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Winchestah Is not modern psychology another form of dogmatic thinking? Freudian ideas such as the ego, id and superego.. The unconscious, all very difficult to prove isn't it? Because you check 4 out of 10 items for a depression checklist, you have a mental illness.
Every time I watch these videos detailing Jung's ideas, I find myself thinking "Exactly!" The man perfectly articulates thoughts that have long held a presence in the back of the my mind but I have have never quite consciously expressed.
Tony Randall Jung and Freud are not modern year psychology, you are correct in my opinion a lot of psychology is unfalsifiable, which doesn’t necessarily make it useless I would contend.
I am currently reading Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious. It's a very unsettling book to say the least. It's causing me to question my religious beliefs and my self-concept. I guess I since I'm on the rollercoaster already there's no choice but to stay for the ride. I am anxious to see what comes out of this for me. Jung is not for the faint of heart.
ladynottingham89 leave behind organized religions and welcome your own spirituality... I mean your own representation of yourself and your relation with the world ("the other").... A genuine and authentic representation of your own psyche.
I have started reading this book aswell with the intent not to soly analyze it as a piece of academia but with the intention to actually experience what Jung is referring to. This has taken me into "synchronistic" experiences that are threatening to break the very fabric of my sanity. Those moments of clarity speak out to you, atleast they did to me and they've brought me back to my "soul" so to speak or the "self". I think that's what it is anyway.. It's an energy that feels in one sense like my full potential and in the other like God watching over me. It shines forth my perception with colors and emotions again.. But also with a deep responsiblity to bear and I am still struggling integrating that into reality. The vision is there, the path is there, but something is holding me back.. Something dark and deep.. Something sinister. This book has reassured me that they have all went to that same place.. the mystics refered to like Nicholas Von Flue and Philo Judias along with the alchemists, the existiantialists like Nietchze and Kierkegaard , Doestevisky Solzhenitsyn , The poets like Simonides, and Alghari. I have so much more I want to learn and understand, but I also have a life to live outside of all this. I want to integrate it all but no one but my closes circle will understand the complexity of this.. anyway, goodluck on your path my friend. You are not alone.
ladynottingham89 I grew up in a Christian house-hold where my father was a Dove Award winning gospel music songwriter who moved us to Nashville to make it in The Christian music biz and on his side my family is very Irish Catholic so my identity was completely saturated in the BIGGEST LIE as I call it now and I had that set of beliefs rattled out of their cage so to speak a year or so ago and I am Confidently, Diametrically Opposed to what usurpers and charlatans have done with the wisdom they twisted into what I was told since birth was the truth. Trust in your instincts and steel yourself against the backlash of your de-programming because I am well aware of the unsettling nature of of shifting from such deeply ingrained dogma and the best thing you can do is press forward on whatever path the INFORMATION WHICH RESONATES WITH YOU takes you and you will be surprised at how the pangs of guilt and fear of the unknown will dissipate..
Jung is fundamentally wrong. His collective unconscious is false. The archetypes are not intrinsic to the psyche, but an extrinsic ideology, we've been imprinted with. it's like, everybody knows who Batman is. In Europe or America. Not in the jungles of the Amazon! So, the quetzalcoatl in South America and the ibis in Egypt, the peacock in Iran and the virgin mary in France, all share the same archetype, yet they are different.
What seems to me the most amazing thing about Carl Jung is that he never lost himself in his persona unlike so many other psychologists and philosophers have done.
He had a mental and nervous breakdown that he almost never came out of. The Russian Jew he once treated as a hysterical patient and transformed into a pediatric psychologist in her own right was the only one able to help him after a couple of years of suffering. He thought a spirit called Philemon was following him around.
Thank you for doing what you're doing. I'm sure the amount of time and effort that goes into these is substantial, but I hope that knowing there are people out there who look forward to every new video makes it worth it
I wish I knew you. You've inspired a lot of people, myself included, with your comprehensive summaries of important philosophical insights. It'd be great to see where you end up, no doubt you'll do well. You deserve it
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I've found Jung's ideas very therapeutic. It is very interesting to analyze my dreams in search for what my unconscious is trying to communicate. The tough and rewarding parts come when you implement action in response to that analysis
@@sterbprepper4798 ha soooo true. With Jungs psychosis we end up with Redbook and someone who navigates the psychosis, nietzche just gets bat shiat stupid lost like someone overdosing on magic Mushrooms...lost. Nietzche
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Dude you've seriously been blowing my mind with these Jung videos, I am so grateful because I never was able to fully understand or knew where to start when it comes to Jung, but these videos are insanely helpful, and deeply insightful. Thank you Academy of Ideas!
Your videos are well done. I like how you incorporate quotations from the primary text. I recommend these videos to my philosophy students. Keep up the great work!
At the part of the video that talked about completion (2:26) I thought about a passage from the book Mastery of Fate by Christian D Larson, Making The Ideal Real: "The ideal of yourself is you; you are the ideal side of yourself; the actual or external side of yourself is only a partial expression of the ideal or true self. The ideal side of man is the complete side; and the complete side is you. You are not the incomplete side, because if you were there would be no source for anything in your being; not even the incomplete or external side would have a source, and consequently could not exist. Incompleteness cannot come from incompleteness, because an incompleteness is a partial effect of a complete cause. Incompleteness can come only from completeness; therefore, the fact that the personal self is incomplete proves that it comes from a self that is complete; and since you, yourself, cannot be complete and incomplete at the same time, you, yourself, must be the complete self, while the personal self is but a partial expression of the completeness that exists in you. When you see this clearly, you will know that you are already ideal; that is, complete, and in possession of unlimited possibilities; and when you know that you are ideal, you will think of yourself as ideal. You will impress the ideal, and the greater possibilities upon mind, and your thoughts will not only be ideal, but will contain the power of the greater possibilities. This power will be expressed in the personal self, because the power of every thought is expressed in the personal self; consequently, the personal self will become larger, greater and more perfect, constantly making real the ideal." In my opinion, a literal example of the incompleteness-that-comes-from-completeness would be the gametes (egg and sperm)
Agree with joysdepraved. You can listen the audio, but a mayor thing here are the quotes, they play a big role in this videos, those are moments to really pay atention. A lot of information to be decompressed there. I recommend you to go for a personality class from Jordan Peterson about Jung, it may be longer but better prepared to asimilate, he takes time to decompress the content, and he is a hell of an educator. 2015 (Here the class is focused on the theory mostly, except for the Pinoccio example) Part 1: th-cam.com/video/DC0faZiBcG0/w-d-xo.html Part 2: th-cam.com/video/CFHZyse4VGw/w-d-xo.html 2017 (Here he uses The Lion King mostly as an example) Part 1: th-cam.com/video/3iLiKMUiyTI/w-d-xo.html Part 2: th-cam.com/video/X6pbJTqv2hw/w-d-xo.html
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I need some help dissecting the following Jung statement: "It is a most painful procedure to tear off those veils, but each step forward in psychological development means just that, the tearing off of a new veil. We are like onions with many skins, and we have to peel ourselves again and again in order to get at the real core." Artificial and unfitting personas do seem real to me, and the shedding of them productive. But is there a distinct line between search of the "real core" self and the sculpting/deployment of persona? Can one individuate through positive personas building, or perhaps is it more of small careful extensions and integrations of positive traits that prove more authentic? Ultimately, his reference of the real core is puzzling to me as I'm uncertain as to what exactly he means. If someone is versed into what Mr. Carl was particularly getting at I'd greatly appreciate the assistance.
infinite loop I think what makes the idea of the “real core” so hard for us to grasp is the fact that very, very few people ever get to uncover it, or as mentioned in the video, so many of us never even become aware we have a “world within”. As he notes, getting to or real core “is a most painful procedure”. The line between searching for that authentic core and the sculpting of the persona is distinct and at complete separate ends of the spectrum. The development of the facade that we wear is for survival.. for us to be able to get by in the world, in the society around us, which is governed by whatever social norms we happen to find ourselves entrenched in. So the idea of trying to find our way to our core through positive persona building goes against the idea of the statement... What is “positive”? If we’re trying to be selective in how we develop the persona, what guidelines are we adhering to? The persona we develop will always be governed by whatever it is we perceive as necessary to be as successful a persona as possible in the world. In the same way.. what is “authentic”? If we take it as fact that most of us start developing our persona from a time before we can remember (which is what Jung implies), then most of us, at least, have no reference point to go off when considering what “authentic” means in relation to our core. We’ve never experienced it before, or have only experienced slivers, perhaps... and even then we weren’t aware of it! The process can only be achieved through abandonment of everything that makes up our persona, bit by bit.. and that really is fucking painful. So many aspects of our conditioning or persona-building are so heavily ingrained that we just aren’t aware of them. Think of a child that takes a toy from another child and is reprimanded for it. The kid will kick and scream and rebel and over time will adopt a behaviour that adheres to what’s expected of him in the world, while at the same time losing touch with an element of his core which may have compelled him to want to take the toy in the first place. Who knows what that aspect of his psyche would have been? But him taking a toy definitely isn’t seen as “positive”, but in so conditioning him he moves further away from his psyche’s true expression. I feel that is a terrible example, sorry, and may miss the mark altogether.. but what I’m trying to say is some things are so heavily rooted. For instance, how difficult is it for men to separate themselves from the commonly held idea of what it is to be a man? That shit runs deep and ultimately only obscures us from ourselves. As to how we do search for our real core... well, I’m just as clueless as the next person, haha. I know there are an unfathomable amount of layers for me to peel away yet, but I’ve discarded quite a few already and that’s been rough af... the toughest journey I’ve ever been on. It’s like at the midway point of the video he mentions people’s individuation processes can develop in a way that’s “unconducive to mental health”. The other reason it’s so hard to imagine the nature of our real core is because it’s not definable... as mentioned, there can only be an interpretation. Each person’s realized core is as unique as their fingerprint. Much in the same way Buddha doesn’t actually define what enlightenment is... it’s simply “the end of suffering”. What does the “end of suffering” look and feel like? You can’t know until you actually reach it, and that’s the point. Sorry to babble on. Think your question acted as a prompt for me to process things I need to process. Would love to hear others’ insights too. I’m only at the very beginning of diving into Jung.. it’s so daunting.
This man believed in the spiritual world as told by religions and myths but that they exists in our minds, not as fantasies however but as realities. Mind blowing.
Keep up the good work guys (not that you need to hear it). The videos you guys make on the different great thinkers and ideas have made a great positive impact on how I view my life and existence. I appreciate it 👍
God never asks for something impossible and ever since I'm a Christian, looking for "perfection" I had achieved many important goals ,spiritual and material goals,so, the idea of "perfection" has always helped me to give the best of myself and get everything I want.
Oh no, not mastery.... it's integration, understanding, becoming whole... I think mastery has much to much of a sense of war and conquering in it. It's nothing like that.
Jung's Liber Novus was an elegant and subtle way of describing his own deep dive into unconscious, delivered as a fascinating artistic book. He is very similar to Robert Anton Wilson in that way, where RAW described his experiments in his Cosmic Trigger I book, (and called it ceremonial ritual magic), Jung called the same techniques Active imagination that was triggered through Depth Psychology. But they all are a modern continuation of the shamanistic traditions like found in Eleusinian Mysteries and Mystery Cults all over the world in general.
so i must write about my dreams and analyse then, and to start my individuation, i must not identify myself with the persona, thats it is the way i present myself to others, but how i identify that persona what way i know it is because i thing its so rooted in me that i can tell the diference anymore about me and the persona.
That's like saying you are more of an artist than art critic! Where the artist exists independent of the critic the critic has zero existence without the artist. Freud practiced astrology of the psyche he is an idiot just like my theology professors! Although very kind idiots they were where although I am not so sure about Freud!
Philosophy, religion, and physics pushed to their limit yields nothing more or less than pure mystery. Nevertheless, we can have endless fun weaving our tentative theories..
Jung compared to Freud is basically the Genious who was born later. And, is also very important to note that: Being less rigid, he added a lot to his Master's work regarding the Life of the Soul independently of food, sex, parents... Thank you. Great job.
Peel and peel towards a completeness that will never come . . . decisive motivations to bring upon a whole of premise to overcome the whole . . . *individuation - mapping the flaw of the wheel. Reason spreading like a flurry of dignification. How the answer to the question - how interests spark a completeness to welcome something new. The ploy shall move in a gravy of its own coalescing.
This is by far one of the best channels i ever watched on TH-cam, but man there's a lack of Saint Thomas Aquinas and S. Agostin right here 1:30. Far too much Nietzsche far too little Louis Lavelle.
So: 'Greater personality'; 'Darkness'; 'Scope and Insight'; 'Being above'; 'Real core'. These are the jungean definitions of individuation, but basically there is no definition, excluding Aniela Jaffé's - an interpretation. This so called process is rather undefined, and the 'core' of personality means pretty much whatever you feel like having for supper. Is there any real definition in this study, or in this matter, or are we merely applying astrology's methodology of allusion and intuitive thinking?
Serious question: I've been going down that path for a while and I'm not sure I'm understanding stripping of the ego. I fear I may have become apathetic. Since you stripe certain parts of yourself away to get to a deep place in the psyche.
I recommend you read The Archetypes of the Collective Unconcious. It has a part two: Aion which I recommend you follow with. You can also incorporate Alchemical Studies as a mediator between the two if you really wanted a full grasp on the content.
Mars Most thank you, ill do just that. I have to admit that the portion on alchemy in dreams had me stumped. So maybe reading the latter will illuminate the subject.
oscar zafra You're welcome. I hear you on that too.. What may help is to interpret the matter that the alchemists were talking about as energy. I may be wrong, but as far as I can tell that energy is akin to the "idea" "emotion" "spirit". When the psyche seperates itself from its totality so to speak, or that union of self, the individual is then vulnerable to ideological possession, demon possession, brainwashing whatever you want to call it. It's something like "worshipping false gods". So how can one transform those energies, or integrate those opposites? I don't know enough to be sure.. I think I heard Peterson bring up that the alchemical transmutation is the burning of the spirit for the renewal of the diamond body. A rebirth or redemption. That's the individuation process to the Self aswell. It's an idea you can't just read.. I mean you can, but to truly grasp it's heights and depths you have to take a leap of faith and experience it. Just be careful how far you go if you consider doing that.
(You do this by telling the Truth to yourself at all times. Once you are up to date, I recommend you follow Petersons current battle with Post-modernism and the implications of his lectures on our society today and the growing chaos that's brewing.
As someone who is a big fan of Jordan Peterson, primarily for his expansive and intelligent use of words, your videos are extremely helpful in developing a strong and rich vocabulary, which help me share my thoughts and ideas with others. Much love
What practical methods in learning attention to individuation one can learn ? Arts, such plastic arts (drawing and others), dramatic arts such theater technics and performances ? there is other more ritualistic linked to day-to-day ? Individuation seemed to me a very abstract notion on getting grasp of concious self process, but too much abstract a concept ... i would need concrete things to work with. Thank you !
I've been peeling the layors of myself for couple years but, if the process of individualization is removing what you are, how then can you know who you are? That's the problem I'm in rn, idk who I am; I'm so open to possibilities I don't see the reality - in the world/people and myself
I think a common theme with modern philosophy is an intrigue and acceptance of Freud and then a rejection-rebuilding of what is taken away from his work
You said some people grow up failing to recognise they wear their persona as if it is actually them, and that anyone can admit anything in order to tear of a veil. How does one possible know when they are killing potential parts of them self that are directly associated with who they are as a character or if they are actually a required part of yourself to die in order to succeed true individuation?
They need to teach this stuff in Recovery Groups rather than drown it out or water it down with concepts of a god being outside somewhere along with other disempowering ideas such as picking up personas to be socially acceptable to societal "norms"
ky, chill! just sit alone ,close your eyes, say om, let the oxygen in/out of you body. Forget you are ky, forget all, enjoy emptiness,touch that which you came from & eventually will return to- infinity bliss. DO THAT EVERYDAY FOR A FEW MINUTES, IT is HEALING AND TAKES YOU TO YOUR REAL SELF. have fun!
Ky’Naisha Start with being honest about what you are as a person. Not forgetting what Jung would call The Shadow- the bits we hide because we, or society don’t like them. Personality is just a mask. Who are you under that? How much of you is in response to what your parents want/ don’t want? etching
What I find interestingly misleading is Jung's impression of why most people know little of the world within. I agree on what concerns our Christian heritage and the believe in the "christian" concept of an "omniscient" God, but I find it misleading if it doesn't separate the fact that christian belief is a modification of Judaism ( which Jung never mentions as he always refers to "christianity") There is a huge difference; in Judaism God may be omniscent, but contrary to the Christian "concepts" of God ( protestants have a slightly different approach to catholics in what concern doctrine) the individual plays a dramatic and massive role in individuation through out the Torah or so called "old testament" which Christians replaced with a "new message" with the Gospel.The torah tells us "Abraham was one man" , Isaiah 51:2, a man called to leave his family and find his own destiny and this is perpetuated through the Torah, with Joseph, Moses, and so forth. Christianity changed the game when they "created" a short cut to the inner journey by creating a doctrine that promises salvation based on one's acceptance of Jesus alone. The doctrine eliminates the individual's call as a "personal destiny", or personal journey, by pretending that the individual finds sanctuary in the church, through confession and communion, the church in that sense becoming the new state that denies the individual. While people congregate in churches promoting their lack of individuality, they do not need to question themselves about a world within, because Jesus has already " paid" the dues of their journey if any. However, the Ominiscent God is not the problem, as Jung claims, but the problem dwells in the lack of intimate relation with the "god -within" found through the call of the individual and as it is poetically stated through the Jewish doctrine.
Interesting. I read somewhere that in the later satges of his life, Jung became increasingly interested by kabbalistic symbols. He just never delved into judaism as much because he didn't know hebrew, but he knew latin and greek... If you google: Jung and the kabbalah, you will find a long essay given to the american psychological association by sanford L grob. I think it will be of interest to you!
In the Undiscovered Self Jung seems more concerned with individuation being subverted by an incomplete identity of Statistical Rational chunking. It's important for creative people to integrate the rational part of their identity and use 0bejctive tools but the push of an idealistic conception of being is very concerning.
Very well said. I think it is just a product of their times.. Jordan Peterson with his modern day leanings and calling himself a Christian, is a real fish out of water even though he is only highlighting many ideas in the past, refreshing to see anyway.. I prefer more uplifting kinds of psychological thinking (positive, humanist or existential psychology) and what I realise with that is I'm looking for something spiritual, but religion doesn't cut it for me, religion may be an opiate for the masses in good and bad, but honestly it is akin to holding back the tide with a broom. Imagine that Christianity or Islam conquered the world, everyone unified under the same belief structure, peace on Earth etc. How long would it take for some new form of sectarianism to begin? I imagine it would begin on the first day of said peace, even before it. Such is the war between individuation and collectivism, on and on it goes.. The biggest threat to God's children, is each other.. Or so we think. But even if I didn't think, well that is no guarantee the man next to me isn't plotting me or someone else's downfall, so do I do nothing, or pray? lol..
Tony Randall If you haven't read Jacque Ellul or Paul Virilio I recommend them. I also write short stories if you would like to read one I'm working on lemme know.
I suggest you may be confusing what the church calls ‘sins’ with the unconscious bits of the psyche. Not at all the same. Jung nowhere starts from original sin. We are all human with it’s weaknesses. Jungian analysis is done alone with the analyst. No Christian church- (apart from the Gnostics) supports individual work on The Self. So you either go for a load of laid down laws Or you bravely take your lone journey which is unique to you. That doesn’t mean you let the ego run rampant. Church doctrine controls the ego. Jungian analysis encourages the freedom to discover the whole Psyche- even the broken off but called The Shadow. ‘Sin’ in the original Aramaic language that Jesus spoke, simply meant ‘to miss the mark’ The connotations of guilt were added by Judaism and Christianity.
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There seems to be a big return to Jungian ideas in the past few years. Its exciting to see.
Winchestah Is not modern psychology another form of dogmatic thinking? Freudian ideas such as the ego, id and superego.. The unconscious, all very difficult to prove isn't it? Because you check 4 out of 10 items for a depression checklist, you have a mental illness.
Every time I watch these videos detailing Jung's ideas, I find myself thinking "Exactly!" The man perfectly articulates thoughts that have long held a presence in the back of the my mind but I have have never quite consciously expressed.
Tony Randall Jung and Freud are not modern year psychology, you are correct in my opinion a lot of psychology is unfalsifiable, which doesn’t necessarily make it useless I would contend.
By big do you mean Peterson and this guy?
maybe its because that freak doesn't stop talking about him, you know, jordan peterson.
I am currently reading Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious. It's a very unsettling book to say the least. It's causing me to question my religious beliefs and my self-concept. I guess I since I'm on the rollercoaster already there's no choice but to stay for the ride. I am anxious to see what comes out of this for me. Jung is not for the faint of heart.
ladynottingham89 leave behind organized religions and welcome your own spirituality... I mean your own representation of yourself and your relation with the world ("the other").... A genuine and authentic representation of your own psyche.
I have started reading this book aswell with the intent not to soly analyze it as a piece of academia but with the intention to actually experience what Jung is referring to. This has taken me into "synchronistic" experiences that are threatening to break the very fabric of my sanity. Those moments of clarity speak out to you, atleast they did to me and they've brought me back to my "soul" so to speak or the "self". I think that's what it is anyway.. It's an energy that feels in one sense like my full potential and in the other like God watching over me. It shines forth my perception with colors and emotions again.. But also with a deep responsiblity to bear and I am still struggling integrating that into reality. The vision is there, the path is there, but something is holding me back.. Something dark and deep.. Something sinister. This book has reassured me that they have all went to that same place.. the mystics refered to like Nicholas Von Flue and Philo Judias along with the alchemists, the existiantialists like Nietchze and Kierkegaard , Doestevisky Solzhenitsyn , The poets like Simonides, and Alghari. I have so much more I want to learn and understand, but I also have a life to live outside of all this. I want to integrate it all but no one but my closes circle will understand the complexity of this.. anyway, goodluck on your path my friend. You are not alone.
ladynottingham89 I grew up in a Christian house-hold where my father was a Dove Award winning gospel music songwriter who moved us to Nashville to make it in The Christian music biz and on his side my family is very Irish Catholic so my identity was completely saturated in the BIGGEST LIE as I call it now and I had that set of beliefs rattled out of their cage so to speak a year or so ago and I am Confidently, Diametrically Opposed to what usurpers and charlatans have done with the wisdom they twisted into what I was told since birth was the truth. Trust in your instincts and steel yourself against the backlash of your de-programming because I am well aware of the unsettling nature of of shifting from such deeply ingrained dogma and the best thing you can do is press forward on whatever path the INFORMATION WHICH RESONATES WITH YOU takes you and you will be surprised at how the pangs of guilt and fear of the unknown will dissipate..
Jung is fundamentally wrong. His collective unconscious is false. The archetypes are not intrinsic to the psyche, but an extrinsic ideology, we've been imprinted with.
it's like, everybody knows who Batman is. In Europe or America. Not in the jungles of the Amazon!
So, the quetzalcoatl in South America and the ibis in Egypt, the peacock in Iran and the virgin mary in France, all share the same archetype, yet they are different.
criztu i agree he is giving objective reality to concepts like plato.
These videos are gold
Agree 110%. Among my favorite of all internet content
Hard to find a channel that consistently puts out good content
Years later, and it’s still consistent.
What seems to me the most amazing thing about Carl Jung is that he never lost himself in his persona unlike so many other psychologists and philosophers have done.
can u elaborate?
Yes he did. Read his red book.
He had a mental and nervous breakdown that he almost never came out of. The Russian Jew he once treated as a hysterical patient and transformed into a pediatric psychologist in her own right was the only one able to help him after a couple of years of suffering. He thought a spirit called Philemon was following him around.
Thank you for doing what you're doing. I'm sure the amount of time and effort that goes into these is substantial, but I hope that knowing there are people out there who look forward to every new video makes it worth it
Jung was well ahead of his time, even now Jung teachings still hit you where it hurts, as that’s where we learn the most!
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to light again ...
He was devoured by a whale.
@@iemon7722not the Moby Dick self-annihilation wale?
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I've found Jung's ideas very therapeutic. It is very interesting to analyze my dreams in search for what my unconscious is trying to communicate. The tough and rewarding parts come when you implement action in response to that analysis
Do you mind giving an example of implementing action in response to the analysis?
"All psychology so far has got stuck in moral prejudices and fears; it has not dared to descend into the depths." - F. Nietzsche
Nietzsche was a loser virgin loner anyway..
And Dostoevsky was the best psychologist
@@sterbprepper4798 quite a thing for someone to say who hasn't even read his work.
@@sterbprepper4798 ha soooo true. With Jungs psychosis we end up with Redbook and someone who navigates the psychosis, nietzche just gets bat shiat stupid lost like someone overdosing on magic Mushrooms...lost.
Nietzche
lol "so far" Jung must have been like "imma make this guy proud of psychology"
"Ogres are like onions" - Carl Jung
lol
Didn't expect to find quotes from shrek in this video neither
You sir are a genius
thought the same thing lol
I am the onion
I'm starting to regret picking law over psychology. The way your videos integrate information so coherently has evoked in me a great interest towards this field. THANK YOU.
I love how this guy gives you more and more concepts to ponder on. Love your channel. I love you for existing.
Having gone through this stuff years ago... I'm so thankful you are spreading the message for those who have ears for it.
Louis Revel how has it affected your life over the years?
This quality of this channel never fails to blow me away
can we agree that german philosophers were as revolutionary as greek philosophers?
Agreed
Jung was Swiss, not german.
@@aadambandaisha5723 Jung lived in the German-speaking part of Switzerland. Swiss German is a distinct dialect, but it is German.
@@far-away-so-close4540 Yeah he was technically German speaking, but he was not German, I think that is what he was saying.
@@floflo2514 correct
I love the images you use in your videos. Thanks again for taking the time to do all of this!
Dude you've seriously been blowing my mind with these Jung videos, I am so grateful because I never was able to fully understand or knew where to start when it comes to Jung, but these videos are insanely helpful, and deeply insightful. Thank you Academy of Ideas!
Your videos are well done. I like how you incorporate quotations from the primary text. I recommend these videos to my philosophy students. Keep up the great work!
Huge help overall, yet that bit about perfectionism was mindblowing. Love your work. Much appreciated.
This channel is an amalgamation of all the obfuscated fragments of wisdom slowly accumulated from other sources. Amazing videos
At the part of the video that talked about completion (2:26) I thought about a passage from the book Mastery of Fate by Christian D Larson, Making The Ideal Real:
"The ideal of yourself is you; you are the ideal side of yourself; the actual or external side of yourself is only a partial expression of the ideal or true self. The ideal side of man is the complete side; and the complete side is you. You are not the incomplete side, because if you were there would be no source for anything in your being; not even the incomplete or external side would have a source, and consequently could not exist.
Incompleteness cannot come from incompleteness, because an incompleteness is a partial effect of a complete cause. Incompleteness can come only from completeness; therefore, the fact that the personal self is incomplete proves that it comes from a self that is complete; and since you, yourself, cannot be complete and incomplete at the same time, you, yourself, must be the complete self, while the personal self is but a partial expression of the completeness that exists in you.
When you see this clearly, you will know that you are already ideal; that is, complete, and in possession of unlimited possibilities; and when you know that you are ideal, you will think of yourself as ideal. You will impress the ideal, and the greater possibilities upon mind, and your thoughts will not only be ideal, but will contain the power of the greater possibilities. This power will be expressed in the personal self, because the power of every thought is expressed in the personal self; consequently, the personal self will become larger, greater and more perfect, constantly making real the ideal."
In my opinion, a literal example of the incompleteness-that-comes-from-completeness would be the gametes (egg and sperm)
Now I can go to the gym knowing I have something to listen to while I workout. Thank you!
Maybe not the best idea...
Why not?
Glad I'm not the only one.
Agree with joysdepraved. You can listen the audio, but a mayor thing here are the quotes, they play a big role in this videos, those are moments to really pay atention. A lot of information to be decompressed there. I recommend you to go for a personality class from Jordan Peterson about Jung, it may be longer but better prepared to asimilate, he takes time to decompress the content, and he is a hell of an educator.
2015 (Here the class is focused on the theory mostly, except for the Pinoccio example)
Part 1: th-cam.com/video/DC0faZiBcG0/w-d-xo.html
Part 2: th-cam.com/video/CFHZyse4VGw/w-d-xo.html
2017 (Here he uses The Lion King mostly as an example)
Part 1: th-cam.com/video/3iLiKMUiyTI/w-d-xo.html
Part 2: th-cam.com/video/X6pbJTqv2hw/w-d-xo.html
Es reconfortante ver qué hay personas, realizando trabajos tan estupendos y engradecedores.Muchas Gracias
Every instant what you are saying in every word of all your videos, these are a must, I am happy you made them. Magic messages!
Dude, you have a seriously impressive reading list!
Ikr I can't imagine the research that goes into these videos and we get this all for free
Returning to that channel after 3 years & yet again witnessing the overwhelming accuracy of content.
Wow... This video is a masterpiece! Amazing work and research, and thoroughly explained.
these videos make me feel less alone and less overwhelmed
Thank you Academy of Ideas! Please upload every week! I need the knowledge you give me in my life!
The depth and breadth of Jungs investigation is a hundred years later unmatched.
Dreams are effected by the emotional state..the more unstable the more vivid and chaotic.
Thanks bucko
And that's THAT (roughly speaking)
Clean it up, Sunshine
And thats NO JOKE!
I see we have some top lobsters in the comments
They're father-saving lobsters, fresh from the belly of the beast!
These videos are so good. I often do re-runs... I don't know how many times I've seen this whole channel playlist...
Congratulations for this truly beautiful video with excellent content and well-chosen images. Carl Jung would definitely be proud of your work!
I don't usually like posts on youtube merely because of my high skepticism and laziness.Your channel is the one that I end up giving a thumbs up the most.At the end of almost all of your videos my mind goes ``I think this one is my new favourite`` , yet I do not know which one is my true favourite. Thank you for taking the time to put out somewhat comprehensive content without losing any of the deepness attached to the subject . Keep it up!
This channel changed my life... Thankyou.
All these ideas that come to me, on my own, most of them are quite similar to the content of the videos that you make. I know I am on the right path.
I love the art interspersed with the quotes. Thanks!🙋🏼♀️
I'm high and I'm getting an "AHAH!" moment every sentence. wow. Can't wait to express my truest colors and intentions upon this world.
Iggy Now so, more than ever. Go disturb peoples reality.
I need some help dissecting the following Jung statement:
"It is a most painful procedure to tear off those veils, but each step forward in psychological development means just that, the tearing off of a new veil. We are like onions with many skins, and we have to peel ourselves again and again in order to get at the real core."
Artificial and unfitting personas do seem real to me, and the shedding of them productive. But is there a distinct line between search of the "real core" self and the sculpting/deployment of persona? Can one individuate through positive personas building, or perhaps is it more of small careful extensions and integrations of positive traits that prove more authentic? Ultimately, his reference of the real core is puzzling to me as I'm uncertain as to what exactly he means. If someone is versed into what Mr. Carl was particularly getting at I'd greatly appreciate the assistance.
infinite loop I think what makes the idea of the “real core” so hard for us to grasp is the fact that very, very few people ever get to uncover it, or as mentioned in the video, so many of us never even become aware we have a “world within”. As he notes, getting to or real core “is a most painful procedure”. The line between searching for that authentic core and the sculpting of the persona is distinct and at complete separate ends of the spectrum. The development of the facade that we wear is for survival.. for us to be able to get by in the world, in the society around us, which is governed by whatever social norms we happen to find ourselves entrenched in. So the idea of trying to find our way to our core through positive persona building goes against the idea of the statement... What is “positive”? If we’re trying to be selective in how we develop the persona, what guidelines are we adhering to? The persona we develop will always be governed by whatever it is we perceive as necessary to be as successful a persona as possible in the world. In the same way.. what is “authentic”? If we take it as fact that most of us start developing our persona from a time before we can remember (which is what Jung implies), then most of us, at least, have no reference point to go off when considering what “authentic” means in relation to our core. We’ve never experienced it before, or have only experienced slivers, perhaps... and even then we weren’t aware of it! The process can only be achieved through abandonment of everything that makes up our persona, bit by bit.. and that really is fucking painful. So many aspects of our conditioning or persona-building are so heavily ingrained that we just aren’t aware of them. Think of a child that takes a toy from another child and is reprimanded for it. The kid will kick and scream and rebel and over time will adopt a behaviour that adheres to what’s expected of him in the world, while at the same time losing touch with an element of his core which may have compelled him to want to take the toy in the first place. Who knows what that aspect of his psyche would have been? But him taking a toy definitely isn’t seen as “positive”, but in so conditioning him he moves further away from his psyche’s true expression. I feel that is a terrible example, sorry, and may miss the mark altogether.. but what I’m trying to say is some things are so heavily rooted. For instance, how difficult is it for men to separate themselves from the commonly held idea of what it is to be a man? That shit runs deep and ultimately only obscures us from ourselves.
As to how we do search for our real core... well, I’m just as clueless as the next person, haha. I know there are an unfathomable amount of layers for me to peel away yet, but I’ve discarded quite a few already and that’s been rough af... the toughest journey I’ve ever been on. It’s like at the midway point of the video he mentions people’s individuation processes can develop in a way that’s “unconducive to mental health”.
The other reason it’s so hard to imagine the nature of our real core is because it’s not definable... as mentioned, there can only be an interpretation. Each person’s realized core is as unique as their fingerprint. Much in the same way Buddha doesn’t actually define what enlightenment is... it’s simply “the end of suffering”. What does the “end of suffering” look and feel like? You can’t know until you actually reach it, and that’s the point.
Sorry to babble on. Think your question acted as a prompt for me to process things I need to process. Would love to hear others’ insights too. I’m only at the very beginning of diving into Jung.. it’s so daunting.
Brilliantly crafted. Thank you. I will be recommending this channel to others.
Thanks for continuing to produce such excellent, helpful content.
This means that Shrek was just trying to teach us about the collective unconscious the whole time
Thankyou for the fascinating and high quality content, I appreciate your work.
This man believed in the spiritual world as told by religions and myths but that they exists in our minds, not as fantasies however but as realities. Mind blowing.
Indeed
Keep up the good work guys (not that you need to hear it). The videos you guys make on the different great thinkers and ideas have made a great positive impact on how I view my life and existence. I appreciate it 👍
Great job articulating and illustrating the videos. Accurate and easy to follow and understand.
God never asks for something impossible and ever since I'm a Christian, looking for "perfection" I had achieved many important goals ,spiritual and material goals,so, the idea of "perfection" has always helped me to give the best of myself and get everything I want.
We are not perfect but we are guided - I too am a Christian! God Bless you!
I can't thank you enough for bringing to mind what I once valued and put aside. 😀❤🙏
In short, Know thyself
Much more than that: Self-Mastery.
mastery is masturbation
Mental Gear Much wizdom much luv.
Oh no, not mastery.... it's integration, understanding, becoming whole... I think mastery has much to much of a sense of war and conquering in it. It's nothing like that.
all humans are pedos
Jung's Liber Novus was an elegant and subtle way of describing his own deep dive into unconscious, delivered as a fascinating artistic book. He is very similar to Robert Anton Wilson in that way, where RAW described his experiments in his Cosmic Trigger I book, (and called it ceremonial ritual magic), Jung called the same techniques Active imagination that was triggered through Depth Psychology. But they all are a modern continuation of the shamanistic traditions like found in Eleusinian Mysteries and Mystery Cults all over the world in general.
so i must write about my dreams and analyse then, and to start my individuation, i must not identify myself with the persona, thats it is the way i present myself to others, but how i identify that persona what way i know it is because i thing its so rooted in me that i can tell the diference anymore about me and the persona.
I more Jungian than Freud.
then you are in the crowd yourself
I feel Carl just continued further and deeper. I'm standing on Carl's shoulders with my dissertation.
@@ec6289 your right
That's like saying you are more of an artist than art critic! Where the artist exists independent of the critic the critic has zero existence without the artist. Freud practiced astrology of the psyche he is an idiot just like my theology professors! Although very kind idiots they were where although I am not so sure about Freud!
thankyou very much, i found your video coherently explained, and beneficial. Best wishes
Wow that was some valuable info there explained in a simple way thank you 🙏!
Philosophy, religion, and physics pushed to their limit yields nothing more or less than pure mystery.
Nevertheless, we can have endless fun weaving our tentative theories..
frank xaidam there is the known, the unknown and the unknowable.
3.5 years late to the draw but the volume level is different in every video goddamn
thank u for intro to jung
Jung compared to Freud is basically the Genious who was born later. And, is also very important to note that: Being less rigid, he added a lot to his Master's work regarding the Life of the Soul independently of food, sex, parents...
Thank you. Great job.
Peel and peel towards a completeness that will never come . . . decisive motivations to bring upon a whole of premise to overcome the whole . . . *individuation - mapping the flaw of the wheel. Reason spreading like a flurry of dignification. How the answer to the question - how interests spark a completeness to welcome something new. The ploy shall move in a gravy of its own coalescing.
Your videos will grow exponentially in the future as people become more aware of there own lives. Thank you for your videos
It's awesome gaining insight into the greatest minds.
as always: genius. thank you!
Just found this channel, amazing stuff!
Most excellent explanation.
Does anyone know the name of the image at 0:39 ??
What is the name of the different paintings in the video? They were really beautiful and thought provoking
onces again, you blew my mind. Thanks for your videos
This is by far one of the best channels i ever watched on TH-cam, but man there's a lack of Saint Thomas Aquinas and S. Agostin right here 1:30. Far too much Nietzsche far too little Louis Lavelle.
Very nicely presented. Thank you
Big thanks for such high quality content ! This helps me.
So: 'Greater personality'; 'Darkness'; 'Scope and Insight'; 'Being above'; 'Real core'. These are the jungean definitions of individuation, but basically there is no definition, excluding Aniela Jaffé's - an interpretation.
This so called process is rather undefined, and the 'core' of personality means pretty much whatever you feel like having for supper. Is there any real definition in this study, or in this matter, or are we merely applying astrology's methodology of allusion and intuitive thinking?
Could you please make a list of the paintings that scrolled through this video? Great work, by the way.
You can find a gallery and links to all the paintings here: academyofideas.com/2017/10/carl-jung-what-is-the-individuation-process/
These videos really hit hard in 2020
great video! does somebody know the painting from 6:22 ?
How do you find the paintings? They seem so fitting and relevant
Would like to see a video about how you guys research and make such awesome videos!
Serious question: I've been going down that path for a while and I'm not sure I'm understanding stripping of the ego. I fear I may have become apathetic. Since you stripe certain parts of yourself away to get to a deep place in the psyche.
How on earth did you become so well versed in philosophy?
I always gain insight by your talks. Peace
I've read dreams, synchronicty, and 1/3 through man and his symbols. What should I read next? by jung, of course.
I recommend you read The Archetypes of the Collective Unconcious. It has a part two: Aion which I recommend you follow with. You can also incorporate Alchemical Studies as a mediator between the two if you really wanted a full grasp on the content.
Mars Most thank you, ill do just that. I have to admit that the portion on alchemy in dreams had me stumped. So maybe reading the latter will illuminate the subject.
oscar zafra You're welcome. I hear you on that too.. What may help is to interpret the matter that the
alchemists were talking about as energy. I may be wrong, but as far as I can tell that energy is akin to the "idea" "emotion" "spirit". When the psyche seperates itself from its totality so to speak, or that union of self, the individual is then vulnerable to ideological possession, demon possession, brainwashing whatever you want to call it. It's something like "worshipping false gods". So how can one transform those energies, or integrate those opposites? I don't know enough to be sure.. I think I heard Peterson bring up that the alchemical transmutation is the burning of the spirit for the renewal of the diamond body. A rebirth or redemption. That's the individuation process to the Self aswell. It's an idea you can't just read.. I mean you can, but to truly grasp it's heights and depths you have to take a leap of faith and experience it. Just be careful how far you go if you consider doing that.
(You do this by telling the Truth to yourself at all times. Once you are up to date, I recommend you follow Petersons current battle with Post-modernism and the implications of his lectures on our society today and the growing chaos that's brewing.
Psychology and Alchemy.
As someone who is a big fan of Jordan Peterson, primarily for his expansive and intelligent use of words, your videos are extremely helpful in developing a strong and rich vocabulary, which help me share my thoughts and ideas with others. Much love
Another excellent video! Thanks!
What practical methods in learning attention to individuation one can learn ? Arts, such plastic arts (drawing and others), dramatic arts such theater technics and performances ? there is other more ritualistic linked to day-to-day ?
Individuation seemed to me a very abstract notion on getting grasp of concious self process, but too much abstract a concept ... i would need concrete things to work with. Thank you !
I've been peeling the layors of myself for couple years but, if the process of individualization is removing what you are, how then can you know who you are? That's the problem I'm in rn, idk who I am; I'm so open to possibilities I don't see the reality - in the world/people and myself
I think a common theme with modern philosophy is an intrigue and acceptance of Freud and then a rejection-rebuilding of what is taken away from his work
This higly reminds me on BUddhist Philosophy and Buddhist Psychology. Could you do a talk about Thich Nhat Han Mindfulness teachtings?
CORE TRAINING AND REFERENCE FOR ASSOCIATION OF IDEAS GENERALLY, GENERATIVELY, ITERATIVELY.
Great video! Thanks a lot
You said some people grow up failing to recognise they wear their persona as if it is actually them, and that anyone can admit anything in order to tear of a veil.
How does one possible know when they are killing potential parts of them self that are directly associated with who they are as a character or if they are actually a required part of yourself to die in order to succeed true individuation?
They need to teach this stuff in Recovery Groups rather than drown it out or water it down with concepts of a god being outside somewhere along with other disempowering ideas such as picking up personas to be socially acceptable to societal "norms"
This is very insightful
Really enjoying your channel thank you
Thank You.. for all the lectures ♡
Where does one source all of these beautiful artworks ?
Here: academyofideas.com/2017/10/carl-jung-what-is-the-individuation-process/#art
where do you start on the journey to acquiring self-knowledge? which book? or don't use a book? this is driving me close to madness.
+Ky Severe You're thinking too much. There is no "right" way to start. Begin wherever your curiosity leads you.
ky, chill! just sit alone ,close your eyes, say om, let the oxygen in/out of you body. Forget you are ky, forget all, enjoy emptiness,touch that which you came from & eventually will return to- infinity bliss. DO THAT EVERYDAY FOR A FEW MINUTES, IT is HEALING AND TAKES YOU TO YOUR REAL SELF. have fun!
Ky’Naisha
Start with being honest about what you are as a person. Not forgetting what Jung would call The Shadow- the bits we hide because we, or society don’t like them.
Personality is just a mask. Who are you under that?
How much of you is in response to what your parents want/ don’t want? etching
etc not etching!
What I find interestingly misleading is Jung's impression of why most people know little of the world within. I agree on what concerns our Christian heritage and the believe in the "christian" concept of an "omniscient" God, but I find it misleading if it doesn't separate the fact that christian belief is a modification of Judaism ( which Jung never mentions as he always refers to "christianity") There is a huge difference; in Judaism God may be omniscent, but contrary to the Christian "concepts" of God ( protestants have a slightly different approach to catholics in what concern doctrine) the individual plays a dramatic and massive role in individuation through out the Torah or so called "old testament" which Christians replaced with a "new message" with the Gospel.The torah tells us "Abraham was one man" , Isaiah 51:2,
a man called to leave his family and find his own destiny and this is perpetuated through the Torah, with Joseph, Moses, and so forth. Christianity changed the game when they "created" a short cut to the inner journey by creating a doctrine that promises salvation based on one's acceptance of Jesus alone. The doctrine eliminates the individual's call as a "personal destiny", or personal journey, by pretending that the individual finds sanctuary in the church,
through confession and communion, the church in that sense becoming the new state that denies the individual. While people congregate in churches promoting their lack of individuality, they do not need to question themselves about a world within, because Jesus has already " paid" the dues of their journey if any. However, the Ominiscent God is not the problem, as Jung claims, but the problem dwells in the lack of intimate relation with the "god -within" found through the call of the individual and as it is poetically stated through the Jewish doctrine.
Interesting. I read somewhere that in the later satges of his life, Jung became increasingly interested by kabbalistic symbols. He just never delved into judaism as much because he didn't know hebrew, but he knew latin and greek... If you google: Jung and the kabbalah, you will find a long essay given to the american psychological association by sanford L grob. I think it will be of interest to you!
In the Undiscovered Self Jung seems more concerned with individuation being subverted by an incomplete identity of Statistical Rational chunking. It's important for creative people to integrate the rational part of their identity and use 0bejctive tools but the push of an idealistic conception of being is very concerning.
Very well said. I think it is just a product of their times.. Jordan Peterson with his modern day leanings and calling himself a Christian, is a real fish out of water even though he is only highlighting many ideas in the past, refreshing to see anyway.. I prefer more uplifting kinds of psychological thinking (positive, humanist or existential psychology) and what I realise with that is I'm looking for something spiritual, but religion doesn't cut it for me, religion may be an opiate for the masses in good and bad, but honestly it is akin to holding back the tide with a broom.
Imagine that Christianity or Islam conquered the world, everyone unified under the same belief structure, peace on Earth etc.
How long would it take for some new form of sectarianism to begin? I imagine it would begin on the first day of said peace, even before it. Such is the war between individuation and collectivism, on and on it goes.. The biggest threat to God's children, is each other.. Or so we think. But even if I didn't think, well that is no guarantee the man next to me isn't plotting me or someone else's downfall, so do I do nothing, or pray? lol..
Tony Randall If you haven't read Jacque Ellul or Paul Virilio I recommend them. I also write short stories if you would like to read one I'm working on lemme know.
I suggest you may be confusing what the church calls ‘sins’
with the unconscious bits of the psyche. Not at all the same.
Jung nowhere starts from original sin. We are all human with it’s weaknesses.
Jungian analysis is done alone with the analyst. No Christian church- (apart from the Gnostics) supports individual work on The Self.
So you either go for a load of laid down laws
Or you bravely take your lone journey which is unique to you. That doesn’t mean you let the ego run rampant.
Church doctrine controls the ego.
Jungian analysis encourages the freedom to discover the whole Psyche- even the broken off but called The Shadow.
‘Sin’ in the original Aramaic language that Jesus spoke, simply meant ‘to miss the mark’
The connotations of guilt were added by Judaism and Christianity.
The artwork in this video was so beautiful I couldnt concentrate. Can somebody summarize the concept of understanding archetypes? What does that mean?
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You've really been pumping out many video's out lately, this is great!