I totally agree with you. Bran caused everything! He is the true villain. How else could one explain his two quotes in the end “why do you think I came all this way” and “you were exactly where you were supposed to be”. He played (orchestrated) the game far better than Littlefinger and Varys ever could
This is what is known as "Hegelian Dialectic" and we have had this COUNTLESS times in fantasy like LotR and Harry Potter and sci-fi like SW. And this principle is MUCH older.
@@saymyname2417 no, like not at all, Hegelian dialectics is a way of viewing history that when two sides come into conflict it produces a result influenced by both sides, its a philosophical way of viewing history not a writing thing
I agree wholeheartedly with your belief that Bran is the villain, manipulating events to make himself the king of the six kingdoms - and Sansa queen of of the north. My only quibble is characterizing the Night King as trying to save humanity from Bran. Rather, I think the Night King was also evil, and wanted to reign over Westeros, but recognized Bran as his greatest foe in achieving this goal. And Bran bested him. The others were merely pawns in their game.
Another weak point is how can night king die in one stab still shocked and confuesd he seems like a comedy to me like how he died so easily being a main villan
Or Bran and the Night King are both Avatars for the Great Other. It was all a rouse. It was a distraction to get Bran on the Throne. Remember the Night King just looks at Bran and they just stare without emotions at each other.
@@guitarboy0211 Your bad joke does not show anything about the original show, just your lame sense of humour. I respect your opinion of the show. Although that also is just an opinion and not a fact.
@@Jack432-c6t It's not my joke. I'm not trying to insult you or anything, I'm just trying to convey what the original commenter was trying to convey through his comment.
Don’t forget Bran also told his “stories” to Tyrion in episode 2 after war council at WF. Thats the only reson Tyrion proposed him for a King. He played them all! Biggest player in GoT
I don’t know if I agree with this theory, but I did have one huge reservation about Bran being named king: if he goes mad it would literally be impossible to usurp him. Even the likes of Tyrion, Varys, and Littlefinger would be unable to plot against someone who could easily witness their treachery from anywhere in the world. To add to that, the previous Three-Eyed Raven existed for hundreds of years (iirc), so, assuming it’d be the same for Bran, you’d have a king who could see anything, anywhere, at any time, AND can’t die naturally. That’s a recipe for a Dark Lord right there. Bran could become a lot like Sauron. Game of Thrones could be a Lord of the Rings prequel.
Great points, but I always thought the secret to the 3-eyed Raven's very long life was tree-related as in him literally and physically fused to a tree or the roots of a tree and then living as long as a redwood or ginkgo tree. Bran may not have long-life while bound to a wheelchair. His lifespan may be human-like and not tree-like.
Dark Lord exactly and Bran three eyed raven fits the bill perfectly. Remember he had no empathy for Jojen's sister once he was back at WF, used and abused them. He couldn't care any less about her brother dying for him. I knew he was evil right then.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain. Starks who died were heroes and the Starks who lived through all the 8 seasons became the villains
@@geordiejaygaming2878 yes John. With the exception of a few, most wanted John executed for killing who they thought was the rightful heir to the throne.
I rarely bother with GOT videos anymore, but yours are worth watching, and this is also my feeling - that Bran is the ultimate villain. Whatever gave anyone the idea the Three Eyed Raven was on the side of good rather than evil? Why were the White Walkers so bent on destroying him, and the Children Of the Forest ( the ones that created them)? That’s not Bran, anyway, he is possessed by whatever it is that formerly possessed Brynden Rivers.
Also is it really a coincidence they went south as soon as Bran did? If they wanted to destroy humanity, they would have passed the wall a long time ago
Exactly ! I never understood either noone ever noticed that among the 'ok tv serie ending fans'!..so enormous...and the final Tyrion 'genius character' major mistake ...enormous one like after the crypt, his incapacity to see Daenaris turn coming, etc.... but seriously, that 'Three Eyed Raven'..at the very least, it can be considered like a true neutral 'druid'/pre(post?!)human entity or some sort (in real Dungeon&D lore..)....maybe not 'evil', but at the very least pure absolute 'neutral', and sure not really a human spirit from the start (never really precised by GRR Martin anyway..apparently..his ultimate final trick planned?..or not..maybe just exactly what he wanted..his final 'hidden' message too..)...means, potentially a total disaster for human race still alive.....vaguely remembering me the 'Justice' character in the Dragon Age(2) videogames series.....talking about 'righteous' possession....and that's the one genius tyrion 'understood so well'.... and put on the final throne..well played, well played, again... ) not a single character salvaged, apart 'superpowers' SJW arya maybe...even the now traitorous Bronn rewarded (again by tyrion..)..even possible to become archmaster(?) without training etc now, in the new world (as long as you are blindly loyal to the new king apparently..)...and no one answering when the new King propose to simply send ravens to locate the missing dragon....pre total Surveillance society in the 'middle ages'...all good!.... at the very least!...on par with what is happening right now in our world, just kinda in advance and symbolically....progressive (no need to be 'strong' anymore..nor 'old'(arya), 'male'(sensa, Brienne of Tarth..), nor even 'moral' (Bronn..)...and an all seeing leader/government to check the population/dissidents at any times....geniuses D&D... as if they were agreeing metaphorically, actually....their hidden message in plain sight?... and if that was an evil in itself....then that is a very familiar evil..one we will have to face more&more for sure in the agenda2030 world...here&now..'geniuses D&D'..hidden message in plain sight actually, maybe..... ; * //
sunset002007 I also loved that nonsence with Bronn becoming one of the most powerful people just cause he threatened to kill him. Literally any cut throat could have done it. And Tyrion also made him master of coin!!?? The guy who doesn’t know what the loan is and Tyrion had to explain it to him in season 4. Also, the King doesn’t have influence on the Citadel, so how is Sam the grand Maester when he didn’t even become a maester.. D&D are insulting our Intelligence at this point
How I still wish seeing how the Three Eyed Raven possess minds and enter beings was responsible for Daenerys character to crack and set the city ablaze. The Ice King would have been an enlightened person who foresaw the future and tried to stop this. He was after all a human before he was transformed… Jon being deported conveniently after his role all would fit to the otherwise horrible scripting of the last season. It would also open up a possibility for a future season of realisation and retaliation where Jon, king of true North returns just like the Ice King to claim his throne from the true monster. How I still wish….
"It would also open up a possibility for a future season of realisation and retaliation where Jon, king of true North returns just like the Ice King to claim his throne from the true monster." I came back to this video after seeing the report that Kit Harrington is attached to a potential GOT sequel. I don't want to get my hopes up, but I'd love for a sequel to play out this way. I liked the evil Bran theories back when they were circulating before the show even ended. If done right, I think they could transform that bad ending into a really interesting sequel.
If you watch the finale with the idea Bran is the evil mastermind it all clicks. Also the foreshadowed visions he had of kings landing and drogon only cement this theory into the factual domain. The "idea" is actually brilliant and I have no qualms with it at all, but as you pointed out the execution was abysmal. Imagine 10 seasons and a deep dive into the true evil of the 3ER... It could have been so damn good.
Another thing that makes no sense is that white walker looking right in Sam's eyes and letting him live. Unless the 3ER was warging into him at the time. Sam was allowed to live because Sam had the 3ER's work to do in future.
All true-in the context of the bad writing of the show. The stark contradiction between “I can never be the lord of anything” and “Why do you think I came all this way” is evidence of this. Bran might still become king in the books, but the journey to it will be different.
I was thinking the same thing! Bran REPEATEDLY stated he was not a Lord, Could Never be Lord of anything.... Sooo...how did he pull off being KING!? I think he was playing humble like he didn't WANT it, but would accept..😒
Part of the manipulation, Bran pretending he didn't want the crown when really did but said that to someone knowing it would be used by that specific person as part of a list of criteria to make him king. Bran can deceive.
Season 9. Daenerys awakens in a Red temple in Asshai with no memory because she was dead for weeks. Follow her as she makes her was back to being a queen. Drogon lays eggs but dies from poisoning. Etc...
Good video, but I’m still so upset. Up to the last season it was the best series I’ve ever watched. An amazing show that was turned to shit by Dan and Dave.
I think the night king was a pawn in three eyed Raven's plot ...as it is the children of the forest themselves created white walkers ...three eyed raven is the old god of North whose power was reduced by the waves of conquerors ...the first men and largely by Andals... and by Targaryen conquerors who are godlike themselves... and the three eyed crow plotted in elimination of the dragonlords ... especially with the Stark aid... the Starks are portrayed as the heroes of the story and we all know that heroes in a story wins...and Bran Stark is the vessel of three eyed crow...so in the end three eyed crow becomes the eternal king of Westeros who only needs to change the vessel when the bodies get old...
I think Bran allowed this to happen as this was the best possibility. Any thing else would have been way more disastrous for the present as well as the future.
I like to think this headcanon is actually true because it can explain all the explaination-less things done with the show in the final few episodes. "Why did Dany burn down kings landing?" Bran orchestrated her decent into madness "why did bran say he couldn't be the lord of anything and is now the lord of the seven kingdoms?" Bran was lying through his ass. Not ideal obviously but better than all the unanswered questions and questionable answers
What if the three eyes raven controls the “faceless men” organization and bran/ Three eyed raven trained aria so she would be prepared to kill the night king and any threats in “the starks”/ three eyed ravens way.
As a fan of Dune I firmly became convinced of this from the minute Hold the Door happened. My theory is that D&D rushed the outline with none of the set up and, should the books actually be released, the actual "game" (fight for control of the Iron Throne) will be forgotten in favor of fighting the Night King, which will hijack the plot and it'll seem like the game which drove most of the plot wasn't really important and only got in the way of the true threat. A bit unsatisfying but it makes sense. Then Martin would throw this at us in the final pages, showing that everything is Bran's doing and while everyone, including the audience, forgot about the game, they more or less played into Brandon Stark's hands.
He can. He is like an evil version of Dr. Strange. If you remember Endgame then note that Dr. Strange could see multiple possible futures and then worked for the one where Thanos is defeated. Also Bran is not neutral in events. Without Bran pushing Jon's linage at key moments things would not have taken the path they did.
Dude, for this clip....for me you have become a LEGEND!!! You just proved to me that in this world we can find people who think just like us on certain things....regardless the religion, nationality, gender or any other things!!! BRAVO!!! Bran really is the ultimate villain!!!
And also in the last scene during Bran's small council meeting before leaving when Tyrion said that he was sure the greetings will get better then Bran replied I am sure it will
Bran may not be a good guy, but he is not The Bad Guy. If you think Danerys was good, then you dont know the storyline very well. She went mad because....well, its a family trait actually. Has happened to many of them. Bran, by the qoutes, can see it all, but is not really suppose to change things. Danny was not a "good" person, so let's not pretend she was. She did what her ancestors always did, she went mad.
We should have taken the hint that the 3ER was evil from Osha. When a young Bran asked her what they say about the 3ER beyond the Wall, she replied, "Nothing good." 👈
Also remember he ordered OSHA and rickon to depart from him before going beyond the wall. They both died. Not sure how powerful his visions were then but worth noticing.
Great video! This makes me wonder if the Children created the Night King as a way to attack the three eyed raven, a human (or perhaps a human ~type) villain whose human goals for power came at the expense of anything. What if the Night King isn’t the ultimate evil, but a tool gone awry to attack a type of being with too much power and not enough morals that they will sacrifice the natural world and countless lives to reinforce the power their lineage entitles them to (The first 3er Rivers being a Targaryen, Bran being a Stark). It seems that Bran could manipulate his family-why couldn’t he manipulate the Children as well? Anyway, I’m rambling. Great video!
Adding to this, I think it was the three eyed raven who did incite the first men to attack the children and the giants, since he had issues with them. Maybe night king knew this and turned against the raven instead.
Season 8 still annoys me. Also by Jon killing Danny and then sending Jon north ends the Targaryens forever which was disappointing. I’d rather Jon had of had a child to Danny and her die just to keep the targaryen blood line going
I think the three eyed raven is in opposition to the lord of light and that's the real game of thrones. If Danny gets brought back to contend bran it would make sense. Maybe it's really a competition between all these "gods"
Sequel plot can be Samwell tarly going to the Big library to read about previous 3 eyed ravens and realising bran's evil plan. Then hanging bran dead. Marrying Sansa. Sam and sansa's kids rule the 7 kingdoms
Bran saved the day from the White Walkers and the Night King though by "planting" the dagger in the Godswood, seeing his past/future self there, giving the dagger to Arya so she can kill the Night King because he can see that the Night King will be killed there with the dagger. He may have exchanged Night King's attack on King's Landing and entire continent potential deaths/apocalypse against Daenerys' torching of King's Landing deaths. Plus he knows he would become King and unify/appease the country by talking to Tyrion way before about his story. Because Bran knows the course of everything, it is safe to assume that he will make things happen a specific way in the books too so that he becomes King, not because he has a choice in the saying, but because he sees it happen.
There is only one timeline, and Bran is not altering it, he is a pawn and a slave to the future that he can see. He has no free will. Every action that he is making has already had/will have its consequences written, was it not been already cleared with Hodor?
Really late comment, but I have a weird theory for the show that Bran actually warged into Dany from the moment she burned King's Landing to the moment just before Jon stabbed her. Dany was too good and wouldn't burn the city down after apparent victory. I believe, after her death, Dany gets ressurected in Volantis... Maybe she could return to Westeros and expose Bran in some strange magical way. idk, but basically, it's all Bran's fault. lol
The ink is dry. Yes, he saw all of this, but only did what he had to do to bring about what was supposed to happen. He did not choose what would happen. And telling Dany anything would not have stopped her madness. She only would have used or killed him, thus securing that the wheel would survive.
May be be he was really Brendyn Rivers, who warged into Brandon’s body. Brendyn Rivers was the hand of the king. Maybe he thought it was time for him to be king.
I think this assessment is spot on given what we already know. Bran was dropping hints that he isn't human. A person void of emotions sits the iron throne.
Bran deserved to be the King….the Throne got his mom and dad killed viciously and no way he is gonna forget that.However he manipulated the game to be king don’t matter he became the Three Eyes Raven saw that the Regent Queen was more evil and conquered his enemies.Nice power play.
People only figuring it out now makes me sad. The thing he did to Hodor -> reminded of the Mad King anyone? You now, the thing that started it all? More Bran is evil stuff: He also didnt mention that the 3eyed raven has a very, very long life span. They assume because the cannot have children, that the rain of his line will be short....ohh how mistaken they are. For fans of the books: Who do you think Brandon Stark the Builder is and Brandon Stark the Conquerer ;)
There is way more to this. It's not only what he did or not say, but every single event in the story of the series. He is the one that made it all. Bran is no less than a God in got, he talks to people in the past to make the present. He made Hodor, he made the mad king, and the mad queen too. My point is this is not only season 8. This is every single thing that happens, happens with the premise that Bran wants it to happen. So yeah, maybe he warged and killed the Baratheon king so that his father gets executed and start the chain of carefully directed events that leads to him getting the throne.
Interesting...always liked Herbert's Dune too and.... i never made the direct connection, but yes, you're right... kinda a similar thing !)) The main difference beeing we always not know exactly 'what' is the whole 'tree thing', even less its 'real' goal or even purpose (in the Martin's unfinished 'universe'..) .. even in the books from what i read.... could very well be an evil or revengeful 'entity'... a thing the 'genius' Thyrion once again totally misunderstood in tv s08 (T character 'smartness' destroyed in the tv show..) , possibly making one, If not the one, of all Thyrion's worst 'character appreciation' judgement!... The 'kwisack haderach' beeing just a sum of past memories and trully prescient (Spice abilities), but not necessarily evil in itself...and leto beeing even more powerful.. and destiny even worst.. but yes, interesting observation.... )
Could that be why there’s a Jon Snow show? To “kinda” continue the story since Bran is the final boss. It could be their way of trying to make season 8 look good, by making Bran the villain and making a Jon Snow show like a sequel instead of a season 9
Honestly Bran did die In the cave because The three eyed raven swapped their bodies and took his, Ramsay literally told you all "If you think This has a happy ending you clearly Haven't been paying attention" The Night king could Possess Thousands of dead bodies what made anyone think the three eyed raven couldn't perform similar abilities if the King of ice was Afraid of him more than The dragons or jon snow??
Or Maybe bran took you over and closed your eyes and mind when it was clearly shown in the episode that the old raven was killed by the night king. How would you contemplate this " I am no longer xyz I am king now " clearly king is a position just like 3 eyes raven.
The Best of the Aristocratic families seems to be the Starks and their bastards. Most of the villains were killed off with a few worthwhile people left such as Tyrion who is interested in being as fair as possible as long as he has what he needs.
It’s the world’s (children’s) collective memory. Preston Jacobs described this well many years ago per evidence in George’s previous work. He explains it much better where D&D sadly failed beyond imagination.
You are right, of course, but the books will surely end (or continue) in a very different direction. Having Bran become the most ironic king-villain was likely a way to "wrap it up" most unpredictably for David and Dan who desperately wanted out. It was appropriate for that reason only. Once George R. R. Martin finishes the books (or passes away), some company will completely remake the series close(r) to his marvelous books, and we will all be happy(er).
When you accept bran stark Is Dead And The person Who Is The Role model for both melisandre and Euron Greyjoy is In control of his body, A Disappointing Ending Soon transforms into the creepiest way a show can end
I don't think this was intended but is a good explanation. The real game of thrones was three-eyed raven vs the night king. I would go even further and this being the big conflict from the start of the show and the whole "lord of light" was also just a manipulation. And is it good vs evil or evil vs evil or just power play should be left to the audience to decide. Also funny thing is white walkers army didn't attack the wall and went south until three-eyed raven escaped to south in body of Bran lol Maybe there would be no war if he stayed there. It makes sense with assumptions that in ancient war there was a stalemate and some sort of deal brokered.
Not and not, because he manipulated everything to be king, he didn't care about anything, only himself, he could've done the same more gently and use his power to help them, instead he chose to use them all only to become king. He let millions of people die, he knew it and he said nothing, he only said the things that could benefit him. He is the greater villain in GTO.
Honestly D&D failed most with “Bran.” One quick scene in the finale showing Bloodraven & the children manipulated events through “Bran” would have vastly altered the majority of opinions.
I think the 3 eyed raven told the children how to make the white walkers. Thats why the night king is coming for him. Maybe killing the 3 eyed raven is the only way to undo the curse.
And also plz remember that the Knight King’s vision was to destroy the memory of the world meaning that the only way he could be able to do that was to kill/eliminate someone who was it so he could plant a new root and rule forever it’s a calculated mechanism that works even with people, you want to destroy people first take away their pride which is basically built on past and present by changing how they think or look at themselves!
Because Bran was this cute little innocent kid I feel like people don’t really realize how evil he became once his consciousness was consumed by Bloodraven. Idk why people seem to assume he’d be a good king simply cause he can see the future. We’ve seen already he orchestrates terrible events just to benefit himself.
Bran isn't God tho so he can't change past or future he knows everything but it's not his will to change future/people's fate. So he just let all of these happen. I idea you brought up here is really nice but Bran being a three eyed raven doesn't mean he can change someone's fate by his will. So Bran isn't the villian here
I totally agree with you. Bran caused everything! He is the true villain. How else could one explain his two quotes in the end “why do you think I came all this way” and “you were exactly where you were supposed to be”. He played (orchestrated) the game far better than Littlefinger and Varys ever could
This is not Game of thrones any more....This is the ultimate "GAME OF BRAN"..and he won in his own game
This is not Game of thrones any more....This is the ultimate "GAME OF BRAN"..and he won in his own game
This is what is known as "Hegelian Dialectic" and we have had this COUNTLESS times in fantasy like LotR and Harry Potter and sci-fi like SW. And this principle is MUCH older.
@@saymyname2417 no, like not at all, Hegelian dialectics is a way of viewing history that when two sides come into conflict it produces a result influenced by both sides, its a philosophical way of viewing history not a writing thing
@@juwebles4352 - You don't understand the use of Hegelian Dialectics in the entertainment industry.
I agree wholeheartedly with your belief that Bran is the villain, manipulating events to make himself the king of the six kingdoms - and Sansa queen of of the north. My only quibble is characterizing the Night King as trying to save humanity from Bran. Rather, I think the Night King was also evil, and wanted to reign over Westeros, but recognized Bran as his greatest foe in achieving this goal. And Bran bested him. The others were merely pawns in their game.
I agree with you.
Another weak point is how can night king die in one stab still shocked and confuesd he seems like a comedy to me like how he died so easily being a main villan
That was the really game of thrones and Bran won
They are simply rivals over who will reign over lesser mortals.
Or Bran and the Night King are both Avatars for the Great Other. It was all a rouse. It was a distraction to get Bran on the Throne.
Remember the Night King just looks at Bran and they just stare without emotions at each other.
Ending we deserved:
*Ned wakes up at WF*
Seven hells! I had a terrible dream, Cat.
Would have been the lamest ending ever. Glad you did not write season 8.
@@Jack432-c6t It's a joke. Its meant to show how S8 ending was a joke in itself.
@@guitarboy0211 Your bad joke does not show anything about the original show, just your lame sense of humour. I respect your opinion of the show. Although that also is just an opinion and not a fact.
@@Jack432-c6t It's not my joke. I'm not trying to insult you or anything, I'm just trying to convey what the original commenter was trying to convey through his comment.
@@Jack432-c6t your too serious
Don’t forget Bran also told his “stories” to Tyrion in episode 2 after war council at WF. Thats the only reson Tyrion proposed him for a King. He played them all! Biggest player in GoT
Remember the days where we all thought Jojen seeing the flame in his hand actually meant something?
I don’t know if I agree with this theory, but I did have one huge reservation about Bran being named king: if he goes mad it would literally be impossible to usurp him. Even the likes of Tyrion, Varys, and Littlefinger would be unable to plot against someone who could easily witness their treachery from anywhere in the world. To add to that, the previous Three-Eyed Raven existed for hundreds of years (iirc), so, assuming it’d be the same for Bran, you’d have a king who could see anything, anywhere, at any time, AND can’t die naturally. That’s a recipe for a Dark Lord right there. Bran could become a lot like Sauron. Game of Thrones could be a Lord of the Rings prequel.
Great points, but I always thought the secret to the 3-eyed Raven's very long life was tree-related as in him literally and physically fused to a tree or the roots of a tree and then living as long as a redwood or ginkgo tree. Bran may not have long-life while bound to a wheelchair. His lifespan may be human-like and not tree-like.
Dark Lord exactly and Bran three eyed raven fits the bill perfectly. Remember he had no empathy for Jojen's sister once he was back at WF, used and abused them. He couldn't care any less about her brother dying for him. I knew he was evil right then.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain. Starks who died were heroes and the Starks who lived through all the 8 seasons became the villains
True
arya?
John?
@@geordiejaygaming2878 yes John. With the exception of a few, most wanted John executed for killing who they thought was the rightful heir to the throne.
@@annjenkins2677 she deserved to be killed.
I rarely bother with GOT videos anymore, but yours are worth watching, and this is also my feeling - that Bran is the ultimate villain. Whatever gave anyone the idea the Three Eyed Raven was on the side of good rather than evil? Why were the White Walkers so bent on destroying him, and the Children Of the Forest ( the ones that created them)? That’s not Bran, anyway, he is possessed by whatever it is that formerly possessed Brynden Rivers.
Also is it really a coincidence they went south as soon as Bran did? If they wanted to destroy humanity, they would have passed the wall a long time ago
100%
You’re god damn right
Exactly ! I never understood either noone ever noticed that among the 'ok tv serie ending fans'!..so enormous...and the final Tyrion 'genius character' major mistake ...enormous one like after the crypt, his incapacity to see Daenaris turn coming, etc.... but seriously, that 'Three Eyed Raven'..at the very least, it can be considered like a true neutral 'druid'/pre(post?!)human entity or some sort (in real Dungeon&D lore..)....maybe not 'evil', but at the very least pure absolute 'neutral', and sure not really a human spirit from the start (never really precised by GRR Martin anyway..apparently..his ultimate final trick planned?..or not..maybe just exactly what he wanted..his final 'hidden' message too..)...means, potentially a total disaster for human race still alive.....vaguely remembering me the 'Justice' character in the Dragon Age(2) videogames series.....talking about 'righteous' possession....and that's the one genius tyrion 'understood so well'.... and put on the final throne..well played, well played, again... ) not a single character salvaged, apart 'superpowers' SJW arya maybe...even the now traitorous Bronn rewarded (again by tyrion..)..even possible to become archmaster(?) without training etc now, in the new world (as long as you are blindly loyal to the new king apparently..)...and no one answering when the new King propose to simply send ravens to locate the missing dragon....pre total Surveillance society in the 'middle ages'...all good!.... at the very least!...on par with what is happening right now in our world, just kinda in advance and symbolically....progressive (no need to be 'strong' anymore..nor 'old'(arya), 'male'(sensa, Brienne of Tarth..), nor even 'moral' (Bronn..)...and an all seeing leader/government to check the population/dissidents at any times....geniuses D&D... as if they were agreeing metaphorically, actually....their hidden message in plain sight?... and if that was an evil in itself....then that is a very familiar evil..one we will have to face more&more for sure in the agenda2030 world...here&now..'geniuses D&D'..hidden message in plain sight actually, maybe..... ; * //
sunset002007 I also loved that nonsence with Bronn becoming one of the most powerful people just cause he threatened to kill him. Literally any cut throat could have done it. And Tyrion also made him master of coin!!?? The guy who doesn’t know what the loan is and Tyrion had to explain it to him in season 4. Also, the King doesn’t have influence on the Citadel, so how is Sam the grand Maester when he didn’t even become a maester.. D&D are insulting our Intelligence at this point
How I still wish seeing how the Three Eyed Raven possess minds and enter beings was responsible for Daenerys character to crack and set the city ablaze. The Ice King would have been an enlightened person who foresaw the future and tried to stop this. He was after all a human before he was transformed…
Jon being deported conveniently after his role all would fit to the otherwise horrible scripting of the last season.
It would also open up a possibility for a future season of realisation and retaliation where Jon, king of true North returns just like the Ice King to claim his throne from the true monster.
How I still wish….
"It would also open up a possibility for a future season of realisation and retaliation where Jon, king of true North returns just like the Ice King to claim his throne from the true monster."
I came back to this video after seeing the report that Kit Harrington is attached to a potential GOT sequel. I don't want to get my hopes up, but I'd love for a sequel to play out this way. I liked the evil Bran theories back when they were circulating before the show even ended. If done right, I think they could transform that bad ending into a really interesting sequel.
they can enter your dreams too, in the books
I think D&D were the biggest villains in the series.
Damn right!
Yes!!
What's D&D?
@@ayodeleawodeji822 Dan and Dave
@@billy2182who’s Dave ?
If you watch the finale with the idea Bran is the evil mastermind it all clicks. Also the foreshadowed visions he had of kings landing and drogon only cement this theory into the factual domain. The "idea" is actually brilliant and I have no qualms with it at all, but as you pointed out the execution was abysmal.
Imagine 10 seasons and a deep dive into the true evil of the 3ER... It could have been so damn good.
I can’t tell if this is a hidden fact that the writers intended or just bad writing that adds up to look like Bran being evil.
As a viewer YOU can see everything, not Bran
I know rite
Another thing that makes no sense is that white walker looking right in Sam's eyes and letting him live. Unless the 3ER was warging into him at the time. Sam was allowed to live because Sam had the 3ER's work to do in future.
If 3ER could warg into white walkers, why didn't he just warg into one of them and use it to destroy the night king?
Right like tff
What is a 3ER?
@@berryposh three eyed raven
I've been saying for years that Bran was the real baddy... Don't trust Bran...
It’s not Bran, it’s “Bran”
@@shannond7437 Hmmm 😳
GRRM PLANNED IT ALL
Facts! And it will be much better in the books! It will all make sense and not be rushed. Mark my words
Don't listen to the crows. They ALWAYS lie. bran is 100% the villain. Hands down
Yes bran tricked them, all crows are liers. Omg, I'm so happy to see you back!!!!.
Very good observation...i remember that line from Old Nan ...in season 1 , bran is a F**king evil tree🤦🏾♂️😂
The Three Eyed Raven did all that. But, he is not Bran. He is Bloodraven-still. He now rules the empire with a thousand eyes and one.
All true-in the context of the bad writing of the show. The stark contradiction between “I can never be the lord of anything” and “Why do you think I came all this way” is evidence of this. Bran might still become king in the books, but the journey to it will be different.
I was thinking the same thing!
Bran REPEATEDLY stated he was not a Lord, Could Never be Lord of anything....
Sooo...how did he pull off being KING!?
I think he was playing humble like he didn't WANT it, but would accept..😒
Part of the manipulation, Bran pretending he didn't want the crown when really did but said that to someone knowing it would be used by that specific person as part of a list of criteria to make him king. Bran can deceive.
Is Bran incapable of lying?
If bran becomes king it’s a ripoff of DUNE.
Season 9. Daenerys awakens in a Red temple in Asshai with no memory because she was dead for weeks. Follow her as she makes her was back to being a queen. Drogon lays eggs but dies from poisoning. Etc...
Season 9 released??
@@v.mohankumar8634 When drogon took her away, it left an open window. I think there'll be a season 9 and 10.
Okay, Im so happy that Fire And Blood is back but Im also happy to see you all guys here after so long! Hope you all are doing great :)
Good video, but I’m still so upset. Up to the last season it was the best series I’ve ever watched. An amazing show that was turned to shit by Dan and Dave.
Totally! Do you know that Netlix just gave D&D another very good books to adapt? I know I won’t be watching it..
Sophie Ema what that means we are going to have another season ?
@@thenightking6936 Seriously??? What book, tell us all so we too can boycott it.....
I think the night king was a pawn in three eyed Raven's plot ...as it is the children of the forest themselves created white walkers ...three eyed raven is the old god of North whose power was reduced by the waves of conquerors ...the first men and largely by Andals... and by Targaryen conquerors who are godlike themselves... and the three eyed crow plotted in elimination of the dragonlords ... especially with the Stark aid... the Starks are portrayed as the heroes of the story and we all know that heroes in a story wins...and Bran Stark is the vessel of three eyed crow...so in the end three eyed crow becomes the eternal king of Westeros who only needs to change the vessel when the bodies get old...
I think Bran allowed this to happen as this was the best possibility. Any thing else would have been way more disastrous for the present as well as the future.
I like to think this headcanon is actually true because it can explain all the explaination-less things done with the show in the final few episodes. "Why did Dany burn down kings landing?" Bran orchestrated her decent into madness "why did bran say he couldn't be the lord of anything and is now the lord of the seven kingdoms?" Bran was lying through his ass. Not ideal obviously but better than all the unanswered questions and questionable answers
It should have been the reveal at the end tbh and could hae easily set up spin off/prequels people would have actually been interested in
Bran reminds me of Griffith from Berserk. Both of them are willing to build up a pile of corpses to build the road to their shiny castle in the sky.
13:40 so D&D firstly wanted to wrap it up in even more rush..
Welcome back 😊 and I agree, Bran is the real villain and the NK was trying to save people from him.
Even his attire as king looks similar to the night king
whom ever writes season 9 needs to hire you cause this makes hella sense and would be a sigh that there is more to come other than that ending.
If they make this Canon the show can eventually make sense.
07:59 “kind of”
*PTSD kicks in*
What if the three eyes raven controls the “faceless men” organization and bran/ Three eyed raven trained aria so she would be prepared to kill the night king and any threats in “the starks”/ three eyed ravens way.
Perhaps the 3ER is their god of death.
I do not believe the Night King was wholly evil, I believe the Night King was the jailer of a corrupted three eyed raven.
In fact he went south only when brand did😂🤔
Not a bad point.
EXACTLY THIS. Bran played them all!
As a fan of Dune I firmly became convinced of this from the minute Hold the Door happened. My theory is that D&D rushed the outline with none of the set up and, should the books actually be released, the actual "game" (fight for control of the Iron Throne) will be forgotten in favor of fighting the Night King, which will hijack the plot and it'll seem like the game which drove most of the plot wasn't really important and only got in the way of the true threat. A bit unsatisfying but it makes sense.
Then Martin would throw this at us in the final pages, showing that everything is Bran's doing and while everyone, including the audience, forgot about the game, they more or less played into Brandon Stark's hands.
This makes Bran even more creepy in Season 7 and 8.
You assume Bran, being able to see the future, can change it.
He can. He is like an evil version of Dr. Strange. If you remember Endgame then note that Dr. Strange could see multiple possible futures and then worked for the one where Thanos is defeated. Also Bran is not neutral in events. Without Bran pushing Jon's linage at key moments things would not have taken the path they did.
Really amazing video! It opened my eyes to the truth. Bran really is the villain of Game of Thrones.
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Dude, for this clip....for me you have become a LEGEND!!! You just proved to me that in this world we can find people who think just like us on certain things....regardless the religion, nationality, gender or any other things!!! BRAVO!!! Bran really is the ultimate villain!!!
And also in the last scene during Bran's small council meeting before leaving when Tyrion said that he was sure the greetings will get better then Bran replied I am sure it will
Could there be season 9 or snow show to address this
Bran may not be a good guy, but he is not The Bad Guy. If you think Danerys was good, then you dont know the storyline very well. She went mad because....well, its a family trait actually. Has happened to many of them.
Bran, by the qoutes, can see it all, but is not really suppose to change things. Danny was not a "good" person, so let's not pretend she was. She did what her ancestors always did, she went mad.
Agree
Dany was triggered to madness when Cersei executed Missandei.
Drogon: Burns the Iron Throne
Bran: Don’t worry bro I will get my own chair.
We should have taken the hint that the 3ER was evil from Osha. When a young Bran asked her what they say about the 3ER beyond the Wall, she replied, "Nothing good." 👈
Also remember he ordered OSHA and rickon to depart from him before going beyond the wall. They both died. Not sure how powerful his visions were then but worth noticing.
Great video! This makes me wonder if the Children created the Night King as a way to attack the three eyed raven, a human (or perhaps a human ~type) villain whose human goals for power came at the expense of anything. What if the Night King isn’t the ultimate evil, but a tool gone awry to attack a type of being with too much power and not enough morals that they will sacrifice the natural world and countless lives to reinforce the power their lineage entitles them to (The first 3er Rivers being a Targaryen, Bran being a Stark). It seems that Bran could manipulate his family-why couldn’t he manipulate the Children as well? Anyway, I’m rambling. Great video!
Adding to this, I think it was the three eyed raven who did incite the first men to attack the children and the giants, since he had issues with them. Maybe night king knew this and turned against the raven instead.
Bran Stark is the Game of Thrones himself
The only reason I believe this is a coincidence and nothing more is because DyD are not good enough to writte this
Season 8 still annoys me. Also by Jon killing Danny and then sending Jon north ends the Targaryens forever which was disappointing. I’d rather Jon had of had a child to Danny and her die just to keep the targaryen blood line going
Ironically Daenerys and Jon having a child was foreshadowed, so anyone talkign up foreshadowing as an excuse for season 8 should think on that.
Yeah except Danny was told early in the show that she could never have a kid
Omnipresent is something that only the all high god has so basically the 3 eyed Raven is a God
I will never forgive the show for what they did to Daenerys...At the end, Bran and Sansa were the true villains for me...
YES! I agree with everything! Tyrion also kinda for betraying Dany and telling Jon to kill her
I agree
Agreed, I ending up hating the Starks in the end, even arya
I think the three eyed raven is in opposition to the lord of light and that's the real game of thrones. If Danny gets brought back to contend bran it would make sense. Maybe it's really a competition between all these "gods"
Sequel plot can be Samwell tarly going to the Big library to read about previous 3 eyed ravens and realising bran's evil plan. Then hanging bran dead. Marrying Sansa. Sam and sansa's kids rule the 7 kingdoms
at this point, these types of videos are just coping mechanisms. we all know the writers didnt have bran king for these reasons.
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Welcome back!
Its a whole welcome party here!!
Bran saved the day from the White Walkers and the Night King though by "planting" the dagger in the Godswood, seeing his past/future self there, giving the dagger to Arya so she can kill the Night King because he can see that the Night King will be killed there with the dagger. He may have exchanged Night King's attack on King's Landing and entire continent potential deaths/apocalypse against Daenerys' torching of King's Landing deaths. Plus he knows he would become King and unify/appease the country by talking to Tyrion way before about his story. Because Bran knows the course of everything, it is safe to assume that he will make things happen a specific way in the books too so that he becomes King, not because he has a choice in the saying, but because he sees it happen.
There is only one timeline, and Bran is not altering it, he is a pawn and a slave to the future that he can see. He has no free will. Every action that he is making has already had/will have its consequences written, was it not been already cleared with Hodor?
All of a sudden, he can see the future.
Back is FAB
We all are! Its a whole reunion here
THANK YOU for articulating so convincingly what I've long suspected.
Bran knew what he was doing,coz he could see the pass and present and the future
Really late comment, but I have a weird theory for the show that Bran actually warged into Dany from the moment she burned King's Landing to the moment just before Jon stabbed her. Dany was too good and wouldn't burn the city down after apparent victory.
I believe, after her death, Dany gets ressurected in Volantis... Maybe she could return to Westeros and expose Bran in some strange magical way. idk, but basically, it's all Bran's fault. lol
The ink is dry. Yes, he saw all of this, but only did what he had to do to bring about what was supposed to happen. He did not choose what would happen. And telling Dany anything would not have stopped her madness. She only would have used or killed him, thus securing that the wheel would survive.
May be be he was really Brendyn Rivers, who warged into Brandon’s body. Brendyn Rivers was the hand of the king. Maybe he thought it was time for him to be king.
I think this assessment is spot on given what we already know. Bran was dropping hints that he isn't human. A person void of emotions sits the iron throne.
Bran deserved to be the King….the Throne got his mom and dad killed viciously and no way he is gonna forget that.However he manipulated the game to be king don’t matter he became the Three Eyes Raven saw that the Regent Queen was more evil and conquered his enemies.Nice power play.
People only figuring it out now makes me sad. The thing he did to Hodor -> reminded of the Mad King anyone? You now, the thing that started it all?
More Bran is evil stuff: He also didnt mention that the 3eyed raven has a very, very long life span. They assume because the cannot have children, that the rain of his line will be short....ohh how mistaken they are.
For fans of the books: Who do you think Brandon Stark the Builder is and Brandon Stark the Conquerer ;)
bran didn't tell anyone who pushed him, but willing to tell jon secret of his mother.
those truth were the reason bran became the king
There is way more to this. It's not only what he did or not say, but every single event in the story of the series.
He is the one that made it all. Bran is no less than a God in got, he talks to people in the past to make the present. He made Hodor, he made the mad king, and the mad queen too.
My point is this is not only season 8. This is every single thing that happens, happens with the premise that Bran wants it to happen. So yeah, maybe he warged and killed the Baratheon king so that his father gets executed and start the chain of carefully directed events that leads to him getting the throne.
That's exactly what I thought as soon as the episode was over blood Raven is the king not Bran Stark
Really good video mate! Can’t wait for next
In Dune parlance, Bran is the Kwizatz Haderach.
Interesting...always liked Herbert's Dune too and.... i never made the direct connection, but yes, you're right... kinda a similar thing !)) The main difference beeing we always not know exactly 'what' is the whole 'tree thing', even less its 'real' goal or even purpose (in the Martin's unfinished 'universe'..) .. even in the books from what i read.... could very well be an evil or revengeful 'entity'... a thing the 'genius' Thyrion once again totally misunderstood in tv s08 (T character 'smartness' destroyed in the tv show..) , possibly making one, If not the one, of all Thyrion's worst 'character appreciation' judgement!... The 'kwisack haderach' beeing just a sum of past memories and trully prescient (Spice abilities), but not necessarily evil in itself...and leto beeing even more powerful.. and destiny even worst.. but yes, interesting observation.... )
Even if he is the ultimate villain, the ending is weird where the power is transferred at the end of the series in the hand of evil power.
Could that be why there’s a Jon Snow show? To “kinda” continue the story since Bran is the final boss. It could be their way of trying to make season 8 look good, by making Bran the villain and making a Jon Snow show like a sequel instead of a season 9
What do you mean hand of evil power?
GRRM should of gone to HBO and lobbied for new producers after season 7’s downhill debacle saving the series and getting his 10 or more seasons.
Honestly Bran did die In the cave because The three eyed raven swapped their bodies and took his, Ramsay literally told you all "If you think This has a happy ending you clearly Haven't been paying attention" The Night king could Possess Thousands of dead bodies what made anyone think the three eyed raven couldn't perform similar abilities if the King of ice was Afraid of him more than The dragons or jon snow??
Or Maybe bran took you over and closed your eyes and mind when it was clearly shown in the episode that the old raven was killed by the night king.
How would you contemplate this " I am no longer xyz I am king now " clearly king is a position just like 3 eyes raven.
The Best of the Aristocratic families seems to be the Starks and their bastards. Most of the villains were killed off with a few worthwhile people left such as Tyrion who is interested in being as fair as possible as long as he has what he needs.
It’s the world’s (children’s) collective memory. Preston Jacobs described this well many years ago per evidence in George’s previous work. He explains it much better where D&D sadly failed beyond imagination.
You are right, of course, but the books will surely end (or continue) in a very different direction. Having Bran become the most ironic king-villain was likely a way to "wrap it up" most unpredictably for David and Dan who desperately wanted out. It was appropriate for that reason only. Once George R. R. Martin finishes the books (or passes away), some company will completely remake the series close(r) to his marvelous books, and we will all be happy(er).
And just what is so great about becoming King of the 7 realms? What's the actual payoff?
Random question, what song did you use in the background of this video?
Yay you're back! 👍
When you accept bran stark Is Dead And The person Who Is The Role model for both melisandre and Euron Greyjoy is In control of his body, A Disappointing Ending Soon transforms into the creepiest way a show can end
So as we have a new villian
Are we going to have another season ???
#remake
Bran in S6: jon is the true heir to the iron borne.
Bran in S8(finale): why do you think i came all this way ?
I don't think this was intended but is a good explanation. The real game of thrones was three-eyed raven vs the night king. I would go even further and this being the big conflict from the start of the show and the whole "lord of light" was also just a manipulation. And is it good vs evil or evil vs evil or just power play should be left to the audience to decide. Also funny thing is white walkers army didn't attack the wall and went south until three-eyed raven escaped to south in body of Bran lol Maybe there would be no war if he stayed there. It makes sense with assumptions that in ancient war there was a stalemate and some sort of deal brokered.
Team Stark! I am glad they won the Game of Thrones The Pack survives!
A Targaryan is literally controlling Bran. At the end of the day it's BloodRaven who truly won the Game Of Thrones!
I just noticed Bran’s “king outfit” looks like the Three Eyed Raven feathers and Bran’s Kingsguard has a raven on its armor
All That makes Bran the hero, not the villain.
Not and not, because he manipulated everything to be king, he didn't care about anything, only himself, he could've done the same more gently and use his power to help them, instead he chose to use them all only to become king. He let millions of people die, he knew it and he said nothing, he only said the things that could benefit him. He is the greater villain in GTO.
Bran ceased to ever be a hero by warging into Wyllis in The Door.
This makes me wanna rewatch season 8
I know, all the clues for this I missed
Honestly D&D failed most with “Bran.” One quick scene in the finale showing Bloodraven & the children manipulated events through “Bran” would have vastly altered the majority of opinions.
What did John ask to Bran at the end ?that he responded almost . I couldn’t understand.
Jon: “look at you. You’re a man”
Bran: “almost”
Sad. I think you're right, though.
The Starks became the villains :/
@@dworroba7693 Not all the Starks!
Deborah Kogan who didn’t? Jon is not a Stark and Sansa also plotted to overthrow Daenerys :(
And other Starks are dead. Ned and Benjen were awesome and honorable
@@dworroba7693 What of Robb, Ned, Arya? (Not counting Rickon).
The Children wanted their lands back. They’re the real players.
'Lord' is not 'King'. He said he could never be a 'Lord' of anything. He didn't say he could never be 'King' of anything.
Brandon Stark, King of Andals & the First Men, *LORD* of the Six Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm. He is not just A Lord, he is THE Lord🙄
I think the 3 eyed raven told the children how to make the white walkers. Thats why the night king is coming for him. Maybe killing the 3 eyed raven is the only way to undo the curse.
And also plz remember that the Knight King’s vision was to destroy the memory of the world meaning that the only way he could be able to do that was to kill/eliminate someone who was it so he could plant a new root and rule forever it’s a calculated mechanism that works even with people, you want to destroy people first take away their pride which is basically built on past and present by changing how they think or look at themselves!
Because Bran was this cute little innocent kid I feel like people don’t really realize how evil he became once his consciousness was consumed by Bloodraven. Idk why people seem to assume he’d be a good king simply cause he can see the future. We’ve seen already he orchestrates terrible events just to benefit himself.
I think the Night King is partly in Bran Stark. Have the red priestess bring back Daenerys.
Bran isn't God tho so he can't change past or future he knows everything but it's not his will to change future/people's fate. So he just let all of these happen.
I idea you brought up here is really nice but Bran being a three eyed raven doesn't mean he can change someone's fate by his will. So Bran isn't the villian here
🤯 Good video
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