David, Much respect to you for doing this on your own. Not only is it more than twice the work for one man but keeping motivated and positive is the hardest part. Stay strong buddy.
You’re so right, it’s such a mental game. The work doable, but it’s so easy to get caught up and discouraged. I’ve been reading Eckhart Tolle (on Colin’s recommendation) and slowly learning to be more in the moment and stress out much less.
Your analogy of fiberglass dust is spot on....great work and I give you a ton of credit doing jobs like this alone without a friend sucks....keep the faith
Hi. Sorry for your bad luck with the boat and I give you props for your never give up attitude. I have been in construction for over 40 years. The dust can be mitigated with a shop-vack just need a good filter for it. Also get an oscillating multi tool it can be more precise than a saws all and you can get into tighter areas with it and a little less dust. You can get a nice 24 V Dewalt for around $100. Next I see the fiberglass has pulled away in places and you are cutting it out so you can grind it smooth so you can start over. Rather than cut it all out ( a lot of labor and dust. Why not inject Resin into the separated areas let it fill and strengthen, bonding the two back together. Drill a little hole just through the inner surface this will allow you to inject the separated or delaminated sections less invasive less dust less work. Then maybe apply some fiberglass and resin to the existing pieces to make them stronger. The boat company should put out a fix like this for your boat. Theirs no need for all that dust and labor. You will still need access to it but with less dust. Good luck and let me know if this helps Cheers. Robert
Injecting resin into the separated parts sound like a great idea! But I’m worried about adhesion-you know how fiberglass needs to be ground down before new layers are added (to remove the aiming blush.) I wonder if the separated layers need to be roughed up (which wouldn’t be possible) or suffer adhesion problems. I need to go pickup one of those dewalt multitool-my Ryobi ones suck!
I’m sorry I wasn’t more clear. I would use an epoxy resin not a fiberglass resin they make all kinds of epoxy’s that will bond that without having to scuff it up some two part that when you push it through the syringe the tube will mix the two parts together creating a chemical reaction that’ll help it set up harder bond stronger and possibly stay flexible if you Do some research and find a good Epoxy for your application. Also instead of cutting out the old bulkhead why not sister a strong thin piece of material to each side of the existing bulkhead. By gluing 1/2 inch sheet of plastic to ether side of the bulkhead or a 1” piece to just one side of it if you can’t access the other side. I would glue it then through bolt it making the 2 new pieces and old bulkhead one strong solid piece. With a lot less mess
Well done David. I really enjoyed your post, you have a great sense of humor. You have a way of finding humor in a really terrible situation, that is a rare gift. I wish you the best and keep at it. Looking forward to your next post.
David - no kidding about Colin & Jamie making it look easy. Well, not really… they made it look miserable and brutal and awful but maybe, just maybe doable - because they’ve got so much experience. Good on you for doing serious dust collection. It may not stop the itching but your lungs will last a lot longer. Also, A+ for hearing protection - I lost about 50% in my right ear from working on boats and in workshops. It’s no joke. Love your attitude, keep it up!
I’ve been watching you since parlay introduced you, you make a really bad situation look a hell of a lot better look then it really is. I’m enjoying your channel. I’m a fan keep it up- the humour & positive attitude makes my day better.
Please feel free to share any requests or recommendations for the vids. Thoughts on mixing in some variety like a trip to the Panama Canal? Or do you prefer 100% boat work?
Great video again. You are such a great narrator. It will be nice to see where this channel will go in the future. I really do hope, that you will keep making these videos, and share you story with us. I am watching these, even though I have zero experience on sailing or so. I am a freaking hillbilly living 130 km north from the frigging Arctic Circle, here in Finland. And still, I am watching random dude taking apart he's sailing catamaran at the other side of the world :D But there is something in these videos, that keep me coming back. So thanks for there and good luck with the project.
Finland! I have a really good friend from there who has told me so many fun stories about your country. What a wonderful place I hope to visit one day. One of my favorite youtubers (Matti Haapoj) is from there as well. So happy to have you watching and sharing in the adventure. Hope to be able to show you actual sailing one day soon!
@@david_shih Despite the fact, that we are relatively small nation, us Finns, it seems that everyone know at least one of us. :D But anyway, for the strangest reason I am currently watching loads of sailing videos ( Parlay, Nahoa, Hakuna, Uma, Florence etc). And now yours. I have once been on a small monohull. And that was in a marina and we were waisted. But now I have huge urge to go and see, if sailing would be my thing. Maybe I need to rent a catamaran from Croatia or so, and do my test, before doing something that I might regret :D
Yourself and Colin are doing this hell because you are boat owners, it sort of makes sense the extremes you are going through. Why is Jamie doing it.. it can't be for fun ! He's a great guy no doubts. Good luck to you all at Linton Bay Marina, it's a life journey that will fill your hearts and souls ! (hopefully not just with fibreglass dust!) Be safe folks :)
Just keep the prize in mind. I had a project recently where the TH-cam video said it would be around a 10 hour project. Reality was it was more like a 60 hour project. Multiple times I felt the same as you where wanting to abandon the project. When you get to that point, take a break and remember you are rebuilding a Lagoon 450! An amazing boat! The effort is worth the reward and when completed the worst of it will pale to the prize. Keep at it and keep your head focused on the reward at the end. Good luck!
Sounds like you’ve been where im at! I’m well aware that everything takes 3x as long on a boat, but what they don’t tell you is it’s 10x if you’re doing it for the 1st time! I’m having a blast though…it’s an adventure! And you’re right…the end is definitely worth it…can’t wait to be on the water and diving into that beautiful water!
LMAO I watched Parlay's video earlier and Colin kept getting drowned out by the sound of somebody working hard with a grinder. I knew instantly who it had to be.
Hi David! I’m not a sea person… but I like the ingenuity you showed! Parlay Chanel is awesome but I like yours as well! You should upload onde a week! If I had a chance I would travel there to help you with the work. Hope you all recovered well! Take Care and stay safe.
Thanks Artur! I'm trying my absolute best to get to 1 upload a week, but I'm so slow at editing everything. I'm getting better though! We're all good now, thanks so much for watching and let me know if you're ever in the area! Texas or Panama!
I surely hope you upload the rest of your nightmare,, lol You put a spin on your situation with a hint of humor.. I could have watched an hour of this mastery of carpentry.. Oh yes I subscribed instantly and wish you the best.. You will persevere and your boat will be better. Oh yeah I like to see the look on Lagoon Executives faces when they see your video.. You and Collin have shed light on this structural problem and Lagoon should pay some kind of cost,, at least materials.. Bravo Sir and good luck
DAVID YOUR THE MAN !!!! KEEP GOING, JUST HIRE A COUPLE GUYS TO CARRY SHIT OUT AND RUN THE VACUMN. THEN GET JAMIE REAL SHIT-FACED AND SIGN HIM TO A PERSONAL SERVICE CONTRACT TO FINISH THE JOB. !!!!!!
The lagoon bulkhead video James made, it's obvious that the Lagoons are completely loose and sloppy, but your description of the rigging getting tightened over time is very interesting. I wish you luck!!
Yeah. I just looked at a lagoon 500 a few weeks ago with massive 1 inch cracks/separation in the bulkheads on both sides. I guess it’s not just the 450s.
David, thank you for your well-done videos and the hard work that goes into them. I know it's a distraction from the real work taking place on the boat. Please be mindful of safety and get a box of safety glasses, gloves, and some footwear whilst smashing and pulling. I'd hate for you to be out of service for a couple of mending weeks because of something stupid. Tell us more about what you learned from Parlay and how you are doing it differently or why your strategy better fits your needs. You have fewer resources and just as much work. I liked your mental approach and I think that's a good start. Something I have to keep front of mind for my own major tasks.
Thanks for the suggestions! Really appreciate it. I’ll definitely get some glasses…feel a bit foolish bc I should know better! Also, great idea on talking about strategy! Thanks for the valuable feedback.
@@lionheart9375 you’re right about that. Most people (me included) tend to make decisions based solely on resale value, but what about ‘my experience’ value? I’m starting to think that should probably be worth more.
Great job and kudos to you for such a huge endeavor! Love the Video's and your Spirit, wish I was 20 years younger and I might be your sidekick, LOL. You need to find your own Jamie. Good luck and cant wait to see your boat.
Wish I had your experience with all this....I'm certain you could have disassemble the cabinets in less time it took me to kick them! Once I get this baby back to texas we can have some boat work parties!
Holy shit David you weren't kidding, you really did tear that shit up lol. I guess your going to be needing a kreg when it comes time to rebuilding that chaos lol
You are going to have one hell of a lifetime story to tell, lol. Sorry this happened to you, but you have the right attitude. Do what it takes, fix it, be done forever and take all the experiences with you.
Just want to give you a supportive “well done mate”. I like the idea to focus at one day at the time, so you can mentally handle the stress of this major project👍
Someone has probably already said this, but putting the screws in ziploc bags & labeling them, then taping the baggies to a panel will help. I don't envy you one little bit. Stay strong, and you've got this. You do need a "Jamie", always easier with a second set of hands.
David - Enjoyed my visit to Litton Bay and being able to hang with you for a couple of days, viewing on TH-cam and then in real life really shows the amount of work you have been doing. Keep it up guy the sail back to Kemah is in your near future! 🌊⛴. Need crew I'll be there 😀
You doing it by yourself so don't be so hard on yourself I know now hard it is and the mountain that you are going to climb and now deep you are going to have to dig but you are going to sail out of Panama and we will cheer you on.
Good on you David for getting stuck into the repairs by yourself (with a little guidance, advice and sometimes help from Colin and Jamie). Like your can do attitude. I had to laugh at Colin in his last post with the grinder starting up in the background from a neighbours boat. Figured that it was you lol. What are your plans for the cabins after the structural repairs, as the panels don’t look as though they can be reinstalled? Are you going to do an owners conversion? And where are you planning to do the cabinetry and panel replacement? Once again David, I really enjoy your posts. Hang in there mate. Cheers
Those pieces definitely can’t be salvage. Those broken pieces definitely can’t be salvaged. And the good pieces have been transplanted into Parlay during their cabin reassembly. I was planning to do a custom workshop/office on one side. I love your idea of an owners conversion-that should help resale value too if I do it right! I’ll rebuild the cabins back in Texas, where I can find a Home Depot or Lowe’s close by!
I hope you bagged all screws and marked where they go on a paper inside. Also hope you have lots of pics to figure out where everything goes... Seems a refit may be in order though!! I cannot even immmmmaggggine it!!! Even though I have been watching PARLEY from the beginning and yours as well, I still cannot even imagine it... Best of luck to you!!
@@david_shih Well David, just know that there are a pile of us out here cheering you on.. Who knows, maybe the boat builder will refit it for you!! After YOU make the boat unbreakable, that is!! ;)
Well done! Probably a bit late for this suggestion, but when I do grinding and paint on my steel boat, I use a 12” extractor fan that has a long exhaust tube. It shifts 65m3 of air a minute. I used it when I shotblasted the inside of my outriggers (1 metre diameter by about 9metres) and then painted them and it really kept the dust under control.
Not at all, appreciate the advice. I ended up using something similar, but an 8” duct fan with an exhaust tube to the ground. Definitely helped, but man the remaining dust still took over the boat!
Don't reinforce glass to plywood one thing kids get wrong you have Coosa board which is way more structural then instead of going the regular route start thinking about bridging the gap with carbon fiber,Kevlar, Arameid have I mentioned g-10 fiberglass plates yet you have so many opportunities with the technology yeah parley is doing a nice job using oem parts take it up a notch and make these little parts in the boat bomb proof
Shame man, poor cat! Glad it's ok. You will get this done and in a year or two sit back and laugh about it. Making memories and friends, you can't complain. You'll have some legit cool stories to tell the grandkids one day.
Awesome episode bro. Maybe Colin should go with you when you use the storage. 🤣😹 Keep up the great work. You will laugh looking back on it while you're sailing mate. 👍
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Doing my Best to get vids up for you every Sunday. Question, how would you feel about having Some variety (like visiting the Panama Canal or exploring the Panamanian jungle) instead of all breaking and fixing the boat content?
@@david_shih It's super entertaining to watch both types of content but balance between content is not important at all for me. 100% boat fixing content for months would be amazing and vice versa. Id prefer you to do whatever you would if you werent filming. Itd feel more genuine
hah good job David keep at it man! For keeping track of screws get ziplock bags and then put the screws in while you go, then once you get a piece out, tape the bag to the piece!
@@david_shih Dont worry about labeling all the wood screws, I will help you when its time. I never use to label screw bags taking airplanes apart till my eyesight started failing. LOL
i love the true reality of what boat building is all about. Often, it can be heart breaking... unless you are charging $200 p/hour to fix someone's heartache problems... Well done with the token find and hope the coins reach millions soon.
Thanks brother! It’s hard to convey how difficult all the boat work is. There’s just so many contrasting systems from structure fiberglass to wiring electrical. I’m learning a ton and it’s getting easier by the day.
We are following you on the tear out... Are you going in with all new cabinets. Seems like an interior rebuild might just be easier post bulkhead repair. Vs. Broken pieces to a puzzle?? Can't wait to see her in the water again soon.
Thanks for following!!!!yes absolutely going to go with new cabinets and probably a whole cabin rebuild! Felt like I was the perfect excuse to do a custom cabin build.
@@david_shih sure looked like there was extra space found in Colin's video that lagoon's design covered up. Haha... A design cover-up by Lagoon. Best in the finishing rebuild.
David. You may be back in the water soon. But the broken cabin pieces you want to rebuild can be traced out on plastic to have a pattern of and then trashed. Roll up the plastic and sail home and have new pieces cut to the patterns and rebuild her in Texas.
@@RandolphSanchez01 not a bad idea, but unfortunately the broken pieces are trashed already and the good piece have been transplanted into Parlay to tag along on the circumnavigation and fulfill their destiny as little boat parts.
@PianellaHoneyPot I've got a couple workers lined up for when i get back to Panama in a few days. Obviously they can't compare to Jamie or Colin. Can't wait to get all this fiberglassing done!
Aw sweet man thx. Now I just gotta get faster…was just talking to Colin about how he’s able to stay consistent year after year and have a video every week. Not easy!
Shame Lagoon don't make bulkheads as strong as cupboards!! Keep up the hard work, you know it will be worth it in the end. You could also enquire about Colin and Jamies day rates ....
I've floated the idea here and there, but once I actually got into it I quickly realized there's really no reasonable price someone could pay me to get in there and grind. We do it for the love of our boats and the dream of circumnavigating one day. But jeez....its so demoralizing in there!
Great video 📹! AGAIN! Can't wait to see all the tabs done and back together. Ooo? Are you going to have to put in New cabinets in some spots or use the old ones? Ok tell next time ⏲️ Aloha and Mahalo from the Big Island 🏝of Hawaii 🏝
Hey Bill! I'm thinking we'll tear out the entire bed as well and build it out as a sweet workshop/office. Maybe a submarine style bunk from floor to ceiling to fit all the kids in the other side. I'm open to ideas! What do you think?
@@david_shih A tool room a must! If you can do it i would. You always need a place to work on stuff. Most it is motors, electronics stuff like that. It also gives you a place to work on diving gear ⚙ and to store your tools 🔧 and fishing 🎣stuff. Extra parts, for your engines and parts like for the head or parts for the galley like water pumps stuff like that. And yes you can still have bunks in the for the kids or Extra guests 😉. And it may be easier to build it the way you want it. Sents you are allready have it torn out why not make it a tool/ work/ diving/ parts storage/ kids sleeping room. Does that help? P.s. May have to talk on the phone .so menny thinks to say. Let me know if it helps? I could tell you how i did my forward cabin on our boat 🚢. How i had a vise and a diving compressor all in there and you wouldn't of known it was there. Lol
David, for keeping fiberglass dust out of your suit, you may built positive pressure with a light hose and a small corded blower (kept outside) connected to the suit. Great video on top of the real work! Although you may want to structure it a little bit with an introduction at the beginning and a sneak peek of next episode at the end (too much work, just a thought).
David want to share a hint.. i use to work for a company for 15 years we worked with fiberglass everyday.. use baby powder before you suit up helps the fiberglass wont stick to you and helps with the itch and fiberglass rash. look forward to watching you rebuild your cat.
All I can say is well done, it must be heart-braking at times to think you have to do so much to make your boat safe, shame i'm on the other side of the pond otherwise I would come down to help ..... it would be a dream in fact to get out of our seven months of house arrest ( thanks to Covid lockdowns ) Let me know if you ever head Down Under ...
Thanks man! I tried to grow my hair out like Colin but just couldn't take the Panamanian heat and humidity! Plus I wanted to be read for when I drop fully wetted out fiberglass with epoxy on my head.
Probably too late now, however, before grinding fiberglass cover yourself in baby powder, it will fill your pores and block the dust. It won't stop the itch entirely but it does help a LOT!
Screws and "bits" A large pack of quart and gallon freezer ziploc bags and a black sharpie.. Picture, bag it and tag it.. I like to take a pic of bag of parts, labeled, in the photo of what they went too So if you take off the ceiling then bag all those parts, label it, and then lay the bag somewhere in the photo with the label visible.. you can even get more OCD with the system but basically that works. Freezer bags because sandwich or regular aren't as "tough"
@@david_shih I do. prob the last 25 years or more. I am just a nutter that can't stay away from vintage boats. Mostly larger " trailer sailors" I am helping a lad now do a full restoration on it. I have a boat lift in the backyard I made. My current project is a 1972 British Microplus 16 ft cabin cruiser. transom, stringers, floor, everything. It is the only Microplus in the USA yes take a photo of the labled bag, with the parts, in the area they came from... this helps "old brains" remember vs a lot of random numbers and letters you don't remember anymore cheers from NC (originally from ruislip UK) following with great interest
try or have a look at this respirator - air cooled as well AU $700. mainly used for a wood turning lathe , but would adapt to any situation ....Trend Airshield PRO Respirator
Yeh that fiberglass dust sucks absolute complete balls of ARGGGGG. Tips wash or shower in cold water after, this will stop your paws of your skin from opening up. If they do the aaaarrrrrgggg gets worse. A lot ducking worse 😷🥺🥴😭 thanks for the update 🖐😷👍
Don't sell yourself short PR have each other to lean on and help motivate each other on the daily. Working alone on a shit job can be harder and scarier than anything!!!! Keep up the good work and if you need some motivation/venting therapy channel those feelings into the parts of the boat that failed. Basically fold those feeling back into the problem if that makes sense....don't look at it as destroying your boat......look at it as destroying the obstacle preventing you from living the life you want to live. Sometimes you have to rage at a problem before you can make it your bitch. lol I am going through something similar with an RV I bought....it took me forever to get started on repairing her because I looked at it as destroying something that would help me live a dream of mine...once I wrapped my head around the fact that her issues where standing in the way of living how I wanted to live it was a lot easier and less scary to get started with destroying what on the outside looked perfectly fine. Great honested video!!!
“Sometimes you have to rage at a problem before making it your bitch…I love it. I’m going to make these bulkheads my bitch. Thank you for the awesome advice on staying sane! Good luck with the Rv!!!!
I know you will and we all will enjoy battle and revel in the triumph with y'all when she is back in the water!!!!!!! "It is a blessing for a man to have a hand in determining his own fate" ~Blackbeard
You’re lucky to be near them during this if only to know about the fiberglass dust that you got to plan for... It’s definitely been a SAD, SAD process though, however it’s on the good things now like adding the extension ramp which lets you know, it’s going to be okay! Good Luck to you! You’re too smart for it not to work out anyway! 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
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You are amazing. I know you have Parlay next to you but doing it on your own is hard work and you remain in good spirits, I don't know how you do it. Hopefully Parlay are there long enough to give advice through the worst of your process.
@@david_shih All good in Hong Kong Bro. Hope to meet up with you and the family someday, grab a Yum Cha or dinner. 👍Are you going to refit the carpentry / cabins back in the US?
What Lagoon should have done & still can do .... is share a video tutorial how best to access those bulkheads with the minimalist damage to furniture & fitting. Afterall they know how they fitted those fixtures , so they should know how to disassemble it. They also know the glues they used, thus should know what solvents "soften" them ! The Balance/ nexus company share a video build with its clients. It is the least these companies can do , considering how much money their boats cost. Owners of these boats should be supported with guidance & tutorials.
Not sure what your skill background is but if you are not in engineering/carpentry this might be much harder! They make it look so much easier because they take lots of measurements and have a very good understanding of what they are doing. Its really amazing the work they did on that boat. Good luck to you sir.
You’re definitely right! Colin’s a mechanical engineer with 10yrs of the highest levels of boat engineering experience. I’m just an ex corporate office guy that couldn’t stand working for the man any more! I’m following hos repair closely so I don’t have to make too many [uneducated] choices! I’m just so thankful he was willing to help!
@@david_shih Thanks for the reply man, you are way cool. I hope it works out great. I'm also in the office located in the great state of Texas. DFW actually. Love what you guys are doing and looks so free and awesome! Good luck on your repair David. Also its so awesome you are next to him to be able to talk about the situation before you do it. LOL
I cringe watching a Circ saw on wood under pressure, i’d rather have a Jig-saw or mini recip get pinched mid cut while cutting in weird position just above my leg arteries or other blood enriched areas. …..Tab relief, everything is tabbed, bank on it…man i do not like dust and fiberglass? hopefully you design something to help minimize that. like maybe a second or third vac hooked up to some PVC pipes with holes or slots in it mounted near the grind spots to suck in the airborne dust…and I would even go overboard and have 6 or 7 of these wands hanging to suck the dust as much as possible!! - Good luck - and appreciate seeing the vids no matter how its going…just cool to watch, especially if someone that has discovered theirs is Bent as well….you guys are making it easier for them with every filmed event….
Thanks for the circ saw advice...you scared the crap out of me with the comments on the leg arteries. And I thought i was being safe protecting my hearing...It's amazing how much you overlook and can learn, cheers. I'm done with the grinding and I'll have those videos up in the next few weeks. It was a mess....good lord so much dust. I went with an 8" duct that I adapted to the hatch and then powered it with a 1600cfm duct fan. I also had two 150 cfm shopvacs sucking through a dust deputy. I reduced dust by maybe 50% compared to parlay, but it's not like I was any less itchy... The main advantage was creating negative pressure so the dust didn't go to other parts of the boat [as much].
Cutting it all out with the minimal amount of later visible cuts is certainly a tough job, but rebuilding everything will be expensive in material and labor. I hope you already have an idea where to get that done. If you dump it all, perhaps Colin could use some trimming you don't need any more.
I'm going to use this opportunity to completely remodel the forward cabins...maybe a workshop in 1 and a kids playroom in the other. Funny you mention the trimmings! Colin ended up taking a bunch of them so they have the privilege of forever living on in Parlay! I'll have to do a walk through and have him point out where everything ended up fitting in.
@@david_shih Well, I rebuilt enough stuff to always think about what can be recycled. A small workshop is a great idea! A vice is so much better than working at the dock floor with someone standing on a board as substitute. Sounds like you already have a plan.
Hey JC! Glad you’re watching! It is a bit comical don’t you think? I watched some videos online of some guys working on boats so I thought, “hell, it can’t be that hard, I’ve fixed some drywall holes before.” So I sail all the way down here and try to copy them before I finally realize what I’m actually in for. I laugh about it daily!
I'm sure you are well along now and don't need my advice. But buy wood working dust collection system and use it to collect the dust. Use shop vacuum dust collection for your grinding and sanding machines. Use box fans with heat and air filters on the back side. Move air through as many filters as you can. See woodworking dust collection systems.
I can use all the advice I can get man! Walk me though the box fans--why do they need heat? I ended up going with a dual dust deputies as a dust collection system powered by 2 of those highest CFM shopvacs. To be honest it still wasn't enough to contain the endless amounts of dust!
Give me a email address. I need to send you pictures. Do you have 220 volts available? I used to own a cabinet manufacturing company. Dust removal is a large part of machining wood in a enclosed environment. (Side note: I'm surprised at how the cabinets are built, certainly European, but usually they are integrated into the boat for/to add structural integrity. By shaping them to fit the shape of the hull and tabing them to the hull. I guess they want them to be able to be remodeled without having reinforce the hull. Back to the dust collection. I need to send a few pictures. You will get why you are having problems. It's all cfms, cubic feet per minute. Running a plastic duct work out of the boat connected to big fans or fan. Depending on the budget and availability. But in short you want to replace as much air as possible as closest to your work and move it out of the boat.
The heater filter taped on the back of a box fan. The fan is just pulling air through the filter. No heat just a filter that fits a heat and air handling unit in a home. They sell them a dollar general.
Forget this project the fixed spots will crack again shortly, even if you reinforce them. It’s because that flex will occur above and below the spot. It’s a BAD design, there is no cure. I advise sell the boat and move on. I commend you on your energy and enthusiasm! Great editing!!! Like a Pro.
Hey thanks man, trying hard to stay positive! A part of me worries about exactly what you’re saying-we’re trying to compensate for that by extending and thickening the glass further in all directions. I’m all in on this boat and can’t afford a $100k loss so if it ends up cracking again I’ll be back in the yard I guess.
another nice video and I like your humor too..btw, you gotta get someone to assist you with video editing ..really wanna see you put out video by weekly..
Best solution to get rid of fiberglass dust on your body use baby powder or any kind of powder and a soft shirt or towel to wipe it off your body gently. I actually bought a cheap feather duster. An had one for be4 powder an one for after the powder... It works well...
Every time I hear you say I hate fiberglass dust I have to have a shot between you and Teal from onboard lifestyle saying thicken epoxy I’m f up every Sunday you’re going to need a bigger boat I’m mean better boat I’m mean a helper like Colin has Jamie otherwise when you do glass work its going to harden before you finish laying up the cloth I feel for you JT HOOKED N ROLLING OFFSHORE 🇺🇸🇺🇸🐟🐠🎣🛥🌴⛱🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I'll checked out their channel and omg, so much dust. Yes...definitely need some help when i comes to glassing! Thanks for watching...hope to get the next one out by sunday!
A small piece of my soul dies with every part or my boat demolished…I just hide the pain from you guys. If you want to see me apply the lessons learned from this video, check out this one where I go much easier on the aft cabins! th-cam.com/video/wiYaFSBKJJk/w-d-xo.html
David, Much respect to you for doing this on your own. Not only is it more than twice the work for one man but keeping motivated and positive is the hardest part. Stay strong buddy.
You’re so right, it’s such a mental game. The work doable, but it’s so easy to get caught up and discouraged. I’ve been reading Eckhart Tolle (on Colin’s recommendation) and slowly learning to be more in the moment and stress out much less.
You're on your own, whereas Colin has Jamie, so give yourself kudos for what you've accomplished so far! Go boy go.
well if you put it that way I just might have to treat myself to a good dinner tonight! thanks man!
@@david_shih Well deserved!
Carlos is a god sent! He's amazing!
Your analogy of fiberglass dust is spot on....great work and I give you a ton of credit doing jobs like this alone without a friend sucks....keep the faith
Oh my gosh! That is a LOT of work you’ve done! And it will be a LOT of work replacing everything! I don’t envy you David. You’re doing a great job!
Thanks patti!!!
Hi. Sorry for your bad luck with the boat and I give you props for your never give up attitude.
I have been in construction for over 40 years. The dust can be mitigated with a shop-vack just need a good filter for it.
Also get an oscillating multi tool it can be more precise than a saws all and you can get into tighter areas with it and a little less dust. You can get a nice 24 V Dewalt for around $100.
Next I see the fiberglass has pulled away in places and you are cutting it out so you can grind it smooth so you can start over.
Rather than cut it all out ( a lot of labor and dust. Why not inject Resin into the separated areas let it fill and strengthen, bonding the two back together.
Drill a little hole just through the inner surface this will allow you to inject the separated or delaminated sections less invasive less dust less work. Then maybe apply some fiberglass and resin to the existing pieces to make them stronger.
The boat company should put out a fix like this for your boat. Theirs no need for all that dust and labor. You will still need access to it but with less dust.
Good luck and let me know if this helps
Cheers. Robert
Injecting resin into the separated parts sound like a great idea! But I’m worried about adhesion-you know how fiberglass needs to be ground down before new layers are added (to remove the aiming blush.) I wonder if the separated layers need to be roughed up (which wouldn’t be possible) or suffer adhesion problems. I need to go pickup one of those dewalt multitool-my Ryobi ones suck!
I’m sorry I wasn’t more clear.
I would use an epoxy resin not a fiberglass resin they make all kinds of epoxy’s that will bond that without having to scuff it up some two part that when you push it through the syringe the tube will mix the two parts together creating a chemical reaction that’ll help it set up harder bond stronger and possibly stay flexible if you Do some research and find a good Epoxy for your application. Also instead of cutting out the old bulkhead why not sister a strong thin piece of material to each side of the existing bulkhead. By gluing 1/2 inch sheet of plastic to ether side of the bulkhead or a 1” piece to just one side of it if you can’t access the other side. I would glue it then through bolt it making the 2 new pieces and old bulkhead one strong solid piece. With a lot less mess
Well done David. I really enjoyed your post, you have a great sense of humor. You have a way of finding humor in a really terrible situation, that is a rare gift. I wish you the best and keep at it. Looking forward to your next post.
Thanks for the words of support--means a ton! Working hard to get the next one out in a reasonable time...every sunday is the goal!
David - no kidding about Colin & Jamie making it look easy. Well, not really… they made it look miserable and brutal and awful but maybe, just maybe doable - because they’ve got so much experience. Good on you for doing serious dust collection. It may not stop the itching but your lungs will last a lot longer. Also, A+ for hearing protection - I lost about 50% in my right ear from working on boats and in workshops. It’s no joke.
Love your attitude, keep it up!
Wow! Sorry to hear about the hearing. Thanks for the support! Happy to know you’re watching and enjoying! Can’t wait to get the next vid out soon!
Same Tom 50% one ear 30% the other not much fun as you get older
@@warrentuckwell2032 sorry bro, how did you lose yours? From tools as well?
I’ve been watching you since parlay introduced you, you make a really bad situation look a hell of a lot better look then it really is.
I’m enjoying your channel. I’m a fan keep it up- the humour & positive attitude makes my day better.
Sweet! Yeah parlay is awesome. Not only Is he teaching me how to fix my boat, but encouraging me to do TH-cam as well!
Please feel free to share any requests or recommendations for the vids. Thoughts on mixing in some variety like a trip to the Panama Canal? Or do you prefer 100% boat work?
Dave, you’ll get a ton of experience out of this task for sure! Keep up the good safety habits and pass them on. Well done sir!
Will do sir, thanks for watching!!!
HELL yah bro. You're killing it !!!
RIP tear & scare! Wowzers David. Wowzers. 👍😎👍
It’s been an adventure for sure!!!
I am full of admiration for you Bro!
Great video!! I HATE fiberglass dust!! Can’t wait to see this repair completed.
Thanks bro! New video coming this week!
Great video David, I always look forward to them.
Really glad to hear. Working hard to get one out for you next week!
Great video again. You are such a great narrator. It will be nice to see where this channel will go in the future. I really do hope, that you will keep making these videos, and share you story with us. I am watching these, even though I have zero experience on sailing or so. I am a freaking hillbilly living 130 km north from the frigging Arctic Circle, here in Finland. And still, I am watching random dude taking apart he's sailing catamaran at the other side of the world :D But there is something in these videos, that keep me coming back. So thanks for there and good luck with the project.
Finland! I have a really good friend from there who has told me so many fun stories about your country. What a wonderful place I hope to visit one day. One of my favorite youtubers (Matti Haapoj) is from there as well. So happy to have you watching and sharing in the adventure. Hope to be able to show you actual sailing one day soon!
@@david_shih Despite the fact, that we are relatively small nation, us Finns, it seems that everyone know at least one of us. :D
But anyway, for the strangest reason I am currently watching loads of sailing videos ( Parlay, Nahoa, Hakuna, Uma, Florence etc). And now yours. I have once been on a small monohull. And that was in a marina and we were waisted. But now I have huge urge to go and see, if sailing would be my thing. Maybe I need to rent a catamaran from Croatia or so, and do my test, before doing something that I might regret :D
Yourself and Colin are doing this hell because you are boat owners, it sort of makes sense the extremes you are going through. Why is Jamie doing it.. it can't be for fun ! He's a great guy no doubts. Good luck to you all at Linton Bay Marina, it's a life journey that will fill your hearts and souls ! (hopefully not just with fibreglass dust!) Be safe folks :)
Both those guys are selfless man...we'll get though it eventually, I hope. Thanks so much for following along!
@@david_shih you need to find you a Jaime to be a best bud right hand man guy. Unfortunately a person like Jaime is hard to find. Lol
@@AverageJoeShmo Can definitely use some help that's for sure!
Just keep the prize in mind. I had a project recently where the TH-cam video said it would be around a 10 hour project. Reality was it was more like a 60 hour project. Multiple times I felt the same as you where wanting to abandon the project. When you get to that point, take a break and remember you are rebuilding a Lagoon 450! An amazing boat! The effort is worth the reward and when completed the worst of it will pale to the prize. Keep at it and keep your head focused on the reward at the end. Good luck!
Sounds like you’ve been where im at! I’m well aware that everything takes 3x as long on a boat, but what they don’t tell you is it’s 10x if you’re doing it for the 1st time! I’m having a blast though…it’s an adventure! And you’re right…the end is definitely worth it…can’t wait to be on the water and diving into that beautiful water!
You are clearly tough and will manage this mammoth task. You can do it!
Keep on movin on David. You have it right, one step at a time.
Thanks Gus! Party on the boat once im done!!!!
LMAO I watched Parlay's video earlier and Colin kept getting drowned out by the sound of somebody working hard with a grinder. I knew instantly who it had to be.
Haha!!! Yeah...guilty! Btw, did i mention I hate fiberglass dust?
Hahaha me too
@@svthorasailing4868 oh god it’s so horrible. You just don’t understand until you’ve been covered in it, which It sounds like you have.
@Popeye yeah because he knows his wife watches the boys,haha
@Popeye haha!!! The funniest is when Colin is filming and I’m yelling from my boat to get his attention to ask him a question. sorry bro!
Cheers brother! You can do it 💯
thanks Brandon! Appreciate it!
Go David the destroyer, wish you well man, good to see your making headway. See you at the next episode.
Oooh nice... So far there's "The Butcher," "Demolition Man," and now David "The Destroyer." I love it!
Watching sailing channels I now realize how much of the owner's time is spent maintaining their boat and fixing problems. It never ends.
You’re right about that. The crazy thing is that more things are breaking even as I’m fixing the bulkheads.
Hi David! I’m not a sea person… but I like the ingenuity you showed! Parlay Chanel is awesome but I like yours as well! You should upload onde a week! If I had a chance I would travel there to help you with the work. Hope you all recovered well! Take Care and stay safe.
Thanks Artur! I'm trying my absolute best to get to 1 upload a week, but I'm so slow at editing everything. I'm getting better though! We're all good now, thanks so much for watching and let me know if you're ever in the area! Texas or Panama!
I surely hope you upload the rest of your nightmare,, lol You put a spin on your situation with a hint of humor.. I could have watched an hour of this mastery of carpentry.. Oh yes I subscribed instantly and wish you the best.. You will persevere and your boat will be better. Oh yeah I like to see the look on Lagoon Executives faces when they see your video.. You and Collin have shed light on this structural problem and Lagoon should pay some kind of cost,, at least materials.. Bravo Sir and good luck
Ah great to hear! Glad you enjoyed it. Will definitely upload more as fast as I can edit it!
DAVID YOUR THE MAN !!!! KEEP GOING, JUST HIRE A COUPLE GUYS TO CARRY SHIT OUT AND RUN THE VACUMN. THEN GET JAMIE REAL SHIT-FACED AND SIGN HIM TO A PERSONAL SERVICE CONTRACT TO FINISH THE JOB. !!!!!!
Not a bad idea my man!!!!
Keep going man you can do it👍👍
Thanks chad! Will do, won’t quit!
The lagoon bulkhead video James made, it's obvious that the Lagoons are completely loose and sloppy, but your description of the rigging getting tightened over time is very interesting. I wish you luck!!
Yeah. I just looked at a lagoon 500 a few weeks ago with massive 1 inch cracks/separation in the bulkheads on both sides. I guess it’s not just the 450s.
David, thank you for your well-done videos and the hard work that goes into them. I know it's a distraction from the real work taking place on the boat. Please be mindful of safety and get a box of safety glasses, gloves, and some footwear whilst smashing and pulling. I'd hate for you to be out of service for a couple of mending weeks because of something stupid.
Tell us more about what you learned from Parlay and how you are doing it differently or why your strategy better fits your needs. You have fewer resources and just as much work. I liked your mental approach and I think that's a good start. Something I have to keep front of mind for my own major tasks.
Thanks for the suggestions! Really appreciate it. I’ll definitely get some glasses…feel a bit foolish bc I should know better! Also, great idea on talking about strategy! Thanks for the valuable feedback.
Looks like it's going to be the first open plan Lagoon 450 design out there. Keep going!
Dude I love that...."Open Concept Lagoon 450"! I'm totally going to do that. Great idea Graham!
Open concept sleeping salon 😁
@@lionheart9375 and then a full walled in tunnel crawl space for the kids to connect the 2 hulls in the hallway.
@@david_shih I think your onto something here … make it work and fun for your family nothing else matters. 😁.
@@lionheart9375 you’re right about that. Most people (me included) tend to make decisions based solely on resale value, but what about ‘my experience’ value? I’m starting to think that should probably be worth more.
Great job and kudos to you for such a huge endeavor! Love the Video's and your Spirit, wish I was 20 years younger and I might be your sidekick, LOL. You need to find your own Jamie. Good luck and cant wait to see your boat.
Wish I had your experience with all this....I'm certain you could have disassemble the cabinets in less time it took me to kick them! Once I get this baby back to texas we can have some boat work parties!
Holy shit David you weren't kidding, you really did tear that shit up lol. I guess your going to be needing a kreg when it comes time to rebuilding that chaos lol
Kreg? Like pocket holes? Hell yes, forgot I have a set at home. I’ll have to bring it next time. Thanks!
@@david_shih yes sir.i Iove mine
I sure do like your positive attitude through this mess.
Hey thanks! If I don't keep laughing I'd cry. Appreciate you following the journey!
You are going to have one hell of a lifetime story to tell, lol.
Sorry this happened to you, but you have the right attitude. Do what it takes, fix it, be done forever and take all the experiences with you.
Thanks!!! Will do! Got that right…what a story.
Just want to give you a supportive “well done mate”.
I like the idea to focus at one day at the time, so you can mentally handle the stress of this major project👍
a genuine thank you! Knowing that I can share all this with you guys actuallly makes it easier!
Cheers, keep it up, David!
Will do, thanks!!!
Someone has probably already said this, but putting the screws in ziploc bags & labeling them, then taping the baggies to a panel will help. I don't envy you one little bit. Stay strong, and you've got this. You do need a "Jamie", always easier with a second set of hands.
Thanks for the advice Kay! Will try that next time.
David - Enjoyed my visit to Litton Bay and being able to hang with you for a couple of days, viewing on TH-cam and then in real life really shows the amount of work you have been doing. Keep it up guy the sail back to Kemah is in your near future! 🌊⛴. Need crew I'll be there 😀
Thanks brother, glad you enjoyed it!
You doing it by yourself so don't be so hard on yourself I know now hard it is and the mountain that you are going to climb and now deep you are going to have to dig but you are going to sail out of Panama and we will cheer you on.
aw thanks bad old dad! I really appreciate it, and knowing that I'm getting to share this crazy process with you guys makes it all easier!
Good on you David for getting stuck into the repairs by yourself (with a little guidance, advice and sometimes help from Colin and Jamie).
Like your can do attitude. I had to laugh at Colin in his last post with the grinder starting up in the background from a neighbours boat. Figured that it was you lol.
What are your plans for the cabins after the structural repairs, as the panels don’t look as though they can be reinstalled?
Are you going to do an owners conversion?
And where are you planning to do the cabinetry and panel replacement?
Once again David, I really enjoy your posts.
Hang in there mate.
Cheers
Those pieces definitely can’t be salvage. Those broken pieces definitely can’t be salvaged. And the good pieces have been transplanted into Parlay during their cabin reassembly. I was planning to do a custom workshop/office on one side. I love your idea of an owners conversion-that should help resale value too if I do it right! I’ll rebuild the cabins back in Texas, where I can find a Home Depot or Lowe’s close by!
You tha man dude. Great vid
Amazing! What a determination!
Thank you! I gotta get this boat fixed and get back to the family in Texas!!!!
I hope you bagged all screws and marked where they go on a paper inside. Also hope you have lots of pics to figure out where everything goes... Seems a refit may be in order though!! I cannot even immmmmaggggine it!!! Even though I have been watching PARLEY from the beginning and yours as well, I still cannot even imagine it... Best of luck to you!!
Thanks Steve....i was indeed bagging and labeling everything at first, but it slowly evolved into 2 boxes with mixtures of every screw imaginable.
@@david_shih Well David, just know that there are a pile of us out here cheering you on.. Who knows, maybe the boat builder will refit it for you!! After YOU make the boat unbreakable, that is!! ;)
Well done! Probably a bit late for this suggestion, but when I do grinding and paint on my steel boat, I use a 12” extractor fan that has a long exhaust tube. It shifts 65m3 of air a minute. I used it when I shotblasted the inside of my outriggers (1 metre diameter by about 9metres) and then painted them and it really kept the dust under control.
Not at all, appreciate the advice. I ended up using something similar, but an 8” duct fan with an exhaust tube to the ground. Definitely helped, but man the remaining dust still took over the boat!
Don't reinforce glass to plywood one thing kids get wrong you have Coosa board which is way more structural then instead of going the regular route start thinking about bridging the gap with carbon fiber,Kevlar, Arameid have I mentioned g-10 fiberglass plates yet you have so many opportunities with the technology yeah parley is doing a nice job using oem parts take it up a notch and make these little parts in the boat bomb proof
It’s nice your partners going to help with making the decision sometimes we all need support. Only one way to go now butchered it
Shame man, poor cat! Glad it's ok. You will get this done and in a year or two sit back and laugh about it. Making memories and friends, you can't complain. You'll have some legit cool stories to tell the grandkids one day.
You’re right about…i definitely have a few awesome stories from this whole adventure!
Awesome episode bro. Maybe Colin should go with you when you use the storage. 🤣😹 Keep up the great work. You will laugh looking back on it while you're sailing mate. 👍
You’re hilarious! You should start putting up your videos every week, I’d love to watch!
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Doing my Best to get vids up for you every Sunday. Question, how would you feel about having Some variety (like visiting the Panama Canal or exploring the Panamanian jungle) instead of all breaking and fixing the boat content?
@@david_shih It's super entertaining to watch both types of content but balance between content is not important at all for me. 100% boat fixing content for months would be amazing and vice versa. Id prefer you to do whatever you would if you werent filming. Itd feel more genuine
@@roldvibe6963 excellent. Great to hear. Maybe I’ll throw in a bit more of the other stuff we do around here.
@@david_shih sounds great 🤩
lol Mate your smashing the shit out of everything guess the frustration has kicked into overdrive
You know what, It really was quite theraputic. I really needed to let out some of that built up stress of having a broken boat.
hah good job David keep at it man! For keeping track of screws get ziplock bags and then put the screws in while you go, then once you get a piece out, tape the bag to the piece!
Thanks for the tip....but sadly ive already got 2 mixed boxes of every screw you can imagine...
@@david_shih Dont worry about labeling all the wood screws, I will help you when its time. I never use to label screw bags taking airplanes apart till my eyesight started failing. LOL
@@deanboyd587 excellent! Looking forward to it!
i love the true reality of what boat building is all about. Often, it can be heart breaking... unless you are charging $200 p/hour to fix someone's heartache problems... Well done with the token find and hope the coins reach millions soon.
Thanks brother! It’s hard to convey how difficult all the boat work is. There’s just so many contrasting systems from structure fiberglass to wiring electrical. I’m learning a ton and it’s getting easier by the day.
We are following you on the tear out... Are you going in with all new cabinets. Seems like an interior rebuild might just be easier post bulkhead repair. Vs. Broken pieces to a puzzle?? Can't wait to see her in the water again soon.
Thanks for following!!!!yes absolutely going to go with new cabinets and probably a whole cabin rebuild! Felt like I was the perfect excuse to do a custom cabin build.
@@david_shih sure looked like there was extra space found in Colin's video that lagoon's design covered up. Haha... A design cover-up by Lagoon. Best in the finishing rebuild.
David. You may be back in the water soon. But the broken cabin pieces you want to rebuild can be traced out on plastic to have a pattern of and then trashed. Roll up the plastic and sail home and have new pieces cut to the patterns and rebuild her in Texas.
@@RandolphSanchez01 not a bad idea, but unfortunately the broken pieces are trashed already and the good piece have been transplanted into Parlay to tag along on the circumnavigation and fulfill their destiny as little boat parts.
@@david_shih that's awesome sir.
you need to get yourself a jamie brother
badly! they're fresh out here in panama!
@@david_shih Bribery.....
@@edfrawley4356 heck yeah Ed! How about endless beers and seafood?
@PianellaHoneyPot I've got a couple workers lined up for when i get back to Panama in a few days. Obviously they can't compare to Jamie or Colin. Can't wait to get all this fiberglassing done!
@@david_shih Yup should work. Seafood first and then a icebucket of beer "After" the days work is done.
your shipwright skills might not been on par with Parlay, but your editing skills are on another level.
Aw sweet man thx. Now I just gotta get faster…was just talking to Colin about how he’s able to stay consistent year after year and have a video every week. Not easy!
Shame Lagoon don't make bulkheads as strong as cupboards!! Keep up the hard work, you know it will be worth it in the end. You could also enquire about Colin and Jamies day rates ....
I've floated the idea here and there, but once I actually got into it I quickly realized there's really no reasonable price someone could pay me to get in there and grind. We do it for the love of our boats and the dream of circumnavigating one day. But jeez....its so demoralizing in there!
Great video 📹! AGAIN! Can't wait to see all the tabs done and back together. Ooo? Are you going to have to put in New cabinets in some spots or use the old ones?
Ok tell next time ⏲️
Aloha and Mahalo from the Big Island 🏝of Hawaii 🏝
Hey Bill! I'm thinking we'll tear out the entire bed as well and build it out as a sweet workshop/office. Maybe a submarine style bunk from floor to ceiling to fit all the kids in the other side. I'm open to ideas! What do you think?
@@david_shih A tool room a must! If you can do it i would. You always need a place to work on stuff. Most it is motors, electronics stuff like that. It also gives you a place to work on diving gear ⚙ and to store your tools 🔧 and fishing 🎣stuff. Extra parts, for your engines and parts like for the head or parts for the galley like water pumps stuff like that. And yes you can still have bunks in the for the kids or Extra guests 😉.
And it may be easier to build it the way you want it. Sents you are allready have it torn out why not make it a tool/ work/ diving/ parts storage/ kids sleeping room.
Does that help?
P.s. May have to talk on the phone .so menny thinks to say.
Let me know if it helps?
I could tell you how i did my forward cabin on our boat 🚢. How i had a vise and a diving compressor all in there and you wouldn't of known it was there. Lol
@@kptbillburkett8735 definitely, I want to hear all about it.
Your famous bill! I saw you on wesail!!!
Good job !
Thanks!!! Working hard to have more to show you next Sunday!
Yo… that’s hard work right there. 😱
David, for keeping fiberglass dust out of your suit, you may built positive pressure with a light hose and a small corded blower (kept outside) connected to the suit. Great video on top of the real work! Although you may want to structure it a little bit with an introduction at the beginning and a sneak peek of next episode at the end (too much work, just a thought).
Hey thanks for the feedback on both fronts, very useful!! I’ll see how I can implement on the next vid!
@@david_shih Adds cooling too , BUT also adds another thing in the way to trip over .
David want to share a hint.. i use to work for a company for 15 years we worked with fiberglass everyday.. use baby powder before you suit up helps the fiberglass wont stick to you and helps with the itch and fiberglass rash. look forward to watching you rebuild your cat.
how did u do it for 15 years?! respect! will be buying baby powder by the boat load...but not my boat bc its broke.
Love ya vids brother
aw thanks man!
@@david_shih Anytime bro keep it up, yeow!
All I can say is well done, it must be heart-braking at times to think you have to do so much to make your boat safe, shame i'm on the other side of the pond otherwise I would come down to help ..... it would be a dream in fact to get out of our seven months of house arrest ( thanks to Covid lockdowns ) Let me know if you ever head Down Under ...
Hope you get out of lock down soon! Stay safe, and hope you get on a boat soon.
Love that hair doo! Gnarly, almost like Colin, but more cool!
Thanks man! I tried to grow my hair out like Colin but just couldn't take the Panamanian heat and humidity! Plus I wanted to be read for when I drop fully wetted out fiberglass with epoxy on my head.
If I wasn't so far away I would honestly would help you. those guys at parley make it look so easy
Means a lot man! It’s a short 3.5 hr flight from Texas! Endless beers as well!
Dude you are great story teller - feel bad for you - Lagoon needs to cough up some Dinero $$$ Good luck
all good bro...we got her all fixed up and she's stronger than ever now! :)
Good luck, David
Thanks edward! and appreciate you following along for the journey!
Great content and editing mate.
Enjoying your misery. Lol
👍🏼🇦🇺
Thanks mate!!! I’m enjoying that you’re enjoying my misery!!!
🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣 Best comment and reply comment ever!!!!
Probably too late now, however, before grinding fiberglass cover yourself in baby powder, it will fill your pores and block the dust.
It won't stop the itch entirely but it does help a LOT!
Thanks bud! I'll keep that in mind...where do they sell industrial size baby powder?
@@david_shih Johnson and Johnson are trying to shift a few tonnes after the court case went south to the tune two billion dollars!
@@WylieECoyote56 whoa 2B? What happened, I’m out of the loop on current events at the moment.
Screws and "bits"
A large pack of quart and gallon freezer ziploc bags and a black sharpie..
Picture, bag it and tag it.. I like to take a pic of bag of parts, labeled, in the photo of what they went too
So if you take off the ceiling then bag all those parts, label it, and then lay the bag somewhere in the photo with the label visible..
you can even get more OCD with the system but basically that works. Freezer bags because sandwich or regular aren't as "tough"
good tip with freezer vs sandwich bags since screws are pointy. I like the pic tip too. Do you do a lot of rebuilding?
@@david_shih I do. prob the last 25 years or more.
I am just a nutter that can't stay away from vintage boats. Mostly larger " trailer sailors" I am helping a lad now do a full restoration on it. I have a boat lift in the backyard I made.
My current project is a 1972 British Microplus 16 ft cabin cruiser. transom, stringers, floor, everything. It is the only Microplus in the USA
yes take a photo of the labled bag, with the parts, in the area they came from... this helps "old brains" remember vs a lot of random numbers and letters you don't remember anymore
cheers from NC (originally from ruislip UK)
following with great interest
try or have a look at this respirator - air cooled as well AU $700. mainly used for a wood turning lathe , but would adapt to any situation ....Trend Airshield PRO Respirator
Zipper lock Baggs for screws labeled 🏷
Damn like damn damn its a crazy task i hope it comes out as good as parley did 🙏
Me too! With Colin’s guidance it’s looking good!
Yeh that fiberglass dust sucks absolute complete balls of ARGGGGG. Tips wash or shower in cold water after, this will stop your paws of your skin from opening up. If they do the aaaarrrrrgggg gets worse. A lot ducking worse 😷🥺🥴😭 thanks for the update 🖐😷👍
Will do! I’ve been told baby powder helps as well. Thanks for the tips. F fiberglass dust!
Don't sell yourself short PR have each other to lean on and help motivate each other on the daily. Working alone on a shit job can be harder and scarier than anything!!!! Keep up the good work and if you need some motivation/venting therapy channel those feelings into the parts of the boat that failed. Basically fold those feeling back into the problem if that makes sense....don't look at it as destroying your boat......look at it as destroying the obstacle preventing you from living the life you want to live. Sometimes you have to rage at a problem before you can make it your bitch. lol I am going through something similar with an RV I bought....it took me forever to get started on repairing her because I looked at it as destroying something that would help me live a dream of mine...once I wrapped my head around the fact that her issues where standing in the way of living how I wanted to live it was a lot easier and less scary to get started with destroying what on the outside looked perfectly fine. Great honested video!!!
“Sometimes you have to rage at a problem before making it your bitch…I love it. I’m going to make these bulkheads my bitch. Thank you for the awesome advice on staying sane! Good luck with the Rv!!!!
I know you will and we all will enjoy battle and revel in the triumph with y'all when she is back in the water!!!!!!!
"It is a blessing for a man to have a hand in determining his own fate" ~Blackbeard
You’re lucky to be near them during this if only to know about the fiberglass dust that you got to plan for... It’s definitely been a SAD, SAD process though, however it’s on the good things now like adding the extension ramp which lets you know, it’s going to be okay! Good Luck to you! You’re too smart for it not to work out anyway! 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
Thanks for the luck!!!!! I can use every bit I can get. Seeing Parlay get through this all and ending up better than before gives me tons of hope!
I there was a 90's song about a Wrecking Ball..."Wrecking Ball" is a 1989 song by Neil Young, included in the album Freedom.
Siri, Play Wrecking Bal...
hahah!!! Should have used that as the background music!!
@@david_shih Just listened to the Emmy Lou Harris version, sounds more tragic.
You are amazing. I know you have Parlay next to you but doing it on your own is hard work and you remain in good spirits, I don't know how you do it. Hopefully Parlay are there long enough to give advice through the worst of your process.
Yeah Parlay has been a godsend. They’re still around extending their sugar scoops so thats a huge plus!
You're so funny!! I know you're suffering but you make it look like fun suffer ☺ make sense? Cool buzz cut btw!
Makes sense! Fun suffering is better than real suffering!
@@david_shih 💪 yours seems harder than Parlay's coz you're a one man show!! Hope you find at least one more pair of hands to assist ya. AmaZing 🖐🖐
Well they build the cabinets really great! They should have those guys show the others how to build the boat 🤪
Can’t argue there! Those cabinets and cabins are rock solid!
Wow lots of work.
Very! But we're getting throught it slowly!
If you get the boat sound again you could sail it back to Texas and draft your wife into helping with the interior design and construction.
She would love that! But then I might not get my custom workshop in one of the forward cabins. It'll end up as a yoga studio or something...
You need the Revivalists😂💪
Yes sir!!! How's it going Peter?
@@david_shih All good in Hong Kong Bro. Hope to meet up with you and the family someday, grab a Yum Cha or dinner. 👍Are you going to refit the carpentry / cabins back in the US?
What Lagoon should have done & still can do .... is share a video tutorial how best to access those bulkheads with the minimalist damage to furniture & fitting. Afterall they know how they fitted those fixtures , so they should know how to disassemble it.
They also know the glues they used, thus should know what solvents "soften" them !
The Balance/ nexus company share a video build with its clients.
It is the least these companies can do , considering how much money their boats cost.
Owners of these boats should be supported with guidance & tutorials.
Agree, agree, agree, and agree!
Not sure what your skill background is but if you are not in engineering/carpentry this might be much harder! They make it look so much easier because they take lots of measurements and have a very good understanding of what they are doing. Its really amazing the work they did on that boat. Good luck to you sir.
You’re definitely right! Colin’s a mechanical engineer with 10yrs of the highest levels of boat engineering experience. I’m just an ex corporate office guy that couldn’t stand working for the man any more! I’m following hos repair closely so I don’t have to make too many [uneducated] choices! I’m just so thankful he was willing to help!
@@david_shih Thanks for the reply man, you are way cool. I hope it works out great. I'm also in the office located in the great state of Texas. DFW actually. Love what you guys are doing and looks so free and awesome! Good luck on your repair David. Also its so awesome you are next to him to be able to talk about the situation before you do it. LOL
That bulkhead still being off could just be that the wood is warped from being wet and bent so long... id say it looks a ton better than before.
Yes definitely better! Mine wasn’t wet though, but definitely deformed for years!
I cringe watching a Circ saw on wood under pressure, i’d rather have a Jig-saw or mini recip get pinched mid cut while cutting in weird position just above my leg arteries or other blood enriched areas. …..Tab relief, everything is tabbed, bank on it…man i do not like dust and fiberglass? hopefully you design something to help minimize that. like maybe a second or third vac hooked up to some PVC pipes with holes or slots in it mounted near the grind spots to suck in the airborne dust…and I would even go overboard and have 6 or 7 of these wands hanging to suck the dust as much as possible!! - Good luck - and appreciate seeing the vids no matter how its going…just cool to watch, especially if someone that has discovered theirs is Bent as well….you guys are making it easier for them with every filmed event….
Thanks for the circ saw advice...you scared the crap out of me with the comments on the leg arteries. And I thought i was being safe protecting my hearing...It's amazing how much you overlook and can learn, cheers. I'm done with the grinding and I'll have those videos up in the next few weeks. It was a mess....good lord so much dust. I went with an 8" duct that I adapted to the hatch and then powered it with a 1600cfm duct fan. I also had two 150 cfm shopvacs sucking through a dust deputy. I reduced dust by maybe 50% compared to parlay, but it's not like I was any less itchy... The main advantage was creating negative pressure so the dust didn't go to other parts of the boat [as much].
Cutting it all out with the minimal amount of later visible cuts is certainly a tough job, but rebuilding everything will be expensive in material and labor. I hope you already have an idea where to get that done. If you dump it all, perhaps Colin could use some trimming you don't need any more.
I'm going to use this opportunity to completely remodel the forward cabins...maybe a workshop in 1 and a kids playroom in the other. Funny you mention the trimmings! Colin ended up taking a bunch of them so they have the privilege of forever living on in Parlay! I'll have to do a walk through and have him point out where everything ended up fitting in.
@@david_shih Well, I rebuilt enough stuff to always think about what can be recycled. A small workshop is a great idea! A vice is so much better than working at the dock floor with someone standing on a board as substitute. Sounds like you already have a plan.
@@michaelhaardt5988 oh man I’ve done the “standing-on-it” vice method. No fun. Will definitely include a vice, thanks for the suggestion.
Hi David. You guys manage to make this project seems comical. I'm sure it's not, but if you can't laugh at it, you wouldn't be able to do it.
Hey JC! Glad you’re watching! It is a bit comical don’t you think? I watched some videos online of some guys working on boats so I thought, “hell, it can’t be that hard, I’ve fixed some drywall holes before.” So I sail all the way down here and try to copy them before I finally realize what I’m actually in for. I laugh about it daily!
I'm sure you are well along now and don't need my advice. But buy wood working dust collection system and use it to collect the dust. Use shop vacuum dust collection for your grinding and sanding machines. Use box fans with heat and air filters on the back side. Move air through as many filters as you can. See woodworking dust collection systems.
I can use all the advice I can get man! Walk me though the box fans--why do they need heat? I ended up going with a dual dust deputies as a dust collection system powered by 2 of those highest CFM shopvacs. To be honest it still wasn't enough to contain the endless amounts of dust!
Give me a email address. I need to send you pictures. Do you have 220 volts available? I used to own a cabinet manufacturing company. Dust removal is a large part of machining wood in a enclosed environment. (Side note: I'm surprised at how the cabinets are built, certainly European, but usually they are integrated into the boat for/to add structural integrity. By shaping them to fit the shape of the hull and tabing them to the hull. I guess they want them to be able to be remodeled without having reinforce the hull.
Back to the dust collection. I need to send a few pictures. You will get why you are having problems. It's all cfms, cubic feet per minute. Running a plastic duct work out of the boat connected to big fans or fan. Depending on the budget and availability. But in short you want to replace as much air as possible as closest to your work and move it out of the boat.
The heater filter taped on the back of a box fan. The fan is just pulling air through the filter. No heat just a filter that fits a heat and air handling unit in a home. They sell them a dollar general.
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I'm able to find videos on most of it. Duh I didn't think of it. I will post videos and I don't need to have a email address.
Forget this project the fixed spots will crack again shortly, even if you reinforce them. It’s because that flex will occur above and below the spot. It’s a BAD design, there is no cure. I advise sell the boat and move on. I commend you on your energy and enthusiasm! Great editing!!! Like a Pro.
Hey thanks man, trying hard to stay positive! A part of me worries about exactly what you’re saying-we’re trying to compensate for that by extending and thickening the glass further in all directions. I’m all in on this boat and can’t afford a $100k loss so if it ends up cracking again I’ll be back in the yard I guess.
You can put screws in ziploks and write where they go on the bag
Thanks Andrew! Will give that a go next time…
another nice video and I like your humor too..btw, you gotta get someone to assist you with video editing ..really wanna see you put out video by weekly..
Will do will do! My footage is a mess so no one can help me edit at the moment, but I promise I’ll figure it out any get to a video a week soon!!!!
Hang in there. You will be on the water before you know it!
Thanks bro!
You can really grasp the scope of the destruction in this video…
Best solution to get rid of fiberglass dust on your body use baby powder or any kind of powder and a soft shirt or towel to wipe it off your body gently. I actually bought a cheap feather duster. An had one for be4 powder an one for after the powder... It works well...
Ok I’ll try anything. Was sanding some plywood with a few small pieces of dry epoxy and fiberglass and itched all night.
Every time I hear you say I hate fiberglass dust I have to have a shot between you and Teal from onboard lifestyle saying thicken epoxy I’m f up every Sunday you’re going to need a bigger boat I’m mean better boat I’m mean a helper like Colin has Jamie otherwise when you do glass work its going to harden before you finish laying up the cloth I feel for you JT HOOKED N ROLLING OFFSHORE 🇺🇸🇺🇸🐟🐠🎣🛥🌴⛱🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I'll checked out their channel and omg, so much dust. Yes...definitely need some help when i comes to glassing! Thanks for watching...hope to get the next one out by sunday!
Yes!!! Fiberglass dust and metal shards from dai grinders are the worst!!!!
I haven't had to deal with the metal shards just yet...but ugh the dust...
Redesign and rebuilding is a great idea. Less Ikea, more innovation.
Yes sir! Just hope I can get the finish to a high enough level/quality! But I’ll film it all for you guys either way.
Dude I dunno if I can watch your channel anymore. I winced every time you “removed” a piece of the cabin. 😳🤣🤣
A small piece of my soul dies with every part or my boat demolished…I just hide the pain from you guys. If you want to see me apply the lessons learned from this video, check out this one where I go much easier on the aft cabins! th-cam.com/video/wiYaFSBKJJk/w-d-xo.html