Great video, i love it. But i am sorry, the is simply NO WAY why Japan whould lauch an attack on Pearl Harbor. With indochina and without an embargo from the Britsh, or even the Dutch or the USA, Japan would have enough resources to attack China. The invasion of the far east, the Army branch would be strengthen and Yamomoto whould not have the resources to attack.
Agreed. And to add to this, after essentially every major Chinese port was seized by Japan, most allied resources went through the Burma Road, controlled by the British. Since Britain and Japan are allies in this timeline, that route would be cut off, so there's simply no way for the Americans to send a significant amount of resources to China and aid them. There's absolutely no way they would have bombed Pearl Harbour in this timeline.
I agree. And why would the British even support a nation who’s actively committing genocide in China as well as experimenting on Chinese Civilians in Manchuria?
Yeah I assume he just wanted the scenario to be longer than “uk blockades Europe, Germany uses tanks and destroys the axis end” , but (as a German myself, small bias) it would’ve likely been more smooth and satisfying ish for a resurgent democratic Germany
"the best" videos are when I started to like mapping and when i couldnt understand english as a whole. they are basicly Czech dub AHOE and series from Czech mappers. They are not special in some amazing edits like this one but those that i watched as a kid
I think instead of Wilson letting Austria unite with Germany, he would let them have a plebiscite instead, which sounds a lot more reasonable and in line with Wilson's self determination stuff, this would also help vorarlberg in joining the Swiss This would also be a baller hoi4 alt hist mod
this was incredibly amazing. The amount of thought and detail is incredible. loved it! i would love a part 2 (someone should make a hoi4 mod out of this)
I really enjoyed this, although I do feel like there would be much more political and social resistance to America joining the Latin Axis but who knows. Also, maybe it's just because I'm used to standard WW2, but it felt like way more countries than realistically plausible joined the war. Still an absolutely amazing video though, glad I stumbled upon this.
Link to the maps I use as reference in description. However, I still have to make my own maps out of the png's since I have to animate things in After Effects
Hey, I'm the TH-cam member mentioned in the credits. I'm sorry, but I won't be able to make monthly payments because I don't have a steady source of income since I'm a minor. But I hope that the little I gave helps. Thanks for your amazing work .
@@LoreDad haha, yeah pearl harbour happening seemed a bit iffy but I will admit that it makes the scenario alot more fun. The thing that really got me though was how Australia and New Zealand switched sides. I'm from new Zealand and I personally think that it would take more to make something as drastic as that happen. Again, fantastic video nonetheless!
Absolutely incredible project! Can’t wait to see what you cook up for season 2. And though I’m not much of a Discord guy, I just might have to give it a shot for this project
I came from the “Not Realism” video, this is an excellent alternate history scenario and video! In regards to the UK I’d predict the eventual dissolution of the United Kingdom, allow me to explain. Inspired by Irish unification and having experienced occupation from both British Governments, as well as the much more lenient Labour being in charge; Scotland’s desire for more freedoms would be much more prevalent in this timeline, this would likely result in Labour giving them a Parliament much quicker than they did in our timeline. The toll the war would take on the British population and general upset at Westminster’s past incompetence would lead to an earlier Scottish independence referendum, I believe if this happened earlier (even in our own timeline) the referendum would just narrowly pass. Scottish Independence would be catastrophic for the UK government in the aftermath of this WW2, independence sentiment would sweep across the much weaker Britain resulting in reliance on Germany or collapse. I may be biased as I am Scottish, so take this with a grain of salt.
Brazil would not join Latin axis, im a Brazilian myself, and while Vargas was playing both sides, Brazil and Germany were great trading partners, and even the population would not have been interested in a war, and Vargas was smart enough to realize that if he joined the latin axis, Brazil would be just a country under USA dominance, which Vargas would definitely not want to happen, as even if he was a dictator, he wouldn't really want to join latin axis, its like Japan in this time line, dictatorship, but allied with the allies, since japanese interests would be guaranteed if they joined the allies, i see Brazil doing the same thing.
In the beginning, Brazil had good relations with Germany until later when the Royal Navy in OTL blockaded Germany and Italy. In this timeline, the same thing would play out, except the US Navy would be the ones that are enforcing the blockade. Brazil's economy depended on agricultural exports and industrial imports and Vargas wanted investments to create industries in Brazil. With the blockade of Germany, Brazilian exports went only to the US. Germany can't offer anything to Brazil because of the blockade, while the US, which already had a strong Prescence in South America , offered investments. Vargas would've demand investments in steel making in Brazil and the US did that as a form of exchange with greater alignment towards the Latin Axis. Plus, the Saxon Allies weren't in a position to aid Brazil, whereas the US was right there with a growing army and large navy. Brazil's arms industry was also underdeveloped, certainly by comparison to the main parties to the war. To even participate on the Allies side the Brazilians had to be fitted out by the US. From a military-strategic point of view Brazil's position, joining the Saxon Allies is hopeless. Because one, the American Navy's presence in the Atlantic would've made it near impossible for Germany to send Military and Economic Aid to the region. Second, the Americans had already made naval invasions of Britain as well as advancing through Northern France. The main focus would be fighting the Latin Axis, not helping Brazil.
@@LoreDad it’s in development for now, but I’ve worked on mods that have released in the past (Der Bruderkrieg for example) so I think I can release it some time. There is no name yet but it’s codenamed „Project Interbellum”
So, I haven't watched more than the first two minutes of this yet, but I have to say, the answer to the question at 1:45 seems pretty obvious. I mean, once post-WWI USA commits to one side in a total war, the winner's pretty much decided, isn't it?
Would the Salazarist government in Portugal really still respect the British alliance against Franco? Even after supporting them in the Spanish Civil War? This era is full of betrayal and non-commitment, so it's not out of place for Portugal to choose neutrality.
Still waiting for the day that somebody decides to make all these amazing (mostly TH-camr made) alternate history scenarios into feature films. Because lines on maps are amazing but we need actual scenes and acting! Hell if I had money I might just invest in it.
I really love this scenario and I'm suprised it has so little views but I don't really understand why Poland and later Intermarium is so underrepresented on the eastern front, you only seem to mention german soldiers in there while I feel like the Intermarium could have more manpower than Germany
my thoughts exactly! Also, I hope the nation would democratise soon after the war... I hate seeing my brothers being non-democratic. Poland would be a lot more prominent in this war than it was in our timeline, and I could imagine them having a lot larger influence in the final peace conference. I also really fucking hate this whole Intermarium idea of annexing Ukraine. It is an insanely stupid idea, looking at how Yugoslavia turned out, but hey, I guess alternative Śmigły-Rydz didn't have foresight☠️
No side is good or bad like our timeline. The saxsons nuked staling rad, but they ware democracys. The Latin axis was similarly complicated when the US joined them.
Hey, sorry about the intro. There was an editing error putting the trailer section in the beginning of the Movie composite. After the intro ends, and the first chapter begins, it should be a lot better.
Me at the beginning: damn this is a cool scenario Me when Japan still attacked Pearl Harbor: What the fuck Me when they explained the reasoning: This is as dumb as saying "somehow, Palpatine returned" There is literally no convincing enough reason that a Japanese Empire that is not starving for resources like in OTL, because they have access to the entire British Empire resources, would deliberately attack the US. Well as long as the Saxon Allies still destroy the Latin Axis or at the very least it ends in a Cold War (I haven't finished the video), then sure; but that was the dumbest part of this scenario
I screamed “NO” and almost cried while watching this video I think you can probably tell what country I’m from with that information and my profile picture
This was a fun alt hist but it seems strange that japan would still preform pearl harbor. Without america it seems the war would have been done by the 30min mark
I was fucking praying that Poland won't annex Ukraine and just agree to the German terms. Way better to have the corridor than govern a land full of Ukrainians who really don't won't be ruled by non-Ukrainians... In our timeline it turned out horrible, and in this one Poland is on it's way to becoming Yugoslavia 2.0
But unlike Serbs in Yugoslavia, Poles are large majority and potentially could have capabilities to destroy any separatists revolt. Although it would be interesting to see how war of Ukrainian independence against polanization would occur in TTL, especially if Russia will get itself involved...
yo @LoreDad, this has a hard beginning and its really good, but halfway you just make the US becoming the main character and getting territory for absolutely no reason. I know I sound biased since I'm both Canadian and Quebecois in particular, i feel like this could have so much more. Don't make the US invade Canada for no reason, and the reason you gave (Japan joining the allies) was weak since Japan's genocidal imperialism did not watch well with Britain's and alternate Germanys policies.
@@LoreDad Wow! You replied. I was gonna take a bath and I watch videos taking a bath, so I made this timeframe so I could put it exactly on my tablet so I could continue.
Parando pra pensar agora, eu acho que os japoneses não iria entrar em guerra contra a união soviética já que eles temiam os soviéticos principalmente após a derrota japonesa na batalha de Khalkhin Gol. Além de que o exército japonês já ta estendido demais contra a china
Hot Take: Anschluss and the Sudetenland were mostly justified and reasonable if the German regime at that time had been a reasonable one (which it obviously wasn't, I don't need to explain). Czechoslovakia was politically dominated by Czechs while Slovaks, Poles, Hungarians, Germans, and Ukrainians were heavily discriminated against. Invading the rest of Czechoslovakia however was mostly an act of aggression and imperialism which I obviously do not support.
For number 1 it would just mean that it takes longer for Ottomans to fall an possibly are a greater asset to germans in WW2, in Option 2 it honestly wouldn't change that much because either way In WW1 they still would just be an extension of the front to lower the focus on the european front
there can be slight changes that alter the ending for the ottomans like by not allowing the German sailors to attack the Russians form the black sea which would keep them out of the war@@KiraiKatsuji
@@soudino2723 Yeah i get that but it wouldn't have any serious change in the end just a slightly different war that wouldn't make the end that much different from our own
Eu nunca vi mais eu sempre queria ver um vídeo de: se o golpe da cervejaria de Hitler tivesse dado certo? (Acho que isso aconteceu em 1923). Acredito que essa ideia é interessante e novidade já que ninguém nunca fez um vídeo disso
I dont see how italy would all of a sudden have the industry to support the war and be useful if germany got austria and the Italians financially supported franco
I don’t get it, Japan attacks Pearl Harbor, USA declare war on Japan only, people of USA only want to fight Japan, Eisenhower say British help Japan in Pearl Harbor but the US people still don’t want to fight British??? This makes no sense. It would make a lot more sense for Germany and USA to make their own faction, with UK and Japan left in the “Saxon alliance”, instead of the USA to join the axis, and for the Germans British and Japanese to be in the same alliance.
1:38:17 I noticed a historical/game parallel to a HOI4 game i did recently as Germany, I captured Moscow as German Kingdom, with the help of 79% of Europe (fuck italy) and were stuck trying to get to Stalingrad
Dude, there is no way the United States would ever have joined the Latin axis. They were powerful enough to fight and stand on their own. Even if they couldn't topple Germany and Britain, they could easily take canada, the caribbean, and the pacific, and then just hold forever. None of that requires any kind of collaboration with hostile foreign governments
this timeline makes no sense. Why would Japan still attack the US? Would the UK not have negotiated with the US to lift the embargo or at least maintained that the US was off limits?
This is a fair critique. I admit that Japan bombing Pearl Harbor was the least plausible aspect of project stresa. However I believe the British would have accepted this plan in order to quickly secure China I like your uk negotiate with USA to lift japans embargo idea. That would have been a good solution
Eu acho que talvez a Turquia ainda ficaria neutra ou se juntaria ao eixo, já que a Turquia está basicamente cercada pelo eixo e pela situação da guerra no momento que a Turquia entrou nos aliados. Um dos motivos pra eu acreditar que a Turquia ficaria neutra ou entraria nesse eixo é a união soviética, já que até na nossa realidade um dos motivos da Turquia não ter entrado no eixo foi a união soviética
Proof positive that the Alternate History side of TH-cam is both starved for creators that haven't turned to either the far left or far right and political commentary and that our brain is easily manipulated through "Ohhh look, pretty map!!". This is somehow both 'Alt History like fantasy football' (having Montgomery and Rommel together, whatever the hell that the UESR is) and halfway good.
Great video, i love it. But i am sorry, the is simply NO WAY why Japan whould lauch an attack on Pearl Harbor. With indochina and without an embargo from the Britsh, or even the Dutch or the USA, Japan would have enough resources to attack China. The invasion of the far east, the Army branch would be strengthen and Yamomoto whould not have the resources to attack.
Agreed. And to add to this, after essentially every major Chinese port was seized by Japan, most allied resources went through the Burma Road, controlled by the British. Since Britain and Japan are allies in this timeline, that route would be cut off, so there's simply no way for the Americans to send a significant amount of resources to China and aid them. There's absolutely no way they would have bombed Pearl Harbour in this timeline.
For sure, and I don’t understand how on earth the British wouldn’t just kick Japan out of the faction at that point.
I agree. And why would the British even support a nation who’s actively committing genocide in China as well as experimenting on Chinese Civilians in Manchuria?
there are a couple of ways to make it happen but the video gives the exact opposite of them.
Yeah I assume he just wanted the scenario to be longer than “uk blockades Europe, Germany uses tanks and destroys the axis end” , but (as a German myself, small bias) it would’ve likely been more smooth and satisfying ish for a resurgent democratic Germany
P.O.V. : Hoi4 with no faction ideology rules
POV: if the world forgot that it was the 20th century and that alliances have to be civilized.
thas what im sayin
I DEMAND A EXPLENATION FOR WHY THIS VIDEO IS NOT VIRAL! THIS VIDEO IS SO GOOD!
Lol, it's shit
@@Tommi414 no
@@juanraStudios yep
@@Tommi414can you do something better?
@@AscendShadow considering this is just a random hoi4 fanfic, almost anyone can
watch it in one sitting, i can say it is one of the best alternative video on internet as a whole
One of the best?I need you tell me which others to watch it
"the best" videos are when I started to like mapping and when i couldnt understand english as a whole. they are basicly Czech dub AHOE and series from Czech mappers. They are not special in some amazing edits like this one but those that i watched as a kid
@@nattees Oh, ok
I was just thinking and remembered Zvallid. Try that the quality is overall worse but there are a lot of videos and a lot of ideas
OK@@nattees
can't believe I just watched a 3 hour-video, this was fantastic!
unfortunately gonna miss the premiere because i have an exam but will definitely watch when i can
Ok ligme5
@@FodaseNaoLigo q
Ok I don't care
how'd it go?
@@cavemanhistory pretty great
Woodrow Wilson: *arrives at St. Germain*
World: goes nuts
I think instead of Wilson letting Austria unite with Germany, he would let them have a plebiscite instead, which sounds a lot more reasonable and in line with Wilson's self determination stuff, this would also help vorarlberg in joining the Swiss
This would also be a baller hoi4 alt hist mod
Omg I didn't even think of that but you're so right! Actually seems reasonably balanced and fun!
this was incredibly amazing. The amount of thought and detail is incredible. loved it!
i would love a part 2
(someone should make a hoi4 mod out of this)
I am so happy it’s now a movie and I don’t have to watch all of the (I believe) 14 videos. I really enjoyed it
I really enjoyed this, although I do feel like there would be much more political and social resistance to America joining the Latin Axis but who knows. Also, maybe it's just because I'm used to standard WW2, but it felt like way more countries than realistically plausible joined the war. Still an absolutely amazing video though, glad I stumbled upon this.
This was magnificient, would love a continuation as a cold war scenario!
Where does he get his maps?
Link to the maps I use as reference in description. However, I still have to make my own maps out of the png's since I have to animate things in After Effects
Hey, I'm the TH-cam member mentioned in the credits. I'm sorry, but I won't be able to make monthly payments because I don't have a steady source of income since I'm a minor. But I hope that the little I gave helps. Thanks for your amazing work .
I am extremely grateful for your support, even if it is only for the month! Thank you very much!
@@LoreDad yo i just gotta say this video is fucking awesome dude keep it up
amazing detail! this is a fantastic video. however i feel that some areas of this scenario were criminally unrealistic.
Thanks a lot! Which ones in particular? I’d imagine one is Japan and Pearl Harbor is one of them
@@LoreDad haha, yeah pearl harbour happening seemed a bit iffy but I will admit that it makes the scenario alot more fun. The thing that really got me though was how Australia and New Zealand switched sides. I'm from new Zealand and I personally think that it would take more to make something as drastic as that happen.
Again, fantastic video nonetheless!
All of this was because Germany got Austria.
it was because of the treaty
Absolutely incredible project! Can’t wait to see what you cook up for season 2. And though I’m not much of a Discord guy, I just might have to give it a shot for this project
Omg I’m so exited! Hope there’s a good after math!
This is awesome keep up the great work dude 👍
I came from the “Not Realism” video, this is an excellent alternate history scenario and video!
In regards to the UK I’d predict the eventual dissolution of the United Kingdom, allow me to explain. Inspired by Irish unification and having experienced occupation from both British Governments, as well as the much more lenient Labour being in charge; Scotland’s desire for more freedoms would be much more prevalent in this timeline, this would likely result in Labour giving them a Parliament much quicker than they did in our timeline. The toll the war would take on the British population and general upset at Westminster’s past incompetence would lead to an earlier Scottish independence referendum, I believe if this happened earlier (even in our own timeline) the referendum would just narrowly pass. Scottish Independence would be catastrophic for the UK government in the aftermath of this WW2, independence sentiment would sweep across the much weaker Britain resulting in reliance on Germany or collapse.
I may be biased as I am Scottish, so take this with a grain of salt.
I watch the series and now going to watch the movie
Same
same
same
Loved every second of it, congrats for this movie like video
Thank you very much!
YOOOOOOOO THIS IS FUCKING INSANE WE NEEED A HOI4 MOD!!!
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Brazil would not join Latin axis, im a Brazilian myself, and while Vargas was playing both sides, Brazil and Germany were great trading partners, and even the population would not have been interested in a war, and Vargas was smart enough to realize that if he joined the latin axis, Brazil would be just a country under USA dominance, which Vargas would definitely not want to happen, as even if he was a dictator, he wouldn't really want to join latin axis, its like Japan in this time line, dictatorship, but allied with the allies, since japanese interests would be guaranteed if they joined the allies, i see Brazil doing the same thing.
In the beginning, Brazil had good relations with Germany until later when the Royal Navy in OTL blockaded Germany and Italy. In this timeline, the same thing would play out, except the US Navy would be the ones that are enforcing the blockade. Brazil's economy depended on agricultural exports and industrial imports and Vargas wanted investments to create industries in Brazil. With the blockade of Germany, Brazilian exports went only to the US. Germany can't offer anything to Brazil because of the blockade, while the US, which already had a strong Prescence in South America , offered investments. Vargas would've demand investments in steel making in Brazil and the US did that as a form of exchange with greater alignment towards the Latin Axis.
Plus, the Saxon Allies weren't in a position to aid Brazil, whereas the US was right there with a growing army and large navy. Brazil's arms industry was also underdeveloped, certainly by comparison to the main parties to the war. To even participate on the Allies side the Brazilians had to be fitted out by the US. From a military-strategic point of view Brazil's position, joining the Saxon Allies is hopeless. Because one, the American Navy's presence in the Atlantic would've made it near impossible for Germany to send Military and Economic Aid to the region. Second, the Americans had already made naval invasions of Britain as well as advancing through Northern France. The main focus would be fighting the Latin Axis, not helping Brazil.
I LOVE THIS VIDEO! I Watched the whole thing! 10/10
wont be able to watch the premiere...
...because it would be 00:00 (12 PM) in my timezone
Sorry about that! I am on pst and was trying my best to pick a timeframe that would work best for everyone. See you when you wake up!
@@LoreDadoh wow that cool! I’m on pst and early are youtubers are in not here. Keep doing your amazing content and have a good day from California
This is great! hoi4 needs a mod of this
Too true. Someone needs to make a Mod out of this.
@@Jack10930 yeah, but not me cuz I'm working on something else.
No no I didnt want to imply. Im just saying it would be cool if someone dit it.
@@Jack10930 i didn't assume you did, don't worry
based pfp
If a sequel does happen, allow me to propose the title of 'PROJECT: RAGNARÖK.'
Love the work ❤ keep on
Wait I just realized I’ve been working on a mod that is almost identical to this scenario, and just found this video. Holy heck
Which mod?
@@LoreDad it’s in development for now, but I’ve worked on mods that have released in the past (Der Bruderkrieg for example) so I think I can release it some time. There is no name yet but it’s codenamed „Project Interbellum”
So, I haven't watched more than the first two minutes of this yet, but I have to say, the answer to the question at 1:45 seems pretty obvious. I mean, once post-WWI USA commits to one side in a total war, the winner's pretty much decided, isn't it?
U finish the vid lmfao 😂
This is actually very entertaining to watch
Would love to see a season 2.
i love this video
Dude, this video kicks ass. Dugin and Sorel would cream themselves watching it.
It was really incredible.
Thank you very much!
I am at 1:19. The music is too loud. I can barely make out your voice
Yeah that was an editing error. I’m sorry! It gets better after the intro.
The best three hours in my day
Would the Salazarist government in Portugal really still respect the British alliance against Franco? Even after supporting them in the Spanish Civil War?
This era is full of betrayal and non-commitment, so it's not out of place for Portugal to choose neutrality.
Quando vai ser a segunda temporada dessa série? Já se passou muitos meses
First time viewer. Hoping the British alliance/ Saxon one wins 1:31
Still waiting for the day that somebody decides to make all these amazing (mostly TH-camr made) alternate history scenarios into feature films. Because lines on maps are amazing but we need actual scenes and acting! Hell if I had money I might just invest in it.
Great documentary
I really love this scenario and I'm suprised it has so little views but I don't really understand why Poland and later Intermarium is so underrepresented on the eastern front, you only seem to mention german soldiers in there while I feel like the Intermarium could have more manpower than Germany
my thoughts exactly! Also, I hope the nation would democratise soon after the war... I hate seeing my brothers being non-democratic. Poland would be a lot more prominent in this war than it was in our timeline, and I could imagine them having a lot larger influence in the final peace conference. I also really fucking hate this whole Intermarium idea of annexing Ukraine. It is an insanely stupid idea, looking at how Yugoslavia turned out, but hey, I guess alternative Śmigły-Rydz didn't have foresight☠️
@@mastercalabaster9824 Agreed. Intermarium is only greater Poland 2.0
Did you use suzerain music in chapter LXIX
*sigh* you just had to use that as the thumbnail, didn't you
when they were so close to berlin...
before it all went to crap
No side is good or bad like our timeline. The saxsons nuked staling rad, but they ware democracys. The Latin axis was similarly complicated when the US joined them.
wow, this could use a reupload with some sound tinkering, the music is way way way too loud in contrast with the narration
Hey, sorry about the intro. There was an editing error putting the trailer section in the beginning of the Movie composite. After the intro ends, and the first chapter begins, it should be a lot better.
Me at the beginning: damn this is a cool scenario
Me when Japan still attacked Pearl Harbor: What the fuck
Me when they explained the reasoning: This is as dumb as saying "somehow, Palpatine returned"
There is literally no convincing enough reason that a Japanese Empire that is not starving for resources like in OTL, because they have access to the entire British Empire resources, would deliberately attack the US.
Well as long as the Saxon Allies still destroy the Latin Axis or at the very least it ends in a Cold War (I haven't finished the video), then sure; but that was the dumbest part of this scenario
Nice
I can watch this yay!
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I screamed “NO” and almost cried while watching this video I think you can probably tell what country I’m from with that information and my profile picture
Stalin basically suffered the same fate that he had put unto Nicholas II.
Nooooo the USSR has fallen 😢
Edit: Lesss go? USSR is back…
Edit 2: UESR? Lesssss goooooo!
Honestly rooting for UESR Victory if S2 ever comes to fruition.
This was a fun alt hist but it seems strange that japan would still preform pearl harbor. Without america it seems the war would have been done by the 30min mark
Especially when Japan cooperates with Britain... It totally wasn't done to extend the video length or anything
3:05 "how would this affect LeBron's legacy"
only problem with this video is the music is wayyyy too loud
Yeah, sorry about that! It gets better after the trailer. Unless you aren't referring to that.
@@LoreDad yeah np man it got much better quickly i shouldve hesitated before commenting. really great video
00:01 why so serious?
Because it’s worth being serious for something so good
@@LoreDad i was talking about the meme bro🙏😭
Incredible movie
The real leap in logic here is the Italian military being capable.
English, German and Japanese Empires would be literally unstoppable
24:40 (unless this is also alt history) iirc, it was actually poland that started that war irl
I was fucking praying that Poland won't annex Ukraine and just agree to the German terms. Way better to have the corridor than govern a land full of Ukrainians who really don't won't be ruled by non-Ukrainians... In our timeline it turned out horrible, and in this one Poland is on it's way to becoming Yugoslavia 2.0
But unlike Serbs in Yugoslavia, Poles are large majority and potentially could have capabilities to destroy any separatists revolt. Although it would be interesting to see how war of Ukrainian independence against polanization would occur in TTL, especially if Russia will get itself involved...
I’m really sad that you didn’t include the Deportation of Volga Germans into Central Asia
I mentioned that they were sent to Siberia, but I would imagine they would be there as well
Amazing movie would watch in theaters 😂
this feels like a good hoi4 alternative mod
I WAS ASLEEP AND I MISSED MOST OF IT. :(
in my opinion an alliance Between France and Italy would be called "SONS OF ROME"
the music is too fkin loud , can't hear the voice ...
Sorry about that, it should only be for the introduction. Hope you watch the rest!
Innacurate, germany didnt take a break for pretzels.
yo @LoreDad, this has a hard beginning and its really good, but halfway you just make the US becoming the main character and getting territory for absolutely no reason. I know I sound biased since I'm both Canadian and Quebecois in particular, i feel like this could have so much more. Don't make the US invade Canada for no reason, and the reason you gave (Japan joining the allies) was weak since Japan's genocidal imperialism did not watch well with Britain's and alternate Germanys policies.
at 47:44 it should be ended
How come the italin army is so much better in this timeline?
If it’s because they marched into Austria, it’s because it was faithfully demilitarized, lol
what if Anton Mussert became the minister president of the Netherlands and joined Germany and Italy in the war
what if the French Revolution and napolianic wars didn't happen
This is actually something that I had considered making a timeline on a while ago. Maybe in the future!
I am praying for a sequal as we speak
Comment for the algorithm
Would love to play this as a hoi4 mod.
35:29
Pardon?
@@LoreDad Wow! You replied. I was gonna take a bath and I watch videos taking a bath, so I made this timeframe so I could put it exactly on my tablet so I could continue.
Parando pra pensar agora, eu acho que os japoneses não iria entrar em guerra contra a união soviética já que eles temiam os soviéticos principalmente após a derrota japonesa na batalha de Khalkhin Gol. Além de que o exército japonês já ta estendido demais contra a china
as a quebecer, i want to go back to Canada
Hot Take: Anschluss and the Sudetenland were mostly justified and reasonable if the German regime at that time had been a reasonable one (which it obviously wasn't, I don't need to explain). Czechoslovakia was politically dominated by Czechs while Slovaks, Poles, Hungarians, Germans, and Ukrainians were heavily discriminated against. Invading the rest of Czechoslovakia however was mostly an act of aggression and imperialism which I obviously do not support.
"This thing was totally reasonable, but it wasn't because the people that did it weren't reasonable"
Literally "person you hate makes a great point"
What if the ottoman empire never joined ww1 and resurged after the discovery of oil? Or what if the ottomans won the balkhan wars?
For number 1 it would just mean that it takes longer for Ottomans to fall an possibly are a greater asset to germans in WW2, in Option 2 it honestly wouldn't change that much because either way In WW1 they still would just be an extension of the front to lower the focus on the european front
there can be slight changes that alter the ending for the ottomans like by not allowing the German sailors to attack the Russians form the black sea which would keep them out of the war@@KiraiKatsuji
@@soudino2723 Yeah i get that but it wouldn't have any serious change in the end just a slightly different war that wouldn't make the end that much different from our own
What an achievement!
this would make for a fire hoi4 mod
I know right?
Eu nunca vi mais eu sempre queria ver um vídeo de: se o golpe da cervejaria de Hitler tivesse dado certo? (Acho que isso aconteceu em 1923). Acredito que essa ideia é interessante e novidade já que ninguém nunca fez um vídeo disso
France italy ussr spain and usa couldnt defeat the weimar republic? Makes total sense 😂
I dont see how italy would all of a sudden have the industry to support the war and be useful if germany got austria and the Italians financially supported franco
Someone should make this into a Hoi4 mod
so a fucked up plathrough of fuhrerreich?
I don’t get it, Japan attacks Pearl Harbor, USA declare war on Japan only, people of USA only want to fight Japan, Eisenhower say British help Japan in Pearl Harbor but the US people still don’t want to fight British??? This makes no sense.
It would make a lot more sense for Germany and USA to make their own faction, with UK and Japan left in the “Saxon alliance”, instead of the USA to join the axis, and for the Germans British and Japanese to be in the same alliance.
Holy sh*t! The map of South America changed! That’s how we know things are getting serious!
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I noticed a historical/game parallel to a HOI4 game i did recently as Germany, I captured Moscow as German Kingdom, with the help of 79% of Europe (fuck italy) and were stuck trying to get to Stalingrad
Dude, there is no way the United States would ever have joined the Latin axis. They were powerful enough to fight and stand on their own. Even if they couldn't topple Germany and Britain, they could easily take canada, the caribbean, and the pacific, and then just hold forever. None of that requires any kind of collaboration with hostile foreign governments
this timeline makes no sense. Why would Japan still attack the US? Would the UK not have negotiated with the US to lift the embargo or at least maintained that the US was off limits?
This is a fair critique. I admit that Japan bombing Pearl Harbor was the least plausible aspect of project stresa. However I believe the British would have accepted this plan in order to quickly secure China
I like your uk negotiate with USA to lift japans embargo idea. That would have been a good solution
Eu acho que talvez a Turquia ainda ficaria neutra ou se juntaria ao eixo, já que a Turquia está basicamente cercada pelo eixo e pela situação da guerra no momento que a Turquia entrou nos aliados. Um dos motivos pra eu acreditar que a Turquia ficaria neutra ou entraria nesse eixo é a união soviética, já que até na nossa realidade um dos motivos da Turquia não ter entrado no eixo foi a união soviética
Literally the worst timeline:
(Also, this war would see 100s of millions die)
Proof positive that the Alternate History side of TH-cam is both starved for creators that haven't turned to either the far left or far right and political commentary and that our brain is easily manipulated through "Ohhh look, pretty map!!". This is somehow both 'Alt History like fantasy football' (having Montgomery and Rommel together, whatever the hell that the UESR is) and halfway good.
France bacame fascist because 1 party decided to reign supreme in SYRIA! What? How?