Hey Captain Drone! My name is Gage and I'm the customer support lead over at Rotor Riot. I'm so glad to hear that you really enjoyed the HD1-XR build you bought! I'd like to cover a couple quick notes I took while watching the video- The first is that yes, we don't worry as much for the presentation with the drone coming out of the box. Our reasoning is that they're freestyle drones, and they're made to be durable and bounce around when flying without issue, so being packed in with other hardware shouldn't be too bad. We pack it a little nicer for international packages that have to go overseas though, as those boxes can sometimes get a little more damaged during shipping. We are looking to get some foam fillers to put in the box around the arms / body to fit the frames, but our priority right now is just making sure all our builds are flying great out of the box. For the ESCs that you see on the arms, those are actually just "race wire", basically a flat strip to extend the length of the motor wires. By default, all the motors we offer in our store aren't long enough to reach from the 7in arms to the 4-in-1 ESC (under the FC), so we use that race wire to extend the length, and hopefully also help protect the wire on the off chance the propeller gets bent downwards and would have struck the motor wire. For the flight controller swap (the F4 vs the F7), that was a bit of a tough case we were put in. We recently had switched all of our builds over to the F7 flight controller and updated the listings, but after doing a LOT of testing with the new F7's we were using, we were getting a ton of vibrations when flying. We wanted to make sure the drone would fly as good as it can, so we did a quick swap over to the F4 FCs as those have been flying MUCH better with our HD1-XR frame and build. I've reached out to our warehouse manager, Tyler, to make sure we update all the listings as well, so thank you for pointing that out! And finally, while we don't include an instruction sheet directly in the box, you may have noticed on the one arm that there is a tag with 2 signatures on it. That's our builder, and our Quality Control tester. If that QC tester said "GH" on it, that was me! :) On the other side of that tag, we have a QR code, which should direct you to our starter guide for all digital drones we offer. I've posted the link below if you'd like to look it over. Overall, I loved the review and your thoughts on our builds! Please feel free to reach out to me directly if you have any future questions about our builds and I'd be glad to assist you! My email is gage@rotorriot.com And here is the link to our starter guide that the QR code should take you to: rotorriotsupport.helpscoutdocs.com/article/53-rotor-riot-built-tuned-drone-quick-liftoff-guide
Hi Gage. This is Steve (AKA Captain Drone). Thanks for jumping in with the info. Right after I posted the video I took the tape off what I thought to be ESCs and saw the race wire (Duh!) and posted the correction in the video description. I was not aware the QR Code provided the info for beginners but now that I read the "super tiny faded" print, I see that it says "Please read the quick start guide by scanning the QR Code below"... how did I miss that :-) I understand the F4 & F7 issue and a suggestion might be that if you don't change the info on the website, then perhaps include the explanation in the box with the drone. Mine was built by "MM" and tested by what looks to be the letter "R". Overall I'm very happy with the performance of the drone & will use it in my summer RC Plane chase vids. Thanks Gage!
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Yep, that paper idea for the FC swap is a great idea! I'll definitely pass that along to the team. And we'll make that font a little bigger for the QR code message. If you didn't see it and you're being particular about talking about the build, I wonder if others had the same problem. Enjoy the drone and happy flying!
I believe those are race wires on the arms since the motor wires are not long enough to reach the ESC. It looks like a T-Motor HD stack which has a 4 in 1 ESC.
Loved that intro landing (0:23)! 😎 made me chuckle. Great review…I have several of the 5” rotor riot HD1’s and they are well tuned. They could take a few pointers from iFlight on packaging (but honestly doesn’t bother me). Stay warm this winter. 🥶 🥶 🥶.
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I flew a few Rotor Riot BNFs and yes, the packaging is meh, but the build quality and tuning always have been amazing.
Great review. I have zero experience in FPV. I tried building one 5 years ago, and failed , all the parts are in a bin. Then a couple months ago I found the Rotor Riot prebuilt starter kits. I bought the Le Drib 3in cinewoop starter kit. It was shipped to me in about 2 weeks. Like I said earlier, I have zero experience, and I could not get my kit to bind or even fly. I work all week, and only have the weekends to play around. I asked for help on the Facebook Rotor Riot community page ,and many people reached out to me, but Tyler from Rotor Riot saw my plea for help, and called me at home on a Saturday to get me flying. 10 mins later I was able to fly my drone. Rotor Riot customer service is awesome. I just purchased the Vision40. Hoping its here in about a week. They already sent me all the binding and flashing instructions. So this is a very daunting task for me, never flashed Betaflight, I don't even know what that means. If I did not believe rotor riot would help me through this binding process, I would not even bother. If I get my Vision40 and I'm flying it shortly after I get it, my next quad will be a 5inch Rotor Riot build, guarantied. Some people complain that their quads are a little overpriced, maybe for you guys that are electronics nerds, but for truck drivers like me, who don't have time tinker and solder and tune and troubleshoot and just want to fly, I more than happy to pay a couple extra bucks to have someone walk me through the process to get me flying, fast. Oh, And by the way, I have many hours on Velocidrone so I did not need a lot of time to learn to fly the real thing, sims to work for beginners.
The problem with super thick arms is that in a severe enough crash, if the arms doesn't break it torques on the fuselage and usually the bottom plate is the one that gives out. If like most quads your electronics are mounted to the bottom plate, then changing out an arm becomes a lot more preferable :D
I bought their Skyliner 5” and honestly, for the money, I was disappointed in the packaging as well. Not to mention, no protection other than a slim piece of electrical tape around the motor wires. At least Iflight uses flat plastic tubes to protect motor wires from prop strikes and they cost less. To their credit, the frame is tough as nails, but the arms are very wide and they act like wings and makes the drone “floaty”, which might be what they were going for considering Le Dribs flying style. Great review though, the arms are massive!
Hey dude! I'm the customer support guy at RR. Thanks for the feedback about the motor wire tape. We recently switched over to a similar tube setup for our builds, so any future builds shouldn't have that issue.
@@FlyingPenguinDrones Must have been very recent. I got my skylines less than a month ago...still has the electrical tape holding motor wires down. Didn't think anything of it since I use that on my builds.
@@fpvsmurf Honestly IDK anymore. They fired me back in February, so they might've cheaped out on parts and gone back to tape again. Honestly I don't recommend them anymore. iFlight makes better buy-and-flies now.
I enjoyed most how you can fly drones. I will need so much practice to become half as good as you can fly drones. Thank you for the review and awesome footage. 👍
It's easy to get into the fpv hobby but it's mentally difficult staying in the hobby. The learning curve is just too steep for some people. For me though, it's the one thing my soul has been craving. Flying always gave me a feeling of freedom from life, from my problems, emotions, and worries. I used to dream of flying as a kid and this is the one thing that's brought the magic back into my life.
I bought the Skyeliner HD from rotor riot . It's very smooth and it's Unbreakable. I love this so much I bought a second one just for the hell of it. And I'm fixing to buy a 7-inch in the near future
i dont know if this would appeal to everyone but eyecare when flying would be a video i'd click on, not so much with fpv but camera drones. Well i watch all CDs videos, i think i can even tell how happy he is through the montage
Esc's on the arms might be old school, but seems smart to me. Especially since I burned one on the Nazgul, and had to replace the whole board.. Enjoyed watching. ""Above normal"" in the 70° 's here Captain, I feel for you.
I bought a cinewhoop from Rotor Riot and after one soft landing the buzzer fell out of the drone and disconnected, it flew really well but I thought the build was not very sturdy
Hey Michael! I'm sorry to hear about that buzzer issue. Did we build your drone with the buzzer installed? We typically don't offer buzzer installs, which is why I ask.
@@michaelripple8371 Gotcha. I'm the customer support lead at RR and I try to make sure everyone's builds are working as expected. Sorry to hear about that issue! If it happens again please let me know and we can try to work out a fix for you.
Not that Capt Drone needs validation ..... Steve - you are so "right" about the HD1-XR7. I ordered one shortly after your review, and have flown it many times -- but, today was the first time I flew it with a 4S battery, IT FLIES SO MUCH BETTER ON 4S. I know it has "magic tuning" that makes automatic adjustments between 6S and 4S - but the change in maneuverability (nimbleness) was simply awesome. I assume it is the lighter weight of the 4S - but, whatever the reason -- CAPT DRONE's observations are GOLDEN!!!!!
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Yes, nimble. Like you, I also have the Chimera7 (albeit I think 2x7" drones is sufficient, so I would not use the modifier "plenty" to describe my 7" size drones. smile).
Nice video, it would be nice to see it compared side by side a typical 5in. I enjoy your lighter drone videos. As a clarification, you're actually a qallunaat of the south (nanook is polar bear and the fact you have trees means you are in the south), but you did properly use of iglu even though you likely meant igluvijaq for snowhouse.
If I had to guess they must have a dynamic profile for 4 & 6S with a larger motor output / throttle limit for 6S - that KV and 6S on 7" should really be insanity. That being said those motors are absolutely *tiny* for what most fly on 7". I really think that most people are running ~2806.5 or maybe 2507 for that size for optimal wind handling and overall performance. You do pay a weight and flight time penalty for that though, of course.
In the old days I used to, but I have not done that in 4 years and have had zero problems. Snow is cold and in a solid format, so the trick is to pick up your drone after it lands in the snow and unplug the battery (the VTX is the hottest part). Blow out the snow and you're ready to fly again.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Thanks for the quick reply. It just seems to be a pain in the butt to do this. I was about to tear my drone down too. I was thinking exactly what you said. Its like 10 degrees where I live today. Snow isn't melting anytime soon.
Yikes? That would be impossible. You see the DJI FPV drone is not a true FPV drone, it is a hybrid between a camera drone & FPV drone. This is why it is fragile and has batteries that are crazy expensive. In the real FPV hobby, drones are made out of carbon fiber and you can use any battery you wish and any controller you wish and do things that are not possible with the DJI FPV drone, and the reverse is true for the DJI FPV drone…. With that drone you can do things that are not possible on a normal FPV hobby drone.
@@MrHotjag It has its place… in learning basic flight controls I think. Also learning line of sight nose in, having the panic button can save from tons of crashes.
Great video. I'm little disappointed by Rotor Riot and their customers services also. I just bought a 5" cinewhoop. In description it listed HB F7 fc but I received a t-motor stack f4 hd version 😕. The excuse is they couldn't get the correct fly settings with the F7. So they just gave me 10% discount on their store.
Very Interesting... So that explains the change in my Flight Controller as well. Hmmm..... One would think they would update their website with the correct info when making such changes.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Kinda bait and switch, don't you think?! How much effort could it be to change that little bit of text. I could do that on my website in less than 5 minutes. 😳🙄
@@KOrnhOliO1 Hey Sco0t, we have a lotttt of listings to update, and occasionally one of them slips by us without getting updated. We're always updating our builds to make sure they are the best they can be, but we're human and sometimes make mistakes. We always try to make it up to the customers though!
Wow very nice. Was thinking about the DJI FPV. But damn that drone seems like more bang for your buck , especially since I fly analog 4s . The only thing holding me back is my 62 year old eye sight. I’d have to have lenses cut . Ug.
@CAPTAIN DRONE Think I might take the plung in the near future. Love FPVing my 5" Quadcopters but love the range and flight time of my Air2s. Wish DJI would link up the Goggles.
Thanks for an awesome video captain Steve! I just bought the tmotor ft5 mk11 6s for %400.00 u.s dollhairs. I recommend picking one of the up the components and tune for a BNF are amazing!!! I'd love to see a review from you! I have 5 BNF and this one really gets up a goes even more then my Nasgul 5 surprisingly anyway cheers you rock captain Steve 👍
I'm not opposed to using recyclable (truly recyclable) packaging, but it's not that expensive to have pressed-paper package inserts made (think egg cartons.
I fly 7 inch quads now exclusively, for freestyle, Cinema, and even flying at Drift Car racing events at speedways. They are fast, quiet, and stable. I think your R-Line battery is likely a 130c, whereas that GNB might have been lower. That difference, plus the extra weight, and the cold air may have affected that GNB negatively more than the R-Line. I fly R-Line 3.0 and 4.0 versions mostly now, because they don't sag like all of the other brands I try from time to time, and their behaviors are super reliably consistent in comparison. Thanks for this fantastic review, Cap! I really enjoyed it, and feel you covered it in really good depth. Happy New Year!
Hello sir great review! Im currently ordering a 5 inch drone from them to be shipped to Canada. The problem is as soon as I add batteries to my shopping list, it wont ship. Is this a Rotor Riot thing or a shipping batteries across the border thing? Just wondering if you run into similar issues getting batteries. Any advice would be appreciated Thanks.
Must be a ROTOR RIOT thing. You see in the USA, the customs folk don't like LIPO batteries coming into the country that exceed two batteries, so perhaps the ROTOR RIOT folk think Canada is the same way. Just do like the rest of Canadians and buy your batteries off of AMAZON Canada.
I’m new to Fpv and was wondering if I could buy the DJI goggles v2, the original controller, and for example this drone. Would I be able to bind all these together and get them to fly? Would that be the best option? Thanks. Looking forward to more videos on your channel!
@@SkyPathProductions not really you just need to hold the bind buttons. If you bundle the transmitter and goggles with the hd1 they should come pre bound
SKYPATH DRONES. If you buy everything from ROTOR RIOT, then everything should be setup and bound together. If you buy everything separate on your own, then in your V2 goggles you have to go to the ABOUT screen and change the transmission so that it works with FPV drones, then shut down goggles and power back on and you'll be able to connect to the digital FPV Drone hobby. As for binding everything, it is super simple. You can watch my vid entitled FPV FOR BEGINNERS EPISODE 10 for pointers on binding and BETAFLIGHT switch setup.
@@SkyPathProductions piece of cake 🍰 ! Plus, no way you have to buy a Rotor Riot drone. If I were you, I'd buy a very small drone or a whoop. There's a big learning curve for flying FPV. It takes quite a bit of practice. I've been flying FPV for over 6 years now, and I receive no gain depending on what you buy. So, if I were to start again, I'd go DJI digital and get the V2 goggles. I own them myself. Get the DJI upgraded foam, because they don't fit your face worth a damn! Upgraded foam does though! $15 - order it with your V2 Goggles, because the foam they come with is worthless! Seriously. I'd get a good FPV simulator (watch TH-cam videos to choose one) and practice flying on the computer before flying a real FPV drone. It takes time to get the hang of it. Practice in Acro mode - that's fully manual mode. We all fly in that mode so we have complete control of the drone. Flying in any other mode and the automatic features try to help you out, but battle you for control. Plus, you can get bad habits from using those modes. After you get good in the simulator, flying in Acro mode, get yourself a whoop! Palm of the hand sized whoops are super fun to fly, and because they are so lightweight, they have very little inertia to damage themselves when you crash. Big bonus! Lol Just understand, you will crash constantly at first... So, having a drone that will not get damaged as easily is essential to not getting totally bummed out when you crash and break a larger drone... Making it not fly anymore, and you having to figure out how to fix it, when you are new to the hobby. And you will do that... We all have! You want your first experiences to be positive, right? 👍 So, less chance of breakage equals a more positive experience! And, whoops are probably the easiest to fly. Best to learn on. With the ducts, you can bump into a tree branch or a wall, and keep on going. Without ducts, you'll immediately crash. Notice I said wall?... That's because you can practice inside your house / apt. during the winter or when it's too darn hot in the heat of summer, or rainy. When you crash, and you will a lot, you'll hit the carpet, or crash from only a few feet up, leaving your almost always intact and ready to go again! Good experiences, right?! Lol 😉😎🤘 Next, I don't suggest you buy the DJI transmitter (remote). It's $300, most will report it to be only an ok transmitter, and it's very limiting. Not many features, and if you want to fly something besides a DJI based drone, you can't! If I were to start again, I'd probably buy the Radiomaster TX16S transmitter. So versatile, super popular and loved, reasonably priced at under $200, available on sale, and the DJI is always $300, and never on sale. Then, I'd get ELRS as my protocol (link) you fly with. Yes, it's the newest and greatest! Haven't got it myself yet, but looking hard at it. Heavily invested in Crossfire now. The best ELRS module, which pops into the back of that TX16S, is from Happymodel and it's about $38, is all! Cheap, but reliable, so many have said. Receivers are super inexpensive too! About $13 ! 👍 I got the lightest BNF digital whoop on the market - the BetaFPV 75X HD. It's very fun! It has a Naked Caddx Vista in it and the Nebula Nano V2 camera. Not the best camera, but don't fret, it's not the terrible V1 version, and the V2 improves image quality by 90%. It's 99% better than analog, so it's fine. I have a few of them and they work great...V2 only, not V1. That BetaFPV 75X HD only comes with the V2, and most all the V1 drones are sold out now. Great for flying inside and around your yard, or at your closest park. Super quiet and no one will complain = good experiences, right?! Lol 😉 I wouldn't buy a Rotor Riot drone. Too damn expensive and too big and too easy to get damaged when you crash, and we all crash a ton, especially when you are learning. Less weight equals less inertia, so less damage! It's all about learning on something durable, easy, and much less expensive. And that you can fly pretty much anywhere! That whoop might just end up being your favorite to fly even after you get 5 more drones! Whoops are a blast! My best buddy to fly with, and I, like the whoops and micro drones the best. We don't fly 4 inch and above because they are hard to find good places to fly because they need a ton of space, make a ton of noise, attracting complainers, and we don't think they are as fun to fly either. You can fly small drones almost anywhere! Easy fun! More durable. Best of luck! Happy New Year! 😎🤘 Feel free to reply if you have other questions...
Hang on lonely guy looking for attention... that is the selling point of this drone. Most FPV drones are either one or the other whereas this drone can switch between 4s, 5s & 6s due to how the PDB is designed.
The components you called esc’s on the arms don’t look like any esc’s I’ve seen, there’s three wires of the same size in between them and the stack. Why would you use such a massive wire for a signal cable?
Never heard about Rotor Riot before! Just searched about them and got to know that I already watched one of their videos and they have the same number of subscribers as you have! 2,35,000- As of 29 Dec, 2021 This drone made by them is so cool and amazing, but the packaging is not so cool though. Flies perfectly and looks really beautiful!! The 3 bladed propellers looks so amazing on pretty much every drone... Also want DJI, Autel, Skydio to make those different 3,4,5,6 and more bladed propellers! It will look awesome on those stable gps camera drones and the noises they make will also be different from the classic 2 bladed propellers. Ottawa is a really beautiful and *cold* place. The fields are barren and one can easily fly those huge 7" or bigger FPV drones there without disturbing anyone as noone is there! Its surprising for me to see such barren fields as in Indian fields (we call fields 'maidan' here) there are more than a thousand people in a field of circumference of 3 Kilometres! That is why , it is difficult to fly FPV race drones at such low height here :( Looking forward to know about other drones made by them!
Sweeeet Canadian Cold 🥶🥶. Keep it up there. I'm here in Richmond VA. 70 degree here today. Happy 🆕🆕 New year to you an family. Have heard anything about XO DRONE'S HERE IN THE US
That has 4in1 esc not on the arms.That looks like race wire on the arms. Im not just trying to prove you wrong in anyway,its a easy mistake to make. Happy New Year to you and family
@@grabejud yeah.. thats huge issue.. and if someone doesnt have a solder station and place to put in replacement f7 you have to send drone back and get a new one,.,. and wait who knows how much longer
Yikes...I've heard of Rotor Riot and been on their site looking at their products...I hope you get a reply to the flight controller issue. Will tell me if they stand behind their products/if I'll shop there in the future.
@@bushcrafter6416 No personal experience with Rotor Riot so I can't personally say but I can say with iFlight...they sent me the wrong Crystal Sky antenna, I brought it up with them and they then sent me the correct one with free shipping and threw in a bunch of free props for one of my drones without me even asking for anything.
Sweet review. But time to switch out to some real motors for a 7" get some 2807 1300kv motors for a 6s set up much better for 7" props I got 10 mins on a 1800mah 6s with 7x4x3 props
Hey Captain Drone! My name is Gage and I'm the customer support lead over at Rotor Riot. I'm so glad to hear that you really enjoyed the HD1-XR build you bought!
I'd like to cover a couple quick notes I took while watching the video-
The first is that yes, we don't worry as much for the presentation with the drone coming out of the box. Our reasoning is that they're freestyle drones, and they're made to be durable and bounce around when flying without issue, so being packed in with other hardware shouldn't be too bad. We pack it a little nicer for international packages that have to go overseas though, as those boxes can sometimes get a little more damaged during shipping. We are looking to get some foam fillers to put in the box around the arms / body to fit the frames, but our priority right now is just making sure all our builds are flying great out of the box.
For the ESCs that you see on the arms, those are actually just "race wire", basically a flat strip to extend the length of the motor wires. By default, all the motors we offer in our store aren't long enough to reach from the 7in arms to the 4-in-1 ESC (under the FC), so we use that race wire to extend the length, and hopefully also help protect the wire on the off chance the propeller gets bent downwards and would have struck the motor wire.
For the flight controller swap (the F4 vs the F7), that was a bit of a tough case we were put in. We recently had switched all of our builds over to the F7 flight controller and updated the listings, but after doing a LOT of testing with the new F7's we were using, we were getting a ton of vibrations when flying. We wanted to make sure the drone would fly as good as it can, so we did a quick swap over to the F4 FCs as those have been flying MUCH better with our HD1-XR frame and build. I've reached out to our warehouse manager, Tyler, to make sure we update all the listings as well, so thank you for pointing that out!
And finally, while we don't include an instruction sheet directly in the box, you may have noticed on the one arm that there is a tag with 2 signatures on it. That's our builder, and our Quality Control tester. If that QC tester said "GH" on it, that was me! :) On the other side of that tag, we have a QR code, which should direct you to our starter guide for all digital drones we offer. I've posted the link below if you'd like to look it over.
Overall, I loved the review and your thoughts on our builds! Please feel free to reach out to me directly if you have any future questions about our builds and I'd be glad to assist you! My email is gage@rotorriot.com
And here is the link to our starter guide that the QR code should take you to: rotorriotsupport.helpscoutdocs.com/article/53-rotor-riot-built-tuned-drone-quick-liftoff-guide
Hi Gage. This is Steve (AKA Captain Drone). Thanks for jumping in with the info. Right after I posted the video I took the tape off what I thought to be ESCs and saw the race wire (Duh!) and posted the correction in the video description. I was not aware the QR Code provided the info for beginners but now that I read the "super tiny faded" print, I see that it says "Please read the quick start guide by scanning the QR Code below"... how did I miss that :-)
I understand the F4 & F7 issue and a suggestion might be that if you don't change the info on the website, then perhaps include the explanation in the box with the drone.
Mine was built by "MM" and tested by what looks to be the letter "R". Overall I'm very happy with the performance of the drone & will use it in my summer RC Plane chase vids. Thanks Gage!
you should have Steve over the rotor riot factory, hes such a sweet guy it would be a great collab!
@@Krusty- I like the idea! I'll bring it up at our next meeting :)
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Yep, that paper idea for the FC swap is a great idea! I'll definitely pass that along to the team. And we'll make that font a little bigger for the QR code message. If you didn't see it and you're being particular about talking about the build, I wonder if others had the same problem.
Enjoy the drone and happy flying!
Hey I’m very new to all this stuff. If I call will someone walk me through on what I need to get me started?
I believe those are race wires on the arms since the motor wires are not long enough to reach the ESC. It looks like a T-Motor HD stack which has a 4 in 1 ESC.
Yep I think you're right
Crap! I think you may be correct! Duh!
I purchased the CL1 build kit. Beginner entry for building and flying. The build was easy and it flies amazingly. Love it!
Loved that intro landing (0:23)! 😎 made me chuckle. Great review…I have several of the 5” rotor riot HD1’s and they are well tuned. They could take a few pointers from iFlight on packaging (but honestly doesn’t bother me). Stay warm this winter. 🥶 🥶 🥶.
I flew a few Rotor Riot BNFs and yes, the packaging is meh, but the build quality and tuning always have been amazing.
Great review. I have zero experience in FPV. I tried building one 5 years ago, and failed , all the parts are in a bin. Then a couple months ago I found the Rotor Riot prebuilt starter kits. I bought the Le Drib 3in cinewoop starter kit. It was shipped to me in about 2 weeks. Like I said earlier, I have zero experience, and I could not get my kit to bind or even fly. I work all week, and only have the weekends to play around. I asked for help on the Facebook Rotor Riot community page ,and many people reached out to me, but Tyler from Rotor Riot saw my plea for help, and called me at home on a Saturday to get me flying. 10 mins later I was able to fly my drone. Rotor Riot customer service is awesome. I just purchased the Vision40. Hoping its here in about a week. They already sent me all the binding and flashing instructions. So this is a very daunting task for me, never flashed Betaflight, I don't even know what that means. If I did not believe rotor riot would help me through this binding process, I would not even bother. If I get my Vision40 and I'm flying it shortly after I get it, my next quad will be a 5inch Rotor Riot build, guarantied. Some people complain that their quads are a little overpriced, maybe for you guys that are electronics nerds, but for truck drivers like me, who don't have time tinker and solder and tune and troubleshoot and just want to fly, I more than happy to pay a couple extra bucks to have someone walk me through the process to get me flying, fast. Oh, And by the way, I have many hours on Velocidrone so I did not need a lot of time to learn to fly the real thing, sims to work for beginners.
That was a great video, great content. And thanks for getting out in the cold to give us something great to watch 😉
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great review Steve, image of flying video looks so smooth.
My men rolling with a lanyard! Nice video and the quad seems very good out of the box!
Another great video review by Captain Drone. Thank you, sir.
Thank you kindly
The problem with super thick arms is that in a severe enough crash, if the arms doesn't break it torques on the fuselage and usually the bottom plate is the one that gives out. If like most quads your electronics are mounted to the bottom plate, then changing out an arm becomes a lot more preferable :D
@@flyingwithtofu there is another bottom plate under the arms sandwiching it. That can't break easily
This is all new to me!!! Interesting cap! Learned a lot about you and FPV drones.
He's a good guy. Check out his video on the ATOMRC SEAGULL drone. I have it it's good to start out with.
I bought their Skyliner 5” and honestly, for the money, I was disappointed in the packaging as well. Not to mention, no protection other than a slim piece of electrical tape around the motor wires. At least Iflight uses flat plastic tubes to protect motor wires from prop strikes and they cost less. To their credit, the frame is tough as nails, but the arms are very wide and they act like wings and makes the drone “floaty”, which might be what they were going for considering Le Dribs flying style. Great review though, the arms are massive!
Hey dude! I'm the customer support guy at RR. Thanks for the feedback about the motor wire tape. We recently switched over to a similar tube setup for our builds, so any future builds shouldn't have that issue.
@@FlyingPenguinDrones Must have been very recent. I got my skylines less than a month ago...still has the electrical tape holding motor wires down. Didn't think anything of it since I use that on my builds.
@@fpvsmurf Honestly IDK anymore. They fired me back in February, so they might've cheaped out on parts and gone back to tape again.
Honestly I don't recommend them anymore. iFlight makes better buy-and-flies now.
@@FlyingPenguinDrones Sorry to hear but thanks for the info...
I don't think that I would ever buy one of these....But really enjoyed the content of the video. Thanks for all your devotion to the cause.
I enjoyed most how you can fly drones. I will need so much practice to become half as good as you can fly drones. Thank you for the review and awesome footage. 👍
Thank you. Since my flying is on TH-cam, I avoid the erratic style of flying that gives people headaches.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 that would be cool to see 😂
Happy New Year and all the best for 2022.🎉🥂
Great video.. this has me thinking about getting started in FPV.
You finally made a rotor riot video! I haven’t bought one yet but am hoping that some day I will be able to afford that comes ready to fly.
I just bought my 1st. They are well worth it. Some very minor complaints though.
Excellent Video and Excellent Flying! Thank You.
Great quads, I built mine with the Kakute F7 and iFlight 405. It flies fantastic, very smooth even with a 1600 4s and GP9. Nice vid!
Great video and it looks like a blast to fly. Some day!
"My spotter will keep them away".. 🤣🤣🤣 😉
need a spotter spotter ;)
😂
Great review as always! I have been looking at BNF 7” quads lately and this price makes it cheaper than most, if not all 7” “mainstream” quads.
Wow! Incredible smoothness....also helped by the DJI action2
Gidday captian, jeez you blew through the stop sign. hahaha 😎
Happy holidays to you hopefully that is my head that I had asked you about because I will be purchasing one if it’s on your website
It's easy to get into the fpv hobby but it's mentally difficult staying in the hobby. The learning curve is just too steep for some people. For me though, it's the one thing my soul has been craving. Flying always gave me a feeling of freedom from life, from my problems, emotions, and worries. I used to dream of flying as a kid and this is the one thing that's brought the magic back into my life.
Well said!
Can you please post the Betaflight CLI dump for your flight controller?
Good price on the VR-Wave lens, my Goggles RE lens cost over $100 (lens from DJI were/are junk), I still play with the RE to keep the batteries good
I bought the Skyeliner HD from rotor riot . It's very smooth and it's Unbreakable. I love this so much I bought a second one just for the hell of it. And I'm fixing to buy a 7-inch in the near future
Their drones are pretty good.
i dont know if this would appeal to everyone but eyecare when flying would be a video i'd click on, not so much with fpv but camera drones. Well i watch all CDs videos, i think i can even tell how happy he is through the montage
Merry Christmas and Happy New year to all!
Happy New Year
Powerful drone .. i can feel it even from the video ! Awesome flight too 👏🏻
The speed with the 6S battery is dope!! By the way, Happy New Year Captain!
Happy New Year
Esc's on the arms might be old school, but seems smart to me. Especially since I burned one on the Nazgul, and had to replace the whole board..
Enjoyed watching. ""Above normal"" in the 70° 's here Captain, I feel for you.
Very good review as always! Thank you for your effort 👍👍👍👍
Awsome flight Steve that beast looks really good thanks for the review
Thanks for watching!
The Tanq looks the coolest 😎
Looks like it's super smooth
I bought a cinewhoop from Rotor Riot and after one soft landing the buzzer fell out of the drone and disconnected, it flew really well but I thought the build was not very sturdy
Hey Michael! I'm sorry to hear about that buzzer issue. Did we build your drone with the buzzer installed? We typically don't offer buzzer installs, which is why I ask.
@@FlyingPenguinDrones yes. Rotor riot did
@@michaelripple8371 Gotcha. I'm the customer support lead at RR and I try to make sure everyone's builds are working as expected. Sorry to hear about that issue! If it happens again please let me know and we can try to work out a fix for you.
That was an awesome video Captain
Hey,hey what about the mah of the batt? Wake-up Cap rating on mah of the.batt can make a big difference in weight!
Not that Capt Drone needs validation ..... Steve - you are so "right" about the HD1-XR7. I ordered one shortly after your review, and have flown it many times -- but, today was the first time I flew it with a 4S battery, IT FLIES SO MUCH BETTER ON 4S. I know it has "magic tuning" that makes automatic adjustments between 6S and 4S - but the change in maneuverability (nimbleness) was simply awesome. I assume it is the lighter weight of the 4S - but, whatever the reason -- CAPT DRONE's observations are GOLDEN!!!!!
Thank you! This Rotor Riot drone is the smallest size & most nimble 7" drone I own, and I have plenty. It is certainly one I use often.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Yes, nimble. Like you, I also have the Chimera7 (albeit I think 2x7" drones is sufficient, so I would not use the modifier "plenty" to describe my 7" size drones. smile).
hello i just wanted to ask, which drone do u think i should go for?? Flyhal Fx1 or F11S or the Holy Stone HS720E??
Nice video, it would be nice to see it compared side by side a typical 5in. I enjoy your lighter drone videos.
As a clarification, you're actually a qallunaat of the south (nanook is polar bear and the fact you have trees means you are in the south), but you did properly use of iglu even though you likely meant igluvijaq for snowhouse.
Great review Steve. Yep Rotor Riot defenitly know how to tune their Quads 🤘👍 Great Flying
Hello Captain Drone have you reviewed JJRC X 19 PRO with Obstacle Avoidance as I'm looking to buy it.
Probably not
If I had to guess they must have a dynamic profile for 4 & 6S with a larger motor output / throttle limit for 6S - that KV and 6S on 7" should really be insanity. That being said those motors are absolutely *tiny* for what most fly on 7". I really think that most people are running ~2806.5 or maybe 2507 for that size for optimal wind handling and overall performance. You do pay a weight and flight time penalty for that though, of course.
The starter packages look really attractive.
Do you water proof your boards before you fly in the snow? If you don't, have you had any instances if you crash that the snow shorts your drone?
In the old days I used to, but I have not done that in 4 years and have had zero problems. Snow is cold and in a solid format, so the trick is to pick up your drone after it lands in the snow and unplug the battery (the VTX is the hottest part). Blow out the snow and you're ready to fly again.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Thanks for the quick reply. It just seems to be a pain in the butt to do this. I was about to tear my drone down too. I was thinking exactly what you said. Its like 10 degrees where I live today. Snow isn't melting anytime soon.
What would it take to allow this drone to have the same flight time as a DJI FPV with equal performance as the DJI drone?
Yikes? That would be impossible. You see the DJI FPV drone is not a true FPV drone, it is a hybrid between a camera drone & FPV drone. This is why it is fragile and has batteries that are crazy expensive. In the real FPV hobby, drones are made out of carbon fiber and you can use any battery you wish and any controller you wish and do things that are not possible with the DJI FPV drone, and the reverse is true for the DJI FPV drone…. With that drone you can do things that are not possible on a normal FPV hobby drone.
Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
Stay Safe
Dji fpv drone is absolutely shit for learning fpv freestyle.
@@MrHotjag It has its place… in learning basic flight controls I think. Also learning line of sight nose in, having the panic button can save from tons of crashes.
Great video. I'm little disappointed by Rotor Riot and their customers services also.
I just bought a 5" cinewhoop. In description it listed HB F7 fc but I received a t-motor stack f4 hd version 😕. The excuse is they couldn't get the correct fly settings with the F7. So they just gave me 10% discount on their store.
Very Interesting... So that explains the change in my Flight Controller as well. Hmmm..... One would think they would update their website with the correct info when making such changes.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Kinda bait and switch, don't you think?! How much effort could it be to change that little bit of text. I could do that on my website in less than 5 minutes. 😳🙄
@@KOrnhOliO1 Hey Sco0t, we have a lotttt of listings to update, and occasionally one of them slips by us without getting updated. We're always updating our builds to make sure they are the best they can be, but we're human and sometimes make mistakes. We always try to make it up to the customers though!
Wow very nice. Was thinking about the DJI FPV. But damn that drone seems like more bang for your buck , especially since I fly analog 4s . The only thing holding me back is my 62 year old eye sight. I’d have to have lenses cut . Ug.
The VR Wave lenses I use are around $100 when not on sale. You just input your prescription on their website and the price is shown.
@CAPTAIN DRONE Think I might take the plung in the near future. Love FPVing my 5" Quadcopters but love the range and flight time of my Air2s. Wish DJI would link up the Goggles.
Merry Christmas Steve, hope you and your family 👪 have a a good one ,
Happy new year
Thanks for an awesome video captain Steve! I just bought the tmotor ft5 mk11 6s for %400.00 u.s dollhairs. I recommend picking one of the up the components and tune for a BNF are amazing!!! I'd love to see a review from you! I have 5 BNF and this one really gets up a goes even more then my Nasgul 5 surprisingly anyway cheers you rock captain Steve 👍
Dollhairs 🤣🤣🤣 is that the new currency 🤣🤣🤣
@@theviewchaser6718 Yup, when we were 8 years old! Lol 🤪🙄
Who was flying the other quad over your right shoulder at 7:34?!!
That was a DJI FPV Drone flown by someone about half a KM away who was checking out what I was doing.
Great video, need a tarp for landings
At the beginning of the video you said the flight time won't be great, but at the end it flies more than any 5'' drone
Yup, I was totally wrong.
Which would you recommend - Rotor Riot HD1-XR7 or Chimera 7 Pro ?
Two very different items. The Rotor Riot quad is small in size compared to the iFlight Chimera.
Hi
Have you try it with a Li-ion battery like Iflight Fullsend INH21700-40T 6s 4000mAh, to see if it flies well and for how long .
Not so far. It is cold here so I only took it out the one day.
I'm not opposed to using recyclable (truly recyclable) packaging, but it's not that expensive to have pressed-paper package inserts made (think egg cartons.
I fly 7 inch quads now exclusively, for freestyle, Cinema, and even flying at Drift Car racing events at speedways.
They are fast, quiet, and stable.
I think your R-Line battery is likely a 130c, whereas that GNB might have been lower. That difference, plus the extra weight, and the cold air may have affected that GNB negatively more than the R-Line.
I fly R-Line 3.0 and 4.0 versions mostly now, because they don't sag like all of the other brands I try from time to time, and their behaviors are super reliably consistent in comparison.
Thanks for this fantastic review, Cap! I really enjoyed it, and feel you covered it in really good depth.
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year
I have been thinking about getting into the fpv flying a while, this might just make me pull the trigger. great video!
Good review Steve
Thanks for the great content man
Hello sir great review! Im currently ordering a 5 inch drone from them to be shipped to Canada. The problem is as soon as I add batteries to my shopping list, it wont ship. Is this a Rotor Riot thing or a shipping batteries across the border thing? Just wondering if you run into similar issues getting batteries. Any advice would be appreciated Thanks.
Must be a ROTOR RIOT thing. You see in the USA, the customs folk don't like LIPO batteries coming into the country that exceed two batteries, so perhaps the ROTOR RIOT folk think Canada is the same way. Just do like the rest of Canadians and buy your batteries off of AMAZON Canada.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Thanks
Do these come with cameras an fpv goggles?
They come with whatever you order
My betaflight default has less vibration than this and you call it tuned and epic stable build?
I’m new to Fpv and was wondering if I could buy the DJI goggles v2, the original controller, and for example this drone. Would I be able to bind all these together and get them to fly? Would that be the best option? Thanks. Looking forward to more videos on your channel!
If you want a digital system you should go for the hd1. You can bind the goggles and transmitter to it or any thing with a dji air unit.
@@cooperwoodruff5654 thanks. Is is difficult to bind?
@@SkyPathProductions not really you just need to hold the bind buttons. If you bundle the transmitter and goggles with the hd1 they should come pre bound
SKYPATH DRONES. If you buy everything from ROTOR RIOT, then everything should be setup and bound together. If you buy everything separate on your own, then in your V2 goggles you have to go to the ABOUT screen and change the transmission so that it works with FPV drones, then shut down goggles and power back on and you'll be able to connect to the digital FPV Drone hobby. As for binding everything, it is super simple. You can watch my vid entitled FPV FOR BEGINNERS EPISODE 10 for pointers on binding and BETAFLIGHT switch setup.
@@SkyPathProductions piece of cake 🍰 ! Plus, no way you have to buy a Rotor Riot drone. If I were you, I'd buy a very small drone or a whoop. There's a big learning curve for flying FPV. It takes quite a bit of practice. I've been flying FPV for over 6 years now, and I receive no gain depending on what you buy. So, if I were to start again, I'd go DJI digital and get the V2 goggles. I own them myself. Get the DJI upgraded foam, because they don't fit your face worth a damn! Upgraded foam does though! $15 - order it with your V2 Goggles, because the foam they come with is worthless! Seriously.
I'd get a good FPV simulator (watch TH-cam videos to choose one) and practice flying on the computer before flying a real FPV drone. It takes time to get the hang of it. Practice in Acro mode - that's fully manual mode. We all fly in that mode so we have complete control of the drone. Flying in any other mode and the automatic features try to help you out, but battle you for control. Plus, you can get bad habits from using those modes.
After you get good in the simulator, flying in Acro mode, get yourself a whoop! Palm of the hand sized whoops are super fun to fly, and because they are so lightweight, they have very little inertia to damage themselves when you crash. Big bonus! Lol Just understand, you will crash constantly at first... So, having a drone that will not get damaged as easily is essential to not getting totally bummed out when you crash and break a larger drone... Making it not fly anymore, and you having to figure out how to fix it, when you are new to the hobby. And you will do that... We all have! You want your first experiences to be positive, right? 👍
So, less chance of breakage equals a more positive experience! And, whoops are probably the easiest to fly. Best to learn on. With the ducts, you can bump into a tree branch or a wall, and keep on going. Without ducts, you'll immediately crash.
Notice I said wall?... That's because you can practice inside your house / apt. during the winter or when it's too darn hot in the heat of summer, or rainy. When you crash, and you will a lot, you'll hit the carpet, or crash from only a few feet up, leaving your almost always intact and ready to go again! Good experiences, right?! Lol 😉😎🤘
Next, I don't suggest you buy the DJI transmitter (remote). It's $300, most will report it to be only an ok transmitter, and it's very limiting. Not many features, and if you want to fly something besides a DJI based drone, you can't! If I were to start again, I'd probably buy the Radiomaster TX16S transmitter. So versatile, super popular and loved, reasonably priced at under $200, available on sale, and the DJI is always $300, and never on sale. Then, I'd get ELRS as my protocol (link) you fly with. Yes, it's the newest and greatest! Haven't got it myself yet, but looking hard at it. Heavily invested in Crossfire now. The best ELRS module, which pops into the back of that TX16S, is from Happymodel and it's about $38, is all! Cheap, but reliable, so many have said. Receivers are super inexpensive too! About $13 ! 👍
I got the lightest BNF digital whoop on the market - the BetaFPV 75X HD. It's very fun! It has a Naked Caddx Vista in it and the Nebula Nano V2 camera. Not the best camera, but don't fret, it's not the terrible V1 version, and the V2 improves image quality by 90%. It's 99% better than analog, so it's fine. I have a few of them and they work great...V2 only, not V1. That BetaFPV 75X HD only comes with the V2, and most all the V1 drones are sold out now. Great for flying inside and around your yard, or at your closest park. Super quiet and no one will complain = good experiences, right?! Lol 😉
I wouldn't buy a Rotor Riot drone. Too damn expensive and too big and too easy to get damaged when you crash, and we all crash a ton, especially when you are learning. Less weight equals less inertia, so less damage! It's all about learning on something durable, easy, and much less expensive. And that you can fly pretty much anywhere! That whoop might just end up being your favorite to fly even after you get 5 more drones! Whoops are a blast! My best buddy to fly with, and I, like the whoops and micro drones the best. We don't fly 4 inch and above because they are hard to find good places to fly because they need a ton of space, make a ton of noise, attracting complainers, and we don't think they are as fun to fly either. You can fly small drones almost anywhere! Easy fun! More durable. Best of luck! Happy New Year! 😎🤘
Feel free to reply if you have other questions...
Jumping from 4S to 6S wasn't exactly fair now was it.
Hang on lonely guy looking for attention... that is the selling point of this drone. Most FPV drones are either one or the other whereas this drone can switch between 4s, 5s & 6s due to how the PDB is designed.
Im starting off with a 4Inch custom build drone (IM building and soldering everythign myself heheheh)
That’s race wire on the arms not single ESC’s
Your XT60 leads to the 4in1 ESC
You're probably correct. My old brain thought I was looking at ESCs on the arms. I should have taken the tape off to check.
The components you called esc’s on the arms don’t look like any esc’s I’ve seen, there’s three wires of the same size in between them and the stack. Why would you use such a massive wire for a signal cable?
Correct, check the video description for your answer as well as the first comment under this video.
Yeah that's a lovely bit of kit👌
You made that look sooo easy.
Happy New year in advance 🎊
Never heard about Rotor Riot before!
Just searched about them and got to know that I already watched one of their videos and they have the same number of subscribers as you have!
2,35,000- As of 29 Dec, 2021
This drone made by them is so cool and amazing, but the packaging is not so cool though.
Flies perfectly and looks really beautiful!!
The 3 bladed propellers looks so amazing on pretty much every drone...
Also want DJI, Autel, Skydio to make those different 3,4,5,6 and more bladed propellers!
It will look awesome on those stable gps camera drones and the noises they make will also be different from the classic 2 bladed propellers.
Ottawa is a really beautiful and *cold* place.
The fields are barren and one can easily fly those huge 7" or bigger FPV drones there without disturbing anyone as noone is there!
Its surprising for me to see such barren fields as in Indian fields (we call fields 'maidan' here) there are more than a thousand people in a field of circumference of 3 Kilometres!
That is why , it is difficult to fly FPV race drones at such low height here :(
Looking forward to know about other drones made by them!
Rotor riot conformal coat everything?
My rekonfpv doesn't look conformal coated at all.
Come on man... ROTOR RIOT. Comen in video CAPTAIN DRONE
How does it compare to the recon 7 pro
This is more FREESTYLE where the REKON 7 PRO is more LONG RANGE
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 nice conservative answer great video
woow its super cool drone good news captain my emax is fix now
Sweeeet Canadian Cold 🥶🥶. Keep it up there. I'm here in Richmond VA. 70 degree here today. Happy 🆕🆕 New year to you an family. Have heard anything about XO DRONE'S HERE IN THE US
Happy new year!!
They are great guys IMO.
How does this compare to the Diatone f7
I have not tried the Diatone so can't say
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 what is the main advantage of a 7" compared to a 5". Is it overall efficiency when it comes to long distance flights?
@@ChrisParayno Only advantage is lift capability
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 thanks. keep up the awesome work!
Great video 💯 ❤ 🙏👊🎄
You would think (correct me if im wrong) bigger battery/more power = faster? but you're saying this isn't the case?
It felt heavier in flight. Still speed and power, just a bit heavier.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 good to know.
No doubt it is a very well balanced nice flyer with good run time’s. Looks like I will have to add one to the collection.
Do the DJI goggles have to be used to fly this???? Can it be flown line of sight? Thanks in advance. Mike
You can certain fly line of sight, but if you have no hand/eye coordination, it is not going to end up pretty.
Rotor riot set the tune to limit throttle with change in batteries
Great video - thank you
Have fun enjoy the week
You broke the law! I clearly saw you blow right through a stop sign while flying the 6s battery!! :) (Kidding)
Very quiet really nice!
Is there a rear gps mount for this frame?
I don’t think this frame exists anymore as the video is from a few years ago and frames change often.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 ok
That has 4in1 esc not on the arms.That looks like race wire on the arms.
Im not just trying to prove you wrong in anyway,its a easy mistake to make.
Happy New Year to you and family
yeah it has a 4in1 esc.. probably using racewire so if you have to change motor its easy and quick
it is a race wire probably 20-30mm. im more concern about them sending him an F4 fc when he ordered F7, and thats a lot of difference in processing
Could be... I should have pulled off the tape to check to be 100% certain.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 yep there race wires capt easy mistake great vid with the fc just plug in to betaflight it will tell you f4 or f7 id bet its a f7
@@grabejud yeah.. thats huge issue.. and if someone doesnt have a solder station and place to put in replacement f7 you have to send drone back and get a new one,.,. and wait who knows how much longer
Yikes...I've heard of Rotor Riot and been on their site looking at their products...I hope you get a reply to the flight controller issue. Will tell me if they stand behind their products/if I'll shop there in the future.
Yeah good luck getting service from rotor riot, Might do it only because it's Caption Drone!!!
Better off, Stay away!!! Rotor riot is overpriced and over rated.
@@bushcrafter6416 No personal experience with Rotor Riot so I can't personally say but I can say with iFlight...they sent me the wrong Crystal Sky antenna, I brought it up with them and they then sent me the correct one with free shipping and threw in a bunch of free props for one of my drones without me even asking for anything.
@@bushcrafter6416 I definitely agree!!
@@ruirodrigues9122 I also have good expierence with Iflight...
class review sir.
Thank you!
Sweet review. But time to switch out to some real motors for a 7" get some 2807 1300kv motors for a 6s set up much better for 7" props I got 10 mins on a 1800mah 6s with 7x4x3 props
Smooth flying
What drone can last above 10 minutes and has a camera
In the FPV Hobby... plenty and I have shown them on my channel.
In the Camera Drone Hobby... Hundreds and I have shown them on my channel.
Are they ice fishing yet? 😉
Yes, just starting.