Just to mention. Faze Testy did a video on it, and it was one shooting on the body with stopping power apparently. I'm not sure if they were full plated tho. It may be because of this bugged hitbox or something too, idk
@@mrcraggle me personally I go off my own personal feeling. People say the AX 50 suck, and I argue that the AX is the best sniper for CONSOLE players. You can't just say a weapon is bad immediately.
Do you known if it’s just ZRG or all CW snipers? I used to use the Tundra with hangman becuz of no glint. Gonna have to check if it still works on tundra
At that weight, with those speeds I do believe that your head would experience slight burns. The shoulder one the other hand would be non existent and if your missing a shoulder, you are also missing a whole arm.
Raven are definitely designing weapons purely to test Tony at this point. "Hey, let's introduce random damage modifiers around head damage and see if the f*cker notices that lmfao"
A decent sniper could hit that shot with most of the viable rifles, but the ZRG is also broken. I was already telling my group that it's going to be miserable to play until this gets a nerf - specifically because of what felt like one shot kills to almost anywhere on the upper body, and high fire rate with no recoil. TGD confirmed - this is the sniper rifle for people who don't have the skill to use sniper rifles effectively.
This gun makes zero sense in this game. It was bad enough with 50cal having the same damage numbers as a 308. Now we have a crew serve weapon, that you can hip fire??? And shoot while standing?
Now I’m confused and conflicted :( I typically go to you, your site, etc for my info; I follow JGod and Xlusive Ace, and they either reached different numbers in their testing, or they said it wasn’t worth it. I like it in Cold War, but have not tried it in Warzone.
when you were testing the weapon, were you using a store bought blueprint? is it possible the weird hitbox situation could be the result of some sort of "pay to win" coding like the mac10 went through?
Maybe the head hit box thing is because the bullet is actually coded as being 2cm big. So where a normal 5.56 round may miss. Then maybe the 2cm round is wider and hits the head??
I was thinking the same thing. I actually started thing that maybe, the bullet is so large that it is capable of hitting two boxes at the same which time and then the code does proportional damage. For exemple: 50% of the bullet hits the head hitbox (250dmg) and the other 50% hits de chest (120dmg) with that in account, the resulting damage would be 185 damage to the player. Maybe I'm giving Raven too much credit but that would explain the inconsistencies.
@@christopherparedes3096 well if bullet size was already in the code when IW handled it raven would just have to add a value. I think they can handle that
the idle sway probably is less on the zrg because the zrg weighs like 5000 pounds haha. by having that weight it is generally slower, also the idle sway
@@albertoperez3214 but it isnt bullpup the mag is on the side and infronr of the trigger and if its a bullpup most of The Weight would be in the back, that would decrease accuracy
Was anticipating this video quite a bit after JGod and Xclusive Ace's videos on the ZRG. Despite their thoughts on the gun, there just seemed to be one thing missing from their analysis that didn't quite line up with my own personal experience using the gun, which was the bullet drop. When I fired it in the 200-300 metre range I was getting mid-air snipes in plunder that I normally wouldn't get using other snipers and I'm not a great sniper by any means.
Larger diameter on its own doesn't necessarily mean a bullet will slow down more quickly. Ballistic coefficient and sectional density are key factors. A larger bullet can still have great sectional density and thus retain more velocity than a smaller bullet. It really just depends on the specific bullet.
@@wickswayze7714 yeah, they came out with videos about the gun the same day. TGD came out with one days later, because he tested more than they did & his video is longer & he goes into more details. They just try to hurry up & put out content.
Thanks for the vid TDG, one thing to test out additionally is bullet penetration. Watch stodeh's video on it, hes getting some ridiculous wallbangs with it! might be those purposely broken guns yet again...
Btw in the gunsmith or what ever it’s called, it say that the ZRG is a one shot kill on head, chest and shoulders. So that’s why you may experience more “headshots”.
Love your videos man keep up the good work! Just wanted to point something out about your physics. In real life long range shooting, bullets drag through the air is measured in ballistic coefficient. Generally the larger the caliber the higher the ballistic coefficient, or how slippery the bullet flys through the air, leading to less drop and higher maintained speeds throughout its course of travel. If the 20mm bullet was designed properly even though it had a greater cross sectional area it would have far less drop than any smaller caliber. I saw you mention this before on the SPR video saying the 338 rounds should drop more where again in real life they drop less than the 300 rounds due to their better ballistic coefficient. If your ever curious more on real life ballistics let me know!
So bigger the bullet the less it drops because of its mass correct? Bigger bullets are able to keep keep their "cut through air" energy longer? I think what I said makes sense.
@@LucasLeCompteMusic its more of the shape of the bullet. For example a very pointy bullet with a properly shaped bowtail would drop less and maintain its velocity better vs the same caliber bullet with the same mass but shaped like a soda can because it can't cut through the air. It really has everything to do with its ballistic coefficient (drag through the air).
@@LucasLeCompteMusic your on the right track though! TH-cam has a ton of good videos on the topic just search for ballistic coefficient and you will get a full lesson on it
About the head hitbox thing, I can definitely confirm. Hitting neck/shoulders occasionally counts as a headshot (on still targets, i dont count moving ones as there mightve been lag n whatnot). Perhaps it's because it's a 20mm? Nice little detail i suppose. Also the LW3 desperately needs a stability buff.
Both are really really good informations. There are some mistakes one or other make. But overall they are goat. Also, jgod tested with 1000 meters, that's why there's such a difference
Some earlier stats discouraged me from spending any more time leveling it up even though there was something thing I liked about it...I’m happy you pointed out these benefits that I subconsciously felt but couldn’t put my finger on. Back to plunder I go! :p
You don’t want me in your lobby trust me 😅 - I take it too personally and run lock-on rockets and mines that I like to set under other heli spawns in the area I’m working in or throw them like a frisbee from my chopper while seat switching to unattended helicopters as they get the contract they just beat me to and just shoot anyone out of the sky if anyone comes in my air space with my lock-on 🙃 Only way to get a consistent high amount of contracts completed solo
So i did my own testing, at 120mts, the HDR got any bullet drop, the ZRG did have a bit, did the same test but with my AX 50 and SPR with norma rounds, and the ZRG did better than those two, having a little less bullet drop than the SPR. So in the end, The ZRG despite having more bullet drop than the HDR, is slightly better than the SPR as a long to middle range sniper. I will be testing bullet speed soon
Very different take than JGOD. I was amazed at how JGOD said it had poor bullet velocity because it felt so much better than that. This makes more sense!
About the headshot hitbox; I think it's so large because based on the description of the gun it's a 1 shot kill to the head, chest and shoulders. Of course this is just a guess but it does say so in the description.
Yeah but if you hit them in the chest/shoulders then it wouldn't give you the headshot notification when you kill them, which it does nearly all of the time
Only you would be smart enough to notice and compare that type for specific gun behaviors and I'm constantly impressed with the quality and usefulness of the content you put out. Seriously thank you for everything you do for this community. I'm incredibly passionate about this game and was lost for so long trying to figure out how to make my guns perform as well as people killing me or streamers and would have never gotten to the skill level I am without you, your channel, your streams, and your website. Thank you so much, we appreciate it more than you could know.
Imagine if Raven put the 14x115mm in the ZRG (yes, the ZRG 20mm is based on the Denel NTW 20 which uses 20mm and the Soviet 14x115mm cartridge) it would be crazy, already with the 20mm it has an incredible bullet speed, I can 'imagine with the 14x115mm, great video TGD.
I've heard so many mixed reviews, JGOD thinks it's meh, IcemanIsaac and XclusiveAce don't like it, Stod wants to like it, Testy and Metaphor like it a lot and TGD loves it. I'm also seeing a lot of different numbers for bullet velocity so I'm having a hard time knowing what to think. Basically I want a high bullet velocity gun with great damage but costs to fire rate and mobility (like in Cold War). If the Kar can one shot someone with 1 plate with a chest shot, the ZRG should have 200 damage to the chest and be able to one shot someone with 2 plates.
IMO, TGD is the most reliable of all the stat guys. He has the most robust testing. TGD was the only person who explained the bullet velocity properly.
Imo this sniper according to stats feels like the spr and the hdr were combined and this was born.cant say for sure cause i havent unlocked it and im sticking with my ax50/kar/hdr
I was using the vulture custom zoom scope on the ZRG yesterday and it looks like they have added scope glint to it. I saw my glint on a couple kill cams and people were spotting me very quickly from hundreds of meters out.
in cold war while i was getting diamond for it doing the longshot challenges i noticed that the idle sway is worse with the best stabilizer than a tundra with no muzzle attachment laying down, squatting, and standing up. its weird that its completely opposite in warzone
6:40 last week I was observing the same with SPR norma rounds, where one hit at close range did around 230 damage which is impossible according to the damage model. I shot a guy first time noscope then he killed me it showed the blue broken armor marker, and in the kill cam it showed that I took 3 of his plates and around 2/3 of his HP. This then happened to me several more times with SPR in longer ranges but within 150 meters while aiming at head.
First of all, thank you very much for Providing all these information and hard Work! In CW its amazing..wallbangin, 1Bullet 1 dead, also tried it out in Plunder ( zrg lvl 3) and the damage is really inconsistent around upperchest/shoulder (range around 200-300m)..thank you very much for this information! Im curious, when you Check Out the Typ63 data, tried to compare it with the DMR14 data, Not checked yet! I think the Typ63 could be a substitute for the DMR14..just maybeee! coz its quite good in Plunder (typ63 lvl 30) A naiz day🤙🏼
Went out and used all the cold war snipers and the spr and the ZRG feels way more consistent and you can definitely land some better shots with it compared to the others, just noticed I run the same setup also lol
Could you also test if it has above average bullet penetration? I've gotten hit markers through concrete barriers and some non driveable vehicles and that dosnt seem normal compared to the other snipers.
idk, not really convinced why it's better than spr which we have already seen is better than hdr unless as you said there is some head shot hit box bonus to this gun
I actually don't know what to think of it right now. TGD and JGOD have completely different stats and I'm still trying to level it up. But I can agree that they need to buff the damage. I wouldn't mind a nerf to ads or movement speed if that meant I would get more damage. Also I agree there's something wrong with the head hitbox, bc I was hitting some of my nastiest snipes yesterday. And I'm the noobiest player i know
I think the difference in measured BV values comes down to the refresh rate differences; XA and JGOD play at 60 Hz while TGD plays at 240 Hz so chances are he's getting more precise results closer to the actual value, assuming his testing conditions make sense.
@@avocadoc1292 also I found this glitch where I shot a guy dead center in the chest and it still counted it as a headshot . It only happened once though.
Loving the videos and work you're doing, just curious why your comparing ads time with the HDR and SPR when I feel like WAY more people run the Kar98. So why not compare the ads on that for "meta" context?
The reason for getting headshots easier on this weapon is on the bullet size not the head hit box, i use the explosive rytec a lot and im sure they have the same effect bigger bullet easier headshot
While i really do trust the stats you put out, im wondering how both xclusive ace and jgod both got similar bullet velocities of 1100 m/s. Also, could you do bullet drop tests at 200 ish meters? I think that would be really useful, both to demonstrate your theory about the zrg bullet drop, and to see the other guns relative to each other at more reasonable ranges.
@@jonnerspeters8034 j god said he tests at 497 meters off of prison multiple times, and the bullets would be going faster at shorter distances, it wouldnt speed up at 500 over 200
Honestly for a 20mm round damage should be instant kill, give it slower ADS and reduce the fire rate to 30 bullets per minute but give it a 300 damage. Also for an anti-material sniper it doesn't disable vehicles as it should with a couple of shots.
Actually, a massive projectile shot at the same velocity as a smaller projectile will conserver more of its energy and thus will not drop faster or slow of quicker. Test it with an airsoftrifle and a pelletgun, about the same bullet velocity but the pellet has more energy and will go faster further.
SO I levelled up this and found it decent BUT no steady aim on Hangman site or many others it seems which is ridiculous.... I prefer abit more zoom than the stock scope which is good I know this but it smy personal preference, Could you look into which scopes you can actually hold your breath on.
Hey did anyone actually tweet Activision or Raven telling them breath holding is not working with most scopes on this gun. Still a great gun though but this should work...
if the crosshair always recenters, does the bipod make it recenter faster? I know it helps with visual recoil after the shot.. Also when you are ADS which stock is the best for side to side strafe speed? Combat stock feels faster then the Raider stock but I could be wrong.
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Loving the ZRG. Using it right now on stream at twitch.tv/truegamedatalive
Does the fast mag speed up the ads time tho? 🤔
RE: the head box forgiveness: one of the in-game messages says that it's one shot head and upper torso shot.
I'm interested to know if the sigma barrel does extra damage in warzone?
@@LordVader69420 no it weakens it makes makes it slower by quite abit
Just to mention. Faze Testy did a video on it, and it was one shooting on the body with stopping power apparently. I'm not sure if they were full plated tho. It may be because of this bugged hitbox or something too, idk
JGOD: "this gun sucks"
TGD: "new best sniper"
Me: *brain explodes*
So true
XclusiveAce said the same thing too and that it wasn't worth it.
Its like when the two smartest kids in class get different answers
@@mrcraggle me personally I go off my own personal feeling. People say the AX 50 suck, and I argue that the AX is the best sniper for CONSOLE players. You can't just say a weapon is bad immediately.
@@PhiloTheGod It’s not a bad sniper there are just better options
Side note: Hangman scope does give you glint just as a heads up. Found this out last night when I was testing this with my friend.
@Darius Hansen some have glint
I thought we knew this, only susat
Hangman has more zoom than the 4x and a built in rangefinder, and a less obstructive frame. Hangman>>4x
Do you known if it’s just ZRG or all CW snipers? I used to use the Tundra with hangman becuz of no glint. Gonna have to check if it still works on tundra
@@RicoSuave1228 Some of em are changed bro. Test them again IMO
I'm confident that If you shot someone in the shoulder with a 20mm their head will feel it too
At that weight, with those speeds I do believe that your head would experience slight burns. The shoulder one the other hand would be non existent and if your missing a shoulder, you are also missing a whole arm.
@@urenmaximus4353 I love you lmao
@@urenmaximus4353 A 20mm shot collision won't remove your shoulder. It will make you implode and disappear.
@@ammarokla7217 i could take it
@@silentbutdeadly654 well, can you take his bigger 30mm gatling cousin that is usually mounted on an A-10 Thunderbolt also known as "warthog".
The logic of deceleration with larger bullets and the devs doing it on purpose is very generous haha
Its actually very much on brand with mw2019/wz to focus on details like that and ignore fundamental gameplay problems.
it would be the other way around if it was on accident
@@moistsack6066 mw only not bocw
@@iqbalhussein5434 who even plays BOCW lmao
@@iqbalhussein5434 im not talking about cold war???
I thought it was pretty good but now suddenly, after a few seconds out of nowhere, I think it’s the best sniper.
this deserves top comment
Yeah, I figured out the same conclusion immediately 47 minutes after you did. Strange coincidence.
The meta prophet has spoken
If he says the Sa87, all of a sudden it’s the best meta Lmg
@@chuck1313 SA87 melts ngl.
Raven are definitely designing weapons purely to test Tony at this point. "Hey, let's introduce random damage modifiers around head damage and see if the f*cker notices that lmfao"
"Suck it Tony, we fooked the numbers a bunch this time" Raven probably
The housefairy is right,they are just trolling the data miners and testers at this point..
Are we not gonna address the shot at 12:39 where he just casually picks a dude off at like 500 yards
He was definitely hyped inside
He's just nuts
Man didn’t even flinch after making that shot
@@adamzen1620 yeah, he even mentioned that he hits shots like that all the time, you can get really consistent at them if you're an experienced sniper
A decent sniper could hit that shot with most of the viable rifles, but the ZRG is also broken. I was already telling my group that it's going to be miserable to play until this gets a nerf - specifically because of what felt like one shot kills to almost anywhere on the upper body, and high fire rate with no recoil. TGD confirmed - this is the sniper rifle for people who don't have the skill to use sniper rifles effectively.
The ironsight on snipers got a massive ads buff
Ohhh
To bad they are extremely ugly
hackers liked that
@@jalapenopoggers8310 Facts😂👌
"3 rounds is only enough to down 1 guy finish him off then down another guy". me putting the 7 round mag on to down 1 dude
Dude i use the 30rnd mag on the dmr and get plates cracked lol
the real king of yt. nothing like hearing your intro and getting hyped
Weirdo
Oh yeah, TGD is the Goat
@@reecep4016 bro get outta here
@@PhiloTheGod he posts relatively good content when it comes to warzone. You can both bend him over if you want
In xclusive ace’s video his data showed that the fast mag (2nd one) reduced ads speed
I don't care that much about ads speed so I'll use vandal speed
Xclusive ace needs to up his game and start testing on 144 hz
@@ez.fartsneezy2889 ye he does need to up his game
EZ.fartsneezy he tests for console players, he could up his game if he would want too
The hangman also can't hold breath, so im guessing that raven just forgot to code it.
I always felt like the Kar98 had a more forgiving head hit box as well.
Same
I'm convinced of it.
Yep. Always getting headshots with kar. But any other sniper I break plates half the time
I like how they make the bullets be slower because it is a 20mm but does less damage than a 7,62
They should buff the damage and change other stuff so it's good but not overpowered.
This gun makes zero sense in this game. It was bad enough with 50cal having the same damage numbers as a 308. Now we have a crew serve weapon, that you can hip fire??? And shoot while standing?
Now I’m confused and conflicted :( I typically go to you, your site, etc for my info; I follow JGod and Xlusive Ace, and they either reached different numbers in their testing, or they said it wasn’t worth it. I like it in Cold War, but have not tried it in Warzone.
Then try it and see if you like it. To me the slow ads is killer I prefer the lw3
@@CYWNightmare have you tried the 3x with it? I personally love the lw3 but I think it’s very similar ads with the 3x
@@CYWNightmare and the fact the gun looks like absalute shit
I am pretty sure i can talk for everyone when i say thank you for your work
when you were testing the weapon, were you using a store bought blueprint? is it possible the weird hitbox situation could be the result of some sort of "pay to win" coding like the mac10 went through?
ay read my comment below i write my idea to the hitbox
From the weapon name shown upon switching I think it`s the vanilla one.
He said he leveled it all the way up
Maybe the head hit box thing is because the bullet is actually coded as being 2cm big. So where a normal 5.56 round may miss. Then maybe the 2cm round is wider and hits the head??
I think you might be giving Raven way too much credit
I was thinking the same thing. I actually started thing that maybe, the bullet is so large that it is capable of hitting two boxes at the same which time and then the code does proportional damage. For exemple: 50% of the bullet hits the head hitbox (250dmg) and the other 50% hits de chest (120dmg) with that in account, the resulting damage would be 185 damage to the player.
Maybe I'm giving Raven too much credit but that would explain the inconsistencies.
@@christopherparedes3096 well if bullet size was already in the code when IW handled it raven would just have to add a value. I think they can handle that
the idle sway probably is less on the zrg because the zrg weighs like 5000 pounds haha. by having that weight it is generally slower, also the idle sway
It's only 60 lbs actually IRL
wouldn't more weight add more idle sway because its more difficult to hold?
@@peterjohnson1379 Only
I think it being a bullpup sniper balances it out better and not be as front heavy as other traditional sniper rifles. So less sway
@@albertoperez3214 but it isnt bullpup the mag is on the side and infronr of the trigger and if its a bullpup most of The Weight would be in the back, that would decrease accuracy
Was anticipating this video quite a bit after JGod and Xclusive Ace's videos on the ZRG. Despite their thoughts on the gun, there just seemed to be one thing missing from their analysis that didn't quite line up with my own personal experience using the gun, which was the bullet drop. When I fired it in the 200-300 metre range I was getting mid-air snipes in plunder that I normally wouldn't get using other snipers and I'm not a great sniper by any means.
Larger diameter on its own doesn't necessarily mean a bullet will slow down more quickly. Ballistic coefficient and sectional density are key factors. A larger bullet can still have great sectional density and thus retain more velocity than a smaller bullet. It really just depends on the specific bullet.
Am guess you know how bullet work in real life because i know very little able real life bullet
Still waiting for people to catch wind of the hidden Dragunov meta
I would rather throw sticks
@@christopherparedes3096 😂😂😂😂
I would literally rather use fists than the shitty dragonov
I believe in the movement
MP or Warzone?
Got here in 7 seconds from posting. My new PB 💪
When Exclusive or JGod drop a new video I'm like "hmmmm"
When TGD drop I'm like 👀
glad im not the only one lol
@@wickswayze7714 yeah, they came out with videos about the gun the same day. TGD came out with one days later, because he tested more than they did & his video is longer & he goes into more details. They just try to hurry up & put out content.
Maybe the head hitbox is ok, i've noticid similar things with other guns, maybe the actuall projectiles are different in size depending on the gun.
Thanks for the vid TDG, one thing to test out additionally is bullet penetration. Watch stodeh's video on it, hes getting some ridiculous wallbangs with it! might be those purposely broken guns yet again...
Very solid video. Some good points made. I wasn't going to level this up... But I think I will now...
That mid air shot about 12 minutes was so cheeky, and TGD didn’t even react
Savage moment huh?😂😎
Hey truegamedata, message for the algorithm:
I love you
Thank you for the vids and the website 👍👍👍
Great work and approach to test the data. Hat tip
Actually you can hold your breath using the 3x and 4x optics. The symbol for holding breath is just missing.
True, I use hdr with cronen scope and it rules counter sniping in ground war because there is no glint
Not true, try it out, you can't hold your breath with the 2x, 3x, 4x and Hangman's.
@@rojo67 i tried it. You dont See a symbol but your aim gets steady if you hold the Button for breath holding. Not displayed but idle sway stops.
Btw in the gunsmith or what ever it’s called, it say that the ZRG is a one shot kill on head, chest and shoulders. So that’s why you may experience more “headshots”.
That is just the description copied from Cold War
Trash doesnt even break 3 plates on wz
Imagine if we didn't have TGD. No one would use the ZRG except us quickscopers lol also, doesn't fast mag improve ads time? can we confirm that?
Heard it made it worse. Wassup drey! Know you from the facebook group haha
If we didn't have TGD everyone else who makes videos wouldn't have half the data they have.
@@scottyd3138 Oh yeah! what's up Scott!
@@ryanreviews8566 i'm doing a million supply runs in plunder all weekend to level this new sniper haha
@Christopher Amend you got data to confirm it?
My man using Paint to show graphics. Respect.
When will ZRG data be on your website? I checked under the SR category but didn't see it
Love your videos man keep up the good work! Just wanted to point something out about your physics. In real life long range shooting, bullets drag through the air is measured in ballistic coefficient. Generally the larger the caliber the higher the ballistic coefficient, or how slippery the bullet flys through the air, leading to less drop and higher maintained speeds throughout its course of travel. If the 20mm bullet was designed properly even though it had a greater cross sectional area it would have far less drop than any smaller caliber. I saw you mention this before on the SPR video saying the 338 rounds should drop more where again in real life they drop less than the 300 rounds due to their better ballistic coefficient. If your ever curious more on real life ballistics let me know!
So bigger the bullet the less it drops because of its mass correct? Bigger bullets are able to keep keep their "cut through air" energy longer? I think what I said makes sense.
@@LucasLeCompteMusic its more of the shape of the bullet. For example a very pointy bullet with a properly shaped bowtail would drop less and maintain its velocity better vs the same caliber bullet with the same mass but shaped like a soda can because it can't cut through the air. It really has everything to do with its ballistic coefficient (drag through the air).
@@LucasLeCompteMusic your on the right track though! TH-cam has a ton of good videos on the topic just search for ballistic coefficient and you will get a full lesson on it
TGD: This is now the best sniper.
JGOD: This thing is worthless.
Me: I have no idea what to believe but it feels good to use so... it wins.
About the head hitbox thing, I can definitely confirm. Hitting neck/shoulders occasionally counts as a headshot (on still targets, i dont count moving ones as there mightve been lag n whatnot). Perhaps it's because it's a 20mm? Nice little detail i suppose.
Also the LW3 desperately needs a stability buff.
Indeed, even shorter ranges that are supposed to be hitscans somehow I miss them multiple times, every time with the crosshair on the enemy.
@@MadBlazer89 same!!! at like 20m or so, it feels like it'll miss the easiest shots sometimes
Warning: loud click around 2:02
2:34 too
Yooo awesome vid bro. Thanks for the work.
This man just casually hit a 300m shot in mid air while explaining the gun damn
great vid man!
Excellent video. I hope they fix held breath with the 4x scope
Loving the science you are putting in man. Keep it up!
i dont even play this game anymore but i cant help but click on your videos. so entertaining!
While it used to not, the hangman RF does have glint now. Tested it out in plunder multiple times in the last few days
At this point I trust you more than jgod
Both are really really good informations. There are some mistakes one or other make. But overall they are goat. Also, jgod tested with 1000 meters, that's why there's such a difference
Some earlier stats discouraged me from spending any more time leveling it up even though there was something thing I liked about it...I’m happy you pointed out these benefits that I subconsciously felt but couldn’t put my finger on. Back to plunder I go! :p
See you in plunder my gun leveling brother
You don’t want me in your lobby trust me 😅 - I take it too personally and run lock-on rockets and mines that I like to set under other heli spawns in the area I’m working in or throw them like a frisbee from my chopper while seat switching to unattended helicopters as they get the contract they just beat me to and just shoot anyone out of the sky if anyone comes in my air space with my lock-on 🙃
Only way to get a consistent high amount of contracts completed solo
JGod brought me here, dont regret it 💯
I’m 99% certain there is an upper back multiplier because I noticed something similar with getting one shot kills with the LW3 Tundra
So i did my own testing, at 120mts, the HDR got any bullet drop, the ZRG did have a bit, did the same test but with my AX 50 and SPR with norma rounds, and the ZRG did better than those two, having a little less bullet drop than the SPR. So in the end, The ZRG despite having more bullet drop than the HDR, is slightly better than the SPR as a long to middle range sniper. I will be testing bullet speed soon
Very different take than JGOD. I was amazed at how JGOD said it had poor bullet velocity because it felt so much better than that. This makes more sense!
Jgod literally said it fell right where he does in bullet velocity.
@@richardbernhard1151 JGOD stated it had worse billet velocity than both HDR and SPR
@@richardbernhard1151 almost 100 m/s slower compared to HDR per JGOD
@@TCaptainX it does
About the headshot hitbox; I think it's so large because based on the description of the gun it's a 1 shot kill to the head, chest and shoulders. Of course this is just a guess but it does say so in the description.
Yeah but if you hit them in the chest/shoulders then it wouldn't give you the headshot notification when you kill them, which it does nearly all of the time
Only you would be smart enough to notice and compare that type for specific gun behaviors and I'm constantly impressed with the quality and usefulness of the content you put out. Seriously thank you for everything you do for this community. I'm incredibly passionate about this game and was lost for so long trying to figure out how to make my guns perform as well as people killing me or streamers and would have never gotten to the skill level I am without you, your channel, your streams, and your website. Thank you so much, we appreciate it more than you could know.
Why not use the 10x or the 20x scope to get that extra zoom? I quite like using those
Imagine if Raven put the 14x115mm in the ZRG (yes, the ZRG 20mm is based on the Denel NTW 20 which uses 20mm and the Soviet 14x115mm cartridge) it would be crazy, already with the 20mm it has an incredible bullet speed, I can 'imagine with the 14x115mm, great video TGD.
I've heard so many mixed reviews, JGOD thinks it's meh, IcemanIsaac and XclusiveAce don't like it, Stod wants to like it, Testy and Metaphor like it a lot and TGD loves it. I'm also seeing a lot of different numbers for bullet velocity so I'm having a hard time knowing what to think.
Basically I want a high bullet velocity gun with great damage but costs to fire rate and mobility (like in Cold War). If the Kar can one shot someone with 1 plate with a chest shot, the ZRG should have 200 damage to the chest and be able to one shot someone with 2 plates.
IMO, TGD is the most reliable of all the stat guys. He has the most robust testing. TGD was the only person who explained the bullet velocity properly.
Thanks for all the hard work I trust your word and I will try the ZRG 🤘
Why no mention anymore of the Pellington? Is the glint bug making it redundant?
Imo this sniper according to stats feels like the spr and the hdr were combined and this was born.cant say for sure cause i havent unlocked it and im sticking with my ax50/kar/hdr
Hell yeah new TGD video!
I was using the vulture custom zoom scope on the ZRG yesterday and it looks like they have added scope glint to it. I saw my glint on a couple kill cams and people were spotting me very quickly from hundreds of meters out.
11:49 i love warzone logic,20mm cannon has no recoil when irl it would take your shoulder off XD
in cold war while i was getting diamond for it doing the longshot challenges i noticed that the idle sway is worse with the best stabilizer than a tundra with no muzzle attachment laying down, squatting, and standing up. its weird that its completely opposite in warzone
6:40 last week I was observing the same with SPR norma rounds, where one hit at close range did around 230 damage which is impossible according to the damage model. I shot a guy first time noscope then he killed me it showed the blue broken armor marker, and in the kill cam it showed that I took 3 of his plates and around 2/3 of his HP. This then happened to me several more times with SPR in longer ranges but within 150 meters while aiming at head.
Idk about this one truegamedata. You should check bullet drop differences. You really think a 20mm should be a 3 shot kill?
It only does.enough damage to 2 shot kill to the chest, and that is only within the first damage range...
They fixed the 3x and 4x for holding breath
12:37 I hit shots like that too all the time, now it's gonna be easier for me to hit many back to back
man that shot at 12:36 was very nice!
First of all, thank you very much for Providing all these information and hard Work!
In CW its amazing..wallbangin, 1Bullet 1 dead, also tried it out in Plunder ( zrg lvl 3) and the damage is really inconsistent around upperchest/shoulder (range around 200-300m)..thank you very much for this information!
Im curious, when you Check Out the Typ63 data, tried to compare it with the DMR14 data, Not checked yet! I think the Typ63 could be a substitute for the DMR14..just maybeee! coz its quite good in Plunder (typ63 lvl 30)
A naiz day🤙🏼
Love your videos. Keep up the good work!
really hoping they fix the scope crouch glitch and make the stability attachments work because the zrg and pellington will be beast with them
Went out and used all the cold war snipers and the spr and the ZRG feels way more consistent and you can definitely land some better shots with it compared to the others, just noticed I run the same setup also lol
Amazing content!! Thank you. !!!!
Could you also test if it has above average bullet penetration? I've gotten hit markers through concrete barriers and some non driveable vehicles and that dosnt seem normal compared to the other snipers.
the description says it's a one shot kill to the shoulders. so maybe there is more hitbox zones than just extremities, that'd be worth investigating.
idk, not really convinced why it's better than spr which we have already seen is better than hdr unless as you said there is some head shot hit box bonus to this gun
The SPR and the Kar98K on that matter have a 2 shot chest potential which makes them the greatest among the snipers
Would you use the sound suppressor for wicker ADS as the bullet velocity is still good or still wrapped for maximum velocity
I actually don't know what to think of it right now. TGD and JGOD have completely different stats and I'm still trying to level it up. But I can agree that they need to buff the damage. I wouldn't mind a nerf to ads or movement speed if that meant I would get more damage.
Also I agree there's something wrong with the head hitbox, bc I was hitting some of my nastiest snipes yesterday. And I'm the noobiest player i know
I think the difference in measured BV values comes down to the refresh rate differences; XA and JGOD play at 60 Hz while TGD plays at 240 Hz so chances are he's getting more precise results closer to the actual value, assuming his testing conditions make sense.
@@avocadoc1292 also I found this glitch where I shot a guy dead center in the chest and it still counted it as a headshot . It only happened once though.
@@avocadoc1292 Xculiveace and Jgod do it at 60 FPS not HZ. I have no idea on TGD uses.
you cant hold your breath with the hangman scope as well. vulture and the 20x zoom might have the same problem
Keep up the good work brother!
Loving the videos and work you're doing, just curious why your comparing ads time with the HDR and SPR when I feel like WAY more people run the Kar98. So why not compare the ads on that for "meta" context?
The 20x scope had glint lastnight in plunder as I was killed by someone with it
The reason for getting headshots easier on this weapon is on the bullet size not the head hit box, i use the explosive rytec a lot and im sure they have the same effect bigger bullet easier headshot
While i really do trust the stats you put out, im wondering how both xclusive ace and jgod both got similar bullet velocities of 1100 m/s.
Also, could you do bullet drop tests at 200 ish meters? I think that would be really useful, both to demonstrate your theory about the zrg bullet drop, and to see the other guns relative to each other at more reasonable ranges.
True game data tests at 500 meters and at 240 fps. JGOD and Ace test at 200 meters at 60 fps
@@jonnerspeters8034 j god said he tests at 497 meters off of prison multiple times, and the bullets would be going faster at shorter distances, it wouldnt speed up at 500 over 200
Honestly for a 20mm round damage should be instant kill, give it slower ADS and reduce the fire rate to 30 bullets per minute but give it a 300 damage. Also for an anti-material sniper it doesn't disable vehicles as it should with a couple of shots.
I bought it, tried it in plunder to get a feel for it. Nothing really unlocked except for what came on the blueprint. Went back to the kar98
Your whole squad is insane at sniping!!
No clue how you're only at 130,000 subscribers as the creator of that legendary website in the COD community.
I’ve heard a lot of mixed reviews, is it really that good?
I thought it was average
If it feels good for you then use it, but I'm confident the kar98 will still be the meta.
@@GRAITOM I feel like what TGD said is right. It’ll be better for all around sniping and long range sniping but nothing can touch the kar up close
Actually, a massive projectile shot at the same velocity as a smaller projectile will conserver more of its energy and thus will not drop faster or slow of quicker. Test it with an airsoftrifle and a pelletgun, about the same bullet velocity but the pellet has more energy and will go faster further.
It has a 1600 Meter Per second velocity in Cold War! It’s insane!
SO I levelled up this and found it decent BUT no steady aim on Hangman site or many others it seems which is ridiculous.... I prefer abit more zoom than the stock scope which is good I know this but it smy personal preference, Could you look into which scopes you can actually hold your breath on.
thanks for vid, really helpful! Is HDR variable scope still broken? From what I can tell it's still not glinting.
I had a feeling smth was off
Hey did anyone actually tweet Activision or Raven telling them breath holding is not working with most scopes on this gun. Still a great gun though but this should work...
Thank you for fixing your website boss 💪
if the crosshair always recenters, does the bipod make it recenter faster? I know it helps with visual recoil after the shot.. Also when you are ADS which stock is the best for side to side strafe speed? Combat stock feels faster then the Raider stock but I could be wrong.