I got a pair of DH Rock Hihats and a DH 18"Rock Crash, and they sound truly amazing! My friends who were also amazed can't believe the sound they hear. Listening outside gave them thought that I was finally able to seriously purchased some expensive cymbals... Then they told me to get the Sensa or DH Medium Ride after we watched this video. But for me the DH Rock Rides will maintain the sound expectation of the DH Series. I'll soon purchase that. This video really helpful! Awesome drummer James Chapman!
Hey, what's your experience with Stagg cymbals? Are they break easily? I've heard that they made some fantastic china cymbals, but they break after just couple of months😕 There are several very affordable Stagg rides available in a local music store here in Belgrade (Serbia), but without any description... Available models are: STAGG DH RH20E, STAGG DH RR20B and STAGG DH-RM20B. The only thing I get is that all of these are 20". How would you compare them with Paiste Alpha series?
@@markomarkovic5729 in indonesia stagg endorses rock drummer gilang nr, and he break his cymbal over 1,5 year . If you see him play ,he hit the cymbal so hard
@@Fucklesticks Now that you mention... I don't have particularly good technique either, but I've never broken a cymbal since I've been playing drums, and it's about to be 22 years since I sat down behind a drum kit for the first time.😀And I've played some reaaaaly cr.appy cymbals, much more often than some quality b20 stuff.
Good work man!!!Can you inform of some distributor in Greece when someone can find all series of Stagg cause only the cheap shit series came here and the name of this company isn't too up in the musicians choices but only for begginers??Thanks!
just discovered stagg about, 30 minutes ago... i'm really interested in the furia series, but i can't find much on them. any info on them coming soon? great channel BTW!
+James Chapman just got a set of 15" furia hats off ebay for 100 US, they're some of the best sounding hats I've ever heard. I'd put um with my zildjian k/z set all day long. they're fantastic.
Furia are great bright sounding, fast reacting cymbals, perfect for pop rock like red hot chillis and that kind of thing imo, they are cutting, quite explosive, short decay. I love the 10 inch splash and often use it where normally I would hit a regular 16 inch crash!
+Peter Suriner Hey, I don't think i'll do a video on that because allot of people don't understand too well (I did one a while back), but your best bet is to get in contact with Stagg and ask them what they can do.
the newer DH rides sounds completely different than the old ones, and I don't like the new sound at all.... I had a chance to buy a DH rock ride from old series for a very very good price but I had missed it :/
+James Chapman Cool, I was waiting for it. All of these were very musical, as Stagg tends to be, but they didn't cut through the guitar much. Maybe do another vid with 22"s and we can see how Stagg competes with Paiste Rude, etc.
+William Robinson No Problem. To be fair, some of these rides do cut through very well, especially the 20" DH exo extra dry, 21" Myra bell ride, and the 21" SH Rock ride. But because most of my work is in the studio i tend to have a very "studio" playing style - I hit the drums very hard and stay softer on the cymbals to help in the mix. Thats why in most videos i'll have a mic on the ride as well, but for this is wanted it to be very natural and just show tonal differences with a pair of overheads. I'll think up some ways that might show a more live sound of these for future videos.
do you encounter rumbling noise on the low end? I am planing to upgrade my tom mics because I have cheap samson r21 mic and i use it on my toms but i encounter rumbling low end on toms. they're mounted using drum mic clip
I don't really use them much anymore, but no, I always had great results with them. They're very good sounding mics. The main thing I will say is that microphones are allot more direct than our ears since they're hearing the drum from only a couple of inches away. So its very very important to make sure your bearing edges on your drums are fine, and that the drums are tuned well with good heads.
HAHA! yes! As a general rule, drum heads have about 20 hours of life in them. So 20 hours of playing. roughly. you can get way longer out of them, but chances are the stock heads aren't as high quality as heads you'd replace with anyway!
Unfortunately I can’t see any videos on your channel but I’m sure you’re much more of an expert at this than me. You just just have forgotten to post them. Please accept my most humble apologies for not making my demo the way that you want it. This shows the cymbals in a musical context so that you can hear how the cymbal cuts through or blends into the mix of a band. (Something lots of people never consider when choosing cymbals then wonder why they sound crap at rehearsal) The overhead mic sound tells you how the cymbal sounds in person with no studio processing so that you can clearly hear the tone as you would hear it when you are choosing a cymbal in person. But I can understand how doing this and comparing 16 different cymbals in the same controlled manner would tell you nothing. So tell me, how would you like me to make your demo for you instead? Perhaps I shouldn’t play to backing tracks so that people who cant get gigs can hear how it’ll sound in their bedroom? And maybe I should only use a close mic with eq on the ride rather than overhead mics so that it sounds unnatural and nothing like the cymbal actually sounds? Or maybe I just just stop recording the cymbal with mics altogether and just use an iPhone so that the built in limiter and compression totally destroys the tone?
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I got a pair of DH Rock Hihats and a DH 18"Rock Crash, and they sound truly amazing! My friends who were also amazed can't believe the sound they hear. Listening outside gave them thought that I was finally able to seriously purchased some expensive cymbals... Then they told me to get the Sensa or DH Medium Ride after we watched this video. But for me the DH Rock Rides will maintain the sound expectation of the DH Series. I'll soon purchase that. This video really helpful! Awesome drummer James Chapman!
Hey, what's your experience with Stagg cymbals? Are they break easily? I've heard that they made some fantastic china cymbals, but they break after just couple of months😕 There are several very affordable Stagg rides available in a local music store here in Belgrade (Serbia), but without any description... Available models are: STAGG DH RH20E, STAGG DH RR20B and STAGG DH-RM20B. The only thing I get is that all of these are 20". How would you compare them with Paiste Alpha series?
@@markomarkovic5729 in indonesia stagg endorses rock drummer gilang nr, and he break his cymbal over 1,5 year . If you see him play ,he hit the cymbal so hard
@@markomarkovic5729 Not for me... I don't have amaaaaazing technique but i have some stagg cymbals that i bought 15 years ago and not a single dent
@@Fucklesticks Now that you mention... I don't have particularly good technique either, but I've never broken a cymbal since I've been playing drums, and it's about to be 22 years since I sat down behind a drum kit for the first time.😀And I've played some reaaaaly cr.appy cymbals, much more often than some quality b20 stuff.
Thanks for the video. Super helpful comparison.
The DH cymbals sound really nice, and SH isn't far behind. My opinion. Some of the BM seem lovely, too.
are u gonna make the hihat comparison? i can' wait for it
What types of hi hats and crash cymbals were there in this video? Thanks for the great Stagg demos.
I think these are stagg dh 14 exo hats.
(Sorry for my bad english.)
20" VB Medium..... love it.
I loved the 21 sh rock ride personally i loved the slight ping but heavy wash it had :D Lance have you thought about reworking any old stagg cymbals?
I rarely come across these here in Montreal... occasional... but not often. I do like them.
hey! great cymbals! who knew? not me!
Very good! God bless you! 🙏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Rock Myra is killer ride. I played it last night at an open gig it was soooooo damn nice. Good job stagg
And available from around £60.00 used. I had one but didn't like it.
What demon do I need to sell my soul to to get such an unholy floor tom sound? Even through overheads it sounds absolutely fantastic!
+Stefan S Haha! thanks! Sonor drums tune really low, and Remo emperor top AND bottom really beef up the sound of floor toms.
Nice demo!
can you do a video on the smaller vb series rides for jazz? thanks
Dh exo 20" heavy ride and Myra 22" ride.
Man them Staggs sound Awesome, I'll trade Sab or Zil for a Stagg ride James, pls let me know & I'll send pics, I have plenty, thanks
Good work man!!!Can you inform of some distributor in Greece when someone can find all series of Stagg cause only the cheap shit series came here and the name of this company isn't too up in the musicians choices but only for begginers??Thanks!
Vamos sh!!
Any chance you could demo the 21" Sensa Sweet ride using it as a crash?
just discovered stagg about, 30 minutes ago... i'm really interested in the furia series, but i can't find much on them. any info on them coming soon? great channel BTW!
+koolBOY8323 Hey! The Furia series are very similar in tone to the Myra, but slightly faster sounding and have a hint of trash with the tone.
+James Chapman just got a set of 15" furia hats off ebay for 100 US, they're some of the best sounding hats I've ever heard. I'd put um with my zildjian k/z set all day long. they're fantastic.
Furia are great bright sounding, fast reacting cymbals, perfect for pop rock like red hot chillis and that kind of thing imo, they are cutting, quite explosive, short decay. I love the 10 inch splash and often use it where normally I would hit a regular 16 inch crash!
Hey James could you do a video on how we could get a chance to get sponsored by Stagg?
+Peter Suriner Hey, I don't think i'll do a video on that because allot of people don't understand too well (I did one a while back), but your best bet is to get in contact with Stagg and ask them what they can do.
what is the difference between the Myra rock and the Myra rock brilliant ride?
I just recently bought a used 20 inch VB. Sounds too dry and low pitched as compared to the one here. Kinda closer to a K custom dry.
the newer DH rides sounds completely different than the old ones, and I don't like the new sound at all.... I had a chance to buy a DH rock ride from old series for a very very good price but I had missed it :/
James, what crashes do you used here?
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Was the Black Metal line dropped? VB replace it?
No, the BM are still available, I just didn't have one to hand for this demo. Stagg make allot of other models in addition to the ones featured here.
+James Chapman Cool, I was waiting for it. All of these were very musical, as Stagg tends to be, but they didn't cut through the guitar much. Maybe do another vid with 22"s and we can see how Stagg competes with Paiste Rude, etc.
+William Robinson No Problem. To be fair, some of these rides do cut through very well, especially the 20" DH exo extra dry, 21" Myra bell ride, and the 21" SH Rock ride. But because most of my work is in the studio i tend to have a very "studio" playing style - I hit the drums very hard and stay softer on the cymbals to help in the mix. Thats why in most videos i'll have a mic on the ride as well, but for this is wanted it to be very natural and just show tonal differences with a pair of overheads. I'll think up some ways that might show a more live sound of these for future videos.
what in ear monitor are you using?
+irfan ahmad In This video i was using Shure Se215's. Usually i use InEar SD3's but the Shure are great too.
Only cymbals pleasee!!! Without music. No music. Sin música.
Juan Cortese there is a section in every clip with only the overhead mics and no music.
Andy McKee?
samson microphones on toms?
yep!
do you encounter rumbling noise on the low end? I am planing to upgrade my tom mics because I have cheap samson r21 mic and i use it on my toms but i encounter rumbling low end on toms. they're mounted using drum mic clip
I don't really use them much anymore, but no, I always had great results with them. They're very good sounding mics. The main thing I will say is that microphones are allot more direct than our ears since they're hearing the drum from only a couple of inches away. So its very very important to make sure your bearing edges on your drums are fine, and that the drums are tuned well with good heads.
thanks! probably its because I still use the stock heads for about 7 months maybe lol
HAHA! yes! As a general rule, drum heads have about 20 hours of life in them. So 20 hours of playing. roughly. you can get way longer out of them, but chances are the stock heads aren't as high quality as heads you'd replace with anyway!
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stagg furia?
falta el furia rock ride
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Genghis?
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Not much for the bells.
This tells me nothing. Get rid of the backing track and that crappy overhead mic sound.
Unfortunately I can’t see any videos on your channel but I’m sure you’re much more of an expert at this than me. You just just have forgotten to post them. Please accept my most humble apologies for not making my demo the way that you want it. This shows the cymbals in a musical context so that you can hear how the cymbal cuts through or blends into the mix of a band. (Something lots of people never consider when choosing cymbals then wonder why they sound crap at rehearsal) The overhead mic sound tells you how the cymbal sounds in person with no studio processing so that you can clearly hear the tone as you would hear it when you are choosing a cymbal in person. But I can understand how doing this and comparing 16 different cymbals in the same controlled manner would tell you nothing. So tell me, how would you like me to make your demo for you instead? Perhaps I shouldn’t play to backing tracks so that people who cant get gigs can hear how it’ll sound in their bedroom? And maybe I should only use a close mic with eq on the ride rather than overhead mics so that it sounds unnatural and nothing like the cymbal actually sounds? Or maybe I just just stop recording the cymbal with mics altogether and just use an iPhone so that the built in limiter and compression totally destroys the tone?