The SEALs have been on a downward spiral even since Robert’s Ridge. The Army also has more seasoned NCOs that have the experience to deal with these situations and are more focused on the team instead of just individual glory.
I can kinda agree with that, but think of all of the people who volunteer and can’t hack it. Or think of guys that got drafted for WW2, Korea, or Vietnam that went on to be dependable and hard charging. Sometimes you just can’t tell about someone until the metal hits the meat.
well in a real war you need to drag people out, just look at what Ukraine is doing. If they do not drag people out they would not have an army as most of the volunteers are gone now So far we have had the luxury is just being able to get by with volunteers and limited drafts not complete mobilization drafts
I have followed this story for a while and to get the full context of what happened there are 3 books that cover this story. Eddie Gallagher wrote a book speaking from his side of the story, a reporter wrote a book called Alpha which speaks form the whole platoon sides and also has a lot of research that covers a lot of other issues that were happening. He has a lot of texts, military records, etc. for this book. And the final book is called Code over Country which was written by another reporter that has a lot of research, data, and evidence to support what he is writing. This book covers the history of the Navy Seals, particularly Team 6 but also covers the Eddie Gallagher story
Fact is, no matter how hard some people try, not everyone has a likeable personality. The best thing to do is keep it professional at all times. The different between SF guys and SEALS, SF guys are a little older, thus making them more mature. When I went through the "Q," back in the late 1990s, by the time someone applied to go SF, they had already been in for a few of years. On the other hand, BUD guys for the most part were new to the Navy.
This is irrelevant straight up. as an enlisted guy, youre in the navy for bootcamp, buds prep, BO(buds orientation) before you even step foot into day 1 of 1st phase of bud/s. The process works, the teams know what they need. Majority of purely unwanted guys get weeded out before day 1 of bud/s. Then you have bud/s which nowadays which is further under even more of a microscope for *individuals* with technology available nowadays. No military Special operations Selection program is perfect but bud/s is the closest it gets to it as humanly possible. a few weasels will ALWAYS find their way through. My brother is an active seal. after graduating seal medic school in his 1st platoon, he then had to go to 18D (as all seal medics are required to do), he said he saw the same timid/afraid of whats coming next look in all the other branches there (battallion, SF, etc) that beginning of bud/s students have before the ocean/beach does its work and youre left with a bunch of dudes who just dont give a fuck. He'd rather work with the bottom 25% of team guys than the top 25% from anywhere else - he's been there done it. You will have bad apples in all SOF units and it doesn't come from prior experience it comes from who they are. BUD/S and SQT does a great job of filtering this and these cases are few and far between among active guys. O's and enlisted go through bud/s together which creates a different dynamic. The seal teams are more free thinking/spirited by nature. leadership is leadership, your head shed is either great or not great, youre always going to have O's that are hated, senior enlisted etc (and who knows what gallagher really did beforehand leading up to deployment that wasnt really touched on). Respect for serving always, this wasnt intended as hate or who's dicks bigger but just had to give some current context as to why none of that means anything
Jay, why not talk about the toxic culture in SF that led to sex trafficking and drug trafficking. Seems like something more important, and also it’s part of your own community.
Jay uh had a bad experience a seal showed his old lady what a real man can do that's why he hates them so much I'm a marine but I'll call it how I see it.
@@RattlerNxt You are absolutely right about Eddie. I don’t support his side of the story at all. In regard to the comment, I am referring to Jay constantly firing shots at a community for being “toxic” yet he never calls out the mistakes of his own community. If his goal was cleaning up flaws or corruption he should start with that, and I would fully support him. Unfortunately, I think he just wants clicks.
@@Pugsley262 I can’t comment. I think I only started listening a few weeks back. We have our own issues. Like the guys at Bragg. The dudes who tried to pull a coup on VZ. Others. I mean I can talk about SFs toxic culture all day long. But what he said about Eddie not taking responsibility for his unit or his actions, that’s true regardless of if it’s a deal team or an sf team. And the sf stuff rarely gets national news like Eddie got.
Yup E5 depending on your rate and you as an individual will determine if you are respected by the division or not. The navy doesn’t care about rank structure as much as the rest of the military branches. E6 and up obviously respected but anything below E6 it really doesn’t matter. Especially on the boat.
@@payattention5157 Navy E-4 is called a 'Petty Officer.' In the US Army an E-4 is a Specialist and that's not that big of deal. It's not until an E-4 shows leadership potential and becomes a Corporal that rank become significant. The Specialists that think they're a mafia are short-term mafia seeing they can't do a career as a Specialist.
@@bruteforce1996 same bullshit everywhere. Doesn't matter what branch you're in. Jay either gave into the mob or seriously didn't give a fuck about what his team thought of him for being a strict leader. The more I hear Eddie's story the more I can relate to the petty SOF bullshit. or maybe Army SF is just that chill and everyone gets along on team.
@@--4606kinda reminds me of law enforcement and the medical field along with prison where if someone in a group has an issue then that whole group wants smoke
I appreciate your point about Eddie Gallagher and how he should have nipped the situation in the bud. However, there could be other factors at play. Speaking from my experience as an NCO in the Army, I can tell you that you can be undermined by anyone-sometimes even by your own leadership-and often nothing will be done about it. Now, I don’t know much about the SEAL culture or how easy it is to request to be moved out of a platoon-whether it's straightforward or more complex. But one thing I do know, whether in the military or the civilian world, is that without the backing of your senior leadership, it’s extremely difficult to get things done, move people out of an organization, or even get rid of people who aren’t the right fit or are causing issues.
Based on how he talks about the theft accusations, I'm given the impression there's a good chance he was taking those red bulls and power bars from his seals. Which kinda also implies there was a good bit of that "I'm the senior" mentality, which usually is accompanied by taking advantage of your juniors. I don't know anything for sure; just the impression I get.
Jay I agree with you. Leadership should have dealt with those bad eggs from the start especially in a environment that they were in. You can't afford that drama because it could cost lives. Thanks for the content.
Never special ops, but former 11B platoon sergeant here. During OIF3, I was a Platoon Leader as an E6. Yeah, a PL. Based on two decades of Army combat arms service, and dealing with branch transfers during GWOT (Navy, Air Force, Marines) no other service teaches brass tacks leadership better than the Army. The prior USMC especially, were good at individual tasks and tactics, Army-style leadership? Not so much. How do you spell “Joint” as in joint operations? A-R-M-Y Army teachers leadership BEFORE soldiers become NCO’s and stresses that to be a good leader you must be a good follower first. Understand the leader’s intent. I think the Army is the only service that does it that early and to that extent Admittedly, I served in regular infantry units, so maybe it’s different in special forces type units. But in the regular combat arms, we were trained early as junior NCOs how to deal with (and rehabilitate if possible) toxic subordinates. I don’t think that’s taught in the other branches as early and as thoroughly as it is in the Army
Thank You for you biased opinion. I served in both the Marine Corps and the Army, so I have an inside view of both. You will disagree but the Marine Corps does it better, period. As for Special Ops units, I was a part of that as well and they are on a different elevated level.
@@kellygarbiso9945 to be candid, I did state my biases up front and the limited relevance of my experience (regular Infantry, Army service only). I’m not going to rebut your conclusions based on your own experience, which also includes special operations where mine does not. I would say that given the discussion in the video, the Chief makes an observation that I think is relevant to my comment. The junior teammates he had problems with undermining his leadership were new and had not deployed before. Even though they were his subordinates, they were still NCOs right? I get that rank distinctions don’t mean the same in special operations as they do in line units, different culture. But as our Team Sergeant host noted, that sort of behavior is not something he would have encountered among 18 series NCOs on a SF team. I wouldn’t expect that type of thing from 11 series junior NCOs in a regular platoon either.I think there’s a reason for that-the reason being how leadership is taught early in the Army. Not trying to change your mind, just clarifying my biased and irrelevant opinion lol. Cheers.
Something that not alot are thinking of during this interview is Gallagher had finished up answering to charges. Was he being 100% truthful? Probably just saying what he thought was best to make himself appear as a victim?
He’s responsible for the fact that three of his guys had low moral character? How? You ever been in the military? Maybe you should listen to his interview with Shawn Ryan first before having an opinion on him. And for the people who commented: the fuck is jocko? A loser with a big ego who loves to run his mouth like he’s a something. He has no moral compass.
Any dude in a combat job/mos is wishing for the chance to get atleast one body on their count. Its what they trained us for. Our whole purpose in the military.
I'm not sure who to believe in this situation, but him taking a pic with the dead Isis fighter like it was a trophy pic was not a good look. Hard to judge the bro since there are few who have had the experiences hes had
As the leader of that platoon he should have shut that crap down. The other teammates should have had his back. Senior Chief should have stepped up and squared those three away. I completely agree.
Read David Philip's book Alpha: Eddie Gallagher and the War for the Soul of the Navy Seals. The issue to me isn't that he killed a POW (the Iraqi army would have done worse to him) but that civilians were murdered by this guy and he put his men in harms way for no good reason other than to play sniper. This is not a good dude.
I don’t believe that, those guys were PROVEN liars in court they have no credibility, that’s why he wasn’t charged with killing civilians, it’s a tough job he’s there to fight and kill ISIS, I’m not sure you understand the evil shit ISIS did, they have to take it to the enemy the way he has been through the whole GWAT.
NGL Eddie played this really smart. He turned it into a generational war and hammered home all the stereotypes about kids and kept harping on them. That alone shut down a lot of folks critical thinking real quick and then anybody with some age on them, or carrying a superiority complex immediately sees this as a culture war thing, the rest of the platoon just not having it what it takes but Eddie does. And then people connect with that i’ve got what it takes, but they don’t attitude. If SEAL & poor me victim narrative wasn’t attached to his name so strongly then people would be looking at his command and performance failures and drug addiction in a hell of a lot different light.
It works. I'm ex Australian infantry and shit birds get called out all the time when in battalion. We even had Friday night fight nights were shit cunts were called out by amateur boxers in the unit 😄
Agreed!. It’s a different attitude towards leadership. I was enlisted Navy and then Marines. Weak team leaders in a platoon affect the rest of the guys. Trying to manage them instead. Chief Gallagher got stuck with a group of unprofessional dudes that represent a lot of this generation’s attitude. Thanks for the content!.- enjoyed the episode.
I think it's kind of a different when these probably are happening in a war zone. Especially a crazy deployment like they were on. They have a lot of other things to worry about. So I could see how these issues could go by.
I remember the first news articles when Gallagher was arrested. One of the sites posted the charging documents. There were steroids found in his sleeping area and he was charged with possession(?)...if my memory is correct. If he was using steroids, it could lend credence to the stories of him being wild and out there.
shut the F up dude. all the ODA guys, CAG guys, DEVGRU guys were juicing up over seas. Ranger Battalion guys were probably the most juiced out gorillas during deployment. funny thing is no one cares about steroid use. leadership did not care, as long as you go out there and kick some ass.
Why? They are common among SOF. They are going to war, not playing sports, so every advantage helps. Do you have a problem with amphetamine use while deployed?
Eddie is the type of Plt Sgt to give Marines wet dreams by guaranteeing them combat. Those are the type of men we looked up to when being a young guy going up in the ranks. Those seals had blue falcon all over them.
@@Charlie-fu3ge he can say whatever he likes because last time I checked America is a free country and has something called freedom of speech. Or do you not respect the first amendment your forefathers gave you and men in the military fought and died for you to have? There is a reason it is the first of the amendments. Buy yourself a copy of the constitution and read it.
I recommend you read his book or listen to shawn ryan podcast. A lot more goes into it than this and he definently tried to squash it way earlier however they were going behind his back. So its not like they were talking shit to his face.
Also was trained in combat triage by SEAL. Absolute great dude! But there are those who are like, just jump through the hoops, i was like are you kidding
Its very hard to discipline dirtbags. I remember an E3 that just would not conform to Navy standards. The command tried everything with this kid, and everything failed. I will say this about the E7s and above. Prior to about 2008 the chiefs had a huge amount of influence. It was the chiefs saying to the divo " Sir, everything is accomplished, I am letting non-duty folks go for the day." Something happened to where the influence became non existant. I will say the culture inside the teams is not as mature as an ODA/MARSOC team is. When I screened for DEVGRU in the summer of 2007 as an enabler, you could definitely feel and see the culture behind the fenceline.
It is interesting to hear from the inside. I follow some seals on Twitter and some call EG a war criminal and others say he is a hero who was wrongfully accused. I read EG's book and listened to the evidence in the case. It was not open and shut like the Navy brass tried to make it out to be.
@@JW-bu8bn I agree with President Trump by giving EG benefit of the doubt when he's done a lot of service for this country in very dangerous places. A great personal and physical cost to himself.
I dig the interviews on this channel but the 20/20 hindsight certitude that comes in these solo videos is not my cup of tea. It’s a pet peeve of mine with everyone not just here. I find it annoying when someone feels comfortable ripping someone else with limited information. Perhaps Eddie should be getting ripped even harder. I’m not saying he shouldn’t but I’m not saying he should. There’s so much missing information in his interview to get a clear enough picture for a harsh criticism or defense imo.
I think the problem with the SEAL teams is much like the problem probably with 18X is that they come directly off of the streets. No prior Military experience. No prior crappy job in the fleet with no maturity. On top of that the toxicity from the get go in BUD/s. It’s not really taught to be a team even though it’s a team based selection. Just my thoughts.
The truth with the Eddie G situation lies somewhere in the middle. He did some shady shit and was a poor leader but didn't deserve the treatment he got.
I remember when my team Sergeant got my packet being the new guy he got me alone with him broke it down to me. People don’t understand what you have in your packet will follow you. They’re gonna get your packet. They’re gonna see who you are my team Sergeant good man good friend he kept it simple with me. Tell me is what you do here from now on this is a new start for you. We had a long talk and he squared me away.
I’m absolutely not buying Gallagher’s story 1) there have been other accusations. Patterns of them 2) he’s the tiresome kind of unhinged crazy, not the enjoyable kind
Totally agree with you, In the 82 nd bad seeds were dealt with by buck Sgts, then platoon leader, once it got to top, they would disappear ! Mud ducks don’t belong
The saw the documentary on Apple TV about Eddie. At first I thought maybe this guy is just old school and doesn’t want to expand his emotional intelligence to be able to communicate better with the new wave of seals. That wasn’t the case. Those younger guys he was in charge of straight up lying and commit perjury in court. They had a scheme and they were going to go all the way with it. It finally took one dude to admit that what they were doing was wrong.
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This is a perfect example of why letting regular guys walk of the street and join the seals why its wrong. And why how the army does it or used toom making a guy be 2 years in and hopefully seen combat before. Before joining a sf group is a good idea. I know the 18x is a thing but shouldn't be. There should be 2 years experience before being eligible for any sf group.
Why? Cus either they were producing the stats NCO wanted i.e. bodies so they let em be same thing w/all the covers ups that were turned into movies. Cris Kyle for all he accomplished he left this world looking like a habitual liar, read his book & then what he did to Ventura & was a mass murderer to boot who they NCO covered up for. Then the Lone Runner turns out he never fired a shot & ran when things got hairy on his 1st deployment then lied saying they're all dead but in reality when in they recovered the bodies 10 days later, iirc Dietz looked like he'd been dead for 24hr & was down to his pistol. The cover ups only happen from the top down, same w/dude who allegedly killed UBL. Ppl in the community been speaking out.
This dude is a scuuumbag. You need to hear the other guys side of the story. Eddie has the advantage of having all the media attention.. but he was NOT the good guy in this situation. Plain and simple. He is smearing these guys for trying to do the right thing.
If any of the crap they charged him with had an ounce of truth, he would be in a military prison for life. They only thing they got him for was a picture with a dead ISIS fighter. NCIS was pushing hard to put him away. You might want to look into what happened on the ground during the deployment, what happened post deployment, during the investigation/incarceration, and after before you go spouting stupid crap you just heard and believe.
Lets do a play by play of this video right quick. First off I know you cant just kick people off your team now because of the manning crisis and I know you are aware of this so stop acting like you would have these dudes kicked to the bteam pronto, takes loads of paperwork and time to accomplish this. Next, stop trying to assimilate to the seal teams, your a green beret and your not even a combat diver so you have zero ground to stand on to even talk about the teams or try to. Next, leading a ODA into war is not anything like leading them into some Joint training exchange in Jordan. As a team sgt or a senior on a team you have zero power now, SGM will tell you whats up , again you cant kick anyone off a team immediately now so stop trying to make yourself relevant to anything that happened to Eddy. Also, slanging a SF prep program in a video designed for clout using a highly visible seal is pitiful. As a green beret i am embarrassed of this video especially using a man that was found innocent in the court of law over a NSW witch hunt. Next, no one cares about your opinion or “your leadership skills” stick to talking about 3rd groups prostitution rings or something green beret related. 👌🏻
@@bluewave2024 yes instead of criticizing his leadership how about focus on the fact some unscrupulous people lied to possibly get him locked up for life, and the NCIS raided his home and dragged his kids out at gunpoint!
Dude it makes no sense. If 3 dudes were so toxic how come no one else corroborated these toxic guys. He had option to deal with them as you mentioned. He's lying to cover for his toxic behavior and they were the one fighting the system protecting the criminal senior nco. He a criminal that got away with it. And he's one there two clown's podcast.
The dude's a lame leader. The senior NCO is responsible for unit cohesion - he should have his finger on the pulse of that 24/7. No drama allowed. But I can see that being an issue in a Tier 1 unit - where you have the best of the best, you're bound to have ego clashes.
Jay thinks strong leadership is throwing your weight aroused and but he won't tell you about the time he tried it and a private knocked him the fug out
let's be honest the nco's are the backbone of the military they're also the ones who ruin it by letting their egos get involved fishy shit with this whole case bad on both sides eddie isn't an angel and neither are those guys.
Bull, I did an investigation that encapsulated the deployment and the actions that occurred after. 1. Eddie was on tramadol. He was prescribed it for back pain. However, he was taking more than prescribed by accessing the drugs through the platoon's medical supplies. 2. He was on steroids. 3. He didn't rotate to the front lines and back like everybody else, he stayed forward, which is admirable. Look, he and his behavior and actions were influenced by the aforementioned drugs. In addition, Eddie had several behavior incidents in the SEAL teams and at BUD/S as an Instructor. In fact his OIC during that deployment is the same guy he punched when the guy was a student in 1st Phase in BUD/S. Look, he was a wounded bird. Tactically solid, superior operator. Sociopath.
Well, if naysayer government officials failed to prove that he committed murder, then why not sling some more mud on Chief Gallagher by claiming he was on a prescription drug during that last deployment! Good Job! You're a real gem !
@@jamesamelia2812 You know not of what you speak. I have been privy to every piece of evidence to include video of the incident. The reason he was aquited is because a platoon mate with immunity, claimed he killed the kid. I've seen the prescription drugs, the medical logs where he signed for additional Tramadol from medical supplies, the vials of steroids NCIS found in his gear. So why don't you STFU.
Is delta flawless??? I mean this should be called, "put down the navy seal" channel. This is what i mean when i say a house divided will not stand. Never will you hear me put down or broadcast the flaws of another operator to THE WORLD. You handle grievance INTERNALLY. My fellow brother's what jay is doing here is actually making our military weaker!!! Jay is spreading dissent, jay if your more capable than the seals...then TEACH THEM in a CALM POSITIVE WAY. This is so so sad that usa has come to this guys. Our enemies are probably watching this...thanks a lot jay!!!
No he's not. SEAL's are just another batch. They have shitbirds in their ranks, just like everyone else does. Their only problem is that they are either too unwilling, or too afraid to fix their shit and demand a better caliber of performance then is on, and has been on display. It's not about teaching, it's putting a spotlight on mutts that think their shit don't stink, but then actually have the balls to tell you how to pee a straight line. SEALs have to fix their own shit-stains, no one else should have to do it for them.
The Hodge twins haven't served in any capacity. The fact that they expressed an opinion on what anything "should be", especially as it relates to culture, is beyond me. It's even more telling to me that Eddie is going to these two for any reason. Much less to hear a whole grown man talk about how others were "hating on me". Which, in my experiences, is an indicator that that person doesn't believe in holding themselves accountable.
@@johnhanley6500 I'll need to see a DD-214 or something. Even then, people who run from accountability tend to gravitate to each other. I'd expect their capacity to have no floor for the sake of the off-chance of possibly getting a dollar to reflect in their "time of service." This is a perfect example of "not every service member is a good human being". The Hodges have excuses for every single reason why they refused to put their all into something and the subsequent failure, cut a corner, or felt something was too difficult so they spent that extra energy finding the "easier route" - even if it means self-deprecating. I'm sure when this well runs dry and they still aren't done disgracing themselves, they'll turn to whatever will takeover for the MOPAR community in the future - if they haven't tried gaming already - or "FansOnly". None of those things are anything to be ashamed for pursuing. But they'll choose something else, give the least amount of effort, get their $25.78 in ad revenue, and move onto the next low effort scheme. They already did "relationship gurus", and we know how that ended. Maybe they'll start selling whole life insurance or go half-in on a Ponzi scheme.
@@the1truth517 They've been on other veteran's podcasts talking about their experience in the Marine Corps. They're legit. They are Marines. They just don't talk about it a lot on their channels, but they have mentioned it a few times. No idea where the irrational rambling in the rest of your post comes from, but you seem to have a real hard on for disliking them for some reason.
He goes really in depth on the Shawn Ryan show, I believe he did everything he could, his LPO which is his #2 even turned on him, he was hard on his guys you even said you’re not there to be liked as the most senior NCO, he had several team meetings where he wanted to lay everything on the table too but I think eventually his leadership and the system as a whole screwed him. If you watch that whole Shawn Ryan interview you’ll see what I’m talking about, I don’t think there was anything he could do and he really tried.
A chief can get rid of anyone they don’t want if they think it effects overall morale. If a chief wants you out, they can make it happen just like any other E7 in the armed services.
Lol oh look, this channel talking about Navy Seals again as though the SF community doesn't have their fair share stuff like this. Clean your own backyard before you talk about someone else's
What’s incredible is the amount of people out there that have accepted his side of the story without question. He was a senior naval NCO within the community. When you are new your only job is to STFU. If you are in a support role, you are subordinate to the SO’s and will also STFU. Gallagher had a lot of autonomy and not enough oversight. He was killing unarmed bystanders. He was using his position to intimidate younger seals into silence. Gallagher has been lucky. He’s had all of the podcasters blindly support him. So it’s only his side of the story that’s gotten out. There is another side to this and it’s very unfair that those kids don’t have a platform to defend themselves. This dude abused his position of power. He and his wife flooded the information space and were able to shift public opinion to his side. Then Trump pardoned him and now that’s he’s been pardoned everyone thinks he is guilt free… he’s not. I do believe he should have been pardoned. But he should had disappeared into the shadows. This man is a liar and a war criminal that is hiding behind his SEAL status. He is using his trident as a shield to sidestep and deceive the public. I do believe his pardon should stand however. If our leadership had known how to win wars him and his team wouldn’t have been put in this predicament to begin with. But make no mistake, he is lying to you with every word. The guys involved who were on the other side of this debacle should be allowed to defend themselves in public. Only brave podcasters would be willing to give them that chance. If they did get to speak, Galla gets story would fall to pieces and he would be revealed as the liar that he is.
You keep harping on this like you were involved or have inside information. There's no one stopping the "other side" from going out and explaining their side. Their silence speaks volumes.
He was also if I remember, like the lead corpsman of the platoon. I'm a combat medic which is the Army version of what a corpsman is, and Jay, your a green beret... You ever hear of or witness in theater of operation about any marines or soldiers ever disrespecting their cooks or medics ( regardless of rank)? No, because it never happens ever. Gallagher used his array of medical skills and tools to torture and unless I'm misremembering, killed atleast one p.o.w. insurgent they had in their custody. If I got some information wrong, I appologize, because it has been years ago since i read and watched what this guy did over there. You should be enraged that Trump ignored The military top brass who told him to stay out of it. Instead Trump pardoned him simply because he was a seal or marine. That's so disgusting on so many levels, and stains everyone that has ever worn the uniform with distinction. Because the citizens of a country will always remember what that assclown did to them wearing our uniform with our flag on it, over the thousands that were there doing the right thing. And now he gets away with it and is blaming the guys the did the right thing and turned him in for crimes. Remember, you can only get pardoned for a crime you are guilty of, not innocence. But don't let logic or truth get in the way of a good lie, right. what a dick
You really need to catch up on this. There's plenty of podcasts out there that show his story. Watch one. You should be enraged that the military tried to put him in prison for life by all kinds of shady means. The other medic with Gallagher testified he, not Gallagher was the one that killed the terrorist. He was found at court martial for " unofficially posing for an unofficial picture" He was then demoted in rank. Trump stepped in because the Navy wouldn't. Look at what the Navy did to the captain of the USS Indianapolis and Admiral Kimmel from Pearl Harbor. Though he made mistakes he gets removed, while Marcarthur who did worse during those days gets a Medal of Honor. Again, do your research.You're going to be shocked.
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The SEALs have been on a downward spiral even since Robert’s Ridge. The Army also has more seasoned NCOs that have the experience to deal with these situations and are more focused on the team instead of just individual glory.
B.S. You better read the Army Times with the court martials and NJP. More people in the ARMY prison than Navy by far.
SF is under investigation for drug and sex trafficking, so it’s a whole military issue, not just the Navy.
@@deathfire096 Reading comprehension is a helluva drug.
Everyone has experience these days 2 or 3 deployments is low end but every unit is different doesn't matter if it's army navy
@@deathfire096there’s also like an ass ton more soldiers then sailors lol
This is why I’m against the draft. I’d rather go down the river with 10 studs than 100 shitheads.
I can kinda agree with that, but think of all of the people who volunteer and can’t hack it. Or think of guys that got drafted for WW2, Korea, or Vietnam that went on to be dependable and hard charging.
Sometimes you just can’t tell about someone until the metal hits the meat.
Lol, the draft is not for you bud its for the needs of the elite.
Real
well in a real war you need to drag people out, just look at what Ukraine is doing. If they do not drag people out they would not have an army as most of the volunteers are gone now
So far we have had the luxury is just being able to get by with volunteers and limited drafts not complete mobilization drafts
I have followed this story for a while and to get the full context of what happened there are 3 books that cover this story. Eddie Gallagher wrote a book speaking from his side of the story, a reporter wrote a book called Alpha which speaks form the whole platoon sides and also has a lot of research that covers a lot of other issues that were happening. He has a lot of texts, military records, etc. for this book. And the final book is called Code over Country which was written by another reporter that has a lot of research, data, and evidence to support what he is writing. This book covers the history of the Navy Seals, particularly Team 6 but also covers the Eddie Gallagher story
That’s really interesting thank you.
Fact is, no matter how hard some people try, not everyone has a likeable personality. The best thing to do is keep it professional at all times. The different between SF guys and SEALS, SF guys are a little older, thus making them more mature. When I went through the "Q," back in the late 1990s, by the time someone applied to go SF, they had already been in for a few of years. On the other hand, BUD guys for the most part were new to the Navy.
Amen
This is irrelevant straight up. as an enlisted guy, youre in the navy for bootcamp, buds prep, BO(buds orientation) before you even step foot into day 1 of 1st phase of bud/s. The process works, the teams know what they need. Majority of purely unwanted guys get weeded out before day 1 of bud/s. Then you have bud/s which nowadays which is further under even more of a microscope for *individuals* with technology available nowadays.
No military Special operations Selection program is perfect but bud/s is the closest it gets to it as humanly possible. a few weasels will ALWAYS find their way through.
My brother is an active seal. after graduating seal medic school in his 1st platoon, he then had to go to 18D (as all seal medics are required to do), he said he saw the same timid/afraid of whats coming next look in all the other branches there (battallion, SF, etc) that beginning of bud/s students have before the ocean/beach does its work and youre left with a bunch of dudes who just dont give a fuck. He'd rather work with the bottom 25% of team guys than the top 25% from anywhere else - he's been there done it. You will have bad apples in all SOF units and it doesn't come from prior experience it comes from who they are. BUD/S and SQT does a great job of filtering this and these cases are few and far between among active guys.
O's and enlisted go through bud/s together which creates a different dynamic. The seal teams are more free thinking/spirited by nature. leadership is leadership, your head shed is either great or not great, youre always going to have O's that are hated, senior enlisted etc (and who knows what gallagher really did beforehand leading up to deployment that wasnt really touched on).
Respect for serving always, this wasnt intended as hate or who's dicks bigger but just had to give some current context as to why none of that means anything
Jay, why not talk about the toxic culture in SF that led to sex trafficking and drug trafficking. Seems like something more important, and also it’s part of your own community.
Jay uh had a bad experience a seal showed his old lady what a real man can do that's why he hates them so much I'm a marine but I'll call it how I see it.
@@johnkarcis5142how did you see it? In the room?
Not really the same argument. Jay didn’t commit those crimes. While Eddie was charged with some heinous stuff.
@@RattlerNxt You are absolutely right about Eddie. I don’t support his side of the story at all. In regard to the comment, I am referring to Jay constantly firing shots at a community for being “toxic” yet he never calls out the mistakes of his own community. If his goal was cleaning up flaws or corruption he should start with that, and I would fully support him. Unfortunately, I think he just wants clicks.
@@Pugsley262 I can’t comment. I think I only started listening a few weeks back. We have our own issues. Like the guys at Bragg. The dudes who tried to pull a coup on VZ. Others. I mean I can talk about SFs toxic culture all day long. But what he said about Eddie not taking responsibility for his unit or his actions, that’s true regardless of if it’s a deal team or an sf team. And the sf stuff rarely gets national news like Eddie got.
The navy doesn’t have the NCO corps like the army does.
Yup E5 depending on your rate and you as an individual will determine if you are respected by the division or not. The navy doesn’t care about rank structure as much as the rest of the military branches. E6 and up obviously respected but anything below E6 it really doesn’t matter. Especially on the boat.
@@payattention5157 Navy E-4 is called a 'Petty Officer.' In the US Army an E-4 is a Specialist and that's not that big of deal. It's not until an E-4 shows leadership potential and becomes a Corporal that rank become significant. The Specialists that think they're a mafia are short-term mafia seeing they can't do a career as a Specialist.
Say you don't know what the E4 mafia is without saying "I don't know what the E4 mafia is".....not that there is such a thing.
Yeah petty officers we know what he meant guy.
@@rwdchannel2901 a 3rd class in the navy is a nothing rank. Don’t pretend it is. A specialist has far more responsibility
This is the culture in the SEAL Teams. This is NOT unique to Eddie Gallagher.
I'm in SOF right now and Eddie's story seems legit to me. Lots of cliques and Eddie didn't fit in. I see the same shit.
Nice me too I see it all the time
@@bruteforce1996 same bullshit everywhere. Doesn't matter what branch you're in. Jay either gave into the mob or seriously didn't give a fuck about what his team thought of him for being a strict leader. The more I hear Eddie's story the more I can relate to the petty SOF bullshit.
or maybe Army SF is just that chill and everyone gets along on team.
Gravy seal?meal team 6?
Don’t believe you bro, if you were a seal you’d have a book deal and a podcast!
Be safe bro 🇺🇸 🫡.
@@--4606kinda reminds me of law enforcement and the medical field along with prison where if someone in a group has an issue then that whole group wants smoke
I appreciate your point about Eddie Gallagher and how he should have nipped the situation in the bud. However, there could be other factors at play. Speaking from my experience as an NCO in the Army, I can tell you that you can be undermined by anyone-sometimes even by your own leadership-and often nothing will be done about it.
Now, I don’t know much about the SEAL culture or how easy it is to request to be moved out of a platoon-whether it's straightforward or more complex. But one thing I do know, whether in the military or the civilian world, is that without the backing of your senior leadership, it’s extremely difficult to get things done, move people out of an organization, or even get rid of people who aren’t the right fit or are causing issues.
Based on how he talks about the theft accusations, I'm given the impression there's a good chance he was taking those red bulls and power bars from his seals. Which kinda also implies there was a good bit of that "I'm the senior" mentality, which usually is accompanied by taking advantage of your juniors. I don't know anything for sure; just the impression I get.
Even more impressive than Eddie Gallagher is his Wife Andrea.
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@@kenfresno1711hey i live in Fresno CA. 😂😂😂🎉🎉. Im being totally honest. I live near fresno st and shaw, on N. Thesta,. 😅😅
@@kenfresno1711 Don't give a sarcastic eye roll emoji, because you know he's right. Just Google her.
Yeah. She stood by him. Even maybe was the reason why he was pardoned 😊
You need to get him on your show. I feel you know what questions need to be asked.
Jay I agree with you. Leadership should have dealt with those bad eggs from the start especially in a environment that they were in. You can't afford that drama because it could cost lives. Thanks for the content.
Never special ops, but former 11B platoon sergeant here. During OIF3, I was a Platoon Leader as an E6. Yeah, a PL.
Based on two decades of Army combat arms service, and dealing with branch transfers during GWOT (Navy, Air Force, Marines) no other service teaches brass tacks leadership better than the Army. The prior USMC especially, were good at individual tasks and tactics, Army-style leadership? Not so much.
How do you spell “Joint” as in joint operations? A-R-M-Y
Army teachers leadership BEFORE soldiers become NCO’s and stresses that to be a good leader you must be a good follower first. Understand the leader’s intent.
I think the Army is the only service that does it that early and to that extent
Admittedly, I served in regular infantry units, so maybe it’s different in special forces type units.
But in the regular combat arms, we were trained early as junior NCOs how to deal with (and rehabilitate if possible) toxic subordinates.
I don’t think that’s taught in the other branches as early and as thoroughly as it is in the Army
Thank You for you biased opinion. I served in both the Marine Corps and the Army, so I have an inside view of both. You will disagree but the Marine Corps does it better, period. As for Special Ops units, I was a part of that as well and they are on a different elevated level.
@@kellygarbiso9945 to be candid, I did state my biases up front and the limited relevance of my experience (regular Infantry, Army service only). I’m not going to rebut your conclusions based on your own experience, which also includes special operations where mine does not. I would say that given the discussion in the video, the Chief makes an observation that I think is relevant to my comment. The junior teammates he had problems with undermining his leadership were new and had not deployed before. Even though they were his subordinates, they were still NCOs right? I get that rank distinctions don’t mean the same in special operations as they do in line units, different culture. But as our Team Sergeant host noted, that sort of behavior is not something he would have encountered among 18 series NCOs on a SF team. I wouldn’t expect that type of thing from 11 series junior NCOs in a regular platoon either.I think there’s a reason for that-the reason being how leadership is taught early in the Army. Not trying to change your mind, just clarifying my biased and irrelevant opinion lol. Cheers.
@@anthonykelly1368 To your point, Fair. I alone however do not accept all that Gallagher says to be true.
Something that not alot are thinking of during this interview is Gallagher had finished up answering to charges. Was he being 100% truthful? Probably just saying what he thought was best to make himself appear as a victim?
Eddie’s lack of personal responsibility throughout this conversation points to his lack of leadership.
He needs to talk to Jocko about extreme ownership
Do as Jocko says not as he reportedly did as a SEAL leader
He’s responsible for the fact that three of his guys had low moral character? How? You ever been in the military? Maybe you should listen to his interview with Shawn Ryan first before having an opinion on him.
And for the people who commented: the fuck is jocko? A loser with a big ego who loves to run his mouth like he’s a something. He has no moral compass.
You know nothing of war or leadership so stop talking
@@brandanwilliams1973 I’ve been there a few times. But maybe you weren’t talking to me.
Aren't there A LOT of stories on how Gallagher was a rogue leader, trying to get body counts?
Any dude in a combat job/mos is wishing for the chance to get atleast one body on their count. Its what they trained us for. Our whole purpose in the military.
So, all of us in special operations? Lol
Do we trust that it wasn't a smear campaign?
You mean trying to do the job he was trained to do? These guys are weapons. Catching bodies is what they do
Not really, There WAS a unified political smear campaign against him, though, lead by that "SEAL" in congress named Dan Crenshaw of Texas.
I'm not sure who to believe in this situation, but him taking a pic with the dead Isis fighter like it was a trophy pic was not a good look. Hard to judge the bro since there are few who have had the experiences hes had
They aren’t normal people. And it obviously wasn’t for the public lol.
But it wasn’t just him there were other seals in the picture
As the leader of that platoon he should have shut that crap down. The other teammates should have had his back. Senior Chief should have stepped up and squared those three away. I completely agree.
Read David Philip's book Alpha: Eddie Gallagher and the War for the Soul of the Navy Seals. The issue to me isn't that he killed a POW (the Iraqi army would have done worse to him) but that civilians were murdered by this guy and he put his men in harms way for no good reason other than to play sniper. This is not a good dude.
I don’t believe that, those guys were PROVEN liars in court they have no credibility, that’s why he wasn’t charged with killing civilians, it’s a tough job he’s there to fight and kill ISIS, I’m not sure you understand the evil shit ISIS did, they have to take it to the enemy the way he has been through the whole GWAT.
NGL Eddie played this really smart. He turned it into a generational war and hammered home all the stereotypes about kids and kept harping on them. That alone shut down a lot of folks critical thinking real quick and then anybody with some age on them, or carrying a superiority complex immediately sees this as a culture war thing, the rest of the platoon just not having it what it takes but Eddie does. And then people connect with that i’ve got what it takes, but they don’t attitude. If SEAL & poor me victim narrative wasn’t attached to his name so strongly then people would be looking at his command and performance failures and drug addiction in a hell of a lot different light.
How about a video on Beret Leshikar?
Sounds like poor leadership and poor following
There is a lot to be said about taking someone outback.
It works. I'm ex Australian infantry and shit birds get called out all the time when in battalion. We even had Friday night fight nights were shit cunts were called out by amateur boxers in the unit 😄
I remember I got a counseling for showing up late to formation got smoked for an 40 plus minutes
The good ol' woodline conversations.
Seal platoon is 14 enlisted and 2 officers
Agreed!. It’s a different attitude towards leadership. I was enlisted Navy and then Marines. Weak team leaders in a platoon affect the rest of the guys.
Trying to manage them instead. Chief Gallagher got stuck with a group of unprofessional dudes that represent a lot of this generation’s attitude.
Thanks for the content!.- enjoyed the episode.
That documentary was awesome.
I think it's kind of a different when these probably are happening in a war zone. Especially a crazy deployment like they were on. They have a lot of other things to worry about. So I could see how these issues could go by.
So nobody gna bring up the opiods or steroids about Gallagher?
I remember the first news articles when Gallagher was arrested. One of the sites posted the charging documents. There were steroids found in his sleeping area and he was charged with possession(?)...if my memory is correct. If he was using steroids, it could lend credence to the stories of him being wild and out there.
shut the F up dude. all the ODA guys, CAG guys, DEVGRU guys were juicing up over seas. Ranger Battalion guys were probably the most juiced out gorillas during deployment. funny thing is no one cares about steroid use. leadership did not care, as long as you go out there and kick some ass.
@@montyburnz Steroids don’t make you “wild and out there”.
Non factor.
Why? They are common among SOF. They are going to war, not playing sports, so every advantage helps. Do you have a problem with amphetamine use while deployed?
Eddie is the type of Plt Sgt to give Marines wet dreams by guaranteeing them combat. Those are the type of men we looked up to when being a young guy going up in the ranks. Those seals had blue falcon all over them.
Like the new logo style 😎
Agree 100% with Jay. These are Leadership skills fails that compound thru that platoon.
Seals are a mess
The SF community is also a mess; they're just hiding it better than the SEALs are
@@Charlie-fu3gewhy are you so butthurt
@@Charlie-fu3ge he can say whatever he likes because last time I checked America is a free country and has something called freedom of speech. Or do you not respect the first amendment your forefathers gave you and men in the military fought and died for you to have? There is a reason it is the first of the amendments. Buy yourself a copy of the constitution and read it.
@@brandonl7110he's right. Who tf are you to question the men that put their lives on the line.
@@DragonNectar freedom of speech
I recommend you read his book or listen to shawn ryan podcast. A lot more goes into it than this and he definently tried to squash it way earlier however they were going behind his back. So its not like they were talking shit to his face.
Also was trained in combat triage by SEAL. Absolute great dude! But there are those who are like, just jump through the hoops, i was like are you kidding
Its very hard to discipline dirtbags. I remember an E3 that just would not conform to Navy standards. The command tried everything with this kid, and everything failed. I will say this about the E7s and above. Prior to about 2008 the chiefs had a huge amount of influence. It was the chiefs saying to the divo " Sir, everything is accomplished, I am letting non-duty folks go for the day." Something happened to where the influence became non existant. I will say the culture inside the teams is not as mature as an ODA/MARSOC team is. When I screened for DEVGRU in the summer of 2007 as an enabler, you could definitely feel and see the culture behind the fenceline.
It is interesting to hear from the inside. I follow some seals on Twitter and some call EG a war criminal and others say he is a hero who was wrongfully accused. I read EG's book and listened to the evidence in the case. It was not open and shut like the Navy brass tried to make it out to be.
It's also very hard for anyone to define war crimes against anyone when you have President's who order strikes that harm civilians.
@@JW-bu8bn I agree with President Trump by giving EG benefit of the doubt when he's done a lot of service for this country in very dangerous places. A great personal and physical cost to himself.
Because the nco's abused their rank and lost the privilege.
Before commentating…..Go read “the man in the arena” I can’t tell the whole story in a 90 min podcast.
You stay on the SEAL's neck lol
He holds more grudges than an ex-wife.
After Gallagher got screwed, I was proud to be in the Regiment
Exactly I would love to have great leadership that was rough on us. But we still here
Sounds like a case of the "Good ol boys club". Happens A LOT unfortunately!
Where was the officer in charge of this platoon
I dig the interviews on this channel but the 20/20 hindsight certitude that comes in these solo videos is not my cup of tea. It’s a pet peeve of mine with everyone not just here. I find it annoying when someone feels comfortable ripping someone else with limited information.
Perhaps Eddie should be getting ripped even harder. I’m not saying he shouldn’t but I’m not saying he should. There’s so much missing information in his interview to get a clear enough picture for a harsh criticism or defense imo.
I think the problem with the SEAL teams is much like the problem probably with 18X is that they come directly off of the streets. No prior Military experience. No prior crappy job in the fleet with no maturity. On top of that the toxicity from the get go in BUD/s. It’s not really taught to be a team even though it’s a team based selection. Just my thoughts.
They don’t even learn infantry shit. They pass buds n get their ego high
Think there is way more to this than being told.
Different culture mate
The truth with the Eddie G situation lies somewhere in the middle. He did some shady shit and was a poor leader but didn't deserve the treatment he got.
I remember when my team Sergeant got my packet being the new guy he got me alone with him broke it down to me. People don’t understand what you have in your packet will follow you. They’re gonna get your packet. They’re gonna see who you are my team Sergeant good man good friend he kept it simple with me. Tell me is what you do here from now on this is a new start for you. We had a long talk and he squared me away.
U can do a articl 15 failure to adapt or counseling or move them
Eddie is speaking the truth. This happens often in the fleet as well. Senior leadership encourages junior enlisted to break the chain of command.
I’m absolutely not buying Gallagher’s story
1) there have been other accusations. Patterns of them
2) he’s the tiresome kind of unhinged crazy, not the enjoyable kind
Do seals have peer evaluations during selection and throughout the pipeline? Sounds like they don't!
Crazy shirt that went on with Gallagher
I know this guy took a trophy picture with the enemies dead body. That's just fucked up.
It's not a big deal to me.
Totally agree with you, In the 82 nd bad seeds were dealt with by buck Sgts, then platoon leader, once it got to top, they would disappear ! Mud ducks don’t belong
Government employees stay raggedy.
EG is FOS ! And this channel loves spreading a little Navy hate whenever it can.
Those three should go back thru buds
And now, one of the Navyseal he talks bad about are Devgru now, so Gallagher can say whatever he wants!! Gallagher was kicked out of Greenteam..
The saw the documentary on Apple TV about Eddie. At first I thought maybe this guy is just old school and doesn’t want to expand his emotional intelligence to be able to communicate better with the new wave of seals. That wasn’t the case. Those younger guys he was in charge of straight up lying and commit perjury in court. They had a scheme and they were going to go all the way with it. It finally took one dude to admit that what they were doing was wrong.
You are displaying the Union Jack backwards. Blue field is always to the left.
The Union Jack is the UK flag
The jack of the United States, referred to as the Union Jack by the U.S. Navy, is a maritime jack flag flown on the bow of U.S. vessels that are moored or anchored.
This is a perfect example of why letting regular guys walk of the street and join the seals why its wrong. And why how the army does it or used toom making a guy be 2 years in and hopefully seen combat before. Before joining a sf group is a good idea. I know the 18x is a thing but shouldn't be. There should be 2 years experience before being eligible for any sf group.
I know in the Army Rangers if that were the case they would be fired .
I saw clique to small degree on AFSOC. I trainwd with SEALs . Vietnam UDT / SEALs a cut anove , a different Breed.
Actually, it’s 40 dudes, not 20.
Why? Cus either they were producing the stats NCO wanted i.e. bodies so they let em be same thing w/all the covers ups that were turned into movies. Cris Kyle for all he accomplished he left this world looking like a habitual liar, read his book & then what he did to Ventura & was a mass murderer to boot who they NCO covered up for. Then the Lone Runner turns out he never fired a shot & ran when things got hairy on his 1st deployment then lied saying they're all dead but in reality when in they recovered the bodies 10 days later, iirc Dietz looked like he'd been dead for 24hr & was down to his pistol. The cover ups only happen from the top down, same w/dude who allegedly killed UBL. Ppl in the community been speaking out.
Why not just ask Eddie to be on your lil shit on seals (which I’m not against, but let’s call it what it 90% is) show and ask?
This dude is a scuuumbag. You need to hear the other guys side of the story. Eddie has the advantage of having all the media attention.. but he was NOT the good guy in this situation. Plain and simple. He is smearing these guys for trying to do the right thing.
I agree!
Bring the Receipts.
In that culture, telling is a big no-no and they handle in house. For the guys to feel it is necessary is a red flag on Gallagher.
@@manofaction1807 invite them on more podcasts.
Then go and talk directly to the individuals involved.
If any of the crap they charged him with had an ounce of truth, he would be in a military prison for life. They only thing they got him for was a picture with a dead ISIS fighter. NCIS was pushing hard to put him away. You might want to look into what happened on the ground during the deployment, what happened post deployment, during the investigation/incarceration, and after before you go spouting stupid crap you just heard and believe.
Jay is calling out the bs SF wide.
Army SF will clean this bs up.
They are the adults in the community.
Lets do a play by play of this video right quick. First off I know you cant just kick people off your team now because of the manning crisis and I know you are aware of this so stop acting like you would have these dudes kicked to the bteam pronto, takes loads of paperwork and time to accomplish this. Next, stop trying to assimilate to the seal teams, your a green beret and your not even a combat diver so you have zero ground to stand on to even talk about the teams or try to. Next, leading a ODA into war is not anything like leading them into some Joint training exchange in Jordan. As a team sgt or a senior on a team you have zero power now, SGM will tell you whats up , again you cant kick anyone off a team immediately now so stop trying to make yourself relevant to anything that happened to Eddy. Also, slanging a SF prep program in a video designed for clout using a highly visible seal is pitiful. As a green beret i am embarrassed of this video especially using a man that was found innocent in the court of law over a NSW witch hunt. Next, no one cares about your opinion or “your leadership skills” stick to talking about 3rd groups prostitution rings or something green beret related. 👌🏻
He didn’t threaten article 15?
Hating on Eddie is kinda stupid as what happened to him was unjust AF.
@@bluewave2024 yes instead of criticizing his leadership how about focus on the fact some unscrupulous people lied to possibly get him locked up for life, and the NCIS raided his home and dragged his kids out at gunpoint!
@@bluewave2024 Yes absolutely 👍
Dude it makes no sense. If 3 dudes were so toxic how come no one else corroborated these toxic guys. He had option to deal with them as you mentioned. He's lying to cover for his toxic behavior and they were the one fighting the system protecting the criminal senior nco. He a criminal that got away with it. And he's one there two clown's podcast.
Naval leadership style is fly by the seat of your pants.
The dude's a lame leader. The senior NCO is responsible for unit cohesion - he should have his finger on the pulse of that 24/7. No drama allowed. But I can see that being an issue in a Tier 1 unit - where you have the best of the best, you're bound to have ego clashes.
Maybe it's an Army thing, yes, Jay.
I can't believe he didn't rein in those three. It bit him in the ass that he did not
Jay thinks strong leadership is throwing your weight aroused and but he won't tell you about the time he tried it and a private knocked him the fug out
You seem to know a lot about him. Either you are a stalker or just lying.
I agree, smells like "teen spirit" to me. Some peoples kids.
I don’t know what to believe anymore but listening to him I would not want him leading my son on the battlefield!!
we wernt taking any prisoners... OOF , i hope he dont mean what i thought, altough i dont condone it, i understand
Should call it the gayvy
let's be honest the nco's are the backbone of the military they're also the ones who ruin it by letting their egos get involved fishy shit with this whole case bad on both sides eddie isn't an angel and neither are those guys.
Bull, I did an investigation that encapsulated the deployment and the actions that occurred after. 1. Eddie was on tramadol. He was prescribed it for back pain. However, he was taking more than prescribed by accessing the drugs through the platoon's medical supplies. 2. He was on steroids. 3. He didn't rotate to the front lines and back like everybody else, he stayed forward, which is admirable. Look, he and his behavior and actions were influenced by the aforementioned drugs. In addition, Eddie had several behavior incidents in the SEAL teams and at BUD/S as an Instructor. In fact his OIC during that deployment is the same guy he punched when the guy was a student in 1st Phase in BUD/S. Look, he was a wounded bird. Tactically solid, superior operator. Sociopath.
Well, if naysayer government officials failed to prove that he committed murder, then why not sling some more mud on Chief Gallagher by claiming he was on a prescription drug during that last deployment! Good Job! You're a real gem !
@@jamesamelia2812 You know not of what you speak. I have been privy to every piece of evidence to include video of the incident. The reason he was aquited is because a platoon mate with immunity, claimed he killed the kid. I've seen the prescription drugs, the medical logs where he signed for additional Tramadol from medical supplies, the vials of steroids NCIS found in his gear. So why don't you STFU.
@@jamesamelia2812 Moolie?
Are you a SEAL to?
@@mikesmith7497 41 years.
When in charge be in charge
Is delta flawless??? I mean this should be called, "put down the navy seal" channel. This is what i mean when i say a house divided will not stand. Never will you hear me put down or broadcast the flaws of another operator to THE WORLD. You handle grievance INTERNALLY. My fellow brother's what jay is doing here is actually making our military weaker!!! Jay is spreading dissent, jay if your more capable than the seals...then TEACH THEM in a CALM POSITIVE WAY. This is so so sad that usa has come to this guys. Our enemies are probably watching this...thanks a lot jay!!!
Right this dude bashes seals nonstop makes me think one of them left them nuts hanging with his mom or wife lmao
Just your take. I happen to believe that Seals are kind of messed up
@@Golgi-Gyges SF is in the midst of sex trafficking and drug trafficking scandals across multiple theaters. Sounds like everyone has some issues.
No he's not. SEAL's are just another batch. They have shitbirds in their ranks, just like everyone else does. Their only problem is that they are either too unwilling, or too afraid to fix their shit and demand a better caliber of performance then is on, and has been on display.
It's not about teaching, it's putting a spotlight on mutts that think their shit don't stink, but then actually have the balls to tell you how to pee a straight line.
SEALs have to fix their own shit-stains, no one else should have to do it for them.
The Hodge twins haven't served in any capacity. The fact that they expressed an opinion on what anything "should be", especially as it relates to culture, is beyond me. It's even more telling to me that Eddie is going to these two for any reason. Much less to hear a whole grown man talk about how others were "hating on me". Which, in my experiences, is an indicator that that person doesn't believe in holding themselves accountable.
The Hodge twins were actually in the marine corps during the 90’s.They actually talked about it in one of their podcast.
@@johnhanley6500 I'll need to see a DD-214 or something. Even then, people who run from accountability tend to gravitate to each other. I'd expect their capacity to have no floor for the sake of the off-chance of possibly getting a dollar to reflect in their "time of service." This is a perfect example of "not every service member is a good human being". The Hodges have excuses for every single reason why they refused to put their all into something and the subsequent failure, cut a corner, or felt something was too difficult so they spent that extra energy finding the "easier route" - even if it means self-deprecating.
I'm sure when this well runs dry and they still aren't done disgracing themselves, they'll turn to whatever will takeover for the MOPAR community in the future - if they haven't tried gaming already - or "FansOnly". None of those things are anything to be ashamed for pursuing. But they'll choose something else, give the least amount of effort, get their $25.78 in ad revenue, and move onto the next low effort scheme. They already did "relationship gurus", and we know how that ended. Maybe they'll start selling whole life insurance or go half-in on a Ponzi scheme.
@@the1truth517 They've been on other veteran's podcasts talking about their experience in the Marine Corps. They're legit. They are Marines. They just don't talk about it a lot on their channels, but they have mentioned it a few times. No idea where the irrational rambling in the rest of your post comes from, but you seem to have a real hard on for disliking them for some reason.
He goes really in depth on the Shawn Ryan show, I believe he did everything he could, his LPO which is his #2 even turned on him, he was hard on his guys you even said you’re not there to be liked as the most senior NCO, he had several team meetings where he wanted to lay everything on the table too but I think eventually his leadership and the system as a whole screwed him. If you watch that whole Shawn Ryan interview you’ll see what I’m talking about, I don’t think there was anything he could do and he really tried.
I watched it. This dude is a damn war hero 20 years of service is self explanatory, I’m glad trump pardoned him
GM
The man's a liar
Give all operators a transfer request pre-signed by you on day one. If you don't want to be here , complete the sheet.
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Boo hoo!
Wasn't he a chief, he had the power to make them go away. I know the powers of a Chief, I was as a USN HM3(fmf) for 6 years. CPO's have power!
A chief doesnt have anymore power than an E7 in any other branch
A chief can get rid of anyone they don’t want if they think it effects overall morale. If a chief wants you out, they can make it happen just like any other E7 in the armed services.
@@doomsdayprophecies1739 no, they can not just get rid of you on a regular command
Damn my boy you only react to peoples content, yikes
You never find that problem in the Army ODA
Lol oh look, this channel talking about Navy Seals again as though the SF community doesn't have their fair share stuff like this. Clean your own backyard before you talk about someone else's
What’s incredible is the amount of people out there that have accepted his side of the story without question. He was a senior naval NCO within the community. When you are new your only job is to STFU. If you are in a support role, you are subordinate to the SO’s and will also STFU. Gallagher had a lot of autonomy and not enough oversight. He was killing unarmed bystanders. He was using his position to intimidate younger seals into silence.
Gallagher has been lucky. He’s had all of the podcasters blindly support him. So it’s only his side of the story that’s gotten out. There is another side to this and it’s very unfair that those kids don’t have a platform to defend themselves.
This dude abused his position of power. He and his wife flooded the information space and were able to shift public opinion to his side. Then Trump pardoned him and now that’s he’s been pardoned everyone thinks he is guilt free… he’s not.
I do believe he should have been pardoned. But he should had disappeared into the shadows. This man is a liar and a war criminal that is hiding behind his SEAL status. He is using his trident as a shield to sidestep and deceive the public.
I do believe his pardon should stand however. If our leadership had known how to win wars him and his team wouldn’t have been put in this predicament to begin with.
But make no mistake, he is lying to you with every word.
The guys involved who were on the other side of this debacle should be allowed to defend themselves in public. Only brave podcasters would be willing to give them that chance. If they did get to speak, Galla gets story would fall to pieces and he would be revealed as the liar that he is.
You keep harping on this like you were involved or have inside information. There's no one stopping the "other side" from going out and explaining their side. Their silence speaks volumes.
@@IRatherbeTrashthanADemocrat you are responding like you know what you are talking about. You are a drone that only believe what the TV tells you.
Be like Gallagher! Gallagher is an Alpha Male! he's an Alpha Male! Listen to him and live! Don't and exit stage left a with blue felt pen!
What!? Yeah ok andrew tate!
Dude must have got out before Obama and don't understand military politics anymore. Sounds good
He was also if I remember, like the lead corpsman of the platoon. I'm a combat medic which is the Army version of what a corpsman is, and Jay, your a green beret... You ever hear of or witness in theater of operation about any marines or soldiers ever disrespecting their cooks or medics ( regardless of rank)? No, because it never happens ever. Gallagher used his array of medical skills and tools to torture and unless I'm misremembering, killed atleast one p.o.w. insurgent they had in their custody. If I got some information wrong, I appologize, because it has been years ago since i read and watched what this guy did over there. You should be enraged that Trump ignored The military top brass who told him to stay out of it. Instead Trump pardoned him simply because he was a seal or marine. That's so disgusting on so many levels, and stains everyone that has ever worn the uniform with distinction. Because the citizens of a country will always remember what that assclown did to them wearing our uniform with our flag on it, over the thousands that were there doing the right thing. And now he gets away with it and is blaming the guys the did the right thing and turned him in for crimes. Remember, you can only get pardoned for a crime you are guilty of, not innocence. But don't let logic or truth get in the way of a good lie, right. what a dick
Did you witness the dismemberment of men women and children? Please save the act of being too good. Isis fighters weren't human. Cry me a river 🤡
You really need to catch up on this. There's plenty of podcasts out there that show his story. Watch one.
You should be enraged that the military tried to put him in prison for life by all kinds of shady means.
The other medic with Gallagher testified he, not Gallagher was the one that killed the terrorist. He was found at court martial for " unofficially posing for an unofficial picture" He was then demoted in rank. Trump stepped in because the Navy wouldn't. Look at what the Navy did to the captain of the USS Indianapolis and Admiral Kimmel from Pearl Harbor. Though he made mistakes he gets removed, while Marcarthur who did worse during those days gets a Medal of Honor.
Again, do your research.You're going to be shocked.
That's why ST6 needs to be abolished!
NO
@@RainMan221 YES they suck
Eddie was not at ST6. Has zero correlation.
@Pugsley262 sure ok seal!
@@bakixavirists4561 ok gamer