robert glasper trio play jelly's da beener charlie wrights london rob bustin out his hottest blues chops. 'can we get a vodka cranberry over here? .... make that 3!'
INNOVATION!! (GLASPER AND DAVE) they have earned their place in MUSIC HISTORY!! (In my Opinion) i think this is the movement Jazz should have went to if ANY! WYNTON MARSALIS is one of the FEW in jazz worth still listening too..
chris dave is just mad, like a completely different brain to the rest of us ughhhh, don't fully understand how he's still on beat the whole time! crazy!!!
Man...Brad Mehldau is the truth. First heard him years ago through a friend of mine, a fellow jazz musician. I had never before (and still haven't since) heard a more fluent and melodious solo genius in my life. It's like everything he does just flows into everything else effortlessly. Quite refreshing in this age where many musicians equate complexity and skill with how "off" you can get.
I'm telling you, I keep coming back to this one. This is a good video to check out what Dave brings to the table. I love that it sounds like the groove is about to unravel, but it never does. He has this way of laying a groove on top of a groove...it's brilliant, clear, and inspiring.
so true. chris is the only drummer i know of who i've heard be that experimental when it comes to bass drum patterns. it sounds so unique, but at the same time, so natural. grooves in 7 are so great.
This has become one of my favorite Dave videos. As for the refferences to other drummers and people - Vinnie C, and Gad are cool, Wynton isn't my fav - I like Branford better. Can't take away from Wynton's work ethic though, and the dude was able to do both jazz and classical - I think that's something significant. As for sheer inspiration and creativity - Chris Dave is the new cat. He strays from the time, yet he owns the time... it's refreshing.
i hear you.. i love this movement this is were its at..when it comes to the older style and sound i like wynton.. and of course nearly all the jazz ledg....
You speak the truth. It's nigh impossible to balance one's desire to do cool shit with the basic responsibility of giving the music what it needs. Especially when you're brimming with cool shit to play, like Chris Dave. I'd say it's the number one thing that many modern jazz musicians are thinking about the least.
@willplez That's a good analogy. I guess whenever I work on new poly-rhythm stuff, I usually write them down and see exactly how each rhythm plays against each other.. you can usually set "landmarks" on the way. i.e if you are playing dotted quarters against quarter note in 4/4 you will be on the beat on beat 4 and beat 3 of the 2nd measure..etc. You can do that with triplets, quintuplets.. the possibilities are limitless
It sounds like 7 to me. Dave isn't always playing the bass drum on "the 1", but if you listen to Glasper and the bassist, it sounds like the song is in 7. 7/4. Your ears aren't lying to you... it's just that Dave is an animal. I'm still blown away by this.
doc Wynton was the first musician in history to win a classical and jazz grammy. he is criticized for his traditional Jazz but check out his rendition of (cherokee) If you love Music especially Jazz and U play a (HORN) especially you have to admire his skills and creativity.. go buy or at least listen (Standard Time Vol.1) i promise to GOD if you like this you will like Standard time..vol.1 syncopated rhythms. crazy transitions! Standard time came out in the Mid 80's..
Bruuuuuuh, you know what's funny about Chris? You ever heard of 'The Millionaire Next Door'? Well, Chris is 'Super Drummer Next Door'. The way this dude carries himself, you would NEVER think he was a world-class drummer. Like, there are a lot of good drummers, and a lot of great ones, but not only does he groove so hard, but some of the things he can do technically are kind of unreal. I mean that literally. I can't imagine how much this guy has practiced in his life, but it is abundantly clear he has practiced A LOT, for MANY years. Not only that, but he has clearly pushed himself. To hell with that, it's like this dude gets high, and thinks, 'What should I practice today'? Some of the things I've seen him pull seems unthinkable, and yet he thinks of it and actually practices it.
Listen you all, because the seven beats in the measure are quarter notes if I'm not mistaken that is what makes it 7/4. If it were seven eighth notes to a measure it would be 7/8.
Still loving this video. Still can't figure out what he's doing in the bass drum. I'd have to slow it down from the beginning till about 1minute in. He makes it sound like two different feelings... loving the interplay between Glasper and Dave. Glasper lets Dave go, and Glasper uses simple ideas. It's amazing how this all comes together. There are times when Dave settles into something and times when he goes crazy. It's high level!
you're right.. listening to it again.. I think the problem might just be the recording itself.. it's coming through the video mic.. I can see the bass player reacting to the drummer but I can't really hear it.. I do love the feeling of this performance though.. especially now that I listened to it through the drummer instead of the piano player.. thanks.
The only one who you can't hear as much is the bassist. Dave doesn't miss a beat, and he's with Glasper in everything that Glasper does. You may like to hear more piano in your mix than anything else - makes sense if it's a piano trio. I've never heard any other drummer with Dave's approach. I still can't figure out how to notate that crazy groove - in 7 nonetheless. Steamrolling? You need to check out some other clips of Dave on TH-cam. This dude has more than you think under his belt.
Man, in a fucked up way this all fits into 4. They've taken 7 and made it feel like 4. That's why I'm so into this scene. It's not about doing nerdy shit with meters. It's about feel. Chris Dave may be flashy, but no one will, no one CAN, doubt that feel.
@willplez it's one of Glasper's tunes. Great band, check them out. Glasper is a beast and and chris dave is on your to do list if you're a drummer. He's tight as shit.
i'm not sure i agree. i lovvvvve glasper's playing and i'm feeling like Dave is sort of steamrolling over the subtleties in Glasper's riffs. it may also be that the 'mix' on this clip is drums heavy.
I love Chris Dave, but at points he is making this about him. His various rhythmic concepts are brilliant and can be felt in so many different ways. It's the times he plays them like tricks that cheapens the music. I'm with you on this one. But don't knock the Daddy. He's the man. Try just listening to the stuff he does, like isolated. If nothing else, it's fun as hell.
It's in 7 for sure, but Chris is doing some stuff to imply 4/4.. I think that's where the confusion is. You can imply a lot of things over any meter.. like 3/4, 5/4 or subdividing triplets in groups of 4, 5..etc. The trick is to not get lost when the other rhythm is crossing over and you still feel where you are and where 1 is in the original meter. I still get lost when I do stuff with drummers like this, but when it locks in and I keep it together, it can be a lot of fun.
he plays that much because he wants to. obvi he can be restrained, he played with mint condition, ann nesby etc etc. saying he plays too much is like saying jaco played too much.
That is what I said. "They've taken 7 and made it feel like 4." You have successfully repeated what I said. Sorry if this was unclear, but I know the difference between 7 and 4. What do people think they are accomplishing when they make comments like this?
.. but.. he's still too busy.. he's not supporting the music.. Tony williams was able to do all his stuff and still somehow hold the music up.. but he did have Ron Carter right next to him.. ron was really the time keeper..
wow... you must be joking... or you're probably a punk rocker. Pianists don't play so that your impatient desire for fast and percussive sounds is quenched, they play to hold all of the music in a session together. Without the pianist there would be no constant musical force for the drummer to deviate from in his hits and fills. Even if he can hear the melody in his head, the music would lose all its substance.
When Chris Dave becomes a human being let me know.
Not happening. Will give you a ring when he visits from Jupiter tho.
same
can we bring this back to the algorithm? let's get 10 million views on this beezy
INNOVATION!! (GLASPER AND DAVE) they have earned their place in MUSIC HISTORY!! (In my Opinion) i think this is the movement Jazz should have went to if ANY! WYNTON MARSALIS is one of the FEW in jazz worth still listening too..
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CHRIS DAVE IS FILLLLLLLLLTTTHYYY.
Love the set, love the playing.
Keep it coming.
REAL MUSIC BY REAL MUSICIANS!!!! thank God for TH-cam!
alan is the dopest dude on the bass. i had the most respect for him in school and i was in a whole different department
Amazing
Chris Dave plays all around the beat, but his time is perfect. Like Elvin.
chris dave is just mad, like a completely different brain to the rest of us ughhhh, don't fully understand how he's still on beat the whole time! crazy!!!
Man...Brad Mehldau is the truth. First heard him years ago through a friend of mine, a fellow jazz musician. I had never before (and still haven't since) heard a more fluent and melodious solo genius in my life. It's like everything he does just flows into everything else effortlessly. Quite refreshing in this age where many musicians equate complexity and skill with how "off" you can get.
that's the most wicked 7 I've heard in ages!!!! beast!
CHRIS DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm telling you, I keep coming back to this one. This is a good video to check out what Dave brings to the table. I love that it sounds like the groove is about to unravel, but it never does. He has this way of laying a groove on top of a groove...it's brilliant, clear, and inspiring.
Possibly the best trio I have seen.
Hope they make a return visit to the Sage, Gateshead.
so true. chris is the only drummer i know of who i've heard be that experimental when it comes to bass drum patterns. it sounds so unique, but at the same time, so natural. grooves in 7 are so great.
Incredible on all fronts.
That's Jaaazzzz
This has become one of my favorite Dave videos. As for the refferences to other drummers and people - Vinnie C, and Gad are cool, Wynton isn't my fav - I like Branford better. Can't take away from Wynton's work ethic though, and the dude was able to do both jazz and classical - I think that's something significant. As for sheer inspiration and creativity - Chris Dave is the new cat. He strays from the time, yet he owns the time... it's refreshing.
I'm speechless!!!
chris dave is something else
my god!!! that was BEAUTIFUL
i hear you.. i love this movement this is were its at..when it comes to the older style and sound i like wynton.. and of course nearly all the jazz ledg....
You speak the truth. It's nigh impossible to balance one's desire to do cool shit with the basic responsibility of giving the music what it needs. Especially when you're brimming with cool shit to play, like Chris Dave. I'd say it's the number one thing that many modern jazz musicians are thinking about the least.
I love Chris´s tshirt..
Yes
i think this is the one drummer who would make you think twice about tony royster playing show me what you got. he'd smash it!!!
NUTS!!! BEASTS ON A MISSION!!
@willplez
That's a good analogy. I guess whenever I work on new poly-rhythm stuff, I usually write them down and see exactly how each rhythm plays against each other.. you can usually set "landmarks" on the way. i.e if you are playing dotted quarters against quarter note in 4/4 you will be on the beat on beat 4 and beat 3 of the 2nd measure..etc. You can do that with triplets, quintuplets.. the possibilities are limitless
Sweet!!, I agree... more vodka for me too!
It sounds like 7 to me. Dave isn't always playing the bass drum on "the 1", but if you listen to Glasper and the bassist, it sounds like the song is in 7. 7/4.
Your ears aren't lying to you... it's just that Dave is an animal. I'm still blown away by this.
doc Wynton was the first musician in history to win a classical and jazz grammy. he is criticized for his traditional Jazz but check out his rendition of (cherokee) If you love Music especially Jazz and U play a (HORN) especially you have to admire his skills and creativity.. go buy or at least listen (Standard Time Vol.1) i promise to GOD if you like this you will like Standard time..vol.1 syncopated rhythms. crazy transitions! Standard time came out in the Mid 80's..
cris dave yeah man!
yeah, this is crazy, its in 7 and 4 at the same time!
Bruuuuuuh, you know what's funny about Chris? You ever heard of 'The Millionaire Next Door'? Well, Chris is 'Super Drummer Next Door'. The way this dude carries himself, you would NEVER think he was a world-class drummer. Like, there are a lot of good drummers, and a lot of great ones, but not only does he groove so hard, but some of the things he can do technically are kind of unreal. I mean that literally. I can't imagine how much this guy has practiced in his life, but it is abundantly clear he has practiced A LOT, for MANY years. Not only that, but he has clearly pushed himself. To hell with that, it's like this dude gets high, and thinks, 'What should I practice today'? Some of the things I've seen him pull seems unthinkable, and yet he thinks of it and actually practices it.
That's exacltly what i think
nice
genius.
nasty grooves here.
Listen you all, because the seven beats in the measure are quarter notes if I'm not mistaken that is what makes it 7/4. If it were seven eighth notes to a measure it would be 7/8.
What's the debate? This joint is CLEARLY in 7/4.
must watch; exemplary
Aye¡
Still loving this video. Still can't figure out what he's doing in the bass drum. I'd have to slow it down from the beginning till about 1minute in. He makes it sound like two different feelings... loving the interplay between Glasper and Dave. Glasper lets Dave go, and Glasper uses simple ideas. It's amazing how this all comes together. There are times when Dave settles into something and times when he goes crazy. It's high level!
7/8
nod and play, nod and play
You'll be surprised, then, if you listen to his albums.
Word!!!
yeah, gotta love blanchard... i'm seein them in 3 weeks.
wowwwwww
Yeah. It's pretty tasty.
you're right.. listening to it again.. I think the problem might just be the recording itself.. it's coming through the video mic.. I can see the bass player reacting to the drummer but I can't really hear it.. I do love the feeling of this performance though.. especially now that I listened to it through the drummer instead of the piano player.. thanks.
free is the future!!!
The only one who you can't hear as much is the bassist. Dave doesn't miss a beat, and he's with Glasper in everything that Glasper does. You may like to hear more piano in your mix than anything else - makes sense if it's a piano trio. I've never heard any other drummer with Dave's approach. I still can't figure out how to notate that crazy groove - in 7 nonetheless. Steamrolling? You need to check out some other clips of Dave on TH-cam. This dude has more than you think under his belt.
yeah i see what you're sayin'
what does Dave use to the left of his evo crash? sounds like a stack but i dont see it. anyone?
No way in hell this sounds like 4....its obviously 7
no need, that's correct. if not, what is it?
bahahha.
You 4got Vinnie C. and Steve Gadd....but yes I do agree with you
Man, in a fucked up way this all fits into 4. They've taken 7 and made it feel like 4. That's why I'm so into this scene. It's not about doing nerdy shit with meters. It's about feel. Chris Dave may be flashy, but no one will, no one CAN, doubt that feel.
Hot...
What song is this?
@WahkibaJ definitely in 7
neko nya-
totyuude
naiteruyo
I want that sound for my new gretsch kit!!!
Does he tune the bass drum high or does he put muffling in it ?
@willplez it's one of Glasper's tunes. Great band, check them out. Glasper is a beast and and chris dave is on your to do list if you're a drummer. He's tight as shit.
guess again
i'm not sure i agree. i lovvvvve glasper's playing and i'm feeling like Dave is sort of steamrolling over the subtleties in Glasper's riffs. it may also be that the 'mix' on this clip is drums heavy.
its a shirt made by "obey" ..
7/4 or 7/8 i guess.
yeah cuz its uh takatakata feel like such ya dig??
how many strikes per minute
Cud b wrong but I think in one of the other clips from this gig he's got a chain or something sitting on the cymbal
The drummer is very good, bu t the pianist is very good lounge-music maker..
So... what you really mean is 7.
I love Chris Dave, but at points he is making this about him. His various rhythmic concepts are brilliant and can be felt in so many different ways. It's the times he plays them like tricks that cheapens the music. I'm with you on this one. But don't knock the Daddy. He's the man. Try just listening to the stuff he does, like isolated. If nothing else, it's fun as hell.
there is a difference between 74 and 78
Ummmm, that good good!
yeah man i thought "beatrice" off of "in my element" was 4 for the longest time, though i think the drummer may have been different then.
**what cymbal**
It's in 7 for sure, but Chris is doing some stuff to imply 4/4.. I think that's where the confusion is. You can imply a lot of things over any meter.. like 3/4, 5/4 or subdividing triplets in groups of 4, 5..etc. The trick is to not get lost when the other rhythm is crossing over and you still feel where you are and where 1 is in the original meter. I still get lost when I do stuff with drummers like this, but when it locks in and I keep it together, it can be a lot of fun.
lol i dont understand musically inept people, if you cant keep count just bob your head to the tempo like a metronome it makes no difference
he plays that much because he wants to. obvi he can be restrained, he played with mint condition, ann nesby etc etc. saying he plays too much is like saying jaco played too much.
2 people can't count in 7
Don't ever base a musicians playing by 1 video or song.....you could be missing out.....
I always thought that Brad Mehldau was a white guy. I guess I was wrong.
Spray fart?
That is what I said. "They've taken 7 and made it feel like 4." You have successfully repeated what I said. Sorry if this was unclear, but I know the difference between 7 and 4. What do people think they are accomplishing when they make comments like this?
not sonically. Only in how it's read.
Not quite my tempo
.. but.. he's still too busy.. he's not supporting the music.. Tony williams was able to do all his stuff and still somehow hold the music up.. but he did have Ron Carter right next to him.. ron was really the time keeper..
nice performance.. digging the Piano and Bass combo.. drummer too busy for my taste.. I think it holds the music back from it's full depth..
what? You're not wrong he is white..
wow... you must be joking... or you're probably a punk rocker. Pianists don't play so that your impatient desire for fast and percussive sounds is quenched, they play to hold all of the music in a session together. Without the pianist there would be no constant musical force for the drummer to deviate from in his hits and fills. Even if he can hear the melody in his head, the music would lose all its substance.
wynton is a monster bepbop player but his music is lame.