City of London: Private or Public?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2012
- 4TheRecord.org
What is the City of London?
"The City of London provides local government and policing services for the financial and commercial heart of Britain, the 'Square Mile' "
www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corpor...
Private property maintained at public expense through the council and corporation taxes levied on the people who live there and the companies who are situated there. Through favorable legislation they have created a web to protect the interests of a few.
Not a lot different than the 'Royal Parks' where Royals don't go unless accompanied by the SAS ;-)
NO SUCH THING AS ROYAL PARKS THEY BELONG TO THE PUBLIC!
I've seen royalty in a royal park just driving along.
A remarkably patient Police Officer, no matter who he works for..
its always fun to revisit old videos on TH-cam where the uploader makes an arse of themselves due to stubborn ignorance. feel bad for police who have to deal with similar self-styled "auditors".
He was a nice guy.
The city of London is not part of England parliament has no authority over It, the queen needs permission to enter from the Lord Mayor
Whoever took this video should have learnt about the history of the City of London.
Would’ve learn that it’s a confusing mess avoiding the argument
Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of truth
A police contractor, working for a company
They don't understand the difference between London and the "City of London", they are two different things. The "City of London" predates Magna Carta, London is just an area based around the "City of Westminster". London is just a general unspecific term.
Extension of definition of “public place” in Public Order Act 1936.
For the definition of “public place” in section 9(1) of the M1 Public Order Act 1936 there shall be substituted-
“Public place” includes any highway and any other premises or place to which at the material time the public have or are permitted to have access, whether on payment or otherwise ”.
Plain to see why that copper failed the shelf stacking test at Walmart
Just listen and obey...simple.
When did Adrian Chiles become a copper?
Private property mean it's a civil law trespass...So this policeman is acting as a security guard !...Which in law would make it a misconduct (impersonate a police constable of the law !)...
YES. He a PRIVATE Security guard working for the roths. who the queen and pope Bow down to.
police should not be policing private property as that is a civil offence and not criminal....if it is private lol
You mean they shouldn't police football matches?
So if someone breaks into your house and threatens to murder your family, you’ll be OK with the police refusing to attend?
He's got the Queen's crown above the badge on his hat. He's employed by the crown. He, or any City of London copper wouldn't be permitted to wear that crown unless they were employed by the crown.
He's not employee by the crown, he's employed by the Corporation of the City of London (all city councils were called corporations before 1973). Ask your granny about "Corporation buses"
The crown is there as this power to arrest is given from the Crown in legislation. He will have a warrant card which says he has the authority to discharge the duties of his office, which is signed by the Chief Constable of the City of London Police. The Chief Constable gets that authority from the Crown, and the right to dismiss him sits with the Corporation of London elected members.
This vid finally got me to sleep. Cheers mukka.
Shit man, when did Adrian Chiles join the force?
Is that police officer Benny Hill?
drinking coffee while at work while interacting with the public .. he really hasnt a clue
Westminster council challenged the building stud private or public some years ago to be able to fine vehicles parked on the basement roof areas in Westminster boundaries. So vehicles can be issued with a parking ticket where the area is not segregated by a chain or similar to prevent symbolic free access. So the old building stud that everybody else goes by is now up for grabs in case law I would think oh what a complicated web doth the greedy weave. City of Westminster Vs City of London
It's just a little bit confusing.
Even the copper hasn't got a clue!
Should of asked him whether or not he would agree with the fact that the city of london police is just an extension of the city of london (as a corporation). And he therefore must work for the city of london.
When they have private property with public access then they cannot trespass you because that is a condition of them building there.
Typical british police, being polite and so. It wonders me why he went on for 7 minutes and not forced these pesky kids off his face.
He was trying to recover some ground since he was on camera FAIL!
can you tell what it is yet? yes its a private corporate farse ;)
7 minutes of my life I will never get back....probably 8 after typing this....
I never understood the definition of public vs private in UK. A private school is a school owned and administerd by the government and a public one is privately owned... Wtf!?
Nicholas R.M. Why do shipments go by car and cargo carried by ships? Ahhhh the simple paradoxes of life.
if they have a reception its accessible under section 33
I think you are missing the point. Good questions Tzim :)
He knows damn well who's pulling his strings and where his paypacket comes from!
5:25 Some PCSOs wear Police uniforms, not PCSO uniforms!
Seems very wired to me! How can it be owned by the same people but one bit is private and one is public, strange!
He's a good police officer
you have no rights when MONEY is concerned
Committee of 300 run city of londoncorp
Police working for who?
Do you honestly expect me to take you seriously typing like that?
be honest he don't know
1) 'Corporation' is an old term which was used in most of our large cities, but most changed to 'council' over the years. Look up Birmingham corporation tramways, or Hull corporation telephones. Even Brighton & Hove city council used to be Brighton Corporation.
2) Why did he have the same logo? Well, he is in the city of London. What did you expect, a Welsh dragon? It is derived from the coat of arms for the City of London.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT - COUNCILS OWN NOTHING AND SIMPLY ADMINISTER PUBLIC PROPERTY AND FUNDS! I DONT CARE WHAT THEY CALL THEMSELVES THEY ARE STILL OWNED BY THE PUBLIC. I GOT A PARKING TICKET IN BIRMINGHAM RECENTLY IN A COUNCIL CARPARK AND I PHONED THEM UP AND ASKED THEM HOW THEY WERE CHARGING ME FOR PARKING ON LAND I PART OWN - END OF PARKING TICKET!
3:45 Funnily enough the City of London Police are a private company!
All police forces in this country are now corporations but as far as I am concerned if I PAY FOR THEM THEY WORK FOR ME - END OF!
Law and Order.
Totally owned 🤣
Who are the people that own the corporation that own that square mile of England,but that "copper" was ok nice fellow
I work for the crown, not the government, well that tells you an awful lot
He works for the people as we own the Queen! All police swear an oath to the Queen so they all work for the people!
This is private property, owned by the City of London, but I won't answer the question, if, by that, the City of London is a private corporation... yeah, brilliant, mate.
not gonna argue because he know's he can't win.thick coppa
You are wasting your time mate, most of them don’t know. It’s not until you get up to inspector or higher and they do but won’t admit it. You see you see they can’t or it all collapses. To use a biblical saying (there’s non so blind as those who won’t see)
But good luck trying to educate them although fun because it messes with their head they are too well programmed to change.
You have highlighted very valid questions that need coherent answers. The 4th Estate has risen. I express my respect and appreciation to you. Long live the (real) free press.
if You Move 20cm to your left you'll be fine. Why do they bother us with these petty rules?
if a gang ov kids wer hangin abowt front ov your house .how wud u feel? and mor importly wot wud u do? homest ansa pls .and if u day a buisness/ that creates a living 4 u n ur family, u had anuva gang filming ur company how wud u feel .?
@@DL-cj9zr me no guberment thogh
They are not police. They are private security.
Human Rights Act 1998, Section 6 - "Acts of public authorities"
"(1) It is unlawful for a public authority to act in a way which is incompatible with a Convention right."
Section 6, makes NO mention of "Disturbing the peace" or "arrestable offence".
Before quoting legislation you should at least read it first.
"I'm not getting into an argument with you"= "you've got a vaild point and I feel stupid now"
"Listen to me"= "I've got a set speech I use to intimidate and it usually works"
Cop confused about his own lies.
The CITY OF LONDON is older than London. Its was founded by Roman traders 2500 years ago before England was a country and before Jesus walked the earth. The original walls can still be seen near London Tower. It is private Land with its own Police force, Mayor and laws.
i think the mayor is a wog not a roman
@HariHari YES. He a PRIVATE Security guard working for the roths. who the queen and pope Bow down to.
Oh I thought an invading force stole land? It belongs to the people of this country no matter what some Roman did 2500 years ago! Or with that logic it would still belong to the Romans!
Central London is a corporate by the bankers that’s why they got there own police and mayor 😂😂
Whole thing is totally pointless. That officer was being perfectly polite.
Perfectly polite JUST WRONG!
He looks like a unlicensed security guard,city of London police should not be considered a police force
The comments being displayed on this post are some of the most idiotic, misinformed and sheer unadulterated rubbish I have ever seen and read. As to the bunch of Cretins questioning the Police Officer, well the less said about them the better, its quite obvious that they were attempting to goad the Officer.
No they were attempting to learn from the officer but he was clueless!
Why?,Why?, are you persistent in asking dumb, childish questions.
BEWARE OF CHILD badge is needed.
OK maybe not stupid, more don't know who I work for, or was he just being evasive,either way he was not very professional ,,,
how can someone not understand that a public body can own land which is private property!? can you imagine if we all walked into schools whenever we felt like it because the land is owned by a public bodyhaha
HOW CAN A STREET BE CLOSED OUTSIDE OF SOME DISASTER? OR HOW CAN PEOPLE WALK INTO A SCHOOL WHEN IT IS CLOSED? No public land is private property but nobody is going to walk into a shop on public land when it is not open etc. But nobody can turf you off a street!
"You were breaching the peace, or attempting too, and got pushed away from an area you were trying to enter that was cordoned off by police officers"
You obviously didn't watch the videos properly. I never attempted to enter any cordoned area. I was pushed into the cordoned area. On top of this I had authorization to be in Parliament Square under Section 132 of the Serious and Organised Crime and Police Act. "have a read"
The only people committing a breach of the peace were the police.
4TheRecord Don't fuck with the City Of London Police. They are London's anti-terrorist police, the armedpolice, they can stop, search and detain for no reason, they are nothing like the Met Police. They have access to facial recognition software used with the cctv in Westminster. The people under their protection is the government and Buckingham Palace. He could have taken your camera and you wouldn't have got it back with any film footage and thet would answer no charges.
The reason he can't answer the questions is because it is wrong to say "I can do whatever the fuck I want."Which he knows he can. When you study your rights, study closer the part when it comes to City Of London Police. I know lots of people stopped by them. Nothing like the Met Police.
Totally outwitted.
That policeman is pretty much a security guard for the city of London corporation as simple as that!!! Talking about wolf in sheep's clothing!!!
you need to know how the law in the city of London differs to Greater London, despite both being part of the Greater London Authority. before making stupid comments like this.
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The man in the uniform is not acting as a sworn constable. He is acting for a private corporation called "City of London Police", which is registered as a commercial enterprise with Dun & Bradstreet under the number 424787281. His only powers are those of a Common Law Constable, unless you give him consent.
A court is public property but during closing times one could claim it is private. Private in the sense that the general public don't have access (locked doors).
I was using the word private to refer to individuals, business, corporations, etc. that have ownership rights over land and property and are not funded by the Public.
IF ITS PUBLIC ITS MINE SO I SELL IT TO YOU FOR 1 PENNY
Yes the council sell land for a penny to private housing companies. This is theft in my opinion! I am still trying to work out what happened to all the money from the sale of council houses that cost much more than a penny|!
@@karenbevis8179 And why is there only one Monopoly Commission?
all I can tell you is I know shit, but what I do know is the corporations own me not the taxpayers
Then you are a slave! Nobody owns you unless you allow them to. Dont let their jargon fool you - you as part of the public own every council in this country! You also own the Queen!
waste of police time
poor Mr policeman completely brainwashed . you handled him well
He isn’t brainwashed, he is just trying to do his job,get paid and go home.
@@emmanuellet6057 exactly what is his job as a city of London police man?
Enlighten me
Hey all talk the same like robots.
He hasn't got a clue what he is talking about, he is obviously not schooled in the right approach to dealing with the every day public , idiot cop or what ever he is, he doesn't seem to know.
OMG SO MANY HAIRS SPLIT BY THE POLICEMAN TOTALLY IN THE WRONG !!!
Another smart a## aren't you supposed to be at a job? no course not...silly me
Thanks for your input. At the time of filming this video I was in full time employment. Unlike you I don't need to work 24 hours a day 7 days a week and actually had plenty of free time to spend outside of working hours.
4TheRecord Any product with Royal seal of approval has the Royal logo on it. The manufacturers don't work for the Queen. I think your point about the City of London logo didn't exactly demonstrate your power of reasoning. It was laboured to the point of ridicule. The patient officer did well to remain to listen to you.
He was at his job and a darn site more worthwhile than yours is I bet! Freedom is the most important thing on this planet you thicko!
"I work for the City of London Police" Which in turn works for the City of London FFS
He's not as stupid as he lets you think he is. That's the problem.