Don, do you realize how many times I had to stop to breathe, while holding my breath, waiting for the next episode to come out?! Geez!!! Love this content!
@@natelarson5747 it’s something you have to see In person to appreciate but the 1st year of the Elcamino is mind boggling pretty and weird all wrapped up in one!
Just found you! Now I am caught up. Love your work and looking forward to the adventure. You have an infectious laugh and a great attitude! If we aren’t having fun, why would we do it!
@@Coffe- it’s been a journey! But every time a piece comes together I get incredibly inspired. And it makes me want to do more. I just need more time haha
@@matswallsten1628 yea i usually stare at it for 3 hours and dream in my mind then I start recording once I have my direction lol. But I am glad you enjoy the process!
cant wait to see whats next don, so exited!!! also what system are you going to use for the differentiation between the front and rear driveshafts, thanks!
@@RonRussell-sj1zf haha do you mean with the editing ? If so I was trying to get rid of all the dead spots since the video was turning into a Christopher Nolan edit haha
You keep mentioning keeping everything equal... I don't think you are looking at it the right way basically as I see it you need your shock to be over 90°to the pivot at full droop slightly then as you compress it the ratio will rise giving you a progressive suspension. It will get stiffer the further it goes up until 90°then softer and you'll over center the whole thing. Avoid that. The location of your push rod becomes semantics at that point or pull rod off you want to reverse it. It's just applying load to incite rotation. It looks like you have it pretty well figured out though I tried watching the end 40 times but really can't see the distances traveled by the spindle and the shock end. I always think about it like a motorcycle swingarm if you lean the top shock pivot back behind the lower pivot it will turn to mush.i like that you are building equal travel it should be less on the shock at the beginning and lots of shock action at the end. My.02¢
Now I know you said it wasn’t going to be NASA level but, one other thing to consider is the angles between the pushrod and the control arm, the pushrod and the rocker and the damper and the rocker. Going toward 90 deg is rising rate and going away is falling. The combination of all of these will give the true falling or rising combined. Yours doesn’t look to bad.
@@woznaldo so I took the coil over angle and dived the amount and got the rocker out put angle. Which got me the shape and the cleanest drive into the coil over. But one thing I am thinking about is moving my input closer and moving my coil over closer to try and take some size out of bellcrank. Heading back today to stare at it for a few hours ha!
Did sorta similar work autocad design at shipyard. I think if in your original mockup had you measured your pivot for shock and had its bottom top (throw) length and drew bot circles at its pivot you could pick your output angle. Maybe. I don’t know. This stuff is fun to figure out. 2 cents!
Really nice Video, thank you. But i think i found an potential Issue. What happens is you change the Settings of your Caster? If you gonna move your lower control arm to the front or rear, the Bearings start to bind. Or am i wrong? Sorry for my bad english. But best wishes from Bavaria.
@@stinkeyecustoms yea it was just my verbiage that was off. The rocker itself is not 1.1 but the lower control arm rebound and compression are equal to the same rebound and compression on the coil over Hope that clarifies
@@dopeyiniraq yea I had the perch on the table and the coil and it was checked so we are good on that one. I am thinking now of moving my input closer and trying to shave off a few inches off the total design. Heading back to the shop today to play with it more 😀
isn't pushrod suspension to save space, or to fit in tight spaces? You could easily fit a coilover in there traditionally, so are you making a lot of work for yourself just for the aesthetics?
@@Gerald5000 you are totally correct. I played with the idea of doing vertical like you said and It just did not sit well. As the chassis started to come together and take shape the idea of the coil overs being mounted in the nodes made a lot of sense. Structurally and aesthetically. That’s when I pulled the trigger on this journey! Hope that helped with how it came about.
@@ronmckee8132 it might be deceiving in the videos but it has a 2.5 inch ride height and it’s not made for drifting it’s made for racing 😀 but it will be able to uncouple the front wheels based on wheel speed so I can lock up the rear wheels.
Watching your video makes me think of a Monkey F-ing a Slide rule, looks like he’s doing something technical, but honestly doesn’t have an idea how it actually works!
This channel is under rated. Glad to be here. This build is awesome
@@87mustang347 thank you my friend! I am just stoked the videos are getting smoother now hhaha
Don, do you realize how many times I had to stop to breathe, while holding my breath, waiting for the next episode to come out?! Geez!!! Love this content!
Hahahaah well that makes all the pain of editing go away. I appreciate it mike!
A 1959 Elcamino? My favorite vehicle!
love watching the process ! im looking forward to you changing my mind about Elcaminos
@@natelarson5747 it’s something you have to see In person to appreciate but the 1st year of the Elcamino is mind boggling pretty and weird all wrapped up in one!
This build is so freaking awesome!
Thanks Jamie!
I have been trying to catch up on all the episodes, this has been great!
@@umvr why thank you!!
I enjoyed watching the process, looks great!
Ahhhh my man! Thank you!
such a sick episode! I cant wait for new uploads. Great work!
Thanks immortal!! I appreciate it!!
Just found this channel! Don, I like your builds. I like your thought process. SUBSCRIBED!
@@Brads_RCs yeeehaaa! Thank you my friend!
Just found you! Now I am caught up. Love your work and looking forward to the adventure. You have an infectious laugh and a great attitude! If we aren’t having fun, why would we do it!
@@ideabrickworks9043 my friend that means a lot! Glad you are now with us for the journey!! Let’s get rocking my friend!
I will be doing this soon so thank you!
Nicely done sir. Throughly enjoying the build series. ✌️😁
@@jasonfikes9514 thank you Jason!! Means a lot my friend!
Can't wait to see the next video.
(Fc from thailand)❤
Coming soon!
Can't wait to see it setting on the ground
Ahhh that is going to be the day!
Nice work man! Starting in empty space is really hard sometimes. 🤙
@@Coffe- it’s been a journey! But every time a piece comes together I get incredibly inspired. And it makes me want to do more. I just need more time haha
Nice job! I like the way you go about figuring it out, not to scientific. Thinking and trying it out..
@@matswallsten1628 yea i usually stare at it for 3 hours and dream in my mind then I start recording once I have my direction lol. But I am glad you enjoy the process!
this was a banger dude... the math that goes in to that is crazy should look sweet when its done tho!
@@tjjared9499 thanks TJ!!! You going to sema this year
@@RetroFabworks Man.... i wish but nope maybe some day
Wow !
@@johndough1218 thanks buddy!
that arm screams "make me look like a t-rex!" the shape is so close
@@TinkerDesignWorks hahaha nooooo now I have to design it again just because of the shape!
@RetroFabworks or just get it fibre laser engraved after it's machined. Loving the build btw, keep up the good work!
looking good buddy!
Thanks Mitch!!!
Im planning of doing a pushrod style suspension on my 1969 (nice) c10!😎
cant wait to see whats next don, so exited!!! also what system are you going to use for the differentiation between the front and rear driveshafts, thanks!
@@DHautoworks me too !! And thank you ! Do you mean what’s going to make it awd? Or the drive shaft orientation my friend.
Smooth.
@@ExecutiveAutomotiveSociety thank you sir!
👍🏼👍🏼
@@EdwardDockery thank you Edward!
Getting a little punchy there at the end! Nice work, I like the looks of the fabricated arm.
@@RonRussell-sj1zf haha do you mean with the editing ?
If so I was trying to get rid of all the dead spots since the video was turning into a Christopher Nolan edit haha
If you were to connect the two horizontal coilovers could you eliminate the need for a swaybar?
You keep mentioning keeping everything equal... I don't think you are looking at it the right way basically as I see it you need your shock to be over 90°to the pivot at full droop slightly then as you compress it the ratio will rise giving you a progressive suspension. It will get stiffer the further it goes up until 90°then softer and you'll over center the whole thing. Avoid that. The location of your push rod becomes semantics at that point or pull rod off you want to reverse it. It's just applying load to incite rotation. It looks like you have it pretty well figured out though I tried watching the end 40 times but really can't see the distances traveled by the spindle and the shock end. I always think about it like a motorcycle swingarm if you lean the top shock pivot back behind the lower pivot it will turn to mush.i like that you are building equal travel it should be less on the shock at the beginning and lots of shock action at the end. My.02¢
I don't think the 1:1 ratio comes from where on the circle you mount it, that comes from the distance to the pivot point.
Now I know you said it wasn’t going to be NASA level but, one other thing to consider is the angles between the pushrod and the control arm, the pushrod and the rocker and the damper and the rocker. Going toward 90 deg is rising rate and going away is falling. The combination of all of these will give the true falling or rising combined. Yours doesn’t look to bad.
@@woznaldo so I took the coil over angle and dived the amount and got the rocker out put angle. Which got me the shape and the cleanest drive into the coil over. But one thing I am thinking about is moving my input closer and moving my coil over closer to try and take some size out of bellcrank. Heading back today to stare at it for a few hours ha!
@@RetroFabworks agree. Taking convenient pickups doesn’t always make it useful. Looking forward to seeing how it all progresses.
Did sorta similar work autocad design at shipyard. I think if in your original mockup had you measured your pivot for shock and had its bottom top (throw) length and drew bot circles at its pivot you could pick your output angle. Maybe. I don’t know. This stuff is fun to figure out. 2 cents!
What did the steering knuckle come off of
Shop part max is the company who makes them !
Really nice Video, thank you. But i think i found an potential Issue. What happens is you change the Settings of your Caster? If you gonna move your lower control arm to the front or rear, the Bearings start to bind. Or am i wrong? Sorry for my bad english. But best wishes from Bavaria.
12:40 i'm an engineer - i work with what i got.....a 1964 el camino!
@@garywoodard5759 no way you have one too!?
@@RetroFabworks and a 68 el C too
But if your input and output lengths are now different that has changed your 1:1 ratio correct?
@@stinkeyecustoms yea it was just my verbiage that was off.
The rocker itself is not 1.1 but the lower control arm rebound and compression are equal to the same rebound and compression on the coil over
Hope that clarifies
@@RetroFabworks Ah ha! Ok man I gotcha now. Can't wait to see what's coming up!
Only issue i for see is u dnt have the lower spring perch or is that accounted for
@@dopeyiniraq yea I had the perch on the table and the coil and it was checked so we are good on that one. I am thinking now of moving my input closer and trying to shave off a few inches off the total design. Heading back to the shop today to play with it more 😀
People out here just naming old things…… new names……
”finsihed” 😇 (i am just trying to be in the next mean comments video 😁)
isn't pushrod suspension to save space, or to fit in tight spaces? You could easily fit a coilover in there traditionally, so are you making a lot of work for yourself just for the aesthetics?
@@Gerald5000 you are totally correct. I played with the idea of doing vertical like you said and It just did not sit well.
As the chassis started to come together and take shape the idea of the coil overs being mounted in the nodes made a lot of sense. Structurally and aesthetically. That’s when I pulled the trigger on this journey! Hope that helped with how it came about.
@@RetroFabworks Fair enough.
We called it a cantilever suspension
4" radius circle, not a 4" circle.
@@lunkydog thank you for the correction sir.😀
AWD ,,,, going to assume its a drift car
( not a fan )
My priority would have been to lower center of gravity:):):)
@@ronmckee8132 it might be deceiving in the videos but it has a 2.5 inch ride height and it’s not made for drifting it’s made for racing 😀 but it will be able to uncouple the front wheels based on wheel speed so I can lock up the rear wheels.
Why that’s the question
@@EdwardGoss-n9u why not is what you should be really asking haha
Watching your video makes me think of a Monkey F-ing a Slide rule, looks like he’s doing something technical, but honestly doesn’t have an idea how it actually works!
@@mattzembower2042 hahaha thanks for the input my friend