I agree that Peter is very passive in Ultimate Spider-Man, but the way I see it is that this is a Peter Parker who actually understands responsibility. He’s been a responsible adult his whole life, making responsible choices, and this is where it’s gotten him. 616 and 1610 Peter Parker have always been children who misinterpreted what responsibility is and what Uncle Ben meant by it when he said his famous line. They decided that responsibility meant being Spider-Man, no matter the cost, even though Uncle Ben clearly would never have wanted that. The current Ultimate Slider-Man will have to break the chains of responsibility to finally be the Spider-Man we all know and love.
Ram V wrote this to mirror the structure of an opera. I absolutely see where you are coming from but I absolutely adore the current Detective Comics run.
To help with Tiffany's confusion on xmen resurrection: there is a line leading up to sins of sinister when the xmen are hunting down sinister to put him in the pit that they comment he was no longer needed for the resurrection. Hope that helps
Isssue 4 of USM was probably my favourite since it’s debut. We learn more about all the characters and the story progresses. Gwen as this business woman who can’t really turn off professional-personal could be a character element we see in Harry as he descends into villainy. Mary Jane seems like the MJ we got years ago in the JRSR era but if she got to truly grow up and he more adult. It’s great. I think when she finds out Peter is Spider-Man she’ll either A be heartbroken and start a rift that will be resolved or B she’ll probably already know even though he never told her. I do think that reveal will reflect and be the opposite of whatever happens with Gwen and Harry. I know this series is about Peter, MJ, Ben, Richard, May, JJJ and that family but I do think the sub section of that will be the cast we got in issue 4. Really loving this journey we are going on with USM
Wak wak wak! I've been really enjoying both penguin and flash, both books are great. If not for this show I wouldn't know that they aren't selling great or winning over fans, I don't really follow industry news. Hope they pick up for folks, but I love em
What a chump I am for not asking Charles Soule about the hot claws. Instead we talked about depression and his novels and how much "The Oracle Year" meant to me! What a fool I am.
Was at my local comic con just a few weeks ago (SC Comic Con) and there was a booth with $5 Trades and a few with dollar bins, I guess it might just not be at the bigger shows anymore because they feel like they can get away with it?
Just finding this video and when I got to the part about C2E2 I was saddened yet not surprised. C2E2 was the first con I ever went to and they used to be so much more. The vendors, the artists, the entertainers, the aesthetic. There came a point where you visibly saw that dying and that sucked. Vendors slowly started disappearing, entertainers became C listers that haven't done anything in years, the spectacle that use to be there was gone. I was able to introduce a few friends to C2E2 before it started to become lack luster but right now I wish I could've brought you back to when it was better.
X-men going so hard right now! If you told back when fox has Xmen we’d be living in a great Xmen age in the next era I would’ve been hard pressed to believe it but here we are! Makes me wonder if the same kinda “cycle” will happen with spider-man. I know a lot of fans are hating the runs and feel like he’s being written super poorly but maybe that means next year or 2026 will be the age for best spider-man stories! 🤷🏿
@@rezza_lynsaii unfortunately it could never reach the heights of Krakoa again, but Krakoa was never meant to be permanent. The X-Men shouldn’t be isolationists
holy cow sal, read road to no man's land part 1 and I thought ya that's alright but let me check out the real deal and skipped road...part 2 and started No Man's Land and damn the first issue is BALLER! haha. I know you don't care for the thanks things, I don't either because it puts a spotlight on one comment over others so I try to do them the day after. Now to get on the exercise bike while listening to the show!
Benedict or Liam OBrien from newer cartoons are my Dr. Strange voice. Some type of RDJ for Iron Man, 90s and Bruce Timm era cartoon for Spider-Man X-men Batman Superman JL characters. Nathan Fillon for Hal Jordan, CW DC shows for most of those main characters.
the penny is going to drop i feel, someone is going to die or something big is going to impact peter. He hasn't really become spiderman yet, hes not got that indomitable drive.
I don’t really like this new line of ultimate comics for a multitude of reasons. The idea that Peter become Spider-Man “ because it’s the right thing to do,” goes completely against his chracter. Having him naturally be this paragon of virtue from the beginning makes him unnrelatable. Also, in an effort to fix Peter’s shit try writing in 616 they over corrected. Spider-Man’s life should not be comically awful but it should also not be comically good😭 Peter Parker is supposed to represent the ups and downs of life. Not just one or the other. I think the book could have benefited for giving Peter some consequences for his actions. They don’t have to be monumental either, maybe Peter forgets to pick up his daughter from school and MJ gets mad, maybe he forgets to go to Richard’s band practice because he is two busy being Spider-Man. This would cause Richard to drift away fril his father. What if MJ suspected Peter was having an affair due to the fact that he has been out of the house so much? Spider-Man is supposed to be a soap opera and this new comics line has not been doing the at. Hopefully they change that as the series progresses.
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I agree that Peter is very passive in Ultimate Spider-Man, but the way I see it is that this is a Peter Parker who actually understands responsibility. He’s been a responsible adult his whole life, making responsible choices, and this is where it’s gotten him.
616 and 1610 Peter Parker have always been children who misinterpreted what responsibility is and what Uncle Ben meant by it when he said his famous line. They decided that responsibility meant being Spider-Man, no matter the cost, even though Uncle Ben clearly would never have wanted that.
The current Ultimate Slider-Man will have to break the chains of responsibility to finally be the Spider-Man we all know and love.
Ram V wrote this to mirror the structure of an opera. I absolutely see where you are coming from but I absolutely adore the current Detective Comics run.
Reading it trade-to-trade is a fine time, but I could see it being a drag month-by-month after reading the first volume.
@@FlossyBottomseven if I was reading floppy’s id probably let a few build up
To help with Tiffany's confusion on xmen resurrection: there is a line leading up to sins of sinister when the xmen are hunting down sinister to put him in the pit that they comment he was no longer needed for the resurrection.
Hope that helps
I get a kick out of how exasperated Sal sounds that Penguin is still fantastic.
Isssue 4 of USM was probably my favourite since it’s debut. We learn more about all the characters and the story progresses.
Gwen as this business woman who can’t really turn off professional-personal could be a character element we see in Harry as he descends into villainy.
Mary Jane seems like the MJ we got years ago in the JRSR era but if she got to truly grow up and he more adult. It’s great.
I think when she finds out Peter is Spider-Man she’ll either A be heartbroken and start a rift that will be resolved or B she’ll probably already know even though he never told her. I do think that reveal will reflect and be the opposite of whatever happens with Gwen and Harry. I know this series is about Peter, MJ, Ben, Richard, May, JJJ and that family but I do think the sub section of that will be the cast we got in issue 4. Really loving this journey we are going on with USM
Wak wak wak!
I've been really enjoying both penguin and flash, both books are great. If not for this show I wouldn't know that they aren't selling great or winning over fans, I don't really follow industry news. Hope they pick up for folks, but I love em
What a chump I am for not asking Charles Soule about the hot claws. Instead we talked about depression and his novels and how much "The Oracle Year" meant to me! What a fool I am.
Love you guys you always make things fun to hear and very chilled video to listen to! Found this video on TH-cam music as a podcast so even more happy
I was very skeptical about Ultimate Spider-Man after issue 1 but after this issue (#4), I'm in.
Was at my local comic con just a few weeks ago (SC Comic Con) and there was a booth with $5 Trades and a few with dollar bins, I guess it might just not be at the bigger shows anymore because they feel like they can get away with it?
Just finding this video and when I got to the part about C2E2 I was saddened yet not surprised. C2E2 was the first con I ever went to and they used to be so much more. The vendors, the artists, the entertainers, the aesthetic. There came a point where you visibly saw that dying and that sucked. Vendors slowly started disappearing, entertainers became C listers that haven't done anything in years, the spectacle that use to be there was gone. I was able to introduce a few friends to C2E2 before it started to become lack luster but right now I wish I could've brought you back to when it was better.
X-men going so hard right now! If you told back when fox has Xmen we’d be living in a great Xmen age in the next era I would’ve been hard pressed to believe it but here we are! Makes me wonder if the same kinda “cycle” will happen with spider-man. I know a lot of fans are hating the runs and feel like he’s being written super poorly but maybe that means next year or 2026 will be the age for best spider-man stories! 🤷🏿
It won’t get better until the editorial team changes.
Unfortunately I believe X-men is going to be poor in the new era. To go from Krakoa to this…
I will say I’m enjoying the ultimate universe
I have hated the entire Krakoa era of X-Men but at least the new Uncanny team has a good lineup. Ultimate Spidey has been amazing
@@rezza_lynsaii unfortunately it could never reach the heights of Krakoa again, but Krakoa was never meant to be permanent. The X-Men shouldn’t be isolationists
the black tapes is a great podcast!
Goddammit, less than five minutes in and these two are already overwhelmingly adorable!
holy cow sal, read road to no man's land part 1 and I thought ya that's alright but let me check out the real deal and skipped road...part 2 and started No Man's Land and damn the first issue is BALLER! haha. I know you don't care for the thanks things, I don't either because it puts a spotlight on one comment over others so I try to do them the day after. Now to get on the exercise bike while listening to the show!
Black Tapes mentioned! 😮
I just did not like Ultimate Spider-Man #4. I'm fine with a book that is dialogue heavy but this feels aimless.
I love Sal humor.
I like this ultimate Spiderman run, just happy he's married, has kids and also the spiderman
Glad I watched the end. The shadow of Pariah still looms, much to Tiffany's disdain.
I think the Ultimate Alliance Dr. Strange is a pretty good fit.
Benedict or Liam OBrien from newer cartoons are my Dr. Strange voice. Some type of RDJ for Iron Man, 90s and Bruce Timm era cartoon for Spider-Man X-men Batman Superman JL characters. Nathan Fillon for Hal Jordan, CW DC shows for most of those main characters.
the penny is going to drop i feel, someone is going to die or something big is going to impact peter. He hasn't really become spiderman yet, hes not got that indomitable drive.
Coming here to get THE opinion on X-Men
Oh, they did a Spidey show? I'm in.
If you blended Gunther from WWE and Ian Mckellens delivery would work well for Magneto
Did I read Ultimate Spiderman wrong, or did Harry give Peter the Spiderman speech🤷
43:20 - I don't understand. What's the error? Is this an incorrect idiom?
I don’t really like this new line of ultimate comics for a multitude of reasons. The idea that Peter become Spider-Man “ because it’s the right thing to do,” goes completely against his chracter. Having him naturally be this paragon of virtue from the beginning makes him unnrelatable. Also, in an effort to fix Peter’s shit try writing in 616 they over corrected. Spider-Man’s life should not be comically awful but it should also not be comically good😭 Peter Parker is supposed to represent the ups and downs of life. Not just one or the other. I think the book could have benefited for giving Peter some consequences for his actions. They don’t have to be monumental either, maybe Peter forgets to pick up his daughter from school and MJ gets mad, maybe he forgets to go to Richard’s band practice because he is two busy being Spider-Man. This would cause Richard to drift away fril his father. What if MJ suspected Peter was having an affair due to the fact that he has been out of the house so much? Spider-Man is supposed to be a soap opera and this new comics line has not been doing the at. Hopefully they change that as the series progresses.
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@@comicpopreturns fair enough😭
I just read the new issue and it’s safe to say I was fully of crap💀