@@RK800-re5lf I read it as a Persona 5 reference, but the fact that the joke works as a standalone that well makes it my favourite one. Especially with how low-key it was presented.
@@TheRealLanMisa I mean, within this context Persona 5's Palaces probably wasn't the intended joke. I mean, unless you're really looking into it. Either way, Persona is awesome. You looking forward to Reload?
"...literally no-one wears gloves in the crime scene" 😂 Love this, thank you for roasting our game ❤ (and yeah, we should have thought about the gloves thing, to be honest 🤭)
Yeah, during that scene I thought "Uhm ... gloves?!". But what a unique experience this game is! That musical sequence was genious (and gave me Peacemaker vibes). I usually don't like surrealim but both Alan Wake games (as well as Control) do it right!
If you're legit someone from Remedy I can't give you enough kudos for this game. It was more than worth the 13 year wait. I loved every minute of the game, the story, and I can't wait for Final Draft mode.
Yes, but the comparison was off... BG3 has Raphael's fight in the house of hope plus a couple more performed by in-game characters as well, so is mostly a toss based on your preferences :p
Well no, he can't just write anything into his story.....it has to fit within the genre and has to follow a narrative causality (this was explained in the first game).
It's also clearly explained in the second game too. Some people just seem to miss it for some reason lol That said, it was worth the misunderstanding as it did lead to a damn good joke
I recall something to that effect, as well. There are rules, and he has to try to make his way out of a nearly impossible situation by finding loopholes in those rules, or clever ways to subvert them; a writer's dream and nightmare combined, sort of. It's not just survival; if he can pull it off, it's also proof that he can construct a compelling and plausible narrative. But also getting out of the hell dimension, yeah.
It's honestly a shame this game isn't selling as well as it should. That Old Gods of Asgard sequence alone made it worth the price. Hopefully more people check it out in the future
It got plenty of GOTY nominations and has a decent shot at winning GOTY. Good words of mouth would help. Alan Wake 1 wasn't a huge financial success either. It just became a cult classic because of words of mouth.
@static7815 Epic Games funded the whole thing, so unsurprisingly they are not going to put it in Steam. This is like asking why Valve didn't put Half Life Alyx on Epic store.
@@ArawnOfAnnwnof the 2 I like Alan Wake 2 waaaaaay more, but BG3 has a huge following so it's unlikely wake pulls it off, but if they did I don't think anyone would question it
Considering that they really haven't recovered from Quantum Break based on what people are criticizing, I'd say it's a bad thing. I'm just waiting for Max Payne 1 and 2 remake. I've lost most of my hope for the "old guard." Sam Lake is also the same person who signed off on Max Payne 3's story... look at how that franchise went when Rockstar took over.
It’s good imo - don’t need another Ubisoft or EA, so let’s get a Remedy, which does something different. Can at least commend them for that. Remedy only makes Remedy games.
@@troypowers750lol Max Payne 3 is good and generally remembered well. I prefer the first game and the weird post modern humor, but to act like 3 is a travesty is silly.
Please say: "Look at you, Mario. A pathetic creature of mushrooms and fireplants. Jumping and stomping as you run through the corridors of my eighth castle. How can you challenge a perfect immortal Bowser like me?"
@@fatidicusaeternus6498I do like how they set up the rules for the Dark place in the first game. Aside from just squashing the whole "why not just write your way out" question it actually really puts emphasis on the constraints of good creative processes
The Easter egg was there before the DLC was announced. It's the page from Wake's manuscript in the Panopticon that's shown in the video. The DLC just confirmed the rumors that came from that.
Even before the dlc was announced, you could find a hidden room in the Panopticon upper levels (Panopticon is the place where they store and emprison Altered items) which had a typewriter and going close to it would make an echo of Alan appear, talking about trying to escape. I found this before the dlc was announced and as I huge fan of Alan Wake I was ecstatic!
This trailer should have been rated "Double S" for "SERIOUS SPOILERS" Mercy, it feels like I'm starting to watch a sitcom halfway through the final season
This game plays EXACTLY like some Resident Evil games. Small amount of super powerful enemies, inventory management and upgrades, hidden treasures. I honestly did not expect that after the first one.
@@FelipeKana1it's better, but still the same style. The combat is my least favorite part of this game, but the story and narrative make it worth it. I love 3rd person action, but this a lil clunky. Still fun though. GOTY nod deserved.
@@FelipeKana1 My impression was that it's worse actually. The enemies insta tping into meele range just doesn't work well with type of shooting mechanic
Of course! Who wouldn't want to deal with the Dark Place during a nice trip out to a lake? This does make me think that maybe Ahti is a workaholic. He just can't sit still and has to attend to everything.
if anybody still playing this, after you avoid the attacks, even if it isn't a perfect dodge, attack without aiming to hit them with the flashlight, that stuns them a good time enough for you to reload or aim for a headshot, i wish i knew earlier
5:12 The trouble is, Baldur's Gate III also has a rock opera musical number. (See Raphael's Final Act.) EDIT: Admittedly, that song is closer to standard opera. But that organ is clearly a rock organ.
Ngl, Saga's near-magical deduction abilities were one of the weakest bits of the narrative. Like, I would get it if say Rose mentioned "Oh, (resident) always steals from the other residents. Her nightstand is practically a shrine of stolen goods" and that lets her deduce maybe the missing item is there, but it really feels like she's just cheating and checking the game wiki 😂😂
I mean, I didn't dislike the explanation given. While at the start her deductions might have felt mighty annoying, the fact that their weirdness was mentioned by other characters kept me intrigued enough to reach the explanation.
@@delmattia96 She's related to MULTIPLE parautilitarians. Tor, Odin and Door; their powers are in her blood, I think it's a perfectly fine explanation for why she can do what she can.
Right as this video finished an ad played for 'Super Mario Bros Wonder' showing Mario and three others turning into an elephant. The epic voice guy comments have been warped into reality by Alan Wake 2. Alan Wake 2 has warped reality.
I went from playing this to Lords of the Fallen. And, yeah, full plate mail, you can definitely run faster than either a 30-something FBI agent or a writer can.
My only problem id like to see addressed is less jumpscares with nothing behind it. It makes the actual startling jumpscare less startling since they primed me with one 15 seconds earlier.
You referencing the flashing Mr. Scratch jumpscares? Because with that I would agree. I don't have anything against jumpscares by themselves, but that particular one was overused. Once, twice... Maaaaybe 3 times. But I really felt overstimulated with those. I didn't jump from the first time, which is fine, but it felt fitting. But when it happens over and over, whether I would have jumped or not, it was just too much.
"I have to write within the bounds of the genre. This is a horror story." I frigging loved this game, but when Alan said this shit i was like - then make it not a horror story, Mister Writer.
I got as far as the first real boss, then quit. The combat is awful; aiming and tracking is wonky, the enemies are damage sponges, and bullets are extremely scarce. The worst offense though is “the mind place”. I’ve never been so immediately annoyed with a game mechanic, especially one that’s unavoidable. The games a mess.
I did enjoy the game and story, but I do agree with some points. Even playing on Normal for a first run I felt the enemies were too much of a bullet sponge. I did find enough bullets and other items, however. And the Mind Place I also agree. It feels a bit too much of a time filler. It doesn't add anything nor needs to use a player's deductive abilities. You can't place a clue in the wrong place either, Saga will refuse to place a clue down incorrectly. So why doesn't she just place it where it belongs. To me it felt very much "giving the player the illusion they can do something". And while the story and gameplay to a degree is linear, so much of the player's control is taken out of their hands, I can't help but feel the Mind Place, and in particular the clue board, could have been so much more interactive. Like how maybe let the player place a clue wrong, have Saga say it feels wrong. If the player does continue with the wrong clue placed on the board, progress *can* be impeded, so Saga just needs to remark again how something is off with her clue board. I don't know, it's an idea. Maybe I'm using some incorrect wording, but I hope it makes sense.
next to do the legend of heroes series!!!(or cut it to 4 pieces trails in the sky 1-3 ,trails into azure and trails into zero , trails of cold steel and finally trails in the black and trails in the black 2: crimson sin.
"Dive into [her] mindplace, because who can afford a palace in this economy?" may be one of the best and most well-hidden jokes I've seen in a while.
i thought it was a reference to Detroit become human
I think one of the Sherlock Holmes games had a mind palace 🤔
@@RK800-re5lf I read it as a Persona 5 reference, but the fact that the joke works as a standalone that well makes it my favourite one. Especially with how low-key it was presented.
@@TheRealLanMisa I mean, within this context Persona 5's Palaces probably wasn't the intended joke. I mean, unless you're really looking into it. Either way, Persona is awesome. You looking forward to Reload?
@@Aliens1337 Really? Who would've thought?
The most unbelievable part of this game were the concession stand prices at the in game cinema. Those aren’t New York prices!
Maybe 2015 prices 😂
true but the $24 cocktails at the Oceanview Hotel are on point
@@VoltaDoMar yeah as one of these PNW clowns, i will admit i've spent over twenty each on cocktails at hipster hotel bars in Portland and Seattle.
But they were in the '70s ... perhaps a hint.
Tbf Alan hasn't been to New York in 13 years
"...literally no-one wears gloves in the crime scene" 😂
Love this, thank you for roasting our game ❤ (and yeah, we should have thought about the gloves thing, to be honest 🤭)
Yeah, during that scene I thought "Uhm ... gloves?!". But what a unique experience this game is! That musical sequence was genious (and gave me Peacemaker vibes). I usually don't like surrealim but both Alan Wake games (as well as Control) do it right!
If you're legit someone from Remedy I can't give you enough kudos for this game. It was more than worth the 13 year wait. I loved every minute of the game, the story, and I can't wait for Final Draft mode.
Time for a patch!
Why couldn't he just write "and I escaped" and solve all this
@@grapeshott Not sure, I've never asked this from Sam, but now I want to 😅
It would have been quite a boring game with that line anyways 🤭
That rock opera caught me completely off guard but I enjoyed the hell out of it.
Yes, but the comparison was off... BG3 has Raphael's fight in the house of hope plus a couple more performed by in-game characters as well, so is mostly a toss based on your preferences :p
‘Previously in Alan Wake’ gave me chills. Memories flooded back.
6:01 Alan Wake would anihilate Max Payne due to absolute advantage the bright flashlight to the face gives against hangover.
And then Jesse annihilates them both by yeeting chunks of concrete at them while hovering around the ceiling.
I loved Everything Everywhere Ahti at once. Great vid
in recognition of that wonderful Garth Marenghi's Darkplace reference, please say, "I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards."
I'm amazed you guys managed to review an Honest Trailer about Alan Wake 2, WITHOUT using a Jurassic Park "Alan!" reference.
“And no one uses gloves anymore” is what I said 10 minutes into the game. Either way I love this game. 10/10
Well no, he can't just write anything into his story.....it has to fit within the genre and has to follow a narrative causality (this was explained in the first game).
It's also clearly explained in the second game too. Some people just seem to miss it for some reason lol That said, it was worth the misunderstanding as it did lead to a damn good joke
I recall something to that effect, as well. There are rules, and he has to try to make his way out of a nearly impossible situation by finding loopholes in those rules, or clever ways to subvert them; a writer's dream and nightmare combined, sort of. It's not just survival; if he can pull it off, it's also proof that he can construct a compelling and plausible narrative.
But also getting out of the hell dimension, yeah.
NEERRDD!
@@FriedCassowary It's also kinda spelled out in the AWE dlc for Control
The craziest thing is I don’t know if he did
You may ask "Why is Ahti there?" It's because he's Ahti. He can do whatever he wants.
"Garth Marenghi's Deadly Premonition 2"
I give up, humor has officially peaked.
I respect Remedy to just went for it and gave us a clusterfuck of a charming narrative
Fun fact: one of the most well known My Little Pony OC's first appeared in an MLP/Alan Wake crossover.
I'm pretty sure that's just a fun bit of BS but I can't actually discount it outright because the internet is fuckin crazy, man.
OC?
I hate how this unlocked a 13 year old memory in me that I totally forgot about
WHAT???
Yep. I feel old now
Love the Garth Marenghi reference. DARKPLACE DARKPLACE!
It's honestly a shame this game isn't selling as well as it should. That Old Gods of Asgard sequence alone made it worth the price. Hopefully more people check it out in the future
It got plenty of GOTY nominations and has a decent shot at winning GOTY. Good words of mouth would help. Alan Wake 1 wasn't a huge financial success either. It just became a cult classic because of words of mouth.
How do you know that it's not sellin well?
@static7815 Epic Games funded the whole thing, so unsurprisingly they are not going to put it in Steam. This is like asking why Valve didn't put Half Life Alyx on Epic store.
@@Aliens1337 There's no way it wins GOTY in the same year as Baldur's Gate 3.
@@ArawnOfAnnwnof the 2 I like Alan Wake 2 waaaaaay more, but BG3 has a huge following so it's unlikely wake pulls it off, but if they did I don't think anyone would question it
This game is pure Remedy. Which is either a good thing or a bad thing.
Considering that they really haven't recovered from Quantum Break based on what people are criticizing, I'd say it's a bad thing. I'm just waiting for Max Payne 1 and 2 remake. I've lost most of my hope for the "old guard." Sam Lake is also the same person who signed off on Max Payne 3's story... look at how that franchise went when Rockstar took over.
It's really both
It’s good imo - don’t need another Ubisoft or EA, so let’s get a Remedy, which does something different. Can at least commend them for that. Remedy only makes Remedy games.
Definitely a good thing
@@troypowers750lol Max Payne 3 is good and generally remembered well. I prefer the first game and the weird post modern humor, but to act like 3 is a travesty is silly.
Please say: "Look at you, Mario. A pathetic creature of mushrooms and fireplants. Jumping and stomping as you run through the corridors of my eighth castle. How can you challenge a perfect immortal Bowser like me?"
".... Quantum Needs A Break" LOL
I agree with how much of a powerhouse you felt in Control and I thought the same about his imagination.
The reason he can't write a deus ex machina for himself is that it would be bad writing/art and that is "against the rules" of the dark place
@@fatidicusaeternus6498I do like how they set up the rules for the Dark place in the first game. Aside from just squashing the whole "why not just write your way out" question it actually really puts emphasis on the constraints of good creative processes
Nice video. Loved the game anyway! And the music level in every Remedy Game are just epic as always
That rock opera portion was so fun
Finally he mentions Max Payne! Been waiting for an honest review based on the games
Alan Wake EASTER EGG in Control!? I think you mean a WHOLE ASS DLC
The Easter egg was there before the DLC was announced. It's the page from Wake's manuscript in the Panopticon that's shown in the video. The DLC just confirmed the rumors that came from that.
Even before the dlc was announced, you could find a hidden room in the Panopticon upper levels (Panopticon is the place where they store and emprison Altered items) which had a typewriter and going close to it would make an echo of Alan appear, talking about trying to escape. I found this before the dlc was announced and as I huge fan of Alan Wake I was ecstatic!
I don't care what anyone says - I still prefer American Nightmare to this confusing surreal mess.
Please say “Wish I could’ve been there to see Caesar die. What an asshole.”
It's a must play(in the dark) game, even turn the light off on your controller, then you can see everything fine.
Ha! I thought the same thing when she was digging in that guy’s chest with no gloves. 🤣
Me too 😂😂😂
Hooray for puppet pal mitch! And puppet pal clem! Such a great deep cut!
"...so, take a sip of that coffee, and get ready for your mind to get sweetly coitused." 😂
4:53 that was smooth!
Ahiti and FBC are in this game?!....maybe I should get it.
RIP James McCaffrey (voice of Max Payne, Alex Casey, and others)
This trailer should have been rated "Double S" for "SERIOUS SPOILERS"
Mercy, it feels like I'm starting to watch a sitcom halfway through the final season
This game plays EXACTLY like some Resident Evil games. Small amount of super powerful enemies, inventory management and upgrades, hidden treasures. I honestly did not expect that after the first one.
No. It plays better. Less enemies, but they're tougher and the atmosphere keeps tense all throughout the game.
@@FelipeKana1it's better, but still the same style. The combat is my least favorite part of this game, but the story and narrative make it worth it. I love 3rd person action, but this a lil clunky. Still fun though. GOTY nod deserved.
@@adventurous_soles9899I didn't feel bad noobing it up in story. Only thing that changed was regular enemies only took 2 shots.
@@FelipeKana1 My impression was that it's worse actually. The enemies insta tping into meele range just doesn't work well with type of shooting mechanic
My sister literally gasped “why is John Wick in this” when Alan first showed up
Wait. So is THIS where Ahti went for his vacation?
Of course! Who wouldn't want to deal with the Dark Place during a nice trip out to a lake?
This does make me think that maybe Ahti is a workaholic. He just can't sit still and has to attend to everything.
if anybody still playing this, after you avoid the attacks, even if it isn't a perfect dodge, attack without aiming to hit them with the flashlight, that stuns them a good time enough for you to reload or aim for a headshot, i wish i knew earlier
Gotta try this
Please do Spiderman Twooooooo
In honor of the absence of the greatest walking lamp of all time, please say "BAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY!"
5:12 The trouble is, Baldur's Gate III also has a rock opera musical number. (See Raphael's Final Act.)
EDIT: Admittedly, that song is closer to standard opera. But that organ is clearly a rock organ.
Ngl, Saga's near-magical deduction abilities were one of the weakest bits of the narrative. Like, I would get it if say Rose mentioned "Oh, (resident) always steals from the other residents. Her nightstand is practically a shrine of stolen goods" and that lets her deduce maybe the missing item is there, but it really feels like she's just cheating and checking the game wiki 😂😂
I mean, I didn't dislike the explanation given.
While at the start her deductions might have felt mighty annoying, the fact that their weirdness was mentioned by other characters kept me intrigued enough to reach the explanation.
@@delmattia96 She's related to MULTIPLE parautilitarians. Tor, Odin and Door; their powers are in her blood, I think it's a perfectly fine explanation for why she can do what she can.
@@Ghost-Mom I mean, I know.
I said that I didn't dislike the explanation ahahahah
@@delmattia96 meant to reply to the other person, my bad.
I want a true detective season one like game..
That could be awesome. Using the mind place board mechanic from Saga's AW2
Please say: "Alan. Wake up, Alan. It is time for breakfast."
Right as this video finished an ad played for 'Super Mario Bros Wonder' showing Mario and three others turning into an elephant. The epic voice guy comments have been warped into reality by Alan Wake 2. Alan Wake 2 has warped reality.
Love the Garth Marenghi reference.
Blood. Blood. Blood. And bits of sick.
😎
Ahaha that joke/reference to GM’s Darkplace 😂
IS THAT A GODDAMN GARTH MARENGHI DARKPLACE REFERENCE IN 2023??
Now I want a Sam and Max Honest Trailer
For the show? The comic? The LucasArts game? The TellTale games?
This had me rolling thank you
We need an Honest trailer of the AW2 Expansion NightSprings :p
Still waiting for Spider-Man 2 honest trailer.
In memory of Peter Spellos, say:
"This ship's too cold. It needs some of my fire!"
“Okay so you’re just gonna put your hands into that chest cavity raw huh” THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING! 2:55
Say in your Awesome voice,
"Mom: Alan Wakeup!
Alan: I am Awake. Alan Wake" 😅😂
Stephanie Sterling made the Garth Merengie comparison weeks ago.
"Why are we here, just to suffer " prob said before, but ...I'm new!
I definitely appreciate the Garth Marenghi reference.
I went from playing this to Lords of the Fallen. And, yeah, full plate mail, you can definitely run faster than either a 30-something FBI agent or a writer can.
Please say "don't forget to hydrate, even in the winter"
YES! Revenge for Bambi's mother! Totally what the cult of the tree is after!
I know im late to the party with this channel but why does the narrator sound like a younger Duke Nukem 😂
please say in your epic voice "Not even you, Tarnished"
Do a Honest Game Trailer for Hyperdimension Neptunia
+
Yup the fbc is so bad at their jobs 😂😂,even in control their whole HQ got taken over cause they didn't stick to their own protocols💀💀
I so want a sequel to Playstation Allstars: Battle Royal!
I absolutely love remedy can’t wait for whatever is next
It's an incredible game. GOTY for me.
Hahaha😂 you're funny.
Now it's time for the most expensive dlc review: Modern Warfare III
*SHOW ME THE CHAMPION* *OF*
*LIGHT!!!*
🤘🤘🤘🤘
Say: "Mm, I love this one. My old man gave it to me."
Please say, “I serve… a higher authority…”
Please say "I'm a Barbie girl, in an Oppenheimer world"
💀
‘Who can afford a Palace in this economy’ Was that a motherfucking Persona reference?!
I was thinking more about the Mind-palace Benedict Cumberbatch's Sherlock uses
I'd watch Alan throw down against Jesse.
crazy light/dark reality warping vs spacial bending astral shenanigans
Twin peaks reference is accurate.
Have you guys done “Braid” already?
"mister steal your door"
ayo 💀💀💀
Oh man, now you have to an Honest Trailer for Sam & Max.
Do Honest Trailers for the Simcity/Cities Skylines games, Dwarf Fortress and Hyperdimension Neptunia!
upvote for the Garth Mahrenghi reference
Oh cmon, Stranger than fiction is a total banger
Please say: "Which would be the point of any game that doesn't has the original Max Payne dancing to a super obscure rock band?", thanks!
Hey, Stranger Than Fiction is underrated!
One of your best!
Please say,
"That noise you make with your mouth? It's more like a duck than a toad."
- Brain Pasternack (Yuppie Psycho: Executive Edition)
Everything, Everywhere, Ahti at Once made me spit out my drink.
Did you ever do an honest trailer for Jade Empire?
My only problem id like to see addressed is less jumpscares with nothing behind it. It makes the actual startling jumpscare less startling since they primed me with one 15 seconds earlier.
You referencing the flashing Mr. Scratch jumpscares?
Because with that I would agree. I don't have anything against jumpscares by themselves, but that particular one was overused. Once, twice... Maaaaybe 3 times.
But I really felt overstimulated with those. I didn't jump from the first time, which is fine, but it felt fitting.
But when it happens over and over, whether I would have jumped or not, it was just too much.
On the keyboard that creates reality, what would happen if an impossible statement were typed, such as, "And then a square circle appeared."
To be fair, every videogame universe would benefit from a Smash Bros crossover
Please do Spider-Man 2.
Also, please say "We are Venom! Bum duh bum buh bum bum bum" in the style of the Farmer's Insurance jingle/commercial.
“When you call for the Devil the Devil he will come”
Make an Honest Trailer for Super Mario RPG
Please do the Ace Combat series. I can't be the only one who wants it
"I have to write within the bounds of the genre. This is a horror story." I frigging loved this game, but when Alan said this shit i was like - then make it not a horror story, Mister Writer.
Dude needs to level up; _genre shift_ is a high level technique.
"SHOW ME THE CHAMPION OF LIGHT......." That is all.
I got as far as the first real boss, then quit. The combat is awful; aiming and tracking is wonky, the enemies are damage sponges, and bullets are extremely scarce. The worst offense though is “the mind place”. I’ve never been so immediately annoyed with a game mechanic, especially one that’s unavoidable. The games a mess.
I did enjoy the game and story, but I do agree with some points. Even playing on Normal for a first run I felt the enemies were too much of a bullet sponge. I did find enough bullets and other items, however.
And the Mind Place I also agree. It feels a bit too much of a time filler. It doesn't add anything nor needs to use a player's deductive abilities.
You can't place a clue in the wrong place either, Saga will refuse to place a clue down incorrectly. So why doesn't she just place it where it belongs.
To me it felt very much "giving the player the illusion they can do something". And while the story and gameplay to a degree is linear, so much of the player's control is taken out of their hands, I can't help but feel the Mind Place, and in particular the clue board, could have been so much more interactive.
Like how maybe let the player place a clue wrong, have Saga say it feels wrong. If the player does continue with the wrong clue placed on the board, progress *can* be impeded, so Saga just needs to remark again how something is off with her clue board.
I don't know, it's an idea.
Maybe I'm using some incorrect wording, but I hope it makes sense.
next to do the legend of heroes series!!!(or cut it to 4 pieces trails in the sky 1-3 ,trails into azure and trails into zero , trails of cold steel and finally trails in the black and trails in the black 2: crimson sin.