His info wasn't real though. He put two evil pings in his noble information. But as he said the important step was that he claimed and then very consequently played to be stss of both his neighbours.
I played a game as the evil twin. When the sailor-drunk good twin mathematician received a 10, I knew it was over for me. It’s the weird info that often sounds the most convincing, because who the hell would make this stuff up?
@@GödekeMichels_72 That's what I was saying. Players bluffing info roles are often afraid to bluff weird info for fear of seeming sus, but very often true info is weird. Whether intentionally or not, the fact that Ben doubled down on info that, on paper, made him seem sus, actually made him more trusted. I don't think anyone even floated the idea of Ben being a demon until final three.
The message bit was SO FUNNY😅😅😅😂😂😂 i had no idea the icon sizes and speeds changed based on the size of the text. The programmer who did that deserves a raise for sure🎉
So for a little bit more context to the precursor of this game, Iris, Alejo, Michelle, and Jojo have been wanting to be in a Lord of Typhon line for sometime and wrote an elegant letter to Aggie requesting for such a thing to happen hopefully. I countered with wanting to be the Amnesiac to counter the line. This goes back in forth with letters until the game started lmao, which is why we reference that line so hard. It's probably why we won the game honestly but still was loads of fun :3 It's weird being trusted on the stream though, I'm so used to not be trusted xD
This game was incredible, reminds me of a TB game I was in where I was Imp claiming Fortune Teller, got on the block with 6 votes day 1, managed to scrape it to a tie with a bunch of people suspicious of me, couldn't starpass because there was extreme suspicion on my minion (there was a sober Empath between us who kept learning a 2 plus an Investigator ping), and still somehow managed to brute force my way to final 3 with my minion by throwing doubt onto my own bogus FT information, winning after the only remaining good player nominated the minion instead of me. An absolute underdog game from start to finish.
One of my favorite mechanics of Blood on the Clocktower is the way each game's narrative can be swayed by the Script. Just the possibility of a certain character being there can shift the entire mystery. Lord of Typhon may not be the most powerful demon, but it was so cool to see how in this game, it seemed to take precedence when solving the mystery, over something like Vortox. I mean, town was right of course, but it's fascinating to me that much of the discussion was centered around Typhon over Vortox.
I think people can become too used with using the app. In a public game you wouldn't have the option to coordinate all of this evil info on night one. Some rules can be bended or broken of course, but I think the rule that prohibits disclosing your role before the first dawn is fair to let everyone start at the same baseline. "First night: The night phase that begins the game. Some characters act only during the first night. Some characters act during each night except the first. Players may talk about their characters only after the first night. "
Ok, hear me out. In partnership with NRB, how about a Dom Allen Cheese Monger token? Good townsfolk that every night selects a person which gets recorded. If they are able to select the entire baddie team, then the baddies (all or one?) lose their powers for either a night or the rest of the game, thereby confirming there was a cheese monger and also giving like a “no new infections” pandemic sort of evening. If it’s the whole game, it would take three rounds anyway to get the baddies, so it could be a powerful character that doesn’t want to die. With the theme being cheese, figured maybe Dom, ahem, the Cheese Monger, gives them the runs or something as we all know…the baddies are lactose intolerant (jk to those who are). I’d love it to be an evil character to fit more with Dom’s vibe, but he will always be a good cheese monger at heart.
Day 2 started with 4 living evil and 4 living good. You (Ben) not having had your kill because the monk protected an evil player, and the gossip was wrong. That could easily have been 3 living good 4 living evil at the start of day 2... (I'm assuming an ST wouldn't let it get to 2 good, 4 evil with the gossip killing a good player...)
@@notsolmthe fringe cases where kills escalate are rare though. You need a situation where the conditions are met and no overlaps happen (so a person isn't killed twice or indeed protected). Point in case had the monk not protected Ben would have killed a minion early on. What is correct is that this setup calls for discipline with dead votes.
Ah, I see what you mean now. I forget that some folks naturally think in terms of 'dead = eliminated'. I only consider good players out of contention once they've spent their ghost votes. - Ben
I have a question that has nothing to do with this script. Isn't the farmer a bad ability for town, because posible good information roles could become the farmer? Shouldn't it be an outsider? I genuinely don't know enough about BOTC to argue either way, just want to know
Any character that can prove itself to be what it is claiming to be is one of the most powerful characters in the game. In Blood on the Clocktower, certainty is an extremely rare commodity. - Ben
They become healthy. The Monk protects against all harmful Demon effects. This includes things like Pukka and No Dashii poisoning, the misinformation caused by the Vortox etc. - Ben
That satisfying DINK! DINK! DINK! DINK! of a Typhon line knowng they're about to win is pure music, honestly.
Clockmaker Sully walked so Noble Ben could run
Outstanding. Real townsfolk info is so often weirder than made-up townsfolk info, and Ben leaned into it hard.
His info wasn't real though. He put two evil pings in his noble information. But as he said the important step was that he claimed and then very consequently played to be stss of both his neighbours.
I played a game as the evil twin. When the sailor-drunk good twin mathematician received a 10, I knew it was over for me. It’s the weird info that often sounds the most convincing, because who the hell would make this stuff up?
@@GödekeMichels_72 That's what I was saying. Players bluffing info roles are often afraid to bluff weird info for fear of seeming sus, but very often true info is weird. Whether intentionally or not, the fact that Ben doubled down on info that, on paper, made him seem sus, actually made him more trusted. I don't think anyone even floated the idea of Ben being a demon until final three.
@@mitigatedrisk4264 Yes that is true the storytellers just love to tweak info so that it is never "easy" to solve.
I know it was fake, but using a tinker to mask an amnesiac ability that can kill on night 1 is actually a really funny and clever idea.
I've been turned into a cow, can I go home?
Hahaha, my favorite movie.
You just wanna MOOOVE on from it
You are excused
Yay, I'm a llama again...Oh wait
The message bit was SO FUNNY😅😅😅😂😂😂 i had no idea the icon sizes and speeds changed based on the size of the text. The programmer who did that deserves a raise for sure🎉
So for a little bit more context to the precursor of this game, Iris, Alejo, Michelle, and Jojo have been wanting to be in a Lord of Typhon line for sometime and wrote an elegant letter to Aggie requesting for such a thing to happen hopefully. I countered with wanting to be the Amnesiac to counter the line. This goes back in forth with letters until the game started lmao, which is why we reference that line so hard. It's probably why we won the game honestly but still was loads of fun :3
It's weird being trusted on the stream though, I'm so used to not be trusted xD
it’s you! your lil head bob idle animation is super cute! clicked on your channel, you might want to update your about section lol
This game was incredible, reminds me of a TB game I was in where I was Imp claiming Fortune Teller, got on the block with 6 votes day 1, managed to scrape it to a tie with a bunch of people suspicious of me, couldn't starpass because there was extreme suspicion on my minion (there was a sober Empath between us who kept learning a 2 plus an Investigator ping), and still somehow managed to brute force my way to final 3 with my minion by throwing doubt onto my own bogus FT information, winning after the only remaining good player nominated the minion instead of me. An absolute underdog game from start to finish.
One of my favorite mechanics of Blood on the Clocktower is the way each game's narrative can be swayed by the Script. Just the possibility of a certain character being there can shift the entire mystery.
Lord of Typhon may not be the most powerful demon, but it was so cool to see how in this game, it seemed to take precedence when solving the mystery, over something like Vortox. I mean, town was right of course, but it's fascinating to me that much of the discussion was centered around Typhon over Vortox.
aggie did such a good job story telling
Thank you 💜✨
Trying to decide which “showing ‘em how it’s done” I like better: this game or a DA game Ben had a ways back.
Ben as an unprocced virgin on final 3, obviously.
Lots of sus on Ben even during night 1 from the whispers, how’s he gonna get out of this lol
ah yes, oily balls, my favourite new year's snack!
great game, well done! lovely to watch 👏
The definition of a shifty looking cow. 🐄
The only game I've played with a Lord of Typhon I was also the chef with a 3, and also assumed it was vortox or poisoned 😂
I think people can become too used with using the app. In a public game you wouldn't have the option to coordinate all of this evil info on night one. Some rules can be bended or broken of course, but I think the rule that prohibits disclosing your role before the first dawn is fair to let everyone start at the same baseline.
"First night: The night phase that begins the game. Some characters act only during the first night. Some characters act during each night except the first. Players may talk about their characters only after the first night. "
Yeah, I was surprised to see Ben giving his minions their bluffs on night 1. You wouldn't be able to do that in an in person game.
Whose the cow? Ben's the cow.
Behold! The Noble Minotaur!
Awesome game. Absolute joy.
How did Kat find out about Ben's question on who was in a Lord of Typhon line?
Because he told everyone in the game 😂
I ever won with a Lord of Typhon game (I was the Widow), while only the evil's were alive. That was so funny.
Ok, hear me out. In partnership with NRB, how about a Dom Allen Cheese Monger token? Good townsfolk that every night selects a person which gets recorded. If they are able to select the entire baddie team, then the baddies (all or one?) lose their powers for either a night or the rest of the game, thereby confirming there was a cheese monger and also giving like a “no new infections” pandemic sort of evening. If it’s the whole game, it would take three rounds anyway to get the baddies, so it could be a powerful character that doesn’t want to die. With the theme being cheese, figured maybe Dom, ahem, the Cheese Monger, gives them the runs or something as we all know…the baddies are lactose intolerant (jk to those who are). I’d love it to be an evil character to fit more with Dom’s vibe, but he will always be a good cheese monger at heart.
41:34 what a cool looking grim
Moo?
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Typhon seems pretty op with acrobat and tinker in the game, good can end up outnumbered real quick
Unless I'm mistaken, at least on this script, it can't go beyond 4 v 8. - Ben
Day 2 started with 4 living evil and 4 living good. You (Ben) not having had your kill because the monk protected an evil player, and the gossip was wrong. That could easily have been 3 living good 4 living evil at the start of day 2... (I'm assuming an ST wouldn't let it get to 2 good, 4 evil with the gossip killing a good player...)
@@notsolmthe fringe cases where kills escalate are rare though. You need a situation where the conditions are met and no overlaps happen (so a person isn't killed twice or indeed protected).
Point in case had the monk not protected Ben would have killed a minion early on.
What is correct is that this setup calls for discipline with dead votes.
Ah, I see what you mean now. I forget that some folks naturally think in terms of 'dead = eliminated'. I only consider good players out of contention once they've spent their ghost votes. - Ben
Clearly it must be a Vortox game and it is definitely Ben! *task failed successfully*
you should upload Emerald's FT perspective from a recent stream
I guess next are Organ Grinder and Boomdandy)
I have a question that has nothing to do with this script.
Isn't the farmer a bad ability for town, because posible good information roles could become the farmer? Shouldn't it be an outsider? I genuinely don't know enough about BOTC to argue either way, just want to know
Any character that can prove itself to be what it is claiming to be is one of the most powerful characters in the game. In Blood on the Clocktower, certainty is an extremely rare commodity. - Ben
@@BloodontheClocktower thanks!!
If the monk protects a pukka poisoned death does that player stay poisoned or do they become healthy?
They become healthy. The Monk protects against all harmful Demon effects. This includes things like Pukka and No Dashii poisoning, the misinformation caused by the Vortox etc.
- Ben
@@BloodontheClocktower oooh, very cool! Thank you
MoOooOoo!