The PC market is so broken right now, a 5 year old (mid range at the time) graphics card is one of the best value choices at the moment and its still overpriced.
I'm so glad, that bought 3 months ago used RX580 4Gb for 100€. My plan was RTX3070 or possible Navi for my new PC. Just needed some GPU till that time, but seems that I will be stuck on it for ~1 year. Same card now in my country cost 140 - 160€ used. 8Gb version 200€ used, ~300€ new. For my old PC, that my wife and kids uses now, 3 years ago Zotac 1060 6Gb was for 320 €. Similar used one goes not bellow 180€. Cheapest new one I found and was in stock from EVGA 1 fan version of GTX1060 6Gb, that sells for 430€. This is insane.
So glad I bought a new RX590 last January 2020 for only US$170 from a regional on-line retailer here in Switzerland. Also snagged an MSI GTX 1080Ti in excellent condition for $360 about 2.5 months ago in a local deal. I fear these types of deals are not going to be seen in awhile. Now considering to sell my backup GPU, an MSI RX570 8GB...in this ridiculous bubble. I suppose I could get between $250 to 300 for this thing...given the heated local market. Insane. Only a few months ago I would've let it go for $120.
Greetings from the Philippines 🇵🇭 Question : i have bought a second hand pc and im suffering with FPS drops. Playing and streaming at the same time causes unbearable FPS drops. Can you guys help me figure out how to get this fixed? Below is the pc built. Thanks in advance. -Gigabyte X58 extreme MB -Xeon 5675 -Palit GTX 1070 8gb -12gb ram ddr3
@@jaimenbrunson1652 I got an Gigabyte 8GB RX570 like a month ago. It was under 200 on newegg. Overclocked it and @1200p high settings I get like 40 ish FPS in cyberpunk 2077, with some 20ish drops...Kinda amazing considering what it is. oh CPU is a Ryzen 7 3700x
@@theejoeylee LOL I had absolutely no money almost absolutely no money I make $40 every two weeks I bought a used red devil RX 570 4 GB for $115 I kind of regret the decision but not really the old mining GPUs are not that bad at all the only thing that is considerable to replace is the fans on the card those are the only thing that gets used heavily as long as you throw some new thermal paste on that thing you’re good
You inspire me to make deals and build great computers. I just bought a Thermaltake The Tower 900 with 2 custom loops for gpu and cpu for 150$ (I have no clue how to do hard tubing tho, so I hope I don’t destroy the parts I’ll be using) Keep up the good videos!
Scalpers are not to blame, the market price is too high and MSRP too low, that makes scalper's business model viable. Too much demand too little supply.
Haven't built an Intel box in years but was intrigued by current low prices on Xeons. Had considered them years ago when motherboards were very expensive but now with low cost X79 and X99 boards and Ivy Bridge and Haswell Xeons being plentiful I purchased an E5 2650 v2 eight core and an X79 motherboard for US $101. Already have all the other parts on the shelf including a GT730 card which is fine since I am not into PC games. Am looking forward to seeing how a $17.95 right core Xeon performs. Enjoy your Xeon videos as that is a neglected area here in the states. Avoid the clot shot and stay safe.
Praise to you my man, the best Aussie PC content maker from old days ! I thought I take a min to acknowledge you effort and dedication, this is from another Aussie 🙏👍
ive built 3-4 of these PC's as a business and i can tell you from experience that these xeons suck as for gaming as they constantly bottleneck even a gtx 970
The v3 exons are currently the best ones as they have high core counts, avx2, and the turbo boost unlock. And if you get one of the ones that has ddr3 support like the 2678v3, you can get 12 cores, 3.3 ghz all core, and 32gb of ram quad channel for about 200 usd
A combo for $260 (plus shipping) from AliExpress looks like a great deal these days: Huanan Zhi X99TF + E5-2678V3 + 32GB REEC 1333 DDR3. For about $275 all in to Europe; hard to beat in my opinion. All core with Turbo-unlock is 3.3Ghz across 12 Cores/24 threads. A Snowman 6 pipe dual 120mm CPU cooler ($32) will keep the CPU running very cool. My rig never goes above 60C with ambient at or around 20C, even when stressed. Power for such a rig? I suppose a Bronze PSU between 550-600W would be optimal. I always prefer some headroom with my setups and have a 650W Bronze. My setup is excellent for productivity and a decent gamer too...1080P in high settings is its sweet spot, with a decent GPU (GTX 980Ti or above, up to RX 2070 Super).
i made a Ryzen 1600, 16gb ram, B450 motherboard, 1tb HDD, 650w corsair psu for 250.00 =D (cpu, psu, HDD secondhand ) and i just reused my old 980ti GPU. but i do see 970s and 1050ti for like 80 dollars now.
I used to have a case like this with a big side fan. I loved that thing but it was so low quality it used to warp and bend like a tin can. The fan was pretty useful even though I remember it used to suck in enormous amounts of dust. Which meant often cleaning which didn't help with the case warping issue. Fun times!
You can also get white labeled hard drives. They are extremely cheap for large amounts of storage and last a pretty long time. I'm running one in my PC and it's lasted about 5 years so far. Just search up white labeled drives and you find some that are even brand new (just a helpful tip for anyone new to PC building)
loved everything! i built my GF's Daughter a PC pretty much exactly that. I5 3470 Msi RX 470 w/ 24' 1080p monitor, mouse, headset, keyboard, for under $400 about a year ago. She just gave it to her cousin as their first PC. Now she's building a PC that's going to rival mine! My rig (I9 10850k Gigabyte vision 3090) Her new build( I9 10850k and waiting for her GPU but she wants at least a 3070! )
I dig 200mm case fans. Whether two in the front or one on the side. I find 2 on the front and 1 on the side to be that sweet spot. Side fan cools the VRMs and front fans push nice cold air into the case. Mount up a few 140mm back and top fans and you have excellent cooling.
The thorough and objective response to a drink-the-mining-koolaid statement disguised as a "question" restored my confidence in the potential of the Question of the Day segment...keep up the great, value-added content, Bryan!
Im still running a PC I built in 2015, 4790k, 16GB, GTX 970. All I did was increase the OC over the years, first was a memory OC, then the CPU OC, and now the GPU OC. Still holding up, but the memory won't overclock any more, its on the limit. I can still OC the CPU more, the GPU its overheating, I can push it more but I'm sure it will kill it in the long run.
I've coupled a 2640 V3 unlocked at 3,4GHz with a 3060Ti and got great results: on average, over 120fps at 1080p and 90fps at 1440p. The combo I purchased on AliExpress cpu+ram+mobo cost me 170$ and gave me 16Gb of RAM in quad channel ^^
Definitely gonna need to run 1440p with that Xeon on something like a 2060S or 5700XT. Paired one with an undervolted Vega 56 for a while and it struggled to maintain more than about 91-92% utilization at 1080p. 2660v3 came closer though.
Where I live, a Seagate 2TB HDD cost $70 at least 2 months ago when I asked, not even the improved model, one of the previous ones, the WD ones are around that, too, the old models for 480GB SSDs without DRAM cache, including Crucial BX500 (I'd wish they'd bring in the MX500 instead of that, but, they don't) cost all around $50 or a little less. Like the companies which don't innovate their products, these local stores have also fallen into self-complacency and they don't have intention to import better products, you can get better ones from people who's selling and announcing online and they don't have physical stores and sometimes they offer good prices and closer to the MSRP ones.
Nice build Bryan. I owned that case but without the front door for years. Great to see what it looked like complete. Good work for a starter gamer. Cheers, Mon from Brisbane
Great video. This pc is quite close to what I'm currently building. Same cpu, same motherboard. Got a really nice rgb case for 50€ and 32gb of ddr4 ecc ram for 43€. Was going for a 5600xt (because I can't find normal 5700 anywhere), but now that the prices are that high I'm unsure, what to buy. Really nice seeing you as a master in budget-building doing such a similar build. To everyone reading this, have a good 2021. Stay safe and good luck with your builds.
After watching some of your videos and some other budget gaming and tech channels, I started looking out for a used Xeon based system or a Xeon I could build a system around. In early late 2019 I found my Dell Precision T1600 with an E3-1245 and in early 2020 before prices went insane and lockdowns happened I picked up an RX 570 8 GB for about 200 CDN and I have been set from that point on. It also does a great job with video and photo editing, so I am pretty happy. Plus, I had an older Quadro I could sell to take a bit off the purchase price.
Fantastic video! I just recently set up a Kllisre X99-D8 motherboard combo with an e5-2678v3 and 4x8GB DDR4. Absolutely awesome value for ~$300 USD. Haven't figured out the turboboost unlock yet but I'll certainly be testing it out eventually. I'm eagerly waiting for an opportunity to upgrade from my old GTX 1060 to a more modern GPU like an RTX 3060 or even an RX 5700 xt. Seems pretty hopeless with current prices.
If you guys need more cores then there is 2630L v3 for $20 as well, with Turbo Unlock and -100mV undervolt it maintains 2.9GHz with 8 cores/16 threads.
Liked the video! The B-roll was smooth, presentation of performance figures were really nice this time. Hopfully future ones are going to be in a similar style. Also that big sidepanel fan looks FUN!
For spinning rust storage if you're in America, Newegg has various 4 terabyte drives on sale for around/under a hundred dollars U.S. every other week. Just look at their Shell Shocker deals, it's a staple.
Used market is absolutely ridiculous atm but I did get a very good deal this week. Payed €130 for a pc with a basic h81 mobo, i7 4790k, 16gb 1600mhz ddr3, 2x 120gb ssd, 1TB hdd, gtx 750ti, 450w crap psu and a lot of dust. Gave it Some techyes loving and it good to go now. Mobo is not best combo for the i7 but it works fine with no OC. Put it in a Aerocool P7-C1 Pro and now trying to get a decent gpu to go with but it’s so expensive!
@@CommanderTato yeah I did but IMO this is what cpu combos like this should cost (minus the extra’s I got with it). Those i7’s just sell for way to high, in most cases you are better off getting a new ryzen or intel chip. 7700k for example goes for around €200 used and i5 10400f is €160 but yet it still sells.
Xeons are pretty decent. I got an Optiplex 990 sff type pc free from work. I5 2400, 8GB Ddr3...dead PSU. Replaced PSU (about $20), upgraded CPU to Xeon e3 1270 (about $40), zotac gtx 1650 low profile ( about $190 after taxes and such). Still need an ssd but it should be alright for someone to play some esports titles.
Honestly yeah I have a handful xeons just laying around right now and the idea of just putting a few of them into used systems has very much been the mood. Granted they're lga 1366 xeons they're honestly still good for streaming and gaming on call of duty warzone. A 1070 or 1080 tbh make it a perfect machine.
I did the e5-2420 v2 x79 16gb build that you recommended in 2019 I think. Paired it with evga 1050ti. Its still an absolute budget value. I think if I could upgrade the GPU and add in an SSD, I could play APEX legends in 1080p. I have to play it in 720p now. Otherwise other little older games run at 1080p medium to high settings just fine.
Thank you for this, it think people love their content creators but are getting frustrated because a lot of the new hardware shown (very often they reuse the same items from video to video and have not been sent multiple rare parts for review) is always out of stock, at this point budget pcs (price to performance) or repairing and maintaining your current pc is literally the only option.
Another amazing build. These are my favorite builds to do. AliExpress bundles are so much fun to build around and are amazing used price performance. I have more fun building and benchmarking these types of builds over all new high end systems.
Love to see the question of the day stay on the content! It's cool to see random questions getting answered and it keeps people interested I think (at least I find your answers some of the most interesting, because of your perspectives can widen my horizons when looking at different tech-topics)... The RGB, naturally man! How can you even ask? RGB makes everything go faster (BRRRRR)
Been waiting for more used tech yes price/performance builds! You nailed it Brian! Chinese x99 motherboard/xeon ftw! Rx 470 4gb is still fairly good in the U.S. around $80+ dollars. As far as higher end gpus to look into probably rx vega series cards since they still can game pretty well but because they generate alot of heat and higher power consumption, miners pass on those now. Probably gtx 980 ti maybe which still giving gtx 1660 ti/super/rx 5600 xt performance. You and your dad hope continue to stay well and do well in 2021! Keep on doing the great content!
Thank you for the Fortnite benchmarks, I’m actually 22 and I graduated from university last year but I love that game, so seeing these results is very, very useful! Awesome video as always! Thank you. Also, received my Dell Precision T3500 two days ago, upgraded to X58 Xeon W3565 after 4 years with LGA 775, I’m super happy!
Nice build. The X99-platform gives a lot of freedom of choice. I started with X99 quite a few years ago, with a decent second hand motherboard and a Xeon 2630v3, which served me well. It kind of replaced my X58 with a X5650. 2 years ago I switched to a i7 5820k, which are quite cheap right now in my country. I actually qould recommend to start with the 5820k, because it is less than 100$ and gives you quite some more performance than the 2620v3. But be aware that you might want to upgrade the cooler as well with this build. A few weeks ago I switched to the 6950X for about 300$. It is an absolute beast even compared to todays CPUs. With my overclock on the 10-core I am almost as fast as a 9900K according to benchmarks and definitely as fast in Gaming on 1440p+. But GPU prices here are absolute bonkers. A GTX 1080 heavily used sells for 400$US. The 1060 6GB used is almost as pricey as it was once new. RTXs are pretty hard to come by at all. Even the 5700(XT) sells for ~600$US. And the weird thing is, that Mining isn't even profitable, because electricity is also stupidly expensive. So you can buy a very nice and cheap platform with X99 and i7 6 or even 10 cores with lots of memory, but you are stuck with a RX 470-580 for the same price as the rest of the build. This is complete BS.
I personally like the case, yeah it’s not the prettiest but I think it would be cool to mod an old case like that and kinda modernize it. I’ve done that in my $100 gaming pc I gave to a friend for free video. I took an old Acer Aspire case, and cut out the older drive bays, and spray painted it. Turned out pretty well in my opinion.
I think MSRP should be a little bit more binding to prevent markets from getting so out of hand like this for so long -- sort of like a contractual mandate to have at least one base variant of the product at or within a few dollars of the actual suggested price. For example, MSRP is $330 US for an RTX 3060, so then regardless of what souped-up versions exist down the line from board partners (you know like the FTW ULTRA, EXTREME EDITION, or whatever), they would all have to have a relatively standard model of the card in production retailing for $330 US. EDIT: this would obviously not apply to models not in production anymore; hopefully the regulation of the new parts market in this way would influence the used market considerably regarding what they can or can't sell components for.
Well me and a Friend of mine got luckt and grabbed 2 RTX 3070 Vision OC for 560€ in Portugal. 2 Weeks later those same GPUs are selling in stores for over 700€.... RX 6800, one of wich i had ordered and it was cancelled due to lack of stock, were arroun 660€ for the msi gaming X trio and now are selling for over 800..... this market sure is scrwed... Sold my GTX 1080 ti for 350€ ( a good deal for both i think) to a kid who wanted to upgrade his 1050, and right now, in the used market, the same model i sold (aorus Extreme) is selling for over 450€. Good luck everyone who is getting an upgrade, or a new rig. You are gona need it.
Also people want an easy option out for about $450 you can still try and find a GTX 970 on eBay scored one the other day for $134 bought outright and a Dell optiplex 9010 with a 600 watt EVGA power supply for $434 it is the perfect price for performance in the computer came with a 2 TB hard drive and 16 gigs of RAM with Windows 10 pro preinstalled and it was only $200
This will sound horrible, but in Slovenia it has always been like that ... RX 470 cost about 330€ new back in 2016-17 GTX 1060 350-400€. 1€ was about $1.10-1.12 at the time.
Brian Brian Brian on absolute fire in the 2021 exactly what the world needs right now tech yes yes please thank you so much for what you do who You are and your wonderful channel I wish you the best this year take care everyone keep those heads up!
I'd personally go for a 580 4GB or just add like 160 bucks extra and go for a Vega 56 and a more potent PSU and aim for 1440p. Still a budget build but a different league of performance, don't think the CPU would be holding that card back at higher resolutions either. Or, if aiming for workstation performance, leave it as is except using a 2678 v3. I actually built a similar PC to this but with a 570 and the 2678v3 for a friend who uses it for music production. Cannot tell anymore but it might even be the exact same motherboard that's in here.
This is great, and I think many people will appreciate this. The rx 470 is excellent value, as is the price dropped to 65$ lowest (without any ports in the picture though so sus mining) in Korea. Then its 75$ for with dvi and stuff so can't complain. I would really like to see a video on crossfire rx 470/480 or whatnot.
I have a budget PC downstairs in my pool room i like to game on just as much as my main PC, it's an old cooler master case from 2010, G4560 with a hyper 212, B250, 8gb DDR4, 1050ti, 550w Thermaltake, 250gb m.2, optical drive with Memory card readers & a PC speaker so you can hear it post. Haha
I literally have the same build, but I was expecting to have 2*8 ram kit, but I got a 1*16 which did not let me have dual channel, still satisfied with it. edit: I paired it with an RX 570 4GB, the total price of the pc comes to around 18.5k php ($375)
Hello Bryan! Try Xeon E5 2630L V3. Nobody testing this СPU, but it is a budget king in 8 cores 16 threads and absolutely beast if you unlock a turbo boost mode! Just try it mate!
If it were black it would certainly look like one of those Samsung washing Machines. Not that i would mind given the Price. On a budget i even went for used Cases back then. Still better than screwing the Motherboard straigt onto Plywood, which i may or may not have done at some point ;-).
16:45 >> It's not the GPU that is in risk, more the VRAM. These new RTX 3000 (where miners clock to the max) has very fast/hot GDDR6(X). 6 months of 24/7 mining with these running 100+ C memory temps. Cross your fingers...
I just built a R5 1600AF, RX580 4gb, 16GB ram, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD a 500w PSU and a Zalman R2 White PC for like 435€ which i think is a pretty good deal given the curent prices. Also most of the components are new except the MB, RAM and the GPU. What you think?
OK, so question: I have an old AMD 455 Triple core 3.3Ghz, 8GB DDR2, a 1050Ti 4GB.... Would I actually be able to tell much difference shifting up to a Xeon or even a Ryzen? If I'm already running at 3.3Ghz per core.... would a switch to a more modern CPU really make much difference? And given pricing - the 1050Ti is staying put! I do want a new system,, but only because the HDD (from 2004) keeps failing. I could just replace the drive and carry on... But I'm tempted to buy a whole new system (less GFX and PSU).
For my fellow Americans on the east coast, remember the "MarketPro" computer shows? God, those were fun (when the stuff you picked up worked). Bryan would've had a heart attack with all the budget hardware available! Mind you, this was back in the days of Slot-1 CPUs and Pentiums, late 90s, early 00's.
Good video. In a channel full of good videos it's hard to say it's one of your best but if feels like it's up there. And yes, I would like to see you push this system and see where the upgrade paths lie in the future it would make for an interesting series.
I'm not sure if the upgrade path of the 12core cpu is valid. By the time a 8core cpu won't cut it, the IPC of the cpu will be the bottleneck. A bit like AMD FX cpu's are garbage nowadays.
I got one for £59.99 on ebay with free shipping about 12 months ago now. Idk what that is in ur currency but now the same cards cost almost double the money used.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe It will be about 70€/80$. Yeah but still cheap :D now waiting for RTX prices to drop to get used 2070S or new 3060 to play newest games on ultra/high settings with my 144hz monitor :D cuz I only need good GPU to finish my Ryzen 3600 n 32gb ram build
@@Litassa just wait a few months and ATTEMPT to snag a 3060 and if you can't then a 2070 super will perform the same if you can get it for a good price.
What are your thoughts on ETH going "proof of stake" vs. what it is now... "proof of work"? How do you think that will affect the market? Seems like it might put an end to the little guy mining ETH, but it seems like big corps would still be going strong.
Is it just me, or do giant fans on the side of the case look cool?
Some old school cases still look good and cool
digs out HAF case fans...
Not only do they look good but they are insanely good for gpu temps too
But can it play Crysis ?
Reminds me of a side-loading washing machine
The PC market is so broken right now, a 5 year old (mid range at the time) graphics card is one of the best value choices at the moment and its still overpriced.
I'm so glad, that bought 3 months ago used RX580 4Gb for 100€. My plan was RTX3070 or possible Navi for my new PC. Just needed some GPU till that time, but seems that I will be stuck on it for ~1 year. Same card now in my country cost 140 - 160€ used. 8Gb version 200€ used, ~300€ new.
For my old PC, that my wife and kids uses now, 3 years ago Zotac 1060 6Gb was for 320 €. Similar used one goes not bellow 180€. Cheapest new one I found and was in stock from EVGA 1 fan version of GTX1060 6Gb, that sells for 430€. This is insane.
@@kasisppr lol I should sell mine (1060 6gb) LOL I bought 5yrs ago @ $280
AMD's APU's are actually looking way better than they should right now.
So glad I bought a new RX590 last January 2020 for only US$170 from a regional on-line retailer here in Switzerland. Also snagged an MSI GTX 1080Ti in excellent condition for $360 about 2.5 months ago in a local deal. I fear these types of deals are not going to be seen in awhile.
Now considering to sell my backup GPU, an MSI RX570 8GB...in this ridiculous bubble. I suppose I could get between $250 to 300 for this thing...given the heated local market. Insane. Only a few months ago I would've let it go for $120.
My PowerColor RX570 4GB that I paid $130 for noe goes for $309.99?! Was $240 a few months ago even..
xeons, the certified hood classic
Literally
I've actually seen people refer to xeons as such before lol.
Greetings from the Philippines 🇵🇭
Question : i have bought a second hand pc and im suffering with FPS drops. Playing and streaming at the same time causes unbearable FPS drops. Can you guys help me figure out how to get this fixed? Below is the pc built. Thanks in advance.
-Gigabyte X58 extreme MB
-Xeon 5675
-Palit GTX 1070 8gb
-12gb ram ddr3
@@jesussaves4345 use inspectre to disable spectre and meltdown updates also which game are you experiencing this issue in
@@jesussaves4345 also have you overclocked if you haven't I would recommend you tech yes city's x58 oc guide
Some people enjoy a fine wine with their dinner, I enjoy some Tech YES City with mine!
Breakfast for me c:
"GPU MSRP in 2021", greatest joke of the year.
And it’s only January😂
Lol the rx 570 went from $130 new to $250 like wtf
@@jaimenbrunson1652 I got an Gigabyte 8GB RX570 like a month ago. It was under 200 on newegg. Overclocked it and @1200p high settings I get like 40 ish FPS in cyberpunk 2077, with some 20ish drops...Kinda amazing considering what it is. oh CPU is a Ryzen 7 3700x
Never heard of a MSRP gpu before... huhhh???
@@theejoeylee LOL I had absolutely no money almost absolutely no money I make $40 every two weeks I bought a used red devil RX 570 4 GB for $115 I kind of regret the decision but not really the old mining GPUs are not that bad at all the only thing that is considerable to replace is the fans on the card those are the only thing that gets used heavily as long as you throw some new thermal paste on that thing you’re good
You inspire me to make deals and build great computers. I just bought a Thermaltake The Tower 900 with 2 custom loops for gpu and cpu for 150$ (I have no clue how to do hard tubing tho, so I hope I don’t destroy the parts I’ll be using) Keep up the good videos!
GOD DAMNNN what specs and is it usd
@@jibranyar5977 I ordered a I9-10850K, Gigabyte Z490 Vision D, 32GB ram (and keep my old 2060 super for now)
@@TimonRoelandt 1500$?
@@TimonRoelandt I’m sure you ment 1500
@@jibranyar5977 Nope. 150$. I am not kidding lmao. I bought it from a guy that had no clue on how to do custom loops and just wanted to get rid of it.
GPU: $300
Scalpers: $700 sounds fair to me
Scalpers are not to blame, the market price is too high and MSRP too low, that makes scalper's business model viable. Too much demand too little supply.
Change scalpers to miners
1000 now.
@@benjaminandrades8951 don't be shy just reveal that you're a scalper
@@iblamegutschein I wish
Haven't built an Intel box in years but was intrigued by current low prices on Xeons. Had considered them years ago when motherboards were very expensive but now with low cost X79 and X99 boards and Ivy Bridge and Haswell Xeons being plentiful I purchased an E5 2650 v2 eight core and an X79 motherboard for US $101. Already have all the other parts on the shelf including a GT730 card which is fine since I am not into PC games. Am looking forward to seeing how a $17.95 right core Xeon performs. Enjoy your Xeon videos as that is a neglected area here in the states. Avoid the clot shot and stay safe.
Praise to you my man, the best Aussie PC content maker from old days ! I thought I take a min to acknowledge you effort and dedication, this is from another Aussie 🙏👍
Are Xeons a testament that more cores are more future-proof than just high clock speeds?
ive built 3-4 of these PC's as a business and i can tell you from experience that these xeons suck as for gaming as they constantly bottleneck even a gtx 970
If you get xeons based on i7 3rd or 4th gen then they are still good but not the 10 or 11 year old 6 core ones
The v3 exons are currently the best ones as they have high core counts, avx2, and the turbo boost unlock. And if you get one of the ones that has ddr3 support like the 2678v3, you can get 12 cores, 3.3 ghz all core, and 32gb of ram quad channel for about 200 usd
@@arizonarangerwiththebigiro8588 most boards will only really support up to the E3 ones similar to the i7s
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe I mean on the x99 mobos mainly the x99 tf
A combo for $260 (plus shipping) from AliExpress looks like a great deal these days: Huanan Zhi X99TF + E5-2678V3 + 32GB REEC 1333 DDR3. For about $275 all in to Europe; hard to beat in my opinion. All core with Turbo-unlock is 3.3Ghz across 12 Cores/24 threads. A Snowman 6 pipe dual 120mm CPU cooler ($32) will keep the CPU running very cool. My rig never goes above 60C with ambient at or around 20C, even when stressed. Power for such a rig? I suppose a Bronze PSU between 550-600W would be optimal. I always prefer some headroom with my setups and have a 650W Bronze.
My setup is excellent for productivity and a decent gamer too...1080P in high settings is its sweet spot, with a decent GPU (GTX 980Ti or above, up to RX 2070 Super).
Dude that is a decent budget gamer, you built there. 👍👍
My friend: “I should’ve invested in Tesla”
Me: “I regret not investing in graphics cards”
i made a Ryzen 1600, 16gb ram, B450 motherboard, 1tb HDD, 650w corsair psu for 250.00 =D (cpu, psu, HDD secondhand ) and i just reused my old 980ti GPU. but i do see 970s and 1050ti for like 80 dollars now.
I used to have a case like this with a big side fan. I loved that thing but it was so low quality it used to warp and bend like a tin can. The fan was pretty useful even though I remember it used to suck in enormous amounts of dust. Which meant often cleaning which didn't help with the case warping issue. Fun times!
"go buy bitcoin bro" had me laughing
Was it 'bro', or 'brrrrrr'?
:joy: ayy lmao i'm dying bro :joy:
that case is the coolest thing i have seen so far
Finally,someone outside of Russia figured out the power of old Xeon builds)
We have builds like that for YEARS already.
Brian's been doing old Xeon builds for years :). Randomgaminginhd uses them sometimes too.
Hell a lot of us build around old xeons im still doing some on the lga 1366 socket.
maybe you didnt see enough...
Definitely keep doing the question of the day, it's always interesting.
I practically made a similar pc when I found a xeon, then I found your channel and this how it all started!
I dig the command and conquer "Hell's March" outro song. Classic!
You can also get white labeled hard drives. They are extremely cheap for large amounts of storage and last a pretty long time. I'm running one in my PC and it's lasted about 5 years so far. Just search up white labeled drives and you find some that are even brand new
(just a helpful tip for anyone new to PC building)
loved everything! i built my GF's Daughter a PC pretty much exactly that. I5 3470 Msi RX 470 w/ 24' 1080p monitor, mouse, headset, keyboard, for under $400 about a year ago. She just gave it to her cousin as their first PC. Now she's building a PC that's going to rival mine! My rig (I9 10850k Gigabyte vision 3090) Her new build( I9 10850k and waiting for her GPU but she wants at least a 3070! )
Nobody:
Tech Yes City: "Go buy a bitcoin bro!"
Only if you're a rich guy.
Tesla where it at
It's one bitcoin, how much can it cost? Eleven dollars? Or use the money to go see a Star War.
@@Middcore isn’t one Bitcoin like $40k?
@@zekrr5042 And yet no amount of money can buy a sense of humor
This is probably the best Computer/PC Channel on TH-cam. Keep up the great content!
I dig 200mm case fans. Whether two in the front or one on the side. I find 2 on the front and 1 on the side to be that sweet spot. Side fan cools the VRMs and front fans push nice cold air into the case. Mount up a few 140mm back and top fans and you have excellent cooling.
The thorough and objective response to a drink-the-mining-koolaid statement disguised as a "question" restored my confidence in the potential of the Question of the Day segment...keep up the great, value-added content, Bryan!
Im still running a PC I built in 2015, 4790k, 16GB, GTX 970.
All I did was increase the OC over the years, first was a memory OC, then the CPU OC, and now the GPU OC.
Still holding up, but the memory won't overclock any more, its on the limit. I can still OC the CPU more, the GPU its overheating, I can push it more but I'm sure it will kill it in the long run.
people will think this is click bait video, but you nailed it. Great content.
I've coupled a 2640 V3 unlocked at 3,4GHz with a 3060Ti and got great results: on average, over 120fps at 1080p and 90fps at 1440p. The combo I purchased on AliExpress cpu+ram+mobo cost me 170$ and gave me 16Gb of RAM in quad channel ^^
Bro that Command and Conquer music gets me every time. 🤘
Case and psu and cpu my favorite parts. Great video as always thanks.
Definitely gonna need to run 1440p with that Xeon on something like a 2060S or 5700XT. Paired one with an undervolted Vega 56 for a while and it struggled to maintain more than about 91-92% utilization at 1080p. 2660v3 came closer though.
Where I live, a Seagate 2TB HDD cost $70 at least 2 months ago when I asked, not even the improved model, one of the previous ones, the WD ones are around that, too, the old models for 480GB SSDs without DRAM cache, including Crucial BX500 (I'd wish they'd bring in the MX500 instead of that, but, they don't) cost all around $50 or a little less. Like the companies which don't innovate their products, these local stores have also fallen into self-complacency and they don't have intention to import better products, you can get better ones from people who's selling and announcing online and they don't have physical stores and sometimes they offer good prices and closer to the MSRP ones.
Nice build Bryan.
I owned that case but without the front door for years.
Great to see what it looked like complete.
Good work for a starter gamer.
Cheers, Mon from Brisbane
Out of stock and also outside of US, what a time to Be alive
Great video. This pc is quite close to what I'm currently building. Same cpu, same motherboard. Got a really nice rgb case for 50€ and 32gb of ddr4 ecc ram for 43€. Was going for a 5600xt (because I can't find normal 5700 anywhere), but now that the prices are that high I'm unsure, what to buy. Really nice seeing you as a master in budget-building doing such a similar build. To everyone reading this, have a good 2021. Stay safe and good luck with your builds.
Sure, keep the question of the day, even just to interact with the community.
After watching some of your videos and some other budget gaming and tech channels, I started looking out for a used Xeon based system or a Xeon I could build a system around. In early late 2019 I found my Dell Precision T1600 with an E3-1245 and in early 2020 before prices went insane and lockdowns happened I picked up an RX 570 8 GB for about 200 CDN and I have been set from that point on. It also does a great job with video and photo editing, so I am pretty happy. Plus, I had an older Quadro I could sell to take a bit off the purchase price.
it's a sad day in pc building when aliexpress is the only place to get a good deal on pc parts. rip local used markets.
Fantastic video! I just recently set up a Kllisre X99-D8 motherboard combo with an e5-2678v3 and 4x8GB DDR4. Absolutely awesome value for ~$300 USD. Haven't figured out the turboboost unlock yet but I'll certainly be testing it out eventually. I'm eagerly waiting for an opportunity to upgrade from my old GTX 1060 to a more modern GPU like an RTX 3060 or even an RX 5700 xt. Seems pretty hopeless with current prices.
If you guys need more cores then there is 2630L v3 for $20 as well, with Turbo Unlock and -100mV undervolt it maintains 2.9GHz with 8 cores/16 threads.
Liked the video! The B-roll was smooth, presentation of performance figures were really nice this time. Hopfully future ones are going to be in a similar style. Also that big sidepanel fan looks FUN!
For spinning rust storage if you're in America, Newegg has various 4 terabyte drives on sale for around/under a hundred dollars U.S. every other week. Just look at their Shell Shocker deals, it's a staple.
That case is genuinely so cool.
Used market is absolutely ridiculous atm but I did get a very good deal this week. Payed €130 for a pc with a basic h81 mobo, i7 4790k, 16gb 1600mhz ddr3, 2x 120gb ssd, 1TB hdd, gtx 750ti, 450w crap psu and a lot of dust. Gave it Some techyes loving and it good to go now. Mobo is not best combo for the i7 but it works fine with no OC. Put it in a Aerocool P7-C1 Pro and now trying to get a decent gpu to go with but it’s so expensive!
You hit jackpot on that one.
@noob master I can get a different mobo but decent ones go for around €90 alone on the used market in my country.
@@CommanderTato yeah I did but IMO this is what cpu combos like this should cost (minus the extra’s I got with it). Those i7’s just sell for way to high, in most cases you are better off getting a new ryzen or intel chip. 7700k for example goes for around €200 used and i5 10400f is €160 but yet it still sells.
Xeons are pretty decent. I got an Optiplex 990 sff type pc free from work. I5 2400, 8GB Ddr3...dead PSU. Replaced PSU (about $20), upgraded CPU to Xeon e3 1270 (about $40), zotac gtx 1650 low profile ( about $190 after taxes and such). Still need an ssd but it should be alright for someone to play some esports titles.
Honestly yeah I have a handful xeons just laying around right now and the idea of just putting a few of them into used systems has very much been the mood. Granted they're lga 1366 xeons they're honestly still good for streaming and gaming on call of duty warzone. A 1070 or 1080 tbh make it a perfect machine.
thanks for the help. i was gonna buy a pc but my budget is super low. really appreciate it
I did the e5-2420 v2 x79 16gb build that you recommended in 2019 I think. Paired it with evga 1050ti. Its still an absolute budget value. I think if I could upgrade the GPU and add in an SSD, I could play APEX legends in 1080p. I have to play it in 720p now. Otherwise other little older games run at 1080p medium to high settings just fine.
Thank you for this, it think people love their content creators but are getting frustrated because a lot of the new hardware shown (very often they reuse the same items from video to video and have not been sent multiple rare parts for review) is always out of stock, at this point budget pcs (price to performance) or repairing and maintaining your current pc is literally the only option.
I love watching these cheap builds. I’m always fascinated by old tech.
Another amazing build. These are my favorite builds to do. AliExpress bundles are so much fun to build around and are amazing used price performance. I have more fun building and benchmarking these types of builds over all new high end systems.
Thank you for including realistic options. Everyone else starts their "$400 build" with a $300 cpu and just lists the $100 msrp.
Love to see the question of the day stay on the content! It's cool to see random questions getting answered and it keeps people interested I think (at least I find your answers some of the most interesting, because of your perspectives can widen my horizons when looking at different tech-topics)...
The RGB, naturally man! How can you even ask? RGB makes everything go faster (BRRRRR)
The question of the day always caps the videos off so well. Keep them up!
Been waiting for more used tech yes price/performance builds! You nailed it Brian! Chinese x99 motherboard/xeon ftw!
Rx 470 4gb is still fairly good in the U.S. around $80+ dollars. As far as higher end gpus to look into probably rx vega series cards since they still can game pretty well but because they generate alot of heat and higher power consumption, miners pass on those now. Probably gtx 980 ti maybe which still giving gtx 1660 ti/super/rx 5600 xt performance.
You and your dad hope continue to stay well and do well in 2021! Keep on doing the great content!
That's the good ol TYC content I sub your channel ages ago. And this 80s synt pop ... So relaxing man.
Thank you for the Fortnite benchmarks, I’m actually 22 and I graduated from university last year but I love that game, so seeing these results is very, very useful! Awesome video as always! Thank you.
Also, received my Dell Precision T3500 two days ago, upgraded to X58 Xeon W3565 after 4 years with LGA 775, I’m super happy!
Nice build.
The X99-platform gives a lot of freedom of choice. I started with X99 quite a few years ago, with a decent second hand motherboard and a Xeon 2630v3, which served me well. It kind of replaced my X58 with a X5650. 2 years ago I switched to a i7 5820k, which are quite cheap right now in my country. I actually qould recommend to start with the 5820k, because it is less than 100$ and gives you quite some more performance than the 2620v3. But be aware that you might want to upgrade the cooler as well with this build.
A few weeks ago I switched to the 6950X for about 300$. It is an absolute beast even compared to todays CPUs. With my overclock on the 10-core I am almost as fast as a 9900K according to benchmarks and definitely as fast in Gaming on 1440p+.
But GPU prices here are absolute bonkers. A GTX 1080 heavily used sells for 400$US. The 1060 6GB used is almost as pricey as it was once new. RTXs are pretty hard to come by at all. Even the 5700(XT) sells for ~600$US. And the weird thing is, that Mining isn't even profitable, because electricity is also stupidly expensive.
So you can buy a very nice and cheap platform with X99 and i7 6 or even 10 cores with lots of memory, but you are stuck with a RX 470-580 for the same price as the rest of the build. This is complete BS.
I personally like the case, yeah it’s not the prettiest but I think it would be cool to mod an old case like that and kinda modernize it. I’ve done that in my $100 gaming pc I gave to a friend for free video. I took an old Acer Aspire case, and cut out the older drive bays, and spray painted it. Turned out pretty well in my opinion.
love the channel I myself have a E5-2690 8c 16t combo with 32g ram on its way for a build with a 1650 super i luckily found at MSRP
Yeah Xeon content is back!
Gonna be real, I honestly miss the uniqueness of older PC case designs. That thing is friggin awesome looking.
Tech YES Budgeting!
I think MSRP should be a little bit more binding to prevent markets from getting so out of hand like this for so long -- sort of like a contractual mandate to have at least one base variant of the product at or within a few dollars of the actual suggested price. For example, MSRP is $330 US for an RTX 3060, so then regardless of what souped-up versions exist down the line from board partners (you know like the FTW ULTRA, EXTREME EDITION, or whatever), they would all have to have a relatively standard model of the card in production retailing for $330 US.
EDIT: this would obviously not apply to models not in production anymore; hopefully the regulation of the new parts market in this way would influence the used market considerably regarding what they can or can't sell components for.
this was one of the new retro cases you got, very cool
Well me and a Friend of mine got luckt and grabbed 2 RTX 3070 Vision OC for 560€ in Portugal. 2 Weeks later those same GPUs are selling in stores for over 700€.... RX 6800, one of wich i had ordered and it was cancelled due to lack of stock, were arroun 660€ for the msi gaming X trio and now are selling for over 800..... this market sure is scrwed...
Sold my GTX 1080 ti for 350€ ( a good deal for both i think) to a kid who wanted to upgrade his 1050, and right now, in the used market, the same model i sold (aorus Extreme) is selling for over 450€. Good luck everyone who is getting an upgrade, or a new rig. You are gona need it.
i got a used rx470 last year for 75 canadian... still runs like a champ
Also people want an easy option out for about $450 you can still try and find a GTX 970 on eBay scored one the other day for $134 bought outright and a Dell optiplex 9010 with a 600 watt EVGA power supply for $434 it is the perfect price for performance in the computer came with a 2 TB hard drive and 16 gigs of RAM with Windows 10 pro preinstalled and it was only $200
This will sound horrible, but in Slovenia it has always been like that ... RX 470 cost about 330€ new back in 2016-17 GTX 1060 350-400€. 1€ was about $1.10-1.12 at the time.
Brian Brian Brian on absolute fire in the 2021 exactly what the world needs right now tech yes yes please thank you so much for what you do who You are and your wonderful channel I wish you the best this year take care everyone keep those heads up!
I'd personally go for a 580 4GB or just add like 160 bucks extra and go for a Vega 56 and a more potent PSU and aim for 1440p. Still a budget build but a different league of performance, don't think the CPU would be holding that card back at higher resolutions either. Or, if aiming for workstation performance, leave it as is except using a 2678 v3. I actually built a similar PC to this but with a 570 and the 2678v3 for a friend who uses it for music production. Cannot tell anymore but it might even be the exact same motherboard that's in here.
This is great, and I think many people will appreciate this. The rx 470 is excellent value, as is the price dropped to 65$ lowest (without any ports in the picture though so sus mining) in Korea. Then its 75$ for with dvi and stuff so can't complain.
I would really like to see a video on crossfire rx 470/480 or whatnot.
Always enjoy a good Tech Yes budget build! Loving the new rgb, and please don't give up the question of the day I enjoy it for many reasons.
I have a budget PC downstairs in my pool room i like to game on just as much as my main PC, it's an old cooler master case from 2010, G4560 with a hyper 212, B250, 8gb DDR4, 1050ti, 550w Thermaltake, 250gb m.2, optical drive with Memory card readers & a PC speaker so you can hear it post. Haha
thay need to make mass airflow case 200mm fans on side 120mm on front and rear
I literally have the same build, but I was expecting to have 2*8 ram kit, but I got a 1*16 which did not let me have dual channel, still satisfied with it.
edit: I paired it with an RX 570 4GB, the total price of the pc comes to around 18.5k php ($375)
e5-2620 v3 Xeon 6 Core CPU, this part is not terrible. I think this paired with a GTX 1070 or Vega 56 would do nicely for most games out there!
Bryan...your content keeps getting better and better. Great work. Many thanks for this terrific channel! Thumbs up and subscribed, as usual.
Man GPUs are nuts right now. I got a used strix RX 470 8GB a couple years back for US$79 shipped.
I wish cases these days would come with 200MM/20CM slim slide fans, and good mesh filtered front panels for great air cooling.
Hello Bryan! Try Xeon E5 2630L V3. Nobody testing this СPU, but it is a budget king in 8 cores 16 threads and absolutely beast if you unlock a turbo boost mode! Just try it mate!
Case looks like a washing Machine
Yeah, a pretty stylish, cyberpunk-ish washing machine.
If it were black it would certainly look like one of those Samsung washing Machines. Not that i would mind given the Price. On a budget i even went for used Cases back then. Still better than screwing the Motherboard straigt onto Plywood, which i may or may not have done at some point ;-).
Name of the outro song? It's an absolute killer!
16:45 >> It's not the GPU that is in risk, more the VRAM. These new RTX 3000 (where miners clock to the max) has very fast/hot GDDR6(X). 6 months of 24/7 mining with these running 100+ C memory temps. Cross your fingers...
I just built a R5 1600AF, RX580 4gb, 16GB ram, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD a 500w PSU and a Zalman R2 White PC for like 435€ which i think is a pretty good deal given the curent prices. Also most of the components are new except the MB, RAM and the GPU. What you think?
OK, so question: I have an old AMD 455 Triple core 3.3Ghz, 8GB DDR2, a 1050Ti 4GB.... Would I actually be able to tell much difference shifting up to a Xeon or even a Ryzen? If I'm already running at 3.3Ghz per core.... would a switch to a more modern CPU really make much difference? And given pricing - the 1050Ti is staying put! I do want a new system,, but only because the HDD (from 2004) keeps failing. I could just replace the drive and carry on... But I'm tempted to buy a whole new system (less GFX and PSU).
For my fellow Americans on the east coast, remember the "MarketPro" computer shows? God, those were fun (when the stuff you picked up worked). Bryan would've had a heart attack with all the budget hardware available! Mind you, this was back in the days of Slot-1 CPUs and Pentiums, late 90s, early 00's.
My Nvidia Edition HAF X case has a fan on the side to cool the GPU's, it does a good job at it to!
Good video. In a channel full of good videos it's hard to say it's one of your best but if feels like it's up there. And yes, I would like to see you push this system and see where the upgrade paths lie in the future it would make for an interesting series.
I'm not sure if the upgrade path of the 12core cpu is valid. By the time a 8core cpu won't cut it, the IPC of the cpu will be the bottleneck. A bit like AMD FX cpu's are garbage nowadays.
This case actually looks really cool with that side fan
Id love to see you modernize a retro case like that. Give it some upgrades new paint. Tech yes loving??
Average price for just an RX470 4GB is £120 ($215) roughly in the UK at the moment. Even CEX has had its stock cleared out up to a certain price!
Still not giving up my x58 board xeon x5660 still performing great in 2021
Same, x58 is immortal
Damn! I remember when I bought RX 570 4gb ASUS ROG edition for 70$ few years ago :O
I got one for £59.99 on ebay with free shipping about 12 months ago now. Idk what that is in ur currency but now the same cards cost almost double the money used.
Yeah I got a 1060 in 2017 for 75 dollars new I still dont know how.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe It will be about 70€/80$. Yeah but still cheap :D now waiting for RTX prices to drop to get used 2070S or new 3060 to play newest games on ultra/high settings with my 144hz monitor :D cuz I only need good GPU to finish my Ryzen 3600 n 32gb ram build
@@Litassa just wait a few months and ATTEMPT to snag a 3060 and if you can't then a 2070 super will perform the same if you can get it for a good price.
@@JudeTheTH-camPoopersubscribe Yeah, literally waiting right now :D
What are your thoughts on ETH going "proof of stake" vs. what it is now... "proof of work"? How do you think that will affect the market? Seems like it might put an end to the little guy mining ETH, but it seems like big corps would still be going strong.
Ebay has some good prices on 1tb hdd. Around 20-30usd.
By the way. Nice job Brian. The best TH-camr out there !!!!! Period!