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With Mamamoo it really seems like RBW thought that their popularity in it self was enough “promotion”, which is simply not possible with 99% of artists even some of the biggest
FR they're focussing more on oneus and purki because mmm member's contracts are ending soon and they need to make money as a company
@@hridyanadappattel4400 i mean it's logical for a company to focus more on their new groups since usually they don't have a loyal fanbase, and it seems like it's working for Oneus, idk much about Purple Kiss
i hope they can promote mamamoo new comeback well tho, but i think it's rational for them to want to create new stars rather than depend always on their most famous group
@@nekame pk is forming their name and fandom (maybe isn’t as big as other groups, but they’re doing it slowly 😄)
@@hridyanadappattel4400 ending soon? MMM have renewed their contracts. I forgot who but one member decided not to stay with RBW but will still promote with MMM. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
@@maiicookie that's good to hear ❤️ i like their songs, i'm not aware of their situation in sales and stuff but their music deserves that promo for sure
People hating or disagreeing with older groups still not disbanding is one of the reasons why companies debut minors.
That has no relation
@@GigiM_winx There is a relation. Especially in SoKor where ageism is prevalent.
@Nema Mto Kpop is battle royale. The longer you stay there the more it shows that you have become privileged.
companies debut minors because they want to be able to use them longer, so they start earlier, not because some ppl disagree or are hating on older groups not disbanding lol.
in this video op mentions (both young and old groups) and why he is surprised they didnt disband because of:
1. mismanagement
2. lack of popularity and therefore money loss
3. surprised at suju's 17 year career despite how competitive this industry is.
at the end of the day it comes down to money- if the group makes money the company has a reason to keep them, thats why op is surprised that the groups (mentioned) are not disbanded- they dont bring in a lot of money, if any at all.
@@miracleboi7336 but when the members of old groups debuted they were also often minors? The 4th gen didn't invent that tactic, so I don't understand what that has to do with old group's popularity
Momoland is really a sad case. They didn’t deserve that company and all that hate.
exactly
I'm never forgiving a good % of the kpop fandom for how they treated them tbh
@@m00nl1ghtj3w3l I really liked that group I was surprised when I saw all that hate especially towards Nancy and Jooe. The kpop fandom is just one big bully.
Day6 was so horribly mismanaged... I miss my boys so much; they're getting surprisingly a lot of projects whilst all of the remaining members are in the military though. I've always believed that their music spoke for itself and that their talent will make them rise naturally; but the lack of support and promotions really killed any momentum they had from You Were Beautiful and Zombie.
In my opinion Sweet Chaos could have been one of the biggest songs that year especially since this style of rock has become much more popular due to anime, but it got so little promo literally no one has heard of it.
they seriously have the most interesting music in jyp with so much variety, but the situation now is like a trainwreck ending to their career. Mistreating one of the members and then punishing him for speaking out about it is insane. Its like an employee getting injured because of the workplace conditions and then getting fired because they tried talking about it. Barely any of this is their choice.
I miss Jae I miss OT5 😭
Can i ask you guys what specifically studio j could've done to promote more? I just feel like in terms of promotion, studj did what they could for Day6. For one, zombie literally couldn't have promotions at the time so why bring it up? I think a lot of Mydays undervalue the support and fandom that Day6 has as a Korean band. They're definitely more loved than underrated
Even if Mamamoo left RBW, I don't think they're disbanding any time soon. They've jumped through so many hoops to keep the group together and I expect them to get the rights to their group name and forge their way somewhere else if RBW continues to fail to promote them. That aside, their comeback ILLELLA is NEXT WEEK and it's fucking huge, all of the songs sound amazing and they're promoting everywhere: Knowing Bros, It's Live and K909 with audiences, Guerrilla Date, Look My Shoulder's Dislocated, Busan Asia Festival and they even have a NETFLIX show coming out next week. So keep your eye on mamamoo because they're coming back for real this month
MAMAMOO IS COMING BACK FOR USSS
BE READY MAMAMOO IS COMING HOME!!! THEY'LL NEVER LEAVE US STRANDED!!! MOO'S BE READY 💚💚
I love mmm's music and had no idea they were getting a show!! Ill def be tuning in
@@bbkyuu yes!! :) the show is called Take 1 btw, and it's about artists preparing a performance as if it's the last stage before they die
ILELLA WAS SO GOOD OMG
Was kinda surprised at the Mamamoo one. I don't know much about the group, but it seems to me like they still have a solid fanbase.
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Yeah i see a lot of MooMoos all the time. Their fans are like rlly dedicated both domestically and interanationally from what ive seen
they really do and the members are all really close too + they have creative freedom so it wouldn't make any sense for them to disband
I came here to attack as I am a moomoo (jk). but yeah, the 11th oct comeback is prolly their second last comeback. since wheein's contract ends dec 23, hwasa june 23 and moonsun june 24. I hope they do go on forever though T_T
and they just annaunced a comeback!
Mamamoo hasn’t disbanded because the fan base is still very passionate and there are many of us. Wheein left because she was feeling to comfortable and wanted to challenge herself. They might not be as huge in our countries but in Korea they’re still a huge deal, they’re all looked at as kpop royalty pretty much over there, and they genuinely care about eachother so yeah I’m not surprised that they’re still going ✌🏼😊
Twice have 120 awards while Mamamoo have 40. and this is based on Korea so you can't say that Koreans don't know Mamamoo. they do, but they prefer Twice. even in Korea they're not as popular as people like you claim.
@@SapiaNt0mata u ok? there wasn't a single mention of twice in this comment lol
and yeah, twice is bigger than mamamoo, but that doesn't mean that mamamoo isn't huge (even in the Olympics there was that ridiculous controversy cause one of the korean athletes was a fan of mamamoo, and that was seen as a sign of feminism - so misogynistic knets widely know mamamoo and they're not even their target audience...)
@@malicechalice yes i am. why wouldn't i be?
so what? i took the liberty and expressed my freedom of speech and i mentioned it by myself. got a problem? i don't care. cope, rage, seethe, mald, stay mad, get angry. if you want to act hysterically cause i dared to mention Twice's name you do you. but is there a law against it? no. is there a rule against it? no. is it forbidden? no. then i will mention Twice, Blackpink, Enhypen, BTS, Stray Kids and any other name i want. this kind of thinking that we shouldn't mention group names in other groups MV's, etc is transcending stupidity and it needs to stop. if i mention another groups name will your day get ruined? no. will your entire life get ruined? no. will Mamamoo's day or life get ruined? no. they will be just fine. then what is your god damn problem? "someone mentioned Blackpink's name in Mamamoo's video. omg. how dare you?". if you can't see by yourself that this is actually bad then i don't know what to say. keep being like this. it's none of my business. but know that when you act like this you're the one that is not ok. not me. i don't act hysterically like this and loose my sh1_t just cause someone mentioned another groups name so i can say that i'm perfectly fine and sane. on the other hand people like you and others like you is questionable.
@@malicechalice why do you wackadoos always miss the point even though it's right there in front of you? the point is not to show that Twice is bigger than Mamamoo. it's that people prefer Twice over Mamamoo. it's right freaking there cause i typed it: "this is based on Korea so you can't say that Koreans don't know Mamamoo. they do, but they prefer Twice". how can you miss this kind of obvious point? u ok? as it seems no, otherwise you wouldn't miss such an obvious point.
huge is not the word i'd use. huge is the fanbase of Twice. for Mamamoo i'd use "fairly big" or "slightly big". Illela got 10 million views in 1 day while Pink Venom of Blackpink got 100 million. i have to say the same thing again cause you will still miss the point. the point is not to show that Blackpink are bigger, even though it is. it's to show that Mamamoo are not big as some/a lot of Mamamoo fans/stans think they are.
@@SapiaNt0mata wow, you're definitely not okay. When was I acting hysterical? You're the only one acting hysterical here lmao. Calm down a bit... Your rage won't make your faves any bigger.
What keeps Mamamoo together is their love for making music together and the fans. the fanbase may not be as big in numbers but we are one of the most loyal ones.And the reason for staying is, even if they are badly promoted, they make good music, and did not stop every year for the last 8 years. I personally just pull out a mamamoo playlist depending on my mood and they have songs that cater to that. Stanning mamamoo is stanning artists more than idols, so music show wins are not as important to me than seeing them grow in their musicality. And this upcoming comeback is just another season, another genre, another ground to cover. So I'm sorry to disappoint you, regardless of the agency, Mamamoo is not going anywhere anytime soon, their next chapter is just getting started.
FACTS!!! WITH CAPITAL LETTERS.
Where's the lie? I agree with you. And besides solar said she'll take care of mamamoo as much as she can! Lets all just show support and appreciation. Mamamoo saranghanu! May the group and their solo career prosper!
THIS.
AGREED moomoos are incredibly loyal. They don't the leave the fandom and always come out of the woodwork when they have official group comebacks. And it's because mamamoo are genuinely family and make amazing music together. I'm so excited for this era coming up, ILLELLA sounds so good and they're promoting everywhere
It would be much better for the group to continue their career in a different company and management rather than being managed with the bare minimum. If they're a big three group they would've been in the same lane of success as Red Velvet and Twice do.
I am Laughing over the idea of Suju disbanding. They don’t want to and are still popular in a Comfortable way. Not in a desperate to succeed way.
Longevity isn’t about being 1# on the charts Always. It’s about having a solid and consistent fanbase that always comes out for you.
Suju has that in spades! Plus they have their own music careers as soloists, writers, producers etc etc and entertainment roles. They don’t Need to desperately produce single after single. They are the ultimate Goal of ANY pop group. Popularity even into middle age, combined with respect.
exactly like even if i wish sm would promote them a bit more, i know suju honestly wouldnt be able to keep up with idol schedules on top of their own personal ones. they are past their prime and they are very aware of that. they have a solid core fandom which isnt even small in any way...i think its only small in usa/europe which also happens to be where most twitter/youtube kpop stans are nowadays
@@marycielochavez7273 suju are known and popular here but I’d say groups the older groups that are more popular here are bigbang and shinee but suju have a big fanbase in the west. Just most of the hate they get tends to be from western Kpop fans online which doesn’t equal to irl
@@marycielochavez7273 uh, idk if youve ever been on twt but NOBODY likes suju 💀
@@miamihottiehotline yes im aware, most of their still active fandom is either off twitter or really only engage with other suju accs since stan twitter can get so messy for them lol
@@miamihottiehotline that's just on Twitter tho?? Either way they still are popular in the west
Why would groups like suju and mamamoo disband? I don't get your reasoning. They have solid fanbases. The members seem to get along well. Since their positionts in the industry are already established they can focus on solo activities and make all group comebacks from time to time. Seems like a perfect way of doing things, much more freeing than before.
Right? The reasoning in this video was a bit weird. Truthfully, even if these groups are starting to become ‘old’ and don’t garner nearly as much attention in the international sphere and kpop community, they are still, imo, the few rare groups that I actually see continue being in the industry for a long long time. Both groups are extremely respected in Korea, has a solid existing fanbase, seem to get along well, and very successful solo carriers. Suju (and Mamamoo is starting to do that) have gotten away from the typical idol image, and appear on reality shows regularly as celebrities. It is in their interest to keep the group alive on the side cause it will make the fan happy (also they might just be attached to the group). Having solo activities on the side and maybe one group comeback per year is striking a good balance I feel like.
Their fame and respect in Korea doesn’t reflect the popularity globally. K-pop is extremely competitive as an industry, so international success is almost required.
Exactly. Especially with SuJu, it’s so clear that SM doesn’t disband groups because it’s much more profitable to keep them going. I think international fans also don’t have a good grip on the fact that, at the end of the day, these groups ARE Korean. They promote there and stil have a good following and image. Why would they disband just because they’re not as hyped up or relevan?
Since he said SJ was voted on by his channel members you can tell it's a hate vote. All over Twitter and tiktok they hate SJ because it's trendy to do so
@@k9_xx not because it’s trendy, but because the group is a mess. I can’t help but like their music though.
It makes me so sad mamamoo isn’t getting the promotion they deserve. They’re my ult group so I hope this comeback they can shine!
They are now!!! They're promoting ILLELA/MIC ON!!! (which are BOPS! No gaslighting, it actually legitimately sounds fantastic) All individual teasers have half a million views, 500k+, comeback teaser #1 has 800k+ in THREE DAYS, and their #2 teaser already has 400k+ in 9 HOURS! They're promoting on Knowing Bros, K909, It's LIVE (with an audience!), Guerrilla Date, Look My Shoulder's Dislocated, Busan Asia Festival and on Netflix next week!! Mamamoo's are coming home! 😭💚
GOOD NEWS THEY'RE NOW WITH THEUR NEW COMEBACK 'IELLA' PLEASE TUNE IN !!
Good news! They're back and will be promoted nonstop heard they will do a world tour too.
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I don't see suju disbanding for a long time. I know everyone pretty much hates them but they have an pretty stable fanbase in several countries and the members seem to enjoy being a group so I doubt they'll be going anywhere anytime soon
idk why people say they need to disband like they just minding their own business the fact that they still making music is impressive and sm is not just abandoning them cause they aged a bit
@@monochrome8731 they have their own label so SM can’t do anything.
It's because Donghae has threatened to release nudes of all the members, if they try to disband. They have no choice 😉
But seriously, why would they disband? Most of them are very successful individually and can afford to just put out group music whenever they feel like it. As long as the releases do reasonably well, I don't see why they would even consider disbanding.
@@maheephoenix4398 it's still under sm so label sj pretty much is sm.
The hate they get is really ridiculous, but in a way it shows that they are still relevant :)
SUJU is that group that has established really strong to the industry, not only music but also drama and entertainment like... you really can see at least one of them in every show now
Plus, the way they have their own label now, it makes me think that they will keep going as long as they have the passion on the industry
im not an elf but didnt a member threaten the other members with nud3s if they left/disbanded
@@shokodoll Yes but at the same time people say that the threat is beeing made by some old Hard stans.
@@shokodoll it was like an inside joke with elf.. whenever anti$ saying suju should di$band instead of getting mad elfs will be like "yeah we're waiting for it too so we can finally see the nud€s"
@@TenemosQueHablarDe... Which member was it?
@@shokodoll yea but it was like clearly a joke haha
I mean.... Mamamoo just annaunced their comeback and the promotions are WILD.
Seems like they actually realized they actually have to manage and promote them properly.
It's going to be really interesting once they start having solo work again.
but cant understand..why rbw, after over year to do comeback and putting amazing trailers and images...why only 3 songs??!! they have chance to make huge impact
@@hossetttren253 Right?! I expected at least six considering the work they were putting, but three... THREE?! Like I want to know the reason for that. Were the memebers too busy to make six songs? And three different album version for three songs? I dont get it
@@pqm6383 i am curious too and if i spoke korean id send question to them. Knowing the level professionalism and work ethics the girls have they would do 2 albums if they needed to. Look at girls they doing festivals too. Noting that the extra songs would be b-sides songs, i dont think it woild been too difficult to just add 1 or 2 more songs at this point. Like you i really cant understand why not reg album esp since theyre contract expiring next year? Everyone hyped of their comeback been so long.
@@dharling97 i am bit worried as read do to baseball game next week, the music shows have been cancelled for the baseball coverage. This affects all the groups not just mamamoo.
The longevity of Super Junior is not "somewhat" impressive. As you mentioned, it's unusual for a K-pop group to last more than seven years, let alone 17 years. They started when K-pop was still considered a niche and social media was not as prevalent as it is today. There's a reason they've lasted this long and continue to thrive. They have the talent and the charisma, in addition to a large and devoted fan base. They were very hands-on in their craft too. Regardless of their individual gigs, the members would always introduce themselves as Suju members and would tell everyone that they were carrying their group's name with them in everything they did. (like acting, variety, directing, etc.) Leeteuk went out of his way to help the group succeed even more by proposing the launch of their very own label. Super Junior, TVXQ, Shinee, and Girls Generation's hard work gave birth to the big 3 privilege.
Don't forgetting boa in contribution to make SM bigger .. she is reason super junior, tvxq and girls generation were able yo debut
@@BhaktManomandirVihariniUma Yup and the fact that she is still around too is also quite impressive
Actually, even though B.I did leave, Bobby and DK are the ones that produce the songs. They still self-produce, they just aren't allowed to release which really sucks.
Super Junior gives me hope that Exo will have a full group comeback one day
suju didn’t have full group cb since 2015 im sorry😭 but i really hope for exo it will be different
their last comeback flopped hard
@@lanlan0319 mango is a bop
@@lanlan0319 DFTF or the suju comeback? because DFTF is the 2nd most successful exo album behind only DMUMT
@LanLan03 you're mad exo paved the way
Suju is not somewhat impressive. They are IMPRESSIVE indeed. And i don't see them disbanding anytime soon because i guess now they bonded way beyond contracts. They made their own label, though still a subsidiary of SM. So if people are butthurt on why Suju kept getting more comebacks, it's because they have SJ Label. Now I think they have comebacks just to gather and have fun while saying hi to the fans lol
saying "somewhat impressive" was rlly biased lmao
And even Heechul who is unable to really perform fully for dances still joins comebacks. So, we won't be seeing them disband any time soon.
How can they disband if they keep filling every concert they do. Super Junior may no longer be in the top three groups, but their future is just as solid.
It just feels like SuJu will never disband. And I'm fine with that, even if I don't stan them. It's nice to have a group from 2nd gen still be active today. House Party and Mango are very fun.
Yessss, hope groups like SHINee will go strong to, and hoping for some new tvxq content like an album maybe?
@@leabaden5935 OH yes, I need Shinee and tvxq to make a comeback
There are many 2nd gen groups still active, it's just a lot of them were in the military for the past few years & some have lost members. 2PM and 2AM, Highlight (BEAST), FT Island, CN Blue, U-kiss, Infinite, Teen Top. B1A4.
I didn't even know people talk about SuJu like this, it isn't anything new SM focuses on their newer groups and doesn't manage older groups much after the 10 year line.
I'm more surprised BigBang are still technically active tbh it's not like they do anything in the entertainment industry apart from releasing music & now that TOP has left YG I'm pretty sure they won't do any group activities in the future.
@@chasdore
Idk and I didn't know that TOP had left his company but I'm not really surprised, this guy has a lot of talent and an unique voice but his company never took his solo career seriously when he could have done some great things... I'm sure he left for something better.
@@shizukagozen777 Yeah he announced he decided to leave just after they released their song this spring. I agree he never had the freedom to let his potential shine, BigBang was from the start a group created solely for the sake of GDragon (nothing wrong with that) and some of the members had been vocal they didn't like being restricted like that anymore but YG didn't handle anything of what happened in the past few years well. So I applaud him for taking this step for his own good.
No because people really hype iKON during kingdom but YG took a whole damn year to let them having a comeback.. The hype obviously dies down and the comeback wasn’t promoted properly as well. As an iKONIC, i never understand how YG manage iKON and it really frustrates me. They shouldn’t disband but they should really move to a better company
the reason SuJu still exists is just bc, whether we as outsiders like it or not, they are a _very_ iconic group. Many of their members are just beloved in SK. Older kpop fans have nostalgia for them
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I'm surprised UP10TION is still together. After PDX101, you would think with one member being in X1 and another damn near making it into the group, their popularity would jump but instead, the company just kept their most popular idols as soloist and then poured all their love and attention into MCND leaving UP10TION as what...?
UP10TION had so much potential
They made up10tion nearly famous, but then 2017 during their peak, top media pulled all funding and marketing etc and just burned a lot of bridged just to sabotage them. Even seen with how they dont want popular members in up10tion
up10tion is one of the groups that I first listened to when I got into kpop alongside bts,got7, svt. I thought they were going to be big and after produce, I thought they would rise back up again. I’m so sad for them
@@sunkissedangel I’ll never forget. iKON, Monsta X, GOT7, SVT, & UP10TION were the 5 groups i binged back to back to back around 2015/2016 when i first got into K Pop and to think where they all stand compared to UP10TION is so disappointing
Its honestly so weird bcos they shouldve gone the victon route and put the members back into the group. Victon was quite successful with Seungwoo and Byungchan back after pdx101 and u10t would deffo has the same popularity with wooseok and jinhyuk back in the group.
I am not a fan of Super Junior but I also don't see a reason for them to disband. They're doing quite well, same for SNSD and Shineee. BigBang's Still Life topped the charts even though the group lost one member and they didn't even show up. You really want to disband good groups just because they're old..... ?
honestly blackswan situation is weird af... we knew dr was adding sriya and gabi (cheeky lil attempt at covering up the huge drama) but then when they were officially added it was announced judy and youngheun "graduated" (which uhh what this isn't akb ... you don't have another group for them to graduate to???) i mean there could be all kinds of fishy reasons for that .. but honestly i think the company wanted them gone (weird move bc youngheun had a big china fanbase which is where most the groups sales came from) i feel like they wanted a global kpop group but needed to have korean members to break onto the scene and then got rid of them when they felt like they didn't need them anymore, so they could then have a fully global international group .... idk it's all very weird and feels like stunts to gain attention but this is the company rania came from so what did we expect.. who knows what's going through their minds honestly. anyway support fatou's mixtape p.w.a.p.f !!
I agree fully with you. When the company announced a new member out either Sriya or Gabi, I knew they would add both and potentially get rid of Youngheun or Judy or even both. I commented on something a while back thinking that the company’s end goal was to have a fully foreign group with no Korean members. And because of the group’s history back to the Rainia days when Alexandra joined the group the line up changes were frequent.
We smell rania 2.0
@@michaelkenneth4520 they definitely are now
Honestly, I'm really surprised they haven't been disbanded yet. Even back when they were still Rania, they weren't doing all that good, though I think their music was better back then. They just feel like a cash cow now, like the company is trying to milk them for all they're worth before they let them go.
I LOVE the fact that Super Junior is still active and doing their own thing. I really enjoyed their recent comebacks and I hope they will continue performing as long as they wish.
SuJu are legends
I adooooore Day6 and I really wish them all the best. Their talent deserves more recognition and they deserve more success
same!! as a myday, it hurt seeing them in this list but i absolutely agree with the points that were made
Same!!
Yes! I don't consider myself a myday(?) but I really do like them. They've released many good songs and they are very clearly talented. I really wish the best for them but, I don't think things will get better for them until they're all gone from JYP.
Pretty sure Suju will "disband" at their own volition. They love what they do and their concerts are the absolute best, they're pros in every part of the k-industry and are everywhere on the media. They're really impressive being relevant individually from debut til this day. They have been the busiest group in kpop for 3 years in a row and have almost no time to promote as a group at all anymore, not even for performances outside of their concerts, but I hope they continue to make music in the future since their discography is *chefs kiss* and their latest releases have been the best SM has put out every year. I mean, House Paty?, Mango?, Burn The Floor?, Black Suit? Devil? 2YA2YAO? Sheesh.
bobby and donghyuk both can produce songs too so i think in this sense ikon are safe
Loved Hwasa’s recent comeback it was sooooo good and should’ve made so much noise!
Mamamoo is my ult, but you are speaking nothing but facts. The fact that the only solo wins are coming from the only member to leave RBW speaks volumes. Like you said, there was no excuse for Hwasa’s I’m a B to fail-it was a great track and very much in keeping with the kind of music she puts out. Only problem was no one outside the fandom heard about it.
Also, can we talk about Moonbyul’s solo tracks? Why do they keep giving her juvenile cute concepts? Byul is nearly 30, and it’s obvious she prefers darker, more boy group-esque concepts, as in her Dark Side of the Moon mini album. It makes zero sense to try to brand her as a cutesy, hyper-feminine artist.
I’m sorry, but the members are very hands on when it comes to their concepts and solos. It is true that Moonbyul has a tomboyish image and brand, but she has expressed multiple times that she wants to be versatile and do whatever she wants. It is not obvious, like you stated, that she prefers dark and boy group concepts. She looked happy promoting Lunatic and CITT, and I don’t see the problem with her having a youthful and bright concepts at the age of thirty, which is still very young. And even though these concepts were more feminine so to speak, she still wore androgynous and tomboyish outfits.
i think w moonbyul she chose what she wanted to do? like my moon- she said it was one of her favorite all time songs
I half agree… mainly bc I disagree with the take on Moonbyul. Personally I was obsessed with her comeback this year. Yeah maybe the dark stuff suits her. But I think she still suited this concept. It’s not ‘cute’ it’s just more lighthearted. And considering Mamamoo are very involved in their own music and the whole creative process. I doubt she was forced to do anything she didn’t want to do. She also did look very happy performing them so I’m not sure why people like you claim she didn’t enjoy it? Maybe you didn’t like the song and thought it didn’t suit her, but clearly she’s having fun and chose it for herself for a reason. Personally I think she’s very versatile
All members actually do have a solo win apart from Moonbyul. I think the reason Moonbyul has not achieved a solo win yet and has not been as successful in her solo endeavours is more to do with the music she's realising rather than the company. It feels like Moonbyul hasn't found the type of music that suits her yet. However I do think RBW could do a better job at promoting all the Mamamoo members.
Moonbyul made her own concepts and I think they work for her, the main issue again is promotion and also that it seems like people just aren't aware that she even has solo songs...
(I agree with the stuff about MMM as a whole though
It's literally normal for iKON to explore different genres and their mini album was heavily produced and written by the members. I still don't get the thing with "oh hanbin left, ikon should disband." 💀 its as if Bobby wasnt there helping Hanbin most of the times when it comes to making music. So far, they're doing great for a group that had a huge scandal because of Hanbin.
I love But You
WHY DID I START CRYING WHEN IT CAME TO THE GWSN PART
I feel you...
SAME i love them way too much 😭
I almost did two there one of the only girl groups who do house music it’s kinda hard to find that genre in kpop
All of their songs are so amazing and well done :c they’re all super talented too they deserve so much more
I know the girls so I'm not surprised Mamamoo hasn't disbanded. They've all said they want to stay with each other for a long time. RBW is just trying to push their other groups because they're trying to go public. They haven't been able to go public because Mamamoo still gives them the majority of their money. There's a reason that rbw is called "Mamamoos company". I hope they can get away, Moonbyul co owns a good portion of the songs copyrights, so the legal process shouldn't be as difficult as it could be.
BlackSwan currently dont even have a main vocalist... they only have Sriya as a lead vocal.
So they will probly add 2 new members & have an OT6 comeback by the end of 2022 like they originally promised back in Summer
The Super Junior one is so funny because... why would you think they're gonna disband ??!
They were a project group created by SM, supposed not to last but the fans fought for them since the beggining. They have a massive loyal fanbase in Asia and South America, so they have solid sales numbers and sell-out concert tours. Plus all the members have established themselves individually as actors/entertainors... So they're busy all year outside of group promotions, they don't have the pressure of younger/smaller groups to create a smash hit every 5 months.
I'm not even a big fan of them, but they're K-pop legends at this point and they're not leaving any time soon.
I'm surprised that You're not a big fan but still know all of these information
@@Dinsung3 lol. Some groups are big enough that even if you're not crazy about their music or their members, you're familiar with some of their title-track and general infos, if you've been into K-pop for more than a month. For example I know about Big Bang, BTS, Twice... even though I wouldn't seek out music or content from these groups. I particularly like SHINee, f(x) and Red Velvet so I got exposed to pretty much all of SM groups.
I've only seen 4th gen crybabies complain that SuJu should disband, no 2nd or 3rd gen complains about that actually. But let's be real, 4th gen K-Pop ''stans'' always complain about 2nd/3rd gen groups for being active for ''too long'' and for being ''too old''... but I never hear any of those crybabies complain about SHINee
But if Day6 disbands, seungmin will be so sad.
Ill be sad too…
Ya don’t say
Rbw basicly neglected mamamoo since 2021 to prove their investors they didnt need mamamoo (which they still do) and started to overwork their other groups (mainly Oneus)
I don't even stan Oneus, but even I noticed that they ALWAYS have a comeback. Like I literally see their new albums in store every couple months. How many comebacks do they have in a year? They definetly deserve a break.
@@g.g.1176 I do stan them and i definitely noticed the increase in their work. They usually had 2 comebacks pretty spaced out from eachother per year but last year they had 3, this year they had 2 but they could probably go for a third, which is the same case for purple kiss (another group under rbw)
RBW doesn't know how to handle a group of 4 talented ladies, also the fact that they don't know how to promote their artist sucks. guess they only needed the money but not their groups/artists. 😒🙄
DR music made so many questionable management decisions for like idek how long at this point. Like its genuinely baffling to me that they are still technically an active company.
I really think their music production is a front for something else. I don't know how they can have that many people in and out of Rania and Blackswan and not make much money, but can still keep the lights on. It's giving me TS Entertainment energy.
ohh with suju they WERE supposed to disband, sooman wanted to make them a group with changing members (like he tried with nct later) but they were too successful for that (like, literally, their debut track being popular is the only thing why they didn’t disband)
and sm well💀 doesn’t really treat them as a privileged group, they had to make their own label almost by themselves (they’re really stubborn okay THATS A WHOLE DIFF STORY)
It seems like MAMAMOO’s company is actually trying for this UPCOMING COMEBACK TITLED ILLELLA which is on 11th OCTOBER 2022. There are multiple tv shows, programme appearances for promotions (which is the bare minimum) and apparently they’re gonna be promoting them overseas too (let’s hope the company actually does it). But we definitely are looking forward to this next comeback and hope the company doesn’t waste their potential
I have no words to express how upset I am that new kpop fans criticize an “old” group because they are still active. Super Junior makes their music in their own company without bothering anyone, they don't even bother if they participate in music shows or not, they want to make music because they love it. Why the fuck does it bother you so much? Take care of your favorites that I don't mess with them, let each one enjoy their group without questioning why they haven't separated. They get upset if teenagers debut but complain if there is a group with members over 30 years old being active in music. Nothing works for them! You have no idea how much these “opinions” that only generate hate and malicious criticism towards groups and their fandoms annoy me. Mamamoo won't have as many numbers as Blackpink but that doesn't take away from what an excellent artist they are. Super Junior no longer reaches 50 million views, but they continue to play WORLDWIDE concerts for their fans. Why does everything have to be evaluated if you don't reach 100 million views, you're a flop? Grow up a bit.
Ok Ik for sure ikon is not gonna disband plus Bobby made their music as well their music today is good they have bops I love me some ikon they did that Tho it’s just yg entertainment has terrible management
Heavy on Momoland. MLD Entertainment could have had one of the top girl groups if they just would have played their cards right, but instead they’re debuting a new group of Jessi clones 😭😭
fr 😭
Ugh so true
LMAO WHY WOULD MAMAMOO DISBAND?!?! They are having a comeback OCTOBER 11TH stay tuned to the BEST GROUP THERE IS!!
but I do agree that the company is so bad for real. I need them to leave that trashy company NOW!
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they gave them zero proper promotion. they got to where they are because of their talent and talent alone. Imagine where they would be if they were treated right!! ughhh
They have so much to offer. they are the funniest group, insane vocals, good team work, real artists that do their own crafts, outspoken, stand up for what's right, hold their own opinions and don't just follow what everyone says or does, all rounders, write lyrics that doesn't degrade anyone, empower women, respects other artists and so much more I can mention. There is NO ONE like them. They would not be where they are rn if the company supported them and promoted them well. please
i mean not all idols who leave their companies and want to stay together can do so successfully.. and i think it's likely they'll leave rbw at the end of the contracts as rbw has done nothing for them this year and last
@@candyhyojung1860 Personnally, I believe that if Mamamoo wanted to switch companies, they could. But who knows.
And while it’s true that the company is really fumbling some stuff concerning Mamamoo, I believe the situation is way more complicated. We’re living hell as international fans due to the company’s bad promotions, or simply as fans cause it’s irritating knowing they, in fact, could be more popular, but tbh they are thriving, appearing a multiple variety shows throughout the year, having a lot of freedoms and creative liberties, and still having a solid fanbase. Saying that rbw did nothing for them is false (though I hate that company a lot too), so we’ll have to see if they decide to renew in the future. For me, the fact that they didn’t sign contracts with the same lengths shows that they are still uncertain themselves…
@@lia_anh they gave them zero proper promotion. they got to where they are because of their talent and talent alone. Imagine where they would be if they were treated right!! ughhh
They have so much to offer. they are the funniest group, insane vocals, good team work, real artists that do their own crafts, outspoken, stand up for what's right, hold their own opinions and don't just follow what everyone says or does, all rounders, write lyrics that doesn't degrade anyone, empower women, respects other artists and so much more I can mention. There is NO ONE like them. They would not be where they are rn if the company supported them and promoted them well. please
@@eleni3979 Believe me, I totally get your sentiment, I’m mad that they’re aren’t promoted properly. It’s true that rbw dropped the ball a lot with them, but I just want to point out that the situation isn’t black and white l.
I feel like people underestimate Mamamoos importance in the Kpop industry. JYP, and PSY have chosen to collaborate with them. Seniors like Girls generation, Apink, and Park Bom, have said that they're Mamamoos fans. Moonbyul is the most credited female idol ever. I think any company would sign Mamamoo if they could.
Mamamoo have been my ults pretty much since I first got into loop and I couldn't agree more. What's sad is that I strongly believe they are some of the most talented, interesting, funny, and inspiring idols with a GOLDEN discography. Everybody knows mamamoo and yet they're nowhere near as successful as they could be. Moomoos often compare them with blackpink (which blinks obviously hate) but I get where the fandom is coming from. Both have this bad bitch girl boss persona, they're a quartet, a powerhouse on stage and very talented. Mmm should be more internationally successful but RBW let's them down (also bp has three English speakers which is a huge advantage). I think a lot of Moomoos has just accepted this by now and have learnt to just enjoy mamamoo. I actually like it like that because the fandom is less competitive and than others. A lot of people say stanning mmm is like stanning artist's not idols and I agree. I don't need them to take first place on every music show, I just want them to be happy and spread their music and influence to as many people as possible because its so so good and so slept on. Check out their albums, you won't regret it. All that being saaid, please support their comeback next week hahaha. Moomoos want to show RBW and the girls how much we've missed and value them.
Edit: for the moomoo vs blink thing I didn't mean this in a competitive way, more just weighing up the two and thinking about where mamamoo might be if they were in big 3. I'm also a mooblink so I don't mean to start a fight or anything! Just pointing it out.
What are you talking about, moomoo doesn’t even compare Mamamoo to blackpink…..
Me as a mooblink 👁👄👁
I have similar feelings. I want the four members to be happy. I want them to be successful enough so that they stay together happily and also have thriving solo careers. I want them to keep making good music, and to enjoy doing so. I want them to be well enough known so that everyone who would love their music will have a chance to hear their songs and decide whether to explore their full discography.
I don’t need them to fill stadiums with huge ticket prices on the primary market and colossal ticket prices on the secondary market. (I feel that they rarely seem that happy on the large festival stages, compared to their obvious joy at performing in medium-sized venues in front of Moomoos.) I would love for them to have an international tour, as long as it is a happy experience for them.
My belief about Mamamoo is that they are not a fad or a passing phase. They have an exceptional discography. To start with, every song is well composed and well written and well produced. Those vocals, though… Even their crack songs have moments where the vocals take my breath away. Just listen to Taller Than You or AZE GAG. Those songs have plenty to sustain them just from their energy and attitude and crackness and beagleness. They don’t need sick vocals on top of all that. But it’s Mamamoo, so they do it anyway. Even for a crack song. When they turn it all on for the ballads, how do we even survive?
The other thing that is not a fad or a passing phase is their message of self-acceptance. They are not superheroes or fantasy figures with magic powers. Their message is that they are regular human beings, like all of us, worthy of love and self-acceptance. It’s a lasting message.
never saw real moomoo comparing mamamoo with bp tho.. in the other hand I saw a lot of non moomoo comments on mamamoo contents that said their fave is better than mamamoo
@@orbies Lmaoo they do it all the time, they also tear them down and insult them.
Dia and clc disbanded this year
Suju already established. They don’t need to be disbanded . Elf is harmonious and they own their own label. And i hate people underestimating suju. They were the biggest bg in their time . They won back to back artist of the year before exo and bts exist
nah i doubt SJ will disband any time soon. they still have a dedicated fandom in Asia and several members remain famous/relevant in the entertainment business. i'm not an ELF but as a 2nd gen fan, it's cool to see a 2nd gen group be active even during the 4th gen time.
I think RBW is doing a great job promoting Mamamoo come back this time the teasers are on point ,they attend a lot of festival to promote themselves again and they will be airing on a lot of TV shows
Mamamoo’s member are good as soloist but fans are still looking forward for them as agroup , I don’t think they should disband cause the fans like MAMAMOO and know them better as a group than soloist
If anything, the break might've prevented them from getting burnt out, and they can keep up the stamina
SUPER JUNIOR cannot disband because they love us, ELF and we remain loyal to them. We cannot always do the streaming cause we are busy but we have enough to buy albums.
i agree with all of these and tbh i think pixy might be next up on the list if they dont break thru a bit in the next year. im worried about their future seeing as altho their fandom is so dedicated it is still small and they barely get any views, plus they lost 2 members not long ago. i really pray that something changes for the better in their next comeback
Omg yesss I recently just got into Pixy a few weeks back after seeing their mv for Villain and I'm so disappointed they have such little views for all their mvs, barely exceeding 3-5 million😔 their dark concept, songs & mvs r so freaking amazing. But yeah I'm also worried there's a possibility they'll disband soon since there's subtle signs already. They're obviously not bringing in that much revenue due to low sales & the recent loss of Ella & Satbyeol r just worrying already😭 like u I also do hope there's a miracle they'll gain popularity soon but the chances r so thin right now considering how congested the Kpop industry is at the moment especially with girl groups😣
omg noo i don't want to think about that i just met them the last month 😭
@@nekame exactly! ive loved them since they debuted and they are coming to my country this month but i can’t go to the concert bc i have a really important exam the next day. i fear that i’ll miss my only chance to ever meet my one of my top 3 favourite kpop groups :(
I think they have good enough music that they *could* unexpectedly get a hit, but it’s just the classic precarious situation of a relatively unknown 4th Gen gg.
THEY LOST 2 MEMBERS ? WHO ???
Not groups I am surprised haven't disbanded YET, but certainly groups I am very worried about for the future:
1. BVNDIT - love them to no end, but aside from the one golden year from "Hocus Pocus" to "Jungle" they have been inactive four out of the five years since they were ready to debut (and had to wait two years while Chung Ha was pulled out of the group and debuted as a soloist). "Venom" was a surprise and a very pleasant one and I HOPE MNH is preparing for another comeback to follow up, but with Chung Ha saying on stage she hates her company and wants to leave and BVNDIT not a big seller, I don't have a lot of confidence that the company (or BVNDIT) are going to survive.
2. Rocket Punch - they have everything they need to be successful: talented members, insane visuals, and some great title tracks and b-sides. They are a perfectly fine, mid-tier girl group - in a world dominated by massive promotional budgets and interesting lore, where just being a "perfectly fine" girl group isn't good enough. Aside from their Japanese activities, Woollim has not promoted Rocket Punch well at all. "Ring Ring" got good traction and set Rocket Punch up for greater success, but the company waited nine months for a comeback, which didn't do anything to grow the fan base. The group has no "identity" that makes them memorable or stands out like AESPA's virtual world or Purple Kiss' nerdy witches. They're "just another girl group", and halfway through their contracts without a first win or without breaking out of nugu status, I am very concerned that Woollim is close to writing them off.
3. PIXY - they had a dream of a first year, but two members leaving the group is never good. I hope that a new member joining and some time touring will allow the group to recover and be "Reborn", but I'm not confident.
4. LOONA - maybe counterintuitive, but this year should have been big LOONA's breakthrough year, with growing sales, Queendom 2 appearance, and a world tour. But the chaos related to the tour and uncertainty about Chuu's status with Blockberry Creative has left Loona Island in disarray. They need another successful comeback ASAP to smooth the waters, but they also need a long rest after this insanely-overscheduled year...
I love all these groups and sadly I have to agree... Bvndit even having a comeback at all was a surprise to me and I'm so worried about pixy after the recent developments
@@bvnditbul7039 After two years of hiatus, I thought BVNDIT were a dead group. I was proven wrong by "Venom", so I hope my concerns about all of these groups end up being baseless. Ella leaving PIXY was no surprise after she left Cherry Bullet - she'll never get another chance as an idol after bailing out of TWO groups. But Satbyeol leaving did surprise me and left me far more concerned, since we really don't know the circumstances (her health doesn't seem bad considering how active she is on Instagram post-departure). LOONA is a really weird case - if their contracts were set from the release of "Hi High" then they have three more years, but since all the members actually debuted earlier, Heejin's contract might date from the release of "ViViD" in 2016, leaving maybe just one more year on her contract (and Hyunjin, Haseul and Yeojin soon thereafter). If I were one of the members I would not have a lot of confidence or desire to renew my contract with Blockberry Creative these days…but i know the girls love being together, so…
@@Vektorix28205 RCPC is one of my ults and it breaks my heart to see they haven't really gained much popularity this year despite having 2 amazing comebacks and 2 japanese releases. The new groups that debut now are gaining popularity at an almost unbelievable speed, leaving all smaller, mid tier, let alone nugus in the dust more than ever. It's very sad, but also somewhat fun for a multistan.
@@iamdz4304 Yeah, the last couple of years have seen the big companies REALLY assert their marketing-driven dominance over the industry, particularly when it comes to girl groups. AESPA, IVE, Kep1er, Le Sserafim, Newjeans, NMIXX - all have debuted with sales over 250K - a level that in the past only experienced powerhouses like Blackpink or TWICE would achieve. Now there are so many of these mega-groups that they dominate promotions almost every week, making it much more difficult for smaller groups to get a music show win or even to grow sales. There's only so many fans and so many dollars (or Won) available, so when the big groups are sucking up all the attention, the small companies are just steamrolled. Hence the new groups from small companies that are succeeding are the ones that stand out, like Billlie. Rocket Punch has had two opportunities to embrace a sound that they could make their own - "Bouncy" had a brattiness that suited them very well, while "Ring Ring" - for a moment - made Rocket Punch the queens of retro Kpop. "Flash" is a good song, but a forgettable one, and Rocket Punch can not afford to be forgettable...
@@Vektorix28205 Another thing i've noticed is that eventhough these big groups are let's say taking most of the attention, overall the sales even for small groups have increased across the board, so do we take this as a positive or negative for smaller groups/agencies? I feel like this insane surge in popularity to the kpop genre in general attracts a lot more people to smaller groups who would have sold even under 1k albums in the past, sure, they won't get a music show win with 10k sales or anything, but small agencies might view it as worthwhile debuting mediocre groups with little to no budget behind them.
I really would like the the idea of success in kpop to be redefined. An artist or group can have a solid, consistent career without being wildly popular with million sales.
Exactly, album sales aren't true numbers (fans and staff buying albums by the case is nothing new in kpop) and YT viewed are also very much skewed by bots and people leaving the videos running 24/7. What international fans consider famous vs what is famous in SK is also very different (as the Melon chart showed, pretty sure more recent international fans didn't expect BigBang to be no1 / were like "Highlight? Never heard of them. Wtf are those unknown guys?").
Also some groups most likely DON'T want to be hyper famous with tens of millions of fans and just want to enjoy a smaller fanbase, chances to branch out in the entertainment industry and enough income to continue doing music.
Being around for 17 years is something AMAZING!! me as a SuJu fan.. I'm so proud of that.
Honestly at first I thought it is a hateful video but it turns out that it's just your opinions and thoughts! I really appreciate that and I enjoyed your video 💙
suju is never going to disband there's literally no reason for them to theyre popular and like being a group
Coming back just to say, Mamamoo announcing their world tour...it's crazy because moos always believe Mamamoo is much more than the music industry, because their love for music and entertainment and Mamamoo itself is stronger. They might take breaks, but they're always there for us in every stage of our lives.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 finallly a world tour
WORLD TOUR IS COMING SOON !!
I personally don't want Suju to disband
People always underestimate suju' s place in the entertainment industry. Like just check the list of TV shows Almost every trending variety Show have at least one of them as Main MC. Almost every end of the year big award ceremony have a suju member as MC. Each new album they release becomes the highest selling album in their career. (With each release they break older numbers)
Concerts tickets gets sold out in a couple of hours. (They are on their 9th world tour right now)
They branched everywhere in the industry (actors, MCs, MVs director, musical actors, concert directors, radio hosts..........) and beyond. They are not afraid to access new markets(they were the 1st to access many asian countries, Europe, latin America and arab countries...)
You clearly don’t understand how EXPENSIVE comebacks are. Of course smaller companies are gonna give their smaller groups less comebacks because producing songs in itself is a lot of money, not to mention the money going into the mv and promotions. You always say the companies just need to “do better” when you don’t fully understand what goes behind what you’re saying.
Also many comebacks a year is quite recent as a trend and really dangerous for the idol's well-being + is obviously a cash grab expecting fans to cough out cash everytime, it shouldn't be celebrated!! One or two comebacks a year + solos and other activities in between imo should be the norm. Let's bring back 2nd gen scheduling...
You said what I was thinking....shit like this annoys me when folks have no true concept of what a business and a company does... and no- the solution isn't for someone to leave and make their own label.
RBW is stupid. Last year during Where are we now and mumumumuch era they were trying to prove to investors that the company didn't depend on them. But the only thing to do is sabotaging their career. Moonbyul and Hwasa weren't really satisfied with their last comeback's managment. And I think that Hwasa will not renew their contract but not sure about Solar and Moon.
oh 100% on the ikon section. b.i was not just their producer, but the director of ikon's image through their music. we're getting a whole new ikon rn, so the shift in musical style and image is sort of all over the place. it's mainly between bobby's more hip-hop inspo and dk's more vocally-centric interests. i'm still surprised that there was absolutely 0 news of their contract on their last anniversary, but i guess it's bc the contract is longer than we thought. that being said, they're still popular in japan and southeast asia! they got #1 on the rakuten chart with their japanese single, your voice (dk wrote it) and charted on itunes in thailand, philippines, indonesia, etc. so uh, maybe that's why?
Mamamoo is a family. They could’ve disbanded if they wanted but they themselves have said many time they want to stick together as long as possible. Do you think that they would disband after all those harsh things that they went through not just being mistreated by their company but by other people in the industry. No they didn’t now everybody praises them but their company still mistreats them but that won’t let them get in the way of them being a group. They do this for their love of music and love for the fans not for money or fame. They started with zero fans and the company was broke and didn’t even give up then. Also I saw a comment that said something about Moonbyuls type of music. She chooses those type of songs she herself has said that she wants to try different types of genres and not stick with one. If you don’t like it then don’t listen to it. It’s that simple. Anyway go stream ‘Mic-on’ comes out October 11. Title track ‘ILLELLA’. Mamamoo Queens.
BlackSwan got rid of their only two Korean members and then said it was cause they “graduated” from the group. And plus, after the whole Fatou and Leia situation it’s really weird now. They added two new more members and in 5 days it’ll be 1 year since their last comeback. I’m just not sure what DRent is trying to do here
The company is just super ghetto lol 😆
@Bonk Their mistake was to keep adding and dropping people while trying to hold onto the original name of the group. They never moved on.
@BIG BUFF ANTI BIGOT BARNEY their speaking facts first mistake adding a black member I like fatou but she can go solo
@Bonk how is it any different than a group having a Chinese or Viet member? They may be asian but they aren’t korean and usually have to learn the language also. or is it just racism.
@Bonk not quite true,their first mistake was ONLY promoting the Black member,why not just make her a soloist and give her a chance.
This group has scandals to which they can't escape and the music is sub par IMO...
2nd mistake was the constant turn over of members..it's like a game of who is who or who will be left next week,not healthy in any business.
I mean I guess people forget about Shinhwa. Super Junior still being around isnt surprising
A lot of people don't know Shinhwa like they know Super Junior we all know how long they've been and the music industry since the 90s
Super Junior is one of the examples that being sucessful for a long time is able in Kpop. They build up a strong fandom
BlackSwan (RaNia) is truly unkillable
Well SuJu has his own label inside of SM so in a way the reason they do not disband is because they have their own team that allows them to keep going at their own rythm.
And they keep active in the entreteinment industry and still do good music so even of they do not trend they keep working, and I bet they are more valuable as SuJu than as individuals so they have managed to make it work.
Mamamoo and Dreamcatcher having comeback on the same day this 11th October
I agree with everyone except for Mamamoo. For me it was obvious that they won`t disband because their group chemistry is sooo good. I was sure that the members still want to do music together and it happend.
I’m happy that DAY6 renewed their contract. I was scared of losing them but they’re going to continue! I can’t imagine kpop without DAY6 and hope i will be able to go to their concert again one day.
SuJu is just part of why SME is actually a decent company compared to the others in the Big 3. They must be doing something right to have such a huge retention rate that even first gen idols are still under them (while plenty of companies are barely holding onto their third gen idols).
My opinion
1.Day6 should have just left the company. I mean Jae pretty much gave a clear Idea as to why. I mean it's clear as Sky right now that JYP is least bothered about Day6. they didn't promote their last 2 comebacks properly.
2. Momoland should have been under a different Management, but with the same people who made their sound. The management was just exploiting the members. Daisy and Yeonwoo were clear evidence of the company's mismanagement,
3. I wish B. I didn't have to receive so much hate. I mean the reaction from the public was so bad that they acted as if he killed someone. I mean I wish they calmed their ass down and think things from the group's perspective. I mean losing any member is a bad thing , but B.I here is the one who produced Ikon's entire discography until I DIVE. And him being the leader losing him would take even a more bad hit than what he did. I mean even after this whole fiasco B.I is the one doing well off now than Ikon. I mean They could have promoted them properly after kingdom , but they had to mess up even that.
4. I'm not that surprised that Mamamoo hasn't disbanded considering how successful they are and how much huge of a fanbase they have. even if they sign with different companies later i don't think they will disband.
I was so surprised when I saw Suju here, like nowadays ktubers channels rarely or never mention them but yeah even as an ELF myself and Suju was the group that got me into kpop it's so impressive the popularity they still have after 17 years of career, true is they might not get the number views, music show awards, etc but all the members are active in the entertainment industry, their latests comebacks and album sales are the best ones they have ever had and Suju even though all the hate they get nowadays (which is ridiculous is the most majority) , they are only 3 years appart to reach the 20 years mark in the industry and said by the members they will keep releasing music for 20 years more so yeah, they are on their way to be the most active kpop group ever only behind Shinhwa and TVXQ, we haven't got a TVXQ comeback since like 2019 and idk about Shinhwa but yeah, Suju still release music every single year and still have a huge international fanbase
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't shinwa leave sm. And resign or made their own company? Idk because I don't really follow them.
@@leabaden5935 they did! and they're considered the longest running boy group in kpop ^^ they're also debuting a sub-unit at the end of this year
@@em_miri yes the other tings I knew. But glad I got my Infos right. :)
@@leabaden5935 yeah they leave a long time ago but it's the most active kpop group but idk about their recently comebacks or anything else, I just know some members got married but in a musical way idk
TVXQ had a Japanese album this year (Epitaph) and it is really good.
RBW became worse with their promotions after the contract renewal and going public tbh. Before that it was bad, but not as bad as it is now. Moreover right now the major labels are pushing their newer groups like anything so RBW needed to step up their game to keep mamamoo relevant but they didn't do that.
I think most of the members renewed because they did not expect the company to sabotage them like it's being done now. You could see Moonbyul and Hwasa were clearly unhappy with how their solos were handled.
As to why RBW renewed them? It's simple. RBW needs mamamoo. They are still known as "Mamamoo's agency". As much as the company would love to deny, mmm is what's making them relevant. The moment the group disbands it'll be tough for RBW unless they are somehow able to push PK higher within next year
Moonbyul talked about how she was thinking about leaving for another company because RBW botched her Lunatic comeback. I'm a B by Hwasa and C.I.I.T by Moonbyul deserved a lot more attention.
i was an ikonic from 2017-2020. they were one of my ult groups alongside blackpink. i no longer stan them but i keep up with them here and there. i just wanted to say that while B.I was absolutely the brain behind 90% of their music, he wasn't the only producer/songwriter in the group. bobby is no slouch when it comes to producing, and has been credited as lyricist and composer on pretty much every track ikon have put out since 2020. they're also working with producers they've always worked with, such as choice37, millennium, and future bounce who are in-house YG producers. in general i think their music is just as good as it once was, but with the long hiatuses and zero public presence, they're just not doing as well. their management is letting them down big time. ikon will hopefully NOT renew with YG because i don't think YG is doing them any favours.
omg i agree but i feel like they’re renewing because (im an ikonic too) and i’ve been keeping up with their schedules and they have group activities planned out till december 2022 so far and this is their 7th year as a group (and apparently when their contract with yge will end) and the members have said they want to stay with each other for a long time. So there is a possibility that they renewed which i really wished they would leave yge while staying together as a group but there is no confirmation yet but its very likely that they renewed
Their latest album is not as good as the rest of their discography and I say this as an Ikonic
I think they already renew
@@kusanagisensei5987 uh
@@kusanagisensei5987 i think this is very subjective because as an ikonic i think their last mini album was very good! except gold bc gold feels more like a winner song. I think as donghyuk started producing for the group he knows the ikon sound very well and bobby’s dragon is probably my favourite ikon song. However, we dont have to agree on everything because as I have said music taste is completely subjective but since we are both ikonics we can look forward to their future releases! hope we get a cb soon!
Suju isn't surprising whatsoever. SM is KNOWN for not disbanding their groups, SUJU also have their own sub-label under SM, which manages all their solo activities and etc. SUJU are established members of Korean entertainment, whether it be variety TV, modelling, acting, releasing music.
Super Junior still being there is impressive.
They were supposed to be a rotational group and were modeled after both Morning Musume ( rotation ) and SMAP ( individually active in other roles besides singers ). They were known as Super Junior 05 because that was supposed to be the 2005 line-up only. Of course, they got popular and SM just made them a permanent group ( while also adding some members here and there ). After that, they were just known as Super Junior.
Them doing what they want to do while still wanting to have group comebacks every now and then IS impressive.
Personally, I am not surprised they are still active as a group.
If Blackswan is anything like Rania, and honestly they are just rania, but with a new name, they're not gonna disband any time soon.
Just gonna add members, have members leave, have members come back, leave again, and so on.
that's basically what they are doing. Their debut album was literally called 'Goodbye RaNia'
Still ikon is 🔥🔥💖 after all of this they are together .If you know about the ikon If you've ever heard their songs and know their history, you wouldn't said that✨♥️. This is an outstanding team that needs attention💖🙏💗.
i was scared i thought pentagon would be in this
a lot of people have been calling out pentagon flopped when e'dawn left and after the controversies they faced during shine era, they have one of the best discographies i ever seen in kpop and i hope they never disband and that someday they'll regain the popularity and streams shine had
For me personally I only noticed pentagon’s music after dawn left. Obviously I know shine and enjoyed it, I tried to check them out but I found that I preferred all of their comeback after dawn left (not saying dawn was a problem cuz he was great) I just preferred their recent comebacks and I get excited for upcoming ones.
As a fan of pentagon I do miss dawns voice in their tracks and I did kinda fall off after naught boy bc it felt like a knockoff shine but they still have a really solid discography and their more recent albums are so good
I am actually scared when next year rolls around when their contract run out. Will they extend it or because CUBE hasnt been the best in promoting them. They are so talented but I dont want them to be underrated anymore
@@tinamakombe5900 omg noooo awdklwddadw
@@tinamakombe5900 In my opinion Cube is only interested in (g)Idle and that's it and it's all about them and other groups in the company are left to rot in the dungeon
Please, Blackswan's story is so messy 😫 The fact that their debut album was titled "Goodbye Rania" and featured, FOR SOME REASON, a good bunch of Rania songs is so random and confusing? Their company literally promoted them as a rebranded Rania 😐And I don't understand why they thought that was a good idea? Giving Rania's history 😐
Also debuting them with a member whose contract was about to end like a few weeks after the debut 🧐 Then coming up with the great idea to add new members out of nowhere and realeasing two who were loved by the public?
Look, I know I'm no business man... but these people can't be in their right minds!
I think they got rid of those members because the foreign members are more popular. 🤔 that's my guess. Also because Leia had beef with them..I honestly hate her. She's the worst kind of idol. She gets on tiktok and talk crap about them
Day6 is the first one :(( damn but im grateful they’re still active today, they deserve so much better!
mamamoo is coming back with ILLELLA and this time around it feels like the company is trying. lets see what happens
It's nice to see older idols still be that active in the industry. It gives me hope that other groups will eventually do the same, especially now that we're seeing so many 2nd and early 3rd gen groups reunite and release music this year. Kpop is into its third decade at this point, so having active older idols helps put into perspective on how far back kpop's influence goes and the evolution of how we got here. Plus it helps normalize having actual adults in kpop and not minors.
As for SJ specifically, I don't like them as people per se, but I think folks kind of forget their legacy in kpop - they were one of the groups that helped revive the popularity of boy groups in the mid-2000s and were one of the first groups to go viral on TH-cam. They were also one of the first to develop a huge following in Latin America, where kpop first started expanding outside of Asia. I know people make a lot of jokes about them disbanding, but it looks like they're not going anywhere. Their music is good and it's nice to have more "legacy" idol groups in the industry.
Super Junior are the Arashi of South Korea lol
Disbanding MOMOLAND will be downright disrespectful and stupid.
They are the breadwinners and literally the reason that company is still standing to this day.
Just give them good music. Bring them to Brave Brothers or Sweetune, I don't know. It's not that hard. Even smaller groups with no money can have great songs these days.
I'm surprised to see Super Junior on here because they are an extremely popular group even after so many years of being in the industry age ain't got nothing to do with music as long as your music is good and selling you can go as long as you want. Look at Paul McCartney he's been doing music since the Beatles and still going and making hit records that's why he's a multi-billionaire. Super junior is still going because they're fan base is too big to let them go and it's true SM Entertainment don't disband groups they make too much money off them
Mamamoo is my ult and I totally agree lmao, I can't wait for them to ESCAPE from that trashy company and DO NOT GIVE THEM ANOTHER CHANCE, so glad Wheein could see through their empty promises.
I'm not scared of them disbanding anytime soon, I know their bond and their passion for music and performing so leaving RBW will just be the end of a chapter, but they still have a lot to offer and I know they'll be here for us for a long while
In other news, MAMAMOO is having a GROUP COMEBACK next Tuesday on October 11th with the song "ILLELLA" and the mini album "MIC ON", please check it out 💕
Mamamoo is such a nice groups and voices is so good, they can't even lip-sync. Hwasa is a queen and Solar, Moonbyul , Wheein is bright artist they are not lucky with the company as other artist under it.
Promo time
Mamamoo comeback on Oct. 11, 2022!
Their teasers are in their official channel and it's been looking great 🖤
1. I love day6 but they need more comebacks. Jyp, more day6.
2. Haven't heard much about this group in a while. They keep losing members. My personal opinion is to disband or do what dreamcatcher did. More likely disband.
3. Ikon...yeah. Yg has Treasure now which seems to be the similar in a way. I have a strong feeling yg keeps ikon around because maybe BI still writes for yg behind the scenes?? But also, YG is KNOWN for 1 comeback in like 2 years. Except for blackpink, the dungeon situation still seems to be in effect for everyone else.
4. Black swan. I don't really listen to them much. If they are successful, great. But I haven't heard much recently. Kind of just a "there" group.
(Simon cowell voice) Disband!
5. Who? I'm sorry I haven't heard of them much. I'm sure they are great though...New music? :)
6. They need new music. Right now they have been doing a lot of solo stuff. I've seen them on guest shows or people doing covers of their songs. I can see them having more success.
7. Super junior. The Arashi of Korea. Those men age like fine wine. (Chef's kiss)
I think they will just continue making music, even if it isn't always topping the charts.
And here I am think about TH-cam channels not getting deleted yet
I am a Groo and the lack of content is killing me 😭 We don't get enough music, stages, merch or ANYTHING.
super junior is invincible
I don't stan Day6 but I do enjoy some of their music. Songs like Sweet Chaos, I wait, I smile are exceptionnal to me. So the fact they renewed makes me wanna pay more attention to their future comebacks.
You should take a listen to ALL their music you won’t be disappointed 😩
I don't know about the other groups, but I know that Day6 is REALLY popular in South Korea. Non in the kpop industry, but in the general public. And as far as I know, Bobby writes Ikon's songs
Super Junior presences in the entertainment industry in Korea is HUGE. They host many shows, are Judges or Mentors in competition shows, MC awards and festivals, Start in dramas and musicals. I myself cannot keep up with their activities cuz is too much.