Wow I would've never bothered to look that up until I saw this comment . How could you be so wrong like that 😂 he never even lived in Cleveland for a little bit prior to the cavs let alone be born there 😂
Should've waited till after David Griffin addressed this on The Jump to find out the reason it was miserable is because of the clickbait media like you who spin things, thanks for proving his point
I dont mind those contracts but Lebron was not commited himself. Cant build around a guy who is not gonna be there. Also the never had any develoment. It was always about get me somebody else.
x Florio Not sure what you mean by competitive. They were not beating that Warriors team with Durant. Then when Kyrie left, him and Love as the 2 main players not beating Warriors.
@x Florio Tbh that 2016 team was stacked with talent. Not all star talent but role players, stars etc. Perfect balance. They were a better team, the Cavs won because they got phisical and at the and of the day their two best players were better than Steph and Klay at crunch time. You add KD to that an LeBron should make that much of a difference? No one in the history can make that much of a difference not even Mike. Objective people, even me a Bron fan, didnt think they could win. Although they were competitive.
KreyzAim loaded? Lmao they gave up practically the entire bench for one player that being kd. At the end of the day it’s still Steph vs kyrie, bron vs kd, dray vs love, so stop acting like it was unfair. Bron got exposed by kd and got gentleman swept with 2 other all stars
Every winning culture i have been a part of, especially in America...it was not fun, there was tight guidelines and uncomfortable situations, however in the end it was worth it when the goal was worth it
Exactly! It suppose to be hard, realistically you supposed to be depressed and miserable! It is called winning at the highest level in the world! Otherwise everybody would do it, but only a few can.
Seriously. Magic wasn't exactly circumspect about why he left. Truth be told, I suspect it was more because LaVar Ball told people that he wasn't really in charge and his ego couldn't handle it whether it was true or not. Hint: This is why no team should ever touch Lonzo despite him being a good kid.
This is Gold, so David Grif was On The Jump clarrifying the article being spun around by the writer and by the media, and Doug was caught right in the middle of it. This is exactly what he was pointing out. Also, Doug is blaming LBJ for not being blamed enough. LOL. Just a few days ago, LBJ was being crucified for joining the lay up lines of his son's AAU game, and now this. its NBA off season but its an open season for LBJ, everyone is taking their shots at him. LOL
People are jealous of him...what do you expect of a guy who only played in college and his biggest success was playing in Summer League.....of course he's going to hate without any evidence
One of the rare The Herd videos that has Dislikes > Likes. Says it all how whack Gottlieb is. It's unbelievable how the media in the US love to hate on LeBron. Even "Taco Tuesday" ? Come on!!
@@ressestevenson7309 go be average and happy in new Orleans Im Sure they'll have a happy environment finishing 10th in the west🤣🤣 good luck david Griffin
“Ether” is in reference to the classic Nas diss track, in which Nas went vicious on Jay Z. So Lebron was alluding to “ going hard” and not pulling punches, in regards to the league or his perceived enemies.
Fun doesn’t win rings, hard work does and I’m not even a lebron fan but sorry truth is truth no matter how hard you’re trying to twist it, a disappointing Doug day
These people are ungrateful he brings championships he needs to be appreciated more if Lebron didn’t come back Cleveland wouldn’t of dreamed about having a championship
@@kieran773ful if kyrie wasn't going off in the 4th quarters of game 5, 6, and 7 when lebum couldn't buy a shot or free throw they wouldn't have won the champion
It is so true. Watching LeBron play basketball is great, it is fun. Listening to LeBron and his antics is annoying. Glad I only have to watch him and not work with him.
- Trying to trade Kyrie for Bledsoe and PG. - Getting coach Blatt fired. - Trading his entire team 2 times in the same season. - Going to a Finals press conference with a fake cast on his hand.
1st of all Doug. People hated Jordan, even his teamates. Same for Kobe. They are players that demand alot. Second of all Magic quit because of back stabbing Rob Pelinka. Not Lebron. No Lebron isnt easy to deal with. And he shouldnt be.
KD and David griffin said the same thing. It's the MEDIA's obsession with lebron that makes it a toxic enviroment not lebron himself. Yet the media twist it to they are saying lebron is toxic.
LeBron is too. Look what he said "inorganic and unsustainable", trades happening left and right because LeBron was looking for any quick fix to win. Griffin wanted to create a team and stick with it and let it build chemistry.
im sure pat Riley and Phil And all these guys are having fun now.. lets see whats pat been doing in regards to winning anything lately or even making it in and past the first round of the play offs
Very few highly successful people are fun to work with - Michael Jordan, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates... Expectations are high and you do it their way or the highway.
Lebron was always a diva only difference now people speaking out about it. Ask Crawford when he dunked on Lebron in the summer and Lebron confiscated the tape. Props to Griffin!!
I’m just coming on here to repeat that Doug’s takes are trash. Just yesterday Dave Griffin clarified his points. That he and Lebron James are good friends and that working with him the person was great. What Griffin didnt like was the championship or bust expectations and the media coverage of Lebron, which to KDs point IS toxic. I love how Doug ran with that when KD said it, but now HE is doing it himself, during the off-season, where the only reason this dude is even on here is because Colin is on vacation!
The League has caught up two years ago with the Lebron James system. I’m telling y’all, this upcoming season is going to be a disaster. AD is going learn the hard way.
ManOf1005Holds ArmBar Is predicting they miss the playoffs. Nuggets, Rockets, Clippers, Jazz, Warriors, Blazers, Spurs are all locks to make it. I personally think the Kings will be better than the Lakers. De’aaron Fox is a superstar in the making.
Superduper A huh? I think he was “blaming” LeBron as a way of pointing out all the different instances that he wasn’t blamed when he should’ve been to a degree at least.
We have always known this about him. He's a glory hound. Always has to be the center of attention. Look at what he does to players being interviewed. Acting like a clown at his boys game. The ridiculous taco Tuesday thing. The BS cast after losing. Drinking wine at games. Finally someone called him out. Long overdue.
am watching Carmalo interview on First Take and it just done on me that there is a power play happening in the NBA to take the power back from the play ers. Hence, why people are attempting to write a false narrative on Lebron not being the best player in the game; as well as, David Griffin stating he w as "miserable" working with LBJ. Not to mention players like Kryie and Durant (haters / snakes) takes shot at LBJ. Additionally, the treatment of Carm elo, CP3 trade and Wayne retirement. All power players that collaborative to usher in a new era of player impowerment. Not to mention, they publicly a cclaimed that the NBA is a players league - controlled by players not owners.
@K Will I'm not like others who say that his finals record is a reflection of his on court performance. I feel that personnel and contract decisions he forced on teams put him as a player behind the 8 ball a couple of times.
@@chrisallen6362 This is not an exhaustive list. But; Literally everything Doug talks about in this video. The decision. After his first game not registering an assist while he was in nearly a decade back when he was in Miami he threw his teammates under the bus saying "You've got to hit shots before can get an assist." He single handedly drove Kyrie Irving out of town. He's still putting on this act like he somehow doesn't have any help when he has and has had more help than Jordan, Kobe, or any other super star in NBA history could ever have dreamed over. He's clashed with every coach he's had since Mike Brown the first time around in Cleveland and gotten David Blatt, Tyron Lue, Luke Walton, all fired, he's gotten Mike Brown fired twice and nearly got Erik Spolstra fired.
Rob Coe I'm sorry but half of the things you said are so far from the truth. You and many other haters just always try to crucify him. It's depressing and it seems like people will never get around to congratulating him on his success or career. But instead ppl spit lies. It's just depressing.
@@davidfarmani8511 No, you're just one of the sycophants that Doug was talking about in this video. As I said above. He's a great player. But he's also the king of drama. And I will even rephrase. He's the king of self manufactured, passive agressive drama.
LeBron has never had any intention of letting a team build a championship contender that could be sustained for years by getting young talent and growing with that talent. There's a reason why every team he has left went into the tank. Not because the lose of him was too great to overcome, but because each team mortgages their future for the short term. Bad contracts, trading draft picks, trading young players away. That by the time he thinks it's time to bail, the team is left with nothing because he forced them to spend and trade it all away for the short term. The same exact thing is going to happen to the Lakers. They'll be good for the next couple years until LeBron retires, but then they'll have nothing because they traded away everything and signed bad contracts just to make LeBron happy. The Lakers will be a dumpster fire after he leaves as was all the other teams he's left.
A lie doesn't become the truth just because enough people repeat it. Working with championship calibre players will never be fun if you don't have that same pedigree... whether you're a player or an executive.
b7major I mean everyone that has said this about Lebron can’t be wrong. If multiple people from multiple stages in his career say the same thing, there has to be something to it
You definitely missed the point. When Lebron joins a team your job actually becomes a job. I think Davis Griffin would be the first person to tell you his job is super easy but adding Lebron adds pressure you’ve never had to deal with.
@@holocade4908 Nah, it was confirmed. I didn't hear him take one word out of his quotes back. He wasn't misquoted. How can "Lebron doesn't take blame" be misconstrued?
You had me until you said don't hop in to lay up lines with your son, that must have been such an amazing experience for those kids! That was probably an amazing experience for the kids on the other team as along with everybody in the building. I'm not hopping in a layup line with my kid but I'd be stoked if LeBron James hopped in a layup line with my kid, how exciting for my kid!
Dwade got two rings when he played with LeBron, guess he can stand the heat in the kitchen. Man up!!! Man you say that stuff on your book tour where you are getting paid. He didn't get paid and destroyed himself for free. Your boss may not be fun, but you still go to work and they still lead your organization. If you want a friend, get a dog!!
I personally think Gottlieb nailed it here! He’s not hating on anything, just speaking the truth! If you were to move a lot of the great NBA players to this era, you might get a lot of the same kind of thing. Players run the league now....
LeBron is 100% about winning first and foremost. My take is a lot of these bad-mouthing fellas are maybe 60% winning and 40% fun. So they were stressed because held accountable. And then sour grapes afterwards. You didn't mention Kyrie's Celtic realization how much direction LeBron gave. And that's why you're just another glib sports jock and not a true analyst.
@@MakingMovesMajor if you don't see how league is helping James become fake goat and how some games and moves/trades are rigged in general then you are just delusional and there is no point to discuss.
I don't think Doug watches sports media very much because... You know that network you're currently on, Fox? They kinda have the 3 biggest LeBron James haters on TV bringing multiple bad takes weekly with Skip Bayless, Jason Whitlock and Rob Parker. Dude can't even donate to charity without getting hated on these days.
Please get your fax straight Dougie, Griff is not from Ohio! And Magic never said that LeBron had anything to do with him not having fun. Doug, did LeBron refuse to sign your son's t-shirt or something?
Kobe n MJ literally bullied teammates at times even punch em that was seen as winning mindset, mamba mentality. Lebron asks for as much as any star before him he toxic get outta here, Griffin...
Tk Hannibal you’re leaving a lot of things out. It’s the over bearing shadow of klutch sports rich Paul and lebron seemingly being in charge. It’s the possibility of being traded throughout the season because lebron needs another star. It’s the fear of your coach being fired because he doesn’t get along with lebron. It’s his passive aggressiveness in person and social media. Every star has their toxic issues, I’m not denying it but lebron carries that toxicity to every team he goes to.
MJ bullied players to the point where he broke them and their career ended. These guys are pure alpha dogs who have been lazer focused on greatness since high school and see weakness as pathetic and revolting like a bad smell. If you can't handle that. If you see that as a negative then go play for a loser, get your cheques and whine about what might have been when it's all over.
incipidsigninsetup once again you’re missing the point. Michael and Kobe’s era was strictly about basketball no politics or anything involved. In today’s era with social media business and politics that level of toxicity is amplified to heights never before seen in past players. To say that lebron doesn’t bring toxicity is just absurd. And yes this can be avoided. Look at every other superstar in this league.
@@butterNpants yeah look at them they are not winners lebron has one 3 of the last 10 chips warrriors has won 3 of the last 10 santonio has one 2 of the last 10 toronto 1 and dallas 1 so who are allthese successful champions oh lebron and the warriors take the narrative and stick it
What are your thoughts on David Griffin’s comments?
The Herd with Colin Cowherd mehh
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Nothing new. He pretty said what I say and I've never been around David Griffin, all he did was confirm it.
My thoughts are that David Gottlieb should have kept his mouth shut until someone got the full story from David Griffin directly!!!
Colin would of drop a great divorce analogy if he wasn’t off today
"Its like a divorce. You agree to go your seperate ways and are happy for each other until you get bitter that your ex found a new girlfriend."
Colin thinks hes far wiser than he is with his elementary analogies
Have
lol yup
No Doug David Griffin isn't from Cleveland he was born and raised in Phoenix Arizona and went to high school and college in Arizona. #FactCheck
let me segue into this... we're at the mogul stage!
This guy is trash... Hate when Colin takes a day off 😒
Wow I would've never bothered to look that up until I saw this comment . How could you be so wrong like that 😂 he never even lived in Cleveland for a little bit prior to the cavs let alone be born there 😂
Gottlieb reading that tweet was hilarious then he said the man came to work with a goblet of wine lol
Should've waited till after David Griffin addressed this on The Jump to find out the reason it was miserable is because of the clickbait media like you who spin things, thanks for proving his point
Griffin is backpedaling faster than AC Slater earlier in the week
7:23 Gottlieb starts spouting some truths. Those TT & JR contracts were meant to prop up Rich Paul as an agent.
I dont mind those contracts but Lebron was not commited himself. Cant build around a guy who is not gonna be there. Also the never had any develoment. It was always about get me somebody else.
Go ahead and ask David Griffin how it was like working for Dan Gilbert in Cleveland. In that you will get the answer you’re looking for
Exactly! No one has mentioned Dan Gilbert once.
@@mjlover2334 Oh wow! I didn't know Dan Gilbert was the the owner of the Cavs, Heat, and Lakers!! Learn something new everyday...
Well why do we think Gilbetts name aint mentioned? Has Gilbert been mentioned by other players? Nope
In 2016 the Cavs won by the skin on their teeth and you expect that team to beat the overloaded Warriors including Kevin Durant? Your logic is whack
x Florio Not sure what you mean by competitive. They were not beating that Warriors team with Durant. Then when Kyrie left, him and Love as the 2 main players not beating Warriors.
@x Florio I'm from Akron Ohio. There is nobody who thought the cavs could best the warriors with kd.
@x Florio Tbh that 2016 team was stacked with talent. Not all star talent but role players, stars etc. Perfect balance. They were a better team, the Cavs won because they got phisical and at the and of the day their two best players were better than Steph and Klay at crunch time. You add KD to that an LeBron should make that much of a difference? No one in the history can make that much of a difference not even Mike. Objective people, even me a Bron fan, didnt think they could win. Although they were competitive.
@x Florio lol the warriors lost because of Curry in game 7. He play bad and Draymond step up in the game
KreyzAim loaded? Lmao they gave up practically the entire bench for one player that being kd. At the end of the day it’s still Steph vs kyrie, bron vs kd, dray vs love, so stop acting like it was unfair. Bron got exposed by kd and got gentleman swept with 2 other all stars
Nick Wright is somewhere having a fit.
😂😂
😂😂😂
His face as soon as this video started said everything anyone needs to know about him. He ENJOYS this
Fun? What are y'all 10? 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Jeffery Bigsby right... is business. I’m sure he’d rather be getting all the credit for the cavs before or after bron
Context
This is ridiculous. Anyone who thinks Cleveland had chance against the Warriors is lying to themselves.
Stop with the excuses.they had a chance to beat the warriors in ot,2018 you remember that no excuses.
@@ressestevenson7309 one game? Okay sure winning the series, no chance.
Now magic quitting is on lebron too! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes
Maybe not, but it didn't make him stay
Did this guys just blame LeBron for magic leaving? Lol
Every winning culture i have been a part of, especially in America...it was not fun, there was tight guidelines and uncomfortable situations, however in the end it was worth it when the goal was worth it
Exactly! It suppose to be hard, realistically you supposed to be depressed and miserable! It is called winning at the highest level in the world! Otherwise everybody would do it, but only a few can.
That was pretty special, down 1-3 to beat the greatest team ever assembled!
You still had Tristian Thompson and JR Smith! 🤣😂
Juicy Fish and he should be grateful. But don’t put your team in a position where they can’t get players when you leave.
😂😂😂😂😂 that was funny
Juicy Fish Bron didn’t carry nothin. The east was weak af all them damn years and he got blitzed in the finals so point irrelevant
@@indmslikedeez8005 He scored 40 in literally half his games that post season you ain't gotta be a fan to recognize real don't sleep
@K Will Pretty sure KD going to the Warriors hindered their chances of winning but ok
Magic Johnson leaving had nothing to do with Lebron. So Colin's argument is flawed
Magic left because the organization's leadership was incompetent.
Doug , Magic said nothing about quitting because of lebron......u clowns need to stop it
Seriously. Magic wasn't exactly circumspect about why he left. Truth be told, I suspect it was more because LaVar Ball told people that he wasn't really in charge and his ego couldn't handle it whether it was true or not. Hint: This is why no team should ever touch Lonzo despite him being a good kid.
This is Gold, so David Grif was On The Jump clarrifying the article being spun around by the writer and by the media, and Doug was caught right in the middle of it. This is exactly what he was pointing out.
Also, Doug is blaming LBJ for not being blamed enough. LOL.
Just a few days ago, LBJ was being crucified for joining the lay up lines of his son's AAU game, and now this.
its NBA off season but its an open season for LBJ, everyone is taking their shots at him. LOL
yeoj joey LeBron doesn't deserve this
People are jealous of him...what do you expect of a guy who only played in college and his biggest success was playing in Summer League.....of course he's going to hate without any evidence
Damn it Doug. I actually kinda liked you before this video.
saying that the 2017 finals was a fair match up is a joke
Why is it a joke? I'm interested in reading how u spin this.
Houston could have beat them and Bron can only get 1 game?
How??
Oh god, doUG, you sounded so out of culture when you read the tweet
KreyzAim Hash tag brown fist 🤣🤣
He goes “aiiight aiiiight” lmao
KreyzAim you ever heard of sarcasm you idiot?
YOU STILL HAD TRISTAN THOMPSON? REALLY? ARE YOU JOKING?
He's an idiot.
One of the rare The Herd videos that has Dislikes > Likes. Says it all how whack Gottlieb is. It's unbelievable how the media in the US love to hate on LeBron. Even "Taco Tuesday" ? Come on!!
Nice job Doug. Griffin just went on the jump and said the opposite of what u tried to convince us of.
say what you want but Doug was laying down some facts especially at the beginning...
A true lebron hater
Kd calling someone toxic!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
LeBron isn't toxic. You joking right. He is
@@ressestevenson7309 go be average and happy in new Orleans Im Sure they'll have a happy environment finishing 10th in the west🤣🤣 good luck david Griffin
“Ether” is in reference to the classic Nas diss track, in which Nas went vicious on Jay Z. So Lebron was alluding to “ going hard” and not pulling punches, in regards to the league or his perceived enemies.
Remember that David hotline was the same dude who said he would rather have brad Stevens instead of Lebron to start a team
Wasn't too toxic and unfun winning chips and going to the finals every year, Griffin is two faced.
MakingMovesMajor dude won only 1 chip in Cleveland in 11 years, pump the break
DOUG IS THE ONLY ONE WHO KEEPS IT 100
Fun doesn’t win rings, hard work does and I’m not even a lebron fan but sorry truth is truth no matter how hard you’re trying to twist it, a disappointing Doug day
Skip Bayless hates on Lebron to get ratings but Gottlieb really hates Lebron!
Yeah
Doug Gottlieb out here talking about leadership in the NBA although he was an average Collage Player who only played in Summer League
Hes not wrong, Hawks spent years to build Korver into an unstoppable beast only to be a scapegoat
Lol stop
Whaaaat????? LOL
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Korver is a hall of famer
@@MichaelP-ke1tm he a hall of famer because he won a chip with lebron james facts
These people are ungrateful he brings championships he needs to be appreciated more if Lebron didn’t come back Cleveland wouldn’t of dreamed about having a championship
Kyrie's shot brought the championship
@@PROdigy1728 What kyrie do for boston ?
Yeah but Lebron pushed them to a game a game 7 if it wasn’t for Lebron he wouldn’t have a “game winning 3” to hit
@@kieran773ful if kyrie wasn't going off in the 4th quarters of game 5, 6, and 7 when lebum couldn't buy a shot or free throw they wouldn't have won the champion
@@damianpresha5155 wtf does Boston have to do with 2016 that was just a stupid comment
It is so true. Watching LeBron play basketball is great, it is fun. Listening to LeBron and his antics is annoying. Glad I only have to watch him and not work with him.
- Trying to trade Kyrie for Bledsoe and PG.
- Getting coach Blatt fired.
- Trading his entire team 2 times in the same season.
- Going to a Finals press conference with a fake cast on his hand.
And whats his reaction now that Griffin has clarified what he meant and that he was misquoted. Let the man be people.
"I got nothing for you" 8:52 you could have said that in the begining.
1st of all Doug. People hated Jordan, even his teamates. Same for Kobe. They are players that demand alot. Second of all Magic quit because of back stabbing Rob Pelinka. Not Lebron. No Lebron isnt easy to deal with. And he shouldnt be.
Meanwhile players are changing their minds about coming to LA. Some from there because they don't wanna deal with him and all he brings
This is America... Different rules for different people...
Doug Gottlieb is freaking hilarious. Lol
KD and David griffin said the same thing. It's the MEDIA's obsession with lebron that makes it a toxic enviroment not lebron himself. Yet the media twist it to they are saying lebron is toxic.
The irony lol
#facts
LeBron is too. Look what he said "inorganic and unsustainable", trades happening left and right because LeBron was looking for any quick fix to win. Griffin wanted to create a team and stick with it and let it build chemistry.
im sure pat Riley and Phil And all these guys are having fun now.. lets see whats pat been doing in regards to winning anything lately or even making it in and past the first round of the play offs
Very few highly successful people are fun to work with - Michael Jordan, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates... Expectations are high and you do it their way or the highway.
Lebron was always a diva only difference now people speaking out about it. Ask Crawford when he dunked on Lebron in the summer and Lebron confiscated the tape. Props to Griffin!!
I’m just coming on here to repeat that Doug’s takes are trash. Just yesterday Dave Griffin clarified his points. That he and Lebron James are good friends and that working with him the person was great. What Griffin didnt like was the championship or bust expectations and the media coverage of Lebron, which to KDs point IS toxic. I love how Doug ran with that when KD said it, but now HE is doing it himself, during the off-season, where the only reason this dude is even on here is because Colin is on vacation!
The League has caught up two years ago with the Lebron James system. I’m telling y’all, this upcoming season is going to be a disaster. AD is going learn the hard way.
ManOf1005Holds ArmBar Is predicting they miss the playoffs. Nuggets, Rockets, Clippers, Jazz, Warriors, Blazers, Spurs are all locks to make it. I personally think the Kings will be better than the Lakers. De’aaron Fox is a superstar in the making.
ManOf1005Holds ArmBar I agree. It’s over for Lebron. Nobody can do it forever
We'll just see how well this comment ages.
This is the most honesty about LeBron I've ever herd.... Preach Doug
I really don’t like this guy. Doug finds the bad in everything then magnifies it.
This guy blaming Lebron literally is disproving what David Griffin said about Lebron not getting blame😂😂
Superduper A huh? I think he was “blaming” LeBron as a way of pointing out all the different instances that he wasn’t blamed when he should’ve been to a degree at least.
We have always known this about him. He's a glory hound. Always has to be the center of attention. Look at what he does to players being interviewed. Acting like a clown at his boys game. The ridiculous taco Tuesday thing. The BS cast after losing. Drinking wine at games. Finally someone called him out. Long overdue.
Brando who hurt you? 😂
I don't see a problem with any of that, but what do you "what he does to players interviewing".
The Lebron haters are going hard out there.
Magic didn't speak on lebron he spoke on genie and rob
Competing for Chips every yr isn't fun. How fun was it for Jordans teammates, is it fun playing with Brady, is it fun playing for the Yankees.
This is what I don't get. It ain't LBJs responsibility to make his teammates happy in the quest for a championship. Crazy
Dope point
Yeah, all these teams didnt like the culture but THEY ALL WANTED HIM BACK
am watching Carmalo interview on First Take and it just done on me that there is a power play happening in the NBA to take the power back from the play ers. Hence, why people are attempting to write a false narrative on Lebron not being the best player in the game; as well as, David Griffin stating he w as "miserable" working with LBJ. Not to mention players like Kryie and Durant (haters / snakes) takes shot at LBJ. Additionally, the treatment of Carm elo, CP3 trade and Wayne retirement. All power players that collaborative to usher in a new era of player impowerment. Not to mention, they publicly a cclaimed that the NBA is a players league - controlled by players not owners.
smh!!...Nah bro it's just the truth. Associates of Lebron have been saying this for years now.
People forget that this is the case for a lot of players (Kobe and Jordan)
Yep, being one the best at anything I'm sure has it drawbacks 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The problem is Jordan and Kobe got criticized for it while Lebron gets a pass and no blame.
@@TarvarisJenkins24 Lebron gets a pass? Hahaha. He has been criticized about everything since he was like 16. Come on.
@@mileswilliams4807 name another great that got passes for losing to superior teams...
L3-6RON is a team management killer. He should shut up and dribble instead of constantly hijacking his GM's and coaches...
GM LeBron cost LeBron a championship or two
@K Will I'm not like others who say that his finals record is a reflection of his on court performance. I feel that personnel and contract decisions he forced on teams put him as a player behind the 8 ball a couple of times.
Interesting. I'm sure Pat Riley had similar thoughts as well 🤔 0:16
100% agree with Doug. LeBron is a great player but he has earned the reputation of being the king of drama. Period. End of story.
List the drama that Lebron has caused over his career, not the media but Lebron has caused.
@@chrisallen6362 This is not an exhaustive list. But;
Literally everything Doug talks about in this video.
The decision.
After his first game not registering an assist while he was in nearly a decade back when he was in Miami he threw his teammates under the bus saying "You've got to hit shots before can get an assist."
He single handedly drove Kyrie Irving out of town.
He's still putting on this act like he somehow doesn't have any help when he has and has had more help than Jordan, Kobe, or any other super star in NBA history could ever have dreamed over.
He's clashed with every coach he's had since Mike Brown the first time around in Cleveland and gotten David Blatt, Tyron Lue, Luke Walton, all fired, he's gotten Mike Brown fired twice and nearly got Erik Spolstra fired.
Rob Coe I'm sorry but half of the things you said are so far from the truth. You and many other haters just always try to crucify him. It's depressing and it seems like people will never get around to congratulating him on his success or career. But instead ppl spit lies. It's just depressing.
@@davidfarmani8511 No, you're just one of the sycophants that Doug was talking about in this video. As I said above. He's a great player. But he's also the king of drama. And I will even rephrase. He's the king of self manufactured, passive agressive drama.
@@HALEIWA7 who is you favorite team?
They act lbj doesn't take blame when he does
Losing to Dallas he took all blame
Prove it. You a dam lie.
@@ressestevenson7309 he admitt many times why he came back strong
LeBron has never had any intention of letting a team build a championship contender that could be sustained for years by getting young talent and growing with that talent. There's a reason why every team he has left went into the tank. Not because the lose of him was too great to overcome, but because each team mortgages their future for the short term. Bad contracts, trading draft picks, trading young players away. That by the time he thinks it's time to bail, the team is left with nothing because he forced them to spend and trade it all away for the short term. The same exact thing is going to happen to the Lakers. They'll be good for the next couple years until LeBron retires, but then they'll have nothing because they traded away everything and signed bad contracts just to make LeBron happy. The Lakers will be a dumpster fire after he leaves as was all the other teams he's left.
A lie doesn't become the truth just because enough people repeat it.
Working with championship calibre players will never be fun if you don't have that same pedigree... whether you're a player or an executive.
b7major Everbody can’t be wrong bruh.
@@tubafats100 Who's everybody? That's a yoga stretch right there.
b7major I mean everyone that has said this about Lebron can’t be wrong. If multiple people from multiple stages in his career say the same thing, there has to be something to it
@@tubafats100 if that's what you think, then sure thing buddy
I have so many arguments against this rant
Kd calls Lebron toxic meanwhile
Kd fights Westbrook
Kd fights Draymond
Kd fights Boogie
They are both toxic
That's the problem with some people, they want to have fun at work. I bet they felt the same way about Jordan.
Not Fun!!?? They play and coach a child's game for millions of dollars. You can find your fun in the off-season in the South of France or some ish
Steve Jobs 👏🏾🤣💯👌🏾
You definitely missed the point. When Lebron joins a team your job actually becomes a job. I think Davis Griffin would be the first person to tell you his job is super easy but adding Lebron adds pressure you’ve never had to deal with.
Haven’t watched the video yet, but knowing Doug I can already hear him saying "I told you so"
Stealing credit cards is unsustainable
Lebron fans triggered in 3, 2, 1...
already been dismissed, it was a clown writer misconstruing things
Why do you care what his fans thinks?
@@holocade4908 Nah, it was confirmed. I didn't hear him take one word out of his quotes back. He wasn't misquoted. How can "Lebron doesn't take blame" be misconstrued?
@@mbp7060 th-cam.com/video/Q-B3cK1y1Yg/w-d-xo.html you might be the dumbest person ive seen today
Juicy Fish #triggered
The unintended consequences of oversaturated sports media. WHO CARES
You had me until you said don't hop in to lay up lines with your son, that must have been such an amazing experience for those kids! That was probably an amazing experience for the kids on the other team as along with everybody in the building. I'm not hopping in a layup line with my kid but I'd be stoked if LeBron James hopped in a layup line with my kid, how exciting for my kid!
So annoyed...this is like watching a guy back at home talk about those in war. Pitiful
David Griffin has literally just gone on ESPN and defended LeBron himself yet this clown blames LeBron still 😂😂
That's called honesty
Then why did the story come out the other way?
Haven’t heard so much nonsense in one epidode Lool
Dwade got two rings when he played with LeBron, guess he can stand the heat in the kitchen. Man up!!! Man you say that stuff on your book tour where you are getting paid. He didn't get paid and destroyed himself for free. Your boss may not be fun, but you still go to work and they still lead your organization. If you want a friend, get a dog!!
doug is like the biggest lebron hater ever
Obviously bron is a joke...but miserable is too strong a word when u make the money these guys do
How exactly is he a joke?
@@b.waynepresents2992 don't have enough time to go over many primadonna actions
Facts!!!
I personally think Gottlieb nailed it here! He’s not hating on anything, just speaking the truth! If you were to move a lot of the great NBA players to this era, you might get a lot of the same kind of thing. Players run the league now....
I’m done with these shows. No sustenance, being successful isn’t always fun in the moment, greatness is only fun in hindsight.
Doug is right
LeBron is 100% about winning first and foremost. My take is a lot of these bad-mouthing fellas are maybe 60% winning and 40% fun. So they were stressed because held accountable. And then sour grapes afterwards. You didn't mention Kyrie's Celtic realization how much direction LeBron gave. And that's why you're just another glib sports jock and not a true analyst.
Griffin said almost the same things that Kyrie said when left James... #Lebum exposed again.
A "bum" only dragged lottery teams to the Finals 4 TIMES for Cleveland.
@@MakingMovesMajor if you don't see how league is helping James become fake goat and how some games and moves/trades are rigged in general then you are just delusional and there is no point to discuss.
@@marcinskora1295 same as Jordan with Pippen and ALL THE HELP he had never got to the FINALS without Pippen
People be hating on my guy doug. He be spittin facts
Haters do not waste any opportunity to jump on LBJ
Do a show with Griffins updated response
I don't think Doug watches sports media very much because... You know that network you're currently on, Fox? They kinda have the 3 biggest LeBron James haters on TV bringing multiple bad takes weekly with Skip Bayless, Jason Whitlock and Rob Parker. Dude can't even donate to charity without getting hated on these days.
U left of all the Bron apologists on that very channel
Doug call Magic out for saying work is not fun but not now something wrong with this
Nah JR pulled the dumbest move ever in professional sports history, I'd be furious with him
Dude! You can't steal your classmate's credit card!!!
Colin come back quick please 🙄 Before we have another Ryan Hollins situation 😒
Isn’t it funny how the people who bash his game are also the ones who bash his personality...Bron haters love these stories and they jump all over it
You’re not the culture! You don’t suppose to know what “that is”
This “FUN”thing is honestly getting on my nerves this is a BUSINESS
I wish I could have fun at work..I get so hype every morning thinking about going to my cubicle
Please get your fax straight Dougie, Griff is not from Ohio! And Magic never said that LeBron had anything to do with him not having fun. Doug, did LeBron refuse to sign your son's t-shirt or something?
Hating 101
business is supposed to be fun? lebron brought titles to these cities... come on now...
Gottlieb: Lebron has no idea what fun is.
Also Gottlieb: what is he doing, running into a kids bball practice like a maniac and dunking???
Kobe n MJ literally bullied teammates at times even punch em that was seen as winning mindset, mamba mentality. Lebron asks for as much as any star before him he toxic get outta here, Griffin...
Tk Hannibal you’re leaving a lot of things out. It’s the over bearing shadow of klutch sports rich Paul and lebron seemingly being in charge. It’s the possibility of being traded throughout the season because lebron needs another star. It’s the fear of your coach being fired because he doesn’t get along with lebron. It’s his passive aggressiveness in person and social media. Every star has their toxic issues, I’m not denying it but lebron carries that toxicity to every team he goes to.
Tk Hannibal always an excuse to help Lebron out. You fanboys should be defense attorneys
MJ bullied players to the point where he broke them and their career ended.
These guys are pure alpha dogs who have been lazer focused on greatness since high school and see weakness as pathetic and revolting like a bad smell. If you can't handle that. If you see that as a negative then go play for a loser, get your cheques and whine about what might have been when it's all over.
incipidsigninsetup once again you’re missing the point. Michael and Kobe’s era was strictly about basketball no politics or anything involved. In today’s era with social media business and politics that level of toxicity is amplified to heights never before seen in past players. To say that lebron doesn’t bring toxicity is just absurd. And yes this can be avoided. Look at every other superstar in this league.
@@butterNpants yeah look at them they are not winners lebron has one 3 of the last 10 chips warrriors has won 3 of the last 10 santonio has one 2 of the last 10 toronto 1 and dallas 1 so who are allthese successful champions oh lebron and the warriors take the narrative and stick it