Something a little different in the pinned comment today. My friend Kristina (twitch.tv/iamgamergrille) has been helping build TGD since day 1 in May of last year and she doesn't get as much credit as she deserves for all her work on truegamedata.com. She is trying to move into full time streaming + TGD work and is on the edge of getting partnered on Twitch, if you have any interest in her stream, go check her out - she is live right now at twitch.tv/iamgamergrille playing games with me and others.
I actually forgot to check shotties because I didn't think any would be as fast. All the CW guns are a lot faster than the MW guns in sprint speed so I doubt the VLK is faster, but I will check and pin it if it is!
@@TrueGameData Yea I hiiiighly doubt its faster. In the world of MW it was fast, but like you said CW guns are faster. Also the mac10 is usable. The Rogue with 4 rounds, with buckshot? Hell to the no. That's asking for trouble lol
Great callback to Ace's video on movement speed. These stats are what makes the MAC feel so comfy, even as the FFAR just overpowers its TTK. Being slippery & quick comes in handy so often depending on your playstyle.
I’ve used the max movement speed Milano and it’s surprisingly decent. The task force barrel doesn’t affect the recoil because there is none and in combination with the raider stock, you just take off when firing and strafing. My build was agency suppressor, task force barrel, raider stock, bruiser grip, and tiger team flashlight. I used this in mainly duos with one of my friends and it’s a ton of fun. For reference of how fast the max sprint speed (swap bruiser for patrol grip) Milano/Mac 10 is, you can tac sprint slide cancel faster than the train...
The only thing good about rebirth is I don’t think they have sbmm. I have a 1.42 in regular warzone. Somehow a 3.90 in rebirth, I feel like a lot of the people who play rebirth just are bad. I usually play just regular BR
@@AD-bd9nx i think it does have sbmm. Its that not many people play as much as regular warzone. So the skill gap is bigger in rebirth. If they kept it smaller then it might take forever to find a match.
I was wondering this too as I thought they'd fixed the grips (maybe naive!) and the striker grip is the one that's meant to help movement speed and hip fire, not the patrol grip - but TGD website has the patrol as helping movement/hipfire with the striker grip apparently doing nothing. Odd!
@Dark Harmony good shout - I’ve just done that. Ok, so the patrol increases sprint speed 6.2% and the bruiser increases sprint and general movement speed by 3.5%.
One time I won gulag and it dropped me outside the 1st zone in Farmland, my whole team lost gulag and so as the zone closed our teams survival depended on me dropping the guns I had looted and running a half marathon with my fists out from Farmland ALL the way to the middle of Downtown. We were laughing the whole time as vehicles along the way kept getting taken and the gas was literally on my ass every second of the way. Easily one of the most memorable games ever
This video is very important information to me. thank you very much. By the way, there is news. In season3, the movement speed of "QBZ-83" was buffed. Please investigate again.
Oddly enough, I just set my PR last night running PKM/MAC10 in a trios win. Used the mac for most movement/pushing/etc. Used the pkm to beam at range. Very very strong off-meta build.
@truegamedata can you also do a short video on fastest/slowest moving gas, especially as it pertains to which circle you're on and whether you're on the fast or slow side of the circle? Would be interesting to compare with movement speed to see what you should expect to be able to outrun.
I would be curious where bullfrog is on this list. I don't remember my exact build off the top of my head but my friends always asking how I'm running so fast and it feels really fast as well.
In my opinion, a nice way to balance the extended fast mags is, instead of too much ads penalty, just one or two frames at 60 FPS and slow down the movement speed by 1% or 2%. The way it is now, extended fast mags are not a good option, I believe.
I used to like AMAX with ranger as my primary AR but I feel like it has some of the sloppiest, sluggish movement of any AR and couldn't take it anymore
The little snub nose magnums are pretty fast in akimbo. I’ve never used them any other way. The QBZ had the fastest strafe other than a knife before the last update. (Way faster than the FFAR) I don’t think that’s the case anymore, but we’re testing it again to be sure.
Out of curiosity, since i remembered the mg34 being the slowest base gun, i went to your site and kitted that out and was able to get an even slower movement speed than the pkm
I have been using almost exactly that mac 10 build except the task force barrel instead of suppressor (for the strafe speed snd better bullet velocity too). And its really good but mostly just very fun to use.
Even more GREAT news, I find out that they gliched: 6 round slug mag(now there is 8 rounds in it) and merc rorgrip(i cant describe so just check it urself😂)on model 680
Saw a post the Mac in Reddit a few days ago. I guess Tony also spends time in there :). Thanks a lot of the additional info tho, always wondered which is the fastest gun to run with!
Try QBZ with Raider, Ultralight Barrel, Tiger Team and SpeedGrip. You will laugh how fast your firing move strafe speed is you're essentially ice skating since it's the highest mobility AR stacked with 4 strafe attachments.
Gonna toot my own horn and say that I’ve been rocking the speedy MAC10 build since they fixed the CW attachments. It never really needed the recoil mitigation.
I really have been enjoying the dual magnums with agency,snub nose, 12 round, akimbo and embersight and have found them feeling very Fast overall. Have you tested them and do you have any suggestions?
Hey man I would really appreciate it if you could recheck the FAL in multiplayer. I'm not too sure why, but I've been getting lots of tripple hit markers and no kills against people who are around 5-15 meters away, is it my network or did the FAL get a change?
Does it even make sense to maintain the website if changes happen so quickly and mostly unexpected? I have been checking the website and it is still incomplete since Cold War integration. Not sure if it’s possible to keep up. 3/4 of attachments are not present on the website.
A better setup for players who don’t care about being suppressed use the task force barrel then the tiger team spot light the raider stock the patrol grip then the 53 round drum
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Something a little different in the pinned comment today. My friend Kristina (twitch.tv/iamgamergrille) has been helping build TGD since day 1 in May of last year and she doesn't get as much credit as she deserves for all her work on truegamedata.com. She is trying to move into full time streaming + TGD work and is on the edge of getting partnered on Twitch, if you have any interest in her stream, go check her out - she is live right now at twitch.tv/iamgamergrille playing games with me and others.
She is fun to watch too
Gonna go watch her for sure. But one question, what happens to the uzi, thought it was fast?
Kristina is one of the best. Check her out y'all, well worth a follow on Twitch.
How slow is the Jak12 with Marauder, longest barrel, 32 mag and Commando
You didn't try the vlk rouge
Its my speed build with breacher device and heavey hitter and the 3 speed increase attachments
I havent had the chance to look and compare, but the VLK Rogue has insane speed as well with it's speed attachments.
It's so fast
Im pretty sure if the rogue was faster than the mac he wouldve specified it so i'll take his word for it
@@Number2Vaderfan it's not faster, no one said that. But I suspect it should be on that list
I actually forgot to check shotties because I didn't think any would be as fast. All the CW guns are a lot faster than the MW guns in sprint speed so I doubt the VLK is faster, but I will check and pin it if it is!
@@TrueGameData Yea I hiiiighly doubt its faster. In the world of MW it was fast, but like you said CW guns are faster.
Also the mac10 is usable. The Rogue with 4 rounds, with buckshot? Hell to the no. That's asking for trouble lol
Last time I was this early, warzone wasn't a broken game and was quite fun to play
ah so you’re early for the first time ever
breh its been broken since day one especially the visibility and bullshit server issues
You won comment of the day
@@kylebisbano7359 O caca
@@AmbivalentActuality yes, but much more playable and enjoyable, not nearly as broken as now
That PKM still looks faster than that Mac10 on console FOV.
Lmao On Me
Console fov is like 30 😂
@@KD23Tutorials i know XD
@@reflextaze419 console fov is -69 wdym...
@@ghostly9548 joke...
now i really wanna see what 2 players look like when one is walking with the mac 10 move build and one with the pkm slow build
or mac 10 vs train
@@hecker5556 you can keep pace with the train with fists out, so you might just be able to catch it with the fast mac10
@@Azzdude you can’t keep pace, you’re just behind with fists
@@sunwooooooo you can if you slide cancel and tac sprint.
Cod logic : *RUNNING WITH GUN IS FASTER THAN RUNNING BAREHANDED*
2 pistolwhips can down you faster than 2 bullets
Flashlight → speed of light obviously
@@Den0minator 200 iq
@@mpkhulk 2 punches can down you faster than 2 bullets🤣🤣
@nothing It’s not that serious
I still don’t understand how a grip can increase movement speed while removing the stock will only help sprint out time
Raven software logic.
@@Cause023 is more like treyarch logic, raven tries to make the gun feel the same as CW
Great callback to Ace's video on movement speed.
These stats are what makes the MAC feel so comfy, even as the FFAR just overpowers its TTK. Being slippery & quick comes in handy so often depending on your playstyle.
Yeah I'm going to try this mac 10 build. Trying to move around like JoeWo
Agreed, recently re-built the mac10 for speed and its so fast
ADS Strafing on the FFAR is slippery as all hell.
Thing is the ffar has a much higher ttk because of open bolt delay
Man, I remember when the no stock, mini barrel + merc foregrip uzi was the fastest running speed lol.
I’ve used the max movement speed Milano and it’s surprisingly decent. The task force barrel doesn’t affect the recoil because there is none and in combination with the raider stock, you just take off when firing and strafing. My build was agency suppressor, task force barrel, raider stock, bruiser grip, and tiger team flashlight. I used this in mainly duos with one of my friends and it’s a ton of fun.
For reference of how fast the max sprint speed (swap bruiser for patrol grip) Milano/Mac 10 is, you can tac sprint slide cancel faster than the train...
This would be great for Rebirth! You should squad up with BearPig and both run this together!
The only thing good about rebirth is I don’t think they have sbmm. I have a 1.42 in regular warzone. Somehow a 3.90 in rebirth, I feel like a lot of the people who play rebirth just are bad. I usually play just regular BR
@@AD-bd9nx i think it does have sbmm. Its that not many people play as much as regular warzone. So the skill gap is bigger in rebirth. If they kept it smaller then it might take forever to find a match.
My sprint speed to get to my PC to watch this video was 9m/s FYI. I was holding a ham sandwich.
With Plastic Serpent Wrap and a torch on the plate?
It unleashed the power of bacon.
fists: im the fastest!
Mac10: hold my flashlight!
Warzone is the only game where running with a machine pistol with a 50 round drum mag is faster than running unarmed
Any numbers on patrol vs striker grip, and patrol grip vs tiger team in terms of what gives more movespeed %? Appreciate the hard work as always man!
I was wondering this too as I thought they'd fixed the grips (maybe naive!) and the striker grip is the one that's meant to help movement speed and hip fire, not the patrol grip - but TGD website has the patrol as helping movement/hipfire with the striker grip apparently doing nothing. Odd!
@Dark Harmony good shout - I’ve just done that. Ok, so the patrol increases sprint speed 6.2% and the bruiser increases sprint and general movement speed by 3.5%.
One time I won gulag and it dropped me outside the 1st zone in Farmland, my whole team lost gulag and so as the zone closed our teams survival depended on me dropping the guns I had looted and running a half marathon with my fists out from Farmland ALL the way to the middle of Downtown. We were laughing the whole time as vehicles along the way kept getting taken and the gas was literally on my ass every second of the way. Easily one of the most memorable games ever
This video is very important information to me.
thank you very much.
By the way, there is news.
In season3, the movement speed of "QBZ-83" was buffed.
Please investigate again.
Cool video, I’d like to see fastest strafe speed builds in the same format
+1 for this. I miss the old FFAR strafe speed and would like to relive those days.
Best strafe gun in the game is the QBZ bar none. Try it with Tiger Team, Ultralight, and Raider/SAS.
Oddly enough, I just set my PR last night running PKM/MAC10 in a trios win. Used the mac for most movement/pushing/etc. Used the pkm to beam at range. Very very strong off-meta build.
Wonder how the Max Mobility VLK Rogue would compare on this List?
Edit: Answered on Stream, 7 m/s
I’ve been running the Mack 10 like that for a while. It used to have the mobility over flow the graph.
I've been using this build on the MAC-10 since they made the change to the flashlights & grips to increase movement speed. It is so much fun!
Same bro but now everybody knows about it
@truegamedata can you also do a short video on fastest/slowest moving gas, especially as it pertains to which circle you're on and whether you're on the fast or slow side of the circle? Would be interesting to compare with movement speed to see what you should expect to be able to outrun.
If you build this with the bruiser grip instead of patrol to get a little more hip fire spread how much would it hurt your movement?
Gotta go fast
Yes
Yes yes
Yes yes yes
At 1:50 which 1911 has 7.27 m/s movement speed, the Modern Warfare one or the Cold War one?
Those max sprint speeds are nearly 17mph. That's fast as hell considering they're wearing full combat gear
great video. btw, how much faster is tactical sprint vs regular sprint?
I would be curious where bullfrog is on this list. I don't remember my exact build off the top of my head but my friends always asking how I'm running so fast and it feels really fast as well.
In my opinion, a nice way to balance the extended fast mags is, instead of too much ads penalty, just one or two frames at 60 FPS and slow down the movement speed by 1% or 2%. The way it is now, extended fast mags are not a good option, I believe.
@truegamedata can you catch the train with this Mac 10 build?
I just tested it in plundered You can!! You don’t even have to tac sprint or slide cancel however it makes catching up with the train much easier.
@@hiakvebsj thats actually clutch. thanks!
Wouldn't the information on the Mac-10 underbarrel Pistol Grip actually be from the Striker Grip?
i remember there was a way to build the mw uzi that made it way faster than fists, have u tested that one as well?
They nerfed the merc foregrip that added sprint speed now it takes it away, but before this the uzi was faster than fists
Thanks you I was trying to figure this out by trail and error yesterday
i use the fast single diamanti build when I get ghost off the rip. Being able to move that quick with the pistol and ghost is awesome.
The bruiser grip on the groza makes bunny hops smooth and ez too btw
Wait you were testing kali sticks vs mac 10? Yeah the mac was pretty fast tho lol
What about the QBZ...I fly with that gun...infiltrator grip, mounted flashlight...feels like flying
I just searched this yesterday and couldn’t find any good video. Thanks
Love the videos man they help so much!
I used to like AMAX with ranger as my primary AR but I feel like it has some of the sloppiest, sluggish movement of any AR and couldn't take it anymore
I was gonna tweet you asking about the fastest movement speed weapon and you’ve delivered anyway. Legend.
The little snub nose magnums are pretty fast in akimbo. I’ve never used them any other way. The QBZ had the fastest strafe other than a knife before the last update. (Way faster than the FFAR)
I don’t think that’s the case anymore, but we’re testing it again to be sure.
Glad you made this video. I had a feeling Mac 10 was the fastest weapon after using it but it’s good to know for sure
I actually run that PKM class except with VLK sight to troll at Rebirth. So much fun dumping bullets on people from BioLab!
Out of curiosity, since i remembered the mg34 being the slowest base gun, i went to your site and kitted that out and was able to get an even slower movement speed than the pkm
Should've included the MW MP5 too for comparison purposes since that thing in insane with hip-fire.
Idk if you've checked but the qbz is pretty fast maybe it's a good competitor
Speaking of shotguns, the model 680 slug 6r mags are broken in a weird way
I have been using almost exactly that mac 10 build except the task force barrel instead of suppressor (for the strafe speed snd better bullet velocity too). And its really good but mostly just very fun to use.
Even more GREAT news, I find out that they gliched: 6 round slug mag(now there is 8 rounds in it) and merc rorgrip(i cant describe so just check it urself😂)on model 680
Saw a post the Mac in Reddit a few days ago. I guess Tony also spends time in there :). Thanks a lot of the additional info tho, always wondered which is the fastest gun to run with!
True game data I neeed your advice what do you think is better m4 or m13 I have so many mixed opinions so I want you to decide for me please
Great job as always
Do the RPD it has a barrel that helps with forming movement speed it actually has a couple
Thanks TGD, just subbed
Fastest firing movement speed weapon. We need that next
Do you move slower if you have like a large secondary on your back? Such as the pkm.
Thanks for all the hardwork Tony You rock
I said it in chat on stream and I’ll say it again here: TrueGameData is a mad scientist. 👍🏽
I think you can make the Jak 12 and the Rytec slower than the pkm, since they have some pretty slow attachments.
Do Hipfire next. I really dislike ADSing in close combat
Perfect content man
What's the speed multiplier with dead silence? I imagine you become the flash if you have the MAC10 sprint build and activate dead silence
Can you update the website for data for tiger team spotlight? It says it adds/decreases nothing for the website
Hi, does the Striker Grip bring better hip fire or the Patrol Grip?
What an awesome video. This was a really fun one to watch!
I was zooming with this class. It felt like I was playing the game mode cranked lol
Do flash lights help illuminate rose skins? Like would they in theory help u find them if they're blending into the environment?
Yeah for sure, they actually work
idk why but for me the zrg is a literal hit marker machine. I never get this many hit markers with any of the other bolt action snipers
is it still valid ?? i mean sprinting built
There is a mini vlk rogue build with crazy movement speed
Nice angle. Very very interesting. Look 4ward to the full table. Well done to u n kristina
Try QBZ with Raider, Ultralight Barrel, Tiger Team and SpeedGrip. You will laugh how fast your firing move strafe speed is you're essentially ice skating since it's the highest mobility AR stacked with 4 strafe attachments.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they change the Melee weapons to have a longer sprint time making them faster than any weapon
Gonna toot my own horn and say that I’ve been rocking the speedy MAC10 build since they fixed the CW attachments. It never really needed the recoil mitigation.
I really have been enjoying the dual magnums with agency,snub nose, 12 round, akimbo and embersight and have found them feeling very
Fast overall. Have you tested them and do you have any suggestions?
Hey man I would really appreciate it if you could recheck the FAL in multiplayer. I'm not too sure why, but I've been getting lots of tripple hit markers and no kills against people who are around 5-15 meters away, is it my network or did the FAL get a change?
switch your agency sup to task force barrel for maximum mobility
Is tactical sprint affected by weapon loadout? Or is tactical sprint the same value no matter what?
When you up your sprint speed does that apply to tac sprint
I gonna try this meta next time i play 😂
Thanks for the data.
Does using akimbo pistols negatively affect movement speed?
sorry but wich one underbarrel we have to use, the third one or fourth?
I saw this class on Reddit before this video
Does it even make sense to maintain the website if changes happen so quickly and mostly unexpected? I have been checking the website and it is still incomplete since Cold War integration. Not sure if it’s possible to keep up. 3/4 of attachments are not present on the website.
Noti gang 🔥🔥
That actually seems like a really decent loadout funnily enough
Do you slide further if you have high sprint speed?
Interesting topic! Thanks for sharing :)
Think you'll do an update tier list? Since you last did that the dropped all the coldwar guns
I slap the movement attachments on the spas and just skate through rebirth island. Actually a lot of fun
did you test the uzi with full mobility attachments? its the fastest in mw mp so maybe it translates to wz
when you have time, what is the fastest shooting strafe speed?
A better setup for players who don’t care about being suppressed use the task force barrel then the tiger team spot light the raider stock the patrol grip then the 53 round drum
Does the Mac-10 fast mag still reload around the same time as the regular 53 drum? Or did they fix that
Another great video Tony!
Did you ever end up checking headshot box for the new sniper?
I’m interested where the max speed vlk rogue places on the list, I know it’s at least faster than kali sticks
and the little vlk rogue ? I thought that the vlk with all little attachments was the fastest gun
Nope this build is the fastest, he has it pinned.