My Dad has the 2015 XF 3.0 litre Diesel with about 150k on the clock. It's a fabulous car! Barely any issues to speak of, extremely comfortable and that engine is just brilliant. Heaps of power for a fang out in the country and gets 1000km to a tank. I've told him It's mine when he upgrades next. 🤞
Had an XF 2013 3.0 D V6 Portfolio for two years and never had a single issue with it. Bought with 92k miles (148K km) with good history and it never missed a beat with me doing 500 miles a week. Great car with a lot of character and really moves when you want it to.
I have a 2008 XF 3.0 NA with 61k km on it. Never had an issue with it but then again, I regularly get it serviced. The one issue I do have is with the chrome window trim. It has gone milky and I remedied this by getting it wrapped. Now it just looks incredible. Still very sharp and sexy for a 15 year old car. I highly recommend this car!
If ever my XF needs to be replaced, I'm opting for another Jag. My first one has gotten me hooked. It's sad that Jag is moving away from building coupe and sedans though. I think I will stick with used and never experience being an owner of a new Jag.
If it was horribly neglected, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. If it was greatly looked after, I'll put it in my bucket list as my next purchase.
My XF is currently on 160K miles and drives fantastic. The key factor is that I purchased with full service history. Just like any car, if well maintained it will stick by you. Fantastic to drive. Great car!!
I had a RR vogue SE, I struggled to find a replacement, then after 6 months I found the XF Sportbrake with the Portfolio spec, it was 4 years old and after 5 minutes of driving it I loved it. I have had it 4 years the 2.2 is pretty bullet proof, as for leaks, none seen, ok the door actuator went. I have one of the lowest powered smaller engines, I find it ideal. This is my first Jag, I can’t imagine going to another Marque, I love it. A lot say on paper the BMW 5 series is a better car, but they still prefer the Jag.
And MANY MORE actually buy the BMW 5 series because it IS a MUCH better car in every way, and love it. Facts from reliability surveys show Jaguar and Range Rover are by FAR the most unreliable vehicles on the road. Jaguars lag behind BMW and the other competitors in every area, from handling, performance, fuel efficiency quality, etc. People who buy Jaguars are doing it with the hearts, because they think they are buying into that 'British' image and history (even though modern Jaguars are made by Tata an Indian company), people who buy BMW are doing it with their heads, because it is by far the much better car in every way.
For a DIYer, best car around. Cheap af to buy, cheap to maintain if you do it yourself. When it comes to comfort and that sort of stuff, one of the best cars ever built. I got mine for 4000 euros and it nearly has 450000km, perfect.
I have had two XF's, both 3ltr diesels, never had a problem with either. My first was written off in a rear end crunch. My insurers gave me a new BMW 2ltr petrol M sport. I hated it with a vengeance, found it bland in comparison to the Jag. Now in an XJ Portfolio for the past four years and still love it!
I had a 3 litre "S" diesel from new (2009), for 9 years 96,000 on the clock when i sold it and apart from 2 new batteries in that period, tyres and regular servicing, never any problems. One of the best cars I have ever owned. (and surprisingly quick in the "S" form).
Mine is a 2010 model, same engine, no problems at all. I'm a member of 3 different Jag forums and have never heard most of those supposed issues ever come up.
I refuse to believe that people who can make such a good car, can't make it last. I suspect the lack of reliability is by design and it's the same with all those fancy Euro cars. I mean, plastic water pump, etc...
I've owned a 2010 3.0D XF S 275 Premium Luxury for three years now, bought with just one previous owner and 42k miles on the clock. I paid such a low price for it I was able to afford to get the cambelt and pumps changed and the gearbox serviced as soon as I bought it. Love the shape and interior styling, classic and modern simultaneously. Lots of features that were ahead of its time when launched. Also, 'look after your car, she'll look after you' is my mantra for faultless performance and motoring. This cat loves long journeys and positively purrs all the way. And, no, parts aren't necessarily expensive to come by if you do need them - certainly not in the UK. But, my mantra is to keep on top of maintenance (as with any vehicle), deal with any niggles before they become actual issues; rigorously change the oil and filter every 6k miles, occasionally use Wynn's diesel power 7 on a long run to give the engine and other components a spring clean, and only use Shell V-Power diesel fuel. Join the Jag forums so you can learn from others' experiences of the vehicle [and also to learn to check for potential common faults, to ensure you're not going to experience them]. Compared to my previous ultra modern vehicle, I'm now 50% more fuel efficient, carbon offset the fuel I do use and intend to run this Jag until I'm forced by law to no longer have an ICE vehicle - though, hopefully before then, we'll be able to fill with diesel replacement fuel directly.
Hi Jon, have also just bought a 2010 3.0D Premium Luxury. Only 46k on the clock (Isle of man owner). it goes in for full service and timing belt change Friday. Just wondered about your mention of the gearbox being serviced, is this recommended? Also do you have plans to change the infotainment system or is it already upgraded? Thinking of getting this done. So far loving this car.
@@simac8640I have the 2010 XFS 3 TD here in Australia, there was a South African guy who did videos on upgrades to Android auto etc. let me know how you go
Hi I've cheated and got a 10 quid bluetooth aux connector :-) lets me play my moby through it now, all I need really. I might get round to totally replacing the system when I have a word with the local car audio guy in town though..once i've recovered from the cam-belt, fuel belt servicing bill!..@@tonybooth4
I have a 2011 supercharged 5.0...it absolutely rips yet is a smooth quiet ride. The front end style is outdated but from the back it resembles a modern Tesla. I would recommend it to someone who doesn't want to look too flashy but still have the power to put most modern sport cars to shame.
The bottom end failure claims are not true for the 3.0 V6. The 2.7 V6 is the bearing spinner. Most of the electronic failures are due to the looms, a boot loom is £150 and takes 20 mins to swap, the overhead interior lights just need a clean and regrease on the contacts to fix, takes 30mins and cost less than a fiver! I own a 2010 3.0 TDV6 and it’s glorious, it’s age is hidden by the Black exterior and Black interior. Servicing is key to reliability. I change my oil every year and I do less than 6,000 miles a year. The belts are an expensive job but a good local tech did mine for £700 and I’ll probably never have to do them again, it gets 35-55mpg and goes like a scalded cat. Most people won’t buy em and that’s fine with me cos with a little knowledge and a little work these are fantastic cars. Keep the prices low by slagging them off so is that know how to look after a car can enjoy our XFs a little cheaper to buy 😉
As always great video guys. I will say this again & again, reliability is mostly down to how the owners treat their vehicles. If they service them & cherish them & spend money as it needs it without compromising they will last a long time. As soon as you start to skip services or save a few dollars on running costs then it will go down hill very fast. As a reputable mechanic myself I find it very frustrating when customers try & put off maintenance to save $$. You have to spend money to keep your vehicle in good condition otherwise it will cost you a lot more later when something does go badly wrong.
I'm in total agreement here. People buy used euro for the 'look at me' factor and either can't afford or don't understand maintenance. Two mechanics I knew in my NZ home town liked euro cars and one was adamant that BMW electronics were the best to deal with and the other that you have to know how to work on them and where/whom to get parts. Neither were dealers but specialist mechanics. A mate who is a Holden mechanic swears people off Captiva and Cruise but also consistently comes across other mechanics work or DIY that he has to fix because he knows all the tips.
I have owned my 2011 XF 3.0 D for 11 years now and love it. A few things have gone wrong but have been rectified with a little expense as with all cars. The car still feels new and the paint work is excellent. My car has done 54.000klm in its lifetime. The claret paintwork is amazing and was only produced for 2 years. A beautiful car. Make sure you see the regular service records to help you decide on one. I don't think you would regret it. You also need a mechanic who knows Jaguars and check with them before purchase.
I have owned an XFR for over 10 years. Fantastic car. All of these recommendations are good. There are a bunches of items you missed. starting with: 1. Coolant pipe crossover in the behind the supercharger needs to be added to the list of plastic coolant pipes to replace; fortunately they make all metal coolant/xover/thermostat for the 5.0L S/C now aftermarket. The OEM ones will continue to fail every 50k miles until you replace with metal. Make sure the rear crossover pipe in metal has the two screw flange not the 3 screw flange because the 3 goes to the V6. 2. The coolant tank has a internal sensor and pressure cap that can go bad and the tank itself can fail with the plastic hoses. Replace the whole tank and cap and hoses. 3. The black coolant bleeder screws on the top left of the engine bay by the fuse cover are $#!* plastic and get soft over time and can spring a leak that will definitely strand you on the road. There are some brass ones for $6 at any auto parts store that you can get for a lot of other cars like BMW's that will replace them forever. 4. Also the Engine/Transmission mounts need changing at this age along with the all the suspension bushings. 5. The transmission has a rectangle plastic seal called a mechatronic seal that you can buy a billet aluminum one to replace it with online; that when broken will make the transmission have a hard 2-1 shift that lunges the car coming to a stop. Replacing it with another OEM plastic one will still crack again and again and again until you replace it with a metal one. 6. You have to replace the transmission oil with ZF Lifeguard 6 fluid only and filter every 50K miles or your trans will start to lunch itself. Other types of fluid will cause malfunctions. Replace the paper clutches with metal ones. Refurb the Valve body with new solenoids. 7. Replace the diff oil every 50K as well. 8. There is a plastic breather valve on the diff that can clog and cause problems with its operation. Clean/Replace it. 9. The stock Fuel Direct Injectors need changing every 100k miles because they will fail from high heat and pressure over time and you want to run a fuel lubrication cleaner like lucas oil through them at least one a quarter to keep them tip top. Also make sure the replacement injectors are Bosch or OEM. Knockoffs are terrible quality and will fail and blow the engine. 10. The fuel pump fuel filter housing has some bad connector that will short out and cause starting problems that needs replacing every 100k. Its under the passenger rear seat. Look inside the connector, if there are burn marks in there, yours is bad. 11. The O2 sensors need replacing every 100k or you can start to get check engine codes. There are 4, two upstream and two downstream. Make sure they are Denso or Bosch or OEM brand, the knockoffs cause more problems. 12. Same for the two MAF sensors. They need to be Denso or OEM only and replaced every 100k. 13. I have heard the shock tower mounts can fail. Replace with OEM. 14. The rubber center driveshaft mount can fail causing drive-line vibration and also the rubber flex coupler isolators connecting the shaft to the diff and to the trans to the shaft get brittle over time and will fail. 15. Change Supercharger oil possibly add a S/C venom cooler from stagemeyer. While the supercharger is off, insulate the bottom of it with aspen aerogel from the engine heat and add a ePTFE spacer with water injection ports. 16. If your car was not driven hard or lots of short trips it has probably carbon buildup from DI and needs walnut blasting inside the intake. 17. EGR Blockoff plate and baffled oil catch can to prevent carbon buildup in future. 18. Make sure the tensioners are upgraded metal OEM ones. The early stock ones are plastic. 19. Divorce the intercooler setup from the radiator coolant and use separate tank and inter-chiller. This will allow the heat soak to not build up as fast. My intake air temps can get high here in FL. 180 degree+! stock normal IAT is around 147 degrees. Imagine getting this down to ambient. These things go for any XFR, F-Type, XJR, F-Pace, Range Rover 5.0L S/C variants.
I own a 2012 Jaguar XF, with the naturally aspirated 5 litre engine. I absolutely love this car. If I can keep it running, without bankrupting myself, I am going to drive it until I can no longer drive. Really love the engine note....worth the price of entry. Tried Mercedes, Audi, and BMW but found they lacked soul. Problems to date have been a short in the wiring harness, that controls the rear camera, two water pumps, and the associated plastic plumbing (which are junk), Beyond basic maintenance, once a year, that has been it. Compared to the Audi 5000 and Lincoln Continental that I previously owned, this car has been far more reliable.
I bought an XF 2012 2.2 Diesel in Nov 2012 still runs like new with no problems, other than sticky buttons which is a common problem in cars of that era including BMW Merc etc. Serviced it every 12 months done 78000 kms. Just traded it for a BMW iX EV.
I have ownd a Lexus IS 350 F sport 2014 from new. Nothing, absolutely nothing has ever failed. Great car, luxurious, comfortable, handles incredibly well you could not get a better car
Have owned xf 3.0d for good few years, looking after it its at 180k miles at the moment and its the best car i ever had , dont want to sell it ever and if have to get rid i will buy another one of them or mercedes cls...
I have the exact same color and interior trim here in the south of England. Has been trouble free other than the gear selector needing a refurb once. The drive is superb and the 3L V6 twin turbo diesel is smooth and scarily fast !! Its a 2009 model with 93k miles on the clock but I am worried an upgrade to a BMW or Merc later will not be this satisfying !!
I have a 2009 XF with the V-8. It just turned over 100,000 relatively trouble free miles. I did have to replace the plastic radiator overflow tank. It is very fast and corners extremely well.
I'm in UK and I have XF-S Premium Luxury V6 3.0 Diesel from 2009, same colour like in the vid but with black interior. Love it ! Wouldn't give it away now. Only issue had with it was a DPF and now a front lower forward wishbone arm bushes. I have it for 2.5 years and it made 125k miles already. Love that car
This car broke my heart. Such a lovely place to sit and the drive was wonderful, but it was just issue after issue. Biggest problem I had was that the wheels were prone to cracking. Watch out for this, especially if you opt for an example with large alloys.
Good review. I have a SVR from 2009. Yes there have been a few expensive problems...but over 12 years I may have spent $30k in servicing and fixes. When you think I bought this for $110k (was $220k brand new), its been a great pleasure to drive. Another thing is that I got a trade in value last year of $7k...yes just $7k. Forget it I will drive this until its end. cheers
I have been driving an Jaguar XF 3.0D 75th anniversary everyday for the last 2 years and so far it's been decent in reliability. The biggest issue with this model in my opinion is the electronics. On my car the infotainment reboots randomly, the led on my rpm needle is flashing and weaker in brightness and the overhead light sometimes turn on and off by itself. Atleast Jaguar made the modules plug and play so if you get issues with them on your car you can just buy a used part and replace them quite easily and quickly. The bluetooth module is known for causing issues with the infotainment because of water damage/corrosion. I think a bypass loop is the best way to deal with it because the module is so old and you don't lose much functionality. I have also seen that some companies have started selling a complete replacement for the entire infotainment system for the Jaguar XF. It gives the car modern connectivity options along with a much bigger touchscreen and it controls everything the original one does, adds support for other higher quality backup cameras and will work with the built in buttons is the steering wheel. Since these infotainment systems basically are android devices that are modified to interact perfectly with the Jaguar XF they could be had for a very reasonable price. My car starts and drives perfectly fine everyday even in the winter when it was -30 degrees outside for many weeks. I had mine at the EU control a few days ago and the only repairs required was a single wheel bearing and 1 of the bulbs by the license plate was not lighting up. Which is not bad at all.
I bought a 2013 XFS D sportbrake in portfolio trim in the uk. This has way more character than a BMW, Merc or Audi hence why I chose it. I really wanted the sunroof but opted out in the end for the exact reasons in this video. Also with the gear selector if it fails to rise usually means moisture has got in there either someone spilt a drink at some point someone with wet hands or got in the car wet and got water over the controls. There’s a circuit board right under there for the button panel near the gear selector, really stupid place! Also the water wicking issue with the washer bottle is more common in the facelifted versions and tends to come from the headlamp washer pump.
'Character' is not a measureable factor, so to say one car brand 'has more character' than another is absolute bullsheet. You think you are being smug by buying into the British image, yet Jaguar is owned by Tata an Indian company. Many MANY more people buy cars based on facts, reliability surveys, and handling, performance, efficiency, and quality advantages, and that is why many MANY more people buy BMW's. Your unreliable, ugly, boat-handling, oil-burning, heap of blandness, doesn't even come close to the character of my BMW M2, and it most certainly doesn't come close in handling, reliability, performance, and quality.
Have a 2011 XF V8. Garage kept and drive every once in a while on weekend. Drained wiper fluid tank and will keep it empty due to possible issue it can cause. Dome light comes on randomly 👻. Passenger window will roll down randomly when trying to roll up. Serviced regularly and no other issues.
I just purchased a 2014 xf in August this year, and so far so good. I love my car. I do have a warranty, but watching this video scares me. However, when I purchased this car it had 93,000 miles.
Like Adam said. There is another option 😏 I have owned a 2012 Lexus GS350 for the last 7 years. It just clocked 248,000kms last week and, aside from general wear and tear, it has not given me ANY trouble at all. I had a 2005 Lexus GS300 for a 3yrs before my current one and it didn’t give me a single issue either. I do truly love the XF. In 2008 when they came out, I’d drool and hoped to someday own one. But just like with luxury watches; the Japanese tend to do a far more reliable and often product, for far less $. I love my GS 🖤
@@azcarter4389 Why is it mad to praise your Jaguar when it has been perfectly reliable and a great car all round? A friend of mine bought the GS at the same time, same year and it's a nice car but utterly boring comparted to the Jag. I'd stick with the Jag any day, all that stuff about what goes wrong is garbage.
@@severnsea I don't know man, I just say things. I don't think you're mad to praise any car that you enjoy really. Everyone has their own taste. I disagree with that the stuff about reliability being garbage though. I know someone who has had many problems with his XFR Jag and quite expensive and long turn around fixes aswell. Some models are worse than others the XFR being one of the worst, but statistically speaking an XF late 2000's jag vs a Lexus GS of similar vintage are in 2 different ball parks. One has engine/transmission combinations of some of the most reliable ever produced (Lexus) and the other simply doesn't and doesn't normally bode well in reliability surveys. I'm happy for you that you've had a great experience, but keep it another 10 years and get back to me.
@@azcarter4389 Odd that, on the owners forums the XFR is the most recommended. It's the diesels that seem to be problematic because of the DPF filters, but most cars have DPF issues because they're not fit for purpose - the stop the engine from breathing which is the opposite of what it needs. I can't disagree with the Lexus having a good reputation but they just so boring to drive, they don't have the character that the Jag has. Maybe it's because they're not as popular in the UK, but you don't see many older Lexus around. There are probably more pre-2000 Jags than anything as they are popular with enthusiasts, but that's because they are a British car. But most of the unreliability reports come from the older models. People read about them being unreliable and assume that applies to the current ones too. In 2010 the XF actually came top in the JD Power survey so they can't be that bad!
Owned a 2015 XF Premium Luxury with the 3 ltr supercharged. I loved the car. My favorite, it was lovely inside and out, and drove amazingly well. Engine replaced at 30k, and aircon compressor about 2 months later. Jaguar covered the engine,I paid for the compressor. So yeah. Favorite car I've ever owned, and lived up to its reputation. Still miss it.
New engine at 30K...says a lot. I once viewed an S-type which was 5 ys old and then the seller told me that the engine already replaced 56k miles. Jinxed it all.
Of course, my brother bought a 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee and at 4400 km the engine has crapped out and has been sitting for a month at a dealer awaiting availability of a new engine. So Jag isn't alone with serious quality issues. At least the Jag would happily wag it's tail with a liberal application of throttle... if I had to choose between crappy cars, the Jag still wins.
@@mickadatwist1620 It doesn't say anything, there are countless XFs around that have covered 5 times that distance. Mine has covered 64000 miles and drives like new. It depends how it was looked after for one thing. I've heard of everything from Ford, BMW, Mercedes and countless others that have had new engines after just a few thousand miles. One of the Kia models is reported as having engine seizures after 10,000 miles and one owner reported having to get a new engine installed for the third time at 16,000 miles. Part of the problem these days is they are so finely tuned to meet emissions standards, if they are not looked after they soon start to deteriorate but the vast majority of drivers don't do anything until it's too late, and those that do use the cheapest oil they can use and so on. Howe many women do you know who check their oil regularly, or at all?
I have a 2011 XF 3.0 Diesel turbo from new and done over 150k miles. NO MAJOR PROBLEMS at all. Usual regular services. Replaced a leaky coolant expansion bottle at 130k and at the same time replaced the pump an the rubbers and seals just to be on the safe side. Timing belt changed at 140k. Recently replaced the boot cable and Bluetooth card under the passenger seat. 12 years of safe and reliable driving. I recently bought a Tesla but still kept and love my XF.
About that shifter: Land Rovers and Range Rovers used that shifter for most of the 2010s, especially the facelift L322 and the LR4s when they got the 8 speed automatic transmission. I'm not sure if they still use it currently though.
I’ve had two 3-litre XFs over 9 years. Beautiful cars and never had a problem other than a sticky fuel filler cap on the first one (fixed very quickly). I loved the rotating air vents and the rotary gear knob. The engines and transmissions were divine. Only made a change because I wanted an F-Pace. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them.
I bought a 2016 Jaguar XF Prestige in Hawaii in July of 2019. I loved it at the beginning. The first problem I had was the rims were 19" and scared up so I did lots of research and found the rim and tires I wanted. There were 18" and the tires I wanted came in the correct size. I bought the rims and made my appointment at Jaguar of Honolulu. When I took the car in they told me that they can not swap out the rims because I did not buy them from their dealership (The ONLY Jaguar dealership in Hawaii). I explained that I spent $2,000 US dollars on the rims and basically begged them, but they were firm and did not do the work. I took my Jag to GoodYear in Pearl City and begged them to switch the TPS sensors from the old rims to the new rims and do a wheel alignment. They agreed to switch the TPS sensors but told me they can not do work on Jaguars (At all not even oil changes). In fact, I quickly learned that no shops of any kind will do any work on a Jaguar (Fast Lube, Jiffy Lube, No one will do oil changes). Jaguar of Honolulu charges about $900.00 to service the car and do an oil change (information I found out after I was already STUCK with the car). I scheduled another appt with Jaguar to do the wheel alignment and fix the doors which were suddenly not locking anymore. At the appt I was told that the reason my doors stopped locking was the door actuators went bad. They replaced them on (2) doors and I paid the $2,000 bill making my Jaguar start to leave a dent in my wallet. This brings my investment to over $4,000 dollars plus the (4) new tires and I just bought the car! I should also say that I bought the car with 25,000 miles just for complete understanding. Door locks should not be breaking at 25k miles. That is insane!!!! Ok, so after paying the bill I walk out to my car and there is a huge 5 inch long area of scratches and missing paint at the bottom of one of the doors they fixed. I got so mad it was difficult to contain my rage after the bill I just paid. They did NOT discount the work after admitting they damaged my car. They could not even fix it that day because they had to schedule with an outside vendor for paint repairs. So I had to bring it back in a few weeks. In the meantime every time it rained my doors they started filling up with water or when I washed the car too.!!! At the next appt they (sort of fixed the paint damage). I could tell where they damaged it and they cleaned out the doors so they stopped filling up with water. This bill was no charge (Thank God!!). That was all in the 1st year of ownership. Now fast forward to now in Nov 2023. My Jag started leaking coolant. I made an appointment to Jaguar of Honolulu and the quote for the repair was $7,000 US dollars. I am not even finished making payments on the car and I have only driven the car 28,000 miles since I bought it!!! The Odometer is at 53,000 miles!!!! Explain to me how it has a 7,000 dollar coolant at 53K miles??? I own a 2006 Toyota Tacoma (I am the only owner) with 160,000 miles and only paid for breaks, oil changes, and a couple of battery replacements. How on Earth is Jaguar built so BAD????? I called Subaru and told them my 2016 Jag was in perfect condition and asked them how much they would give me to trade it in and you know what they said? Sorry, we won't take Jaguar for trade-ins. You have to sell it on your own. Are you freaking kidding me here!!!!!! I hate Jaguar and I will never ever have anything good to say about them ever again. I have to find a way to get out of this nightmare car!!!!! Any thoughts???
What a review, a load of crap, l've owned Jags for the last 24 years, after having loads of other marques, l'm now 82, the Jag, is the only car l have continuous bought. I suppose, if you ask everyone in the world as it appears you have done, you will get the type of referrals which seem to go with your BIAS. KEEP SAFE 🙌 Love to Australia 🇦🇺.
I've had my 2013 Jaguar XF for five years. It's been reliable, I had oil changes done at multi-brand service centers and the cam belt replacement at a Jaguar dealership. No worries.
I have had 2 XFs. A 2009 3l V6 diesel and then a 2014 3l V6 diesel sport brake. Absolutely the best cars that I ever owned and would buy another. I was lucky to buy Jaguar used approved. The 2009 had the boot loom fail, real door lock issue and required a new gearbox at 60,000 miles - all fixed under warranted. The 2014 had a door lock issue and when I sold it an oil leak from the rocker cover (jag estimate £1600 to fix). And rear tyres lasted only 10,000 miles.. Fabulous cars, buy one and keep aside a healthy maintenance budget.
How were you driving it? I've had over 16000 miles from the rears on P Zeros (known to be a softer than average tyre), with plenty of tread still left on them.
The best car you have ever owned, yet the boot loom failed, it needed a new gearbox, rear door lock, before 60k lol, oil leaks, rear tyres every 10k ffs. I owned a BMW for 144,000 miles and all it needed was a crank position sensor and two rear shocks at around 120,000 miles. You're deluded, or stupid, or both.
we had an XF with the 3.0 diesel, did over 300k miles (480k km), and they can be very reliable. the 2.2 and 3.0 diesels are reliable, the 2.7 diesel is the one that has all the issues mentioned. the petrol V6 and V8s are also pretty tough with timing chain issues being few and far between. electrical issues mentioned also only really affected the early models, so if you get a facelift, it shouldn't affect you. with the facelift you also got much better tech than the prefacelift car in this video, and the creaky interior is somewhat resolved as well.
Still have an XF-S 3.0d 2014 from new, have covered 100thousand miles and 0 problems apart from basic servicing, take care of it and it’ll take care of you.
*Correction RE V6 petrol normally-aspirated:* The AJ-V6 AJ30 n-a engine is based on the Ford Duratec V6 that was originally a Porsche design. It is a traditional 60 degree V6 design, not a 90 degree V6 derived from a V8. Rather, it is the supercharged V6, the AJ-V8 AJ126 90 degree V6, which uses the AJ133 V8 engine block with the rear two cylinder bores blanked, and reduced bore sizes.
My old man had a Jaguar XF S Portfolio, god dam that was a nice car! Only issue was the PDF always needing to burn off, which would force the need for a unscheduled long drive. He upgraded to a C63 S AMG after this, and I think the Jaguar was the nicer car!
Nicer ? How can an unreliable, boat-handling, shitbox Indian made Jaguar be 'nicer' than a luxury, massive performance, great handling, amazing sounding, reliable and desirable Mercedes. It can't and it isn't, you're talking rubbish.
@@DjNikGnashers What a strange comment, from a seemingly strange individual. lol. 1. It never had a reliability problem (neither did the AMG). 2. It was an S model, and it handled very well, while being dramatically more comfortable over the AMG. 3. The build quality and materials felt and looked better, they just did! 4. It was a UK made model. 5. How can a Jaguar XF not be considered luxury? It felt more "Luxury" compared to the C-Class, and it wasn't really close. Yeah sure, the AMG V8 sounded far better, and handled well, but nothing that could really be utilised on public roads, making the Jaguar the nicer daily driving experience. Perhaps instead of basing opinions mainly on the badge, you can save yourself from talking rubbish? Go away and enjoy the "reliability" and "luxury" of your entry model BMW.
@@killertaxi100 Your opinion of a strange comment is valid, as your opinion, but your judgement of my character as 'strange individual' is offensive and based on zero knowledge of me personally, so I think you're best keeping that to yourself. Everyone can type 'my car was 100% reliable' without any factual back up evidence, it means nothing. The facts are, in every major trusted vehicle reliability survey, Jaguar and RangeRover always have several entries in the most unreliable top 10, every year, for decades. This isn't opinion, it is fact. Just because you were lucky does not mean the vehicle is reliable, it just means yours was and you were lucky. An S model Jaguar handles ok, and it might have been more confortable and an AMG S, but an AMG S is a sporty variation of the model and is not designed to be comfortable, it is designed to be great handling. All of the road tests of the time, put the AMG S handling way above any Jaguar competitor. Am I to trust dozens of motoring journalists, or one random fanboy on the internet ? Feeling 'luxury' is your perception, maybe you love fake wooden old man interiors, and see that as 'luxury', I wasn't just talking about opinions and preferences, I was talking the whole vehicle and it's parts too. Your opinion the AMG couldn't be utilised on public roads therefore the Jaguar is a better daily driver is crap. You are saying, just because you can't drive a powerful RWD sports variation to it's true potential on the road, then it must mean a lesser handling car is better, you're ridiculous and silly. I'm talking from both facts from years of surveys, and also from personal experience of working in the motor trade for years, and I'd say that counts a LOT more as a valid opinion than your fanboy bullsheet. As for my 'entry level' BMW, I think my OG M2 is worth more, and is MUCH more desirable than your car, and held in much higher esteem for handling and drivability, and also FUN.
@@DjNikGnashers Oh dear, hahaha. Yes, you are indeed very very very strange. I think you need to go back and read my original comment again, and understand it's context. I've never owned a Mercedes or a Jaguar, these were my fathers vehicles, which are no longer in the family (he also once owned a E36 M3 3.2L, very unreliable btw). I was only commenting based on the duration of his ownership, nothing more. I never claimed Jaguar's were reliable vehicles, and wouldn't do so. I'm not a fanboy of any car brand. The ride in the C63 AMG S is the worst ride I've ever experienced, and that was in comfort mode. I don't think it was expectable, even for an AMG. Says a lot that the later models were released with revised suspension that was much more compliant. The XF had real wood. The leather in the Jaguar was higher quality, and there was more of it. The plastics looked and felt nicer, everywhere. The controls and buttons were nicer to use, and felt higher quality. Particular the sound system in the Jaguar was miles better than the AMG. The cabin was more quiet as well. The Jaguar interior was easily the nicer place to spend time, more luxurious, but yes the AMG was more fun! I don't believe how well a car handles and how fast is goes, makes for a better vehicle overall. Particularly if used for the daily commute. I'd prefer to keep my drivers licence personally. Driving like the public road is a racetrack, is pretty anti-social. The C63 AMG S could be doing 100km/h in 4 seconds, not a useful feature in traffic. I don't think you need a mountain of power to have fun, having personal previously owned a Polo GTI and i20N, where your able to use all of the power more of the time. I also worked in the Automotive industry for 5 years, with a multi-franchise dealership in the fleet department. I sampled MANY different brands of vehicles, and if you want to talk about powerful RWD vehicles, we sold Ford Performance Vehicles (FPV). Lastly, weird comment to make about "my car", when you don't even know what it is. BMW 1/2 series, is entry level BMW. At the time of purchasing my current vehicle, I could have easily purchased a nice OG M2 for less money if desired, and I also did seriously consider purchasing a new 128ti. By the way, I'm well aware of how special that model of M2 is, but it's not something that personally interests me. Speaking of which, I currently own a Cupra Formentor VZx (and looking into adding a Honda S660 in 2024), which doesn't really mold well for most of your arguments I think. Go on, tell me how crap my car is if you like! This is entertaining! 😄
I owned a 2009 4.2L SV8 in the Middle East. Fantastic car. Blew a tire at 190km/hr on the Dubai outer bypass road down to Jebel Ali and the car tracked dead straight to a stop (once all the electronics kicked in).
Generally I would agree that Ian Callum does a good job but the X351 XJ would have to be one of the worst looking large saloons ever. It's bizarre how he was able to design such a disaster when the rest of his work is brilliant.
The V8 is what I’m after. I own Lexus and nobody beats them regarding the older LS 430. But the design on this. f Luxury V8 is wonderful. Thankyou Mr Aussie man. Appreciate honesty. I still may buy if it’s had good maintenance.
I struggle with this video. I've owned 3 XFs - two first gen, a 3.0 V6 petrol and the 4.2 SV8 - and then the second gen 3.0 supercharged V6. I had to have a radiator flush on the SV8 (it had a poor service history prior to my ownership so I forgive it that) but, that aside, I've had no issues at all with my XFs. Easily the most reliable cars I've ever owned. Diesels are a different matter and, by all accounts, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. But petrols? Pretty solid.
My local dealer has one of these on their lot and it looks super. Thanks for pointing out the issues with this car. No way I will ever purchase one of these.
Bought my XF Sportbrake 3L V6 2014 model two and half years ago as a six month stop gap!!!. My normal cars were up to that point A6 Quatro,A5,A4, BMW, Mercs etc and this Jag was cheap and available, I have to say its been one of the best cars I have owned. I was shocked as I expected poor quality but it now has 172,000 miles on the clock and no issues and beats the GmbH equivalents with ease in so many ways. I get 60 mpg (=50 USA Mpg) with Cruise control set at 65, if I'm at 50mph its hit 71 mpg (=60 USA mpg).
Back here, the XF is a little infra-dig, for the average Jaguar enthusiast - I for example have an XJ portfolio JLWB. It has done nearly 50,000 miles, & I have hardly spent anything apart from the usual wear & tear + a new cam-belt at 45,0000 just for the extra confidence. The last two MOTSs have passed with no advisories. There is one thing to be said fore the XJ - it’s extra length and comfort make it look a lot sleeker & give you ridiculous luxury e.g. massage seats etc.
I have had 4 xfs over the last 17 years and haven’t had a single issue unlike friends with German cars. They also drive way, way , way better than a lexus which is basically saying you have given up on life
Mines a 2010 xf s portfolio 3 litre twin turbo diesel . Has the black carbon fibre interior rather than the horrible wood . Ages much better . Had my share of niggles , but its 14 years old with 120 thousand miles under its belt so i take it in my stride . I do what i can myself , for example that horrible little connector in the top of the fuel tank that stops your fuel gauge working and the car to run like shit . Simple fix thanks to a little googling . Still love the car and will be sad to part with her .
I purchased a 2015 2.0 l I'm an over the road truck driver trying to rebuild my credit the car was super cheap 16k with 75 miles it won't be driven much and sell probably after 1yr but definitely this car is sexy
in the uk i love my 2011 pre facelift 3.0d xfs portfolio with de cat and remap to 340bhp black on black 150.000 miles and does not miss a beat had it 5 years paid £5000 for it only put upgraded breaks and disks all round on it it cost £200 its only cost me £500 in service and upgrades in 6 years parts are dirt cheap
I bought my first XF 3.0 V6 PETROL on 18th June 2024 with 25632miles on the clock. By far, it's very reliable and I'm loving it here in the UK. But, it really drink lot of fuel😂...I'm enduring it anyway because it's a v6. Highly recommend
The early 3 litre petrol was a Jaguar tweaked version of the Ford Duratec engine and very reliable. I've owned an S type for a few years with no problems and in my opinion take the gamble - definitely worth it!
My turbo failed for no reason. That also lead to a certain noise at lower speed. That is probably a tapit noise. Overall, until now I am still enjoying.
I have a 2010 xf with a 4.2 v8 . It has 198,000 plus miles on it and the engine still purrs and sounds better than a 2024 Benz and it still runs strong
As you do address reliability & cost & then say about those who are prepared for it in the name of emotion, when you mention Jaaaaaaag vs BMW, Audi & Mercedes, you need to add the other....... Maserati! The ultimate heart over head purchase.
They really are a great looking car and the interior looks like a cigar lounge. A high spec 2014-15 mazda 6 would also be a more sensible alternative. Can I request a volvo S60 review the 2012-17 T5 and T6. Yes I'm a sucker for terrible cars that have personality.
Cant compare mazda 6 to jag xf...yes i do agree mazda is a nice motor but never can live up to jaguar...just a different class altogether , if there was 3.0d almost 300hp and Rwd option of Mazda then i would consider 😅
@@lukasznowak8873 I really wish Mazda did make the 6 rwd! As much as I know it's not sensible I could be very easily tempted to throw caution to the wind if a reasonable 4.2 XF came up on the market.
Which is exactly what happened to my 2012 XF S diesel. Washer pump leaked and wicked fluid into the body control module connector, and then the power line to the brake pedal switch corroded off.
In 2014 my wife and I looked at a new XF S sport with 3 litre twin turbo diesel. We almost bought it but, the salesman was one of the rudest people I have every met - and not punched in the mouth. Anyway, it looks like he did us a favour and we bought a Lexus IS 350 F sport which we still have and I'm happy to say it has not missed a beat. I can honestly say though, the Jaguar is one good looking car.
King off the road mine is the 3.0d 190k on her still going Beautiful brilliant machine ive had bmws and Mercedes never buy anything again only a jaggg. Beautiful machines 💙
I used to think these were a much sexier looking Falcon fg...They sound incredible with V8 and the XFR-S is nuts... I like cars from the Euro/Jap/Korean/US market... (The Lexus LFA is one of my all time favourite cars) Everyone that says get a Lexus...The reason more people don't buy the IS series is because they look like a Camry with an upgraded grill and sleeker lights...The interior is fantastic 👌...Just my opinion...But I want to feel alive when I am driving and my favourite sedan would be an Alfa Giulia GTA...
The sound ! I dropped into a local gas station with my xf 4.2 v8 gasoline ,with custom exhaust and the attendant ran inside to get his co-worker " Come listen to this car !" .
Owned one for a year and the engine blew. Completely my fault the dealer said get an oil change every 5k miles and I asked a shop to do it after 10k and they didn’t do it blew a few weeks later. Overall though if you take care of it this car really will treat you well. Only cheap mechanical issues that in most cases you can do yourself but i only had a couple.
No thankyou, im extacticly happy with my x350 4.2 v8 no major issues in 4 years it is beautiful to drive and easy on my eye, i recently tried out a 2015 xf 3ltr petrol for a day, it was great! and i could afford it but there was just something lacking? It felt so good to get back into my 350 again, like coming home to a beautiful home, she just felt right, not everyone's cuppa but out of all the cars in this class ive tried out (out of sheer curiosity😂) my old girl has just got that something, im saving my money and if i need to spend it on "JJ" ill do that before i go buying something else, my verdict is im very happy with what ive got, she has everything i could possibly want and more and she still looks very sexy in her BRG! 😋❤
In my part of the US a 2009 Jaguar XF with 70-90,000 miles can be purchased for under $5,000. Any Toyota, Honda or Lexus will be much more money - For example a 2003 Lexus ES300 with 150,000 miles will most likely be listed at $7,000
I'm moving the France to live but first going to the UK to pick up a car. First I was looking for a Range Rover with the Jag V8 Yes I know what your going to say, I've own a Discovery and I know how expensive it to fix but that's because it's Australia ! Where all car mechanics assume that you are rich because you own a Land Rover car,so they charge you immensely! But in the UK there are parts galore and basically every UK mechanic can fix them and not charge you big bucks ! Then while looking for cars over there I discovered the Jag XF OMG ! What a beautiful car inside and out and you can pick many up for $5000-9000 AUD unlike here where they sell between $15,000-20,000 ! These cars can easily tow a english caravan and I will buying one of these as well,you can pick up a decent 4-5 berth for only $3000 AUD So I will be spending just under $10,000 AUD for a Jag and caravan try and do that here in the Land of the Buck Australia !
Interesting. Got a 2014 XF 3.0 V6 TDI sportbrake. Bought at 45kms and now got 190kms on it, seven years later. Only issue has been when I changed the battery and easily solved using an Autologic scan tool. Do long trips, like 650kms in a day, 5.6-7.0l/100kms. Goes and handles really well. I hear all the issues but I am convinced, long trips, drive it like you stole it and it should be good. Like any good car, if you can't afford the bits, don't buy it. The best car I've had and I've had GT W12, Mercs, BMW, Mitsi, Lotus blah blah. If you get a good one, brilliant. If you get a Friday arvo one, opps!! For me, I love it, but like all modern cars, electrics are a bastard. Next car? A classic with no 'kin electrics!!
I really like the XF. The video certainly brings it down the right question. Are you prepared to put with the faults and dramas? Jaguars really gorgeous cars but are a commitment.
It's funny how some videos can really hook you - when I first saw Top Gear's XFR review, I was smitten. Though it was out of my price range to buy new, I had to test drive one and was hooked by that engine. Sadly the rest of the driving experience didn't quite do it for me, though I do wish I had the chance to try the facelifted version, or even better, the XFR-S.
Bloody fantastic video mate! Personally I prefer the early, round headlight, model cars as you have n the video. If you think those buttons are poor I'd say the rubbery "bean counter enhanced" versions are worse in that they give a low quality feel
The unreliability of these cars is totally over played. It's no less reliable than any other car in this bracket. The 2.2d for example is a very very good engine.
I watched a few of his videos and He likes to diss Jaguars, and like you say the unreliability is over played and I've had worse issues with a B.M.W. I've had an XF an XJ and an F Pace cracking cars, so much so I'm now onto an XE.
Your mechanic was correct - the Ford engineed variety are often looked at here, as Jaguar badged Mondeos. I should think that from what I experienced of the Australian climate; I don’t think European cars reall take this into account. And yes, the electricalsc issue is just as much a problem with any modern cars. As I said, I went instead for the XJ Portfolio, but as you recommended, buying a heavily depreciated luxury vehicle requires a reserve of funds for any maintenance issues that will come up. Over here, they are a a lot less expensive than in Australia - but & and it’s a big one; you would need to have pretty deep pockets if you were going to buy the modes with supercharged V8 engines. Mine does a reasonable 36 - 50mpg on the road, depending on how I drive it, having twin turbo 3 litre v6 gives me just under 300bhp. Because since the XJ 350 models were introduced, the all aluminium body means that it’s not as heavy as it looks & it will hit 60mph in a shade under 6 seconds, which isn’t bad for a four door luxury car - on the roof lining is suede leather - but I don’t like those pop-up selectors! Any you’re right if in Australia, buy a Lexus.
The "Jaguar badged Mondeo" has always been the S-type, because that's exactly what it was - a Jaguar built on the Mondeo platform. The XF is completely new from the ground up, nothing to do with the Mondeo at all.
Haha, the comparison of the XF interior to Helen Mirren is perfect! That is an indelible comparison, and rather apropos. Actually, I don't think the XF interior looks aged, but is always attractive, straightforward without pretensions, and absolutely timeless....just like Helen Mirren!
My Dad has the 2015 XF 3.0 litre Diesel with about 150k on the clock. It's a fabulous car! Barely any issues to speak of, extremely comfortable and that engine is just brilliant. Heaps of power for a fang out in the country and gets 1000km to a tank. I've told him It's mine when he upgrades next. 🤞
good for u
I’ve got too , 240k same deal. Good mechanic, regularly servicing.
Had an XF 2013 3.0 D V6 Portfolio for two years and never had a single issue with it. Bought with 92k miles (148K km) with good history and it never missed a beat with me doing 500 miles a week.
Great car with a lot of character and really moves when you want it to.
I have a 2008 XF 3.0 NA with 61k km on it. Never had an issue with it but then again, I regularly get it serviced. The one issue I do have is with the chrome window trim. It has gone milky and I remedied this by getting it wrapped. Now it just looks incredible. Still very sharp and sexy for a 15 year old car. I highly recommend this car!
Lots of folks here talking about experiences have actually never owned a jag.
If ever my XF needs to be replaced, I'm opting for another Jag. My first one has gotten me hooked. It's sad that Jag is moving away from building coupe and sedans though. I think I will stick with used and never experience being an owner of a new Jag.
Definitely a heart over head choice. I've owned a 2013 XF for four years and counting. Love it!
If it was horribly neglected, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
If it was greatly looked after, I'll put it in my bucket list as my next purchase.
I have a 2013 XF 3.0 liter AWD with all the bells and whistles. No major issues at all. Love the car.
My XF is currently on 160K miles and drives fantastic. The key factor is that I purchased with full service history. Just like any car, if well maintained it will stick by you. Fantastic to drive. Great car!!
I had a RR vogue SE, I struggled to find a replacement, then after 6 months I found the XF Sportbrake with the Portfolio spec, it was 4 years old and after 5 minutes of driving it I loved it. I have had it 4 years the 2.2 is pretty bullet proof, as for leaks, none seen, ok the door actuator went. I have one of the lowest powered smaller engines, I find it ideal. This is my first Jag, I can’t imagine going to another Marque, I love it. A lot say on paper the BMW 5 series is a better car, but they still prefer the Jag.
And MANY MORE actually buy the BMW 5 series because it IS a MUCH better car in every way, and love it.
Facts from reliability surveys show Jaguar and Range Rover are by FAR the most unreliable vehicles on the road. Jaguars lag behind BMW and the other competitors in every area, from handling, performance, fuel efficiency quality, etc.
People who buy Jaguars are doing it with the hearts, because they think they are buying into that 'British' image and history (even though modern Jaguars are made by Tata an Indian company), people who buy BMW are doing it with their heads, because it is by far the much better car in every way.
For a DIYer, best car around. Cheap af to buy, cheap to maintain if you do it yourself. When it comes to comfort and that sort of stuff, one of the best cars ever built. I got mine for 4000 euros and it nearly has 450000km, perfect.
I have had two XF's, both 3ltr diesels, never had a problem with either. My first was written off in a rear end crunch. My insurers gave me a new BMW 2ltr petrol M sport. I hated it with a vengeance, found it bland in comparison to the Jag. Now in an XJ Portfolio for the past four years and still love it!
I think you're a jag man and rightly so 😂
I had a 3 litre "S" diesel from new (2009), for 9 years 96,000 on the clock when i sold it and apart from 2 new batteries in that period, tyres and regular servicing, never any problems. One of the best cars I have ever owned. (and surprisingly quick in the "S" form).
Mine is a 2010 model, same engine, no problems at all. I'm a member of 3 different Jag forums and have never heard most of those supposed issues ever come up.
I refuse to believe that people who can make such a good car, can't make it last. I suspect the lack of reliability is by design and it's the same with all those fancy Euro cars. I mean, plastic water pump, etc...
Planned obsolescence!
Exactly. And why they should be ignored.
Some plastics are very good. A shame they make nasty stuff which could be much better in plastic.
No
There are loads of old ones left on the road
I've owned a 2010 3.0D XF S 275 Premium Luxury for three years now, bought with just one previous owner and 42k miles on the clock. I paid such a low price for it I was able to afford to get the cambelt and pumps changed and the gearbox serviced as soon as I bought it. Love the shape and interior styling, classic and modern simultaneously. Lots of features that were ahead of its time when launched. Also, 'look after your car, she'll look after you' is my mantra for faultless performance and motoring. This cat loves long journeys and positively purrs all the way. And, no, parts aren't necessarily expensive to come by if you do need them - certainly not in the UK. But, my mantra is to keep on top of maintenance (as with any vehicle), deal with any niggles before they become actual issues; rigorously change the oil and filter every 6k miles, occasionally use Wynn's diesel power 7 on a long run to give the engine and other components a spring clean, and only use Shell V-Power diesel fuel. Join the Jag forums so you can learn from others' experiences of the vehicle [and also to learn to check for potential common faults, to ensure you're not going to experience them]. Compared to my previous ultra modern vehicle, I'm now 50% more fuel efficient, carbon offset the fuel I do use and intend to run this Jag until I'm forced by law to no longer have an ICE vehicle - though, hopefully before then, we'll be able to fill with diesel replacement fuel directly.
Hi Jon, have also just bought a 2010 3.0D Premium Luxury. Only 46k on the clock (Isle of man owner). it goes in for full service and timing belt change Friday. Just wondered about your mention of the gearbox being serviced, is this recommended? Also do you have plans to change the infotainment system or is it already upgraded? Thinking of getting this done. So far loving this car.
@@simac8640I have the 2010 XFS 3 TD here in Australia, there was a South African guy who did videos on upgrades to Android auto etc. let me know how you go
Hi I've cheated and got a 10 quid bluetooth aux connector :-) lets me play my moby through it now, all I need really. I might get round to totally replacing the system when I have a word with the local car audio guy in town though..once i've recovered from the cam-belt, fuel belt servicing bill!..@@tonybooth4
Have my jaguar xf portfolio for 6 years , absolutely no problems , never let me down, looks snd drives beautifully. Love it!
Classy choice 👍.
I have a 2011 supercharged 5.0...it absolutely rips yet is a smooth quiet ride. The front end style is outdated but from the back it resembles a modern Tesla. I would recommend it to someone who doesn't want to look too flashy but still have the power to put most modern sport cars to shame.
The bottom end failure claims are not true for the 3.0 V6.
The 2.7 V6 is the bearing spinner.
Most of the electronic failures are due to the looms, a boot loom is £150 and takes 20 mins to swap, the overhead interior lights just need a clean and regrease on the contacts to fix, takes 30mins and cost less than a fiver!
I own a 2010 3.0 TDV6 and it’s glorious, it’s age is hidden by the Black exterior and Black interior.
Servicing is key to reliability. I change my oil every year and I do less than 6,000 miles a year.
The belts are an expensive job but a good local tech did mine for £700 and I’ll probably never have to do them again, it gets 35-55mpg and goes like a scalded cat.
Most people won’t buy em and that’s fine with me cos with a little knowledge and a little work these are fantastic cars.
Keep the prices low by slagging them off so is that know how to look after a car can enjoy our XFs a little cheaper to buy 😉
As always great video guys. I will say this again & again, reliability is mostly down to how the owners treat their vehicles. If they service them & cherish them & spend money as it needs it without compromising they will last a long time. As soon as you start to skip services or save a few dollars on running costs then it will go down hill very fast. As a reputable mechanic myself I find it very frustrating when customers try & put off maintenance to save $$. You have to spend money to keep your vehicle in good condition otherwise it will cost you a lot more later when something does go badly wrong.
could not agree more, by the way it's my car being shown on this video.
@@karlfarrugia1204 well I admire how well you presented your car.
@@anakinskywalker4113 thanks mate appreciate that
I'm in total agreement here. People buy used euro for the 'look at me' factor and either can't afford or don't understand maintenance. Two mechanics I knew in my NZ home town liked euro cars and one was adamant that BMW electronics were the best to deal with and the other that you have to know how to work on them and where/whom to get parts. Neither were dealers but specialist mechanics.
A mate who is a Holden mechanic swears people off Captiva and Cruise but also consistently comes across other mechanics work or DIY that he has to fix because he knows all the tips.
I have owned my 2011 XF 3.0 D for 11 years now and love it. A few things have gone wrong but have been rectified with a little expense as with all cars. The car still feels new and the paint work is excellent. My car has done 54.000klm in its lifetime. The claret paintwork is amazing and was only produced for 2 years. A beautiful car. Make sure you see the regular service records to help you decide on one. I don't think you would regret it. You also need a mechanic who knows Jaguars and check with them before purchase.
400.000 km and still strong. No issues, nothing. No oil consumption. just keeps going. And this is the S type..
Yes, that's my choice of Jag ...
Love mine, 8 years and up to 160,000 miles still going strong
I have an S-type and no way I'm ever changing it for an XF...
@@mariopizzamanmario8563the xf is superior to the s type in every single case.
He means the Jaguar XF S…….
If I was being sensible and needed a reliable daily, Lexus. But a part of me just says buy the jag and put a barra in it.
I have owned an XFR for over 10 years. Fantastic car. All of these recommendations are good. There are a bunches of items you missed. starting with:
1. Coolant pipe crossover in the behind the supercharger needs to be added to the list of plastic coolant pipes to replace; fortunately they make all metal coolant/xover/thermostat for the 5.0L S/C now aftermarket. The OEM ones will continue to fail every 50k miles until you replace with metal. Make sure the rear crossover pipe in metal has the two screw flange not the 3 screw flange because the 3 goes to the V6.
2. The coolant tank has a internal sensor and pressure cap that can go bad and the tank itself can fail with the plastic hoses. Replace the whole tank and cap and hoses.
3. The black coolant bleeder screws on the top left of the engine bay by the fuse cover are $#!* plastic and get soft over time and can spring a leak that will definitely strand you on the road. There are some brass ones for $6 at any auto parts store that you can get for a lot of other cars like BMW's that will replace them forever.
4. Also the Engine/Transmission mounts need changing at this age along with the all the suspension bushings.
5. The transmission has a rectangle plastic seal called a mechatronic seal that you can buy a billet aluminum one to replace it with online; that when broken will make the transmission have a hard 2-1 shift that lunges the car coming to a stop. Replacing it with another OEM plastic one will still crack again and again and again until you replace it with a metal one.
6. You have to replace the transmission oil with ZF Lifeguard 6 fluid only and filter every 50K miles or your trans will start to lunch itself. Other types of fluid will cause malfunctions. Replace the paper clutches with metal ones. Refurb the Valve body with new solenoids.
7. Replace the diff oil every 50K as well.
8. There is a plastic breather valve on the diff that can clog and cause problems with its operation. Clean/Replace it.
9. The stock Fuel Direct Injectors need changing every 100k miles because they will fail from high heat and pressure over time and you want to run a fuel lubrication cleaner like lucas oil through them at least one a quarter to keep them tip top. Also make sure the replacement injectors are Bosch or OEM. Knockoffs are terrible quality and will fail and blow the engine.
10. The fuel pump fuel filter housing has some bad connector that will short out and cause starting problems that needs replacing every 100k. Its under the passenger rear seat. Look inside the connector, if there are burn marks in there, yours is bad.
11. The O2 sensors need replacing every 100k or you can start to get check engine codes. There are 4, two upstream and two downstream. Make sure they are Denso or Bosch or OEM brand, the knockoffs cause more problems.
12. Same for the two MAF sensors. They need to be Denso or OEM only and replaced every 100k.
13. I have heard the shock tower mounts can fail. Replace with OEM.
14. The rubber center driveshaft mount can fail causing drive-line vibration and also the rubber flex coupler isolators connecting the shaft to the diff and to the trans to the shaft get brittle over time and will fail.
15. Change Supercharger oil possibly add a S/C venom cooler from stagemeyer. While the supercharger is off, insulate the bottom of it with aspen aerogel from the engine heat and add a ePTFE spacer with water injection ports.
16. If your car was not driven hard or lots of short trips it has probably carbon buildup from DI and needs walnut blasting inside the intake.
17. EGR Blockoff plate and baffled oil catch can to prevent carbon buildup in future.
18. Make sure the tensioners are upgraded metal OEM ones. The early stock ones are plastic.
19. Divorce the intercooler setup from the radiator coolant and use separate tank and inter-chiller. This will allow the heat soak to not build up as fast. My intake air temps can get high here in FL. 180 degree+! stock normal IAT is around 147 degrees. Imagine getting this down to ambient.
These things go for any XFR, F-Type, XJR, F-Pace, Range Rover 5.0L S/C variants.
I own a 2012 Jaguar XF, with the naturally aspirated 5 litre engine. I absolutely love this car. If I can keep it running, without bankrupting myself, I am going to drive it until I can no longer drive. Really love the engine note....worth the price of entry. Tried Mercedes, Audi, and BMW but found they lacked soul. Problems to date have been a short in the wiring harness, that controls the rear camera, two water pumps, and the associated plastic plumbing (which are junk), Beyond basic maintenance, once a year, that has been it. Compared to the Audi 5000 and Lincoln Continental that I previously owned, this car has been far more reliable.
I bought an XF 2012 2.2 Diesel in Nov 2012 still runs like new with no problems, other than sticky buttons which is a common problem in cars of that era including BMW Merc etc. Serviced it every 12 months done 78000 kms. Just traded it for a BMW iX EV.
I have ownd a Lexus IS 350 F sport 2014 from new.
Nothing, absolutely nothing has ever failed.
Great car, luxurious, comfortable, handles incredibly well you could not get a better car
......and? this video is about the xf
the what goes wrong section is hilarious in this one, insane !!
Have owned xf 3.0d for good few years, looking after it its at 180k miles at the moment and its the best car i ever had , dont want to sell it ever and if have to get rid i will buy another one of them or mercedes cls...
I have the exact same color and interior trim here in the south of England. Has been trouble free other than the gear selector needing a refurb once. The drive is superb and the 3L V6 twin turbo diesel is smooth and scarily fast !! Its a 2009 model with 93k miles on the clock but I am worried an upgrade to a BMW or Merc later will not be this satisfying !!
I have a 2009 XF with the V-8. It just turned over 100,000 relatively trouble free miles. I did have to replace the plastic radiator overflow tank. It is very fast and corners extremely well.
My father in law left my wife a 2010 and the pressure equalizer for the tires is the only thing giving it an issue
I'm in UK and I have XF-S Premium Luxury V6 3.0 Diesel from 2009, same colour like in the vid but with black interior. Love it ! Wouldn't give it away now. Only issue had with it was a DPF and now a front lower forward wishbone arm bushes. I have it for 2.5 years and it made 125k miles already. Love that car
15:58 Thanks for the fun fact Jim! I've searched for pictures of "Jaguar AJ126 engine block" and I can say that they made my day. Cheers!
I have owned a 2000 Jaguar XJ8 for now going 24 years. No major issues,
This car broke my heart. Such a lovely place to sit and the drive was wonderful, but it was just issue after issue. Biggest problem I had was that the wheels were prone to cracking. Watch out for this, especially if you opt for an example with large alloys.
Of the 8 jags I have had. Not 1 alloy cracked.
@@S-u-p-a did you own any long enough to have that happen hahahaa
Good review. I have a SVR from 2009. Yes there have been a few expensive problems...but over 12 years I may have spent $30k in servicing and fixes. When you think I bought this for $110k (was $220k brand new), its been a great pleasure to drive. Another thing is that I got a trade in value last year of $7k...yes just $7k. Forget it I will drive this until its end. cheers
7 grand is an insult, like you said just drive it into the ground until it just stops going. Thats what I have done with my 90s Mercs.
got one over two years ago. love it. but at 63 it is my 9th jag. got the 1st one (xj12) at 21. better looking than any other car.
Jag should be giving you the next one , for that loyalty...
I have been driving an Jaguar XF 3.0D 75th anniversary everyday for the last 2 years and so far it's been decent in reliability.
The biggest issue with this model in my opinion is the electronics.
On my car the infotainment reboots randomly, the led on my rpm needle is flashing and weaker in brightness and the overhead light sometimes turn on and off by itself.
Atleast Jaguar made the modules plug and play so if you get issues with them on your car you can just buy a used part and replace them quite easily and quickly.
The bluetooth module is known for causing issues with the infotainment because of water damage/corrosion.
I think a bypass loop is the best way to deal with it because the module is so old and you don't lose much functionality.
I have also seen that some companies have started selling a complete replacement for the entire infotainment system for the Jaguar XF.
It gives the car modern connectivity options along with a much bigger touchscreen and it controls everything the original one does, adds support for other higher quality backup cameras and will work with the built in buttons is the steering wheel.
Since these infotainment systems basically are android devices that are modified to interact perfectly with the Jaguar XF they could be had for a very reasonable price.
My car starts and drives perfectly fine everyday even in the winter when it was -30 degrees outside for many weeks.
I had mine at the EU control a few days ago and the only repairs required was a single wheel bearing and 1 of the bulbs by the license plate was not lighting up.
Which is not bad at all.
I bought a 2013 XFS D sportbrake in portfolio trim in the uk.
This has way more character than a BMW, Merc or Audi hence why I chose it.
I really wanted the sunroof but opted out in the end for the exact reasons in this video. Also with the gear selector if it fails to rise usually means moisture has got in there either someone spilt a drink at some point someone with wet hands or got in the car wet and got water over the controls. There’s a circuit board right under there for the button panel near the gear selector, really stupid place!
Also the water wicking issue with the washer bottle is more common in the facelifted versions and tends to come from the headlamp washer pump.
'Character' is not a measureable factor, so to say one car brand 'has more character' than another is absolute bullsheet.
You think you are being smug by buying into the British image, yet Jaguar is owned by Tata an Indian company.
Many MANY more people buy cars based on facts, reliability surveys, and handling, performance, efficiency, and quality advantages, and that is why many MANY more people buy BMW's.
Your unreliable, ugly, boat-handling, oil-burning, heap of blandness, doesn't even come close to the character of my BMW M2, and it most certainly doesn't come close in handling, reliability, performance, and quality.
Have a 2011 XF V8. Garage kept and drive every once in a while on weekend. Drained wiper fluid tank and will keep it empty due to possible issue it can cause. Dome light comes on randomly 👻. Passenger window will roll down randomly when trying to roll up. Serviced regularly and no other issues.
I just purchased a 2014 xf in August this year, and so far so good. I love my car. I do have a warranty, but watching this video scares me. However, when I purchased this car it had 93,000 miles.
Like Adam said.
There is another option 😏
I have owned a 2012 Lexus GS350 for the last 7 years. It just clocked 248,000kms last week and, aside from general wear and tear, it has not given me ANY trouble at all.
I had a 2005 Lexus GS300 for a 3yrs before my current one and it didn’t give me a single issue either.
I do truly love the XF. In 2008 when they came out, I’d drool and hoped to someday own one.
But just like with luxury watches; the Japanese tend to do a far more reliable and often product, for far less $.
I love my GS 🖤
The other people here are mad praising their Jaguars.
I'd have the Lexus anyday
I love my 2013 Jaguar XF. And also love my Omega Seamaster 300m. Both gorgeous and fairly reliable.
@@azcarter4389 Why is it mad to praise your Jaguar when it has been perfectly reliable and a great car all round? A friend of mine bought the GS at the same time, same year and it's a nice car but utterly boring comparted to the Jag. I'd stick with the Jag any day, all that stuff about what goes wrong is garbage.
@@severnsea I don't know man, I just say things. I don't think you're mad to praise any car that you enjoy really. Everyone has their own taste.
I disagree with that the stuff about reliability being garbage though.
I know someone who has had many problems with his XFR Jag and quite expensive and long turn around fixes aswell. Some models are worse than others the XFR being one of the worst, but statistically speaking an XF late 2000's jag vs a Lexus GS of similar vintage are in 2 different ball parks. One has engine/transmission combinations of some of the most reliable ever produced (Lexus) and the other simply doesn't and doesn't normally bode well in reliability surveys.
I'm happy for you that you've had a great experience, but keep it another 10 years and get back to me.
@@azcarter4389 Odd that, on the owners forums the XFR is the most recommended. It's the diesels that seem to be problematic because of the DPF filters, but most cars have DPF issues because they're not fit for purpose - the stop the engine from breathing which is the opposite of what it needs. I can't disagree with the Lexus having a good reputation but they just so boring to drive, they don't have the character that the Jag has. Maybe it's because they're not as popular in the UK, but you don't see many older Lexus around. There are probably more pre-2000 Jags than anything as they are popular with enthusiasts, but that's because they are a British car. But most of the unreliability reports come from the older models. People read about them being unreliable and assume that applies to the current ones too. In 2010 the XF actually came top in the JD Power survey so they can't be that bad!
Owned a 2015 XF Premium Luxury with the 3 ltr supercharged. I loved the car. My favorite, it was lovely inside and out, and drove amazingly well. Engine replaced at 30k, and aircon compressor about 2 months later. Jaguar covered the engine,I paid for the compressor. So yeah. Favorite car I've ever owned, and lived up to its reputation. Still miss it.
@b.schmidt3701 Yet it can happen to any car. I know people with Kia's with less mileage than that which are on their third engine.
New engine at 30K...says a lot. I once viewed an S-type which was 5 ys old and then the seller told me that the engine already replaced 56k miles. Jinxed it all.
Of course, my brother bought a 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee and at 4400 km the engine has crapped out and has been sitting for a month at a dealer awaiting availability of a new engine. So Jag isn't alone with serious quality issues. At least the Jag would happily wag it's tail with a liberal application of throttle... if I had to choose between crappy cars, the Jag still wins.
@@mickadatwist1620 It doesn't say anything, there are countless XFs around that have covered 5 times that distance. Mine has covered 64000 miles and drives like new. It depends how it was looked after for one thing. I've heard of everything from Ford, BMW, Mercedes and countless others that have had new engines after just a few thousand miles. One of the Kia models is reported as having engine seizures after 10,000 miles and one owner reported having to get a new engine installed for the third time at 16,000 miles.
Part of the problem these days is they are so finely tuned to meet emissions standards, if they are not looked after they soon start to deteriorate but the vast majority of drivers don't do anything until it's too late, and those that do use the cheapest oil they can use and so on. Howe many women do you know who check their oil regularly, or at all?
I have a 2011 XF 3.0 Diesel turbo from new and done over 150k miles. NO MAJOR PROBLEMS at all. Usual regular services. Replaced a leaky coolant expansion bottle at 130k and at the same time replaced the pump an the rubbers and seals just to be on the safe side. Timing belt changed at 140k. Recently replaced the boot cable and Bluetooth card under the passenger seat. 12 years of safe and reliable driving. I recently bought a Tesla but still kept and love my XF.
About that shifter: Land Rovers and Range Rovers used that shifter for most of the 2010s, especially the facelift L322 and the LR4s when they got the 8 speed automatic transmission. I'm not sure if they still use it currently though.
I’ve had two 3-litre XFs over 9 years. Beautiful cars and never had a problem other than a sticky fuel filler cap on the first one (fixed very quickly). I loved the rotating air vents and the rotary gear knob. The engines and transmissions were divine. Only made a change because I wanted an F-Pace. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them.
I bought a 2016 Jaguar XF Prestige in Hawaii in July of 2019. I loved it at the beginning. The first problem I had was the rims were 19" and scared up so I did lots of research and found the rim and tires I wanted. There were 18" and the tires I wanted came in the correct size. I bought the rims and made my appointment at Jaguar of Honolulu. When I took the car in they told me that they can not swap out the rims because I did not buy them from their dealership (The ONLY Jaguar dealership in Hawaii). I explained that I spent $2,000 US dollars on the rims and basically begged them, but they were firm and did not do the work. I took my Jag to GoodYear in Pearl City and begged them to switch the TPS sensors from the old rims to the new rims and do a wheel alignment. They agreed to switch the TPS sensors but told me they can not do work on Jaguars (At all not even oil changes). In fact, I quickly learned that no shops of any kind will do any work on a Jaguar (Fast Lube, Jiffy Lube, No one will do oil changes). Jaguar of Honolulu charges about $900.00 to service the car and do an oil change (information I found out after I was already STUCK with the car). I scheduled another appt with Jaguar to do the wheel alignment and fix the doors which were suddenly not locking anymore. At the appt I was told that the reason my doors stopped locking was the door actuators went bad. They replaced them on (2) doors and I paid the $2,000 bill making my Jaguar start to leave a dent in my wallet. This brings my investment to over $4,000 dollars plus the (4) new tires and I just bought the car! I should also say that I bought the car with 25,000 miles just for complete understanding. Door locks should not be breaking at 25k miles. That is insane!!!! Ok, so after paying the bill I walk out to my car and there is a huge 5 inch long area of scratches and missing paint at the bottom of one of the doors they fixed. I got so mad it was difficult to contain my rage after the bill I just paid. They did NOT discount the work after admitting they damaged my car. They could not even fix it that day because they had to schedule with an outside vendor for paint repairs. So I had to bring it back in a few weeks. In the meantime every time it rained my doors they started filling up with water or when I washed the car too.!!! At the next appt they (sort of fixed the paint damage). I could tell where they damaged it and they cleaned out the doors so they stopped filling up with water. This bill was no charge (Thank God!!). That was all in the 1st year of ownership. Now fast forward to now in Nov 2023. My Jag started leaking coolant. I made an appointment to Jaguar of Honolulu and the quote for the repair was $7,000 US dollars. I am not even finished making payments on the car and I have only driven the car 28,000 miles since I bought it!!! The Odometer is at 53,000 miles!!!! Explain to me how it has a 7,000 dollar coolant at 53K miles??? I own a 2006 Toyota Tacoma (I am the only owner) with 160,000 miles and only paid for breaks, oil changes, and a couple of battery replacements. How on Earth is Jaguar built so BAD????? I called Subaru and told them my 2016 Jag was in perfect condition and asked them how much they would give me to trade it in and you know what they said? Sorry, we won't take Jaguar for trade-ins. You have to sell it on your own. Are you freaking kidding me here!!!!!! I hate Jaguar and I will never ever have anything good to say about them ever again. I have to find a way to get out of this nightmare car!!!!! Any thoughts???
What a review, a load of crap, l've owned Jags for the last 24 years, after having loads of other marques, l'm now 82, the Jag, is the only car l have continuous bought. I suppose, if you ask everyone in the world as it appears you have done, you will get the type of referrals which seem to go with your BIAS. KEEP SAFE 🙌 Love to Australia 🇦🇺.
I've had my 2013 Jaguar XF for five years. It's been reliable, I had oil changes done at multi-brand service centers and the cam belt replacement at a Jaguar dealership. No worries.
I have had 2 XFs. A 2009 3l V6 diesel and then a 2014 3l V6 diesel sport brake. Absolutely the best cars that I ever owned and would buy another. I was lucky to buy Jaguar used approved. The 2009 had the boot loom fail, real door lock issue and required a new gearbox at 60,000 miles - all fixed under warranted. The 2014 had a door lock issue and when I sold it an oil leak from the rocker cover (jag estimate £1600 to fix). And rear tyres lasted only 10,000 miles.. Fabulous cars, buy one and keep aside a healthy maintenance budget.
How were you driving it? I've had over 16000 miles from the rears on P Zeros (known to be a softer than average tyre), with plenty of tread still left on them.
The best car you have ever owned, yet the boot loom failed, it needed a new gearbox, rear door lock, before 60k lol, oil leaks, rear tyres every 10k ffs.
I owned a BMW for 144,000 miles and all it needed was a crank position sensor and two rear shocks at around 120,000 miles.
You're deluded, or stupid, or both.
we had an XF with the 3.0 diesel, did over 300k miles (480k km), and they can be very reliable. the 2.2 and 3.0 diesels are reliable, the 2.7 diesel is the one that has all the issues mentioned. the petrol V6 and V8s are also pretty tough with timing chain issues being few and far between. electrical issues mentioned also only really affected the early models, so if you get a facelift, it shouldn't affect you. with the facelift you also got much better tech than the prefacelift car in this video, and the creaky interior is somewhat resolved as well.
The 2.7 is the more reliable of the 2 engines 3.0d. the 2.7 does not have the manifold issue the 3.0d does.
Still have an XF-S 3.0d 2014 from new, have covered 100thousand miles and 0 problems apart from basic servicing, take care of it and it’ll take care of you.
*Correction RE V6 petrol normally-aspirated:* The AJ-V6 AJ30 n-a engine is based on the Ford Duratec V6 that was originally a Porsche design. It is a traditional 60 degree V6 design, not a 90 degree V6 derived from a V8.
Rather, it is the supercharged V6, the AJ-V8 AJ126 90 degree V6, which uses the AJ133 V8 engine block with the rear two cylinder bores blanked, and reduced bore sizes.
My old man had a Jaguar XF S Portfolio, god dam that was a nice car! Only issue was the PDF always needing to burn off, which would force the need for a unscheduled long drive. He upgraded to a C63 S AMG after this, and I think the Jaguar was the nicer car!
Nicer ?
How can an unreliable, boat-handling, shitbox Indian made Jaguar be 'nicer' than a luxury, massive performance, great handling, amazing sounding, reliable and desirable Mercedes.
It can't and it isn't, you're talking rubbish.
@@DjNikGnashers What a strange comment, from a seemingly strange individual. lol.
1. It never had a reliability problem (neither did the AMG).
2. It was an S model, and it handled very well, while being dramatically more comfortable over the AMG.
3. The build quality and materials felt and looked better, they just did!
4. It was a UK made model.
5. How can a Jaguar XF not be considered luxury? It felt more "Luxury" compared to the C-Class, and it wasn't really close.
Yeah sure, the AMG V8 sounded far better, and handled well, but nothing that could really be utilised on public roads, making the Jaguar the nicer daily driving experience.
Perhaps instead of basing opinions mainly on the badge, you can save yourself from talking rubbish? Go away and enjoy the "reliability" and "luxury" of your entry model BMW.
@@killertaxi100 Your opinion of a strange comment is valid, as your opinion, but your judgement of my character as 'strange individual' is offensive and based on zero knowledge of me personally, so I think you're best keeping that to yourself.
Everyone can type 'my car was 100% reliable' without any factual back up evidence, it means nothing. The facts are, in every major trusted vehicle reliability survey, Jaguar and RangeRover always have several entries in the most unreliable top 10, every year, for decades. This isn't opinion, it is fact. Just because you were lucky does not mean the vehicle is reliable, it just means yours was and you were lucky.
An S model Jaguar handles ok, and it might have been more confortable and an AMG S, but an AMG S is a sporty variation of the model and is not designed to be comfortable, it is designed to be great handling. All of the road tests of the time, put the AMG S handling way above any Jaguar competitor. Am I to trust dozens of motoring journalists, or one random fanboy on the internet ?
Feeling 'luxury' is your perception, maybe you love fake wooden old man interiors, and see that as 'luxury', I wasn't just talking about opinions and preferences, I was talking the whole vehicle and it's parts too.
Your opinion the AMG couldn't be utilised on public roads therefore the Jaguar is a better daily driver is crap. You are saying, just because you can't drive a powerful RWD sports variation to it's true potential on the road, then it must mean a lesser handling car is better, you're ridiculous and silly.
I'm talking from both facts from years of surveys, and also from personal experience of working in the motor trade for years, and I'd say that counts a LOT more as a valid opinion than your fanboy bullsheet.
As for my 'entry level' BMW, I think my OG M2 is worth more, and is MUCH more desirable than your car, and held in much higher esteem for handling and drivability, and also FUN.
@@DjNikGnashers Oh dear, hahaha. Yes, you are indeed very very very strange. I think you need to go back and read my original comment again, and understand it's context.
I've never owned a Mercedes or a Jaguar, these were my fathers vehicles, which are no longer in the family (he also once owned a E36 M3 3.2L, very unreliable btw). I was only commenting based on the duration of his ownership, nothing more. I never claimed Jaguar's were reliable vehicles, and wouldn't do so. I'm not a fanboy of any car brand.
The ride in the C63 AMG S is the worst ride I've ever experienced, and that was in comfort mode. I don't think it was expectable, even for an AMG. Says a lot that the later models were released with revised suspension that was much more compliant.
The XF had real wood. The leather in the Jaguar was higher quality, and there was more of it. The plastics looked and felt nicer, everywhere. The controls and buttons were nicer to use, and felt higher quality. Particular the sound system in the Jaguar was miles better than the AMG. The cabin was more quiet as well. The Jaguar interior was easily the nicer place to spend time, more luxurious, but yes the AMG was more fun!
I don't believe how well a car handles and how fast is goes, makes for a better vehicle overall. Particularly if used for the daily commute. I'd prefer to keep my drivers licence personally. Driving like the public road is a racetrack, is pretty anti-social. The C63 AMG S could be doing 100km/h in 4 seconds, not a useful feature in traffic.
I don't think you need a mountain of power to have fun, having personal previously owned a Polo GTI and i20N, where your able to use all of the power more of the time. I also worked in the Automotive industry for 5 years, with a multi-franchise dealership in the fleet department. I sampled MANY different brands of vehicles, and if you want to talk about powerful RWD vehicles, we sold Ford Performance Vehicles (FPV).
Lastly, weird comment to make about "my car", when you don't even know what it is. BMW 1/2 series, is entry level BMW. At the time of purchasing my current vehicle, I could have easily purchased a nice OG M2 for less money if desired, and I also did seriously consider purchasing a new 128ti. By the way, I'm well aware of how special that model of M2 is, but it's not something that personally interests me. Speaking of which, I currently own a Cupra Formentor VZx (and looking into adding a Honda S660 in 2024), which doesn't really mold well for most of your arguments I think. Go on, tell me how crap my car is if you like! This is entertaining! 😄
I have a 16 plate 3ltr sport. Had it 3 years and it’s faultless. Amazing car
I owned a 2009 4.2L SV8 in the Middle East. Fantastic car. Blew a tire at 190km/hr on the Dubai outer bypass road down to Jebel Ali and the car tracked dead straight to a stop (once all the electronics kicked in).
Generally I would agree that Ian Callum does a good job but the X351 XJ would have to be one of the worst looking large saloons ever. It's bizarre how he was able to design such a disaster when the rest of his work is brilliant.
The V8 is what I’m after. I own Lexus and nobody beats them regarding the older LS 430. But the design on this. f Luxury V8 is wonderful. Thankyou Mr Aussie man. Appreciate honesty. I still may buy if it’s had good maintenance.
I struggle with this video. I've owned 3 XFs - two first gen, a 3.0 V6 petrol and the 4.2 SV8 - and then the second gen 3.0 supercharged V6. I had to have a radiator flush on the SV8 (it had a poor service history prior to my ownership so I forgive it that) but, that aside, I've had no issues at all with my XFs. Easily the most reliable cars I've ever owned. Diesels are a different matter and, by all accounts, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. But petrols? Pretty solid.
My local dealer has one of these on their lot and it looks super. Thanks for pointing out the issues with this car. No way I will ever purchase one of these.
Bought my XF Sportbrake 3L V6 2014 model two and half years ago as a six month stop gap!!!. My normal cars were up to that point A6 Quatro,A5,A4, BMW, Mercs etc and this Jag was cheap and available, I have to say its been one of the best cars I have owned. I was shocked as I expected poor quality but it now has 172,000 miles on the clock and no issues and beats the GmbH equivalents with ease in so many ways. I get 60 mpg (=50 USA Mpg) with Cruise control set at 65, if I'm at 50mph its hit 71 mpg (=60 USA mpg).
I live in the UK, never see these on the roads anymore, wonder why lol. Love the F type.
Same here, in and around Nottingham and Mansfield I see very few.
There are hundreds, if not more.
I live in UK there ever where
Compared to a few years ago, not that many.
Don't agree with that at all. See them all the time in the UK. I own a facelift XFS so I'm always looking out for them.
Back here, the XF is a little infra-dig, for the average Jaguar enthusiast - I for example have an XJ portfolio JLWB. It has done nearly 50,000 miles, & I have hardly spent anything apart from the usual wear & tear + a new cam-belt at 45,0000 just for the extra confidence. The last two MOTSs have passed with no advisories. There is one thing to be said fore the XJ - it’s extra length and comfort make it look a lot sleeker & give you ridiculous luxury e.g. massage seats etc.
I have had 4 xfs over the last 17 years and haven’t had a single issue unlike friends with German cars. They also drive way, way , way better than a lexus which is basically saying you have given up on life
I have a 2014 3 litre turbo diesel with 23000 miles on it it's lovely hope i don't get problems just yet.
I currently have A 2014 XJ.
Most reliable, comfortable Car I ever owned…
Mines a 2010 xf s portfolio 3 litre twin turbo diesel .
Has the black carbon fibre interior rather than the horrible wood . Ages much better .
Had my share of niggles , but its 14 years old with 120 thousand miles under its belt so i take it in my stride . I do what i can myself , for example that horrible little connector in the top of the fuel tank that stops your fuel gauge working and the car to run like shit . Simple fix thanks to a little googling .
Still love the car and will be sad to part with her .
Look at that wonderful tyre sidewall, no super low-profile wheels in sight. That ride must be great
I purchased a 2015 2.0 l I'm an over the road truck driver trying to rebuild my credit the car was super cheap 16k with 75 miles it won't be driven much and sell probably after 1yr but definitely this car is sexy
in the uk i love my 2011 pre facelift 3.0d xfs portfolio with de cat and remap to 340bhp black on black 150.000 miles and does not miss a beat had it 5 years paid £5000 for it only put upgraded breaks and disks all round on it it cost £200 its only cost me £500 in service and upgrades in 6 years parts are dirt cheap
I bought my first XF 3.0 V6 PETROL on 18th June 2024 with 25632miles on the clock. By far, it's very reliable and I'm loving it here in the UK. But, it really drink lot of fuel😂...I'm enduring it anyway because it's a v6. Highly recommend
5.0 lV8 is a base engine for this car.
The early 3 litre petrol was a Jaguar tweaked version of the Ford Duratec engine and very reliable.
I've owned an S type for a few years with no problems and in my opinion take the gamble - definitely worth it!
My turbo failed for no reason. That also lead to a certain noise at lower speed. That is probably a tapit noise.
Overall, until now I am still enjoying.
I have a 2010 xf with a 4.2 v8 . It has 198,000 plus miles on it and the engine still purrs and sounds better than a 2024 Benz and it still runs strong
As you do address reliability & cost & then say about those who are prepared for it in the name of emotion, when you mention Jaaaaaaag vs BMW, Audi & Mercedes, you need to add the other....... Maserati!
The ultimate heart over head purchase.
Never liked the headlight shape of the first model. The upgrade with sleaker lights looks much better.
They really are a great looking car and the interior looks like a cigar lounge. A high spec 2014-15 mazda 6 would also be a more sensible alternative. Can I request a volvo S60 review the 2012-17 T5 and T6. Yes I'm a sucker for terrible cars that have personality.
Cant compare mazda 6 to jag xf...yes i do agree mazda is a nice motor but never can live up to jaguar...just a different class altogether , if there was 3.0d almost 300hp and Rwd option of Mazda then i would consider 😅
@@lukasznowak8873 I really wish Mazda did make the 6 rwd! As much as I know it's not sensible I could be very easily tempted to throw caution to the wind if a reasonable 4.2 XF came up on the market.
@@cthorno2991 spot on ! :)
I own a Jaguar xf but I didn’t know if the washer pump fails it can leak onto module operating central lines locking… £2000
Which is exactly what happened to my 2012 XF S diesel. Washer pump leaked and wicked fluid into the body control module connector, and then the power line to the brake pedal switch corroded off.
In 2014 my wife and I looked at a new XF S sport with 3 litre twin turbo diesel. We almost bought it but, the salesman was one of the rudest people I have every met - and not punched in the mouth. Anyway, it looks like he did us a favour and we bought a Lexus IS 350 F sport which we still have and I'm happy to say it has not missed a beat. I can honestly say though, the Jaguar is one good looking car.
King off the road mine is the 3.0d 190k on her still going Beautiful brilliant machine ive had bmws and Mercedes never buy anything again only a jaggg. Beautiful machines 💙
Just bought a 2017 XF 35t. Love the car, hope it doesn’t fail too soon
not that great to find parts for jag , I just sell it with huge hit in loss of money because of that
Stunning looking car still ! Great review - cheers from Brisbane
I used to think these were a much sexier looking Falcon fg...They sound incredible with V8 and the XFR-S is nuts...
I like cars from the Euro/Jap/Korean/US market...
(The Lexus LFA is one of my all time favourite cars)
Everyone that says get a Lexus...The reason more people don't buy the IS series is because they look like a Camry with an upgraded grill and sleeker lights...The interior is fantastic 👌...Just my opinion...But I want to feel alive when I am driving and my favourite sedan would be an Alfa Giulia GTA...
The sound ! I dropped into a local gas station with my xf 4.2 v8 gasoline ,with custom exhaust and the attendant ran inside to get his co-worker " Come listen to this car !" .
I've never heard Jim talk so long in my life. Wow. I even forgot that's it's a team show
Owned one for a year and the engine blew. Completely my fault the dealer said get an oil change every 5k miles and I asked a shop to do it after 10k and they didn’t do it blew a few weeks later. Overall though if you take care of it this car really will treat you well. Only cheap mechanical issues that in most cases you can do yourself but i only had a couple.
I got my 2011 XF V8 since 2012, about to hit 140K miles, I'm good. Few hiccups now and then, but I can afford those repairs and maintenance.
Back looks like a fgx falcon(or vice versa) front has shades of commodore and or mondeo.
Still a damned good looking car.
This XF Jag kind of reminds me of how the FG Falcon could have evolved in terms of styling.
Yeah, the last Falcon (FG X) reminded me of the Jag XF and I entertained getting one of the 2.0T petrol models. Noice.
No thankyou, im extacticly happy with my x350 4.2 v8 no major issues in 4 years it is beautiful to drive and easy on my eye, i recently tried out a 2015 xf 3ltr petrol for a day, it was great! and i could afford it but there was just something lacking? It felt so good to get back into my 350 again, like coming home to a beautiful home, she just felt right, not everyone's cuppa but out of all the cars in this class ive tried out (out of sheer curiosity😂) my old girl has just got that something, im saving my money and if i need to spend it on "JJ" ill do that before i go buying something else, my verdict is im very happy with what ive got, she has everything i could possibly want and more and she still looks very sexy in her BRG! 😋❤
In my part of the US a 2009 Jaguar XF with 70-90,000 miles can be purchased for under $5,000. Any Toyota, Honda or Lexus will be much more money - For example a 2003 Lexus ES300 with 150,000 miles will most likely be listed at $7,000
I miss my XF will get another one day
"Or maybe it's because the car's haunted".
Priceless
I'm moving the France to live but first going to the UK to pick up a car. First I was looking for a Range Rover with the Jag V8 Yes I know what your going to say, I've own a Discovery and I know how expensive it to fix but that's because it's Australia ! Where all car mechanics assume that you are rich because you own a Land Rover car,so they charge you immensely! But in the UK there are parts galore and basically every UK mechanic can fix them and not charge you big bucks ! Then while looking for cars over there I discovered the Jag XF OMG ! What a beautiful car inside and out and you can pick many up for $5000-9000 AUD unlike here where they sell between $15,000-20,000 ! These cars can easily tow a english caravan and I will buying one of these as well,you can pick up a decent 4-5 berth for only $3000 AUD So I will be spending just under $10,000 AUD for a Jag and caravan try and do that here in the Land of the Buck Australia !
Interesting. Got a 2014 XF 3.0 V6 TDI sportbrake. Bought at 45kms and now got 190kms on it, seven years later. Only issue has been when I changed the battery and easily solved using an Autologic scan tool. Do long trips, like 650kms in a day, 5.6-7.0l/100kms. Goes and handles really well. I hear all the issues but I am convinced, long trips, drive it like you stole it and it should be good. Like any good car, if you can't afford the bits, don't buy it. The best car I've had and I've had GT W12, Mercs, BMW, Mitsi, Lotus blah blah. If you get a good one, brilliant. If you get a Friday arvo one, opps!! For me, I love it, but like all modern cars, electrics are a bastard. Next car? A classic with no 'kin electrics!!
Had to scrap my old reliable X type diesel due to London’s ULEZ charging….
Replaced with a supercharged XE. Hoping this would be as reliable….
I really like the XF. The video certainly brings it down the right question. Are you prepared to put with the faults and dramas? Jaguars really gorgeous cars but are a commitment.
It's funny how some videos can really hook you - when I first saw Top Gear's XFR review, I was smitten. Though it was out of my price range to buy new, I had to test drive one and was hooked by that engine. Sadly the rest of the driving experience didn't quite do it for me, though I do wish I had the chance to try the facelifted version, or even better, the XFR-S.
@Adam Same :)
Just pay cash for it so your not mad when it blows up :) about to buy my first xf I’m excited.
I love my first Generation XF
Bloody fantastic video mate! Personally I prefer the early, round headlight, model cars as you have n the video. If you think those buttons are poor I'd say the rubbery "bean counter enhanced" versions are worse in that they give a low quality feel
The unreliability of these cars is totally over played. It's no less reliable than any other car in this bracket. The 2.2d for example is a very very good engine.
Well said!
I watched a few of his videos and He likes to diss Jaguars, and like you say the unreliability is over played and I've had worse issues with a B.M.W. I've had an XF an XJ and an F Pace cracking cars, so much so I'm now onto an XE.
@@Amathusukx great value are old jags
It's not the engines that are the issue, it's the trim and toys that fail.
Your mechanic was correct - the Ford engineed variety are often looked at here, as Jaguar badged Mondeos. I should think that from what I experienced of the Australian climate; I don’t think European cars reall take this into account. And yes, the electricalsc issue is just as much a problem with any modern cars. As I said, I went instead for the XJ Portfolio, but as you recommended, buying a heavily depreciated luxury vehicle requires a reserve of funds for any maintenance issues that will come up. Over here, they are a a lot less expensive than in Australia - but & and it’s a big one; you would need to have pretty deep pockets if you were going to buy the modes with supercharged V8 engines. Mine does a reasonable 36 - 50mpg on the road, depending on how I drive it, having twin turbo 3 litre v6 gives me just under 300bhp. Because since the XJ 350 models were introduced, the all aluminium body means that it’s not as heavy as it looks & it will hit 60mph in a shade under 6 seconds, which isn’t bad for a four door luxury car - on the roof lining is suede leather - but I don’t like those pop-up selectors! Any you’re right if in Australia, buy a Lexus.
The "Jaguar badged Mondeo" has always been the S-type, because that's exactly what it was - a Jaguar built on the Mondeo platform. The XF is completely new from the ground up, nothing to do with the Mondeo at all.
Great cars - every car as some sort of a problem as it gets older- make sure it as a good service history and enjoy .
Haha, the comparison of the XF interior to Helen Mirren is perfect! That is an indelible comparison, and rather apropos. Actually, I don't think the XF interior looks aged, but is always attractive, straightforward without pretensions, and absolutely timeless....just like Helen Mirren!
So just the 2.0T and 2.2D so you can get ford parts?