Behind the Design - The AWD El Caminos Pushrod Suspension Explained!

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  • @87mustang347
    @87mustang347 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This channel is under rated. Glad to be here. This build is awesome

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@87mustang347 thank you my friend! I am just stoked the videos are getting smoother now hhaha

  • @mikes2876
    @mikes2876 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Don, do you realize how many times I had to stop to breathe, while holding my breath, waiting for the next episode to come out?! Geez!!! Love this content!

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hahahaah well that makes all the pain of editing go away. I appreciate it mike!

  • @Jamie-ig9vo
    @Jamie-ig9vo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This build is so freaking awesome!

  • @Copoc10
    @Copoc10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I enjoyed watching the process, looks great!

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahhhh my man! Thank you!

  • @umvr
    @umvr 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have been trying to catch up on all the episodes, this has been great!

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@umvr why thank you!!

  • @johndough1218
    @johndough1218 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow !

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@johndough1218 thanks buddy!

  • @matswallsten1628
    @matswallsten1628 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice job! I like the way you go about figuring it out, not to scientific. Thinking and trying it out..

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@matswallsten1628 yea i usually stare at it for 3 hours and dream in my mind then I start recording once I have my direction lol. But I am glad you enjoy the process!

  • @immortalcars5256
    @immortalcars5256 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    such a sick episode! I cant wait for new uploads. Great work!

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks immortal!! I appreciate it!!

  • @gamegoodman9064
    @gamegoodman9064 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't wait to see the next video.
    (Fc from thailand)❤

  • @ideabrickworks9043
    @ideabrickworks9043 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just found you! Now I am caught up. Love your work and looking forward to the adventure. You have an infectious laugh and a great attitude! If we aren’t having fun, why would we do it!

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ideabrickworks9043 my friend that means a lot! Glad you are now with us for the journey!! Let’s get rocking my friend!

  • @jasonfikes9514
    @jasonfikes9514 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nicely done sir. Throughly enjoying the build series. ✌️😁

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jasonfikes9514 thank you Jason!! Means a lot my friend!

  • @lukelikens2057
    @lukelikens2057 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't wait to see it setting on the ground

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahhh that is going to be the day!

  • @designbuilddrive
    @designbuilddrive 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    looking good buddy!

  • @tjjared9499
    @tjjared9499 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this was a banger dude... the math that goes in to that is crazy should look sweet when its done tho!

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tjjared9499 thanks TJ!!! You going to sema this year

    • @tjjared9499
      @tjjared9499 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RetroFabworks Man.... i wish but nope maybe some day

  • @Coffe-
    @Coffe- หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice work man! Starting in empty space is really hard sometimes. 🤙

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Coffe- it’s been a journey! But every time a piece comes together I get incredibly inspired. And it makes me want to do more. I just need more time haha

  • @TinkerDesignWorks
    @TinkerDesignWorks 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    that arm screams "make me look like a t-rex!" the shape is so close

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TinkerDesignWorks hahaha nooooo now I have to design it again just because of the shape!

    • @TinkerDesignWorks
      @TinkerDesignWorks 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @RetroFabworks or just get it fibre laser engraved after it's machined. Loving the build btw, keep up the good work!

  • @RonRussell-sj1zf
    @RonRussell-sj1zf 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Getting a little punchy there at the end! Nice work, I like the looks of the fabricated arm.

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RonRussell-sj1zf haha do you mean with the editing ?
      If so I was trying to get rid of all the dead spots since the video was turning into a Christopher Nolan edit haha

  • @EdwardDockery
    @EdwardDockery หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    👍🏼👍🏼

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdwardDockery thank you Edward!

  • @davidozey3610
    @davidozey3610 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did sorta similar work autocad design at shipyard. I think if in your original mockup had you measured your pivot for shock and had its bottom top (throw) length and drew bot circles at its pivot you could pick your output angle. Maybe. I don’t know. This stuff is fun to figure out. 2 cents!

  • @Danicki1
    @Danicki1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really nice Video, thank you. But i think i found an potential Issue. What happens is you change the Settings of your Caster? If you gonna move your lower control arm to the front or rear, the Bearings start to bind. Or am i wrong? Sorry for my bad english. But best wishes from Bavaria.

  • @DHautoworks
    @DHautoworks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    cant wait to see whats next don, so exited!!! also what system are you going to use for the differentiation between the front and rear driveshafts, thanks!

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DHautoworks me too !! And thank you ! Do you mean what’s going to make it awd? Or the drive shaft orientation my friend.

  • @ExecutiveAutomotiveSociety
    @ExecutiveAutomotiveSociety หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Smooth.

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ExecutiveAutomotiveSociety thank you sir!

  • @woznaldo
    @woznaldo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now I know you said it wasn’t going to be NASA level but, one other thing to consider is the angles between the pushrod and the control arm, the pushrod and the rocker and the damper and the rocker. Going toward 90 deg is rising rate and going away is falling. The combination of all of these will give the true falling or rising combined. Yours doesn’t look to bad.

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@woznaldo so I took the coil over angle and dived the amount and got the rocker out put angle. Which got me the shape and the cleanest drive into the coil over. But one thing I am thinking about is moving my input closer and moving my coil over closer to try and take some size out of bellcrank. Heading back today to stare at it for a few hours ha!

    • @woznaldo
      @woznaldo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RetroFabworks agree. Taking convenient pickups doesn’t always make it useful. Looking forward to seeing how it all progresses.

  • @dreece2000
    @dreece2000 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What did the steering knuckle come off of

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Shop part max is the company who makes them !

  • @dopeyiniraq
    @dopeyiniraq หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only issue i for see is u dnt have the lower spring perch or is that accounted for

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dopeyiniraq yea I had the perch on the table and the coil and it was checked so we are good on that one. I am thinking now of moving my input closer and trying to shave off a few inches off the total design. Heading back to the shop today to play with it more 😀

  • @stinkeyecustoms
    @stinkeyecustoms 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    But if your input and output lengths are now different that has changed your 1:1 ratio correct?

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@stinkeyecustoms yea it was just my verbiage that was off.
      The rocker itself is not 1.1 but the lower control arm rebound and compression are equal to the same rebound and compression on the coil over
      Hope that clarifies

    • @stinkeyecustoms
      @stinkeyecustoms 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RetroFabworks Ah ha! Ok man I gotcha now. Can't wait to see what's coming up!

  • @garywoodard5759
    @garywoodard5759 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12:40 i'm an engineer - i work with what i got.....a 1964 el camino!

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@garywoodard5759 no way you have one too!?

    • @garywoodard5759
      @garywoodard5759 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RetroFabworks and a 68 el C too

  • @skyfreakwi
    @skyfreakwi 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You keep mentioning keeping everything equal... I don't think you are looking at it the right way basically as I see it you need your shock to be over 90°to the pivot at full droop slightly then as you compress it the ratio will rise giving you a progressive suspension. It will get stiffer the further it goes up until 90°then softer and you'll over center the whole thing. Avoid that. The location of your push rod becomes semantics at that point or pull rod off you want to reverse it. It's just applying load to incite rotation. It looks like you have it pretty well figured out though I tried watching the end 40 times but really can't see the distances traveled by the spindle and the shock end. I always think about it like a motorcycle swingarm if you lean the top shock pivot back behind the lower pivot it will turn to mush.i like that you are building equal travel it should be less on the shock at the beginning and lots of shock action at the end. My.02¢

  • @Gerald5000
    @Gerald5000 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    isn't pushrod suspension to save space, or to fit in tight spaces? You could easily fit a coilover in there traditionally, so are you making a lot of work for yourself just for the aesthetics?

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Gerald5000 you are totally correct. I played with the idea of doing vertical like you said and It just did not sit well.
      As the chassis started to come together and take shape the idea of the coil overs being mounted in the nodes made a lot of sense. Structurally and aesthetically. That’s when I pulled the trigger on this journey! Hope that helped with how it came about.

    • @Gerald5000
      @Gerald5000 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RetroFabworks Fair enough.

  • @EdwardGoss-n9u
    @EdwardGoss-n9u 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why that’s the question

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EdwardGoss-n9u why not is what you should be really asking haha

  • @lunkydog
    @lunkydog 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    4" radius circle, not a 4" circle.

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lunkydog thank you for the correction sir.😀

  • @mattzembower2042
    @mattzembower2042 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Watching your video makes me think of a Monkey F-ing a Slide rule, looks like he’s doing something technical, but honestly doesn’t have an idea how it actually works!

    • @RetroFabworks
      @RetroFabworks  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mattzembower2042 hahaha thanks for the input my friend

  • @BeaterJeep
    @BeaterJeep 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    People out here just naming old things…… new names……