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EGON WATER-HUB. SIMPLEST 4X4 DIY WATER SYSTEM INSTALLATION IN THE WORLD BY FAR
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.พ. 2023
- IT'S A GAME CHANGER!
VERSION 2.0 is now available. A year of testing and 6 months into delivery the EGON WATER-HUB is now available to purchase. Which means we are now ready to tell everyone about this unique product:
The World’s Most Efficient Way To Plumb Water Systems In Boats, Caravans, 4wds And Off-Grid Homes.
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Some are questioning its price. It was never designed from the outset to be cheap. Performance benchmarks were set during design, and then the price point appeared. Margins are not particularly high. It's made in Australia where assembly is expensive. We won't have it made in Asia. EGON wishes to support local businesses and communities first.
On today's episode: Andrew waves his arms around, two men get excited about their plumbing, and Heiner is proud of his unit.
9/10. Very good effort!
@@4xoverland Many thanks Andrew, your reply means a great deal.
I pinned your comment. I often do.
@@4xoverland And I always appreciate being at the top of the list.
I thought I'm the only one who noticed, I feel better now..
Terrific to see some manufacturing still done in OZ. Great ideas and products you have there. Wish you all the best with the product sales. Really like how you have demonstrated the use in very rudimentary installs. This would be my preference for high flexibility. Yet can use very effectively in upmarket builds.
Holy shivers!! I think I'd rather heat water in a bucket then take a 2 thousand dollar egon shower 😅
That's awesome. What would be fantastic is if you could come up with a companion box that contained water filters so you can stick a hose into a creek or something and get fully filtered and ready to drink water.
Or a one stop shop for tank, creek and heating both. I'd buy the unit today but I'm not sure what to use for heating. Or a box with hot/cold output of both - dirty and tap water.
Man, overlanding has come a long way! Back in the 1980’s and early ‘90’s while overlanding around Africa we heated water on our camp fire, soaped up and dumped the warm water over our heads. For a bit of luxury once in a while we would pay for a swim at a safari lodge and shower there. We didn’t have refrigeration back then either. We used to buy fresh meat in the market first thing in the morning, then put the meat in a stainless steel bowl and covered the bowl with a wet towel. As the towel dried and the water evaporated, the air in the bowl cooled and kept the meat until we cooked it that night. Primitive but effective. I think all the modern gadgets are fantastic and would love to go overlanding again with all the modern kit.
Civilization has come a long way in 30-40 years in general.
I still shower that way when we go camping!
Hello from Kenya!
Pomy baths are good in between showers.
@@nadeem23 Hi Nadeem, my first adventure in Africa was a trip to Kenya and Tanzania in 1986. All these years later I still remember how excited I was to land in Nairobi, the first night camping in the bush, the first animal sightings etc. I would have to say the most unexpected encounter was seeing and listening to all the beautiful birds. I didn’t really take much notice of birds until my trips to Africa and Australia, so many beautiful, colourful birds. One day, if health permits, I would like to return one last time.
The first Ad on TH-cam that I've enjoyed seeing.
After watching your video I ordered the Egon hub what arrived from Australia couple weeks ago. We just finished the installation of the Egon hub, water filtration system, 90l LRA water tank and we used instead of the Duetto a heat exchanger from the engine heater. Yes, the Egon made the complete installation a lot easier and more straightforward. Next week off to Iceland, where we going to test the system specially the hot shower,
Thank You again for the excellent review
You guys are the real deal i have done several builds vans and overland trucks these products are a true game changes less time in the shop more time o the trail
Hi Andrew, thank you for a great video. It’s always nice being transparent and showing you have an personal interest in something. I will be adding this to my wish list. Thank you again.
Awesome content as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
Great inventions , keep up the good work boys.
awesome to see these ground up approaches to things! Some/all of this stuff will be in my build!
Great product concept. Looks also like a thorough product development (you thought and suffered the user pain). And funny way to present it: congrats!
lovely set ups
that is amazing!
love that system !
Dear Andrew (and friends), I'm always in awe of the amount of gadgets and solutions that can make life more convenient on the go. And Andrew with his constant desire to experiment is always very interesting. But I still think the old-fashioned way: what isn't there, doesn't break. I know, it's an ancient way of traveling, but if you travel like me in a desert like the Sahara (a very different social, political and environmental context from South Africa and Australia) you quickly learn that simplicity is superior to any comfort, in terms of safety. In fact, the only thing I've adopted with satisfaction from the "Australian style of travel" is the rubbish bag on the spare wheel.
In any case, thanks for your work. A hug from Italy.
Where abouts on the camel do you stick the rubbish bag?.
@@magicalvortex On the spare wheel of my camel (dromedary to be precise) which is also called HDJ 80.
Great piece of Kit
Fantastic! Just straighten out those pipes for aesthetics guys
Very impressive 👍
Its great to see a sparky in the water game .....
Fantastic! I’m sharing across my social media now.
Thanks for sharing!!
This water hub thing seems like a really good idea. I want to see it being tested using a gas geyser. Let explain why. A lot of us heat our water using gas. Gas water heating wastes a lot of water. I wonder how it would work in a case where the hot water takes 30 seconds to be hot because the gas geyser is still busy doing its thing 7:33
What a fantastic product. Well done!
I think these are all really great ideas. One thing I think would be a good idea is moving the switch holes above the outlet labels. Unless there’s a reason why they’re separate that I’m not seeing.
Good Job!
I think this is one of your better I dears.
Congratulations men 😉
Good job fellas
wow - this is awesome - really innovative - im definitely checking out Perth Pro 👍
im building a very basic overlander - will be going to you guys for all my electrical stuff - i.e. aux electrical system - super impressed - love the whole modular system so i can invest in quality products and then transfer them to my next vehicle 🤠
Hi guys. This looks like a fantastic unit. If the reliability is as good as its features and looks then there's no reason why this thing shouldn't sell like hotcakes.
FYI
Some month ago I finished the install of my extra lights on my Jimny. I had no idea of your relay-hub so I did it the old fashioned way.
Result …
A lot of work and a result exceeding my expectations. I have a theoretical(!) Lumens vale of more than 46’000. I have 1 Lux at around 1’000 meters.
Your relay hub should have made my installation easier without any quality lost.
- Looking forward to your video on the relay hub.
I like it!
The ending … 😂 Damn man, you’re good! ❤
The relay hub is interesting
Nice !
Awesome
Great to see the innovation 💡 👏 👍
Looks like a very good option. Question about the shower head. It looked like it was leaking as the water was coming out. Was that more so from the lower pressure than what would normally be in a house?
Awesome products, i hope the relay hub will be Bluetooth controlled!
Great invention, I will greatly consider in few months when our caravan arrives.
One item I haven’t seen is a hot water system using the exhaust as the heater. If you had a small 10L tank recirculating water around the exhaust for few hours I’m sure it would get hot and save you a lot of energy. Do you have anything in mind for this?
Also be great for cuppa when travelling on road on journey.
Very exciting, it looks great! How would it handle temperatures below freezing? Is there a function/procedure to “winterize” the system?
Imagine this with a tank and a Watergen system? You could really extend your time in the field.
Egon -Optimizing Overlanding.👍
other little of 24v on market today for overland truck 4x4
We use a Joolca which both heats and mixes but the shower head looks like it would be a great replacement.
I've heard that the Joolca takes quite some time to get up to temperature therefore wasting water. What has been your experience? cheers
@@cyclemoto8744 Our one is practically instant. We have a vid on it coming out in a few weeks. Quite impressed. We bought the whole kit which was around the $700 mark. I think the price of Andrew's one will be a bit of a stumbling block for many people. I thought about getting the shower head until I saw the price.
G'day Andrew, I can not deny that the system is a brilliant idea made with quality components, Hell even Homer Simpson could hookup the kit. We run a similar
system & component's but not as well presented or compact. I went over to the online store to check it all out especially the shower rose but had to take a mental
step backward's when I saw the price, although admittedly I haven't bought components for a few years & may be a little out of step with the cost of things.
We didn't make them cheap. We made them good. Can't have both.
@@4xoverland Hi Andrew please don't get me wrong it's a great product and the idea is great but the pumps cost 30$ per piece and the automatic thermostat mixing valve costs only 30$ then without filter! I'm sorry but I don't see the price! I know that Australia is expensive but that's really over it! I wish you and Heiner much success! no hate no front thank you
@@4xoverland Yes I agree mate, as I mentioned it's been a fare while since we did our build & naturally things go up in price. So please don't get me wrong I think it's brilliant & will suit a wide variety of builds, from the Professional to Joe Blow DIY enthusiast. Regards, Steve.
Love the products. Perfect for a boat build coming up. Does the grey water go through the hot water system as well?
yes and no. It mixes it only if you run the grey water pump. But no if you use the fresh water pump.
So simple but clever! So can it be used to supply fresft water to a storage hot water system and grey water to the tmv cold water system side? I don't want grey water in my Hws.
Good morning. Would the relay box be the switching panel you spoke about two years ago
All on one with a heater unit would be good
Not good. This way the heater can be hidden and out of the way while with switches and the control valve accessible. Two years of fitting them to dozens of caravans, 4wd etc. Believe me. Separate is far better. Just join them with a single pipe and fit them anywhere.
I got no idea what heater to use . Why not include one? With wiring
So why is this better than a Joolca or similar that has the water heater built into the unit?
If you wished to have hot water to wash dishes in a sink, do I have it correct that the mixing tap at the sink would get its cold water from the hub and hot hot water direct from the water heater through a separate pump?
Thank you for the great vids. I own a Troopy in Canada. If a subscriber wanted to ask you a question where is the best place to ask? Thanks for your time.
The only place: www.patreon.com/Andrew_StPierre_White
what for 24v in big trucks ?
thank you for great video
many military and agricultural vehicles run on 24V systems.
Lots of comments about price. What people seem to forget is that you’re also paying for the R&D and experience. It’s like saying why does this tradie cost $100/hr and this one cost $200/hr? Hire the cheap one and find out…
Hi Andrew. Just wondering; havent You mixed up the hot Water IN-take with the hot water OUT-let on this video-text.(Not what Heiner is explaining, but the subtitles with arrows....?) This product will not work where I live, because it misses a proper draining system. Frost would sadly kill it rather quick. Fantastic idea, though. Love it!!! Norwegian Overlander
cool unit, just needs a secondary box with charcoal and UV filters attached so you can refill the onboard water tanks with clean water using your pump system
I was just checking the prices for this unit.
Beautiful product but these new ideas are so much $$$$$$$$
It was never meant to be cheap. Performance benchmarks were set during design, and then the price point appeared. Margins are not particularly high. It's made in Australia where assembly is expensive. We won't have it made in Asia. EGON wishes to support local businesses and communities first.
Andrew u never talk about the water heater and how tho ground it thanks
run a cable to the body or preferably battery neg.
Nice product, but for R24 423.06 in South Africa that will be a NO THANKS.
Is that R 24, 423.06 for the water boxie? 😨😨😨
@@labourlawact7826 Yes just the Water-Hub, not including the shower head and hose, calculated on todays US-dollar to rand exchange.
@@pounceonyou1958 Gosh! Ouch, and eina 😨
It was never meant to be cheap. Performance benchmarks were set during design, and then the price point appeared. Margins are not particularly high. Its made in Australia where assembly is expensive. We won't have it made in Asia. EGON supports local businesses and communities.
@@4xoverland It's an awesome product, that I'm sure will last for a very long time, giving excellent results. For budget builds in South Africa, unfortunately it's way above our reach. Still, it is way way better than the cheap nasty stuff coming out of Asia. Definitely something worthwhile to consider for the serious overlanding enthusiast. Well thought out, and clever design admittedly. ☺👍👋
On 4xoverland, are those prices AUD or USD?
Sorry I think I must of missed something. What heats the water ?
Any water heater.
It looks good, but it's super expensive. Just looking at the internal layout, could you just run a straight fresh water outlet pipe (blue) with a t-piece that goes straight to the mixer (via the check valve) and another t-piece before the mixer takes joins the grey water pump, with a t-piece on that line joins the HWS feed? That would de-clutter the internals, use less joiners and have fewer connections (fail points).
The interesting thing about this, is that it looks easy to reverse engineer. So go for it. But don't ask me to explain why we did it this way. You'll find out in your own good time.
Does the relay hub use solid state relays?
It can use any relay that uses standard automotive connections.
Hi, do you still recommend the duoetto heater to be used with this system?
yes.
What are you recommending for heating the water prior to entering the water hub?
Works with any water heater.
Hi Andrew,
It would be great to see what you reccommend as a water heater e.g. gas vs 240V vs 12V systems
And please add "The Smallest Capacity Electric water heater" to supply a shower please ?
We recommend the Aqueous 10L water heater.
@@4xoverland Thank You.
Are the pumps self priming
yes.
Also sell it to high-end tour busses, maybe airplanes and boats too. Send me a fat commission when it works. 🦓
I also think these are excellent ideas except for one thing, the prices. Much too expensive, maybe they cost a lot to make but, if you want to sell lots of these then realistic prices are the way to go. You make Redarc look like a cheap brand.
Hi what hot water unit best matches with this unit?
there is no ideal one because any one works.
Hello ,
Can you recommend the Guzzle filter? I'm looking for a water filter for the Egon water hub.
H2O Guzzle is a good product. I am planing to use them again in my new build.
@@4xoverland thank you Sir
Maybe I don’t get it but it does not heat the water and it does not filter water does it? What’s the point just pumping and mixing cold-warm water?
What are you using to heat the water?
anything.
You can put a jerry can next to the fire, and dunk the hot water inlet into that if all else fails. 😅
And the water heater?
works with any water heater.
Command 60 gal tank like in Canada? U use asian one 220 volt one phase? And ground last year's 29 Thai died becose no f.. ground on ther heater
Amps Boitke?
Andrew where in South Africa can I buy this from? Or do you ship to South Africa?
we do. www.4xoverland.com/shop/
Andrew I see the exact same showerhead in South Africa for R450. Thats less than Aus$45. Either your supplier screwing you or you make 1000+ % profit.
The shower head is just one part of the shower kit.
Love the concept…but a $479 shower hose/head? Oof.
The shower head is just one component of the kit which includes a complete set, pre-assembled for shower and kitchen, and grey water intake. We won't have them assembles in Asia. EGON supports local businesses and communities.
watching this because of his rolex
cool! Its 10:03 am here in Western Australia.
@@4xoverland its 10:20am here in PH
Love the idea guys and I totally understand your purpose but holy crap on the prices. For the average person these are just out of reach. But once again great products.
We didn't design it for the ordinary person. We designed it to be the best system available, anywhere.
Really shouldn't be difficult to copy and make your own water distribution box for a guy with a bit of a diy brain.
I think it was mentioned early in the vid that it reduced installation time by an average of 6 hours; when you consider you'll pay over $100 an hour to an auto elec, It's a time saving device which pays for itself during installation by an auto elec, However if you do the installation yourself, this rule does not apply because nobody pays themselves $120 an hour to do an installation. However it does simplify the installation, and keep all the fuses neat in close proximity with the relays and makes fault finding a little easier as there are many test points on the circuit board, They even put in led's to indicate blown fuse if your that way inclined. I think it's a good product overall, however I usually do all that on the go and it saves on wiring distances. But for the auto-elec it saves a lot of time crimping and all you have to do is strip and connect the cable with the Egon Hub. Just my 2 cents worth as a dual traded electrical fitter / electrical mechanic with a good electronics background. Looks to be a good solid unit, and when you start pricing up all the individual components you'll see why it's priced accordingly. It's a bare bone system to keep the price low which can grow as you add more stuff to it such as relays, fuses and the like.
@@magicalvortex I build the same thing with the same pumps and the mixing valve and the box for just under $200 !
@@KB-ou5vj Yes but you don't pay yourself $120 an hour to do it. These guys have to factor in labor, parts, overheads, etc..., and they look like quality SS external fittings. The idea that I think most ppl are missing is that it saves on labor install costs. Instead of paying a qualified person to do all the plumbing work, your paying a suitably trained person to pre do it, but each to their own. We're not dealing with Chinese made stuff were you can't even buy the parts for what they make it for. When you buy Australian, the buck stops here, and your buying your kids a job.
Only two disadvantages i see: price and the second one - yes you can wash your car with that but u are unable to swap for cold water. Basically it is thermostatic tap with one output. So everytime you turn it on you are using / wasting your hot water. I know you have cold water tap at the back of your car but should be easy to run second pipe and a add mixing tap to shower. So you can decide if you want to use cold or warm water. And also. Why are you always disconnecting the shower hose etc. and draing water to car. Wouldn’t it be easier to just pack it inside and have it always ready?
Make a simplified unit without the grey water option. The concept is awesome but the grey water pump is not something that everyone needs
Funny enough it is the corrugations that really destroys electrics and water connections.
We tested them, in over 30 of them installed all over Australia. Our two both tested on the Canning stock route. No leaks. No comebacks. We decided now that testing program is complete.
Seems like a good idea but I just don't see why it costs $1,400. The temp valve cost $250 and both of the pumps cost less than $50. How is the case and piping worth $1000?
It's not assembled in a sweat shop in China. It's built here in Australia. If you are doing an instal yourself, work out how to plumb it, run the pipes and pumps and valves yourself, and yes, you'll probably save some money. What is worth more to you? Time or money? I can't answer that for you.
Great but too expensive
Performance benchmarks were set during design, and then the price point appeared. Margins are not particularly high. Its made in Australia and assembly is expensive. We won't have it made in Asia. EGON supports local businesses and communities.
@@4xoverland I understand an appreciate your reply. Good luck with the product sale
It’s disappointing to find out that Ineos didn’t invite you to test out the Grenedier. All the typical car reviewers have gone to Scotland to review it. But I can see you haven’t. Really disappointing!
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I wonder how long it will take Kings and Kickass to rip off the concept.
So you delete comments calling out your ridiculous pricing.
I might have done. We design and build for optimum quality. If you want cheap and something that sort-of-works and breaks after a year, you've come to the wrong place.
Performance benchmarks were set during design, and then the price point appeared. Margins are not particularly high. Its made in Australia and assembly is expensive. We won't have it made in Asia. EGON supports local businesses and communities.
@@4xoverland interesting. I was talking about the price of the exact same shower head unit that you can get on online for $20 yet you sell it at $479. How does that pricing work?
I think we're talking about the markup, not the quality.
It's a great all in one and I see the use case for high production shops and just past the cost to the customer that willingly pays these prices. It's a high margin low quantity pricing model. Which you're free to choose what you want.
I would guess app comments on price are from DIYers like myself that would rather put in some sweat and save a few hundred and still install quality parts.
Like your PCB boards. Whether is a Chinese, American or Australian robot making them it's still a robot. I'm looked into sourcing custom PCB boards for power distribution and once designed they're made for under $20 USD. The markup is for the design and sourcing. And with your kind of markup you're either trying to be millionaires in a couple years or you don't plan on selling many.
The overpriced economy is slowing down and the market isn't readily paying these prices anymore.
Great design though. I hope you figure out a better pricing model.
Where do I buy one 😊😊
www.egon.com.au/