Why Did The Viking Age Begin ?

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  • @tomurg
    @tomurg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    Denmark: We are going to build a wall and we are going to make the Franks pay for it

    • @goblinslaya7328
      @goblinslaya7328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      dead joke

    • @PunkerTrottzEltern
      @PunkerTrottzEltern 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeahhhh problem is, there where no countrys back than, because of the thought of nationalisme is a pretty new thing from the 18 hundrets. Also the first wall is from around the jear 400, whene the Frankish empier was not even a thing. comming from the area and where at the Dannevirke when they found out.
      And jeah im fun at partys.

    • @Maxibon2007
      @Maxibon2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well…the Angles (who were from what is now Denmark) 300 year prior were doing the exact same thing to the Late Romans /Romano British, they then took over Britain, Christianised and the ones who remained “evolved” into the “proper” Vikings and started doing the same thing to them. Meanwhile the Welsh (the descendants of the Romano British) probably sat back muttering “how do YOU like it now!?”

    • @kevcaratacus9428
      @kevcaratacus9428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Maxibon2007 the saxon pirates were attacking Roman merchant ships along the English channel & north sea from the 200 s onwards until end of Roman Britain.
      Costing the empire so much the Romans had a new ships built & deployed to protect the cross channel traders. The 1st navy designated to protect the channel.
      People think the Vikings were something original, but like you said it was happening almost 500 yrs before the Vikings started raiding this island.

    • @kevcaratacus9428
      @kevcaratacus9428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Maxibon2007
      the Welsh were a separate people with their own language already existed long before the Germanic tribes came to Britain.
      The Welsh English border wasn't anything like we have today .
      People from middle & even eastern England didn't all leg it to Wales when the saxons came .
      The Celts remained throughout the Roman ,saxon & Norman invasions,
      The regular people just adopted the new rulers ways & languages.
      Obviously thats a simplified version of a complex time .
      The main changers were at the top, the elite ( ruling ) classes .

  • @Rovarin
    @Rovarin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    In the Faroes they did a similar study on DNA as the one in Iceland. The results were similar to an extent, with male ancestry being 87% Norse and female ancestry being 84% Scottish/Irish.

  • @rubinhoho3393
    @rubinhoho3393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Thanks for providing quality content for us all again!

  • @princekrazie
    @princekrazie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    We are currently in year 1226 VE, Viking Era, which starts with 793, the raid on lindisfarne.

    • @Skelstoolbox
      @Skelstoolbox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      NICE... Best comment on youtube... I'm gonna use that measurement too from now on.. God wouldn't it have been great to live then? I'd raid in a second for riches and women instead of slaving away for min. wage my whole life.. few job prospects here..

    • @Skelstoolbox
      @Skelstoolbox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@modlio745 Me? What edge, the bleak future and lack of social mobility in many western countries is less of an edge and more like a cliff.

    • @SynValorum1
      @SynValorum1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@modlio745 In the Dark Ages you can be King for a day! Traveling poet by night! And dead by highwaymen before sunrise!

    • @modlio745
      @modlio745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SynValorum1 This sounds like the lyrics for a really good song.. I'm gonna steal this now, thnx
      : )

    • @Elenrai
      @Elenrai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@modlio745 "little to desire"
      One. Word.
      Honesty.

  • @Justaguy5678
    @Justaguy5678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "This has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals." - Vikings

  • @Dominator046
    @Dominator046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    "Post down in the comments if you'd like to see a more specific video-"
    YES. ON ALL THINGS.

  • @110gotrek
    @110gotrek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    G E K O L O N I S E E R D

    • @110gotrek
      @110gotrek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Loved the video by the way c:

    • @robinroos2254
      @robinroos2254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Z E G M A K K E R

    • @silver_dem0n525
      @silver_dem0n525 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classic

    • @possemis
      @possemis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      its not a History with hilbert video without the G E K O L O N I S E E R D meme

    • @Frahamen
      @Frahamen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      N E E N

  • @MrHedning
    @MrHedning 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I heard another reason and that reason was revenge on the Christians when Charlemagne entered Saxony.
    He waged war against the Germanic Saxons in the northeast, forcing Christianity upon them where around 4,500 Saxons were executed in 782.

  • @tateisgod
    @tateisgod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    So to touch upon the hypothesis of trade implications regarding the Frankish, perhaps the raiding of Lindisfarne could be drawn from the fact that both the Saxons and the Frankish were Christian at this stage, and so were drawn together through that religion, as opposed to the pagan religion, and also were trading together so colluded to freeze the Danes out of trade, at which point the Danes decided to just take what they wanted? Possible?

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7:06 Obviously Icelandic names Njáll and Brján are Irish Niall and Brian, with somewhat shifted syllable structure.

  • @NolanJohnson423
    @NolanJohnson423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you History with Hilbert for the awesome content these videos are so exciting

  • @JamesAce
    @JamesAce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    loving it. just came back from being 1/2 months in north norway.. gotta love your timing

  • @iainb1577
    @iainb1577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see you back.

  • @berserkerstrommortsgreb3131
    @berserkerstrommortsgreb3131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Massacre of Verden. Retribution.

  • @mexicanshawarma5971
    @mexicanshawarma5971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    the viking age ended in the battle of Stamford bridge not the battle of Hastings

    • @frederikfoss4594
      @frederikfoss4594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep!

    • @donfelipe7510
      @donfelipe7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You could argue that the Normans were the culmination of the viking age. Christian, literate but still war like and expansionist. Really the viking age lasted until the end of Norman royal dynasties around Europe.The battle of Stamford Bridge may have broken Danish and Norwegian power however Hastings was not the end of anything but the beginning of a viking golden age.

    • @Buildbeautiful
      @Buildbeautiful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Of course the viking era did not end after the battle of stamford bridge what made you think that

    • @donfelipe7510
      @donfelipe7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@@Buildbeautiful
      I suppose it depends of what constitutes the "Viking Age." By 1066 raiding in longships, viking in the strictest sense, was more or less a thing of the past in Northern Europe. Towns and cities were more heavily fortified and armies much better organised and able to repel raiders. Also by this time Scandinavia had largely become Christian so attacks on monasteries and churches which were the hallmarks of the early "Viking Age" had ended.
      However that said the Normans raised not only men for small scale raids but whole armies, England wasn't raided in 1066 it was invaded and conquered. The "Viking Age" for me ends with the assimilation of various ethnic groups like Danes, Norse and Normans into the country and instead of seeing such people as foreign invaders with a strange religion and language they were just people to be ruled.

    • @sleepinggiant1484
      @sleepinggiant1484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Tony Trojak Norman's may have been decendants of Vikings but they adopted frankish or French customs, religion etc. They were fierce nights and not Viking raiders that pillaged ans plundered. Not quite the same.
      1066 and the end of the Anglo saxons rule. The Norman's influence is undeniable in both England and France.

  • @jackmarston2141
    @jackmarston2141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is probably my favorite source of viking history out there. I am a 29 year old with hardcore ADHD, but I love Viking history. Your way of teaching is extremely helpful.

  • @regular-joe
    @regular-joe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm like the guy who commented on another of your videos - I'm starting to sing loudly (and imaginatively - don't know the words!) every time you play the Dutch anthem. Good fun.

  • @gemino4910
    @gemino4910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    So you're telling me the viking age was the incel uprising?

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      When the exact opposite of feminism creates incels too. *insert sad pepe*

    • @salahgamal5516
      @salahgamal5516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin imbalance creates incels

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@salahgamal5516 i kno

    • @lovinglydull
      @lovinglydull 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Makes sense. For centuries beforehand, armies were made up of what is basically weaponized incels.

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lovinglydull Yeah, apparently merovingians did the same

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    What if the Virgin Islands remained Danish

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      They wouldn't be virgin for much longer?

    • @caolanfeely4317
      @caolanfeely4317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      History With Hilbert what if whilhelmus never existed

    • @boze77wolf
      @boze77wolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@caolanfeely4317 The anthem or the prince?

    • @caolanfeely4317
      @caolanfeely4317 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sinnermatic well I guess both

    • @boze77wolf
      @boze77wolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@caolanfeely4317 He was the figurehead of the revolt against the Spanish. Without the break away from Spanish control the Dutch golden age wouldn't have happend. The Netherlands wouldn't become the savehaven for Portugese jews who run from Spanish inquisition and held the seamaps to the east. The VOC would never existed. The Dutch colonies never seized. The more than 200 years that the Netherlands was the only western country who was allowed to trade with Japan would have never taken place.

  • @Leffe123
    @Leffe123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @paladin_83
    @paladin_83 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this period in history. Please, keep it going!

  • @Woeschhuesli
    @Woeschhuesli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have wondered about this for ages, thankyou. It‘s difficult to find out about pre-Viking Scandinavian history in a coherent manner, I find.

    • @lordcommander3224
      @lordcommander3224 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Romans basically said, "There exists lazy Germans way up north".

  • @Roikat
    @Roikat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Charlemagne supposedly made the landlubber mistake of destroying the Frisian fleet of 3000 ships around 780 after defeating the Frisians on land, which one can assume would have left a North Sea naval and merchant marine power vacuum.

  • @mattaffenit9898
    @mattaffenit9898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The reason I believe more strongly - look south. The Franks and Norse did _not_ get along. At all.

  • @jgr7487
    @jgr7487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was wondering how long it would take for Hilbert to make a reference to the Netherlands or the VOC. it took 8:51

  • @BListHistory
    @BListHistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up man :)

  • @sanderskovly7641
    @sanderskovly7641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We just had about this at university. We all got sad when we heard that Charlemagne sent an elephant to the danes, but it died in Netherlands on the way it. It would be so fking cool to have a viking-Hannibal saga ...
    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abul-Abbas
    And also, yeah I would love to see you do an episode on why increased population is a main reason for the viking expansion isn't a plausible one. Our professor also believed the two major factors were 1) too few women, 2) a desire for land, fame and wealth.

  • @jbussa
    @jbussa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you send your guests home so you can settle in for a History with Hilbert video. lol

  • @spacecat5517
    @spacecat5517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I'd be interested if you did a video on the scandalous topic!

  • @franklinarchambault5397
    @franklinarchambault5397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the way I heard it lack of land so the outcast and outlaws went a Viking and if not it sound like the best one to me

  • @hazzmati
    @hazzmati 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's funny cuz in the show Vikings they are talking as if there is nothing to the west of Scandinavia but myths. It makes no sense for the scandinavians not to know Britain they probably started trading with them long before the viking raids

    • @_robustus_
      @_robustus_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe their ships really sucked before Floki.

    • @grubbybum3614
      @grubbybum3614 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Hazz, I see you in Tyrannicon videos. He he he, huh...

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grubby bum hey man that’s cool. Haven’t watched or commented in a good while though. Tyr’s cool but I don’t like how he has put half his content behind a paywall. And he doesn’t do the throthgae voice like before anymore.

    • @grubbybum3614
      @grubbybum3614 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hazzmati yeah, he should put more focus on doing the old voice. He has a video everyday now though, including darksouos. I think the stuff behind pauwall was just extra content that wouldn't have been uploaded to TH-cam anyway, so I got no problem with that.

    • @user-mq5xt5jf4o
      @user-mq5xt5jf4o 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "they probably started trading with them long before the viking raids". Well more than that. The Jutes and the Angles that settled in England hundreds of years before were Danes, and the Saxons shared borders with the Danes. It really amazes me that it seems historians think that the Scandinavians had forgot how to sail to England.

  • @donfelipe7510
    @donfelipe7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think like most aspects of history the beginning of the "viking age" has many causes. Overpopulation, gender imbalance, technological shift in ship building and sense of religious persecution by a united Christendom against pagans are all valid points. I would suggest also that climate change had guiding hand in these events.
    Around the mid to late 9th century there were long periods of drought around the world. in Egypt the crops failed for ten years (c. 850AD) and essentially ended Egypt's previous role as the agricultural powerhouse of the Eastern Mediterranean. Also around this time the same climatic event forced Turkic steppe nomads from east of the Caspian sea to seek better pastures and brought them into conflict with the Armenians, Byzantines and the Arab Caliphates.
    I believe a general warming climate while destabilizing and disastrous for the areas further south may have had the opposite effect further north like in what is now France, England and Scandinavia, keeping the ice and snows away for more of the year and allowing better and more diverse harvests. It has been documented that grapes for wine production were able to be grown in Sweden while Western Europe generally began to surpasse the Eastern Mediterranean as the most wealthy and influential lands in Christendom. A more stable prosperous economy would also allow for expansion such as the Frankish conquest of the Saxons which may have sparked Danish aggression. The consequences of climate change on migration and the fortunes of nations are far reaching indeed.
    I'm aware that my dates for the drought in Egypt don't correspond to the beginning of Viking raiding however I think climate change takes time and may have been in the process of changing for decades or even centuries before. I would welcome peoples thoughts, I'm not well read on these things although I am aware these theories are out there. The TH-cam channel History Time has some interesting in depth videos on these subjects.

    • @emsnewssupkis6453
      @emsnewssupkis6453 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it was warming up rapidly to the Medieval Warm Age. Made travel easy.

    • @rogermarlin3758
      @rogermarlin3758 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes climate change and over population is what mainly did it.

    • @magnusorn7313
      @magnusorn7313 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the medieval warm period was regional to the Atlantic just as the roman warm period was which enabled the roman empire to flourish, im sure it may have affected other places as well to a degree and completely different things could have been taking affect as well but globally temperatures would have changed slightly if at all

    • @emsnewssupkis6453
      @emsnewssupkis6453 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@magnusorn7313 HAHAHA. Right. Yup. HAHAHA. Any and all excuses to pretend we have no global climate...wait! Ahem.

    • @emsnewssupkis6453
      @emsnewssupkis6453 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh oh, the reply was parked in the wrong place, Magnus Orn. Sorry about this. Sometimes happens on You Tube comments.

  • @katienewell7350
    @katienewell7350 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Hilbert! I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of that Max Adams quote - you said it was from a talk he gave, do you know which one? It sounds like it'd be super useful for my dissertation!

  • @jimmielindstrand9773
    @jimmielindstrand9773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could you maybe do a video on the Vendel period?

  • @christophedel2642
    @christophedel2642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So interesting greetings from Normandy

  • @8bitgubben
    @8bitgubben 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    please make the video about the parallels between the viking age and today, would be very interesting

  • @danoization
    @danoization 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Charlemagne killing pagans had nothing to do with it?

  • @hypercomms2001
    @hypercomms2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought the Viking Age started was because of Kirk Douglas... !!

  • @Giamesh
    @Giamesh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Walrus Ivory trade was very important. As the Umayyad caliphate took control over Spain in the early 700s, the traditional sources and trade routes for ivory was blocked for the Europeans. Scandinavians had access to walrus ivory and traveled further and further to the North and West to hunt the walrus. And discovered new land. Then they traveled South and East to sell it. Along the same routes the raiding also started.

  • @RestlessRebel
    @RestlessRebel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am having flashbacks of Orkney

  • @carolusrex5305
    @carolusrex5305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes please do one on the mass shooting hypothesis. It sounds very interesting. 👍🏻

  • @ThaliaVitalis
    @ThaliaVitalis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super interesting to hear the different theories and what you think of them! Pls more about the Vikings, so fascinating!
    WILHELMUS....... 🇳🇱

    • @jamesharris6893
      @jamesharris6893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      curious-- you talked a lot about the emergence of the vikings ships. but in many ways, the Angles, Saxons and Juts seem to be "very early vikings,' granted that except for the Juts, these peoples came from north Germania or what became the Netherlands and Friesland,for the most part. but these people also crossed the north sea or the channel to get to Britain. some literature on Saxon boats suggests a construction not very different from viking craft.
      I'd appreciate some more learned commentary on this. what was the significant difference, if any between viking and Saxon watercraft??

    • @Ghost-vi8qm
      @Ghost-vi8qm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thalia are you Dutch?

  • @matthewread7220
    @matthewread7220 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do that video on the gun stuff, love your chanel mate.

  • @fredklier
    @fredklier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do the video of the current Era end the parallels with the viking age I really like your take on the subject.

  • @lmclm1755
    @lmclm1755 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the earlier raids in Paignton in Devon and in Dorset c.780 or thereabouts?

  • @styrbjornulfhamr9404
    @styrbjornulfhamr9404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sail wasn’t a reason - Angles & Jutes came from modern Denmark on ships without sails. The tipping point was the retaliatory strike on English monastaries because the monastaries provided the source of many monks & priests in the expanding ‘crusades’ of Charlemagne against the pagan Saxons and Frisians, who were allies & trading partners with the Danes. The Danes were not strong enough to attack Charlemagne, so they retaliated by attacking the monastaries. This horrified the Carolingians who would sometime pay ransoms for captured monks & priests as well as buy back bibles & relics stolen by the Vikings. This stopped the forced conversion of pagans, but word quickly spread that there was opportunities to be exploited abroad and the raids expanded, eventually transforming into colonization. There were many factors that came together and made the Viking age what it was, but the casus belli that sparked it all was Charlemagne who massacred pagan Saxons who would not convert to Christianity. You can research the Massacre of Verden when 4,500 Saxons were massacred. It is also interesting to note the many writings of English monks who lamented the fury of the Northmen as a punishment from God. These monks understood the retalitory nature of the early raids, and knew about the massacred pagans. Paybacks a bitch.

  • @joshuag4624
    @joshuag4624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video. What should have also been mentioned is the Indo European long standing tradition of the Mannerbund, in which young men are cast out to raid. In that sense the Viking age was merely a continuation of an ancient practice. Also, there’s no consensus on whether the earlie Anglo-Saxon invaders had sails on their boats, with no archeological evidence for it. Any sailer would know that having a sail isn’t the same as sailing. Just as the Roman, rowing there ships would have been standard practice with the Roman only using their sail to help them when the wind is favourable as a supplement to rowing. It could have well been the case that adding a sail onto the traditional north Western European Clinker boat added trading, which as you say was prevelant between the North Sea peoples, and now more frequent long distant raids to the ability for Danes and Norsemen to act out the tribal tradition of the Mannerbund

    • @zackflora6165
      @zackflora6165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would make sense as the VA started as an Eastern push toward Novgorod and became known as "rowers"

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are some very interesting thoeries

  • @Vektordeformacio
    @Vektordeformacio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice PowerPoint, Hilbert

  • @ewweg
    @ewweg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A norwegian king visited north jutland and heard of the teutons success in the south, do to uniting the 3 tribes in north jutland.
    And so he stated uniting all the tribes in scandinavia to stop all the infighting for resources and instead fight people far away for resources.
    He started by uniting everyone under the danes (~500 AD) since warry little was left of the teutons and svir after fighting the roman empire, and norway was too split.
    Only the remains of the svirs refused uniting under the danes, and wanted to go their own way, but agreed to stop the infighting.
    This is where they started implementing detachable sails for extremely far seatravels.
    People seems to forget or doesn't know that Denmark was the trading centerpoint between north/east and west europe since 40.000 BC,
    and had a lot of tradingrouts to the middle east since 2000 BC.
    Even the germanic tribes originated in scandinavia around 500 BC, and that migration-age was the predecessor of the viking age, vikings just used better boats and was closer related/connected.

  • @VoiceInTheCyberness
    @VoiceInTheCyberness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is hard to believe that the environment could allow a population explosion but the Avars and possibly other tribes from The East were looking for a home, this to me seems more plausible

  • @jesperburns
    @jesperburns 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how you cycle through accents.

  • @masonlemons6389
    @masonlemons6389 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, is it old news that this is the metatron?

  • @SuperFunkmachine
    @SuperFunkmachine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The ship question is bit false as earlier ships could sail around the coast of germany, even the bronze aged Dover Bronze Age Boat could of done that with ease.

    • @jamesharris6893
      @jamesharris6893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even early Celtic coracles got around pretty well, even cross channel, etc.

    • @mpgnz73
      @mpgnz73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. It's been stated that the Jutes likely sailed along the Frisian islands which they used as a launching pad into Kent and the Isle of Wight. There's no reason the Vikings couldn't do the same. The emergence of a ship capable of sailing directly to England is a red herring.

  • @jasonknox9596
    @jasonknox9596 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! I can't find the link for the publication
    Could somebody help me out? I'm planning to write my dissertation about the Viking age it would be really important
    Many thanks

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never realised trade could have been a case for this to start

  • @Brembelia
    @Brembelia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do both videos: the over population, and any parallels between the Viking Age and today's male crisis. More videos is always the better idea. Thanks!

  • @somtimesieat2411
    @somtimesieat2411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:00 when the Vikings sailed across the sea, comets crossed the skies that night, must have known something wasn't right

  • @marksharpe5384
    @marksharpe5384 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes to the idea of that video.

  • @Embracehistoria
    @Embracehistoria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eric Bloodaxe is my favourite Viking.

  • @adamroodog1718
    @adamroodog1718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Anglo-Saxons complaining about the danish. Hahaha

    • @fastertove
      @fastertove 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A major problem with the EU is the presence of 4 different velfare models within it's borders: Continental (Bismarckian), Anglo-Saxon, Nordic and Mediterranean... But the close trading relationsship is great

    • @fastertove
      @fastertove 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @peace leader Sure, but countries in Europe have a very different history. What economy and welfare model to choose? - how to choose the politicians? - what language?... What culture do you think should rule them all? :-) ... IMO, what we probably need more than central European government is a new and more modern version of UN.

    • @user-mq5xt5jf4o
      @user-mq5xt5jf4o 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @peace leader Your vision is definitely not my vision, I find it totally repulsive. I want my near democracy. Do YOU allow your next door neighbour to rule over your household.

    • @JohnMacbeth
      @JohnMacbeth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @peace leader No fucking thank you.

  • @historicalminds6812
    @historicalminds6812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video Hilbert, do you think you would be interested in doing one about the Indo-European Expansion? Also didn’t climatic factors play a role in the origins of the Viking age, such as the Medieval Warm Period?

    • @raphmaster23
      @raphmaster23 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's speculation that the Charlemagne Saxon slaughter started the viking age.

  • @JohnnyLodge2
    @JohnnyLodge2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If the north germans could sail to england why wouldn't the Danes be able too?

  • @lievenpetersen
    @lievenpetersen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Might as well call your channel "Comparing history to the Netherlands. With Hilbert"

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Having more men than women is never a good idea. It causes tension and increases competition

    • @formgrya6927
      @formgrya6927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IDK man that sounds like a capitalist's wet dream.

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@formgrya6927 haha but no

    • @apropercuppa8612
      @apropercuppa8612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Micahistory 2 But having more women means more nagging and headaches. We’re fucked either way.

    • @shawnrileywest2826
      @shawnrileywest2826 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

    • @isladurrant2015
      @isladurrant2015 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are societies that manage ... normally two brothers/one woman in isolated mountainous countries.

  • @blacktemplar9499
    @blacktemplar9499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It begun when I went on a holiday to England

  • @erikgranqvist3680
    @erikgranqvist3680 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most likley is that the raids started due to a number of reasons that converged into a few important points of decission.

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you going to do a simlar video about the start of some of the germans from Sweden (goths, vandals, others) Denmark (cimbri, tutones) into the south?
    - oh, yes on the other video, btw.
    Q: btw, what is the address of that reading you mentioned? I don't see it.

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:43 So, Franks made a probable trade sanction against Danes, and then a near Apocalypse of Vikings started for Frankland and England?

  • @NefariousKoel
    @NefariousKoel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dowries had a deeper basis than just being a payment to the husband by the father/family. There was a more basic human nature which caused it.
    Historically, men were expected to take care of women in nearly all ways. The father at first. Then her husband once that duty was passed to him.
    Obviously male children were more physically fit for the hard labor, hunting, and other such productive activities so heavily relied upon at the time. The males were expected to leave the household, after entering adulthood, and do so to support themselves. Whereas females would often stay at home, expected to be taken care of by the father indefinitely - until they found, or were arranged, a husband. It's no wonder the dowry became a custom in so many cultures as their parents often wanted to transfer that caretaking burden on someone else (a husband) ASAP.

    • @grubbybum3614
      @grubbybum3614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see someone's read 'The Human Zoo'...

    • @NefariousKoel
      @NefariousKoel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@grubbybum3614 - Actually, I haven't read 'The Human Zoo'. Just realized, for awhile, that women were naturally given extra protection & care by the men. Ingrained in human nature. Dowries were obviously just one evolved societal facet of that. One of many.
      Unfortunately, those natural tendencies have been used, in modern society, to vilify men as wicked oppressors in some circles. When their natural instinct was usually to protect.

  • @thelucas1146
    @thelucas1146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love that in nearly every video you play my national anthem 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱

    • @NashTheGreat
      @NashTheGreat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not your's, but your people's.

  • @666Maeglin
    @666Maeglin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Hilbert, where can I find a little more information about the nordic style frisian flag. As in Fries yn Denemarken sou ik graach wat mear witte wolle oer dy fryske flagge. En is dy flagge ek te keap?

  • @pintAdark
    @pintAdark 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    #HistoryWithHilbert Excellent thought provoking video Hilbert. Please make the video comparing the modern US (Maybe expand to Western?) clash of values between the sexes and the Viking Age clash.

  • @user-hx1nr9ru1p
    @user-hx1nr9ru1p 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be very interested in that video.

  • @jacobobrien4267
    @jacobobrien4267 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the meme page called ?

  • @_robustus_
    @_robustus_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hilbert, whats up with that rune stone you’re using as a subliminal message?

  • @hglundahl
    @hglundahl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:12 I know one of my friends is into shooters being InCels.

    • @hglundahl
      @hglundahl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      For my part, I think practical school compulsion, both via InCel-dom and otherwise by imposing misery (notably psychiatric such) contributed to shootings.

  • @jonaseliasson5502
    @jonaseliasson5502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Hilbert, you are right about almost everything but missing one thing. You are right about the better sails for the ships, but there was also the keel. A far more important feature. The deeper and stiffer keels of the eighth century not only make the ships stronger, but meant better navigation possibilities in adverse winds. That is the prevailing west wind in the North Sea. The problem was to get to England. Go back was OK.

  • @MuddieRain
    @MuddieRain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just case you were wondering. 8:52

  • @ShermerIllinois
    @ShermerIllinois 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We Vikings Are Happy Vikings

  • @chariotrider9716
    @chariotrider9716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Did he put the meme page in the description? I don't see it.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're right I forgot but updated now. Here it is:
      facebook.com/theblacksteedofWidukind/

  • @5amH45lam
    @5amH45lam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'd be interested to hear the over-population story, as it's something I wasn't familiar with. Great videos, BTW. Thanks for the upload. 👍

  • @dieallgemeinheit2247
    @dieallgemeinheit2247 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just out of curiosity - I've read that in the Germanic cultures there was the practice of "Muntgelt" - where the husband to be pay a price to free (The current German word "freien" still stems from that) his future wife from the "Vormundschaft" of her father. I know that this practice remained intact for a long time in northern Germany and we learned that this was changed over time after christianization. Could you, maybe, check these practices? Pretty please :)

  • @dracovagari6228
    @dracovagari6228 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the flag you use for frisia never seen it befor

    • @wes3898
      @wes3898 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Josh McDougall True flag of Frisia

  • @tmikesecrist3
    @tmikesecrist3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hilbert I think i would like to hear about posable coraltions with gun violice you cant not solve a problem with out first accrueatly iding the porblem

  • @horisontial
    @horisontial 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Hilbert. I would love to see that video on why the overpopulation theory is problematic in Scandinavia. Many tribes and peoples have to my knowledge lived on the Danish isles and Jutland in the last few millennia and have migrated due to competition from other tribes, such as the Danes. I thought the most supported theory was that the younger sons and bannermen (for a lack of a better word) of the nobility sought west because of lack of new land to expand into and lack of possibility at home.

  • @AdamNoEve
    @AdamNoEve 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't worry about that future video comparing Viking raiders to today's InCels, I'll cover it. ;)

  • @yaroon2850
    @yaroon2850 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hoi Hilbert,
    At 13:45 in your video you cite Alcuin of York's letter as if he was referring to "Scandinavians", whereas the text on screen just says "pagans". Was the term "Scandinavia" even used in 793? Some historian once said that "Scandinavia" begins in Harlingen (Friesland, NL), at the statue of the stone man (Stenen Man). In that context, Scandinavian / pagan hairstyles may include Frisian hairstyles.
    Being a Frisian yourself, you know very well that the Frisians were the coastal, seafaring cousins of the Jutes, Angles and Saxons. Frisian traders crossed the North Sea (a.k.a. Mare Frisicum) long before the viking age. Probably, Frisian ships were used in the Anglo-Saxon migration, but Frisians didn't settle in Britain in large numbers themselves. (they sailed right back home to heit and mem)
    Frisians were stubbornly pagan, just like the people that later became known as Vikings. Paganism caused conflict with the stubbornly Catholic Franks. Many male pagan Frisians may have fled North, which may be one explanation for the imbalance of the sexes.
    So... If Alcuin was complaining about Scandinavian / pagan hairstyles, he could as well have been referring to the hairstyles of Frisian traders.

  • @tonymultani
    @tonymultani 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was Floki who built the long ships for the Vikings

  • @lluvik2450
    @lluvik2450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting to see how sophisticated their society actually was. I always had this idea that they were scavengers and whatnot. I knew they weren't but that is still the way i pictured them. Turns out they actually had quite an established society

  • @michaelross4735
    @michaelross4735 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The battle of Largs( 1263 ) all but crushed any lingering Viking power in Scotland for good

  • @sweetliberteatv
    @sweetliberteatv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to hear your thoughts on men in the modern day.

  • @VelMa-opinion
    @VelMa-opinion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So I've developed this fiendish obsession with history, and I've given lots of thought in addition to some serious study of known factual evidence.
    It seems to me, that the "Viking age" was in part started by these two things: a) instead of choosing chieftains by valour in combat (and personal combat) Scandinavians had picked up the idea of inheritance, of both chieftains and land rights; b) because the inheritance fell on the eldest son, younger sons were forced to find their own fortunes.
    There's clear suggestion that the Viking raiders were wealthy to begin with (weapons of iron, boats), and trained, so they thought rather than be subject to their own family, they'd take a risk. Add this to what you suggest, combined with the idea that they didn't hit upon Lindisfarne upon having crossed the North Sea, but were likely sons of people who had much more convenient access to British coast.

  • @jessedrawingstuff1350
    @jessedrawingstuff1350 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That thing you said at the end. Do that

  • @Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
    @Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the Danes raided Friesland long before Lindisfarne. And before that, the Wikings raided eachother.

    • @SynValorum1
      @SynValorum1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That explains the
      DUTCH!!!

  • @OpossumSupremacist
    @OpossumSupremacist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As an American, I'd be intrested in hearing your take on the issues we are having now. I think it would be nice to hear a European opinion that isn't just "just ban all weapons" or just restrict civil rights even more.

    • @SynValorum1
      @SynValorum1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just go to the forest man, it'll all be okay from there.

    • @magnusorn7313
      @magnusorn7313 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i mean regulations would be a nice start, i mean technically you can still get a gun without a permit in most states and you dont have to carry amo separately, thats a bit fucked

    • @Ozzianman
      @Ozzianman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 years late, but still gonna reply.
      Something most Americans do not seem to realize is that they have a illusion of a choice in politics. The Democrats and the Republicans are two sides of the same coin. The parties have for the most part, the same policies with a few exceptions here and there. While other parties do exist, the power and support the two main parties wield is so immense, the independent parties might as well not exist.
      The American political system, to me, seems like it has been constructed to (or manipulated to) split the people. Coalition government? Unheard of. Cooperation between the parties? Blasphemy! The us against them mentality which is permeating the US political environment and seemingly civilian life is depressing to me.
      To be fair, rural and urban US are two very different worlds with different needs, so I understand that they may differ a lot in their point of views, but the hate man... The casual, everyday animosity between democrats and republicans is shocking to me, both parties are just as guilty in encouraging this hate, guilty of this political hooliganism/tribalism/whateverismfitshereism. Little attempt at understanding where someone is coming from with their point of view.
      I wish there were more outsiders who could understand the Norwegian language, thus being able to follow Norwegian politics and share their point of view. Having an foreigners perspective is nice.
      With that, I want to share a bit about Norwegian politics.
      All in all, Norwegian politics is in a healthy state. Political propaganda are nowhere close to being as intense as it is in the US, and politicians across the political spectrum are friendly to each other, or at least polite. Mostly because they may shop in the same places, train at the same gym, share the same route to work etc... Politicians in general, even the career politicians, are normal people.
      Most of us do not care about who voted for what as long as we use our vote. At least in my social circle, not using your vote is looked upon as it mean you do not care about the society you live in. Voting blank is completely fair as it simply means you have deemed no party represents your views well enough, or you forgot about the election, realized it's the last voting day as you notice there is an oddly long queue in the otherwise empty community centre and could not decide what party to vote for (I have previously been in that situation...).
      In the current ongoing election, we have 9 major parties and around 10 minor parties. With this many parties, coalition governments are the norm.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the Vikings and Leif Erikson Day, hinga dinga durgen

  • @thomasthomas1359
    @thomasthomas1359 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah make that overpop vid plz

  • @noahtstapp
    @noahtstapp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like to think the reason was fighting the same people over and over, Knowing that they have no valuables and trying to sail elsewhere

  • @pew-pew2224
    @pew-pew2224 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is something I think that people tend to miss and that is the fact that Scandinavia at this time seems to have a very militarized society from the start. It seems that Scandinavians during the Roman empire and maybe later usually made a lot of money being axillary troops/mercenaries for others. This combining with the "weak kings" argument(that seems to be that Europe was in a period of relative peace so it spent less of defenses then previously) would mean that you had a lot of people getting rich by being mercenaries. This would mean that you had societies with well trained armed men that hold power who no longer could find any income. So raiding would solve this problem and could be another driving force for the viking age.