The EXTRAORDINARY Meeting Between Alexander the Great and Diogenes the Cynic
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- The famous encounter between the conqueror Alexander the Great and the philosopher Diogenes in Corinth contrasted their power and wisdom. When Alexander asked if he could do anything for the philosopher, Diogenes replied: "Yes, step aside, you're blocking the sun." Admiring Diogenes' indifference to power, Alexander said: "If I weren't Alexander, I would like to be Diogenes."
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Alexander: "Hello, I am Alexander, heir to the crown of Macedonia, war hero and general... Many people say Im pretty Great.
If you'd like anything, I would be happy to give it to you."
Diogenes: "Cool story bro, could you step aside? You're blocking my sunlight".
Alexander:🗿
Homeless man told ancient Greek king Arthur to talk to the hand
I believe this was before Alexanders conquests and military career
@@BigChungus-ly8ym He was already being hailed as a great warrior when he met Diogenes, but you are right in that he had not yet accomplished most of what he will later be known for. But I don't think it would have mattered in the least. Diogenes was not impressed by great men or great accomplishments. He believed that pursuing any course other than that of what he called "a natural life" was simply foolish and a waste of time. To Diogenes, Alexander's conquest of Persia would have simply been evidence of the foolishness of "great men."
Diogenes really couldn't care who you are
As free as a dog, who doesn't care if you are a king or a pauper.
*That* would likely alone get Alexander to admire this guy's courage and personal standards; to tell him to his face that all his monarch of the time is is simply another guy- that's also ironically the *safest* approach Alexander the Great could do today, or in any situation where the primary mindset is one of revolutionaries: we won't care at all who he is if he's not interpretted by us as a hubristic threat- he's then a prospective business partner; one you avoid if you have to, and deal with respectfully if you have to- simply another guy on the street, but one therefore you categorically do NOT move against, if only for that very same principle!
@@Seekstae Hardly at that.
"If I was Alexander, I would want to be diogenes as well"
- Diogenes
Dude was unfazed by a king but me personally if I met Marcus Aquino I would lose my mind
Two legends crossing paths
I've been studying the life of Alexander The Great since 7th grade and I've never heard this story before. I also never knew that "cynic" meant "dog-like", this completely changes the context of the word and the aspect of cynicism for me going forward. Thank you for uploading this.
Alexander had a fanboy moment. He was clearly a true fan of Diogenes the Cynic.
@@MayanFrighter100000 Honestly? I firmly believe Alexander thought this whole conversation was the funniest thing. This probably didn't offend Him in the slightest
Greeks of his day admired thinking men, wisemen who were also philosophers, he may well have been this guy's student come to think of it.
I doubt he had a fanboy moment.
He probably didnt share the "bum philosophy" of Diogenes..
He was a super powerful guy, he probably liked the perks wich came along his position too much to envy a bum.
Because it is what he was, and he embraced it, he didnt mind. Im not being offensive just realistic, living on the streets is no laughing matter, probably many ppl helped him and he didnt mind also, (maybe he didnt liked to work too!? 😂 who knows..)
@@pagodebregaeforro2803 Alexander was not an adherent of the Cynic philosophical school. That's pretty obvious for a number of reasons. However, based on Alexander's love of Dionysos, I believe He admired Diogenes' outspokenness and his countercultural lifestyle. Diogenes willingly rejected the niceties of civilization to make a philosophical point regarding how little one truly needs to survive in life. He was a believer in the idea that humanity has overcomplicated life and we ought to return to more natural ways of living. Alexander probably respected Diogenes' commitment to his philosophy and his wit. I think He truly meant what He said that if He weren't Alexander He would want to be someone like Diogenes.
@@pagodebregaeforro2803 Yeah, yet he clearly admired this one particular individual.
Diogenes is first disser in history
real
1st troll
When asked how he wished to be buried, he left instructions to be thrown outside the city wall so that wild animals could feast on his body. When asked if he minded this, he said, "Not at all, as long as you provide me with a stick to chase the creatures away!" When asked how he could use the stick since he would lack awareness, he replied: "If I lack awareness, then why should I care what happens to me when I am dead?"
Diogenes didn’t give a f***
0:00 Two Royal Guard and Alexander are walking to search.
0:21 A old man homeless Cynic was holding a light lantern.
0:47 Wow he's hold light lantern too close hurt his eyes at night.
1:52 Cynic was behind him Alexander.
2:17 Really Cynic reject his offer.
2:35 Now Alexander and Cynic are talk with walk.
👏 Well. That was great impressive story about The EXTRAORDINARY Meeting Between Alexander the Great and Diogenes the Cynic.
u ok?
Diogenes the Chad
*That* Greek wiseman said to him that if he could ask him for *anything at all* he'd ask him to his face to move aside as he was standing in the light at the time: be content with the simple things was that Greek wiseman's advice to Alexander.
God I love Diogenes ❤️❤️❤️
(2:10)-“Yeah, sunlight was making me contented already-why’d you ruin it?!”🤣based af
Plis make more movies about saints
Alexander's birthday was a couple of days ago, just in time for the final act.🎂🥳
Diogenes is what every man, if truly free inwardly, would like to be. That's why even Alexander himself wanted to be like him.
This meeting between Diogenes and Alexander had a lot more interesting things to it than what mentioned in the video.
Diogenes was trying to tell Alexander to be a good King for his people.
Knowing that Alexander was seeking glory and will try to conquer the Persian empire he told him the most interesting thing:
"Even if you pass by the Pillars of Heracles (at Gibraltar) and cross over the whole Ocean (he means Atlantic ocean) and conquer that CONTINENT after it that is bigger than Asia (he means AMERICA!!) you will still be nothing if you are not food to your people."
Diogenes *KNEW ABOUT AMERICA* .
And that means Alexander knew ir too because he never asked him about it.
@@hariszark7396 Source?
@@WildMen4444 get a copy of the meeting between Alexander and Diogenes with the ancient text on the side.
I don't know what English edition you will find.
I have the Greek one.
@@hariszark7396 Well sure but what's it called and who wrote it?
@@WildMen4444 Δίων Προυσαεύς ή Χρυσόστομος (Dion from Prusa or Dion Goldmouth) I don't know if it is correct in English.
ancients greeks were indeed aware of America from even Mycaenean times i could say, there are some theories based on evidence that say that Greeks traveled to America
please read the whole dialect. Diogenes talks to Alexander about America. Find the part and don't stop where everybody stops.
Good video
Wow orginal text in "Greek" ảnookótnoóv-Aposkotison
but Im an Albanian🇦🇱 and looks so easy to understand this text:
"A po shkon te shoh"- eng: are you going to see, or please move to see sunlight or get out of sunlight" -
In Greek does have any meaning.
i study greek my entire life, every dialect of greek that is, every dialect of every era of greek history and what i know is that aposkoteson me in Greek legit comes from apo (from) and skotos (darkness) and me which means... ''me'', so aposkoteson me in Greek legit means smth like ''get the darkness away from me''. Claiming that in Greek doesnt have any meaning probably means that you claim yourself to know Greek, but do you really? You seem to only know Albanian, a kinda old (late medieval times) language that yet is just mixed, such language didnt even exist in the times of Alexander.
All the work Alexander went through just so his generals can undermine his legacy. Hera Did get her revenge after all.
To be fair, I think Alexander didn't care too much what happened after His death. He didn't name an heir and simply said His empire should go to "the best". He had already accomplished what He truly wanted
Alexander could conquer the Persian Empire only because it did not have high grade cohesion. Even without Greece it was too huge. It was unreasonable to think this cohesion could be achieved in a lifetime.
How is Hera related to the story?
@@mikloscsuvar6097It's said that Alexander was actually the son of Zeus-Ammon and that Olympias (Alexander's mother) encouraged Alexander to believe this
Did Diogenes' words *move* Alexander?
How about a dictionary of definition translation, Story exist that "Alexander is Zulqarnain" in other language, could it be like "Joseph is Yusoff", "Jacob is Ya'koob", "Jesus is Isa", "Ibrahim is Abraham"? Where is Alexander living at? Who are the people of Alexander? Will any of them meet me?
Iskandar Dhu-Al Qarnayn is Alexander, the people of Alexander are the Hellenes (Greeks) and if you wanna meet Alexander's people just visit Greece mate.
Hail to the Divine Alexander the Great!
His name struck fear into hearts of men
Honestly I was much better.
@@augustuscaesar8287 Augustus actually held Alexander in great reverence. After the Battle of Actium, Augustus visited the tomb of Alexander in Alexandria to pay homage much like Julius Caesar had done years prior.
@@augustuscaesar8287 All that being said, I might as throw this out there since you bring Him up.
Ave Divus Augustus!
@@WildMen4444 Gratias tibi mēo amico. I know, it's true, Augustus did visit the tomb of Alexander to pay respects. Anybody, such as myself, claiming Augustus is greater than Alexander should probably mention legacy. Alexanders empire disintegrated the second he died, whereas Augustus' empire lasted 1,479 years, a little more than 1,400 years after he died.
There are times I'm like Diogenes. Don't give a lot of crud over small things.
Diogenes replied, "If I was not Diogenes, I would still be Diogenes." Now they call this a syndrome.
Cave Diogenes!
Diogenes el Perro
You're actually correct. The word "Cynic" is derived from the Greek word for "dog".
❤🤍💙 all your video's mate👍
No doubt that the old cynic was full
of life wisdom.
But most importantly, he had good luck
of meeting an open-minded and kind
Alexander that he can tolerate his
rudeness. Otherwise, we all know
the consequence and this anecdote
would not handed down.
Diogenes, just one of philosophers who want to be "just leave me alone".
Oohh... Alexandros already have Aristotle as his teacher, Aristokles as his grandteacher, and Socrates as their teacher
im glad you used Plato's actual name, gg's
@@Aggros-u9y thank you, yes, years ago, when I read why some other called him Plato, I decided to stop call him or using it, then in read and search his real name, after that and till now, I tell to my friends, brothers and sisters to only call him Aristokles, not Plato
Amazing
Not one’s brightest moment the decision to alleviate himself in public. The desire to shock remains the trace of an inflated ego, despite all the showings.
according to diogenes, needing to build something private to do what other animals do in public is a sign of an inflated ego. way to miss the point of what diogenes was about
He's known as a fool in ancient greece getting disdained by almost everyone. Only the future generation are able to comprehend without bias towards it but his story was meant to tell he was the biggest loser and fool known at that time. There is a reason he is known as a cynic.
There's a man who lives like him on the Phillopapou hill opposite the Acropolis...!!!
He tried to give the man who wanted nothing, something. I don't think Alexander understand Diogenes.
@@Reoh0z I mean, He literally just met the guy. Cut Him some slack
He was testing to see if what he was taught was true. That's always a good idea.
Reddit tier philosopher
I could see one of those Reddit guys, chillin in their barrel when everybody starts freaking out, so they start doing the Sisyphus thing as to look like they're a part of it.
YES!!!!!
He's more of a nice honey-badger than dog because he don't care who you are.
Imagine Diogenes saying that to Nero 💀
@@raantas946 Considering the kind of people Nero liked to hang out with, I feel like Nero would have thought Diogenes was just being funny.
Caligula, on the other hand, might not have been so kind (if the stories are to be believed). Not even out of offense either but rather as a way to return the favor.
In all likelihood it never occurred, just an apocryphal tale !!
Alexander the Great meets Diogenes the Greater.
Oda please make Diogenes a One Piece character.
So aoeme and legnondary
Why is Alexander dressed as a Roman?
becuase he was Greek, and Romans copied the greek drip.
King recognises King.
minimalism to the max
Alexander by move out of the way that casting the shadow is giving the sum ray to Diogenes.
Can you imagine what he think of todays world 😅😅😅.. ahh well 🤷♂️ back to playing the Elden Ring dlc 😅😅😅😂😂😂
@@MatchstickDaddy Diogenes would have a field day tearing apart what's wrong with society today
He Offered everything but actually brought nothing !
EIRENE
THE GODDESS OF PEACE
@@SuperGreatSphinx Hail Eirene!
*Heirene
Edgardo Montaro
Diogenes - Mastered the art of not giving a sh*t!👏👏
Early af boi
Diogenes was the most famous homeless man in history.
Yo preferiría ser Diógenes
None of this happened
DINGUERIE
Eh aquí un hombre 🐥🐔🐓
Not impressed by Diogenes.
Nietzsche
It was not a child, but a dog. Get your facts correct before you assert yourself as some educator. Many a mistake in this video.
@@charlotteh8174 Diogenes Laertius, Life of Diogenes of Sinope
"On one occasion he saw a child drinking out of its hands, and so he threw away the cup which belonged to his wallet, saying, "That child has beaten me in simplicity."
Sometimes important people crave to be treated like a lower born.
@@TRUMP20Z4 I don't think it was that. I think Alexander just thought Diogenes was a funny guy.
@@WildMen4444 we will never know
Diogenes was an aristocrat and owned slaves. He freed them and gave away everything. How do you determine who is important and who is not?
@@WildMen4444When asked how he wished to be buried, he left instructions to be thrown outside the city wall so that wild animals could feast on his body. When asked if he minded this, he said, "Not at all, as long as you provide me with a stick to chase the creatures away!" When asked how he could use the stick since he would lack awareness, he replied: "If I lack awareness, then why should I care what happens to me when I am dead?"
@@FrankBurnham I guess everyone is important.
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