What do you think about Sick Sebi and Niklas Schmidt riding Brendan Fairclough's line? 🤔 [Help Martyn] he's writing a script on 'the dangers of Mountain Biking': Do you feel like you are taking risks when you are riding? Are you riding within your limit? If you do take risks, what is the reason why you do it?
1). Do I feel like I am taking serious risks when I am riding? Yes, daily: In traffic, on my commute - and that's just normal legal road cycling. As for mountain biking, I'm not really capable enough of taking huge risks like this when off-road, my kids though are increasingly pushing it. 2) Duplicating Brendogs run? I think It's a bit like copying a Banksy with a cheap copied stencil. Can you do it?, yes you can. If you can do it safely, it's yours to enjoy, no harm in that. Should you expect praise for it, and publicise it? Maybe not. It wasn't your idea and a lot of work went into creating and building the vision. 3) Could the publicity of copycats to Brendog's run lead to inexperienced attempts and a serious accident? Hopefully not, but if that happens the media will likely refer to it as " Rampage's Brendogs line"; not a worn out unofficial line with no safety precautions that numerous people have been riding since.
I am 71 and every ride I do is a risk. Every ride I test my limits. My limit has changed since I was 30 At 71 if I booger something up my recovery time is much longer that it was even 10 years ago. I do not want to lose a lot of riding time trying something that is simply an attempt to prove something. If people want to test their limits to the breaking point, more power to them. Just do not expect me to be responsible for their hospital bills.
Brendan’s line looks fun. I may drive down there and run it myself. What’s life without risks? We take less calculated risks every time we drive somewhere. After 40 years of mountain climbing / biking / kayaking / backcountry hunting and fishing I know how to control the variables. My mind is quiet, I flow with the moment. I have no responsibility to care for anyone but myself. If I had young children the equation would be different. As I am a Taoist monk with a drive to live each moment to its fullest, I dance with the elementals. Much love everyone, take care ☯️🙏
Isn't the whole point of freeride conquering lines never ridden before? Brendan did it first and the milestone is set in stone. Same goes for Brendon always upping the tricks quality and driving the difficulty scores. What was 10 out of 10 last year can't be worth more than 9 now.
So far all people that ever lived, except those which are currently alive, died. What danger are we talking about? On less nihilistic note, if you go all gaming and no excercise for some years, you'll end up with health problems as well. How dangerous mountain biking is depends only on how you do it and what is too dangerous is to cetrain level subjective. I've injured myself during all sorts of activities and MTB in my case doesn't appear to be more dangerous than other things (he typed with injured wrist he got practising bunnyhopping without even crashing). I don't take risks intentionaly much. When something goes wrong it's because my poor judgement usualy. Reason for taking risk is for me that the result will feel good if it goes ok and I'm confident it will go ok.
No, it's not disrespectful. These are adults riding their bikes on public land; that's all it is. The idea that somebody can build jumps/lines on public land and nobody else should ride them is BS. Build the lines on private land and then nobody will ride them.
@silviodeangelis1342 The deconstruction of the lines will significantly add to the destruction of such a fragile ecosystem already damaged by the event. Leaving them to be modded for next year is a better option environmentally. Many structures will also add shelter to several species as new homes. As for others having a go .... Let them ride it if they have the skills and equipment for it because having a bit of fun is perfectly legal on this area. * More people get injured or killed just crossing the road annually than on mountain bikes on these sorts of obstacles so should we ban that sort of "risky behaviour" too???🤣
I think that its not disrespectful, it can't be, and as much as i like marten and the rest, who are they to judge. People get inspired all the time by tricks and stuff. You see something and want to try it and in a way pay homage to the person who thought of it. If we think about it the first mountain biker isn't being disrespected because people keep copying them. It takes something special to think of a line like that and do it which should be praised although modifying public land shouldn't be allowed and cause the person to be arrested and go to court for a hefty fine. To be fair events like these shouldn't be on or anywhere near public land at all as that land is for everyone's use and not just for a few. Many won't agree with me but I'm not asking their opinion.
It's like rock climbing. Someone works on a line and makes the first ascent, and others follow. There is no disrespect; it validates the effort and accomplishment.
Absolutely. Also the idea that the person following is somehow degrading the first person and downplaying the difficulty is obviously rubbish too .. we all know that the first attempt to free something is just so different to every other attempt that follows. It's just not the same. Instead they can offer some objective opinions on the difficulty.
No disrespect to Brendog. For me this is The essence of free riding. One person is literally a trailblazer, showing what’s possible and making it possible for others to push their personal limits.
It does seem that previous Rampage lines and spots, plus spots from video parts over the years simply add to the history and culture. Many of the Utah local shredders seem to be very respectful of Freeride culture and crediting the riders and or builders that built and paved the way. Though unfortunately there have been a few instances or misunderstanding in recent years. What do you think about Martyn's comment about it being possibly too close to the event?
@@gmbn Martyn has a point, but only in a "social media age"-kind of way. If I ride up Mont Ventoux a day after the tour, I am not taking away anything from anyone.
@@tjpighin it's not about the invention of anything new. Not a single trick on that day was a first ever. It's about riding down a gnarly piece of hill in an unique fashion.
@@e27ap that is a completly false statement. All of the top riders did nbd's. T mac's new canyon gap, tvs biggest ff off a step down ever, Brandon's switch whip double drop, godziuk bigger flip step-down. Then to add to all of those, there is personal nbds. Sorge has never packed that many big hit tricks in a row in a run and has never done them off of that large of features before. Contrary to the bf mafia's new idea about what rampage is, it's actually about progression. Progression of the sport and what is possible on a mountain bike and also progression from each individual rider on a big mountain platform. To my knowledge, bf was the only one that didn't progress but expected to get progressive marks. He did a line that he mostly copied from another rider 6 years previous except he downgraded the some of the features. He repeated his banger from 5 years ago. And he definitely had a more challenging and less groomed "chute" or steep decent than in previous years. Then to top it alllll off, he was one of the most tentative riders going down the mountain with people on foot able to keep pace with him. None of those features are conducive to rampage. Judges nailed the scores. His run was a nice film festival style run, but it got scored accordingly. Maybe he could have gotten a couple more points, but not enough to move him up at all.
I agree the fact the brendogs line has bought people in from abroad is testament to how well they did building the line, he was still robbed by the way
How they groomed the line for average riders to be able to ride the line on trail bikes. Praise judges for speaking the truth and not bowing down to the trolls in the bf mafia. Such a great build for an average rider
When I ride, I’m definitely riding within my limits, probably too much! But always have it the back of my head if I get injured bad enough I can’t work, I don’t get paid…
At 57, risk and progression of skills is merely keeping the palette of skills I've amassed over 40 years of mountain biking and motorbiking. Kinetic sports are always 'too dangerous', as physics does not care about your skills, preparation, or experise - it's not 'if' but a matter of 'when', you will run out of luck, talent or more typically, a volatile mix of both. Me? I've stopped doing any stunt where I'd have to leap over the bar and onto the ground more than 3' off the ground - I just don't want that abuse on my creaky skeleton anymore! It's kinda nice to be on the downward arc of my biking 'career' as I don't have to constantly prove to myself that I can still push into the unknown....
Ya like last year when he attached his name onto thw battleship. Then he double tire cased it even when he saw it done by someone else first. Just an average rider doing average things
Easy to forget that sitting on the couch or hunched over a desk can also kill you - crossing the road, eating hard to chew food etc. My wife's friend shattered her ankle in the gym from improperly assemble equipment. There is always risk. No body is forcing you to ride like you're doing Rampage, but having stuff like that exist makes it more interesting, bikes are better quality for it. It's part of human nature to go bigger/stronger/longer etc. Also, are we all missing how good the guy is to even ride Brendan's line? How good is that??!
If I were brendog and that were my line, I would be proud. The day rampage becomes riding trails that no-one else in the world can do is the day it becomes too risky.
Everyone else in thw world can ride it. Did you not listen to this story? Average Joe's on trail bikes. You don't see them doing thw other lines do you. Delulu bf mafia
When I was riding at the ages of 10 - 25 there were NO limits. Now that I am 43 I purposely put limits on myself because I have a career and family that relies on me to take care of them... Mountain Biking doesn't pay the bills... Risk are naturally inherent with riding and when you're 40 and hurting yourself it takes THAT MUCH LONGER to heal and recover.. I cannot push myself like I used to - it sucks but I understand the risks associated with mountain biking and what it means to me and my family.
My favorite riding now is my gravel bike with 2.0 racekings on old xc trails. Proper fun, proper quick, low consequence. I think riding within your skills is important whether riding trails or descending gravel at 50mph, or climbing 10k in a day without the fitness to do it.
I'm a 67 year old rider. I tell people on the trails - If this sport were around in the mid-seventies, I'd be a hall of famer or dead by now! I know my limitations, yet I push them still. I crash, but I'm not usually in any real danger with the speeds I travel. I have Hunter S. Thompson's quote firmly embedded in my mind....Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.
No, I don't think it being disrespectful for them to ride. Brendon line. Mountain biking is only as dangerous as you make it. I take risks every ride, but they are calculated risk.Every time you go out your door, it risk but that doesn't stop us. Risk assessment is also a skill that we all have to learn, whether it is in extreme sports or daily life.
I don’t think it’s disrespectful, it’s a mark of respect that people want to ride Brendog’s line. Two things worth thinking about are: 1. The design and build come from the imagination of the team that built it, so it’s easy to ride it after the fact and disrespect the work that went into it. 2. Brendog flipped that canyon gap… just saying
For sure, hopefully this line (and others) will hopefully remain and be a part of freeride history forever. We can understand that some riders/builders destroy the lips if they believe that someone might get seriously injured though!
#CAPTIONCONTEST Martyn glues his hand to his face for a permanent face-palm after bodged impression of beloved British broadcasting icon, David Attenborough.
I’m an amateur rider. Wouldn’t even stand on top of some of that stuff on Brendan’s line. Them guys are no amateur. Maybe they don’t get paid to ride. But they are not amateurs
There is a LOT of great unseen tallent in mountain biking, especially in Utah! Having a rich history of freeride features from events such as Rampage and video parts must help with that
If you don't want someone to ride your line, build it on private property or destroy it after. Otherwise it's open game. If you don't like it, you don't respect freedom.
Wtf?!! Disrespect? Makes absolutely no sense to say it was disrespectful. Good for him for trying and doing. If anything we should celebrate he did it for the pure joy and love of riding, not for money, not for fame, not as a “professional”, just pure love.
@@gmbn Break happened last September, had surgery with plates etc, I was back on the bike 12 weeks later. Then had a round of problems with my ulna nerve and had to get the hardware removed again plus nerve transposed in March, another 8 weeks or so before I could ride again after that.
Everyone takes risks all the time. Some people's risk is just not exercising. I just fractured my ankle riding a trail I've ridden more than a hundred times. Looking forward to get riding again.
@@gmbn I've been out 2 weeks already, have 4 more weeks until the follow up dr appointment. Not sure how capable that leg will be right away, and winter may shut down the trails before I get back into it. Yeah I'll be back at that trail fairly soon after I'm able to ride again.
I don’t think it’s disrespectful at all. Quite the contrary, these guys have honoured Brendan. The caption was very humbly written IMO. MTB is dangerous and I’m a very below average rider - my trails are sand/gravel and I literally come off every ride, often more than once. Luckily I am a master at landing! *Touch wood, I’ve never broken anything but have lost a lot of bark, a modicum of blood, and collected heaps of bumps, lumps, and bruises but at 60yo (having started at 55) I think I’m starting to push my luck. I find I’m riding my roadie & my Kickr bike a lot more now, mostly for safety considerations. The Australian bush is my first love so I adore mountain biking, I just don’t do as much now.
I’m learning slab track at dyfi at the moment and would ride anything I find that I have calculated I think I can do It pushes your physically and mentally and I love that I think your forgetting how rampage started, people going out to the desert with no safety crew and seeing what they can do
I firmly believe in making calculated risk assessments, especially in enduro. I had to pull out of the SA Champs due to overtraining the day before and getting hit with heatstroke. Stepping back, even when it’s tough, can make all the difference. MTB can be dangerous, but we have to keep a clear head, stay safe, and make smart judgment calls. 👍😎
It's cool that they went and rode his line. It inspired them. I try to push my riding to get better. Hold up, that Transition Sentinel looks almost identical to the 2023 Vitus Escarpe. I did a double take when it came up.
It seems to go back to the question “is freeride seeing your own line down the mountain, building it, and riding it or is it just to ride the gnarliest thing you can?” If it’s up to Rampage, re-riding your own past lines or other people’s lines is fine and riding lines you’re comfortable enough to do crazy tricks on is fine. The price of being an innovator is that someone will always come along and do what you did. At best, it’s an homage. No one can say that those guys riding Fairclough’s line puts them anywhere near Fairclough.
I'm 50 and my sons just getting me into 'proper' mountain biking, I.e. bike parks, jumps, drops etc. Of course it's a risk every time I do it but it's fun doing it with him, and I am getting better so should be better equipped to manage the risks... maybe
i can't ride anymore due to unrelated health issues, but when i did it was all about pushing my limits and finding the edge. Broke 12 bones and snapped 3 ligaments but not once did i want to pack it in, the danger and risk of the sport was the main thing i liked about it. I have a few things in common with Martyn so feel free to reach out if you would like some more detailed input.
Great line, Bren should be honoured that 2 pinners chose to ride his line, yeah they dabbed on bits and didn't flip the canyon but mad respect. They could easy straight air the drops to massive landings, it's far more challenging for them to ride the only tech line on the hill.
Be real, that’s not a $500 bike. Just because he had a connection and paid that, doesn’t mean that the value and capability of the bike. Honesty is the best policy.
@@gmbn it was clearly in good condition enough to ride rampage lines. The fork alone could be sold for that price, regardless of condition (they clearly worked just fine). I could buy a 2020 Toyota from my brother for $1 and claim I did the rubicon in a $1 truck. But that’s a bold face lie, it’s not a $1 truck. The dude saying he did Brendogs line on a $500 bike(which it definitely is not if you are being real) is hugely disrespectful to Brendan.
They say that Imitation is the ultimate form of flattery. So with this in mind, i don't think it's disrespectful at all. One thing to keep in mind is that many people seek progression. Many of the locals over in Virgin Utah ride the old rampage lines as a way to test themselves and progress.
So Martin, should the resorts destroy the world cup DH tracks after the race? I've ridden about half of the Snowshoe dh track. Which I can register to ride in our local South East DH series 🤷♂️
How is riding someone's Rampage line disrespectful? I would be gleeful if I made a line like that and it was the choice of others to ride it after me! Inspiring others to do great rides is great.
incremental is my favorite word, helps with risk management. i love to push my limits, it's called growth! when i am tired, i am likely to make mistakes - a good time to not try something new for me : )
The only thing im little bit worried is what if people started building their own lines because it was "Public land" or secretly building features for other rampage riders for them to use next year in that venue. Yes I know it will deteriorate as the weather goes but it would be easier to refine it later
Knowing your limits and when to push them is for people who don't ride mountain bikes. SEND IT. My other favorite is speed is your friend. LoL Gravity, however, is a demon who hates me. Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the ride
Freedom is so precious We should be free to ride however whatever we like as long as it doesn’t disturb or harm wildlife or wildlife’s habitat. But it is important to build up gradually to stuff if we want to try it and not try things we are not ready for.
Higher chance of being in a car crash getting to and from the trials than riding the trials. I don’t ride like I use to in my teenage years and that is due to family commitments and recovery.
I used to race BMX in the 80’s naturally progressed to MTB in gave up riding parks etc a few years back mainly because of the risk,i had one too many near crashes and basically lost my bottle,still ride XC on the moors but definitely had a shift in mindset and i am more aware of the dangers.
I agree with Martyn on the who won the Hacks. I'm not going to build a rack but I can sure put frozen grapes in my water bottle. I do however disagree with him on pushing yourself. If you aren't getting injured, you're not trying hard enough. 😉
re-naturalizing the lines AFTER rampage is a great idea. Not only does it completely even the playing field for everyone, but it also brings some of that freestyle spirit back and encourages participants to try something different. That way they aren't just riding the same lines year after year (even if one or two features are added). The only downside I could see is that doing it in the same venue year after year could really take a toll on the mountain. The guy that rode brendon's line makes a really good point. MTB has come a long way since rampage started, so is that level of competitiveness with lines really a piece we should hang onto? Surely it wouldn't hurt to at least open old or unused parts of your line to others from previous years.
8:31 Fox's Lunar lineup.....Actually bought the 'Lunar' Speedframe Pro a few weeks ago (bought a new Transition Relay alloy and bike shop said pick a helmet for free). I had no idea how iridescent the paint on the sides is, and it's really quite spectacular in the sunlight and at night - I'm a bit flabberghasted by how they did this. Glad you all posted this info, because I tried looking it up weeks ago and found nothing online - guess the secret is out. Gonna check out the other Lunar gear, as winter riding season is one of my favorite seasons.
I would love to take more risks when riding to maximise progression, but I need to be able to go to work. I am self employed, and I cannot afford to take time off to nurse broken body parts.
and you know what that is totally fine. mtb is about calculating risk, and choosing if something is worth it for you. i have walked away from things, because the risk calculation was just terrible.
You have it absolutely right Martyn, if something has been specifically built for a professional riders at an event when they have expert medical professional assistance, but that that said free riding is dangerous, and many of those people that are attracted to it do so because of the danger and the buzz they get, they say is like an addict getting their fix. So they generally go into it knowing how dangerous it can be. Or other frozen fruit if you not a fan of grapes, or just a fan of the Build of the slide out rack. try rich ICF International Canicross Federation, and that sort of racing started as summer Sled dog training.
As an average rider who is currently recovering from a pretty nasty forearm and wrist fracture I’ll say it’s most definitely a risk, especially when you’re pushing your abilities, no matter your level. But the inherent risk is part of what makes this sport so addictive.
I think it’s important for some humans to have places to push themselves outside of inherit risk. Having the knowledge crew and capability to make calculated decisions and risk is the variable and foresight needed. Success is a relative term skill is often a perception of a lot of math and hard work. Few are Steezy in its true form.
I think I'm not the only one when I'll say I enjoy riding on edge the most. Chill rides are great but remember that ride when you were balancing on the edge of crashing half the time? The ride that pumped so much adrenaline into you that your hand were trembling afterwards? The nervous laugh when you just barely saved yourself from going into a tree full speed? Yeah, that ride.
Not disrespectful. All MTB event headlines, good and bad, give it the notoriety it deserves. I ride on the edge of my abilty. Usually within my limits and sometimes pushing progression. ❤
Mountain Biking is meant as an extreme sport. The draw and appeal of any extreme sport is the calculated risk you take in pursuit of an adrenaline rush. So IS it too dangerous, not in and of itself. CAN it be too dangerous, absolutely, that is why we do it. The key is too mitigate risks as much as possible, know your own limits, and don't go beyond them. That said, progress is made by pushing limits and taking risk. So, we get better and advance the sport by the risks we take. From my experience, take it back to a point Martyn made. The best time and way to push your limits, is to take group rides with a large group people that are next level. My first couple years of riding dirt bikes, I would go out with a group of 6-10 riders of varying experience, some of us with advanced medical training and equipment. The most experienced riders would choose trails and obstacles that most of us thought couldn't be ridden on a motorcycle, and then walk us through exactly how to do it safely and in a controlled manner. I learned a TON more than if I had attempted those things on my own.
Guys to be honest, Sick Sebi and Niklas Schmidt lets see them build and ride a line for the first time. Thats the issue. When somebody builds and rides a line for the first time it shows whats possible, so others will follow, BUT they were not the trailblazers. Also, guys, go and ride the battleship and the canyon gap from 2023. Dont think many will be doing that, if any.
No disrespect, I like the rock climbing analogy. As for the dangers of mountain biking, I would be really interested in the comparison to road biking, which I feel is way more dangerous (for a fraction of the fun😀)
Broke the back of my heel off back hopping of a car in 2018! I was 38 and it was one of the most painful injuries Ive had! I dont think we really think about the risks so much while we are having fun, I still take risks most people wouldnt! (Obviously I knew that the chances of slipping on a car roof were high, ive done it a lot over the years. But I still did it and probably would try it again!) With Brendogs line being ridden, I think its what freeride is! But I also think that destroying the lines after every year would bring it back to a true freeride event, there wouldnt be any manicured bike park spec jumps (all be it huge jumps!)!
I'm 44, been riding all my life, yes its risky, I've had a few surgerys. But I still do it. Came up short on a creek jump yesterday, hurts like hell. It's becoming too dangerous the older I get, but dam it I can't stop
This sounds like the 4 minute mile. Once you see someone do something and know it’s possible it becomes easier to do. No disrespect to the man who proved to the world it was possible and no harm done by those who follow.
@Martin, saying it is disrespectful reeks of gatekeeping, something that the bike industry has plenty of and could seriously do without. This sort of thing happens in other sports all the time, there are plenty of rock climbing routes that get set by incredible climbers over days only to be sport climbed by other climbers in a matter of minutes or hours. Imagine rolling up to your local trail park with something to add to an area to increase a jump or make a gap and then telling all the other crew there that they can't have a go on it because it is now your line. Setting the bar allows for other people to then push it further. As you rightly state the genius of building the trail is a hugely important part of it. Others hitting those lines outside of competition allows for new and upcoming riders to see where they may be able to take their riding and continue to push the limits of the sport.
Right. 4 guys show up to a spot and absolutely send it. Imagine being a host and not immediately understanding that. The essence of riding over rules "respect" (gatekeeping) boundaries. Do I think about the risk when riding. Absolutely *ooking not. That kills confidence. Lack of confidence will cause a lack of commitment and controlled decision-making. However, commitment and consequence, unfortunately, grow together. The bigger the commitment to send, the bigger the consequence. Such is life.
Well as a C6/7 incomplete quadriplegic due to a mtb crash ... (shoutout fellow SCI Clubies) I do try to ride within my limits or at the thin edge sometimes as I like to see some progress in my etrike.
This is far from the first time we see people riding rampage lines. In fact many of the locals that have made it into Rampage train on previous rampage lines. Also Im not sure about that venue being public land, btw. Im pretty sure all venues except for original venue is on private land simply because its easier for RedBull from a permitting perspective.
These aren’t beginner riders, yes they’re taking a massive risk with no support but I respect them pushing themselves. I’m 43 I only started riding 4 years ago and could just about bunny hop a curb and now I’m hitting blacks and pro lines, yes it’s dangerous, I’ve broken a few bones since starting but still keep pushing, the buzz of being in my bike with mates sending it across huge gaps is the best feeling I’ve ever had.
#captioncontest. That moment when Martyn realised with Blake and Neil out injured he was going to have to get Steve Jones to do a how to ride jumps video.
I ride within my limits knowing i still have to go to work. Obviously it's good to progress but that doesn't mean i have to set overly unrealistic goals. It will always be for fun, fitness and my mental well being unless someone wants to pay me 😂. Any bike time is good bike time.
@Martyn - no way was this disrespectful! The amount of airplay this got after the event from the rider, his camp, yourselves, and the public is insane! Was it impressive live, yes, was it the best line / run, not a chance.
Not disrespectful at all. I think it’s rather respectful to walk in his footsteps and try his line, or the remains of it. It’s still shows the difficulty level, obviously these guys weren’t able to finish it. I also still think that Brendog got robbed, too.
If people feel they are taking a risk, and they are doing so knowingly of the possible consequences, I don't see how anyone else has anything to do with that conscious decision. I mean, in the end we're all just big children having fun on bikes that's the whole thing. And as a kid, we all felt invincible, nothing bad would happen to us that stuff only happens to other people.. And we try to hold on to that feeling as long as possible. Riding mountainbikes in that sense shouldn't be seen any different then people who fly ultralights, who ride sportsbikes or who go climb the Matterhorn or go exploring underwater caves. No one has the right to tell another person what to do. Some people will push things as hard as they can as long as they can, and some do not. Some come to a point where other things in life become more important, others do not. And none of us have a right to say what they do is 'too' dangerous. Can you imagine being a kid again at the skate/bike park, trying to do your first trick, and some Karen came running along screaming at you to stop being so 'careless'?
![[LIVE] : ONE ลุมพินี 88 | คู่เอก "ป้อมเพชร vs อัสลามจอน"](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1ZqTVVbMgbo/mqdefault.jpg)
What do you think about Sick Sebi and Niklas Schmidt riding Brendan Fairclough's line? 🤔
[Help Martyn] he's writing a script on 'the dangers of Mountain Biking': Do you feel like you are taking risks when you are riding? Are you riding within your limit? If you do take risks, what is the reason why you do it?
1). Do I feel like I am taking serious risks when I am riding? Yes, daily: In traffic, on my commute - and that's just normal legal road cycling. As for mountain biking, I'm not really capable enough of taking huge risks like this when off-road, my kids though are increasingly pushing it.
2) Duplicating Brendogs run? I think It's a bit like copying a Banksy with a cheap copied stencil. Can you do it?, yes you can. If you can do it safely, it's yours to enjoy, no harm in that. Should you expect praise for it, and publicise it? Maybe not. It wasn't your idea and a lot of work went into creating and building the vision.
3) Could the publicity of copycats to Brendog's run lead to inexperienced attempts and a serious accident? Hopefully not, but if that happens the media will likely refer to it as " Rampage's Brendogs line"; not a worn out unofficial line with no safety precautions that numerous people have been riding since.
I am 71 and every ride I do is a risk. Every ride I test my limits. My limit has changed since I was 30 At 71 if I booger something up my recovery time is much longer that it was even 10 years ago. I do not want to lose a lot of riding time trying something that is simply an attempt to prove something. If people want to test their limits to the breaking point, more power to them. Just do not expect me to be responsible for their hospital bills.
Brendan’s line looks fun. I may drive down there and run it myself.
What’s life without risks? We take less calculated risks every time we drive somewhere.
After 40 years of mountain climbing / biking / kayaking / backcountry hunting and fishing I know how to control the variables. My mind is quiet, I flow with the moment. I have no responsibility to care for anyone but myself.
If I had young children the equation would be different.
As I am a Taoist monk with a drive to live each moment to its fullest, I dance with the elementals.
Much love everyone, take care ☯️🙏
Isn't the whole point of freeride conquering lines never ridden before? Brendan did it first and the milestone is set in stone.
Same goes for Brendon always upping the tricks quality and driving the difficulty scores. What was 10 out of 10 last year can't be worth more than 9 now.
So far all people that ever lived, except those which are currently alive, died. What danger are we talking about?
On less nihilistic note, if you go all gaming and no excercise for some years, you'll end up with health problems as well. How dangerous mountain biking is depends only on how you do it and what is too dangerous is to cetrain level subjective. I've injured myself during all sorts of activities and MTB in my case doesn't appear to be more dangerous than other things (he typed with injured wrist he got practising bunnyhopping without even crashing).
I don't take risks intentionaly much. When something goes wrong it's because my poor judgement usualy. Reason for taking risk is for me that the result will feel good if it goes ok and I'm confident it will go ok.
No, it's not disrespectful. These are adults riding their bikes on public land; that's all it is. The idea that somebody can build jumps/lines on public land and nobody else should ride them is BS. Build the lines on private land and then nobody will ride them.
@silviodeangelis1342 The deconstruction of the lines will significantly add to the destruction of such a fragile ecosystem already damaged by the event. Leaving them to be modded for next year is a better option environmentally. Many structures will also add shelter to several species as new homes. As for others having a go .... Let them ride it if they have the skills and equipment for it because having a bit of fun is perfectly legal on this area.
* More people get injured or killed just crossing the road annually than on mountain bikes on these sorts of obstacles so should we ban that sort of "risky behaviour" too???🤣
I think that its not disrespectful, it can't be, and as much as i like marten and the rest, who are they to judge. People get inspired all the time by tricks and stuff. You see something and want to try it and in a way pay homage to the person who thought of it.
If we think about it the first mountain biker isn't being disrespected because people keep copying them. It takes something special to think of a line like that and do it which should be praised although modifying public land shouldn't be allowed and cause the person to be arrested and go to court for a hefty fine. To be fair events like these shouldn't be on or anywhere near public land at all as that land is for everyone's use and not just for a few. Many won't agree with me but I'm not asking their opinion.
It's like rock climbing. Someone works on a line and makes the first ascent, and others follow. There is no disrespect; it validates the effort and accomplishment.
analogy!
Absolutely. Also the idea that the person following is somehow degrading the first person and downplaying the difficulty is obviously rubbish too .. we all know that the first attempt to free something is just so different to every other attempt that follows. It's just not the same. Instead they can offer some objective opinions on the difficulty.
No disrespect to Brendog. For me this is The essence of free riding. One person is literally a trailblazer, showing what’s possible and making it possible for others to push their personal limits.
It does seem that previous Rampage lines and spots, plus spots from video parts over the years simply add to the history and culture. Many of the Utah local shredders seem to be very respectful of Freeride culture and crediting the riders and or builders that built and paved the way. Though unfortunately there have been a few instances or misunderstanding in recent years. What do you think about Martyn's comment about it being possibly too close to the event?
He copied the main line. He didn't invent anything
@@gmbn Martyn has a point, but only in a "social media age"-kind of way. If I ride up Mont Ventoux a day after the tour, I am not taking away anything from anyone.
@@tjpighin it's not about the invention of anything new. Not a single trick on that day was a first ever. It's about riding down a gnarly piece of hill in an unique fashion.
@@e27ap that is a completly false statement. All of the top riders did nbd's. T mac's new canyon gap, tvs biggest ff off a step down ever, Brandon's switch whip double drop, godziuk bigger flip step-down. Then to add to all of those, there is personal nbds. Sorge has never packed that many big hit tricks in a row in a run and has never done them off of that large of features before.
Contrary to the bf mafia's new idea about what rampage is, it's actually about progression. Progression of the sport and what is possible on a mountain bike and also progression from each individual rider on a big mountain platform. To my knowledge, bf was the only one that didn't progress but expected to get progressive marks. He did a line that he mostly copied from another rider 6 years previous except he downgraded the some of the features. He repeated his banger from 5 years ago. And he definitely had a more challenging and less groomed "chute" or steep decent than in previous years. Then to top it alllll off, he was one of the most tentative riders going down the mountain with people on foot able to keep pace with him. None of those features are conducive to rampage. Judges nailed the scores. His run was a nice film festival style run, but it got scored accordingly. Maybe he could have gotten a couple more points, but not enough to move him up at all.
Riders paying homage to Brendan's line is respectful like a musician singing a cover song of their favorite artist.
Love this comparison
way of putting it
i think it respects Brendog. Them lads wanted t ride his lines rather than the other lines. Respect!
Martyn has gotten old on us. It was bound to happen. No one owns a line.
😂😂😂
What do you mean 'gotten'
@@gmbn fair burn!
I agree the fact the brendogs line has bought people in from abroad is testament to how well they did building the line, he was still robbed by the way
I would never ride any of those courses but, for the riders that want to. Let them. There’s no need to gate keep anyone.
Good point!
How they groomed the line for average riders to be able to ride the line on trail bikes. Praise judges for speaking the truth and not bowing down to the trolls in the bf mafia. Such a great build for an average rider
When I ride, I’m definitely riding within my limits, probably too much! But always have it the back of my head if I get injured bad enough I can’t work, I don’t get paid…
Get insurance.
At 57, risk and progression of skills is merely keeping the palette of skills I've amassed over 40 years of mountain biking and motorbiking. Kinetic sports are always 'too dangerous', as physics does not care about your skills, preparation, or experise - it's not 'if' but a matter of 'when', you will run out of luck, talent or more typically, a volatile mix of both. Me? I've stopped doing any stunt where I'd have to leap over the bar and onto the ground more than 3' off the ground - I just don't want that abuse on my creaky skeleton anymore! It's kinda nice to be on the downward arc of my biking 'career' as I don't have to constantly prove to myself that I can still push into the unknown....
Me being 53 fully agree to your points!
There’s a big difference with putting a line together and being the first to ride it and riding it after knowing it all works.
Ya like last year when he attached his name onto thw battleship. Then he double tire cased it even when he saw it done by someone else first. Just an average rider doing average things
Easy to forget that sitting on the couch or hunched over a desk can also kill you - crossing the road, eating hard to chew food etc. My wife's friend shattered her ankle in the gym from improperly assemble equipment. There is always risk. No body is forcing you to ride like you're doing Rampage, but having stuff like that exist makes it more interesting, bikes are better quality for it. It's part of human nature to go bigger/stronger/longer etc. Also, are we all missing how good the guy is to even ride Brendan's line? How good is that??!
If I were brendog and that were my line, I would be proud. The day rampage becomes riding trails that no-one else in the world can do is the day it becomes too risky.
Everyone else in thw world can ride it. Did you not listen to this story? Average Joe's on trail bikes. You don't see them doing thw other lines do you. Delulu bf mafia
When I was riding at the ages of 10 - 25 there were NO limits.
Now that I am 43 I purposely put limits on myself because I have a career and family that relies on me to take care of them...
Mountain Biking doesn't pay the bills...
Risk are naturally inherent with riding and when you're 40 and hurting yourself it takes THAT MUCH LONGER to heal and recover..
I cannot push myself like I used to - it sucks but I understand the risks associated with mountain biking and what it means to me and my family.
At mid 50's ive had enough serious injuries over the years to no longer push my limits. Its a hobby just for for fun these days.
My favorite riding now is my gravel bike with 2.0 racekings on old xc trails. Proper fun, proper quick, low consequence.
I think riding within your skills is important whether riding trails or descending gravel at 50mph, or climbing 10k in a day without the fitness to do it.
I'm a 67 year old rider. I tell people on the trails - If this sport were around in the mid-seventies, I'd be a hall of famer or dead by now! I know my limitations, yet I push them still. I crash, but I'm not usually in any real danger with the speeds I travel. I have Hunter S. Thompson's quote firmly embedded in my mind....Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.
No, I don't think it being disrespectful for them to ride. Brendon line. Mountain biking is only as dangerous as you make it. I take risks every ride, but they are calculated risk.Every time you go out your door, it risk but that doesn't stop us. Risk assessment is also a skill that we all have to learn, whether it is in extreme sports or daily life.
Good points Kdog!
Now do Van Steenbergen's line and do the same front flip
That front flip did not get the respect it deserved imho.
since they didnt backflip the canyon, they are for sure not front fliping 🤣
That’s the whole point of what they did
I don’t think it’s disrespectful, it’s a mark of respect that people want to ride Brendog’s line. Two things worth thinking about are: 1. The design and build come from the imagination of the team that built it, so it’s easy to ride it after the fact and disrespect the work that went into it. 2. Brendog flipped that canyon gap… just saying
For sure, hopefully this line (and others) will hopefully remain and be a part of freeride history forever. We can understand that some riders/builders destroy the lips if they believe that someone might get seriously injured though!
#CAPTIONCONTEST Martyn glues his hand to his face for a permanent face-palm after bodged impression of beloved British broadcasting icon, David Attenborough.
I’m an amateur rider. Wouldn’t even stand on top of some of that stuff on Brendan’s line. Them guys are no amateur. Maybe they don’t get paid to ride. But they are not amateurs
There is a LOT of great unseen tallent in mountain biking, especially in Utah! Having a rich history of freeride features from events such as Rampage and video parts must help with that
If you don't want someone to ride your line, build it on private property or destroy it after. Otherwise it's open game. If you don't like it, you don't respect freedom.
Well said
Wtf?!! Disrespect? Makes absolutely no sense to say it was disrespectful. Good for him for trying and doing. If anything we should celebrate he did it for the pure joy and love of riding, not for money, not for fame, not as a “professional”, just pure love.
I don't take big risks and I still manage to deck it every now and then. Worst injury I got was breaking my humerus on a gravel ride.
Still a nasty one! How long did that take to heal?
@@gmbn Break happened last September, had surgery with plates etc, I was back on the bike 12 weeks later. Then had a round of problems with my ulna nerve and had to get the hardware removed again plus nerve transposed in March, another 8 weeks or so before I could ride again after that.
Just like tech trickles down from the $12,000 super bikes, so do new lines from the pros to the amateurs. This is how the sport move forward.
This is true! What do you think about Martyn's comment on releasing the footage so close to the event?
@ guy has game. If you can ride that line go ahead and show it. Both sides, if there are sides, should be proud of their individual accomplishments.
A round of applause - well done gentlemen!
No disrespect, Team Lad Science has the ability and skill to build a proper gnarly Rampage big mountain line and then show that it can be ridden.
A great point! Victory in the build
Everyone takes risks all the time. Some people's risk is just not exercising. I just fractured my ankle riding a trail I've ridden more than a hundred times. Looking forward to get riding again.
How long has it been since you were able to ride? Are you going to go straight back to that trail?
@@gmbn I've been out 2 weeks already, have 4 more weeks until the follow up dr appointment. Not sure how capable that leg will be right away, and winter may shut down the trails before I get back into it. Yeah I'll be back at that trail fairly soon after I'm able to ride again.
I don’t think it’s disrespectful at all. Quite the contrary, these guys have honoured Brendan. The caption was very humbly written IMO.
MTB is dangerous and I’m a very below average rider - my trails are sand/gravel and I literally come off every ride, often more than once. Luckily I am a master at landing! *Touch wood, I’ve never broken anything but have lost a lot of bark, a modicum of blood, and collected heaps of bumps, lumps, and bruises but at 60yo (having started at 55) I think I’m starting to push my luck.
I find I’m riding my roadie & my Kickr bike a lot more now, mostly for safety considerations. The Australian bush is my first love so I adore mountain biking, I just don’t do as much now.
I’m learning slab track at dyfi at the moment and would ride anything I find that I have calculated I think I can do
It pushes your physically and mentally and I love that
I think your forgetting how rampage started, people going out to the desert with no safety crew and seeing what they can do
I firmly believe in making calculated risk assessments, especially in enduro. I had to pull out of the SA Champs due to overtraining the day before and getting hit with heatstroke. Stepping back, even when it’s tough, can make all the difference. MTB can be dangerous, but we have to keep a clear head, stay safe, and make smart judgment calls. 👍😎
It's cool that they went and rode his line. It inspired them. I try to push my riding to get better. Hold up, that Transition Sentinel looks almost identical to the 2023 Vitus Escarpe. I did a double take when it came up.
Both very good looking bikes 😍
It seems to go back to the question “is freeride seeing your own line down the mountain, building it, and riding it or is it just to ride the gnarliest thing you can?” If it’s up to Rampage, re-riding your own past lines or other people’s lines is fine and riding lines you’re comfortable enough to do crazy tricks on is fine.
The price of being an innovator is that someone will always come along and do what you did. At best, it’s an homage. No one can say that those guys riding Fairclough’s line puts them anywhere near Fairclough.
I'm 50 and my sons just getting me into 'proper' mountain biking, I.e. bike parks, jumps, drops etc. Of course it's a risk every time I do it but it's fun doing it with him, and I am getting better so should be better equipped to manage the risks... maybe
i can't ride anymore due to unrelated health issues, but when i did it was all about pushing my limits and finding the edge. Broke 12 bones and snapped 3 ligaments but not once did i want to pack it in, the danger and risk of the sport was the main thing i liked about it. I have a few things in common with Martyn so feel free to reach out if you would like some more detailed input.
Great line, Bren should be honoured that 2 pinners chose to ride his line, yeah they dabbed on bits and didn't flip the canyon but mad respect. They could easy straight air the drops to massive landings, it's far more challenging for them to ride the only tech line on the hill.
Congratulations Rich ❤❤❤
Thank you Leo.
#captioncontest Getting a peak at Blake's food receipts from his trip to America
Be real, that’s not a $500 bike. Just because he had a connection and paid that, doesn’t mean that the value and capability of the bike. Honesty is the best policy.
Potentially, but the frame is a few years old for sure, and you never know what kind of a life it had/what kind of condition it was in
yes exactly! A 500 dollar bike is the most expensive at walmart maybe? but this had a out of box value of mutch more.💲💲
@@gmbn it was clearly in good condition enough to ride rampage lines. The fork alone could be sold for that price, regardless of condition (they clearly worked just fine). I could buy a 2020 Toyota from my brother for $1 and claim I did the rubicon in a $1 truck. But that’s a bold face lie, it’s not a $1 truck. The dude saying he did Brendogs line on a $500 bike(which it definitely is not if you are being real) is hugely disrespectful to Brendan.
#captioncontest Martyn's reaction the moment they announced Brendog's score at RAMPAGE
They say that Imitation is the ultimate form of flattery. So with this in mind, i don't think it's disrespectful at all. One thing to keep in mind is that many people seek progression. Many of the locals over in Virgin Utah ride the old rampage lines as a way to test themselves and progress.
I progress really slowly so yes. Riding within limits as much I can. Risk? Sure I feel it each time but we all assess what is within our comfort
Good to see rich is backing am the boy who was parked next to you in the car park forest of Dean
That's not disrespectful, what the jury did is disrespectful to me. For me, the run was 100% freeride and one of the best.
Not disrespectful, not at all. Just send it man, we're happy to watch anyone who dare to ride them lines.
So Martin, should the resorts destroy the world cup DH tracks after the race? I've ridden about half of the Snowshoe dh track. Which I can register to ride in our local South East DH series 🤷♂️
Fair point
How is riding someone's Rampage line disrespectful? I would be gleeful if I made a line like that and it was the choice of others to ride it after me! Inspiring others to do great rides is great.
incremental is my favorite word, helps with risk management. i love to push my limits, it's called growth! when i am tired, i am likely to make mistakes - a good time to not try something new for me : )
The only thing im little bit worried is what if people started building their own lines because it was "Public land" or secretly building features for other rampage riders for them to use next year in that venue. Yes I know it will deteriorate as the weather goes but it would be easier to refine it later
Knowing your limits and when to push them is for people who don't ride mountain bikes. SEND IT. My other favorite is speed is your friend. LoL Gravity, however, is a demon who hates me. Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the ride
Freedom is so precious
We should be free to ride however whatever we like as long as it doesn’t disturb or harm wildlife or wildlife’s habitat.
But it is important to build up gradually to stuff if we want to try it and not try things we are not ready for.
It's no fun if I's not dangerous! At 61 I'm pushing myself harder than ever, while I still can.
Higher chance of being in a car crash getting to and from the trials than riding the trials.
I don’t ride like I use to in my teenage years and that is due to family commitments and recovery.
I used to race BMX in the 80’s naturally progressed to MTB in gave up riding parks etc a few years back mainly because of the risk,i had one too many near crashes and basically lost my bottle,still ride XC on the moors but definitely had a shift in mindset and i am more aware of the dangers.
No support, no logistics, just four guys sending crazy lines. Isn’t that the essence of freeride?
yup I 💕💕 Martyn - but he is way off line in this case
when you get out of bed you take a risk
ride whithin your own limits and understand that your actions have consequenses
I agree with Martyn on the who won the Hacks. I'm not going to build a rack but I can sure put frozen grapes in my water bottle.
I do however disagree with him on pushing yourself. If you aren't getting injured, you're not trying hard enough. 😉
re-naturalizing the lines AFTER rampage is a great idea. Not only does it completely even the playing field for everyone, but it also brings some of that freestyle spirit back and encourages participants to try something different. That way they aren't just riding the same lines year after year (even if one or two features are added). The only downside I could see is that doing it in the same venue year after year could really take a toll on the mountain.
The guy that rode brendon's line makes a really good point. MTB has come a long way since rampage started, so is that level of competitiveness with lines really a piece we should hang onto? Surely it wouldn't hurt to at least open old or unused parts of your line to others from previous years.
8:31 Fox's Lunar lineup.....Actually bought the 'Lunar' Speedframe Pro a few weeks ago (bought a new Transition Relay alloy and bike shop said pick a helmet for free). I had no idea how iridescent the paint on the sides is, and it's really quite spectacular in the sunlight and at night - I'm a bit flabberghasted by how they did this. Glad you all posted this info, because I tried looking it up weeks ago and found nothing online - guess the secret is out. Gonna check out the other Lunar gear, as winter riding season is one of my favorite seasons.
Give that guy a rampage contract.
I would love to take more risks when riding to maximise progression, but I need to be able to go to work. I am self employed, and I cannot afford to take time off to nurse broken body parts.
and you know what that is totally fine. mtb is about calculating risk, and choosing if something is worth it for you. i have walked away from things, because the risk calculation was just terrible.
Very true! As long as the calculated risks you can take deliver some adrenaline and sense of fun you're still doing it right
@@gmbn fact.
You have it absolutely right Martyn, if something has been specifically built for a professional riders at an event when they have expert medical professional assistance, but that that said free riding is dangerous, and many of those people that are attracted to it do so because of the danger and the buzz they get, they say is like an addict getting their fix. So they generally go into it knowing how dangerous it can be. Or other frozen fruit if you not a fan of grapes, or just a fan of the Build of the slide out rack. try rich ICF International Canicross Federation, and that sort of racing started as summer Sled dog training.
"you've just chosen a bottle of grapes over someone who's genuinely built something"😆😆😆
Yesss! My favorite show is on! I'm commenting before I even watch
Thanks for being here
Sad to see Leo go! Good luck in your next chapter,Leo!
He'll be missed but we're very happy for him pursuing his woodwork passion
As an average rider who is currently recovering from a pretty nasty forearm and wrist fracture I’ll say it’s most definitely a risk, especially when you’re pushing your abilities, no matter your level. But the inherent risk is part of what makes this sport so addictive.
True! Hope the fractures heal fast
@ Thanks! - Im in the physical therapy phase now, so almost ready to hit the the trail again.
Sgt pepper came out Friday, Hendrix played it live that weekend. He still is no Beatle.
That’s a brilliant point. It was seen then as the biggest compliment too.
But he was... Hendrix👑
I think it’s important for some humans to have places to push themselves outside of inherit risk. Having the knowledge crew and capability to make calculated decisions and risk is the variable and foresight needed. Success is a relative term skill is often a perception of a lot of math and hard work. Few are Steezy in its true form.
I think I'm not the only one when I'll say I enjoy riding on edge the most. Chill rides are great but remember that ride when you were balancing on the edge of crashing half the time? The ride that pumped so much adrenaline into you that your hand were trembling afterwards? The nervous laugh when you just barely saved yourself from going into a tree full speed? Yeah, that ride.
Red Bull, sent an invite to these guys right away!. I remember that fanboy's who said Semenuk could not ride this line without a DH. lol
Not disrespectful. All MTB event headlines, good and bad, give it the notoriety it deserves. I ride on the edge of my abilty. Usually within my limits and sometimes pushing progression. ❤
Mountain Biking is meant as an extreme sport. The draw and appeal of any extreme sport is the calculated risk you take in pursuit of an adrenaline rush. So IS it too dangerous, not in and of itself. CAN it be too dangerous, absolutely, that is why we do it. The key is too mitigate risks as much as possible, know your own limits, and don't go beyond them. That said, progress is made by pushing limits and taking risk. So, we get better and advance the sport by the risks we take. From my experience, take it back to a point Martyn made. The best time and way to push your limits, is to take group rides with a large group people that are next level. My first couple years of riding dirt bikes, I would go out with a group of 6-10 riders of varying experience, some of us with advanced medical training and equipment. The most experienced riders would choose trails and obstacles that most of us thought couldn't be ridden on a motorcycle, and then walk us through exactly how to do it safely and in a controlled manner. I learned a TON more than if I had attempted those things on my own.
#Captioncontest Martyn can't watch as mountain biking continues to become more dangerous
I ride within my limits a lot when I ride solo but when with someone I'm a bit more rowdy cause they've got a car and can help me out
#CAPTIONCONTEST Martyn counts to 20 as the 2024 GMBN Hide and Seek Championships kick off 🫣
Guys to be honest, Sick Sebi and Niklas Schmidt lets see them build and ride a line for the first time. Thats the issue. When somebody builds and rides a line for the first time it shows whats possible, so others will follow, BUT they were not the trailblazers. Also, guys, go and ride the battleship and the canyon gap from 2023. Dont think many will be doing that, if any.
No disrespect, I like the rock climbing analogy.
As for the dangers of mountain biking, I would be really interested in the comparison to road biking, which I feel is way more dangerous (for a fraction of the fun😀)
Broke the back of my heel off back hopping of a car in 2018! I was 38 and it was one of the most painful injuries Ive had! I dont think we really think about the risks so much while we are having fun, I still take risks most people wouldnt! (Obviously I knew that the chances of slipping on a car roof were high, ive done it a lot over the years. But I still did it and probably would try it again!)
With Brendogs line being ridden, I think its what freeride is! But I also think that destroying the lines after every year would bring it back to a true freeride event, there wouldnt be any manicured bike park spec jumps (all be it huge jumps!)!
That deep purple Transition Sentinel is a fine looking steed..........
Tom agrees!
I'm 44, been riding all my life, yes its risky, I've had a few surgerys. But I still do it. Came up short on a creek jump yesterday, hurts like hell. It's becoming too dangerous the older I get, but dam it I can't stop
This sounds like the 4 minute mile. Once you see someone do something and know it’s possible it becomes easier to do. No disrespect to the man who proved to the world it was possible and no harm done by those who follow.
Great point!
I've never run a 4 minute mile. I probably could, but I choose not to because it would be disrespectful.
@ same gurl same
@Martin, saying it is disrespectful reeks of gatekeeping, something that the bike industry has plenty of and could seriously do without. This sort of thing happens in other sports all the time, there are plenty of rock climbing routes that get set by incredible climbers over days only to be sport climbed by other climbers in a matter of minutes or hours.
Imagine rolling up to your local trail park with something to add to an area to increase a jump or make a gap and then telling all the other crew there that they can't have a go on it because it is now your line. Setting the bar allows for other people to then push it further. As you rightly state the genius of building the trail is a hugely important part of it. Others hitting those lines outside of competition allows for new and upcoming riders to see where they may be able to take their riding and continue to push the limits of the sport.
its not a random guy, A random guy would be my granny och grandpa shredding down this shute! hell yeah!!!🤠
#CaptionContest " Martyn gets the bill for the stunt mugs he gave away recently"
Right. 4 guys show up to a spot and absolutely send it. Imagine being a host and not immediately understanding that. The essence of riding over rules "respect" (gatekeeping) boundaries.
Do I think about the risk when riding. Absolutely *ooking not. That kills confidence. Lack of confidence will cause a lack of commitment and controlled decision-making. However, commitment and consequence, unfortunately, grow together. The bigger the commitment to send, the bigger the consequence. Such is life.
Well as a C6/7 incomplete quadriplegic due to a mtb crash ... (shoutout fellow SCI Clubies) I do try to ride within my limits or at the thin edge sometimes as I like to see some progress in my etrike.
This is far from the first time we see people riding rampage lines. In fact many of the locals that have made it into Rampage train on previous rampage lines.
Also Im not sure about that venue being public land, btw. Im pretty sure all venues except for original venue is on private land simply because its easier for RedBull from a permitting perspective.
These aren’t beginner riders, yes they’re taking a massive risk with no support but I respect them pushing themselves. I’m 43 I only started riding 4 years ago and could just about bunny hop a curb and now I’m hitting blacks and pro lines, yes it’s dangerous, I’ve broken a few bones since starting but still keep pushing, the buzz of being in my bike with mates sending it across huge gaps is the best feeling I’ve ever had.
maybe RB should give these guys a wildcard for Rampage25
#captioncontest. That moment when Martyn realised with Blake and Neil out injured he was going to have to get Steve Jones to do a how to ride jumps video.
Hey Martin! In short yeah man it's dangerous...many injuries over the yrs but not being able to ride would surpass all hurt rolled into one.
#captioncontest After Redbull tweeted "If you think it's so bloody easy you guest judge Rampage next year then" Martyn gets practicing!
Riiiichhh Payyyynneee... What a name for a Mountainbiker 🤣 Hilarious! This afternoons pedal strike against the side of me knee... Riiichh Payyyynnee 😝
I ride within my limits knowing i still have to go to work. Obviously it's good to progress but that doesn't mean i have to set overly unrealistic goals. It will always be for fun, fitness and my mental well being unless someone wants to pay me 😂. Any bike time is good bike time.
@Martyn - no way was this disrespectful! The amount of airplay this got after the event from the rider, his camp, yourselves, and the public is insane!
Was it impressive live, yes, was it the best line / run, not a chance.
Not disrespectful at all. I think it’s rather respectful to walk in his footsteps and try his line, or the remains of it. It’s still shows the difficulty level, obviously these guys weren’t able to finish it. I also still think that Brendog got robbed, too.
#captioncontest: Martyns reaction after reading the new plans involving the random tandem
If people feel they are taking a risk, and they are doing so knowingly of the possible consequences, I don't see how anyone else has anything to do with that conscious decision.
I mean, in the end we're all just big children having fun on bikes that's the whole thing. And as a kid, we all felt invincible, nothing bad would happen to us that stuff only happens to other people.. And we try to hold on to that feeling as long as possible. Riding mountainbikes in that sense shouldn't be seen any different then people who fly ultralights, who ride sportsbikes or who go climb the Matterhorn or go exploring underwater caves.
No one has the right to tell another person what to do.
Some people will push things as hard as they can as long as they can, and some do not. Some come to a point where other things in life become more important, others do not. And none of us have a right to say what they do is 'too' dangerous.
Can you imagine being a kid again at the skate/bike park, trying to do your first trick, and some Karen came running along screaming at you to stop being so 'careless'?
Congratulations 🎉