electronics, right. Anyway I recently bought arric250v2 with at9s pro crashed it 4 days after purchase,took me 4 days to find it when it got out of my sight it just kept going,so broke off vtx antenna and the little board it was hooked to,and not working since I got new patr on and all drivers firmware back to normal according to B.F. continue to gave me a fit so I have learned so much n last month but I need some advice or instruction on the rest please. Betaflight => B.F. in receiver tab my rssi I 18% and I been tired of doing the wrong thing to not fix it,what do I need to do?
im having an issue. i just got iflight titan xl5 PNP. i connected XF nano rx correctly and am getting 99 rssi signal. did the betaflight stuff but for some reason no matter what i do im getting 0 Link quality on OSD and also link quality warning no matter what unless i turn off Link quality in warning tab otherwise it never leaves. i dont know what i should do. i have betaflight 4.1.2 for Target: BetaflightF4 its so annoying because i cant get LQ to show even though i have rssi/Lq enabled in XF tx and nano settings from radio. please give me some tips or help if possible i would appreciate it very much🙏
I presently have Ch 7 (Aux 3) set on the Nano RX to LQ to get that in my OSD. I see what you are saying in the FC setup, but what do I do on the Nano RX, just remove the setting of LQ (etc) from any channel? ie - what should the configuration on the Nano RX look like? thx!
Hello! Great! what are the alert thresholds to configure in the Betaflight OSD? how to reverse the value of the RSSI: 0 to 150 rather than 150 to 0? thank you
cant get lq or rssi dbm to show up, but get changing rssi now. changed my rx channel 8 (aux 4) back to ch 8 from RSSI. followed your steps, but no luck?
Im using the Micro tx v2 with bf 4.2 and nano rx immortal T. My link quality is 2: 100 mostly all of the time. But my RSSI ist at like 65% (even the transmitter sits right next to it) !!! When i fly a little further my rssi drops down to 35 - 45%. There is something wrong, but i cant figure it out. Anyone has an idea?
If anybody is confused with how it looks on Betaflight 4.2 heres what I found in an arcticle: "Betaflight changed the way LQ is displayed in Betaflight 4.2. Now it shows the RFMD value (0-2) followed by the LQ value (0-99). While the RFMD value is at 2 (150Hz latency mode) you don’t even need to worry about the LQ value. Once the RFMD values drops down to 1 (50Hz latency mode) you need to start paying attention to the LQ value because anything below 80 while in RFMD 1 is warning territory and 70 is in the critical danger zone (you need to turn back immediately). If you ever see an RFMD value of 0 then your quad is already falling from the sky."
Hey Joshua, would be nice to know how to set the right value for OSD RSSI Warning in Betaflight now because RSSI is now dopping faster than before where we set an aux channel to read LQ as RSSI. Do we know have to disable the value because its more accurate in reading rssi from crsf or can we still put a value into where it´s going to be critical?
So does that mean on the crossfire output channel I no longer need to set ch8 to LQ? Or is that still required to get LQ in OSD using method you outlined in this video.
I love the rssi dbm and lq in osd. Also i want a warning if im getting low at it. But how to set the proper rssi dbm minimal value ? Because if i turn on warning of rssi dbm it always shows up telling me rssi dbm low?
I am just trying my first crossfire quad ever.. My Rossi stays in the 60’s and I just failsafed in the next room like 30 feet away.. Where should I start to troubleshoot it?? Maybe antenna orientation and that stuff??
Bardwell HELP!! im getting the SNR value for rssi in my osd the LQ is working as expected but not getting the actual RSSI value just getting SNR i thought i was having low RSSI but figured out the value matches the SNR in the Taranis. is there a way to change this without using an AUX channel ? i know this is showing in dbi but i still cant get it to show the - value it just shows 78 not -78 what am i overlooking!
Thanks for the vid Joshua. You forgot to mention that not all TBS firmware versions support this feature. I got my tbs tx/rx set in 2020 and it still has fw ver 2.42. And it does NOT work! More to say, we here at Russia have tbs agent blocked and can update FW only through a VPN 🤦♂️(dont ask me why ☻)
@Joshua Bardwell do you no longer set a Crossfire Rx channel (CHx) for LQ and/or RSSI with BF4.1? If a channel is set on the Crossfire Rx now, does it need to be disabled to use just the OSD method? You forgot got to mention that part! Arghh!
It's showing 2:100 but you have it off the right side of the screen so you can't see the 100. 2 is the opmode, which used to be given by whether the LQ was 300%, 200%, or 100%. Now they just show it separately.
@@JoshuaBardwell Ill try moving the osd element, but why would the LQ and RSSI be so low right next to the kwad? Seems like brand new tx and rx less than a yard apart should have much better signal.
@@JoshuaBardwell you were right about the LQ in the OSD, and I understand what that means now. The scale is 0-100 now instead of 0-300. So 2:100 is 150hz and perfect LQ. So i guess the low RSSI doesn't even matter as long as that is good.
There is some wrong information in this video, that I think you should correct. 200-300 is 150hz mode, 100-199 is 50hz mode, below 100 is 4hz mode! Thats why you sometimes get stuck at 199, your in 50hz mode with "perfect" LQ and it hasnt switched back to 150hz.
Hey mate, Can you explain how to fix it being stuck at 199?. I'm having the same problem, my LQ goes from 300 straight to 199 and just stays there. Is this a bug? or somthing that can't be fixed?
@@benloader8 no, it's just confusing in how it is displayed. You know how crsf has 150hz and 50hz mode? 199 means that you are in 50hz mode (100) but have "perfect" link quality (+99). It means that crossfire has not yet decided to switch back to 150hz mode. I think you can force 150hz mode, but I do not think that's smart, because 50hz mode has about twice the range, if I remember correctly
@@dumbledumb2585 just trying to eliminate potential variables that may be similar. My situation has got worse. Went for a fly today and failsafed at 40 meters. Was hoping for an awesome long range crossfire system, instead it's crossfucked. I'm also using the micro, but with a QX7. I'm beginning to think there is a bad batch if receivers going around.
RSSI dBm goes from +20 and descends into negative numbers. The exact failsafe level would depend on the ambient background nose level. It's much more significant to watch LQ.
Nice! However it is not clear to me if I still need to put rssi and lq in the channel map of the nano rx setup via lua, so the receiver outputs these values? Or you can leave them out there too? Because betaflight has more than enough channels, cx only 12. Or this is only a osd improvement?
@@JoshuaBardwell Cool! So they are send to the fc via the uart rx and tx (by convention output 1 en 2 in the output map config of the nano crossfire) ?
Hi Joshua, Thanks for all your videos, they guided me through my first successfull 5" build from scratch! Question regarding this video: I use Crossfire, but when I set up the LQ and RRSI values in Betaflight, I just get "0" and low alarms on my OSD. Any guidance with this? Thanks!
@@scramblerfpv7124 Yes, not in the "new way" though. In TBS Agent X, I configured my crossfire RX by setting up an aux channel to output LQ. In my case, it was Channel 8. Then, I went to Betaflight and on the Receiver tab, in the RSSI output I selected AUX 4 (equivalent to channel 8 on the receiver). Finally, on the OSD tab, I selected the RSSI to be shown on the screen. This will output a value from 0-99, however it will actually be representative of your LQ since that is what you told the receiver to output via Agent X. Hope that helps.
@@DANHjAM Honestly brother, I'm foggy on the details of what I did. So I know I took off the RSSI/LQ on the Nano Tx via the Lua Script. Then did everything else that Josh went over and it finally started working. Although I'm only getting 75% RSSI right next to the quad. Think that's a calibration issue. And then I'm getting (300 for the LQ. I think that's a font issue I have. If your still having trouble take a look at installing the Drone Nation app on your phone. Ask the question there and we can crowdsource getting the fix. It's like instagram for drone people only. But I've found it very helpful.
I want OSD warning to flash when I reach low rssi, can I set it up on LQ, or does the warnings flash setting only work with rssi? And what sort of figure is a good level, 50 LQ? 100 LQ? Obviously before it failsafes..
I just tried this on 4.1 and it does work but I'm wondering how to change it back to the old way. I kind of liked how before it would show a simple percent value of LQ rather than raw RSSI or raw LQ.
Nevermind. Re-upload the font as suggested here in the comments. All you have to do to switch between the old and new systems is either leave the RSSI on the channel that it used to be on, or put it to "disabled" in the receiver tab. You have to power cycle the FC when switching between these systems, then the OSD will reflect the changes. You can run the old percentage system with %LQ displayed, or the new raw value system.
My dji goggles read rssi at 99 constant ! I have set my rssi channel to lq. Is it even reading the lq or just stuck ? Do I need to switch back to rssi. ?
Okay, I'm coming over from the R9 system which I got running flawlessly and could go forever , but I wanted to push it even further so I invested in the crossfire mini , and put a diversity Nano in my quad and set up rssi this way with everything updated to the latest firmware, 500 milliwatts and the quad basically beside me the reception never goes above 70% I almost threw it in the trash before I realized other people were having this issue? Do you know what's going on here?
If I look on my taranis at the tx/rx reception with everything plugged in that shows 99% I noticed luckily before I gave up and thought i got a defective setup, is this just a bug or what's going on?
The standard TBS setup for Crossfire alerts is based on telemetry sensors and is not affected by how you set up the OSD. So basically it should work the same.
did LQ on betaflight 4.0.X and up not work properly with frsky? because ive been using that for a while and it seemed like it worked and was accurate. when my rssi signal was low the LQ dipped but not linear with the rssi and seemed independent.
on FrSky the LQ value is keeping track of dropped frames, so when its dropping below 9 it means that not all of the packets are being received by the receiver. Personally I take 7 as a good hint of "I've flown too far". Its like they still sound loud enough, but you don't get every word.
Not working for me, I am running BF 4.1.3 and 3.23 on the Crossfire transmitter and receiver. RSSI_ADC is off. I get 0 for RSSI, -130 for RSSI dBm and 9 for LQ. Could this be because the Crossfire receiver is connected via SBUS? It works via the old AUX channel method.
Yes that's correct. You need to be using CRSF telemetry to make this work. It won't work if you're using SBUS because you don't have telemetry data getting to the FC.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks, good to know. I'm having the same issue. Though, I'm using the V1 crossfire micro. Telemetry is via the BST cable on V1's. Do you know if it's possible to still get it working on the V1 micro CF receiver? Thanks!
@@JoshuaBardwell I should’ve mentioned I have TBS fusion, since I asked the question I found the answer in the module menu itself Thank you for your response, I love your videos extremely informative
Great vid JB, excellent idea, BUT OSD says LQ199 but CSF TX LCD display says 100% for uplink and downlink. what is going on? (CSF is v.3.23 for TX and RX. BF is 4.1.1)
LQ in BF OSD scales from 0% to 300% depending on the RFMode. LQ is sometimes also scaled 0% to 100% which is my guess as to what the CRSF module is doing. In the end, you would have to ask TBS why there is a discrepancy between the two. Only they really know the answer.
Just doesn't work for me. As soon as I set the RSSI-channel to Disabled I get nothing. And yes, it's BF 4.1 and every TBS-component is updated. Is there a specific setting on the Crossfire receiver that needs enabling? It has Telemetry enabled, seems to make no difference if I tell it to output LQ (or LQ/RSSI) on a channel or not.
Can somebody help me with the next problem. My osd RSSI value says 99 (perfect), but my RSSI dBm value stays at -130.... Am I overseeing something? Just followed all of this video. Multiple times, but don't get any further
Joshua Bardwell thanks for the advice! I went on it and i found that i had still used my channels in the lua script. Switched that of and now i have perfect LQ at 299-300 in my OSD. Went out for s flight and crossfire just nailed it with the range! Thanks for all help you have supported me with through all of your videos! JB a.k.a. livin’ wikipedia for drones 🚀😉
@@JoshuaBardwell Umm... tried both method. The Brain OSD CRSF widget doesn't show anything at all(or it is in the bottom of the screen and got out of frame?). BF LQ OSD has only 1 digit like '9' and BF RSSI OSD has no input only show 0 db. My Taranis shows the CRSF telemetry as always, no problem on both Rlqy, Tlqy. FYI it strange on my RadixLi that CLI command "resource list" turn out as ERROR: INVALID RESOURCE NAME: 'LIST'. 😵 so confuse.
It doesn't matter how you get RSSI into the FC. You can use this method. But you will need to have the "RSSI" element turned on, not the "Crossfire RSSI dBm" or Crossfire LQ" element.
@@JoshuaBardwell So basically what you're saying is that you can only have RSSI in the DJI OSD and you don't have to set up anything anymore to get RSSI in the OSD.
so LQ is dropping to 76-78% when I use this method, as opposed to putting it on a AUX, I tried rssi_offset = but I'm not sure this the right way to adjust crossfire LQ. Anyone elas lose there 99% LQ?
@@TexasWaterstbs never gave an answer for how rssi % could be done . just that rssi dbm should be used. the calculation of how they converted rssi % in aux to 0-1023 in the TX module is unknown . and yes you can set the rssi_XXX values . each setup would vary . ie 10mw output vs 500mw I never trust it regardless of the manufacture . i have seen a lot rx loss failsafe with 99% rssi.
@@nonamer8030 Thanks for your explanation but I still wish I had a clearer understanding about TBS's RSSI and out of the 3 OSD's signal options, which one to use and if all 3 then how to set them up right.
@@TexasWaters depends on you intended flight style For long distance rssi dbm you need to know how far you can go . For race and freestyle lq you want to try and stay in the 200 mode There is nothing to set up what you see in the osd is what tbs reported in the tx. Tbs does not recommend rssi % . Look at the noise level before you power up the quad that's why some want the snr also I use the debug mode for that on a osd switch
hello its been less than one week i got a brand new 5" 6s drone which included the dji goggles and i got also radiomaster+ crossfire...all updated running 1watt output on crossfire and 1200mw video and 50mbps on dji fpv..remains to add the gps module which i dont know if worth the time to solder on will it even work properly? but my main problem is that on OSD in goggles not all options appear on screen...i have the Rssi but i want the Qlink mostly and this dont appear among other options who dont appear also..is there any fix for that? as for the Rssi i m pretty sure the value showing is incorrect..i have set on TX the crossfire channel 8 to Rssi/LQ ...then on betaflight i disabled the Rssi ADG on setup screen and i set to channel 4 on the reciever tab the Rssi..then on failsafe i set the channel 4 from hold to set at 1000....where am i doing wrong? please my main question is about showing on OSD in goggles the Qlink value..that i care mostly
I have the same issue, it only displays RSSI value. I running betafligh Firmware: BTFL 4.2.0, and Crossfire firmware 3.78. I have tried both this new method and the old(th-cam.com/video/hu692NSrMPw/w-d-xo.html) method. But none of them works.
What's up with the 2 different RSSI readouts in your OSD, The one in the middle of the screen above LQ is obviously in dB, then you also have the RSSI in the bottom right corner, do you need both, are they different?
Just wanted to let you know I was about to sell all my fpv stuff and go back to the regular dji drones until I watched some of you informational videos and got all the bugs out of the tx16s and the 3 drones I bought. I now can fly and crash, fix. Thanks Joshua bardwell. Love flying outside and inside.
Absolutely loved the "Everything takes 500 times longer" song. Thanks for the video Joshua!
I'm waiting for the new album to drop!
A Crossfire LQ between 300 and 200 means 150 Hz Mode, between 200 and 100 it‘s 50 Hz Mode and then it switches to 4 Hz Mode below 100 LQ
So dropping to 100 going long range is all good ?
since bf 4.2 it shows 2:100, 1:100...did i miss something? i want my 0-300 back :(
If anybody is confused with how it looks on Betaflight 4.2 heres what I found in an arcticle: "Betaflight changed the way LQ is displayed in Betaflight 4.2. Now it shows the RFMD value (0-2) followed by the LQ value (0-99). While the RFMD value is at 2 (150Hz latency mode) you don’t even need to worry about the LQ value. Once the RFMD values drops down to 1 (50Hz latency mode) you need to start paying attention to the LQ value because anything below 80 while in RFMD 1 is warning territory and 70 is in the critical danger zone (you need to turn back immediately). If you ever see an RFMD value of 0 then your quad is already falling from the sky."
The song at 2:19 is hilarious. I don't have crossfire (yet) and that made this video soo worth it.
Awesome! Didn't realized that to enable LQ from Tango 2 radio in Betaflight 4.3 development version too, I must disable anything RSSI related in receiver tab and disable RSSI sending in channel at radio receiver settings. That made both LQ and RSSI readings available in Betaflight OSD. Thanks!
Now I wish to see LQ from Betaflight telemetry in DJI googles too. I hope that in some day DJI will update firmware in googles to make all Betaflight telemetry available without crippling something another.
After hobby in hiatus for more than a year upgraded my hardware zoo to BF 4.4.2 and realized that Crossfire link values in OSD are dead. Started to blame Walksnail, but turned out it was due to RSSI set on channel in Tango 2 model mixer settings. Removed it and voila - link values in OSD are back. Thanks again.
Bardwell, always coming in clutch when I need him!
your welcome , look at the debug .. it has a lot more ... has warning (blinking) you may wish to tune that . ect.. fyi... i'm the dev that added it . i used it 3.5 and 4.0 bf.. have fun ...
Thank youuuu for this! Any input on what my rssi and rssi-.... should be?! Im getting like 30 on rssi when like 20 yards out. 70, - high 80's right next to me... and Im getting -40 / 50 on the -rssi..... but 299 / 199 -180 all while about .5 km out.... so Lq is good but not surrre exactly about what to think about the other 2?! Im gonna mount my antenna vertically NOW and go see if that changes anything.. Thanks again!
Finally i can replace my TBS POWERCUBE FPVISION for long range, Link quality info is whats preventing me from replacing my Powercube, and less wiring too! the only thing missing now is the Miliwatt info of the crossfire module.
BrainFPV Radix has a crossfire widget with the full info.
Make sure to upgrade to the latest Crossfire firmware with the 'TBS Agent X' upgrader! This should save you some time and headaches! :D
Thanks for this skyrot, might seem obvious but didn't think of it. I would have searched my ass off if i did not read your comment. After upgrading TX and rx'es it did work right away!!!
@@jaapbakker2194 Cool! Glad I could help! :)
Why does my crossfire rssi never go above 80 on 4.1 ?
LMFAOOOO the song JB sings @ 2:19 😂🤣
2:38 me EVERY timmmee🤣😭🤣😭 that was so funny though
Thank you !! a true healer. a problem = bardwell = no problem 😁 thank you for all this sharing 💯👌 hello from France
it totaly working with my P16 , and TBS tango2 , thanks so much
had to find this to be able to sort out the elrs LQ and RSSI, thanks Joshua.
Wow. Almost short and to the point. You feeling ok?
Enabling LQ with a FrSky system (2.4 and 900) will give a number between 9 and 0.
A guy on Reddit once said it means "frames" so when it shows 3 you only receive 3 of 9 frames or something but I was never able to confirm that.
The value is changing consistently and in accordance with the RSSI.
for other rx's .. its like this basically . start at 9 - subtract 1 - packet loss , add 1 - no packet loss . every 9 -18 ms .
Crossfire has 3 modes, and it's pretty easy to set up a logical switch for the taranis to beep or chirp when entering mode 1 (100hz) and mode 2 (50hz, no telemetry).
Mode 0 is the 150hz connection. Don't know why they ordered them like that but that's it.
JB, this is Great and i got it working, but now my RSSI reads no more than 50% and fluctuates from there. LQ reads 300 and fluctuated accordingly. Before the change RSSI read 99..
I’ve got the same thing.
I Need help too anyone?
Brian Haley I still haven’t found a solution. All my bro’s that fly and updated have the same problem.
Question
I did that like that but if i move my radio 1 m the rssi gies down 80 to 75
Thats weird
same here
I've got the same behavior, RSSI seems to dip really quickly. I have the exact same behavior on my R9 stuff, even running 1 watt, so IDK what causes it but I'm not sure it's crossfire related.
Same I'm getting this issue, did anyone find a solution?
same problem here, i i cannot find the bloody solution, frsky qx7
@@janiofk there doesn't seem to be a solution, rather it seems rssi is being handled differently now. Even on crossfire my rssi is basically NEVER 99, even disarmed only a few feet away
Had to find this video it's super relevant now since elrs has come out
Does the same thing with RSSI / LQ apply to ELRS? Is there anything else we need to do in order to get those values appear in OSD?
why you dont have the serial rx switch on at the port tab? i used to think that if i solder my rx and tx on rx3 and tx3 then i need to enable them in the port tab. or we dont have to?
This doesn't seem to work right for me yet. I am on CF 3.23 and the RSSI won't go higher thank like 75% even right near me and LQ shows like 199. RSSI drops into the 20s and 30s while flying right near me. Went back to the aux channel and everything is working for RSSI just fine again. This is true for several quads and FCs so something is not right.
Have had similar issues with low RSSI or wildly wandering values for RSSI compared to the older method.
УРААА!! Заработало! Спасибо, Джошуа!
Fantastic, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😃
Kudos for Brain FPV!
Always! :)
1. shave
2. literally googled this yesterday and you made a video today you da man
I cant figure out why my rssi reads 10 even though it still works really good. Shouldnt it say 99 or something?. Is there a way to calibrate the rssi do you know???
JB - i cant seem to see these values on the DJI FPV goggles? does this work ? thanks
Have you had any update on this?
@@chrismasih-das5741 no Chris'. Nothing. I'm seriously hoping at DJI include this in their next release.
I have the same issue, it only displays RSSI value. I running betafligh Firmware: BTFL 4.2.0, and Crossfire firmware 3.78.
I have tried both this new method and the old(th-cam.com/video/hu692NSrMPw/w-d-xo.html) method. But none of them works.
Have you found a fix? I’m having this issue now with 4.2.8
@@rbt5785 tbh I havent. I have not recently upgraded the software as weather bad for flying but I suspect it's still locked down. Will need to check
does anyone know by chance if the FrSky R9M can/will do the same? Also, on the OSD tab (2:02), there are 3 rows of elements. What is the reason for only checking the first row of them?
Your videos are the gift that keeps on giving!!! I used this to set up LQ on my new ELRS stuff... Thanks Man! What were the CLI serial port commands? I slowed the video down to watch but didn't really understand what you were doing?
Great video, but I had something odd happened to me. From out of box (new), no channel was set for RSSI, the Aux Channel for RSSI was disabled in BF, version was 4.2,Telemetry enabled, RSSI was on OSD, and only OSD of zero shows. Then, I set up the old way using an aux channel (channel 8 on radio, RSSI Aux 4 in BF), also turned on LQ, and the RSSI showed up. THEN, I reverted back to not using the aux channel as originally received, and the RSSI shows just fine. I'm glad it's working, but it seems like something had to kick start it to get the OSD to pull that Crossfire RSSI telemetry. Was this because I needed to discover sensors or something else? It always nags at me when I fix something, but don't know what I did.
3:05 .. Hey Joshua.. did you realize that RSSI is arround 80% ? may be a problem with rssi scale in BF 4.1 or higer?... will be nice your thoughts about it. thanks!
If anybody is confused with how it looks on Betaflight 4.2 heres what I found in an arcticle: "Betaflight changed the way LQ is displayed in Betaflight 4.2. Now it shows the RFMD value (0-2) followed by the LQ value (0-99). While the RFMD value is at 2 (150Hz latency mode) you don’t even need to worry about the LQ value. Once the RFMD values drops down to 1 (50Hz latency mode) you need to start paying attention to the LQ value because anything below 80 while in RFMD 1 is warning territory and 70 is in the critical danger zone (you need to turn back immediately). If you ever see an RFMD value of 0 then your quad is already falling from the sky."
Woohooo! This is great, and a spare channel too! Hope we get power level widget next.
With this method the RSSI Scale is not the TBS RSSI Scale to which we got used too... is there a way to have the TBS RSSI into the osd with this method?
Marco Santomo i wnst to know this too
@@Simon-xx4wm It's a known issue just use the old way with aux channels or switch to LQ. The scaling is messed up
showgunnw hey i got the tbs tango1 how to setup?
@@Simon-xx4wm If you have the full size crossfire just power it up and power up the quad(rx), then go into the rx menu and under channel map set channel 8 as RSSI or LQ and use the old setup. I.E. choosing the right aux in the receiver tab. Same with the micro you just have to use LUA scripts. Hope this helps
showgunnw it works thanks man👍
Awesome! Thanks for sharing JB!
Awesome vid JB! Only problem is I fried my quad on a 13,800v power line yesterday! Actually it just fried my ESC, I hope, cause my FC still works I just don't get any beeps. Had to call the fire department out to help get it down but the weren't going near that power line which I didn't blame them. So they shot it off the line with their water hose. Happy to get it back but sad that I have to get another 4in1 ESC also bummed big time that my GoPro didn't record the rescue as it had died right before the fire truck showed up. I felt like a douche but the fireman were really interested in my quad after they noticed the lights were still on after hanging from a power line and getting shot with high pressure water. I showed them the live FPV feed on the new FPV Watch I got from Kwad Box and they were blown away lol! I have a backup though but I don't like the Hypetrain acro motors compared to the Xing motors I have on my goto quad. Guess I'm spoiled now with my Xing motors lol! I'll have the video up on my new FPV Channel at DigiLog FPV.
Joshua, do you need to use exactly BTFL 4.1.0, or could it be a higher version? mine uses BTFL 4.1.2 and it ain't working. I use DJi Digital FPV Googles also, idk if it works with it?
Higher versions are fine.
DJI goggle OSD only supports older style "RSSI" not newer "lq" and "RSSI dbm".
At now you can got lq in ur dji Google ? 4.2 ? By what way pls...
Good to know. I still haven't upgraded to 4.x. Everything runs perfectly now i don't want to mess with it. I run all my switches through one channel so I'm not starving for channels. I have the radio set to audibly alert me when crsf modes change. The only feature that tempts me to upgrade to 4.x is the osd profiles for my gps enabled quads. Are there any other must have features recently introduced that are worth potentially wrecking finely tuned setups?
I was just setting this up and noticed it takes up 2 aux channels that I use for arming / beeper etc... so have to tinker with the channels...
E2a... ok now see the part that says it doesn't take up any auc channels...
I set this as well and it looks fine however the RSSI is jumping between 50% and 80%. when I set the aux channel for RSSI then the LQ is gone and the RSSI is back to 99% any reason why it happened?
the same problem here
@@JonasCE same
I wish the LQ & RSSI thing had been in some sort of 'Crossfire Crash Course' video for people new to it because when I had a failsafe with it, people who saw the DVR footage said something was wrong with my RSSI because it was all over the place, and I had selected RSSI not LQ which is why I wasn't seeing 99% all the time, like I do now I selected LQ.
Crossfire crash course sounds like a nice video title. Get crackin
I just got Crossfire and using it with Jumper T16. I have followed this video on getting RSSI/LQ on the OSD (without using the aux). However, I can't get LQ to show (RSSI works). I use DJI FPV Goggles.
This needs Crossfire firmware version 2.94 (beta) or higher to work! ;)
THNX ;) helped a lot
The new version of my XF TX Lite firmware is 2.42 . so it doesn't work?
@@sotarFPV same question here
@@TransAm2k4 I contacted TBS and they said, you have to update your TBS Agen X
. You can find the newest firmware is version 3.23
www.team-blacksheep.com/products/prod:agentx
@@sotarFPV thanks a lot
hopefully for inav as well, thx for the vid :)
Not sure when the Radix got this, but I peer reviewed this functionality in betaflight like 6 months ago.
Yes yes yes! This was really cool, I love it! But my symbol for Link quality is replaced by a (. What kind of font should I use to get it displayed properly?
Just reupload font
When you go to 4.1, you have to reupload the font in the OSD tab. Make sure to have the battery plugged in when you do it.
Flash the OSD font with the 10.6.0 or newer configurator, it'll give you the right font. I think pretty much every version of betaflight has tweaked the OSD font a little bit.
Yes it worked now! Perfect
@@JoshuaBardwell you really know it all :)) I had exactly the same issue, which disappeared after a certain point and I did not know why :)). Tks!
Nice one sir. For safe flight how much should be the LQ and DB?
Worked fine on my 6s! Cool! Thanks!!! Just wondered why the RSSI is not showing 99 but yours is also showing 80 something...
same. problem here, did you fix it already?
At 3m12s, the RSSI is showing 79. Why is that? Isn't it almost always 99 with crossfire, at least at such close range?
Hello my name is Donald and I do bad ass kitchen and bath remodeling not electronics, right. Anyway I recently bought arric250v2 with at9s pro crashed it 4 days after purchase,took me 4 days to find it when it got out of my sight it just kept going,so broke off vtx antenna and the little board it was hooked to,and not working since I got new patr on and all drivers firmware back to normal according to B.F. continue to gave me a fit so I have learned so much n last month but I need some advice or instruction on the rest please. Betaflight => B.F. in receiver tab my rssi I 18% and I been tired of doing the wrong thing to not fix it,what do I need to do?
im having an issue. i just got iflight titan xl5 PNP. i connected XF nano rx correctly and am getting 99 rssi signal. did the betaflight stuff but for some reason no matter what i do im getting 0 Link quality on OSD and also link quality warning no matter what unless i turn off Link quality in warning tab otherwise it never leaves. i dont know what i should do. i have betaflight 4.1.2 for Target: BetaflightF4
its so annoying because i cant get LQ to show even though i have rssi/Lq enabled in XF tx and nano settings from radio. please give me some tips or help if possible i would appreciate it very much🙏
Just followed the video and I get 0 LQ -130BD and a LOW RSSI on my OSD , ( it was set through aux before ). BF 4.1 CRSF 2.4 . what am I missing ?
update your crosfire to last version
update crossfire using the new tbs agent x (download it from their site)
@@christophen9538 yes , that was it.
I presently have Ch 7 (Aux 3) set on the Nano RX to LQ to get that in my OSD. I see what you are saying in the FC setup, but what do I do on the Nano RX, just remove the setting of LQ (etc) from any channel? ie - what should the configuration on the Nano RX look like? thx!
Yes. In the Nano RX just set the Aux channel back to itself instead of LQ or RSSI.
Hello! Great! what are the alert thresholds to configure in the Betaflight OSD? how to reverse the value of the RSSI: 0 to 150 rather than 150 to 0? thank you
cant get lq or rssi dbm to show up, but get changing rssi now. changed my rx channel 8 (aux 4) back to ch 8 from RSSI. followed your steps, but no luck?
Im using the Micro tx v2 with bf 4.2 and nano rx immortal T. My link quality is 2: 100 mostly all of the time. But my RSSI ist at like 65% (even the transmitter sits right next to it) !!! When i fly a little further my rssi drops down to 35 - 45%. There is something wrong, but i cant figure it out. Anyone has an idea?
Same here, don't know why
If anybody is confused with how it looks on Betaflight 4.2 heres what I found in an arcticle: "Betaflight changed the way LQ is displayed in Betaflight 4.2. Now it shows the RFMD value (0-2) followed by the LQ value (0-99). While the RFMD value is at 2 (150Hz latency mode) you don’t even need to worry about the LQ value. Once the RFMD values drops down to 1 (50Hz latency mode) you need to start paying attention to the LQ value because anything below 80 while in RFMD 1 is warning territory and 70 is in the critical danger zone (you need to turn back immediately). If you ever see an RFMD value of 0 then your quad is already falling from the sky."
Hey Joshua, would be nice to know how to set the right value for OSD RSSI Warning in Betaflight now because RSSI is now dopping faster than before where we set an aux channel to read LQ as RSSI. Do we know have to disable the value because its more accurate in reading rssi from crsf or can we still put a value into where it´s going to be critical?
i had rssi 72 , only 3meters away = Tango 2
Same rssi 80% and lq is -31 how do we fix.
@@E3GKintalo Dont know manny people have the same problem
Thank you, JB. I dont understand why my crsf rssi only 45 🙏😀👍🍺❤️
I know this post is pretty old, but did you ever fix this issue? My crossfire rssi is stuck at 49. Ripping my hair out trying to find out why! 🤬
So does that mean on the crossfire output channel I no longer need to set ch8 to LQ? Or is that still required to get LQ in OSD using method you outlined in this video.
Just tried it and it looks like you don’t need it anymore. It works fine without outputting LQ on ch8.
Correct.
I love the rssi dbm and lq in osd. Also i want a warning if im getting low at it. But how to set the proper rssi dbm minimal value ? Because if i turn on warning of rssi dbm it always shows up telling me rssi dbm low?
as far as I know you can make a Logical Switch in your Remote... (Taranis for example)
I am just trying my first crossfire quad ever.. My Rossi stays in the 60’s and I just failsafed in the next room like 30 feet away.. Where should I start to troubleshoot it?? Maybe antenna orientation and that stuff??
Bardwell HELP!! im getting the SNR value for rssi in my osd the LQ is working as expected but not getting the actual RSSI value just getting SNR i thought i was having low RSSI but figured out the value matches the SNR in the Taranis. is there a way to change this without using an AUX channel ? i know this is showing in dbi but i still cant get it to show the - value it just shows 78 not -78 what am i overlooking!
Thanks for the vid Joshua. You forgot to mention that not all TBS firmware versions support this feature. I got my tbs tx/rx set in 2020 and it still has fw ver 2.42. And it does NOT work!
More to say, we here at Russia have tbs agent blocked and can update FW only through a VPN 🤦♂️(dont ask me why ☻)
Hopefully I may be able to set LQ and RSSI up...finally
@Joshua Bardwell do you no longer set a Crossfire Rx channel (CHx) for LQ and/or RSSI with BF4.1? If a channel is set on the Crossfire Rx now, does it need to be disabled to use just the OSD method? You forgot got to mention that part! Arghh!
You can set the channel back to Aux-whatever. But RSSI won't be affected if you do or don't change that.
@@JoshuaBardwell ok thanks!
Why does my LQ show as 2:1 and not a percentage? I don't understand. I am also having the the 75-80 RSSI sitting next to the kwad thing too.
It's showing 2:100 but you have it off the right side of the screen so you can't see the 100.
2 is the opmode, which used to be given by whether the LQ was 300%, 200%, or 100%. Now they just show it separately.
@@JoshuaBardwell Ill try moving the osd element, but why would the LQ and RSSI be so low right next to the kwad? Seems like brand new tx and rx less than a yard apart should have much better signal.
@@JoshuaBardwell you were right about the LQ in the OSD, and I understand what that means now. The scale is 0-100 now instead of 0-300. So 2:100 is 150hz and perfect LQ. So i guess the low RSSI doesn't even matter as long as that is good.
There is some wrong information in this video, that I think you should correct. 200-300 is 150hz mode, 100-199 is 50hz mode, below 100 is 4hz mode! Thats why you sometimes get stuck at 199, your in 50hz mode with "perfect" LQ and it hasnt switched back to 150hz.
Hey mate, Can you explain how to fix it being stuck at 199?. I'm having the same problem, my LQ goes from 300 straight to 199 and just stays there. Is this a bug? or somthing that can't be fixed?
@@benloader8 no, it's just confusing in how it is displayed. You know how crsf has 150hz and 50hz mode? 199 means that you are in 50hz mode (100) but have "perfect" link quality (+99). It means that crossfire has not yet decided to switch back to 150hz mode. I think you can force 150hz mode, but I do not think that's smart, because 50hz mode has about twice the range, if I remember correctly
@@dumbledumb2585 what type of controller do you use man and do you use the full or micro crossfire tx?
@@benloader8 FlySky NV14 with micro, but that shouldn't affect any of this. Why are you asking?
@@dumbledumb2585 just trying to eliminate potential variables that may be similar.
My situation has got worse. Went for a fly today and failsafed at 40 meters. Was hoping for an awesome long range crossfire system, instead it's crossfucked.
I'm also using the micro, but with a QX7.
I'm beginning to think there is a bad batch if receivers going around.
Sometimes I see LQ format equal X or X:Y. What do X and Y mean in the last LQ format? Thanks in advance.
This video explains it: th-cam.com/video/sYafWt-c7dQ/w-d-xo.html
YES finaly I will know How much I tuching edge of crosfire :D
Ok, great, I understand how LQ works.. but is there way to calibrate or make sense of the RSSI number that starts ~80? What's the turn-back number?
RSSI dBm goes from +20 and descends into negative numbers. The exact failsafe level would depend on the ambient background nose level. It's much more significant to watch LQ.
Nice! However it is not clear to me if I still need to put rssi and lq in the channel map of the nano rx setup via lua, so the receiver outputs these values? Or you can leave them out there too? Because betaflight has more than enough channels, cx only 12. Or this is only a osd improvement?
No you don't need them in the channel mapping.
@@JoshuaBardwell Cool! So they are send to the fc via the uart rx and tx (by convention output 1 en 2 in the output map config of the nano crossfire) ?
Hi Joshua,
Thanks for all your videos, they guided me through my first successfull 5" build from scratch!
Question regarding this video: I use Crossfire, but when I set up the LQ and RRSI values in Betaflight, I just get "0" and low alarms on my OSD. Any guidance with this?
Thanks!
I also get this. Did you ever fix it?
@@scramblerfpv7124 Yes, not in the "new way" though. In TBS Agent X, I configured my crossfire RX by setting up an aux channel to output LQ. In my case, it was Channel 8.
Then, I went to Betaflight and on the Receiver tab, in the RSSI output I selected AUX 4 (equivalent to channel 8 on the receiver).
Finally, on the OSD tab, I selected the RSSI to be shown on the screen. This will output a value from 0-99, however it will actually be representative of your LQ since that is what you told the receiver to output via Agent X.
Hope that helps.
Man what am I doing wrong!? MicroTX and NanoRx both updated to 3.25. Not getting anything!! Now I get 0%
Well I got it but OSD only showing 77% RSSI while LQ showing (300
Yes you can take it off once you have RSSI dB and LQ working.
@@JoshuaBardwell Sweet Thanks Josh!! Next time you're in West TN let me know.
Mine is also showing 0% LQ after the change. I can't figure it out. How did you solve it? Thanks
@@DANHjAM Honestly brother, I'm foggy on the details of what I did. So I know I took off the RSSI/LQ on the Nano Tx via the Lua Script. Then did everything else that Josh went over and it finally started working. Although I'm only getting 75% RSSI right next to the quad. Think that's a calibration issue. And then I'm getting (300 for the LQ. I think that's a font issue I have. If your still having trouble take a look at installing the Drone Nation app on your phone. Ask the question there and we can crowdsource getting the fix. It's like instagram for drone people only. But I've found it very helpful.
Is it still good to use Dynamic power? I have a TBS Tango 2 pro.
I want OSD warning to flash when I reach low rssi, can I set it up on LQ, or does the warnings flash setting only work with rssi?
And what sort of figure is a good level, 50 LQ? 100 LQ? Obviously before it failsafes..
i would like to know that too
Not sure about OSD warnings but if you're using a Taranis you can set up audio warnings - see oscarliang.com/lq-rssi-tbs-crossfire/
I just tried this on 4.1 and it does work but I'm wondering how to change it back to the old way. I kind of liked how before it would show a simple percent value of LQ rather than raw RSSI or raw LQ.
You can just go back to using the RSSI Channel in the Receiver tab.
Nevermind. Re-upload the font as suggested here in the comments. All you have to do to switch between the old and new systems is either leave the RSSI on the channel that it used to be on, or put it to "disabled" in the receiver tab. You have to power cycle the FC when switching between these systems, then the OSD will reflect the changes. You can run the old percentage system with %LQ displayed, or the new raw value system.
Yes exactly. I didn't realize you had to power cycle the FC between these changes before they take effect. Valuable info for people in the future.
My dji goggles read rssi at 99 constant !
I have set my rssi channel to lq.
Is it even reading the lq or just stuck ?
Do I need to switch back to rssi. ?
Okay, I'm coming over from the R9 system which I got running flawlessly and could go forever , but I wanted to push it even further so I invested in the crossfire mini , and put a diversity Nano in my quad and set up rssi this way with everything updated to the latest firmware, 500 milliwatts and the quad basically beside me the reception never goes above 70% I almost threw it in the trash before I realized other people were having this issue? Do you know what's going on here?
If I look on my taranis at the tx/rx reception with everything plugged in that shows 99% I noticed luckily before I gave up and thought i got a defective setup, is this just a bug or what's going on?
I'd be cool to have the module output power too like the radix.. but this is pretty cool
Thank you Joshua. Do the transmitter sound tracks still work if setting up OSD like this or must a channel still be used to activate voice warnings?
The standard TBS setup for Crossfire alerts is based on telemetry sensors and is not affected by how you set up the OSD. So basically it should work the same.
@@JoshuaBardwell Cheers, will test today, 9am Sunday Australia and about to head out. Hope you have a fantastic day.
did LQ on betaflight 4.0.X and up not work properly with frsky? because ive been using that for a while and it seemed like it worked and was accurate. when my rssi signal was low the LQ dipped but not linear with the rssi and seemed independent.
on FrSky the LQ value is keeping track of dropped frames, so when its dropping below 9 it means that not all of the packets are being received by the receiver. Personally I take 7 as a good hint of "I've flown too far". Its like they still sound loud enough, but you don't get every word.
Kyle K yeah so it’s reading right. I guess it didn’t do the same for crossfire before 4.1
So I did this and now I have 300 on my link quality but now my rssi is in the mid 60s. Grant u that is just a bench test. Is this normal?
after doing this I am also now getting shown RSSI mid 80s, before it was 99 ...
@@DogWsd you'll have to go off LQ now
Got around 60s too when before it was 99. LQ is 300. Weird.
@@taggerung890 but why does the rssi go so low that close? I understand the lq and have flowen with no problems.
@@rubiconman420 did you ever find an answer to the lower rssi values?
Works great BUT now RSSI is not 99%. Is there any way to fix it?
What can we see with dji osd sir? Thanks
Not working for me, I am running BF 4.1.3 and 3.23 on the Crossfire transmitter and receiver. RSSI_ADC is off. I get 0 for RSSI, -130 for RSSI dBm and 9 for LQ. Could this be because the Crossfire receiver is connected via SBUS? It works via the old AUX channel method.
Yes that's correct. You need to be using CRSF telemetry to make this work. It won't work if you're using SBUS because you don't have telemetry data getting to the FC.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks, good to know. I'm having the same issue. Though, I'm using the V1 crossfire micro. Telemetry is via the BST cable on V1's. Do you know if it's possible to still get it working on the V1 micro CF receiver? Thanks!
Great video, thanks for sharing! So I can use the D8 mode again :-) Do I have to disable "LQ" at the receivers channel setup (lua script)?
Yes.
Joshua Bardwell wait what? So this doesn't show all the steps..? Why have a video not showing all the steps.
What are the bars at the top of your osd called?
I lost mine and trying to find out way the heck they’re called so I can fix it
It's from the RapidFire module OSD.
@@JoshuaBardwell I should’ve mentioned I have TBS fusion, since I asked the question I found the answer in the module menu itself
Thank you for your response, I love your videos extremely informative
Oh finally they show the real values :) By the way, it also has 4 hz mode which is only useful for total geeks :)
right here with you on the 4 hz hahaha
You are the best!!!!
Great vid JB, excellent idea, BUT OSD says LQ199 but CSF TX LCD display says 100% for uplink and downlink. what is going on?
(CSF is v.3.23 for TX and RX. BF is 4.1.1)
LQ in BF OSD scales from 0% to 300% depending on the RFMode. LQ is sometimes also scaled 0% to 100% which is my guess as to what the CRSF module is doing. In the end, you would have to ask TBS why there is a discrepancy between the two. Only they really know the answer.
@@JoshuaBardwell Understood, thank you.
Just doesn't work for me. As soon as I set the RSSI-channel to Disabled I get nothing. And yes, it's BF 4.1 and every TBS-component is updated. Is there a specific setting on the Crossfire receiver that needs enabling? It has Telemetry enabled, seems to make no difference if I tell it to output LQ (or LQ/RSSI) on a channel or not.
Crossfire needs to be in 2.9.4 or newer but after that no there is no special setting.
Make sure RSSI_ADC is also disabled in the configuration tab.
Can I just check this does not impact the Telemetry sensor info in the Taranis for any logical switches?
No effect at all.
I mean... I haven't tested it but I don't see why it would have any effect.
Can somebody help me with the next problem. My osd RSSI value says 99 (perfect), but my RSSI dBm value stays at -130.... Am I overseeing something? Just followed all of this video. Multiple times, but don't get any further
RSSI dBm will only populate if you have BF 4.1 and CRSF 2.94 or newer. I think that is the most likely problem.
Joshua Bardwell thanks for the advice! I went on it and i found that i had still used my channels in the lua script. Switched that of and now i have perfect LQ at 299-300 in my OSD. Went out for s flight and crossfire just nailed it with the range! Thanks for all help you have supported me with through all of your videos! JB a.k.a. livin’ wikipedia for drones 🚀😉
Why did your rssi read -17??
Dude. Did you have it set to say whatever when you turn it on? Also, I emailed you about this issue before finding this video. faceslap
Oh my lord! I use BrainFPV radix and I didn't know that. How can I don't waste an aux channel to get the LQ and RSSI???
Either do it this way or turn on the BrainFPV Crossfire "widget" in the BrainFPV menu in the OSD.
@@JoshuaBardwell Umm... tried both method. The Brain OSD CRSF widget doesn't show anything at all(or it is in the bottom of the screen and got out of frame?). BF LQ OSD has only 1 digit like '9' and BF RSSI OSD has no input only show 0 db. My Taranis shows the CRSF telemetry as always, no problem on both Rlqy, Tlqy. FYI it strange on my RadixLi that CLI command "resource list" turn out as ERROR: INVALID RESOURCE NAME: 'LIST'. 😵 so confuse.
Can I have these in my DJI goggles with their new update? I have my goggles coming in the mail and wanted to prepare for it. Thanks!
No the new update only supports old style RSSI.
Joshua Bardwell so should I set up old style RSSI through an aux channel or this method explained in your video?
It doesn't matter how you get RSSI into the FC. You can use this method. But you will need to have the "RSSI" element turned on, not the "Crossfire RSSI dBm" or Crossfire LQ" element.
@@JoshuaBardwell So basically what you're saying is that you can only have RSSI in the DJI OSD and you don't have to set up anything anymore to get RSSI in the OSD.
so LQ is dropping to 76-78% when I use this method, as opposed to putting it on a AUX, I tried rssi_offset = but I'm not sure this the right way to adjust crossfire LQ. Anyone elas lose there 99% LQ?
YES. I did as well. was really hoping to hear an explanation for this....
@@SpikeJonesTheCr0oked Well hopefully JB can chime in here and give us a better understanding of why we lost our precious 99% signal.
@@TexasWaterstbs never gave an answer for how rssi % could be done . just that rssi dbm should be used. the calculation of how they converted rssi % in aux to 0-1023 in the TX module is unknown . and yes you can set the rssi_XXX values . each setup would vary . ie 10mw output vs 500mw
I never trust it regardless of the manufacture .
i have seen a lot rx loss failsafe with 99% rssi.
@@nonamer8030 Thanks for your explanation but I still wish I had a clearer understanding about TBS's RSSI and out of the 3 OSD's signal options, which one to use and if all 3 then how to set them up right.
@@TexasWaters depends on you intended flight style
For long distance rssi dbm you need to know how far you can go .
For race and freestyle lq you want to try and stay in the 200 mode
There is nothing to set up what you see in the osd is what tbs reported in the tx.
Tbs does not recommend rssi % .
Look at the noise level before you power up the quad that's why some want the snr also I use the debug mode for that on a osd switch
hello its been less than one week i got a brand new 5" 6s drone which included the dji goggles and i got also radiomaster+
crossfire...all updated running 1watt output on crossfire and 1200mw video and 50mbps on dji fpv..remains to add the gps module which i dont know if worth the time to solder on will it even work properly? but my main problem is that on OSD in goggles not all options appear on screen...i have the Rssi but i want the Qlink mostly and this dont appear among other options who dont appear also..is there any fix for that? as for the Rssi i m pretty sure the value showing is incorrect..i have set on TX the crossfire channel 8 to Rssi/LQ ...then on betaflight i disabled the Rssi ADG on setup screen and i set to channel 4 on the reciever tab the Rssi..then on failsafe i set the channel 4 from hold to set at 1000....where am i doing wrong? please my main question is about showing on OSD in goggles the Qlink value..that i care mostly
I have the same issue, it only displays RSSI value. I running betafligh Firmware: BTFL 4.2.0, and Crossfire firmware 3.78.
I have tried both this new method and the old(th-cam.com/video/hu692NSrMPw/w-d-xo.html) method. But none of them works.
@@geek545 i just put a voice warning on radio about Qly(link quality) when it drop the radio speaks how much % signal is and forget the osd display
What's up with the 2 different RSSI readouts in your OSD, The one in the middle of the screen above LQ is obviously in dB, then you also have the RSSI in the bottom right corner, do you need both, are they different?
The one in the bottom right is the older aux channel style. You don't need both.
Thanks once again !