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Lewis Smith the Kahzar Khanate was a steppe tribe in the modern Ukraine which historians speculate may have been partially converted to Judaism. Milkers are female breasts. Therefore Khazar Milkers are Jewish Breasts. Kinda Gross.
I thought in her modesty video she was going to say something like “don’t be respected for your body, be respected for who you are as a person”, but no. She wants you to be respected for your “beauty” and “family”, not for who you are. It’s like she just said “instead of being objectified, be objectified”.
I completely agree. To value yourself mostly as a wife or mother rather than a person sounds like a kind of objectification to me. Small kids see their parents mostly as an extention of themselves and not as individuals with their own lives, but then we grow up and we start seing them as independant, real people just like ourselves. I can't imagine being grown up and thinking of yourself as an extention of other people first and foremost. I think conservative women would get a lot from reading The Feminine Mystique, it's old but it can still be liberating for someone who is stuck in that mindset.
Dont be a fleshlight, be a beautiful vase with flowers in it. B-but how about I be neither. Hear me out.. I could be a human being with dreams, a career, a family and a *gasp* personality.
She talks about men like we are T-Rexes loose in the park. "If you aren't dressed modestly and a man spots you, stand still and try to lose its attention, otherwise it might disrespect you"
I've never understood how so many vocally-pro-men people make this argument. Like, you are not a bull, you are not a disembodied penis, you are a thinking human person with presumably some amount of self-control, quit dehumanizing yourself.
@@CatHasOpinions734 This argument exists to minimize mens' accountability for sexist behavior. Men who make the case that we're all secretly like the drooling Tex Avery wolf at the sight of any attractive woman want to legitimize their own or other mens' willful lack of self-control.
@Andrew Barnett true as that may be the argument here though is about men, who are well past puberty and should be able to control themselves a bit better, no?
@@carmensavu5122 Even straight men such as myself for the most part don't care at all if a woman isn't fully covered up. And if a woman is dressed in super revealing clthing we just get uncomfortable, we don't lick our lips and go "hummina hummina hummina"
@@boastfultoast7066 In my circles, people might notice for a second, then internally shrug and turn back to thinking about whatever they had been thinking about.
How to become a “Classic Woman” -Body hair, so much body hair -Huge Muscles From Farming All Day, typically larger then all the men in your general vicinity -Little to no body covering, we’re going waaaay back babey -No Make Up, doesn’t exist -Dirt -Live in cave
I'm so tired of seeing her ads popping up. Being a conservative woman is what she centers her entire personality around and she still ends up getting sexualized by the same people who hang on her brother's every word.
EXACTLY! I'm disgusted by how sexualized her and other women are. They can dress however they want, but unless they just straight up put on a bed sheet over their entire body, lonely straight men will *always* stare at her shape. Shapes are already enough to turn someone on, they don't have respect for you.
@@maschaorsomething "Shapes are already enough to turn someone on, they don't have respect for you." That really sounds like a non-sequitur. I mean, I'm probably interpreting a bit too much into this sentence, but I'd be much more comfortable if there was a period separating these two statements, as one does not imply the other. Getting turned on by someone has absolutely *nothing* to do with whether you respect that person or not. By that logic, intimate relationships could not exist, as two people finding each other attractive cannot respect each other...
@@MissBloopTartVT while I fully agree that dressing "modestly" will ultimately not prevent sexualization... I do think it's a bit ridiculous to try to separate dress from sexuality as much as I feel you try to. Yes, men will sexualize women regardless of how they dress - that doesn't change that certain types of dress tend to correlate with more sexualization. And no, I'm not trying to justify anything on the behalf of an assaulter... Violence is violence and, obviously, the perpetrator is the one who chose to make the violent act and should be treated as such under the court of law and public opinion. I hate that we have such a toxic political environment where people could (understandably) think my comment is an attempted victim-blame, but a bunch of idiots have co-opted and hijacked the basic point that different forms of dress can concievably be more sexualized than others.
Everyday I feel worse and worse for Mara Wilson. Can you imagine trying to watch some silly video but first you have to see a commercial with your dead-eyed cousin staring into the camera to try to sell you on their brand of insanity
@@MakoClover she vaguely alludes to them on twitter every now and then as the relatives she never has to see at Thanksgiving, because she cut them out of her life lol
I love how she says “Do you want to be appreciated for your body or for your family?” Like being appreciated for your mind or personality or accomplishments isn’t even an option.
well in that family it wouldn’t be Fundamentalist jews don't value women for their mind personality or acomplishments anymore than a fundamentalist muslim.
The idea of valuing being appreciated because I'm related to someone who actually did something, instead of for an actual reason, is.... Uh... Well it's something, anyways.
the funny thing is (even though i’m a guy) i’d rather be recognized for my body rather than my family. i work hard and make choices to make my body look how i want, and my family was just a coincidence
Don't forget; There are multiple types of respect. One type is "treating someone like a human being, not harming them" and the other is "admiring and extolling their virtues". She sure does switch between those on her channel
When I'm 50, I completely want to be judged for my body. I want to be healthy, and strong; beautiful and natural. I want people to look at me and be unafraid to age.
aw love this. I really wish our society wasn’t so creepily obsessed with youth. People act as though their lives are over once they’re “old.” Like, they’re beauty and sexuality has vanished. It’s sad, I wish people didn’t feel that way. I also wanna feel beautiful, sexy, and confident when I’m older.
@@katec708 I'm one of those who is terrified to age, cause everyone else in my family gets together and just bitches about aging and keeps giving me all that "THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN LOOK FORWARD TO" shit
When I’m 50, I want all to look upon me and despair. They’ll wonder how can one man look like so many 100 year old boys in just one body. I want them scared that the same thing could happen to them. Just sounds like it’d be a laugh.
Abby: Because at 50 years old, do you want to be trying to be praised for your body... Me: oh she's gonna say "or for your mind" Abby: ...or praised for your family? Me: ...what
Amber Collier I thought the SAME EXACT THING. I’m a single and childless 40 year old I want to be praised for my smooth skin and all of the scientific articles I’ve published.
im a trans man and "pack" has a different immediate connotation to me so when abby said "how to pack as a classical woman" i could feel my brain start to melt before i remembered that she meant carrying a gun
Oh damn, thanks for your comment, I thought she was just parroting a cliché that women don't know how to pack lightly their luggage for a trip and she was going to show us how. English is my second language, I didn't know "pack" was used for gun carrying, although I did know about the meaning in the trans community... my political leaning might be showing there hahaha
it’s so hypocritical of them to both say “rape culture isn’t real, men aren’t the problem” and also “if you don’t cover up ur kinda asking for it, men cant control themselves”😐
the irony is that respecting a woman "for her family" instead of her body is still sexualized respect. it's conferring value on a woman for having the right kind of sex and reproducing instead of for anything about her personality or achievements. many conservatives seem to completely miss the fact that hinging respect on having very little sex is just as superficial as for having lots of sex. the sex is still the key point in both cases.
Or like, when they say don't debase yourself having casual sex, wait until marriage. He should work for it, make him make a commitment before you give him sexual favors, don't just give it away, he'll take it and dump you. Oh suuure, that's not debasing myself at all! They are basically teaching a woman womn to dangle sex like a carrot in front of her partner and tease him with it, until he commits resources to her. How the ever loving fuck is that not prostitution? They are telling us to be prostitutes with only one john for life. Frankly, I'd rather be a regular prostitute than marry a man who is willing to marry me because he desperately needs coochie. It's more honest, less boring because variety, and more free, at the end of the day. And I don't have to do housework as included in the package deal, which I would have to do for a husband.
The respect isn't hinged on having very little sex. That is a massive misrepresentation of the religious or conservative position. It's about the type of woman you are. It just so happens that that is correlated with how loose you are with your body and morals. So no. I'm sorry, but you've missed the mark here. The sex is not the key point.
I like how Abby’s arguments for modesty also heavily rely on every woman looking exactly like her. Certain body types will look “immodest” regardless of how much they do or don’t cover up. Some people’s bodies are actually considered “immodest” solely for the facts that their genetics have made them that way. Just think about how men and the media treat young teens who have developed “too quickly”
The odd thing is, if you come from an Asian society, literally everything Abby wears could be considered immodest. She still wears dresses that shows her legs, and knees, her arms, sometimes a lot of her chest, her hair... Modesty is so subjective.
I mean conservatism is an idealogy. Some people dont believe the idealogy and are part of the conservative politics more than the traditional shit. I mean every idealogy is like this, marxism, communism, anarchism they say that everyone would have their rights blah blah shit but at the end of the day they want you to be like them.
Yea it's kind of like a pyramid scheme company that sends you to those presentations and everyone who works there acts so happy and like they're in on this secret, special thing. And the speaker asks the audience questions like, "don't you want to be rich? Don't you want a hot wife or husband? Don't you want to be happy for once in your miserable life?" And of course everyone thinks, "yes" to some capacity... And then they hit you with the big lie now that you're all buttered up because you're thinking about how this person is about to to explain a sure fire way to acquire those things in your life. But, all they really do is trick you into buying into the starter package for the pyramid scheme and a week or 2 later you realize this is bullshit, I'm never going to get those things by doing this. And you blame yourself and blame the economy and the system and more. But, really you're just holding on to this lie of a perfect life that was sold to you, in a way, by yourself. All that to say, Abby Shapiro is like that. You can be whoever you want to be as long as it's like what I am describing. Just because someone says the words, "freedom, respect," does not inherently mean that everything else they say is reflective of those words.
I think there’s difference between seeking “like-mindedness” and absolute conformity. From what I gather, “leftists” seem to seek acceptance for a variety of human expression and ask for tolerance of diversity, while the “right” tends to idealize only specific, yet nebulous, forms of expression. The next argument is “well the left doesn’t tolerate the ideas of the right,” and I would say that tolerance of intolerance is just intolerance.
@@pleasedonotwatchmychannel no, if you say you tolerate everything but "intolerance" then you are not tolerant. Like what stuff from the right do you find intolerant? Lower taxes, more economic freedom, less regulations? By dismissing an argument because it is "intolerant" it shows how intolerant you are. The only point against the argument would be intolerance which means jackshit. Because intolerance is subjective.
Conservtives: Ugh I'm so sick of leftists basing their entire personalities around politics. Like we get it, you're gay. You dont need to tell everyone constantly. Also conservatives: Omg I'm SO conservative!! Did you know I'm conservative?? Gosh it's so hard coming out as conservative these days. Its hard for me because, in case u didn't mention, I'm a conservative. :/ :/ :/
@@risky_busine55 conservatives: "damn liberal commulists making everything about identity politics" also conservatives: "i'm PROUD to be WHITE, STRAIGHT, and CHRISTIAN" conservatives: "damn liberal commulists and their big government" also conservatives: "blue lives matter! also, government should make abortion illegal" conservatives: "damn liberal commulists, they're all collectivists that want to make us all the same!" also conservatives: "we need to stop brown people immigrating, this is a white country!"
"Do you want to be praised for your body, or praised for your family?" Oh my god I love it. I love it so much. "Do you want to be essentialized and objectified in this way, or essentialized and objectified in this other way?" I guess the only choice women have in life is how they want to be dehumanized by society and Abby Shapiro is on board with that.
False dichotomies are the game everybody can play. Like for example, do you want this authoritarian politician with a smattering of left-leaning values, or this authoritarian politician with a heaping helping of right-leaning values? Please ignore those other candidates on the libertarian end of the spectrum, they're not real choices.
Same. I was so mad when I got ads for her videos. Saw her singing a Disney medley which was pretty cute, so I honestly thought she had a vocal performance channel and not one where she told women to be okay with being objectified... that was a let down
Should I be insulted at the implication that I’m biologically unable to treat women with respect? Edit; holy shit I finished typing this like two seconds before he said it. This is historic!
@@soccerruben1 Benny speaks as quickly as he can, rather than using his natural cadence (clearly, he thinks it is intimidating). That is why he misspeaks so frequently.
Wait, she's only 20? So she's telling ladies what's best for them in their life experiences...despite not having experienced those things for herself. Aight.
"Men are visual creatures, not emotional ones." As a man far more interested in romance than sex, how dare you "Do you want to be known for your body, or your family?" Are we in the puritan days, lady, wtf?
bean cat88 i don’t even think that was ever considered feminist, the core of feminism is striving towards equality not dragging others down - like how women’s suffrage was about gaining the right to vote, not taking it away from others (also i honestly think a lot of the “evidence” of those arguments goes back to the fox news style of arguing against points no one really makes)
When she talked about it being hard to find a community of conservative women, I felt a surge of fear. I have Christian relatives that would be sold by that because their views are old fashioned. They would eat this shit up.
Y'know what's funny? I live in Turkey and the kinda life these conservative Americans want is exactly how 80% of Turkish live here. They'd seriously be hella happy here. I'd be happy to trade places lol
Yes, but aren't most Turkish people Muslim? I don't think that most conservative Americans like the Shapiros would want to mix with people with incredibly similar, yet different, religions.
@@BrieCheese I live in Brooklyn and, well things are different now, but before quarantine I saw Muslim women with hijabs and Orthodox women with denim skirts and cheap wigs every day, they live side by side pretty comfortably here at least.
As a cis hetero male, I weirdly find it a bit insulting that someone would think "modestly dressed" women are somehow less targeted. Like, I think as myself as a fairly switched on feminist guy, but in the moments in my life where I slip and find myself ogling women in the street it's generally nothing to do with how they're dressed, but more their shape or their face or their general demeanour. I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm 30 and have a more chilled approach to the opposite sex, but the very idea that "modesty" somehow tricks the male psyche is kind of insulting.
And honestly, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with sexualization, like as in finding people sexually attractive. It’s when that turns into objectification & they’re no longer treated like autonomous human beings that there becomes a problem 👍🏼
And when you add fetishes in to the mix, something as simple as walking barefoot, a fairly innocuous thing, can end up you having to play a role in a Tarantino film, and not one of the good ones. There’s nothing wrong with having that fetish (even if I don’t get it), but it’s the removal of body parts from the person they’re attached to (figuratively, but literally would also be a problem) that goes over the line of acceptability. Being physically attracted to a person is not even really a choice, so it’s always okay, but everything after that is a choice, and no amount of biology excuses objectification or assault etc. They made the choice to value their own feelings more than the target of their abuse.
she means back in the good old days of hanbarbara when women used floating rings to tie their hair up and omitted shoes because it made the vacuumasaurus nervous
When she says that people do what they want without caring about the consequences. Like what are the consequences of dressing immodestly lol. Some person might look at you and think you are hot? The only consequences it seems like she could be talking about are victim blamey ones lol.
Every time victim blamers pin it on clothes, I'm reminded of the exhibition "What Were You Wearing?", where they showed the clothes rape victims were wearing when they were assaulted. Most of the outfits are not even close to what could be considered sexy attire... and among the motley clothes, there is a child’s school uniform. Blaming the victim for choosing "the wrong cloths" is fucking disgusting. I don't care if they were wearing nothing but a thong or if they were wearing overalls, it doesn't make them responsible for a rapist's choice.
Abby Shapiro: Do you want to be praised for your body? My brain completing the sentence: Or praised for your mind? Abby Shapiro: Or praised for your family? Me: Wait, what?
You got it bang on when you said isn't being respected for dressing modestly just being praised for how you dress with extra steps. You're right. There's no way to imply respect is only given to women by covering up without giving all the credit to the clothes and none to her personality, which goes against what Abby is trying to say. If in her world men can't respect women without them wearing the proper clothing, that's terrifying, misogynistic, and needs to change, not something she should adhere to out of fear.
Nothing should change, except to make things more like they used to be when things were good. Which is a real time that really happened. -The Shapiros, probably
The horror of your father-in-law being Ben Shapiro. I can imagine sitting down for a formal dinner with my in-laws, Ben sitting at the head of the table on his booster seat, just waiting for him to begin the high pitch whine of a tirade about indoctrinated youth or Palestine. It's only a matter of time before he does and you just have to carry on the dinner until he does. The thought of this sent chills down my spine.
if you watch any sort of political videos, it's less about what type of political videos you watch and more the fact you watch them at all. the left generally doesn't pump thousands of dollars into ad campaigns because well. they just don't seem to be into that lol. the right on the other hand is very clearly interested in the traction one can gain from doing so. and i mean, it is clearly effective.
I was a kid in the 90s. Look at 90s kid's fashion. Baggy androgynous tacky clothes. Hell we were poor so I mostly wore my brother's hand-me-downs. Didn't stop my child molestor from sexualizing me. Meanwhile as an adult I've had male friends not even care when they've been over on super hot days and I wanted to take my top off. (I'm trans so like.... My boobs are.... It's different idk my friends get it) So yea. You really can't opt out of being sexualized Abby. Creeps are gonna do it no matter what. And decent guys are gonna be decent.
i cant decide if abby is the dollar store girl defined, or if girl defined is the dollar store abby. either way, both channels do not cost over 99 cents im sure of it.
Dude the clip you put in of her saying "how to pack like a woman" just made me think of packers and, as someone with multiple trans men friends, I was like "whoa don't call them that - they're men" before I remembered she would never give advice about THAT sort of packing omg my smol brain hours
I was able to get them removed from my feed. I tried the clicking the do not show me this video, blocked the channel, and then finally sent youtube an email saying I did not want to see the videos anymore. A few days after sending the email, I stopped getting the ads. Im not sure what step actually caused the ads to stop showing up though.
And cis reactionaries say trans people are "obsessed" with gender, ha. Does her identity consist of anything besides being a Conservative and a Woman? Credit where it's due, I will say her hair and makeup game are both on-point, though. But, does distracting men with your eyebrows count?
@BillyFreeTX You have no idea of the biological reality. Not only do people with different chromosomes than XX and XY exist, it is also shown that trans people have more in common with the gender they identify with, not with the one assigned to them at birth. It also improves their mental condition to live as the gender they want. Do some research.
You have women muscles and women muscles are feminine. Man muscles are masculine. If you are a woman anything you do is feminine. That’s how we solve it. I solved it guys. Fuck wait that’s gendered. Back to the drawings boards people.
If anything, being buff and cis generally only highlights your associated gendered features as they define secondary sex characteristics i.e. hips or breasts
As a woman (most of the time) I find the way Abby speaks so damn condescending. Even if I did want to hear what she had to say I don't think I could sit through even one minute of one of her videos. You're not above the rest of us luv
The irony is that I’ve heard about her many times in conservative circles over the years, and every single time it was about her breasts. This counts for when she was signing opera too. Lefties just complain about having to see her recommended.
“There’s a non-zero percent chance you got an add on behalf of the a Trump campaign, or PragerU, or the EpochTimes” *immediately plays an ad from the Epoch Times*
Jack Saint: "you will get a right wing ad" Two seconds later, my ad: "we deliver handpicked flowers right to your door" I know your game, flower people! Back off with your conservative propaganda!
Between her ads and the avalanche of videos about her that think clever criticism means making sexist comments on appearance or family resemblance, I haven’t been this exasperated with my TH-cam feed As A Woman since 2016, thank you so much for this valid take^TM
Danger: "We desire to treat some people like shit." People: "That would suck." Danger: "You there. Bunch of people within arbitrary parameters. You're who we're going to treat like shit." People: "Oh no. Sucks to be us." Danger: "Then don't find yourself within those arbitrary parameters." People: "Okay. We are now all, universally, not within those arbitrary parameters." Danger: "The desire to treat some people like shit was not caused by the parameters, and therefore still remains when those parameters are eliminated." People: "Oh no. Sucks to be you." Danger: "We would rather it sucked to be you again. Here are a new set of arbitrary parameters. You're who we're going to treat like shit now." People: "Not this again." Danger: "Then don't find yourself within those arbitrary parameters this time around either." People: "But then the same thing would just happen; you'd merely find other stuff to draw your category around." Danger: "So long as we can keep treating someone like shit, hooray for us." ... Conservative influencers: "BUT WHAT IF WE ACQUIESCE TO THEIR PARAMETERS HERPY DERP THAT'D SOLVE LITERAL EVERYTHING how has nobody thought of this before I'm so smart"
Before I watch the video, here’s my theory: Abby, like Ben, is a savvy marketer, and she not only knows fully well that online weirdos are attracted to her, but is capitalizing on the coomer market to either spread her videos or push said coomers to fall down the “modest” rabbit hole themselves. This doesn’t seem revelatory or groundbreaking in the slightest, but I still feel mildly smart for figuring it out, and at least I can act like I was the first to come up with it if I’m early enough to this comment section lmao
Im gonna bandwagon and say you're absolutely right. Her "fans" are everywhere, especially not youtube. And she must know what people say and think about her. I mean just see the photos she releases on her socials. Like really -.-. coomers gonna coom.
I just put them on mute and go do something else for a few minutes. It supports the creaters I like in a small way and these people have to pay for an ad that I didn't watch. The less money they have the less they can spend it on more ads or on funding bs propaganda channels.
My first thought on her statement about "dressing modestly" was that even assuming that what shes saying is actually true (which I doubt, but that aside for now) it is still victim blaming. It's not your fault if people are being sexist pricks toward you, it's the people being sexist pricks.
I love how they try to use the “family values” and “think of the children!!” and “traditional lifestyle” arguments when me and my boyfriend (both cis but not straight, btw) plan to foster and adopt kids while we run a hobby farm and keep bees and preserve our own food and he is a stay at home parent and writer, and I’m a lawyer/breadwinner. That is by all definitions a traditional household. There is a parent at home to be there for the children. There is a parent going out in the world to make money. We are learning traditional things like canning, agriculture, sewing, and woodworking. But those are fucking dog whistles, as we know. And we’re gonna go be cottagecore/dark academia bis out in the woods and say fuck ‘em
@@kage6613 I installed youtube vanced on android otherwise i could not watch youtube. They have ramped up the ad placement lately, it can be as bad as tv tbh
There have been times and places where Abby’s uncovered hair and use of makeup would be considered unacceptably immodest. What if we worked for a society where people could wear burqas side-by-side with people who are completely naked and nobody gave anybody any shit about how they were (un)dressed?
I recently saw a video of hers that was called "men: how to attract a conservative and classic woman" What was the first of piece of advice for finding a conservative woman? Get ready for it, it's a banger "Don't date liberal women" ABBY SHAPIRO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WHAT A GENIUS.
@@kylewilliams8114 My sister-in-law calls my mother, sister, and me independent like it's an insult. Ok, whatever, but if something happened to my marriage I'd be fine financially. My mom had been single and supporting herself and all us kids as needed for probably 15 years. My sister has supported herself and son to the best of her ability before. She wouldn't be able to do the same, even if she wanted to. She can be proud of her conservativism if she wants, but I'm proud as shit that I don't have to be in a marriage that depends solely on the husband (and my parents and mother-in-law and generous people at church because I have more kids than we can afford).
It’s just this very performative, over-expressive way she talks. I’m sure her rich as shit family focus tested her videos and it came back saying she was dead-eyed and creepy, so she’s probably just trying to take that note.
Conservatives: "Women need to dress modestly because men are visual creatures who can't control their urges." Me, a straight woman: *admiring beautiful shirtless guys in the park* ".... Huh? Were you saying something?"
I always laugh over the "men can't control their urges" argument. Yeah, and all those screaming teenage girls really just wanted to take Harry Styles home for a cuddle and a cup of tea. 🤦♀️
@@athenajaxon2397 Actually, the exact opposite is true. There's a reason why when a man touches a woman inappropriately, it's considered as sexual harassment, whereas if a woman touches a man inappropriately, it's considered "being spicey". There's a reason why the ®@pe of women is taken very seriously, while the ®@pe of men is often joked about in the media. In fact, there are a number movies where a man gets ®@ped by a woman, and the scene is meant to be "hilarious".
@@GTAVictor9128 that's not what I said at all, men are encouraged to be sexual, have sex and be a ladies man. When a guy has a one night stand he's congratulated, when a woman does it she's called a slut. Chris Evans nudes were leaked and no one shamed him for it but a females nudes are leaked and she's slut shamed. An elementary school teacher actually lost her job because her nudes were leaked without her permission. Men are constantly praised for being sexual creatures while women aren't
Ben has to at least pay lip service to the “I’m the new breed of rebel conservative badass” thing, which while absolutely hilarious is one of the only tactics they’ve been successful with to siren-call some younger people over to their side. And that act means he at least has to pretend to not be 100% stodgy and repressed and restrictive and lame.
Okay I hate to be defending Abby Shapiro but TO BE FAIR that’s a swimsuit she’s wearing. Presumably she’s not wearing it out on the town (but then nothing would surprise me at this point).
Katie M ok that makes a lot more sense, but at the same time, there has to be a skirt that matches the swimsuit more. Or even ditch the covering and wear a wet suit? No?
I see those concubine game ads constantly. Now I know that the alternative is apparently Abby Shapiro or the Trump campaign bring on the women that were good in a past life but now want to be evil !
I think my favorite part of her channel getting promoted is the moment I realized "Classically" was a direct rebranding of "Traditional/Trad" and the implications that had.
@@Romanticoutlaw Ehhh, I'm not here to shame anybody for how they look. There's plenty of shameful bullshit coming out of her mouth that's much more valid to criticize.
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i dont know what "khazar milkers" are and at this point im afraid to ask
Lewis Smith then ask
@@twinkiesmaster69 what are khazar milkers?
Lewis Smith the Kahzar Khanate was a steppe tribe in the modern Ukraine which historians speculate may have been partially converted to Judaism. Milkers are female breasts. Therefore Khazar Milkers are Jewish Breasts. Kinda Gross.
sean Kelliher thanx for doing my job
I thought in her modesty video she was going to say something like “don’t be respected for your body, be respected for who you are as a person”, but no. She wants you to be respected for your “beauty” and “family”, not for who you are.
It’s like she just said “instead of being objectified, be objectified”.
Be objectified in the RIGHT way! Bascially.
How on earth does she justify that in her mind?
Be the best object you can be!
I completely agree. To value yourself mostly as a wife or mother rather than a person sounds like a kind of objectification to me. Small kids see their parents mostly as an extention of themselves and not as individuals with their own lives, but then we grow up and we start seing them as independant, real people just like ourselves. I can't imagine being grown up and thinking of yourself as an extention of other people first and foremost. I think conservative women would get a lot from reading The Feminine Mystique, it's old but it can still be liberating for someone who is stuck in that mindset.
Dont be a fleshlight, be a beautiful vase with flowers in it.
B-but how about I be neither. Hear me out.. I could be a human being with dreams, a career, a family and a *gasp* personality.
She talks about men like we are T-Rexes loose in the park.
"If you aren't dressed modestly and a man spots you, stand still and try to lose its attention, otherwise it might disrespect you"
I've never understood how so many vocally-pro-men people make this argument. Like, you are not a bull, you are not a disembodied penis, you are a thinking human person with presumably some amount of self-control, quit dehumanizing yourself.
Conservative rhetoric dehumanized everyone. Straight cis white guys are just the top dehumans.
@@CatHasOpinions734 This argument exists to minimize mens' accountability for sexist behavior. Men who make the case that we're all secretly like the drooling Tex Avery wolf at the sight of any attractive woman want to legitimize their own or other mens' willful lack of self-control.
*agrees with T-Rex noises*
@Andrew Barnett true as that may be the argument here though is about men, who are well past puberty and should be able to control themselves a bit better, no?
As a man, I'm biologically *required* to go "Owooga Owooga" every time I see a non-modest women.
I think finding out there are asexual men out there would make their little heads explode.
Whenever I see a non-modest lady, my eyes bug out cartoonishly until I smash my head down with an oversized mallet. Can't fight nature, man.
@@carmensavu5122 Even straight men such as myself for the most part don't care at all if a woman isn't fully covered up. And if a woman is dressed in super revealing clthing we just get uncomfortable, we don't lick our lips and go "hummina hummina hummina"
@@boastfultoast7066 In my circles, people might notice for a second, then internally shrug and turn back to thinking about whatever they had been thinking about.
Im more of a "humanahumana" type man myself.
I saw a thigh the other day and I was stuck stamering for an hour
How to become a “Classic Woman”
-Body hair, so much body hair
-Huge Muscles From Farming All Day, typically larger then all the men in your general vicinity
-Little to no body covering, we’re going waaaay back babey
-No Make Up, doesn’t exist
-Dirt
-Live in cave
honestly the ideal woman. wish I was a cavewoman, sigh.
This is so hot
I am looking respectfully 👀
Sign me up
Women could always shave you know...
I'm so tired of seeing her ads popping up. Being a conservative woman is what she centers her entire personality around and she still ends up getting sexualized by the same people who hang on her brother's every word.
EXACTLY! I'm disgusted by how sexualized her and other women are.
They can dress however they want, but unless they just straight up put on a bed sheet over their entire body, lonely straight men will *always* stare at her shape. Shapes are already enough to turn someone on, they don't have respect for you.
@@maschaorsomething exactly she has no self-awareness
@@maschaorsomething "Shapes are already enough to turn someone on, they don't have respect for you."
That really sounds like a non-sequitur. I mean, I'm probably interpreting a bit too much into this sentence, but I'd be much more comfortable if there was a period separating these two statements, as one does not imply the other.
Getting turned on by someone has absolutely *nothing* to do with whether you respect that person or not. By that logic, intimate relationships could not exist, as two people finding each other attractive cannot respect each other...
@@MissBloopTartVT while I fully agree that dressing "modestly" will ultimately not prevent sexualization... I do think it's a bit ridiculous to try to separate dress from sexuality as much as I feel you try to. Yes, men will sexualize women regardless of how they dress - that doesn't change that certain types of dress tend to correlate with more sexualization. And no, I'm not trying to justify anything on the behalf of an assaulter... Violence is violence and, obviously, the perpetrator is the one who chose to make the violent act and should be treated as such under the court of law and public opinion. I hate that we have such a toxic political environment where people could (understandably) think my comment is an attempted victim-blame, but a bunch of idiots have co-opted and hijacked the basic point that different forms of dress can concievably be more sexualized than others.
F E E T
Everyday I feel worse and worse for Mara Wilson. Can you imagine trying to watch some silly video but first you have to see a commercial with your dead-eyed cousin staring into the camera to try to sell you on their brand of insanity
Mara Wilson is related to the Shapiros???
@@MakoClover she vaguely alludes to them on twitter every now and then as the relatives she never has to see at Thanksgiving, because she cut them out of her life lol
Poor Mara!
I cannot believe Mara Wilson is related to the Shapiros!! She's so awesome, and they're so NOT!
@@stephaniel2850 Sometimes a branch of your family... is bananapants. It happens.
The "modesty" lot can never explain why cleavage and thigh is wrong, but hijab or banning trousers is "too far".
Honestly tho
Great point. I'd love to hear that
I was just thinking this!!!
I was thinking , how dare Abby show off her neck. My Victorian ideas are insulted by her immodestly
@@dhaisley In bright daylight, the absolute Jezebel!
I love how she says “Do you want to be appreciated for your body or for your family?”
Like being appreciated for your mind or personality or accomplishments isn’t even an option.
well in that family it wouldn’t be
Fundamentalist jews don't value women for their mind personality or acomplishments anymore than a fundamentalist muslim.
The idea of valuing being appreciated because I'm related to someone who actually did something, instead of for an actual reason, is.... Uh... Well it's something, anyways.
the funny thing is (even though i’m a guy) i’d rather be recognized for my body rather than my family. i work hard and make choices to make my body look how i want, and my family was just a coincidence
Don't forget; There are multiple types of respect. One type is "treating someone like a human being, not harming them" and the other is "admiring and extolling their virtues". She sure does switch between those on her channel
its also of the assumption that people want kids in the first place
When I'm 50, I completely want to be judged for my body. I want to be healthy, and strong; beautiful and natural. I want people to look at me and be unafraid to age.
aw love this. I really wish our society wasn’t so creepily obsessed with youth. People act as though their lives are over once they’re “old.” Like, they’re beauty and sexuality has vanished. It’s sad, I wish people didn’t feel that way. I also wanna feel beautiful, sexy, and confident when I’m older.
@@katec708 I'm one of those who is terrified to age, cause everyone else in my family gets together and just bitches about aging and keeps giving me all that "THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN LOOK FORWARD TO" shit
When I’m 50, I want all to look upon me and despair. They’ll wonder how can one man look like so many 100 year old boys in just one body. I want them scared that the same thing could happen to them. Just sounds like it’d be a laugh.
I, too, want a healthy and strong body at 50. But I also _want_ them to fear me. Look upon me, and know fear.
Well I’d prefer to judge people entirely on their choices of actions. I hope you’re ok with that because I will judge you!!!
;)
Abby: Because at 50 years old, do you want to be trying to be praised for your body...
Me: oh she's gonna say "or for your mind"
Abby: ...or praised for your family?
Me: ...what
Amber Collier I thought the SAME EXACT THING. I’m a single and childless 40 year old I want to be praised for my smooth skin and all of the scientific articles I’ve published.
But of course, to tradcons a woman is at least 50% baby incubator.
@@randomjunkohyeah1 That's a pretty sexist thing to say about conservative women
hardpack187
“to tradcons”
Nice try, guy with the “everything is racist” playlist.
@@randomjunkohyeah1 Women can't be tradcons?
im a trans man and "pack" has a different immediate connotation to me so when abby said "how to pack as a classical woman" i could feel my brain start to melt before i remembered that she meant carrying a gun
oh godddd I didn't realize she meant a gun until this comment! I thought she was packing a suitcase...
Oh damn, thanks for your comment, I thought she was just parroting a cliché that women don't know how to pack lightly their luggage for a trip and she was going to show us how. English is my second language, I didn't know "pack" was used for gun carrying, although I did know about the meaning in the trans community... my political leaning might be showing there hahaha
SCREAMING because I'm also ftm and I was like "WHAT???"
Carrying a GUN? I had no idea she meant that at all 😅
@@FancyFufflyBunny I'm a native English speaker (your English is gorgeous, by the way) and I assumed the same thing.
it’s so hypocritical of them to both say “rape culture isn’t real, men aren’t the problem” and also “if you don’t cover up ur kinda asking for it, men cant control themselves”😐
the irony is that respecting a woman "for her family" instead of her body is still sexualized respect. it's conferring value on a woman for having the right kind of sex and reproducing instead of for anything about her personality or achievements. many conservatives seem to completely miss the fact that hinging respect on having very little sex is just as superficial as for having lots of sex. the sex is still the key point in both cases.
👏👏
Or like, when they say don't debase yourself having casual sex, wait until marriage. He should work for it, make him make a commitment before you give him sexual favors, don't just give it away, he'll take it and dump you.
Oh suuure, that's not debasing myself at all! They are basically teaching a woman womn to dangle sex like a carrot in front of her partner and tease him with it, until he commits resources to her. How the ever loving fuck is that not prostitution? They are telling us to be prostitutes with only one john for life. Frankly, I'd rather be a regular prostitute than marry a man who is willing to marry me because he desperately needs coochie. It's more honest, less boring because variety, and more free, at the end of the day. And I don't have to do housework as included in the package deal, which I would have to do for a husband.
Bingo
conservativism is misogynistic, misandrist, sexist, tranpsphobic, everything.
The respect isn't hinged on having very little sex. That is a massive misrepresentation of the religious or conservative position. It's about the type of woman you are. It just so happens that that is correlated with how loose you are with your body and morals. So no. I'm sorry, but you've missed the mark here. The sex is not the key point.
I like how Abby’s arguments for modesty also heavily rely on every woman looking exactly like her. Certain body types will look “immodest” regardless of how much they do or don’t cover up. Some people’s bodies are actually considered “immodest” solely for the facts that their genetics have made them that way. Just think about how men and the media treat young teens who have developed “too quickly”
And ironically (very unfortunately), the weirdos online talk about the size of her breasts.
You'd think she would have some sympathy.
Hi, how are you doing? as someone who spent too much of high school being told I should cover up more when wearing jeans and a tshirt, in the summer.
THIS!! Fucking this
The odd thing is, if you come from an Asian society, literally everything Abby wears could be considered immodest. She still wears dresses that shows her legs, and knees, her arms, sometimes a lot of her chest, her hair... Modesty is so subjective.
@@zurzakne-etra7069 exactly. Here in India people would assume she's "easy"
Another beautiful irony if conservatism: simultaneously obsessed with the rights of the individual while demanding complete conformity to an ideal.
They want to do what they want but what they want is for everyone to be like them.
I mean conservatism is an idealogy. Some people dont believe the idealogy and are part of the conservative politics more than the traditional shit. I mean every idealogy is like this, marxism, communism, anarchism they say that everyone would have their rights blah blah shit but at the end of the day they want you to be like them.
Yea it's kind of like a pyramid scheme company that sends you to those presentations and everyone who works there acts so happy and like they're in on this secret, special thing. And the speaker asks the audience questions like, "don't you want to be rich? Don't you want a hot wife or husband? Don't you want to be happy for once in your miserable life?" And of course everyone thinks, "yes" to some capacity... And then they hit you with the big lie now that you're all buttered up because you're thinking about how this person is about to to explain a sure fire way to acquire those things in your life. But, all they really do is trick you into buying into the starter package for the pyramid scheme and a week or 2 later you realize this is bullshit, I'm never going to get those things by doing this. And you blame yourself and blame the economy and the system and more. But, really you're just holding on to this lie of a perfect life that was sold to you, in a way, by yourself.
All that to say, Abby Shapiro is like that. You can be whoever you want to be as long as it's like what I am describing. Just because someone says the words, "freedom, respect," does not inherently mean that everything else they say is reflective of those words.
I think there’s difference between seeking “like-mindedness” and absolute conformity. From what I gather, “leftists” seem to seek acceptance for a variety of human expression and ask for tolerance of diversity, while the “right” tends to idealize only specific, yet nebulous, forms of expression.
The next argument is “well the left doesn’t tolerate the ideas of the right,” and I would say that tolerance of intolerance is just intolerance.
@@pleasedonotwatchmychannel no, if you say you tolerate everything but "intolerance" then you are not tolerant. Like what stuff from the right do you find intolerant? Lower taxes, more economic freedom, less regulations? By dismissing an argument because it is "intolerant" it shows how intolerant you are. The only point against the argument would be intolerance which means jackshit. Because intolerance is subjective.
Conservtives: Ugh I'm so sick of leftists basing their entire personalities around politics. Like we get it, you're gay. You dont need to tell everyone constantly.
Also conservatives: Omg I'm SO conservative!! Did you know I'm conservative?? Gosh it's so hard coming out as conservative these days. Its hard for me because, in case u didn't mention, I'm a conservative. :/ :/ :/
If only they had some kind of voice in politics!
Not to mention they're really obsessed with their "white identity" and "straight pride" and shit
For real. Conservatives will talk about their opinions at the drop of the hat, even during conversations that aren't even remotely political.
We get it, Abby, you're gay.
@@risky_busine55 conservatives: "damn liberal commulists making everything about identity politics"
also conservatives: "i'm PROUD to be WHITE, STRAIGHT, and CHRISTIAN"
conservatives: "damn liberal commulists and their big government"
also conservatives: "blue lives matter! also, government should make abortion illegal"
conservatives: "damn liberal commulists, they're all collectivists that want to make us all the same!"
also conservatives: "we need to stop brown people immigrating, this is a white country!"
"Men are visual creatures, not emotional". Had a brief vision of disconnected eyeballs, floating around in the void.
Oh no! Not the *eyballs!* Not again!!
Wait a second. There's definitely a Lovecraftian God for that.
... is she secretly trying to recruit for Cthulhu?
Please don't drag us into the Eyeball Zone
@@RandomBrick13 Stop it or you will summon lord Oculon!!
I’m female and I’m a visual creature
"Do you want to be praised for your body, or praised for your family?"
Oh my god I love it. I love it so much. "Do you want to be essentialized and objectified in this way, or essentialized and objectified in this other way?" I guess the only choice women have in life is how they want to be dehumanized by society and Abby Shapiro is on board with that.
False dichotomies are the game everybody can play. Like for example, do you want this authoritarian politician with a smattering of left-leaning values, or this authoritarian politician with a heaping helping of right-leaning values? Please ignore those other candidates on the libertarian end of the spectrum, they're not real choices.
As an opera singer, every classically trained person I know hates Abby and continually mocks her
Heard her sing once ... cringe
Same. I was so mad when I got ads for her videos. Saw her singing a Disney medley which was pretty cute, so I honestly thought she had a vocal performance channel and not one where she told women to be okay with being objectified... that was a let down
I work in opera and I had never heard of her until now.
“Do you want to be recognized for being beautiful or being sexy?”
...¿Por qué no los dos?
Mind isn't even an option because of her being as dense as a fucking neutron star
no se pq esto esta en español pero bueno
HAHAH fr
Claro si sos sexy los hombres no te pueden respetar. Si llegan a ver arriba de tus rodillas automáticamente se les apaga el cerebro. NO LO VES??¿
@@masicbemester Don't insult Neutron Stars please, they're actually interesting in a good way.
Should I be insulted at the implication that I’m biologically unable to treat women with respect?
Edit; holy shit I finished typing this like two seconds before he said it. This is historic!
Or that you/we're biologically incapable of being in touch with our emotions. Such antiquated beliefs.
Her tone is a lot her brother's. "Modesty-doesn't-care-about-your-feelings."
I wouldn’t be surprised if her brother writes her scripts.
her face is a lot like her brother's. It's downright creepy
Though to be fair, it's not as fast as her brother's.
@@soccerruben1 Benny speaks as quickly as he can, rather than using his natural cadence (clearly, he thinks it is intimidating). That is why he misspeaks so frequently.
@@scottyrobot It's Ben in a womansuit and makeup.
Wait, she's only 20?
So she's telling ladies what's best for them in their life experiences...despite not having experienced those things for herself.
Aight.
Holy shit really?
I thought she was Ben's age. She gives off 36 year old miserable housewife vibes.
ooooof, i'm 27 and people talk to me like i'm still 17 because i look really young. i thought she was in her 30's just from her looks.
@@doonzi_shoonzi2731 she's older! When you google her name, the age of a much younger actress shows up. She's actually in her 30s.
@@doonzi_shoonzi2731 She does look like him in a wig.
@@cgibabyhand thank you for informing me that she really *is* a miserable 36 year old housewife
"Do you want to be praised for your body, or for your family?"
Me: *laughs in childfree butch lesbian*
MOOD
My immediate response: ....neither? I want to be praised for being smart, kind and fucking brilliant.
"Men are visual creatures, not emotional ones." As a man far more interested in romance than sex, how dare you
"Do you want to be known for your body, or your family?" Are we in the puritan days, lady, wtf?
She wishes....
I mean, get the family in the bedroom if you want abbie, sure.
bean cat88 i don’t even think that was ever considered feminist, the core of feminism is striving towards equality not dragging others down - like how women’s suffrage was about gaining the right to vote, not taking it away from others (also i honestly think a lot of the “evidence” of those arguments goes back to the fox news style of arguing against points no one really makes)
@bean cat88 What
Please consider donating your body to science, as you might be the first ever man to have agency over what he actually wants in a relationship :0 /s
I laughed more than I should of at "ITS TIME TO D D D D D D D D dress like a lady"
Spit out my tea lmao
Hard same.
I read your comment before seeing it, and still wasn't ready.
Same here! I love a good Yu-Gi-Oh! reference lol
It’s time to d d d d d go to prison
i love how she tries to pretend her audience is all 'ladies' when in reality it's insecure teenage boys who want a housewife
@@cblka I am not sure which is worst.
When she talked about it being hard to find a community of conservative women, I felt a surge of fear. I have Christian relatives that would be sold by that because their views are old fashioned. They would eat this shit up.
@Anthony Bruno I think your culrure have really unhealthy And reductive way to look at women.
@Anthony Bruno So your culture is predicated entirely on the Madonna-whore complex? That's not stellar.
“not informed by shallow and sinister modern theories, but by our heritage” meeeegggaa yikes 😬
and we all know what "heritage" is code for
@@BetsyMalice what?
Abby isn’t even wearing a burqa, minus five hundred respect points.
Y'know what's funny? I live in Turkey and the kinda life these conservative Americans want is exactly how 80% of Turkish live here. They'd seriously be hella happy here. I'd be happy to trade places lol
Harmony Alexandria You have one group of crazies against another group of crazies
Yes, but aren't most Turkish people Muslim? I don't think that most conservative Americans like the Shapiros would want to mix with people with incredibly similar, yet different, religions.
@@BrieCheese I live in Brooklyn and, well things are different now, but before quarantine I saw Muslim women with hijabs and Orthodox women with denim skirts and cheap wigs every day, they live side by side pretty comfortably here at least.
Up next on Abby Shapiro's Show: Why we should bring SERFDOM back
I'm sure she has some deeply cogent arguments for that assertion./s (lol)
1. No feudal economy ever invented shoes
And in Abby's brave new world your gonna need to safeguard your internet with Serfshark VPN
Serfdom but only for conservative youtubers.
With me as the absolute monarch, of course.
Guys, I think Abby Shapiro might be a conservative influencer
Really?!?!?
I don´t say Abby is conservative influencer I just say we are not sure about that.
IDK man you bring a good argument, but I just can't agree
As a cis hetero male, I weirdly find it a bit insulting that someone would think "modestly dressed" women are somehow less targeted. Like, I think as myself as a fairly switched on feminist guy, but in the moments in my life where I slip and find myself ogling women in the street it's generally nothing to do with how they're dressed, but more their shape or their face or their general demeanour. I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm 30 and have a more chilled approach to the opposite sex, but the very idea that "modesty" somehow tricks the male psyche is kind of insulting.
quite frankly, men who sexualize women are going to sexualize them regardless of what they wear. they'll find anything to sexualize.
And honestly, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with sexualization, like as in finding people sexually attractive. It’s when that turns into objectification & they’re no longer treated like autonomous human beings that there becomes a problem 👍🏼
And when you add fetishes in to the mix, something as simple as walking barefoot, a fairly innocuous thing, can end up you having to play a role in a Tarantino film, and not one of the good ones. There’s nothing wrong with having that fetish (even if I don’t get it), but it’s the removal of body parts from the person they’re attached to (figuratively, but literally would also be a problem) that goes over the line of acceptability. Being physically attracted to a person is not even really a choice, so it’s always okay, but everything after that is a choice, and no amount of biology excuses objectification or assault etc. They made the choice to value their own feelings more than the target of their abuse.
stop ogling women 😔
@@eveningstarinthebluedarksky789 You missed the point. Reread for comprehension
"Let's take back the culture so that woman can be women."
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!
She wants to go back to the good old days where women could only be barefoot, pregnant, and making sammiches for their man.
she means back in the good old days of hanbarbara when women used floating rings to tie their hair up and omitted shoes because it made the vacuumasaurus nervous
@Hans Hanzo Or vote.
@@KhayJayArt Hell yeah brother
It means the good old days where it was socially acceptable to be a transphobe.
Jack Saint carries the torch of non-toxic masculinity in his pale, tense bicep
Touts "traditional, conservative" values.
Doesn't have her husband's last name...
K
Brand recognition is more important than traditional values
@@billythorpinson4012 lmao yikes
When she says that people do what they want without caring about the consequences. Like what are the consequences of dressing immodestly lol. Some person might look at you and think you are hot? The only consequences it seems like she could be talking about are victim blamey ones lol.
I thinks she’s insinuating that they’ll be assaulted because of how they dress
@@GarretRB Which is just-... incredibly ignorant.
@@GarretRB which happens to be victim blaming
She could be referring to the "degradation of world's morality" or some shit like that.
Every time victim blamers pin it on clothes, I'm reminded of the exhibition "What Were You Wearing?", where they showed the clothes rape victims were wearing when they were assaulted. Most of the outfits are not even close to what could be considered sexy attire... and among the motley clothes, there is a child’s school uniform. Blaming the victim for choosing "the wrong cloths" is fucking disgusting. I don't care if they were wearing nothing but a thong or if they were wearing overalls, it doesn't make them responsible for a rapist's choice.
I'm glad that Ben and Abby waste their money advertising to Commies and Anarchists instead of at-risk young men
i think ben and abby advertise to them too. There's a lot of money at their disposal. They can probably afford to everyone.
Abby Shapiro: Do you want to be praised for your body?
My brain completing the sentence: Or praised for your mind?
Abby Shapiro: Or praised for your family?
Me: Wait, what?
You got it bang on when you said isn't being respected for dressing modestly just being praised for how you dress with extra steps. You're right. There's no way to imply respect is only given to women by covering up without giving all the credit to the clothes and none to her personality, which goes against what Abby is trying to say.
If in her world men can't respect women without them wearing the proper clothing, that's terrifying, misogynistic, and needs to change, not something she should adhere to out of fear.
Nothing should change, except to make things more like they used to be when things were good. Which is a real time that really happened.
-The Shapiros, probably
So well said!! :D
@Autumn Potato 100%.
Lol you people must be in great shape with the amount of mental gymnastics y'all perform
@@HHTwice Pray tell?
The horror of your father-in-law being Ben Shapiro. I can imagine sitting down for a formal dinner with my in-laws, Ben sitting at the head of the table on his booster seat, just waiting for him to begin the high pitch whine of a tirade about indoctrinated youth or Palestine. It's only a matter of time before he does and you just have to carry on the dinner until he does. The thought of this sent chills down my spine.
you mean brother-in-law? Abby is Ben's sister.
@@FluorescenttheGirl I was under the impression she was his daughter. I must have misheard something at the beginning of the video
Or him hating on rap videos for saying the word pussy
I hate getting ads from her so much... I dont know why I get so many far right ads when I'm clearly not interested in that.
if you watch any sort of political videos, it's less about what type of political videos you watch and more the fact you watch them at all. the left generally doesn't pump thousands of dollars into ad campaigns because well. they just don't seem to be into that lol. the right on the other hand is very clearly interested in the traction one can gain from doing so. and i mean, it is clearly effective.
I haven't gotten any of her ads before, though I do get a shit ton of Prager U ads. Ugh.
I was a kid in the 90s. Look at 90s kid's fashion. Baggy androgynous tacky clothes. Hell we were poor so I mostly wore my brother's hand-me-downs.
Didn't stop my child molestor from sexualizing me.
Meanwhile as an adult I've had male friends not even care when they've been over on super hot days and I wanted to take my top off. (I'm trans so like.... My boobs are.... It's different idk my friends get it)
So yea. You really can't opt out of being sexualized Abby. Creeps are gonna do it no matter what. And decent guys are gonna be decent.
"This is Abby Shapiro's negative space."
*AD for sexy webtoon starts playing*
abby shapiro: “Why SEXY CLOTHES are causing GLOBAL WARMING”
Bold of u to assume she believes in climate change
because we're so sexy when wearing them that the earth got hot under the collar for us
don't forget the companion piece: "Why global warming is a hoax by China"
Why SEXY CLOTHES are causing GOD to SEND US PLAGUES!
I legit just thought this was Ben wearing a wig, I had no idea he had a sister
makes me wonder about her husband...
@@Romanticoutlaw also Ben in a wig
The entire Shapiro family is just Ben in various disguises, it’s the only explanation
@@valkyrie5579 except Mara. She's the only decent one there
You may be on to something.
i cant decide if abby is the dollar store girl defined, or if girl defined is the dollar store abby. either way, both channels do not cost over 99 cents im sure of it.
😂😂😂💀
Twas brillig
She’s definitely dollar store girl defined. Both channels suck but at least the girl defined women have *some* charisma
Abby, in every video: “Hello, beautiful ladies!”
Me, a cis man: “who, me?? ☺️ aw shucks”
Dude the clip you put in of her saying "how to pack like a woman" just made me think of packers and, as someone with multiple trans men friends, I was like "whoa don't call them that - they're men" before I remembered she would never give advice about THAT sort of packing omg my smol brain hours
"It's time to d-d-d-d-dress like a lady" absolutely wrecked me, thank you
ive been getting her ads so much. its so annoying.
I started getting them when I started watching Strange Aeons. It's so obnoxious.
I was able to get them removed from my feed.
I tried the clicking the do not show me this video, blocked the channel, and then finally sent youtube an email saying I did not want to see the videos anymore. A few days after sending the email, I stopped getting the ads.
Im not sure what step actually caused the ads to stop showing up though.
Lauren Harmon I tried reporting the channel xD
Is this a only USA thing? I have never hear her outside of criticism.
Don't be annoyed! Just think of it as her wasting money every time it pops up for you.
Algorithm comment - love the new camera
And cis reactionaries say trans people are "obsessed" with gender, ha. Does her identity consist of anything besides being a Conservative and a Woman? Credit where it's due, I will say her hair and makeup game are both on-point, though. But, does distracting men with your eyebrows count?
Them eyebrows are anything but conservative and that's a compliment.
@BillyFreeTX You have no idea of the biological reality. Not only do people with different chromosomes than XX and XY exist, it is also shown that trans people have more in common with the gender they identify with, not with the one assigned to them at birth. It also improves their mental condition to live as the gender they want. Do some research.
Werewolf brows, get some wolffbane.... Also, rhinoplasty couldn't hurt
I think her eyebrows are adorable, but I have a weakness for Jewish women.
@BillyFreeTX that's your rebuttal? outdated medical practices?
I'm convinced that Abby Shapiro is just Ben in a wig and makeup.
Ben could have made a _serious killing_ being a crossdresser! He's so pretty!
100%
@@General12th :|
Her voice is too deep
Girl, I want to be praised for myself.
I'm here to praise you for that comment.
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As a lesbian that has been getting buff in quarentian. I'm offended by the implication that rippling buff muscles are masculin.
Lol!
You have women muscles and women muscles are feminine. Man muscles are masculine. If you are a woman anything you do is feminine. That’s how we solve it. I solved it guys. Fuck wait that’s gendered. Back to the drawings boards people.
Rippling muscles are for being held and crushed by, yes.
Joe Average All I want in life is a buff, strong Scandinavian woman who can crack my skull like a sparrow egg. Life is cruel.
If anything, being buff and cis generally only highlights your associated gendered features as they define secondary sex characteristics i.e. hips or breasts
"hello girls"
As a transwomen all i can say is
Thank You abby!
BillyFreeTX
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@@twinkiesmaster69 What did they say? (The comment you replied to was deleted)
As an enby, I’m glad at least someone feels affirmed by that statement lol
Abby and her brother speak with a bizarre cadence and make creepy, exaggerated facial expressions....and it kind of grosses me out.
I'm convinced they are robots trying to pass themselves as humans
@@29jgirl92 The worst part is that they're just plain, shitty humans with a platform to spread shittiness. Depressing.
Given her videos' performance on youtube, Abby lives up to her role as a classical woman by neither being seen nor heard
Roasted 😝
oooooooooofff
I don't like her at all, but that one somehow hurt me a little
As a woman (most of the time) I find the way Abby speaks so damn condescending. Even if I did want to hear what she had to say I don't think I could sit through even one minute of one of her videos. You're not above the rest of us luv
"most of the time" ;) I see you, pal
The irony is that I’ve heard about her many times in conservative circles over the years, and every single time it was about her breasts. This counts for when she was signing opera too. Lefties just complain about having to see her recommended.
or her feetsies
ouch
Sadly people on the left also do that, a lot
“There’s a non-zero percent chance you got an add on behalf of the a Trump campaign, or PragerU, or the EpochTimes”
*immediately plays an ad from the Epoch Times*
Goddammit I got a second one
RIP
and take a look at this
I got a hefty ad with John Cena. Lol
I wonder how conservatives would take it if someone or some group on the left were to sponsor a bunch of ads on conservative videos.
"Conservative Influencer"? Is that just until she gets a real job, or...?
Ummm she s a famiLy maKer, she isn't allowed a job.😩 smh
That's just until she hires someone to bleach her hair blonde so FoxNews hires her to be the latest floppy jaw to pushout their power pellets of hate.
She’ll get a job at Fox let’s be real lmao
"bUt WhAt AbOuT tHe cHiLdReN" bro children don't even know what sex is
Classically Abby: Straight Outta Gilead
i just googled the word "Gilead" and this joke is absolutely golden 10/10
i wasn't prepared for "she's always been very voluptuous"
RIGHT, LIKE 🤢🤢🤢
ALWAYS? AHHHH
This man deserves to get a time-out from social media, ugh
Jack Saint: "you will get a right wing ad"
Two seconds later, my ad: "we deliver handpicked flowers right to your door"
I know your game, flower people! Back off with your conservative propaganda!
Bruh I wish. I just got an ad for the fuckin epoch times. They wanted me to check out some kind of "boot licking tutorial"
Between her ads and the avalanche of videos about her that think clever criticism means making sexist comments on appearance or family resemblance, I haven’t been this exasperated with my TH-cam feed As A Woman since 2016, thank you so much for this valid take^TM
Danger: "We desire to treat some people like shit."
People: "That would suck."
Danger: "You there. Bunch of people within arbitrary parameters. You're who we're going to treat like shit."
People: "Oh no. Sucks to be us."
Danger: "Then don't find yourself within those arbitrary parameters."
People: "Okay. We are now all, universally, not within those arbitrary parameters."
Danger: "The desire to treat some people like shit was not caused by the parameters, and therefore still remains when those parameters are eliminated."
People: "Oh no. Sucks to be you."
Danger: "We would rather it sucked to be you again. Here are a new set of arbitrary parameters. You're who we're going to treat like shit now."
People: "Not this again."
Danger: "Then don't find yourself within those arbitrary parameters this time around either."
People: "But then the same thing would just happen; you'd merely find other stuff to draw your category around."
Danger: "So long as we can keep treating someone like shit, hooray for us."
...
Conservative influencers: "BUT WHAT IF WE ACQUIESCE TO THEIR PARAMETERS HERPY DERP THAT'D SOLVE LITERAL EVERYTHING how has nobody thought of this before I'm so smart"
Before I watch the video, here’s my theory: Abby, like Ben, is a savvy marketer, and she not only knows fully well that online weirdos are attracted to her, but is capitalizing on the coomer market to either spread her videos or push said coomers to fall down the “modest” rabbit hole themselves. This doesn’t seem revelatory or groundbreaking in the slightest, but I still feel mildly smart for figuring it out, and at least I can act like I was the first to come up with it if I’m early enough to this comment section lmao
Im gonna bandwagon and say you're absolutely right. Her "fans" are everywhere, especially not youtube. And she must know what people say and think about her. I mean just see the photos she releases on her socials. Like really -.-. coomers gonna coom.
@Ashley Lynn Or, she's just better at this than you.
Coomer market fucking gets me
Her ads will not go away no matter how many times I put “not interested” on them
I just put them on mute and go do something else for a few minutes.
It supports the creaters I like in a small way and these people have to pay for an ad that I didn't watch.
The less money they have the less they can spend it on more ads or on funding bs propaganda channels.
@@noname-zp1yh I don't get them on TH-cam videos, only on the TH-cam site (on the front page or recommended bar)
I always flag for repetitive or inappropriate
My first thought on her statement about "dressing modestly" was that even assuming that what shes saying is actually true (which I doubt, but that aside for now) it is still victim blaming.
It's not your fault if people are being sexist pricks toward you, it's the people being sexist pricks.
Strange that the party of “personal responsibility” is happy to say men cannot control themselves.
@@danielludwig647 its victim blaming and disrespectful toward decent men
I love how they try to use the “family values” and “think of the children!!” and “traditional lifestyle” arguments when me and my boyfriend (both cis but not straight, btw) plan to foster and adopt kids while we run a hobby farm and keep bees and preserve our own food and he is a stay at home parent and writer, and I’m a lawyer/breadwinner. That is by all definitions a traditional household. There is a parent at home to be there for the children. There is a parent going out in the world to make money. We are learning traditional things like canning, agriculture, sewing, and woodworking.
But those are fucking dog whistles, as we know. And we’re gonna go be cottagecore/dark academia bis out in the woods and say fuck ‘em
I'm so into the self-sustainable lifestyle and I have to check myself when I click onto a conservative site for advice.
Beautiful life❤❤
i'm 100% stealing "cottagecore"
@@technopoptart That's what it's called in general, it's not Katherine's term.
Hell yeah dude, hope that life treats you well ^u^
You wonder what her parents are like, that she and her brother turned out like this.
The yu-gi-oh scene is the hardest I’ve laughed in a while
*talking about ads playing regardless*
"Tha-"
*Ad plays*
"-nks youtube!"
I laughed so hard
How do you live without ad-block , I would die
@@galacsinhajto mobile for me
@@kage6613 I installed youtube vanced on android otherwise i could not watch youtube. They have ramped up the ad placement lately, it can be as bad as tv tbh
at first when people were calling her ben shapiro’s sister i thought it was a meme and i didn’t realize she was actually ben shapiros sister
"conservative women can't find a community" ummm try a Church of Christ, honey
exactly! her saying that men are "visual creatures" just shows she sees them as animals which is pretty insulting.
She got no right trying to tell you how to dress modest and look good she has HORRIBLE fashion taste.
Which is about what I expect for conservatives.
oh my god yes
If someone wants to learn how to dress modestly fashionably, I'd suggest getting that advice from some hajabis
Their fashion taste far excels hers
17:27 My goodness she really has a necklace that says "Mrs" on it.
I could have gone my whole life without hearing that Ben Shapiro clip.
He should have gone with the clip where someone put his reading of the lyrics to the beat of the song
@@Hawkbreath36 that video is literal gold
There have been times and places where Abby’s uncovered hair and use of makeup would be considered unacceptably immodest.
What if we worked for a society where people could wear burqas side-by-side with people who are completely naked and nobody gave anybody any shit about how they were (un)dressed?
I recently saw a video of hers that was called "men: how to attract a conservative and classic woman"
What was the first of piece of advice for finding a conservative woman?
Get ready for it, it's a banger
"Don't date liberal women"
ABBY SHAPIRO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WHAT A GENIUS.
I saw that title and thought, "God no, that would be literal hell." I'd rather be single forever than be with a conservative woman.
@@kylewilliams8114 My sister-in-law calls my mother, sister, and me independent like it's an insult. Ok, whatever, but if something happened to my marriage I'd be fine financially. My mom had been single and supporting herself and all us kids as needed for probably 15 years. My sister has supported herself and son to the best of her ability before. She wouldn't be able to do the same, even if she wanted to. She can be proud of her conservativism if she wants, but I'm proud as shit that I don't have to be in a marriage that depends solely on the husband (and my parents and mother-in-law and generous people at church because I have more kids than we can afford).
@@susieq1279 Imagine considering independence a bad thing.
She looks like a modder put her facial animations to 150%
For real. My first thought when he showed clips of her was "what's wrong with her mouth".
It’s just this very performative, over-expressive way she talks. I’m sure her rich as shit family focus tested her videos and it came back saying she was dead-eyed and creepy, so she’s probably just trying to take that note.
"Have you heard of the High Elves?" - Ab'i Shapiro
Conservatives: "Women need to dress modestly because men are visual creatures who can't control their urges."
Me, a straight woman: *admiring beautiful shirtless guys in the park* ".... Huh? Were you saying something?"
I always laugh over the "men can't control their urges" argument.
Yeah, and all those screaming teenage girls really just wanted to take Harry Styles home for a cuddle and a cup of tea. 🤦♀️
Women are extremely sexual we're just shamed for it unlike men who are encouraged
@@athenajaxon2397
Actually, the exact opposite is true.
There's a reason why when a man touches a woman inappropriately, it's considered as sexual harassment, whereas if a woman touches a man inappropriately, it's considered "being spicey".
There's a reason why the ®@pe of women is taken very seriously, while the ®@pe of men is often joked about in the media. In fact, there are a number movies where a man gets ®@ped by a woman, and the scene is meant to be "hilarious".
Me, a straight guy at a topless beach: "Why would I ever oppose this?"
@@GTAVictor9128 that's not what I said at all, men are encouraged to be sexual, have sex and be a ladies man. When a guy has a one night stand he's congratulated, when a woman does it she's called a slut. Chris Evans nudes were leaked and no one shamed him for it but a females nudes are leaked and she's slut shamed. An elementary school teacher actually lost her job because her nudes were leaked without her permission. Men are constantly praised for being sexual creatures while women aren't
Watching Ben cringe and almost cry reading the lyrics to WAP was the highlight of my year. I almost died laughing.
The smugness of how Abby mentions she’s conservative makes me want to throw a chair out a window
i almost gagged at that clip of trump talking about his daughter
Modesty is only for mouses.
I’m out of gas dude
The whole world: Ben Shapiro is the most conservative conservative on the internet.
Classically Abby's channel exists: *a new challenger approaches*
She learned from the best (and by the best I mean the worst, of course!).
It’s really just the Cain instinct fueling them to out do the other but they’re making it everyone else’s problem too
Ben is far from the most conservative. That is what's scary.
Ben has to at least pay lip service to the “I’m the new breed of rebel conservative badass” thing, which while absolutely hilarious is one of the only tactics they’ve been successful with to siren-call some younger people over to their side. And that act means he at least has to pretend to not be 100% stodgy and repressed and restrictive and lame.
ngl, had a hard time paying attention cuz of those shelf eevees. i especially love mr faceless eevee and the one with the giant head and nose.
Abby: you can be modest without dressing like garbage!
Also Abby: *outfit in **12:34*
r/ThereWasAnAttempt :D
BRUTALS
Okay I hate to be defending Abby Shapiro but TO BE FAIR that’s a swimsuit she’s wearing. Presumably she’s not wearing it out on the town (but then nothing would surprise me at this point).
Katie M ok that makes a lot more sense, but at the same time, there has to be a skirt that matches the swimsuit more. Or even ditch the covering and wear a wet suit? No?
Eh, as long as the woman is fit and attractive, she can wear a literal piece of cardboard and still look good.
Abby is the most hyperfundamental evangelical christian-sounding jewish person i've ever seen
Lucky for you, I only got a Chinese concubine game ad and a Nordic horror film, you're off the hook
Mine (on phone where my add block don´t work that well) is to visit Hungary. Like what i would do there, they have no hills to talk about.
@@petrfedor1851 but we got fascism uwu
@@leventetakacs1641 We have enough of that here in Czcehia as well.
I see those concubine game ads constantly. Now I know that the alternative is apparently Abby Shapiro or the Trump campaign bring on the women that were good in a past life but now want to be evil !
I think my favorite part of her channel getting promoted is the moment I realized "Classically" was a direct rebranding of "Traditional/Trad" and the implications that had.
abby’s husband looks like a very damaged survivor of conversion therapy
I shouldn't have laughed that hard, but holy hell, comment of the day.
Prescott Majette I’m just sayin, any man who gets with a woman with ben shapiro’s face...
@@Romanticoutlaw Ehhh, I'm not here to shame anybody for how they look. There's plenty of shameful bullshit coming out of her mouth that's much more valid to criticize.
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@Romantic Outlaw, he got a choice. Either accept a beard or go to mega gay conversion therapy
My mom is 50, 4’11” and is physically the strongest person I know. I don’t think she minds being praised for her body lol.