That grip is magic. I tried every forehand grip, the Tsispas one is the most powerful and efficient for me. I use it with a 21Kg tension, it goes so fast.
Getting the right foot to come through and land ahead of the left foot has really worked for me. Combining that with a high catch-the-racket finish and my accuracy and power is x 3.
Brilliant analysis. I have been trying over recent weeks to change up my forehand a bit towards the Tsisipas style. So far so good. Need to get on top of it a little bit but it is such a good reliable shot when it is working. Gets plenty of power and net clearance. And with the right racquet and timing brings a good level of control to the shot. Your analysis will help quite a bit going forward! Thanks
Simon, one more thing that is very interesting you may already know. On ATP TV often times they will at end of sets and matches show the spin rates on the players forehands and backhands. Tsitsipas is at the very top off both sides. His forehand spin rates on par with the highest forehand spin rate players such as Nadal, Berenttini, Ruud, Sock, Fognini.
Simon, I just watched your outstanding analysis on the Tsitsipas fh again. So much great info here. I certainly agree with you Tsitsipas has a lot of Del Po type technique in his forehand. I love how you pointed on Tsitsipas goes from a neutral wrist in his fh prep, until the last second supination, when the racquet lag happens just before contact. A very simple clean technique. Seems like he kind of just bypasses the pat the dog(pronated arm position) by using this neutral wrist supination thing(like Delpo as you astutely pointed out.)
Technically it is one of the best in the tour, he sometimes loses timing, he can grow even more consistency with repetitions (he's still too young). Tactically he uses the inside-out, inside-in forehands so well, he combines them with great quality net play!
In this video, he doesn't close his racket face like many pros do. I have noticed that since few years. But I'm seeing recently that he is closing his racket at "slot position" from where racket lag happens. To cut down on mis hits that he can do sometimes?
Very well analysed! From suppinating the arm is not much telled while explaining forehands. It should be integrated more as it is a very important factor to generate speed in forehands. Thank you Simon - good work!
Can you analyze Nadal's serve? I think he has switched to an eastern backhand grip for many years now. Beretini also seems to have a non-continental grip when serving too. Any serve analysis of the two would be just great!
So grateful! Excellent analysis! This ties in so well with you last instruction on not giving ground, or shortening our swings according to the time we have. I had a thought.. (unrelated to this excellent lesson). would you tell us more about techniques you use to focus or shut out distractions on noisy public courts(we have basketball half courts with boom boxes playing rap all around one of our public courts and it is a challenge to focus. But I also get distracted in tournaments when on a show court) and how to stop over thinking whist playing a match, but rather save that for after? These seem to be big issues for me at least.
Great analysis, kind of a straight arm Agassi as you say. I kind of like how he just bypasses the pat the dog and just supinates into the kind of Del Po staying on racquet edge. Fed kind of dies this motion on forehand return of serves. Saves time it seems, but Fed can have plenty of time anything he does ha.
Actually it is not a classic flat forehand. Stefanos has shown that he can switch gears between high bouncing top spin forehands and great flatter approach shots. He has such a variety that allows him to anticipate deep runs in tournaments of any surface. So, classic, yes, I agree, in terms of the kind of grip used, but very modern in variety and all around style of play.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I don't know if there is any value in it. But maybe something on Timing if you haven't already done it? Like timing when to start your backswing; when to start stepping in.
He finally fixed it years later. Now he goes into extension before accelerating the racquet and it’s more consistent now. He had too much variance in the stroke during take back creating the U you see before his hips fire. His new forehand is so much better looks like rest of the tour guys.
It depends how you define the grip, heel pad location vs index base vs position of the V. I define it predominantly by the location of the heel pad, since that’s the largest supporter for the grip
I usually do an open stance when I use a modern forehand, and when I want to hit the ball up front. Almost all of my shots are performed open or semi closed stances
Tsitsipas hits through the ball, flatter, yet his forehand has 3050 rpm (average, ATP source), just outside the top 10 of the topspin rate chart. Am I missing something?
That’s his average rate, meaning he can hit with much more or much less topspin. Do they have a range of RPM for him? I’m sure it’s a massive difference
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial That makes sense, thanks. It actually looks like Tsitsi varies the amount of rotation on both sides. “They” surely have the range of RPM, but it's not available to the public.
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That grip is magic. I tried every forehand grip, the Tsispas one is the most powerful and efficient for me. I use it with a 21Kg tension, it goes so fast.
I know what you are talking about, I love the Eastern forehand grip as well.
Interesting analysis! A Federer/Agassi hybrid forehand. Two of the best forehands ever. I like it 👍
Getting the right foot to come through and land ahead of the left foot has really worked for me. Combining that with a high catch-the-racket finish and my accuracy and power is x 3.
Finally! There’s barely any videos on his forehand
Brilliant analysis. I have been trying over recent weeks to change up my forehand a bit towards the Tsisipas style. So far so good. Need to get on top of it a little bit but it is such a good reliable shot when it is working. Gets plenty of power and net clearance. And with the right racquet and timing brings a good level of control to the shot. Your analysis will help quite a bit going forward! Thanks
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Simon, one more thing that is very interesting you may already know. On ATP TV often times they will at end of sets and matches show the spin rates on the players forehands and backhands. Tsitsipas is at the very top off both sides. His forehand spin rates on par with the highest forehand spin rate players such as Nadal, Berenttini, Ruud, Sock, Fognini.
Thanks for the info 👍
All the best
Simon
Simon, I just watched your outstanding analysis on the Tsitsipas fh again. So much great info here. I certainly agree with you Tsitsipas has a lot of Del Po type technique in his forehand. I love how you pointed on Tsitsipas goes from a neutral wrist in his fh prep, until the last second supination, when the racquet lag happens just before contact. A very simple clean technique. Seems like he kind of just bypasses the pat the dog(pronated arm position) by using this neutral wrist supination thing(like Delpo as you astutely pointed out.)
What do you think of the Tsitsipas forehand?
It's very good, but i always get the feeling that he doesn't have enough body rotation. He seems to finish very square on to the court
Technically it is one of the best in the tour, he sometimes loses timing, he can grow even more consistency with repetitions (he's still too young). Tactically he uses the inside-out, inside-in forehands so well, he combines them with great quality net play!
In this video, he doesn't close his racket face like many pros do. I have noticed that since few years. But I'm seeing recently that he is closing his racket at "slot position" from where racket lag happens. To cut down on mis hits that he can do sometimes?
Can you do the analysis of Novak Djokovic forehand also.It is not much talked about but is very consistent.
Very well analysed! From suppinating the arm is not much telled while explaining forehands. It should be integrated more as it is a very important factor to generate speed in forehands. Thank you Simon - good work!
Thanks for watching 👍
Can you analyze Nadal's serve? I think he has switched to an eastern backhand grip for many years now. Beretini also seems to have a non-continental grip when serving too. Any serve analysis of the two would be just great!
Could we do a video on difficult volleys such as low volleys, stretch volleys etc.
Yes that is the reason why I fear coming into the net
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So grateful! Excellent analysis! This ties in so well with you last instruction on not giving ground, or shortening our swings according to the time we have. I had a thought.. (unrelated to this excellent lesson). would you tell us more about techniques you use to focus or shut out distractions on noisy public courts(we have basketball half courts with boom boxes playing rap all around one of our public courts and it is a challenge to focus. But I also get distracted in tournaments when on a show court) and how to stop over thinking whist playing a match, but rather save that for after? These seem to be big issues for me at least.
i have to say i didnt see the the agassi comparison coming but very well analyzed in that regard
Great analysis, kind of a straight arm Agassi as you say. I kind of like how he just bypasses the pat the dog and just supinates into the kind of Del Po staying on racquet edge. Fed kind of dies this motion on forehand return of serves. Saves time it seems, but Fed can have plenty of time anything he does ha.
Thank you for watching 👍
Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
All the best
Simon
Great Analysis!!! TOP!!!
It's time for the Return of Classic Flat Forehand and the Classic One Handed Backhand!!!
Great!!!
Congrats from Brasil!!!
Actually it is not a classic flat forehand. Stefanos has shown that he can switch gears between high bouncing top spin forehands and great flatter approach shots. He has such a variety that allows him to anticipate deep runs in tournaments of any surface. So, classic, yes, I agree, in terms of the kind of grip used, but very modern in variety and all around style of play.
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Thank you for watching 👍
Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
All the best
Simon
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I don't know if there is any value in it. But maybe something on Timing if you haven't already done it? Like timing when to start your backswing; when to start stepping in.
Suggestion: A forehand analysis of Andrey Rublev.
Can u do drop volley lesson and drill
Do you offer a service for personalized video analysis? I would like to check my forehand with you.
Bravo magnifique j’adore 😊
Thanks for the helpful tips :)
He finally fixed it years later. Now he goes into extension before accelerating the racquet and it’s more consistent now. He had too much variance in the stroke during take back creating the U you see before his hips fire. His new forehand is so much better looks like rest of the tour guys.
Excellent!
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Im trying the same drop to be able to improve the slap of the racket previus the shot.
How are you finding it?
Some other videos says that Tsitsipas uses a semi western grip
It depends how you define the grip, heel pad location vs index base vs position of the V. I define it predominantly by the location of the heel pad, since that’s the largest supporter for the grip
Is the supination part of the preparation or does it happen more or less automatically when he start to swing foreward?
Hey Simon. Gr8 vid💥 . Can u make an analysis of the RUBLEV forehand? It's one of the best r8 now I'd say.
Awesome
Thank you for watching 👍
Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
All the best
Simon
Hello, I think it is a very good lesson, thank you coach. I like tennis, I want to play good tennis better.
Tsitsipas seems little old school with eastern forehand and single hand backhand and still produces brilliant tennis against next gen!
Love the video can you do one on nadals forehand if you can?
Question: when do you do an open stance at any stroke?
I usually do an open stance when I use a modern forehand, and when I want to hit the ball up front. Almost all of my shots are performed open or semi closed stances
Hey Simon great video. Good information.
Thanks for watching 👍
All the best
Simon
Can you do de minaur forehand analysis
What interests you with his forehand?
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Im curios on how he hits the ball rather flat while still maintaining consistency and now over hitting all the time
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I also like how he take time away from his opponent by taking the ball early
Or maybe how to redirects pace
What is the difference with Roger???
Roger tends to close the strings in the back position and he has his racket upwards at the start
Tsitsipas hits through the ball, flatter, yet his forehand has 3050 rpm (average, ATP source), just outside the top 10 of the topspin rate chart. Am I missing something?
That’s his average rate, meaning he can hit with much more or much less topspin. Do they have a range of RPM for him? I’m sure it’s a massive difference
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial That makes sense, thanks. It actually looks like Tsitsi varies the amount of rotation on both sides. “They” surely have the range of RPM, but it's not available to the public.
He does use a semi western grip.
Not a pure semi western. Location of heel pad and base of index finger both need to be examined
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial it's in between eastern and semi western i think, definitely not a pure eastern either
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Really disappointed in his 2-0 loss to Djokovic at the FO
Stefanos Tsitsipas forehand is similar to Steffi Graff. Copy paste.
Lmao not even close man! Stefano's forehand is a modern forehand, Graff is not modern at all totally different.
Horrible tecnic!!