It's strange because usually Bungie is amazing at making everything feels so flashy, snappy and responsive, there's a lot of feedback going on with all the stuff you use, but with Severance it looks like they got pushed away by a gust of wind while you weren't looking.
Nahhh with severance enclosure strand is 100% the way to go! there's a fragment that spawns threadlings on finishers and the more difficult the enemy that's finished the more threadlings spawn plus you get a severing burst on explosions. with the melee regen on strand plus banner of war buffing damage and having woven mail you can constantly loop finishers and explosions and also have grapple grenade melee explosions it's really fun and destructive!
That Severance Enclosure build is much stronger on Strand Titan. Not sure if you read this, but use Into the Fray with Banner of War Aspects, and use the Fragment that spawns a Threadling when you use a finisher. Use Grapple Grenade, and make sure on your Class item you use the mod for a powerful overshield when using finishers and the one where finishers heal you. Use it with Monte Carlo. You won't regret it.
I’ve had severance in a void build for ages. Pair it with devour, invis, and volatile, specifically the fragment that spreads vol to nearby ads when finishing. You weaken a couple targets, push in and get a finish off, and the splash dmg gets everyone else weak, and you just go on a finisher spree. Pair it with the void glaive from a few seasons back, and bastion for constant ovs, and you’re unkillable. I’ve ran it in GMs before and it just was an ad clear machine
You remember in the light fall season where doing a finisher would cause a weakening void explosion? Shit was popping when you paired it with severance man. That explosion would nuke them the volatile/weakening would just annihilate!
@@pch1370 funnily enough, I’ve never actually used Felwinter’s 😭 I’ve seen builds and just, maybe I don’t play as aggro on a lock in end game to make use of it. But even on Hunter, I have a gyrfaclon build specced out for finishers, and a stasis Aeons build for finishing too. I love when you can just, throw one ability and weaken a group, and just run in and “finisher, finisher, finisher, finisher, finisher, ok strikes done!” XD
For that Severance build, not running Proximity Ward really damaged its durability in higher-difficulty content. Proximity Ward's overshield in finisher-focused builds cannot be understated, as it gives you a pretty beefy insulation against anything trying to kill you during your finisher animation. I've survived SO much bullshit I had no business surviving in GMs by just snagging a finisher on a random redbar and letting the overshield tank whatever was giving me trouble. I'm talking swarms of cursed thrall, boss attacks aimed directly at me. Anything short of "overwhelming firepower" is survivable if you can get a finisher while you have Proximity Ward equipped.
I just began to experiment with Aeons on a Void Bubble Titan for fun, and yeah, the finisher overshield is a must on anything higher than Legend. I do want to eventually give Severance a go when I can get a good roll on it.
I run prox ward specifically for combining banner of war with abeyant leap. Knowing I can chip enemy health down to finisher saves me the trouble of having to invest my build into a melee centered build
@@jacobo.6744 Strand works very well with Thread of Finality since Threadlings will seriously chunk anything hit by the 30% Weaken from Fel's explosion, but Void's a very obvious choice as well and has a lot more synergy within the kit through Echo of Cessation, Harvest, and Obscurity providing a Volatile debuff, consistent Orb gen, and Invis to make the build safer in general. Any Repulsor Brace weapon on any Subclass gives you free Void Overshield too
On the titan build if you use roaring flames and have it up your base melee scorches and counts as a power melee. Just pointing it out for people who want to run the shoulder charge. You can keep up with RF with normal melee and this counts to anything listed as power melee on mods. Like heavy handed and impact induction. Severance and heart of inmost light benefits from this. Knockout, RF, offensive bulwark with overshield all count as power melee
I’m a Solar Warlock main. I love Starfire! The nerds hurt it a lot, but I’ve built into it more and it works just as well as it used to. I’ve used Starfire on every encounter of pantheon so far and it’s made my life significantly easier
I'm just here to say that for the severance enclosure Titan build and there should have been a mountaintop there because even then, radiant gives all your weapons that don't already have a champion modifier a barrier champion modifier so instead of double primary it should have been mountaintop.
PSA about the fire sprite and it's usage. It's a very useful restoration tool IF you can time the pick up plus the killing of ads. You need to pick up the fire sprite right before killing a group of ads, and you are guaranteed 15 sec of restoration and adds 2 seconds every time you kill an enemy, or pick up a fire sprite. It's very tricky, but you become a god if you can time it just right
Titan, Actium War Rig, Xenophage, Solar Scavenger Mod, + (not requited) Xenotaph Warlock. Infinite Xenophage cause each (Small Heavy brick) gives you 13+ ammo, (1 normal brick) gives you a 23+ ammo, so just lay on the trigger with radiant and solar surges active, obliterate everything.
Radiant dance machines with strand and just spamming dodge, meele and suspending granades is the greatest build ever and noone will convince me otherwise
Severance enclosure without roaring flames is a crime ;-; when you lose your bonk hammer it don't even matter cuz if roaring flames is up you're getting severance to proc since ur melee counts as powered... and the damage increase like cross said. Consecration always felt redundant to me with that thing
For those who use severance for builds, there is a bug were it will count a void overshield, roaring flames and knockout as a powered melee, so running this on void, getting health regen with echo of cessation and bastion is beautiful for ad clear and survivability
so glad to see severance show up its my favorite exotic in the game especially since if it doesnt kill something they end up in the air u can even air combo finishers and just climb its hilarious i do wish that severance and bombardiers worked the same when it came to different elements it would do different stuff as these are my 2 favorite exotics i just know the explosion went off so much because the explosion makes a somewhat unique pop sound
Yeah Starfire is definitely expendable here. Honestly, Verity's Brow would be infinitely better given the lack of empowering rift and choice of fragments/weapon
yeah the empowered rift part of starfire is kinda dead. once they nerfed that most people went to your kind of setup with benevolence as well, but then they nerfed the armor cooldown mods and it got hurt again. Still pretty good though.
@@sQuaTsiFieD The user-submitted build also needs to switch out eruption and char for searing and ashes. More firesprites, and you're less reliant on armor mods. I also like using my Cry Mutiny with incan/vorpal.
This was such much better with elemental wells too I miss ele wells so much. Didn't even need to drop rifts except for bosses and Champs. I had it to stack 3 elemental wells every nade kill and it just keeps filling back up. Was more fun than when this got really popular in the RoN lightfall days.
That Titan screwed it up cross is exactly right you want roaring flames with severance because then on top of the solar damage bonus when you’re in between charging your melee or if you just going around punching ads you will proc the severance explosion as long as you have roaring flames. No idea if that’s intentional or what but it is truly awesome. Using that in conjunction of finisher mods for shields and other defense move abilities will shred even high levels.
Okay crayons munchers it's time to return to your roots Put on insurmountable skull front That is all Thank you (A build I tried in onslaught and had great success with!)
For the starfire build, if you need more add clear, run a wave frame in the kinetic slot, need precision use supremacy/succession, need anti major use a fusion or now mountaintop. But any of the above with your solar weapon of choice and dragons breath is just incredible.
See, the thing is with Severance Enclosure, it's exotic perk revolves entirely off of melee final blows and finishers. I will almost always run it with Monte Carlo. Monte does decent damage by itself and having multiple targets or really big ones charges up your melee much much quicker. You won't be spamming consecration every couple of seconds, but in less than 20 sec, you've got another melee charge ready. Plus, picking up your bonk hammer and then leading into consecration gives you two Severance melee's within 10 seconds of each other. Severance Enclosure + Monte Carlo would make this build a lot quicker and a lot more consistent. That and pairing it with other weapons that have things like Swashbuckler that will feed more melee energy.
Funnily enough over the past 3 weeks I've been using the Swarmers build for Onslaught. It's nutty. Your bow isn't all that strong but one you pick off weak enemies you'll be spawning so many threadlings, using hatchling, and suspending everything to do bonus damage. I've been getting the most kills out of everyone by far. In the 8-900 range
22:56 This is felt on a spiritual level. Consecration should be a damn melee ability option not a separate whole ass aspect... One of my biggest issues with the new subclasses changes we got when 3.0 dropped...
Starfire even right after the nerf has been always good. 2 grenade charges by itself is great, with instant rift regeneration it's top tier. The nerf brought it down from S+ tier to S tier.
I played with someone running a similar Swarmers build and it was one of the craziest things I've ever seen - just annihilating rooms of adds. Feel like something was missing there, maybe not destroying Tangles enough to take advantage of it.
Hey Cross, the reason you aren't seeing firesprites is because you need a source to make them. Ember of Mercy doesn't make them, it only adds the restoration effect. Dragon's Breathe does make them with the catalyst, but if you really want to make firesprites consistently without spamming DB, run Ember of Searing (killing scorched targets) or Tempering (solar weapon kills).
Starfire build would be improved with Heat Rises and swapping Healing Rift -> Phoenix Dive, Eruption -> Empyrean and Mercy -> Singeing. Yea it's a grenade build but Heat Rises is the most OP part of Solar Lock's kit providing infinitely refreshable Restoration x2. We don't need to care about Rift's at all even though Rift is mentioned in the exotic, but since you aren't running empowering rift anyway Phoenix Dive is just straight up better than Healing Rift (because of Resto x2) and it also grants Cure to allies for Benevolence. Gameplay and the amount of grenades you can throw is essentially the same as Sunbracers just without the inconsistency of the requirement of getting a melee kill in group play.
I don't know if it's particularly off meta? But I've been using Precious Scars on Solar Titan with regular Hammers (cant remember the Fragments off the top of my head!) But I pair it with a Healclip Hand Cannon, been trying out a Healclip x Killclip Lunas (Want an Incandescent one!) Using Proximity Ward & Healing Finisher. You're constantly healing, you're constantly healing your allies also! I've been using Forerunner with the Hand Cannons to cover all Champs with a full team you dont have to cover as much but it really does cover everything! Also, the Wish-Keeper, Threadling, Swarmers Build is REALLY fun haha.
For the starfire build use phoenix dive instead of rift, use heat rises, embers of benevolence, empyrean, searing, and ashes. Consume a grenade, use melee ability, and dive immediately should give you restoration x2. Then as long as you stay in the air you'll kinda have all 3 abilities up constantly.
@@Thrasher424 User preference tbh. Sunbracers is more reliant on getting melee kills to keep going, starfire gives you a bit more flexibility. Sunbracers is more aoe while starfire is better single target imo.
@@averythehawknailed it. Sunbracers is goated for area control and mid-low tier add clear, whereas Starfire's double exploding fusion nades are nasty against chunking down and killing the tankier targets like ultras/mini-bosses during later waves. Both fantastic, but Starfire just hits harder and is a bit safer/easier to proc, especially in later waves, where you might not always get your sunbracer's snap final blow off, or one of your teammates kills the add you're going for before you do. Each option requires some setup to get going, but Starfire has def become more viable since its nerf, now that there are more and more weapons added to the sandbox rolling with Heal Clip, to synergize with Benevolence. You're no longer having to chase teammates down to solely rely on using your class ability next to them, or dropping a rift and asking them to dip in and out of it, just to keep proc'ing benevolence lol.
I don’t think people really realize this, but if you consume your shackle grenade for weavers trance, any kill that the suspending burst gets will proc ashes to assets
I can't get over the noise that strand bow makes, it's just a constant _splort! splort! splort!_ when he's shooting the thing. Sounds like he's firing arrows made out of Nickelodeon slime
Hey Aztecross an idea for an off meta build that has been heavily slept on in onslaught is Astrocyte Verse, feed the void and child of the old gods. Trust me just throw it on with gravaton and play very aggressively by jumping and making everything volatile. I pull 1300+ kills a large majority of the time each match by just having fun and using my mobility as a weapon. Though you need to know how to blink if you want to do use it effectively.
The Starfire build was good but I have almost perfected it. What you showed is 90% of my build but a couple changes make it much more lethal and regens tons of grenades for someone who like to play a bit more aggressively. I don't have the plants to submit but if you're interested look for SinurC in your chat next time I get the chance to pop in
My god finally, I been using starfire for months, hotswap to apotheosis veil when you wanna pop super/boss phaze After you dump your starfire grenades. I prefer pheonix dive for health for a lot shorter cooldown time, then the fragment where scorching enemies speeds up class ability. that way if you throw some shitty grenades you don't have to wait to long for it. fire ass build that feeds off constant movement which you want usually. or even in a gm if using polaris lance in place alot, which will scorch bringing class ability.keep healing teamates keep getting grenades.
I've been thinking about the same variant of build. Volatile and jolt and suspend sounds amazing with explosions happening everywhere. I do think they should make the severance package a elemental explosion though. The new invincible shield charging melee with all of these effect would hit a whole crowd and conceivably proc multiple explosions.
For Hunter I highly recommend Calibans as well as Renewal Graps. Calibans is self explanatory but Renewal Grasps paired with Devour from Buried Bloodline and a Demo + Wellspring Something New stasis Handcannon you get so much grenade energy that at once I'll have 3-4 grenades out while never reloading the gun plus healing from all kills. Highly recommend for anyone with that exact combo or can get something similar.
i have sooo many comments on soooo many of your build videos over the years saying FS would have mixed classes, and lol no one believed me. Comments are still there!!
Wish keeper / Swarmers build… use indebted kindness with those consumed grenades more. It should almost be your main weapon… using the bow as more of a utility/crowd control aspect of the build. Run special ammo and Ark holster mods to help with the ammo economy, eat every grenade you can and just slap everything with strand infused mini rockets. The bow is great once you get that strand flowing all over the place, indebted kindness with the grenades to get you there
Im confused, whats cosidered "empowering damage" outside of the empowering rift?? Cuz i was thinking cross was running wrong rift...but he still gettin genades back quick
I switched to Severance Enclosure once Dunemarchers got nerfed to not work with hammer throw. Having the oversheild finsiher mod makes it much more useable.
I feel consecration with pyrogales clear adds just as easy, plus it makes your super better. I feel severance enclosure isn't big enough explosion, maybe just me.
Don't forget: if you have any level of roaring flames, your melee counts as powered so any melee kill with roaring flames x1 will trigger the severance explosion.
Severence enclosure with a strand titan build is broken, pair with final warning especially when you've got unravelling rounds up, the explosion counts towards it, plus threadings everywhere
All I’m saying as someone who loves Starfire, It’s only going to get stronger when Hellion comes around. I also love using Severance on Solar Titan, however using Consecration with it feels like overkill, might as well use a different exotic. And no Proximity Ward is WILD
The problem I have with Starfire right now, is that the way it's used (Ember of Benevolence with Heal Clip and/or Incandescent weapons), Verity's Brow just does its job better. Since you're relying on Benevolence to get the grenade to charge faster in lieu of the Empowering Rift, you just get more grenade charge with Verity's double dipping AND boosting the power of your grenades. Just about everything Starfire does, Verity's does better.
I am also a titan main but I am missing something for titan build however I found something online from Sneaky beaver with the tommies matchbook and it is so fun to play this with the titan you can stand into the enemy’s spawn
Starfire is SO underrated today. I never liked it when it was meta because I don't like empowering rift, but now I play it the way you did here, minus I lean more into grenades than weapon damages and I love it
@@tomekk.1889yo didn't lose it XD go test it out... if you want to use half the exotic you can't use healing... you still get your rift back off gernade kills unless my games bugged
For the Wish-Keeper build, another thing you weren't doing Cross, was getting the tankier enemies low with your other weapons and swaping to Wish-Keeper again to get the kill for more threadlings. Every kill not on a Wish-Keeper reduces the overall effectiveness of the build. It was also a waste of ammo to use a GL shot on an enemy that would die in less than half a GL's worth of damage.
The Severance / Mini Hammer / 1-2Punch build was broken at the end of Beyond Light. I rocked it non-stop through 30th anniversary and it steamrolled everything except GMs. With the changes to 1-2Punch and Mini Hammer, it's a shadow of what it used to be.
I'm severance had a cool animation for the explosions I think that alone would improve the feeling.
I think consecration was blocking most of the effects it looks a little bit like kinetic tremors
Yes cross, severance launches them into the air. They go UP
It's strange because usually Bungie is amazing at making everything feels so flashy, snappy and responsive, there's a lot of feedback going on with all the stuff you use, but with Severance it looks like they got pushed away by a gust of wind while you weren't looking.
Nahhh with severance enclosure strand is 100% the way to go! there's a fragment that spawns threadlings on finishers and the more difficult the enemy that's finished the more threadlings spawn plus you get a severing burst on explosions.
with the melee regen on strand plus banner of war buffing damage and having woven mail you can constantly loop finishers and explosions and also have grapple grenade melee explosions it's really fun and destructive!
This. 100%. Plus, not having Proxi shield on a Severance Enclosure build is just dumb. This was the half-optimized version of a SE build.
please do link a dim build i would love to try this out!!
This is my build. Threadlings and unraveling projectiles just clear everything for me
This is literally the way
Onslaught feels like a walk in the park
Someone like a dim build I wanna try it 😭
That Severance Enclosure build is much stronger on Strand Titan. Not sure if you read this, but use Into the Fray with Banner of War Aspects, and use the Fragment that spawns a Threadling when you use a finisher. Use Grapple Grenade, and make sure on your Class item you use the mod for a powerful overshield when using finishers and the one where finishers heal you. Use it with Monte Carlo. You won't regret it.
I’ve had severance in a void build for ages. Pair it with devour, invis, and volatile, specifically the fragment that spreads vol to nearby ads when finishing. You weaken a couple targets, push in and get a finish off, and the splash dmg gets everyone else weak, and you just go on a finisher spree. Pair it with the void glaive from a few seasons back, and bastion for constant ovs, and you’re unkillable. I’ve ran it in GMs before and it just was an ad clear machine
This guy is Titaning so hard that he made his own upgraded Felwinter's Helm for Titans.
You remember in the light fall season where doing a finisher would cause a weakening void explosion? Shit was popping when you paired it with severance man. That explosion would nuke them the volatile/weakening would just annihilate!
This is basically the void build I've been using for over a year.
Same, one of the 2 builds I have saved xD
@@pch1370 funnily enough, I’ve never actually used Felwinter’s 😭 I’ve seen builds and just, maybe I don’t play as aggro on a lock in end game to make use of it. But even on Hunter, I have a gyrfaclon build specced out for finishers, and a stasis Aeons build for finishing too. I love when you can just, throw one ability and weaken a group, and just run in and “finisher, finisher, finisher, finisher, finisher, ok strikes done!” XD
For that Severance build, not running Proximity Ward really damaged its durability in higher-difficulty content. Proximity Ward's overshield in finisher-focused builds cannot be understated, as it gives you a pretty beefy insulation against anything trying to kill you during your finisher animation. I've survived SO much bullshit I had no business surviving in GMs by just snagging a finisher on a random redbar and letting the overshield tank whatever was giving me trouble. I'm talking swarms of cursed thrall, boss attacks aimed directly at me. Anything short of "overwhelming firepower" is survivable if you can get a finisher while you have Proximity Ward equipped.
I just began to experiment with Aeons on a Void Bubble Titan for fun, and yeah, the finisher overshield is a must on anything higher than Legend. I do want to eventually give Severance a go when I can get a good roll on it.
I run prox ward specifically for combining banner of war with abeyant leap. Knowing I can chip enemy health down to finisher saves me the trouble of having to invest my build into a melee centered build
Yeah Prox Ward feels necessary on any Finisher build. Can never pass it up on my Felwinter's
@@denny8422 That sounds awesome, fav subclass for felwinters?
@@jacobo.6744 Strand works very well with Thread of Finality since Threadlings will seriously chunk anything hit by the 30% Weaken from Fel's explosion, but Void's a very obvious choice as well and has a lot more synergy within the kit through Echo of Cessation, Harvest, and Obscurity providing a Volatile debuff, consistent Orb gen, and Invis to make the build safer in general. Any Repulsor Brace weapon on any Subclass gives you free Void Overshield too
On the titan build if you use roaring flames and have it up your base melee scorches and counts as a power melee.
Just pointing it out for people who want to run the shoulder charge. You can keep up with RF with normal melee and this counts to anything listed as power melee on mods.
Like heavy handed and impact induction. Severance and heart of inmost light benefits from this.
Knockout, RF, offensive bulwark with overshield all count as power melee
I’m a Solar Warlock main. I love Starfire! The nerds hurt it a lot, but I’ve built into it more and it works just as well as it used to. I’ve used Starfire on every encounter of pantheon so far and it’s made my life significantly easier
In final shape you'll be able to use starfire and heart of inmost light in one
Yes in one but you only have your empowering rift to get back nades
whats ur build like?
NERDS!
Which nerds? Give me their names and Imma beat their butt for ya
Also LMAO at Cross wondering where all the Firesprites were when his only Firesprite generation was DBreath
I'm just here to say that for the severance enclosure Titan build and there should have been a mountaintop there because even then, radiant gives all your weapons that don't already have a champion modifier a barrier champion modifier so instead of double primary it should have been mountaintop.
A blinding gl would’ve been very nice for finisher safety with that severance build!
Tommy and sanguines alchemy, now that's a build that is off meta
Well, you're not wrong.
This has been my favourite Warlock build for over a year now. So fun.
So many off-meta builds that work so well but people never believe you
Triton Vice on arc with the exotic glaive fucks for example
Reject Polaris, return to Tommy's.
@@FaultyTable I second this.
Severance is crazy on strand with launched melee and threadling finisher.
I've been loving Starfire in onslaught. Been rocking final warning w/ the artifact mods and demo/chain forbearance, so fun
Your thumbnails have got an upgrade! They look GREAT!!!
Been using Starfire with Luna for a few days now and it's still really good... especially with the artifact perks
PSA about the fire sprite and it's usage. It's a very useful restoration tool IF you can time the pick up plus the killing of ads. You need to pick up the fire sprite right before killing a group of ads, and you are guaranteed 15 sec of restoration and adds 2 seconds every time you kill an enemy, or pick up a fire sprite. It's very tricky, but you become a god if you can time it just right
he would need ember of empyrean for this.
@@Qeyed definitely. Thank you. I can't remember the embers off the top of my head
I think it was just chosen primarily for the on revive benefit in pugs where people are more likely to go down than in a coordinated fireteam.
Cross doesn't understand severance build playstyle.
I like my arc build with severance more than I do when using it with solar.
It’s like he forgot finishers pop it too
Nah it just sucks in comparison to some of the other exotics titans have
@@juancarlosolvera5927 That has nothing to do with him playing the build wrong.
@@metaempiricistIf he played it right it would still be mid lmao
Titan, Actium War Rig, Xenophage, Solar Scavenger Mod, + (not requited) Xenotaph Warlock.
Infinite Xenophage cause each (Small Heavy brick) gives you 13+ ammo, (1 normal brick) gives you a 23+ ammo, so just lay on the trigger with radiant and solar surges active, obliterate everything.
Radiant dance machines with strand and just spamming dodge, meele and suspending granades is the greatest build ever and noone will convince me otherwise
Submit it and find out
Precious scars and final warning absolutely DESTROYS
Been running that build for two months now
imo starfire never left the meta, it still gets insane regen and can easily get 4m + in Atheon
Severance enclosure without roaring flames is a crime ;-; when you lose your bonk hammer it don't even matter cuz if roaring flames is up you're getting severance to proc since ur melee counts as powered... and the damage increase like cross said. Consecration always felt redundant to me with that thing
THIS
For those who use severance for builds, there is a bug were it will count a void overshield, roaring flames and knockout as a powered melee, so running this on void, getting health regen with echo of cessation and bastion is beautiful for ad clear and survivability
That's not a bug, those are indeed powered melees. They all disintegrate the enemy when they hit and do extra damage plus reach/shield gain on hit.
so glad to see severance show up its my favorite exotic in the game especially since if it doesnt kill something they end up in the air u can even air combo finishers and just climb its hilarious i do wish that severance and bombardiers worked the same when it came to different elements it would do different stuff as these are my 2 favorite exotics i just know the explosion went off so much because the explosion makes a somewhat unique pop sound
Ember of benevolence plus any heal clip weapon is insane for good ability regen build
Yeah Starfire is definitely expendable here. Honestly, Verity's Brow would be infinitely better given the lack of empowering rift and choice of fragments/weapon
I've been running starfire in Onslaught for weeks, with the main differences being: witherhoard in the kinetic slot, heat rises, and phoenix dive.
yeah the empowered rift part of starfire is kinda dead. once they nerfed that most people went to your kind of setup with benevolence as well, but then they nerfed the armor cooldown mods and it got hurt again. Still pretty good though.
@@sQuaTsiFieD The user-submitted build also needs to switch out eruption and char for searing and ashes. More firesprites, and you're less reliant on armor mods. I also like using my Cry Mutiny with incan/vorpal.
@@sQuaTsiFieDI think the empowering rift could still work with buried bloodline since you are getting grenades back and healing on every kill
This was such much better with elemental wells too I miss ele wells so much. Didn't even need to drop rifts except for bosses and Champs. I had it to stack 3 elemental wells every nade kill and it just keeps filling back up. Was more fun than when this got really popular in the RoN lightfall days.
@@quubey_Healing rift is mainly to proc ember of benevolence I think
I use that Titan build but with void, and the explosions kills Orange bars on one hit from the explosion but the fall off is crazy at wave 40
That Titan screwed it up cross is exactly right you want roaring flames with severance because then on top of the solar damage bonus when you’re in between charging your melee or if you just going around punching ads you will proc the severance explosion as long as you have roaring flames. No idea if that’s intentional or what but it is truly awesome. Using that in conjunction of finisher mods for shields and other defense move abilities will shred even high levels.
Oh I’ve been missing the build battles , glad to see a new one!!!
I’m here for the Aztewithdrawls…our boy is on vaca with his fam until final shape drops…..ANOTHER FEW WEEKS BOYS & Papa Cross is back!
That warlock build is one of my favorites... Once the loop starts it's endless threadlings, unraveling, and suspension.
Okay crayons munchers it's time to return to your roots
Put on insurmountable skull front
That is all
Thank you
(A build I tried in onslaught and had great success with!)
For the starfire build, if you need more add clear, run a wave frame in the kinetic slot, need precision use supremacy/succession, need anti major use a fusion or now mountaintop. But any of the above with your solar weapon of choice and dragons breath is just incredible.
See, the thing is with Severance Enclosure, it's exotic perk revolves entirely off of melee final blows and finishers. I will almost always run it with Monte Carlo. Monte does decent damage by itself and having multiple targets or really big ones charges up your melee much much quicker. You won't be spamming consecration every couple of seconds, but in less than 20 sec, you've got another melee charge ready. Plus, picking up your bonk hammer and then leading into consecration gives you two Severance melee's within 10 seconds of each other. Severance Enclosure + Monte Carlo would make this build a lot quicker and a lot more consistent. That and pairing it with other weapons that have things like Swashbuckler that will feed more melee energy.
Bro, the knockback from the slam at 10:03 literally saved you from Dragon's Breath detonation killing you, haha
I have been using that Warlock strand build a lot this season. An alternative combo with strand is necrotic grips and thorn for even more ad clear.
Solar titan with severance is one i discovered recently, too. My favourite titan build.
Funnily enough over the past 3 weeks I've been using the Swarmers build for Onslaught. It's nutty. Your bow isn't all that strong but one you pick off weak enemies you'll be spawning so many threadlings, using hatchling, and suspending everything to do bonus damage. I've been getting the most kills out of everyone by far. In the 8-900 range
For severance, finishers pair well with one two finisher to get consecration back
22:56
This is felt on a spiritual level. Consecration should be a damn melee ability option not a separate whole ass aspect...
One of my biggest issues with the new subclasses changes we got when 3.0 dropped...
Been rocking starfire since the beginning of the year with heal clip weapons. Benevolence makes it very relevant again 👀
Starfire even right after the nerf has been always good. 2 grenade charges by itself is great, with instant rift regeneration it's top tier. The nerf brought it down from S+ tier to S tier.
Apotheosis Veil is basically the new Starfire Protocol except it can be used on multiple subclasses, shines the most on Solar and Void though.
Roaring flames with severance enclosure so your normal melee's cause the explosion, it also buffs the bonk to cause them more.
I played with someone running a similar Swarmers build and it was one of the craziest things I've ever seen - just annihilating rooms of adds. Feel like something was missing there, maybe not destroying Tangles enough to take advantage of it.
All the builds did very well, but I agree, the Starfire build stood out more.
Hey Cross, the reason you aren't seeing firesprites is because you need a source to make them. Ember of Mercy doesn't make them, it only adds the restoration effect. Dragon's Breathe does make them with the catalyst, but if you really want to make firesprites consistently without spamming DB, run Ember of Searing (killing scorched targets) or Tempering (solar weapon kills).
It’s that time in the season where I try and make Mechaneer’s Tricksleeves work.
Starfire build would be improved with Heat Rises and swapping Healing Rift -> Phoenix Dive, Eruption -> Empyrean and Mercy -> Singeing. Yea it's a grenade build but Heat Rises is the most OP part of Solar Lock's kit providing infinitely refreshable Restoration x2. We don't need to care about Rift's at all even though Rift is mentioned in the exotic, but since you aren't running empowering rift anyway Phoenix Dive is just straight up better than Healing Rift (because of Resto x2) and it also grants Cure to allies for Benevolence.
Gameplay and the amount of grenades you can throw is essentially the same as Sunbracers just without the inconsistency of the requirement of getting a melee kill in group play.
I agree - dash is fun but that’s it
I like to use ember of Temperance on my starfire build, just for the increased recovery, fits really well into my support-warlock play style
2nd build needs roaring flames. You can get roaring flames and it will bomb everyone even if you get a regular melee kill
For the starfire build I recommend using empowering instead of healing so u get ur gernades a lot quicker
Vesper of radius with indebted and witherhoard. Covers all champions makes legend onslaught a cake walk
That bow sound makes me think of what I'd expect Splatoon to sound like (no, I've never played it)
I don't know if it's particularly off meta? But I've been using Precious Scars on Solar Titan with regular Hammers (cant remember the Fragments off the top of my head!) But I pair it with a Healclip Hand Cannon, been trying out a Healclip x Killclip Lunas (Want an Incandescent one!) Using Proximity Ward & Healing Finisher. You're constantly healing, you're constantly healing your allies also! I've been using Forerunner with the Hand Cannons to cover all Champs with a full team you dont have to cover as much but it really does cover everything!
Also, the Wish-Keeper, Threadling, Swarmers Build is REALLY fun haha.
Try precious scars with a dragonfly/incandescent tyranny of heaven, it literally feels like a bow version of polaris lance
For the starfire build use phoenix dive instead of rift, use heat rises, embers of benevolence, empyrean, searing, and ashes. Consume a grenade, use melee ability, and dive immediately should give you restoration x2. Then as long as you stay in the air you'll kinda have all 3 abilities up constantly.
At that point why not just use Sunbracers?
@@Thrasher424 User preference tbh. Sunbracers is more reliant on getting melee kills to keep going, starfire gives you a bit more flexibility. Sunbracers is more aoe while starfire is better single target imo.
@@averythehawknailed it. Sunbracers is goated for area control and mid-low tier add clear, whereas Starfire's double exploding fusion nades are nasty against chunking down and killing the tankier targets like ultras/mini-bosses during later waves.
Both fantastic, but Starfire just hits harder and is a bit safer/easier to proc, especially in later waves, where you might not always get your sunbracer's snap final blow off, or one of your teammates kills the add you're going for before you do.
Each option requires some setup to get going, but Starfire has def become more viable since its nerf, now that there are more and more weapons added to the sandbox rolling with Heal Clip, to synergize with Benevolence. You're no longer having to chase teammates down to solely rely on using your class ability next to them, or dropping a rift and asking them to dip in and out of it, just to keep proc'ing benevolence lol.
I don’t think people really realize this, but if you consume your shackle grenade for weavers trance, any kill that the suspending burst gets will proc ashes to assets
Severance Enclosure is my favorite Titan build to run
Love the build battles videos!
I can't get over the noise that strand bow makes, it's just a constant _splort! splort! splort!_ when he's shooting the thing.
Sounds like he's firing arrows made out of Nickelodeon slime
Hey Aztecross an idea for an off meta build that has been heavily slept on in onslaught is Astrocyte Verse, feed the void and child of the old gods. Trust me just throw it on with gravaton and play very aggressively by jumping and making everything volatile. I pull 1300+ kills a large majority of the time each match by just having fun and using my mobility as a weapon. Though you need to know how to blink if you want to do use it effectively.
I would say conditional finality was the first “prism” weapon as it contains two elements one of darkness and one of light.
I liked the background music at 22:00
The Starfire build was good but I have almost perfected it. What you showed is 90% of my build but a couple changes make it much more lethal and regens tons of grenades for someone who like to play a bit more aggressively. I don't have the plants to submit but if you're interested look for SinurC in your chat next time I get the chance to pop in
Would you please post your build here? would love to try it
My god finally, I been using starfire for months, hotswap to apotheosis veil when you wanna pop super/boss phaze After you dump your starfire grenades. I prefer pheonix dive for health for a lot shorter cooldown time, then the fragment where scorching enemies speeds up class ability. that way if you throw some shitty grenades you don't have to wait to long for it. fire ass build that feeds off constant movement which you want usually.
or even in a gm if using polaris lance in place alot, which will scorch bringing class ability.keep healing teamates keep getting grenades.
Proxy ward is vital for that build. I have a clan mate that has mained Severance for almost 2 years.
Like Cross said, I came here for the builds and I stayed here for the magnanimous chat conversations lol
I'm interested to see how the severance build will work with prismatic. Spirit of severance + Spirit of synthoceps/contact sounds nice.
I've been thinking about the same variant of build. Volatile and jolt and suspend sounds amazing with explosions happening everywhere. I do think they should make the severance package a elemental explosion though. The new invincible shield charging melee with all of these effect would hit a whole crowd and conceivably proc multiple explosions.
For Hunter I highly recommend Calibans as well as Renewal Graps.
Calibans is self explanatory but Renewal Grasps paired with Devour from Buried Bloodline and a Demo + Wellspring Something New stasis Handcannon you get so much grenade energy that at once I'll have 3-4 grenades out while never reloading the gun plus healing from all kills.
Highly recommend for anyone with that exact combo or can get something similar.
i have sooo many comments on soooo many of your build videos over the years saying FS would have mixed classes, and lol no one believed me. Comments are still there!!
Wish keeper / Swarmers build… use indebted kindness with those consumed grenades more. It should almost be your main weapon… using the bow as more of a utility/crowd control aspect of the build. Run special ammo and Ark holster mods to help with the ammo economy, eat every grenade you can and just slap everything with strand infused mini rockets. The bow is great once you get that strand flowing all over the place, indebted kindness with the grenades to get you there
Weave walker with Monte Carlo goes hard
Another warlock build that one, never saw that coming
Im confused, whats cosidered "empowering damage" outside of the empowering rift?? Cuz i was thinking cross was running wrong rift...but he still gettin genades back quick
Severance with strand is OP, if you ignore the effects & explosion looks then it’s really good
I love severance I use it with strand grapple if ur ever in a pinch spam finisher with proximity ward
I switched to Severance Enclosure once Dunemarchers got nerfed to not work with hammer throw. Having the oversheild finsiher mod makes it much more useable.
I feel consecration with pyrogales clear adds just as easy, plus it makes your super better. I feel severance enclosure isn't big enough explosion, maybe just me.
Tried making a starfire protocol build with Lumina which kinda works but not as well as it should or as much as I’d hoped. Worth tinkering with tho.
Don't forget: if you have any level of roaring flames, your melee counts as powered so any melee kill with roaring flames x1 will trigger the severance explosion.
im a strand bias its my favorite subclass by far but every build was really good
I've gotten 865 kills and 331 orbs created, with a score of almost 19,000. I carry people 😉👍🏼
Severence enclosure with a strand titan build is broken, pair with final warning especially when you've got unravelling rounds up, the explosion counts towards it, plus threadings everywhere
Aztecross should try his colonel mustang build during this season with onslaught with the solar mods
All I’m saying as someone who loves Starfire, It’s only going to get stronger when Hellion comes around.
I also love using Severance on Solar Titan, however using Consecration with it feels like overkill, might as well use a different exotic. And no Proximity Ward is WILD
Severance enclosure is a void titan thing not much of solar. It can spread volatile to each enemy especially with explosive finisher.
The problem I have with Starfire right now, is that the way it's used (Ember of Benevolence with Heal Clip and/or Incandescent weapons), Verity's Brow just does its job better. Since you're relying on Benevolence to get the grenade to charge faster in lieu of the Empowering Rift, you just get more grenade charge with Verity's double dipping AND boosting the power of your grenades. Just about everything Starfire does, Verity's does better.
i dont have time to watch the full streams, but do NOT sleep on Salvations Grasp + Shatter Dive. It goes nuts
I am also a titan main but I am missing something for titan build however I found something online from Sneaky beaver with the tommies matchbook and it is so fun to play this with the titan you can stand into the enemy’s spawn
Mercy, resolve, benevolence, empyrian... precious scars. Heal clip weapon.
Noice Double Finisher @ 26:38🦾🦾🤌🤌
Starfire is SO underrated today. I never liked it when it was meta because I don't like empowering rift, but now I play it the way you did here, minus I lean more into grenades than weapon damages and I love it
Maybe you lost healing rift but your grenades kills still healed you so there was no need for it anyways
@@tomekk.1889yo didn't lose it XD go test it out... if you want to use half the exotic you can't use healing... you still get your rift back off gernade kills unless my games bugged
for the starfire build use phoenix dive instead of rift bcs of the shorter cooldown w means more dive more nades etc
I use severance all the time, you wanna be using the bonk hammers with roaring flames and sol invictus
Also proximity ward and healing nade
For the Wish-Keeper build, another thing you weren't doing Cross, was getting the tankier enemies low with your other weapons and swaping to Wish-Keeper again to get the kill for more threadlings. Every kill not on a Wish-Keeper reduces the overall effectiveness of the build. It was also a waste of ammo to use a GL shot on an enemy that would die in less than half a GL's worth of damage.
For the starforge build, swap Summoner's for Lunas and you get the grenade energy from indominatiblilty
Idk if you have tried felwinters on strand but the consistent debuff is great.
The Severance / Mini Hammer / 1-2Punch build was broken at the end of Beyond Light. I rocked it non-stop through 30th anniversary and it steamrolled everything except GMs. With the changes to 1-2Punch and Mini Hammer, it's a shadow of what it used to be.
Actually, it might be fun to revisit this with void. Don't melee's count as powered while you have an overshield? Might have to look into this.
The Severance is much better on Void. You can make everything volatile around you causing mire explosions as well as procing devour and invis.
I think for the severance build switch out dragons breath and put Monte Carlo in your primary spot so you get those melee back.