Jojen Paste: does Bran eat Jojen?
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- In Game of Thrones / ASOIAF, does Bran Stark eat Jojen Reed as part of his training under "the three-eyed crow"? Jojen Paste is one of the craziest Game of Thrones theories, but it might just be true...
A visual explanation and analysis of Jojen Paste, a Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones fan theory about Bran Stark and Jojen Reed.
This video contains major spoilers for Season 5 and Book 5.
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"Hey Bran, did you like Jojen ?"
"Yeah..."
"Well then, have some more of him !"
Lmfao. My ass is gone now. Give it back.
He was just helping jojen make something of himself.
In the words of Hannibal, "It's nice to have a friend for dinner".
Wait?! Bran eats jojen? I missed that part
GRRM just can't have one happy Stark can he
+King Mckay No.... no he can't
Patrick Snow :D
He can't have one happy character Tbh
Ritwik Sharma Spoiler alert The world of ice and fire is Hell
+King Mckay Jon was relatively happy at points
SOYLENT GREENSEER PASTE IS MADE OF JOJEN!
Highly underrated comment
I was totally thinking that!
+Copperbeard
hahahaha
+Copperbeard Or maybe WEIRWOOD PASTE IS JOJEN!
+Copperbeard Served to Brannibal Lecter
Saw the title and was like, "The hell? That's stupid." And then you go and make it all sound so pausible. I'm super impressed.
same
Everytime bud
Lol is it really? I was thinking he ate jojen first time around. Strong implication especially because they were already eating people in he North
100% accurate. These videos are awesome!!
I'm impressed and apalled
I guess that's why hbo blew jojen up on the show, they're ok with blood and gore + sex and nudity, but kids eating other kids is crossing the line lol
Not just sex and nudity, but also rape. Like constantly
@@homestuck_official also prostitution, drugs and torture
I mean they did have Arya serve Lord Frey his own son in a pie.
@@swagdawgswagson4727 Yeah but they weren't kids. Or at least they didm't LOOK like kids.
@@homestuck_official I think they did it because letting bran eat Jojen in a visual medium isn't subtle at all.
Before clicking this video: Bran ATE Jojen? I will believe Ser Pounce is Azor Ahai before I believe this...
After watching this video: Holy shit Bran ate Jojen.
Bran ate Ser Pounce too.
You tryna fucking tell me Ser Pounce isn't the Prince who was promised?!
Too bad it's wrong. Jojen is alive in the book and Game of Thrones was fucking kamikazed.
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 how do you know?
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 You do know that you can bleed someone without killing them right?
The best part of this theory is that its implied Jojen knows how he's going to die. So the whole time they're traveling together he knew Bran was going to eat him.
except that there is not evidence of him becoming "paste" also human paste would not be "white". as for the whole jojen is now afraid you have to understand the whole point leading up to this jojen knows he will succeed in bring bran to the crow he knows its going to work you cannot be afraid of failing when you already know the outcome. he becomes scared because he has now completed the task and his future is not known any more.
@@aikidodude05 Obviously the paste has other stuff mixed into it that made it white. It’s not just blood. If it was, Bran would know right away.
@@HarshDude126 do you understand how hard it is to turn red into white? its not blood and the theroy hinging on that jojen gets scared at the end even though thought the whole theory it relies on jojen knowing the future it does not make sense. he fear only make sense in the concept of he doesn't know what to do now that his vision has been completed. heck it even is said that jojen would not fight to save himself because of vision because he believes in fate. this fundamentally shoots why he is afraid in the foot.
something though that can scare the hell out of person that has visions and lived by what his visions say is going past a point were he had no visions. IE the point when they no longer know what is going to happen. the point were they have to now choose what to do instead of march to the script.
You're dumb and what you wrote is intelligible. There is nowhere to go if he's gone then he's DEAD and at least his BLOOD is used as a catalyst for magic as all magic has a price, it's NEVER cheap. How else is he going to survive the winter anyway? He has to eat everybody there for even a chance unless he melds with the tree. Forget about the TV show that shit isn't Canon. Winter is years long he's in the middle of fucking nowhere him and anyone he's with are fucked. Jojen couldn't "go home" they barely made it there it's impossible to make it even partway back alone. Don't be dumb
@@rishisaaptacha magic and dragon doesn't suddently mean colour theory is out the window.
You're really good at pacing these right. It's accessible and really professional.
Thanks! That's what I aim for.
+Alt Shift X Seriously, the different colored highlights, the whole multi-screen view really compliments the already well structured script. You do some amazing work on these videos.
+Alt Shift X dude I love your videos sorry I can't donate
+Alt Shift X you should do an audio book of you reading the game of thrones books
GET IN THE DAMN ROBOT SHINJI!!!
"Not some Harry Potter swish and flick bullshit" 10/10
Emiel Baars it’s Leviosaaaaaahhhhhhhh
@@phatphuc9276 it's not LeviosaAAAA
it's LeviOsa.
It's interesting that Bran has a crush on Meera in the books. I never got that sense in the show
In the show he just coldly told her to fuck off when he got home safely.
@@arhamsaa in the show it always felt like the other way around
@@iplayeddishonored2475 In the show, Meera didn't have a crush on him, she protected him like his mother or a big sister.
@@arhamsaa bro had shit to do
Probably because woke culture would say he was harassing her
It's possible Jojen will be killed or has ALREADY been killed, but I never saw the "Jojen paste" as strong proof of this.
They tell him it's made of weirwood paste; the "red veins" are weirwood sap. This is why the faces on the trees are always seen crying "blood" -- it's just the color of their sap.
I think this might be another case of GRRM throwing us a red herring. Bloodraven wouldn't risk upsetting Bran this early on into their training by killing his friends.
+CadaverJunky8 but where would Bran go if he did get upset? He nearly died getting there and Jojen is (probably) gone, I don't see that he has many options either way :(
Hayley Fletcher He could just refuse to go along with what Bloodraven wants. Starve himself or something.
This theory's kinda 50/50.
+CadaverJunky8 Alt Shift X did say that there is no strong evidence to support this theory, but as you say, there's no evidence against it. The video made a good point of showing that it's plausible, but not proven. So yeah, we should all treat the theory as a 50/50 thing.
+CadaverJunky8
" Bloodraven wouldn't risk upsetting Bran this early on into their training"
Bloodraven, as far as I can tell, would risk anything if it's necessary for his plan (consider what he's already put Bran through). Therein lies the crucial issue: if it's not necessary, then he most likely wouldn't. If it is necessary, then he will do it in a heartbeat.
+CadaverJunky8 Interesting insight but still doesn't explain why Jojen is getting/used to get depressed day after day and is nowhere to be found since Bran ate the thing.
'He never signed up to be physic tree' is now my new favourite sentence
psychic*
It should be noted that the emphasis on darkness isn't necessarily a reference to "evil". In fact, it seems that it means just what it seems at face value; actual literal darkness. Sensory depravation is directly linked to the awakening of psychic ability in ASoIaF.
Bran's warging potential is awakened when he's in his coma; when he is, effectively, in darkness. His and Rickon's abilities are further enhanced during their time in the crypts; when they're in darkness. Bran begins to reach his full potential when he spends time in the cave with Bloodraven; in darkness. Arya learns to warg only after being blinded by the Faceless men; when she lives in darkness. Aeron's spiritual awakenings take place only once he is held captive in dungeons; when he's in darkness.
I could go on, but I think you get the point. Sure, it may seem sketchy at first glance, but when compared to everything else we see in ASoIaF, Bloodraven's words can really only mean one thing. Darkness will make Bran strong, because when he cannot see he is *forced* to open his "third eye", awakening and strengthening his psychic abilities.
and yet these still could all be bad things. Good for survival, yes, but potentially bad for humanity, if you believe (and there is strong evidence for this) that the three-eyed-raven is the Great Other, the darkness, that wants to destroy humanity. That uses human ability (like individuality, greenseeing, warging, violence, etc) to get humans to make misguided decisions through visions and peers, that could lead to humanity's self destruction. So in people's darkest moments, what seems to be a "what doesnt kill you makes you stronger" is really a "what doesnt kill you makes you a pawn in our game to help us kill you all"
Arya is having 'wolf dreams' long before she is blinded. But yes, it's at that point she learns to direct it through the stray cat to 'spy' on the kindly man when he beats her. Before that she was doing things by instinct more than design.
@@blub3rry116 Gurm has repeatedly said that his novel won't have a dark lord that likes to wipe out an entire race.
Sure, but Jojen paste sounds more interesting
@@arhamsaa Sure, but "dark lord" is vague. The Others certainly want to wipe out humanity, or at least mean to do harm to humanity. If the Children are behind the creation of the Others, and the Children are the "Old Gods" as in souls within the Weirwoods, and the Three Eyed Crow is tied to the Weirwoods... it's entirely possible the Three Eyed Crow could be on the side of the Others against humanity. Is the pawn of the souls of ancient wood elves that is working with ice elves to destroy humanity a "dark lord"? Maybe.
A couple of points to reinforce your arguments:
- Bran actually calls Bloodraven a monster. Sure, he doesn't know him when he says it, but still, that's the vibe he got from his dreams and his time with Coldhands. Bran I, ADwD:
Meera's gloved hand tightened around the shaft of her frog spear. "Who sent you? Who is this three-eyed crow?"
"A friend. Dreamer, wizard, call him what you will. The last greenseer." The longhall's wooden door banged open. Outside, the night wind howled, bleak and black. The trees were full of ravens, screaming. Coldhands did not move.
"A monster," Bran said.
- Bran's not only doing all those morally dubious things you were talking about, he's also mind-raping Hodor. While controlling Hodor's body, he clearly feels that Hodor doesn't like it, but Bran wears his skin anyway:
The big stableboy never understood what was happening, and Bran could taste the fear at the back of his mouth. (Bran I, ADwD)
Like a dog who has had all the fight whipped out of him, Hodor would curl up and hide whenever Bran reached out for him. His hiding place was somewhere deep within him, a pit where not even Bran could touch him. (Bran III, ADwD)
Bran doesn't feel bad about using a person that has been nothing but loyal to him, even though said person doesn't like what Bran does. Someone who has carried him and accompanied in a very dangerous and uncomfortable journey. It's not that far from eating another loyal friend.
Great video!
Add to that that in ADWD’s prologue, Varamyr mentions that warging into humans is considered a giant taboo. I’m sure that that isn’t just coincidence that the same book wherein Varamyr mentions that, Bran thinks about the same topic.
@@hootclesia Who has a better story than Bran the broken
@@sickpoet2865 Quentyn
Integral Art have you ever heard the tragedy of Quentyn the Dragontamer?
@@TheNick1536 #quentynlives
I have to say, I'm disappointed you didn't mention my favorite paragraph, and one I think is so telling. After the jojen paste, bran finds Meera, and Meera laments how 'jojen went home, he wouldn't change his mind...'. to me, that was the most telling about what jojen sacrificed. It also helps explain Meera dragging him on a sled, to make good by her brothers sacrifice.
Rollin' down the North, pulled by Meera, sippin' on Jojen juice. Laid back (with my mindmeld to Hodor and my Hodor on my mind).
this is gold
That's some pretty damning evidence. Blood Raven always did creep me out.
+Dylan Palmer He was a pretty creepy dude even before he merged with the tree so I wouldn't be surprised either.
Blood raven killed his own uncle "to save the relm" when he was hand of the king a hundred years before game of thrones begins.. He's a one eyed basturd of a Targaryean king who used blood magic to warg into people and manipulate politics in kings landing when he was hand to the king.. When he killed his own uncle he was sent to the black cells under the red keep for over two decades to idle away in the dark to do God knows what by himself and when his sentence was up he was sent to the wall where he became Lord commander in a short period of time .. How does a guy who was in jail become Lord commander of the nights watch?.. Well it's Cuz he can warg into people and skin change and manipulate everything and anything.. Then one day he decided to go north to find the weir wood Internet tree that he lives in now to soy on everyone in Westeros and live and grow his greensear powers even more..
+Moejii Osman *realm ;)
+Moejii Osman I'm not sure if that's a joke, but it's quite different from the story I remember:
- I don't remember Bloodraven killing his uncle. I don't remember who his maternal uncles are, but the only paternal uncle I can remember is Prince Aemon the Dragonknight, and he wasn't killed by Bloodraven, as far as I know. He apparently killed his brother Daemon Blackfyre and his nephews, the twin sons of Daemon, during the 1st Blackfyre Rebellion.
- I don't remember him using blood magic. People said a lot of things, but I don't remember it being a plausible thing. He probably was a skinchanger and probably knew how to use a glamour, but that doesn't mean he used blood magic.
- He was sent to the black cells because he killed Daemon Blackfyre's son Aenys after telling him on behalf of the Iron Throne that he wouldn't be harmed.
- He didn't spend two decades in the black cells. Aegon V had him imprisoned and then sent him to the Wall with Maester Aemon. It was not two decades. And his sentence wasn't up. Aegon simply sent him with his brother Aemon because he was a prisoner and prisoners sometimes are sent to the Wall, because their sentences are not up.
I might be wrong though.
+Dylan Palmer His name is BLOOD Raven after all xD
It took me a few rereads before I noticed, but you'll notice the passage identifies Bran as "Bran" and then switches to "Brandon." I think, "Brandon Stark could taste the blood." is referring to the sacrifice having his throat cut, not Bran the witness. I think there's a sort of proximity effect to the Weirwood visions, so not only is Bran seeing through the eyes of the tree, he is privy to the feelings and insights of those surrounding it at the time. There's a precedent for this in the other visions as well.
I'm not sure of the exact significance of the sacrifice obviously, but Bran the Builder is the most famous Brandon Stark, and given the line, "Your monster, Brandon Stark." line, I'm pretty sure we're seeing the creation of Coldhands.
I do subscribe to the Jojen Paste theory, though.
I'm guessing it's just a random Stark being sacrificed, Brandon is the most common name for them, so both our Bran and the Brandon being sacrificed can taste the blood
It's funny, sometimes I read the titles of these videos and I'm like, _no, there's no way,_ but then before the video is done I'm convinced.
Brannibal Lecter
I'll see myself out.
No you won't, that was amazing!
Don't come back that was too good
No, that was good. You can stay.
Please do
I ate his liver with weirwood seeds and a nice paste.
You cant help but feel sorry for Jojen, its obvious he was an avatar or a tool by bloodraven to get Bran to the cave, and now that he has no use for him he leaves him sullen and anxious.
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Cheers mate (:
What if Bloodraven is simply aware his body is dying, and is setting Bran up to become a powerful Greenseer only with the intent of warging into and taking over Bran's body?
Why not take over jojen
If I were gonna take over a new body, it wouldn't be the body of a cripple, plenty of other green seers and wargs out there to choose from other than Bran
@@joeyjones9041 only one man in a thousand is born a skinchanger and 1 in a thousand skin changers can be a greenseer. I don't think he can be picky if that's his plan.
Season 5 SPOILERS
You say in the title that this video contains spoilers for season 4, but show Shireen getting burned. Sure, you don't show her getting killed, but it might spoil some innocent person who hasn't watched season 5 yet.
Thanks for pointing that out! Spoiler tag changed.
+Juan Pablo Mina Your picture is awesome. :)
+Juan Pablo Mina Then you should need to edit your comment since everyone can read it ;)
+Juan Pablo Mina I think at this point if someone hasn't seen season 5, it is their fault haha.
+Alt Shift X If you want my opinion, anyone watching theory videos has given up any right to complain about spoilers.
Tyrion: “And who has a better story than Bran the Broken?? I mean, the guy ate the kid from Love Actually. That’s a story I wanna hear!” 🤣🤣
In the book, Jojen was looking out the cave toward home, and Bran was like "what's wrong with him?" and Meera was all "he knows his fate is not here."
Bloodraven is terrifying in the books. I'm always so worried for Bran but he's just too young to notice
I have leaked evidence as to how Hodor reacts in the books.
“Hodor.”
I don't know how George always manages to write this deep and meaningful dialogue for one Chatacter so consistently
Gotta look at the contradictory evidence though. In Bran II of aDwD, he says "Hodor."
@@Mordal1222 ah yes but that's taking it out of context, you for forget, he also says... "Hodor."
@@Cheesusful Don't you guys remember? Even back in "the game of thrones" it was foreshadowed with dialogue such as "Hodor" and "Hodor".
Hoping for a patchface video soon!
+Michael H Yeah that's one of the most requested and voted-for topics... will defs do a Patchface vid some time soon (:
+Alt Shift X yay!!! I can't wait to see the Patchface video
Oh oh oh......
+Michael H Patchface has visited the drowned god (cthulu of asoiaf), and his riddles are just foreshadowings
+Michael H Yes, GRRM has done a really good job using this "fool" to foreshadow events to come; and we don't automatically place, what seems to be, random ramblings of a crazy fool in the 'important pile'.
I think Bloodraven is good at least in an ambiguous way. But doesn't Melisandre have visions of a boy with a wolfs head serving the darkness/great other? That might be Bran.
Bran was late for those delicious Frey pies but at least he get some Jojen pie.
"magic in this world isn't some Harry Potter swish and flick bullshit"
GOAT line right there
I think Bloodraven a little bit more complicated than just doing things for "his own interest" Like Varys and Melisandre, he believes that the ends justify the means and he ultimately works for the realm. He did bad things for the greater good as Hand of the King, as Lord Commander and I think he is doing that now to fight against the Others.
Alltough i have only seen the series, the storyline of the books and it's writing sound much more interesting than the series!
No kidding, Sherlock.
It is.
the manner of narration and the voice are so calming and soothing that I can listen about Bran supposedly eating his friend with interest and relaxation
bran was eating jojens paste well before the cave.lots of protien.
FFS, it's GoT, clearly Meera was the one eating jojen's paste
TheApexSurvivor yep ,valid point.Lol.
You sick hilarious bastids!!!
Oh ship
Bran Stark = Anakin Skywalker
Bloodraven = Palpatine
Bran will end up embracing the darkness, but in the end, will be the hero he wanted to be.
Or maybe someone who thinks hes a hero, like Brynden himself thought, but is really just a monster who does things for his and his family's good
Would be a cool continuation of the perversion of dreams
Before the video: what the hell
After: yea that makes sense
My goodness man, your videos are the best as far as Game of Thrones/ASOIAF is concerned.
The videos are detailed and the way you explain everything is perfect. Using the images and quotes to simplify the theories is awesome.
I wouldn't read the theories if my life depended on it, but your videos make it fun.
I subscribed! Hope you get more and more subscribers. You deserve it!
+Srinivasan Ananth Cheers mate! Glad you enjoy the vids
+Alt Shift X Now that was crazy quick, haha!
+Alt Shift X cool videos! how about the theory that Syrio Forel is jaqen h'ghar?
+Alt Shift X He's got the right of it man. Your videos are by far the best.
+Lewis Jimenez his videos are based on the books.
I remember sharing this with my friends when it first came out... over 5 years ago... by the Gods... we all grew apart and now I don't even talk to them anymore... I miss Game of Thrones and I miss my childhood friends... Feels like I went to join the Night's Watch... Long live Jon!
Move on with your life lol.
@@HOTD108_ What a stupid reply
I don't like the maligning of Bloodraven just because he's a freak. I don't think the Children or Bloodraven are planning on misusing Bran. Recall that this was all sanctioned by Howland Reed.
I always took the "darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk," as BR encouraging Bran to accept his fate.
Further, this all occurs in the midst of Melisandre and the evil she does in the name of the Lord of Light. Darkness ain't so bad, is it?
Plus, I don't think that Summer would be calm and go out hunting if he sensed anything sinister about BR or tCotF. I don't think Summer would leave Jojen to his fate. I believe Bran would have been able to smell blood in that weirwood paste because his sense of smell is likely improved by warging Summer. Jon's sense of smell is improved by warging Ghost.
it makes more sense that the tree-people/raven are the bad guys for humanity, given the war they have with humans. The whole "let's defeat our common enemy, the whitewalkers" thing makes little sense, given that whitewalkers were SUPPOSED to end humanity and just failed. The reason i think tree-kids want the white walkers dead is because they cannot control the whitewalkers, and even if the whitewalkers killed humanity for them, the walkers would be too strong to be defeated by them (why defeat them? to have all the forests in westeros to themselves), so the better solution would seem to be to let the humans kill 'em all, then manipulate the humans into killing themselves through visions, crows, and manipulating circumstances (like getting an evil leader to kill people and/or lead people into ruin). in my opinion relating this back to religion, since religion plays a huge part in the world, my theory is a common one, which is that there is/are no true god/gods, and that anyone with any abilities that seem otherworldly are just good at magic, or gifted enough to use it. It makes it likely that the red priestesses visions in the flames that tell them about a chosen one and a Great Other who rules the darkness could be referring to someone like jon snow, a potentially just ruler who could defeat the TRUE darkness, and the three-eyed-raven who is a manipulating cult-serving skele-corpse-tree who loves darkness oh so much, would be the Great Other who serves the darkness, an anti-human tree loving asshole. And the reason this makes sense in religious context is that it doesnt matter if any other gods like the many-faced god, the god of death, the drowned god, the god of tits and wine, the seven, the old gods, etc seem to answer prayers or deliver magical results. It's all just magic, unconnecting to any god. And if that's true, that there is only magic and no gods, no ones visions or prophesies or spells or anything could be discounted by an argument like "yeah but didnt you see how legit the many-faced god seems to be? that must be the true god, making all of this tree conspiracy prophecy nonsense somewhat bullshit"
The direwolves were almost certainly sent by Bloodraven. It's no coincidence that Ghost resembles the weirwood trees, nor that GRRM draws the readers attention to the fact. In a way, Melisandre does too; her skin is described as pale and her eyes red.
The lord of light may as well be the lord of darkness the way Melisandre talks about him
I feel like it's more likely that he's eating part of bloodraven. if the blood and the paste seem well combined it would make sense that it came from the one guy that's half tree.
I have to make a human sacrifice every morning to get my truck to start
Only blood can pay for life. I even think Bran will need human blood to keep his power. That would be the reason for all the corpses at Bloodravens place. Also in Season 6 we see Coldhands "feeding" him.
This is far more interesting than the tv show.
Politics and scheming is interesting and all, but the show's half-assed attempt at fantasy, in the place of a weird mythology messed up at least as much as the greek or bible ones, can hide.
"The Long Night" of one hour and 22 minutes, that was shoot after dark with no studio lights, and ended after a Mary Sue's dagger
You have a way of making stuff that sounds kind of weird and unbelievable at first sound deep, planned and totally plausible.
This is one of the major plot lines I can't wait to read about in WoW. It's scary that Old Nan told Bran "All Ravens Are Liars", and at the story of the long night, it was "the children" that helped (as Bran seemingly "remembers" how the story ended). Got to be planted information. I've re-read the series twice, and this is still a stand-out chapter because the "helpers" may be doing harm than good . I can't wait to read next chapter to see how this plot develops. Thanks for the vid, thoroughly enjoyed it.
And now he's the king of Westeros.....WHAT A WEIRD WORLD WE LIVE IN
not in the books.
@@muss2055 not yet. You don't know what George has planned. I'm hopeful that if the books end this way, the story lines will be more fleshed out. I mean, with 3000 manuscript pages, two 1500 page books, you can bet Dany's not just gonna snap.
@@lordodysseus i agree my friend. but in my opinion bloodraven is someone very bad. i dont think that bran will live through the long night.
I really love your videos. They are so comprehensive and reasonable, even for non-native english speakers like me. And there is always a possibility to pause the videos in between your speech and read the references. Thank you alot.
Du bist doch Deutsche!
Jesus Christ you're everywhere!
So glad that you are going full time! Love your ASOIAF videos above all others, really professional.
Cheers mate (:
The research, presentation, pace and production values are constantly nothing short of fantastic. I couldn't be happier to hear that it could go full time.
There's something in the somber tone of the narration and the horrifying subject of cannibalism and blood sacrifices (along with the colouration used in the visuals) that makes this analysis particularly disturbing to me. Doesn't help that I watched this at night either. I'm not usually such a wimp when it comes to horror, I *love" horror, but the idea of a young boy being guided by someone much older and wiser but not necessarily 'good' is just so unsettling. Adding cannibalism to the mix is...just no.
Loving your series btw! I really like the format; a kind of video essay. Can't wait for the newest GOT episode just to watch your take on it!
I got creeped out two.
Yeah i creeped out as well... I suddenly felt the need to make some light in the darkening evening and i realized how gapingly my door was presenting the darkness that lurked behind. I had to pause to come to my senses, but that did little to reduce the unsettling feelings.
This Thanksgiving, I am thankful for your videos.
Cheers mate! Thanks for watching
Since Preston has become completely crazy, you make the best ASOIAF videos.
Awesome video as always, dont change the way u make the videos, the simplicity of the images/quotes fits perfectly with the phase of your voice/video. Great work!
I've heard these theories before,
but let's face it I watch for the sound of your voice and the way you tie things together so neatly! Keep up the good work.
That last part about Bloodraven having his own designs - he was also accused of setting into play some of the events that caused Egg to become king.
Man! I've been waiting for a video from you for a while... (and that while feels like eternity). Great work man, cheers
+Meghav Verma I wish he could upload his videos more often
+Falcon2908 when he said he's going full time in the end, I was like hell-fucking-yes!
Your videos inspire me on how to make excellent essays. Thanks!
I really enjoy your video, Alt Shift. You're very clearly, balanced as well as capable of adding an appropriate amount of humour. Keep it up.
Your videos are the best on TH-cam. Glad to hear you're going full time with it. Look forward to more from AltShiftX.
Not just Bloodraven at the tree seems to have, let's say, "amoral practices", the young Bloodraven Targaryen also did amoral stuff. That's actually what sent him to the Wall.
Bran sees what evil is at the heart of winter, and is horrified. I'm betting all my dragons he saw himself.
Thank you so much for making this! You probably get lots of requests and don't remember each specific person, but I requested a Jojen paste video a few months ago and I was really excited to see that you made one :) I'm glad you're going full-time as well, I really like your videos.
Excellent video. You present the ideas and theories in such a clear and structured way!
Perhaps a video on the theory that Jaqen is the Alchemist and becomes Pate? Great video as always, I'm glad I support you on patreon! :)
***** Yeah, but you could just read AWOIAF.
+FenuxFX Yo I love that idea, would be a really good video.
Jaquen is in fact the Alchemist when he pulls off his hood the discription completely matches the one when we last see him(when he walks away from Arya)
Deyw _C Didn't know that, I was convinced he was, even tho I want more theorising on his (or their) motivations for doing such things and just a nice solid video by Alt Shift X
Deyw _C Yeah, which begs the question, why would he want to assume Pate's identity? Does he want to get to the Wall for some reason by assuming Sam's identity? A lot of questions and one man to answer them: Alt Shift X.
"Smacking on some Jojen" LOL
This is the first ASOIAF lore video I ever watched and it hooked me. Thank you.
I would absolutely LOVE for you to create commentaries on some of your old videos now that we have new information on them!! Particularly this video and your WW video!!
I totally glossed over these details when I read that chapter. God, that's so sick. Bran's story always seemed to me to be a welcome respite from the cruelty of the rest of the Song, appearing to be more of a dangerous adventure across a mystical land than a gruesome, bloody war. If this is true, then Bran's story may very well be the darkest of them all.
I always took that quote about loving Meera as Bran feeling through Hordor; when the group is escaping the wights into Blood Ravens cave, Brans takes over Hordor, and that's when this line is written down; that Hordor in fact loves Meera.
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@@pyramidion5911 You sure do add a lot to the discussion don't you
I'm so excited that you're going to be making these videos more often! I always check out your channel first as soon as I open TH-cam 😀
Let me just say this about that; the part of your channel that makes me think and makes me laugh are brought out by your GoT videos specifically, and more so together when you point out how obvious some seemingly obscure plot and I laugh at myself in agreement even though I had missed it in my own reading of the books.
hold the door...
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Once again a great video, Thanks for all the effort you put in them.
Cheers mate!
Congrats on going full time Alt Shift X! Really looking forward to seeing more awesome Videos! Keep it up!
I must say, I'm loving almost every video of yours that TH-cam recommends to me.
I wish GRRM can dedicate another book just on Bran and his historical journey. I would love to see the development of the battle of the tridents and discover Bran had influenced its outcome like how he messed up Hodor.
I had never heard this theory but I am totally buying it. The whole 'turning to the dark side' arc would be very interesting. Very well done! Thank you!
When you release a new video it immediately turns my day in to a great day :)
I am new to your videos. The structure of your narratives are very strong. You communicate complex ideas very clearly and cleanly with very strong retention.
I've developed a bizarre theory of my own regarding Bran. It involves Jaqen H'ghar and the Faceless Men. It was never explained as to what he was doing in Kings Landing? What his mission was? Who could afford a King's Ransom to hire him? How he could allow himself to be captured so easily? I believe he was specifically hired to be captured in order to help Arya to become an assassin herself. I believe that it was Bran's future self who sent his mind back in time as a Green Seer and then used his power as a Warg to possess someone in the past to hire the Faceless Men with some very precise instructions. As a Green Seer he would know where substantial hidden treasure would be hidden for someone like him to access. Time of course would have no meaning in preparing these plans though. He'd just have to play it so no one would know who is ultimately behind it.
I was rewatching the second episode of the first season. This is the episode where Bran is still in a coma and where Ned kills Lady. At the end of the episode, Bran wakes from his coma right after Ned kills Lady. I can't recall if this happens simultaneously in the books as well. Maybe this was considered some sort of a sacrifice to awaken a part of Bran's powers?
"Only death can pay for life." That's one of the recurring themes in ASOIAF
Anyone else just watching all of Alt’s videos and liking each one despite already having watched them all before?
Keep doing what you're doing ALT!!!Much love!!!
Now that we know how the show ends, this theory takes on a very different meaning
Given how the show ends it seems pretty meaningless. He made that arduous journey, got Hodor and Jojen killed, all in order to train up as.... bait?!
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 to be king
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 In the show his training as the three-eyed bird of various names has no bearing on his eventually becoming king.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 it has every bearing. him knowing everything, the keeper of all stories, and being able to see past mistakes of past kings is why Tyrion says hes the perfect choice.
hope it ain't true...
+Jon Snow Hey Jon, how's Ygri... Oh right... Sorry...
+Unknown That's unfair man he just got shanked by his crew
Waiting for a bastard with a direwolf!
Man, you'll eat your aunt soon enough...
Lol
Wow, this was a surprisingly coherent and convincing summary. Think I'm sold on theory now, after strongly doubting. Very nicely done!
Good idea getting a Patreon, your videos are great. Thanks. This theory is super creepy.
At least Jojen was already cooked.
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Banter Board he was boiled for safety
"Not any Harry Potter swish and flick bull shit"
I smile every time you upload a video! Awesome work as usual keep it up :D
Thought provoking and informative as always! 🤔 Great job!
Im pretty sure that bloodraven is a villain. In older grrm stories, the telepath's are usually the bad guys. In one story, bunch of telepathic aliens send false visions to men who occupy their home world. The men think that the visions cant be wrong, and do exactly as the visions tell them to do. But in the end, the visions basically told them to sabotage their own base. So maybe, the visions in asoiaf are also flase, and the telepathic characters are actually evil.
Check out preston jacobs video The Minds of Wolves and Robins. It goes really in depth about this theory...
+Christopher Lennon They are bad in the sense of being enemies to mankind.
+salmon inlake If you were looking at it from their perspective, you would realise they are doing nothing but saving their homes, think about it, maybe Bloodraven has come to understand the Children of the Forest and is plotting something to help them, not to just "destroy humanity because why not"
+salmon inlake No matter the motives, Bloodraven gave a boy dream so he would befriend someone over a roadtrip so he would eat him...
+salmon inlake Bloodraven had a reputation before he went north of the wall of being someone who always tried to do the right thing, even though most people were scared shitless of him. His first appearance to Bran was also about how he needed to save the Seven Kingdoms from something scary in the far North (can't imagine what) and a mountain oozing black blood with something very scary behind its visor.
I think that neither the magic of the old gods nor Melisandre's fire magic is inherently good or evil; that fits GRRM's overall themes of morality not being cut and dry. The "good side" of magic/the force and the "dark side" seems like another version of the noble heroes teaming up to defeat the Dark Lord; the kind of story GRRM says he _didn't_ want to tell.
Navy Seel Why would GRRM go to the trouble of establishing that reputation if not to provide an understanding of Bloodraven's motivations?
This channel is the best stuff you can find on GOT...
I love these videos. Thanks for continuing to make them. Would love to see one - or several - on the Grand Northern Conspiracy. Any plans for that theory?
I love your videos its very clear you put in a lot of effort and research! keep it up!
Love your voice. It's so relaxing ;D
It's like being in a casual conversation with someone you've met, and they start talking about how the Darkness will make you strong. Might just raise an eyebrow, be like: "Wait, what did you just say? About how the Darkness will make me strong?'
You have to work on your quotation marks consistency
@@StrangeIndeed hhahaha
Never heard of this theory before but you lay it out so well, you have me convinced!
You are one of the best GOT theorists out there. You know why? You're doing it because you enjoy doing it, not to get views or money and that is brilliant. Hoping to see more of your videos.
The Pink Letter theory....(hopefully sometime in the near future)