I stack the wood in the burning chamber so it is upright and just below the top holes of the stove. Shortly after the wood is lite and the gamification starts you can be cooking. Don't have to wait for the wood to burn down. Yes , I do have to add more wood as time goes on but that is cooking on a twig stove. The two stoves I use are the Silver Fire Scout which is like your knock off one and a Solo Stove lite. My favorite is the Solo Stove since the bottom is solid and the ash bin is above the bottom. It doesn't burn a circle of leave a pile of ash where you used it.
Watching this I kept thinking, "Man, that guy should have cleared the immediate area of all that dry grass and leaves before starting fires in those stoves..."
The “smokiness” and lack of efficiency with the Toaks seems to come from your inexperience with it. Wood density at the bottom should be greater and you shouldn’t be putting much stuff over the top vents so it gasifies more efficiently. It works wonderfully and it is a clear choice for portability conscious campers and backpackers. Also, I’ve never had problems with it’s stability because the wood is retained low weighting the stove down. To me, the lack of a side feeding window is a deal breaker because it delays the cooking process.
Here's a mod to make your Toaks gasifier stove less tippy. Buy yourself a set of siege stove brackets. They will stabilize the base, and also the top. They come in either titanium or stainless steel.
I like how the Chinese clones, since they're a rip off of the Silver Fire Scout, fit perfectly inside a 775 ml MSR Stowaway Pot. I mean PERFECTLY! Nesting perfection with a great locking lid to keep the stove secure. Thanks for the video.
I too set the pot stand like that for my Silverfire. It's stable for both cups and larger pots, and it raises them up a bit to let the stove breath better. It's also allows for better heat control when I'm frying my eggs, and leaves room to add wood without raising the pot/pan. It may seem that opening them all the way would be more stable, but it really isn't.
I have the small Toaks and the same stainless stove, do several test , used the wood pellet, the stainless stove about 5~5.5 mins boring 1L water, the Toaks need 7 mins more, except the weight and size, I thinks the advantage of Toaks is it could use the longer twigs, about 20cm. That kind of stainless stove just could used 10 cm twigs, with no tool is rather hard to make it, and trouble, waste lot of time. But if you always taking an axe, that maybe not any problem
Wood should not go over the jets. If it does then your stove will end up mimicking a forge instead of what it's designed to do. Besides that those are cool stoves. :)
I do think the Silverfire clone burns better than the Toaks from the videos I am seeing. I have the Silverfire clone myself, but the Toaks is half the weight so I am considering a Titanium stove for the weight reduction. I really like the Silverfire clone as it works well, but weight in my pack is the key here that has me looking at titanium. Thanks for sharing, I think the base modification is a good idea or I saw another video where someone is using the tent stakes to hold the stove down on ground where you can set some anchors. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video - I just picked up the small TOAKS stove after watching and commenting on your last video. I'm hoping to share my first impressions on a video on my channel soon. I'll compare it to my home made square wood stove. Thanks again for making the video's - I know they take way longer to make than people think ;) Michael
Hi! I was wondering if it would be possible to craft some twigs to stick in the lower vents to increase the footprint and improve stability. Either that or a more permanent solution in the same lines as the tent pegs? I am considering a purchase but that stability is for me a deal breaker and it is all down to design.
As previously stated, the entire system is very unstable. Really creates a dangerous situation, need a cleared area just in case it tips over. A lot dried grass around your cooking area.
There is no comparison of the two ones a gassifier stove the other is a straight burn stove . The silver fire u just load to the holes not past .... i could go on . U can use steel tent pegs to keep more stable . Not knocking your vid love all stove ds and thank you for making it . Time to make a updated one and your views now i have a Ohuhu stove and love it .
I found your comparison interesting. It just so happens I have the same two stoves. I think the clone stove is superior in design to the Toaks. I tried my Toaks for the first time a couple of days ago and found it to be very smokey and inefficient burning. I also found it to be tippy. I spilled some of the test water during a boil. On the other hand the Silver Fox clone burned wonderful with very little smoke. The gasification process seems to work much better on the clone. I also think the clone is more stable. There are two qualities to the Toaks.... lighter and nesting capability for the stove and pots/cups.
What crazy is that you didn’t even say which model Toaks stove you are using? Is it the STV-11 or the STV-12? Please state! Without this information, the test is useless.
I stack the wood in the burning chamber so it is upright and just below the top holes of the stove. Shortly after the wood is lite and the gamification starts you can be cooking. Don't have to wait for the wood to burn down. Yes , I do have to add more wood as time goes on but that is cooking on a twig stove. The two stoves I use are the Silver Fire Scout which is like your knock off one and a Solo Stove lite. My favorite is the Solo Stove since the bottom is solid and the ash bin is above the bottom. It doesn't burn a circle of leave a pile of ash where you used it.
If the Toaks is not stable try grounding it with 2 tent pegs through the holes at the bottom.
It won't impede the air flow.
Watching this I kept thinking, "Man, that guy should have cleared the immediate area of all that dry grass and leaves before starting fires in those stoves..."
You could use 3-4 tent pegs to secure the Toaks to the ground via the air vents in its base.
It's amazing how some people do not have the common sense to clear a burn ring !
The “smokiness” and lack of efficiency with the Toaks seems to come from your inexperience with it. Wood density at the bottom should be greater and you shouldn’t be putting much stuff over the top vents so it gasifies more efficiently. It works wonderfully and it is a clear choice for portability conscious campers and backpackers. Also, I’ve never had problems with it’s stability because the wood is retained low weighting the stove down. To me, the lack of a side feeding window is a deal breaker because it delays the cooking process.
I believe the Toaks sales a cross grill to go a top their stove..
Here's a mod to make your Toaks gasifier stove less tippy. Buy yourself a set of siege stove brackets. They will stabilize the base, and also the top. They come in either titanium or stainless steel.
This was made before there was two models so at the time it was very reasonable I could not predict the future. It is the larger model.
I like how the Chinese clones, since they're a rip off of the Silver Fire Scout, fit perfectly inside a 775 ml MSR Stowaway Pot. I mean PERFECTLY! Nesting perfection with a great locking lid to keep the stove secure. Thanks for the video.
I too set the pot stand like that for my Silverfire. It's stable for both cups and larger pots, and it raises them up a bit to let the stove breath better. It's also allows for better heat control when I'm frying my eggs, and leaves room to add wood without raising the pot/pan. It may seem that opening them all the way would be more stable, but it really isn't.
I have the small Toaks and the same stainless stove, do several test , used the wood pellet, the stainless stove about 5~5.5 mins boring 1L water, the Toaks need 7 mins more, except the weight and size, I thinks the advantage of Toaks is it could use the longer twigs, about 20cm. That kind of stainless stove just could used 10 cm twigs, with no tool is rather hard to make it, and trouble, waste lot of time. But if you always taking an axe, that maybe not any problem
Wood should not go over the jets. If it does then your stove will end up mimicking a forge instead of what it's designed to do. Besides that those are cool stoves. :)
Great comparison, thanks for posting!
I do think the Silverfire clone burns better than the Toaks from the videos I am seeing. I have the Silverfire clone myself, but the Toaks is half the weight so I am considering a Titanium stove for the weight reduction. I really like the Silverfire clone as it works well, but weight in my pack is the key here that has me looking at titanium. Thanks for sharing, I think the base modification is a good idea or I saw another video where someone is using the tent stakes to hold the stove down on ground where you can set some anchors. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video - I just picked up the small TOAKS stove after watching and commenting on your last video. I'm hoping to share my first impressions on a video on my channel soon. I'll compare it to my home made square wood stove. Thanks again for making the video's - I know they take way longer to make than people think ;) Michael
The Emporium Awesome, I am glad to hear you picked one up! I still carry the toaks even if the stainless one is a little more user friendly.
Hi! I was wondering if it would be possible to craft some twigs to stick in the lower vents to increase the footprint and improve stability. Either that or a more permanent solution in the same lines as the tent pegs? I am considering a purchase but that stability is for me a deal breaker and it is all down to design.
Stove placement 🙌
As previously stated, the entire system is very unstable. Really creates a dangerous situation, need a cleared area just in case it tips over. A lot dried grass around your cooking area.
There is no comparison of the two ones a gassifier stove the other is a straight burn stove . The silver fire u just load to the holes not past .... i could go on . U can use steel tent pegs to keep more stable . Not knocking your vid love all stove ds and thank you for making it . Time to make a updated one and your views now i have a Ohuhu stove and love it .
Stack the lower fire box with thicker split wood
Light from the top
Top down fire
The toaks is not set up to be a gasfier like the clone is.
I have them both.
I found your comparison interesting. It just so happens I have the same two stoves. I think the clone stove is superior in design to the Toaks. I tried my Toaks for the first time a couple of days ago and found it to be very smokey and inefficient burning. I also found it to be tippy. I spilled some of the test water during a boil. On the other hand the Silver Fox clone burned wonderful with very little smoke. The gasification process seems to work much better on the clone. I also think the clone is more stable. There are two qualities to the Toaks.... lighter and nesting capability for the stove and pots/cups.
But the three part wider model packs shorter, and fits neatly in my pot.
I think the Silver fox is made made by same Chinese company. ..as the one you are using...they made the intake holes different that's all...
The Toaks is appealing due to the weight,nesting, and size. But it is top heavy and IMO not very efficient.
What crazy is that you didn’t even say which model Toaks stove you are using? Is it the STV-11 or the STV-12? Please state! Without this information, the test is useless.
STV-11 is the large model that he is using. STV-12 is smaller.
I hope that grass is wet, lol
chek the iregro wood stove(amazon) and tell wath you think